Watch THIS Before Installing an Anchor Swivel!
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2019
- It makes perfect sense that side-loading a conventional anchor swivel could blow it apart if there is no length of chain and shackle between it and the shaft. This Mantus Marine swivel amzn.to/2tEVcsn solves that and has some crazy breaking and yield strength numbers!! The strongest anchor swivel on the market?
Review of Mantus Anchor Swivel after 1-year of every day use: • 1 Year on the Sea Floo... Was there Galvanic Corrosion?
Great idea having tech and repairs seperate to sightseeing stuff....excellent!
Installed one of these Mantus Swivels on our Carver 504. We have all chain and a Rocna 25KG anchor. Works great.
I've never used a swivel with the anchor and in 60 years have never had a problem. The more complicated the set up, the more likely it will fail.
Me too. 200,000 miles of cruising and deliveries, and not one problem that would have been avoided with a swivel. What are they for? They are for enriching the makers and sellers of swivels.
Long term anchoring you need it or the chain will bunch
@@rollingrecords9019 👍
Nice upgrade!
Check that thing every few months. Galvanic corrosion. You are mixing stainless steel with high tensile steel chain. I had a stainless component (316) in my mooring for a while as a temporary measure. I was surprised how quickly the adjoining rated shackles were eroded. I get an uneasy feeling when I see that chain buried deep and out of sight within the swivel body. My system is gal steel all the way , no swivels, as a result of my mooring experience. Every link on your chain provides a toggling effect.
Great point on the galvanic corrosion. I do inspect our chain closely a couple times a year and yes zinc is definitely less noble on the galvanic scale so it is something I will have to watch out for. I will probably just cut off a few links and re-attach swivel once a year assuming the rest of the chain is in good shape.
I dont have a fancy mantus swivel, just a swivel and i use a shackel for side loads. Common sense not using it directly on anchor i think.
Well done and well shown! There are some Comments there, I find not nice. Everyone has their own experiences of how we do things and what we take to do it. I for one anchor always out and faced the same Trouble as he describes so nicely. If some one else anchored out without these modern swivels, great for you. But perhaps this Kid, did the same as me, bought an older boat and spending now time and money to upgrade things. Why then not to buy something decent and tested for his or our needs? LIVE AND LET LIVE. And show some joy and perhaps a little (shoulder-clapping) when young folks do something usefull too. Cheers to that.
We have this on Trig and it is fantastic.
I have gone around anchorages and found old anchors on the bottom with soooo many of that older style swivel busted. That is why the anchors were lost.
@ your kidding..... right ?
@@wadeholden I clicked too! Dear God what a shite piece of kit!
Looks like all you really needed was to add a new Shackle.
I have been sailing for 48 years and have never head of a GOOD swivel breaking….
I've got the same shackle as your old one, and it's manual (the whopping single leaflet) states that if you're expecting large side loads, you should stick a shackle between it and the anchor. So, don't need a fancy (read: expensive) Mantus swivel just to solve that problem. You just need a properly sized shackle.
excellent
I had a very bad experience of a stainless shackle and a ss swivel on a mooring. The stainless “ hollowed out “ with corrosion which I fortunately found before it failed.
Stainless can work underwater, but it better be duplex or better still superduplex stainless like 318LN or 2205. Any 316 is not good in seawater at elevated seawater temperatures - anything above maybe 23⁰C
Do not use any Grinder (like you do in 3:18) without any protection. At least a wheel guard!!!
Thanks for sharing, definitely a product to avoid
Teflon tape most likely becomes an aid in removal... Any corrosion, sand or grit that gets in there at least you have a Teflon barrier between parts that need to screw off.
@ epoxy!
why are you not using the port side anchor/bow sprit?
Please reinstall the guard on your angle grinder and use proper personal protective equipment (gloves, face and eye protection, etc.). Sharp chunks can come off of the disk at very high speed. Very dangerous.
