SHIYU (Disputed) 8 - DISORDER comp with Grace / Rina / Piper
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- I FINALLY HAVE RINA! 🥳
Can't wait to try this with Jane! Though something tells me that Jane and Grace are both hungry for on-field time which may not be optimal.... 🤔
#zzz #zenlesszonezero #anomaly #disorder #shiyudefense - Hry
Awesome stuff as always. I can imagine how nuts Jane Doe on this team will be once she is released.
i imagine we have to use seth or something instead of Rina to activate her core passive.
@@Eclinagreed
@@Eclinnah she can be ran with another anomaly unit to activate her ability so Jane doe Grace and rina will be really good
@@JayUzo Seth sounds crazy for the anomaly teams tho, so idk
@@nickarooroo6397 ur right prob gonna be better to build him, just finna hurt my resources
I recently got blessed with Grace from standard and I want Jane Doe. Can't wait to try Jane/Grace/Seth.
my level 40 supports and stunners dying here multiple times i cant S this 😂
Man I really hope I get Jane, I’m set for this time so it’s surely destined to happen cuz I lost my 50/50 to grace on Zhu yuans banner
I need to grind the shit out of everything I can this patch, thank god they gave a shit load of commissions to do
@@currentlyvibing9916 good luck with the grind!
i like jane after playing her in the story but im too attached to piper, i think i will keep running this team until maybe the new biker gang characters
You should try to get burnice. Piper/lucy/burnice will be op af. Both piper and burnice doesn't need that much field time as they both only need one skill to proc their anomaly so you can choose whoever you want to have more on field time.
Isn't 4 piece thunder metal bad for a disorder team, since activating disorder removes shock and the effect does not apply anymore?
@@BaeruemFull yep you are right, I should be using 4 piece freedom + 2 pc thunder instead. I think i forgot to swap pieces around my other characters
@@fattyflip4168 Quick question, i saw some build guides that where useing 2pc Swing Jazz. Whats better from your pint of view. I´m still building on my grace for jane. Also, very nice video^^
@@Valk13125 swing jazz is ok too because energy regen is always welcome especially for Anomaly teams where most of the anomaly build up comes from using EX skill. Losing some anomaly Proficiency (from 2pc freedom) for energy regen (2pc jazz) is an acceptable trade off in my opinion
@@lumaletsplay8176 it is about the 4 piece set not 2 piece, that increases your ATK if enemy is in shock state, has no value for grace in a disorder team
@BaeruemFull whoops my mistake, thought ya'll were discussing the two pieces. Cheers
Im oulling for jane doe but i dont have grace. I hope seth will be a (somewhat) good shock anomaly
Is there any sign indicating to dodge when he uses the big move punching the floor and pull u over? Any tips on how to dodge?
@@walnutlover6510 yup, the yellow parry/dodge indicator still shows so just look out for that (might be hard to see with the flashy effects) and parry/dodge accordingly
you can also turn off damage numbers, they will get in the way of visual clarity by cluttering up the enemy's health bar. Also, I fought against this guy on the new Obsidian commissions so many times as part of the final IV fight, so here's what I can give advice on:
when he raises his Left Hand in the air, there is no flash on this attack, and he will shortly slam it down for (BIG DICK DAMAGE = BDD). Dodging when you see the tell should give you enough i-frames to avoid it, since there is no indicator, even if it's "late or early", the actual attack won't hit, but the game won't give the perfect dodge response
When you see the blue AoE indicator, that attack actually does have a yellow flash, but you have to be patient and wait a long time since it has a relatively longer wind-up.
the majority of his 3-hit combos flash yellow on each hit, but there is one where you won't be given one, and instead, I just had to learn the hard way of that particular attack's timing.
A very easy tell is when he raises his right arm's pillar, that is a 3-hit with all Yellow. Like the other humanoid elites, he also has a back attack.
There is one attack of his that is neither a 3-hit combo nor a yellow flash, and that's when he raises his shock hand to his chest and backhands your agent. This is really annoying to catch, so be careful!
@@thomasnguyen4427 this is really useful to know. With time we'll all get used to this boss patterns. Thanks!
@@thomasnguyen4427 Thanks for the tips, that is very detailed. Btw, i didn't know about turning off damage numbers.
good to know not only i got problems with obsidian comission(actually i spend around 2 hours in comission and only 15 min in shiyu lol)
I wanted to know how do you make piper spin fast directly? My spin slowly than accelerate. Thanks 🙏
@@Joboku she has to start with 2 or 3 basic attack first then immediately hold ex skill to spin fast
brother please dodge your grace for the love of god shes low
do you recommend jane grace rina for team composition i was thinking this for disorder team
@@alvinvillamin5012 I would consider Jane Grace and Seth. But Rina would work as well I think!
