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Joey, this is some of the best MtG content on CZcams. Your hard work is very appreciated.
Something I would like to point out, I think sicarian infiltrator is a must include in all lists. Squad triggers on ETB, so it’s not 5 mana draw 4, it’s 5 mana draw 6, 7 mana draw 10 (because you’ll make twice the tokens you normally would off of squad)
And that sweet sweet flash speed. 🔥
I was just about to say... Yeah, that's brilliant! That's gross, too.
...Oh
I thought that too, but then gaslit myself into thinking he knew some more specific ruling that I wasn't aware of that made me wrong lol
Really happy to be wrong cause that's a cool interaction
YEEEEES! Lovely to see that more non-new set commanders are gonna be featured again.
I’ve had a Yarok deck for a while now, and I can VOUCH for Kenrith’s Transformation. That card is fantastic on its own, and it’s like playing an Oko, without people being upset that you’re playing Oko. Plus, really fun to turn big baddies into elks lol
As someone who recently pulled the trigger on my Yarok deck, this will certainly be an interesting episode to watch
I've been slowly sleeving mine, but still need to pick up like half the cards.
Some of my personal favorite includes in my Yarok deck:
- Mosswort Bridge. Yes, it enters tapped, but if Yarok is out, you get to hideaway two cards with it. And the real kicker, when you activate the ability to cast the card, you get to cast both!
- Sakashima of a Thousand Faces and Spark Double, because why have two triggers when you can have three or four?
- Mirror of Life Trapping and Portcullis. They're kind of weird and VERY chaotic, but you essentially re-ETB every creature that you play, while also screwing things up everywhere.
- Woodland Bellower. Very versatile. Grab two creatures from your deck? My usual go-to is a Tireless Provisioner and Springbloom Druid. Nets you 8 treasures immediately.
Then all this with panharmonicon
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Sicarian infiltrator is even better than Joey made it out to be.
Squad says "when this creature etbs create that many tokens..." If I'm not mistaken, if you pay the 2 mana, you'll get the token copy twice with Yarok out resulting in 3 creatures and therefore drawing 6 cards. Pay 4 additional mana and get 10 cards and so on
Yup. Insane
When you get tired of all the new commanders and have product fatigue then joeys here to save you.
We love you joey.
Always love these. You budget decks never fail to impress and I love sharing them with friends who are learning
Ty, Joey!!! This program is exactly what i like!!
Keep it up!!!!
YOoooo! I was just looking at this card as a muldrotha alternative just this monday!
Great timing lmao
I have a yarok deck. My build is cheap and good because of the initiative cards. You go through the deck very quickly by completing the dungeon over and over.
Thanks for this post. came across a budget version and was looking into different versions of it.
Primaris Eliminator - Mini board wipe or pop the biggest threat a versatile card.
Ulvenwald Hydra - Tutor your Field of the Dead while providing a big body.
Field of Ruin - Non-basic land destruction is underrated, landfall trigger, mana fixing and provides massive card advantage with Sire of Stagnation use this and Demolition Field.
Glasspool Mimic - Clone effects are strong in Yarok to double up ETB triggers and it can be used as a land.
Shared Summons - Grab the right creatures at the right time, Yarok decks are mostly creature focused.
Skyclave Relic - Double the tokens it creates with Yarok on the field to have a big burst in mana advantage the next turn and to help pay for Yarok tax as it's a kill on site commander.
Few other card ideas for people.
Primaris Eliminator is insane in this deck, I wonder why he's not on edhrec
@@akiraciciriello7479 probably too new. Skyclave Relic is really good! Wow!
Thank you thank you thank you! I've wanted this for my rotting boy since I've been working on him for 3 years! Anhelo next!
I recently built the Yarok Enters the dungeon decklist and I have had so much fun with it
I understand the budget restrictions that the OP was constraining himself to. If you're not worried about that, then I recommend playing Scapeshift, and either Splendid Reclamation or World Shaper, or both. I think this deck doesn't need Harrow, because you probably only want 2-3 of each basic land and like all of the dual and triple lands that are in our colors. I also really like Mirage Mirror and Oubliette. The mirror can hold off opponents by threatening to copy some big nasty creature when they swing at you, and then you can copy your own Avenger of Zendikar or Field of the Dead for even more counters or zombies. I also like Vesuva. In my deck, as a fun win combo, I play Simic Growth Chamber, Sakura-Tribe Scout, and Retreat to Coralhelm, which can give you unlimited landfall triggers. I also play Piranha Marsh and Cloudstone Curio. Also, budget or no, I think Ob Nixilis should always be in the 99
Druid of purification, Sporocyst, shrieking drake;), malanthrope!