Patrick P. Me too Billy, do you just use the Lee board? And we are only see the board to weather?
Yes, We use the dagger boards on a beam reach about halfway down or a little less and all the way down close-hauled and somewhere in between on a tight reach. Our boards are symmetrical so we use them both together. If it is very windy I will usually use the weather board down more than the leeward board or the weather board solo.
Sierra please, please, please STOP Billy whenever he reaches for that electric cutoff wheel. They are super dangerous and he never uses gloves a face mask or even goggles. I fear this tool more than any other power tool that I use. It is a monster and will tear flesh and bone instantly. The wheel guard cannot always be used but should be the default tool state removed only for a specific job and then reinstalled. I have had metal fragments removed from my eye and it is dangerous, complicated surgery and painful too. Please be safe and set a safe example for your audience. If you are hurt in remote locales and/or you don't have comprehensive medical insurance a serious medical emergency is perhaps the fastest way to end your dream life. Protect yourselves so we can continue to enjoy your adventure. Covid quarantine would be so dull without bingeing on your video streams.
I can see a bounce and goodbye leg artery with that angle grinder.........
Use lanolin (wool fat) on any/every threaded fixture that you may want to disassemble at any time in the future. Good for everything; even babies rashes.
Or use a bow shackle like the instructions advise to do.
To the best of my opinion to shorten the rosty rotten part of the chain in the same step wouldn't have been a fault..
Isn't it easier and more effective to put easily a short piece of chain between the anchor and the swivel? may be 2 or 4mm stronger in Diameter as long as it does not run into the anchot chain nut?
Was that Loctite or something else you applied to the bolt threads.
Yes loctite
How does your shackle bolt secured ? I see you have a bolt ..and not a regular eyed traditional bolt on shackle to anchor. Your boat is now hanging from this bolt basically.
If you watch again, there’s a hole in the nut and he ran seizing wire through the hole and around the shackle
@@frankd2301 thank , yes, could not see where that ss cable went..Billy must be sick of my silly questions..:)..just checking...
Thanks for sharing. Defiantly a product to avoid.
Please does your anchor come up straight or upside down with the Mantus swivel? Mine upside down unfortunately.
It comes up both ways for me. Sometimes I have to spin it by hand. I don’t think that’s the swivel though, it’s just the way the anchor is balanced. I suspect it would do the same thing with chain and shackle.
No disrespect, but ditch the "welfare tools". I've been a sailor for a few years and I get it, they go over the side, put away wet etc. Jobs go easier with decent tools though. No need to go SnapOn, look for quality stuff at yard sales or just pony up for Craftsman level stuff. You'll be glad you did in the end.
And get some box wrenches, or at the least, a crescent wrench. Tightening a bolt with a water pump pliers???...
If that cutting disc binds it will disintegrate or kick up into you. At least use a face shield
I have bent 80kg delta's arm a bit. Swivel survived. This one looks over complicated to my opinion.
Hey Billy, I have been watching the channel since the beginning, love what you guys do. I have a question about your catamaran and sailing it, I have noticed that you don't seem to ever put the dagger boards down? Is there a reason not to use them? Does it affect your SOG? Just curious. Back to the blue hole video!!
We use the dagger boards on a beam reach about halfway down or a little less and all the way down close-hauled and somewhere in between on a tight reach. Our boards are symmetrical so we use them both together. If it is very windy I will usually use the weather board down more than the leeward board or the weather board solo.
Really? You can buy a gavanised swivel for 1/3 of the cost of this boutique piece of equipment.
Besides you don't need a swivel in the first place.
Agree, Chicago Hardware galvanized swivel, titan HS shackles. just make sure it's an eye and eye swivel. American made.
Seizing wire should be monel, not stainless. Never use stainless underwater unless it's temporary or its duplex or superduplex alloy.
My humble personal opinion is that there are too many parts for a simple and VITAL task. Reliability is achieved through simplicity. One large steel shackle and a small piece or rope, for locking the screw, is all you need to attach the anchor to the chain. I mean rope no metallic wires. Metals suffer galvanic corrosion. Stainless steel more than others.