@fattyflip4168 please do a video with jane and grace i need some guide how to use them
@@alvinvillamin5012 ok 👌
Piper or Jane….hard decision Pretty sure both do a great job, different move set and Jane is a S rank dang it Hoyo
both
for the disk set, does it still work when enemy get disordered? nice 509k disorder btw
@@jokerssd whose disk set are you referring to?
@@fattyflip4168 the thunder, but nvm saw ur ans below, more curious abt the dmg increase but A rank w to sign W
Do you think disorder will be meta or just pure element anomaly team? I mean your piper procs assault damage kind of similar to disorder damage, with her ramp up time being much quicker than grace, and she is lvl 50.
@@MrMokey24 I think piper's damage is higher here because the enemies are weak to physical. But to answer your question, I think disorder won't be the meta just yet, at least until Burnice comes. Currently all the Anomaly units seem to be hungry for on-field time so disorder won't be super effective.
@@fattyflip4168 Thx for your answer, I might just pull for Seth and wait for Burnice then, because I want to give Grace the best team possible
Any replacement for rina tho also i heard from somebody that do calcs say that Jane Grace Seth might out dmg Jane Grace Rina since seth give anomaly mastery and have built in 4 pc freedom blue
@@18-HuỳnhGiaHuy Seth will be a good replacement for rina. I will be swapping rina out for Seth when he's out
@@fattyflip4168 despite being the only S rank or 5 star try and true Support unit since lauch, Rina seems underwhelming to say the least compare to Mona from Genshin or Bronya from HSR which dominated the games in its early versions.
Is Burnice will be good with Grace?
@@imamrka1 I guess it can work, maybe can go Burnice Grace and Seth/Rina/Lucy
With jane doe for piper, should i use rina or seth ?
@@caotripham993 I don't know for certain but I'm going to be using Seth. I believe he may be the better support for Anomaly teams
is it gonna work well without rina? i have piper and grace, i don't know if i want to pull for jane if she is come out
@@mnisfuld you can use Lucy as a replacement for rina but it will be less damage.
@@fattyflip4168 somehow i got rina from losing 50:50 on qingyi banner
i have grace, piper + her sig, and rina. they arent built, and i need a second half for shiyu. should i build them and if yes then what do i use?
@@nathanmom1045 I like them as a team but to play them it requires some finesse. You need to be applying the anomalies in a certain order to make the Disorder do high damage. If you know how this playstyle, then all you need to do is to dodge well because these elites really hard and they attack very frequently.
If you don't have any other dps, then sure you can build grace, piper and rina. But to be honest, you can pretty much run any cookie cutter dps comp and beat this because thankfully there is no timer involved. Just dodge well and you should clear with max rewards!
@@fattyflip4168 what's the best rotation for anomaly application with this team set up? I noticed that everytime piper is about to pop assault, you switch to grace to verride it to shock and reset the anomaly gauge. why?
@@dotwav4424 yeah basically I want to apply Shock first with Grace, then swap to Rina for her buffs, then swap to Piper to apply Assault and Disorder.
Disorder's damage depends on the amount of Shock timer left remaining before the second anomaly (in this case Assault) is applied. So that's why I build up some physical anomaly first with Piper and swap to Grace to fully apply Shock. So that by the time I swap to Piper, it just takes a couple of seconds to proc Assault + Disorder, and since the Shock still have a lot of timer remaining, the Disorder does a lot of damage.
Also, the physical anomaly does not get "override" by Grace. It is still there in the background as I am applying Shock. It's just a visual thing.
Hopefully that's not too confusing for you!
@@fattyflip4168 ok ty, it's just that my other dpses are corin and billy....
my first team is zhu yuan m1 anby m3 nicole m6
@@nathanmom1045 ah ok, swapping to Grace piper rina team will be a bit of a learning curve for you. But definitely much higher damage ceiling. If you can play the rotation well, you're good to go!
how much dmg increase does the signature does vs a r5 weeping?
@@jokerssd assuming you have 2 stacks of weeping gemini effect, her r1 sig does around 14% more damage
@@fattyflip4168 or does the rina engine give more dmg to entire team?
@@jokerssd yes but her buff uptime lasts quite short unless you happen her m1.
@@fattyflip4168 yea do have it, may i know how much the increase is vs slice of time? or isit better to save the 600 tix for other stuff
@@jokerssd I don't have the exact math for this comparison but I don't like the uptime of slice of time because it has a cooldown. But m1 rina is still good, just make sure your slot 5 disk is PEN% and you can just use slice of time for the extra PEN% as well. Save the 600 tix first just in case.
its kind of weird how they make rina 5 star support and currently have no place in meta.
Yea she is a... floating agent, literally 😄
everyone saying jane will shift the dps meta towards anomaly but isnt anomaly already meta with this comp🤣