1000%. Sporocyst is absolutely insane doubled!
I love these vids to see other ways to increase the potency of certain decks. I know he is not a popular commander, but I would love to see a video over Cromat. I’ve loved the mutate theme and the fact he is pretty much the defacto mutate commander makes me happy, but I would love to see anyway to increase its strength.
I love this series so much I will watch a video on one of the commanders I hate the most, because Joey is amazing.
My favorite Yarok inclusion you didn't mention is Confounding Conundrum. All Yarok cares for is that the ETB effect comes from a permanent of yours, not that the permanent that entered is yours... Confounding Conundrum can easily slow down opponents far more than usual!
That's just mean
You definitely put me onto stone seeder hierophant, I have like 3 landfall decks and somehow never heard of it before this series
Use a bounce-land for double the benefit! One landfall, make 4 mana with Yarok or Panharmonicon out!
Love these vids man! Can you do a Yisan video? Super fun commander lol.
I put at least one potentially game ending synnergy into every deck I have... just so that I can have a reliable out. For Yarok I have Undead Alchemist and Altar of the Brood. Both are equally annoying to opponents on their own, but having both with Yarok may be enough to mill out all of your opponents.
Last Voyage of the _____________ is a much much cheaper (in terms of $) necromancy that can also give +4/+0.
Yeah. Stupid stickers though
Can confirm, stone seeder heirphant is ridiculously powerful
I've never seen that card before. Wow
Use a bounce-land for double the benefit! One landfall, make 4 mana with Yarok out!
@EDHRECast, great series. Especially for someone just getting back into Magic after 10 years. Any way to get a Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger vid at some point? Keep up the good work.
I really enjoyed my Yarok Mill deck
I hope we get more cards with the explore mechanic and explore payoffs when we go back to Ixalan. I want to build a Yarok explore deck.
Joey, I played against you at command fest Bellevue a few months back with my Yarok deck! I used necromancy to reanimate your terrastadon from your graveyard and blow up a bunch of your lands 😂
That shirt is SO BLUE
I'd like to see a Daretti, Scrap Savant deck next. He is a commander I really want to build on but I'm unsure of how to do it. Plus the brother's war brings a lot of good artifacts with it
A commander which hasn't just been printed. Hallelujah!
I have a Yarok deck myself, some good stuff in there and I am glad to see a lot of your suggested cards are things I already have in the deck, but I will definitely think more about the shriekmaw, muldrotha and arcane signet cuts though...
The budget version shows again: goodstuff is not needed :)
Sepulchral Primordial is my favorite card that I can't pronounce in yarok.
Suh-PUL-kruhl Prai-MOR-dee-uhl. Awesome card
Really surprised you didnt mention kodama or coralheim for infinite Landfall combos
Any hope of yall doing a Jon Irenicus, Shattered One UTA? It's my favorite commander rn
Can we get a Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder Upping the Average?
I like Josu Vess Kicker ability, with Yarok out, as Alternative win con. 16 2/2 Zombie knights with menace have won me games already.
New here I would love to see a episode on mimeoplasm
Does Aboleth Spawn trigger off the ETB of an opponent's creature and then check if it triggered an ETB ability, or does it only trigger when that creature's ETB ability triggers? Because I'm pretty sure it's the second, in which case Yarok won't double the trigger. Can anybody confirm one way or the other?
In case this hasn’t been answered, it triggers on opponents creature entering, but yarok still doubles it because the aboleth spawn is a permanent you control triggering when ANY permanent enters
isnt squad an etb trigger too? so Sicarian Infiltrator kicked once is 2 tokens and 6 cards and twice 4 tokens and 10 cards
Yup. Insane
Doesn't the Infiltrator Squad ETB trigger twice with Yarok out and make that many copies again? Or is the Squad effect only conected to the cast?