Rope to secure an anchor shackle pin? What kind of rope are you suggesting for that?
@@TulasTechTalk Just a thin piece that passes through the hole of the pin and then a tight knot. It prevent rotation of the screw as wires do, but inspection is easier. A worn rope is easy to spot. A wire can be close to rupture without any clear warning.
Can’t wait to se it fill up with sand,good luck, love y’all
Hate to say it, as that is a very pretty stainless swivel, but useless. The stainless will react with the chain, making it rust in weeks (which is why the end of your chain is so bad) look on ebay for galvanised lifting swivels and rated lifting shackles, all galvanised. Get as big as you can fit over your rollers. It will be a tenth of the price of that stainless paper weight and last 10 times as long!
My thoughts too, when I saw that stainless thing. The chain will suffer.
What Joe wong
said, was probably a much better solution: Looks like all you really needed was to add a new Shackle
Charles Phillips It definitely will NOT rust in weeks, I assure you...we have had ours for I want to say 8 years...no rust, no problems, great piece of gear to be sure. Rebecca
I wonder if the Pivot pin will break as looks too flimsy? Normally you have and open bar with big shackle hole one end and like a big round ball one piece moulded together at the other end like a tow ball but in a straight line then the two pieces cover the ball and go in to the screw on ring with a bolt to hold the parts so they clamp together hard then e pin with wire through the pin to make sure it holds the bolt and pin in place so any play does not force the connections to work loose . as like the first one they all wear eventually just have to check them each month. Everything must be the correct type of steel for sea water.. I know that British stainless steel is the worlds best but hard to get these days because of Stupid government breaking up the companies, sadly. They other is not German because they use Chinese steel instead of their own. So Swiss steel is the other option. I wonder why not use two shackles one at each end with 9 ton steel cable connected to the Anchor and chain? Just a thought.
Why use a swivel? most experts do not recommend stainless steel components on any load bearing components on a anchor rode. With 15 years cruising experience we have done just fine without a swivel,
Anchor swivels...... a poor solution for a none existent problem.....just one more week spot in your anchor gear
3:14 you hit like a gril xDDD bad hammer anyways, thats for nails.
Hex screws unlock with hard hits with somethings round smaller than hex, and hit inside screws.
Like hell thats safety on bolt its wrong, you anchors will hit wire's and broke it ;p
...over engineered springs to mind
Your never going to get that bolt off using red lock tight
Nah, it's not that hard. It's crazy glue, it's not welded.
To me, a swivel is just another weak link. I have cruised much of he world for decades, mostly living on the hook and have never used or needed a swivel. They only help a a minor amount anyway. To me, not a good trade off.
You are not meant to run a a swivel directly to the anchor, you need chain link between. This is why this method doesnt work...
Been working for 7 years
TOO many parts to fail.
I Agree. All that metal parts can get worn by friction or galvanic corrosion, without a clear warning. If that piece of metal fails, we are vety likely to lose the our boat.
No offence intended, but the way you use tools is infuriating...
Agree - if you're putting on a high quality swivel then at least tighten the shackle down with a spanner! Using a plumbers wrench is crazy - you should have a set of spanners and perhaps Mantus can sponsor you!
Angle grinder guards save lives 😉or at best from a lot of pain, disfigurement and $$
Does Mantus just sponsor all these channels to use the same script?
Facts are facts no matter how delivered. Mantus makes a superior product line.,
@@georgebetar923 They make a good product line but they also play the marketing game very well and hand out the swivels to all the well subscribed sailing channels
Duuuuuude.....you already had that......anddd you just degraded the whole thing, it looks like crap with all that safety wire hahahahah sorry man, I don't mean disrespect.
Swivels are rubbish....get rid of them
Just put swivel at top of chain, any real twists will unravel in time with nature!