It does. Squad is also an ETB effect, so you will make double the copies and get more card draw
You should do some videos on the commanders average deck that you would not change. Please
its funny because I went so veeeery heavy on the landfall theme and elementals subtheme I ran out of space for other ETB cards! ANd here's your take just a week after I did that, and its still a different deck.
My Yarok deck has a number of Copy creatures (including Sakashima) to increase the number of ETBs.
I have a Yarok but never build him. I just threw Yarok in the 99. While I toyed at building yarok landfall, I feel it would play too similar to my Riku of two Reflections.
Would Yarok make Jin Gitaxias Progress Tyrant trigger twice despite Jin's card saying it only happens once per turn? Sorry, new to this and I'm not sure on the rules if 2 cards contradict.
In case you haven’t gotten this answered, Jin-gitaxias’ ability triggers when the spell is cast, not on ETB, so the two do not interact directly
The best card in my yarok deck is probably dance of many. Triggers twice with yarok, producing a total of two clones for 2 mana. That ends up being 4 etb triggers for 2 mana. Also, you can copy your opponent's stuff if you want to.
Huh. Nice
I think faerie artisans is a really cool card, but the effect doesnt work so well with yarok. It will make a token, then it will make a second one of yarok is on the field but the first one will go away. Its only useful when the token copy is of a creature with etb
Wouldn't the both go away because it's stated that "the all OTHER tokens created"?
I'm not entirely convinced that Abeloth Spawn is an ETB trigger. It reads like it's triggering off of the other creatures triggered ability and not off of the creature entering the battlefield. Is that enough of a difference for Yarok to not recognise it?
It definitely works:) Yarok causing the ability of Abalorh to trigger twice is mainly due to Yarok not caring who controlled the "entering" creature, rather "a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger": in this case Abaloth.
@@Blacklodge_Willy My issue isn't with the text on Yarok but the text on the Abeloth Spawn. I'm not sure the Abeloth Spawn is actually triggering on a creature entering the battlefield.
@@Blacklodge_Willy I've done a bit of digging but it seems I am correct. Aboleth Spawn's ability is not triggering off of a creature entering the battlefield. It is triggering off of that creatures ability. That extra layer means that Yarok does not interact with it.
@@TheViridianDusk I've been wondering about this since that card was spoiled. Did you get a confirmation that it only triggers off the trigger?
@@joedoe7572 several "ask a judge" pages have this question and the vast majority of responses from judges seem to agree with what I said.
Does Sire of Stagnation trigger twice when Yarok is on the Battlefield?
Yup. Yarok doesn't care who controls the thing that enters. Only that you control the thing that is triggered.
The problem with Faerie Artisans is that you would never be able to keep the tokens if Yarok was out because having two tokens enter would have them both be exiled under the cards rules.
Which would be fine if you just wanted ETB triggers, but this is only useful if the opponent you are playing against has a lot of non-token creatures with ETB effects.
I don't think this would be very good at all to include in a Yarok deck.
I’m not sure this is correct….? I could be wrong but Artisans says “then exile all OTHER tokens”. So, why would we have to exile the tokens we just created?
I hear you, it's just if the trigger is doubled that means you would have to exile both because the two triggers are independent of each other. So that means you would have to resolve each one separately, thus exiling both tokens.@@aaronisbell377
Quick note, Fblthp doesnt like to be targetted, he cannot flicker
Does the Squad ETB also get doubled? So you pay 5 mana and the squad etb gets doubled so you actually make 2 tokens of them plus the OG, each will trigger their ETBs again twice and draw 6 cards? I think you may have missed some value there?
Yup. Insane
Definitely not budget friendly but gilded Drake is so good in yarok. You don’t get to steal two creatures but you can give one opponents commander to another opponent which can be a major blow out. I did this once and they both scooped and found a different pod to play with lol. I took it out after that because people think it’s too mean
I personally like Confounding Conundrum in my deck
That's just mean at that point
I don't know how you pick which Commander to focus on each time, but Ayara, First of the Lochtwain would be great!
Videos are always so informative and thoughtful, love watching them and literally wait fir each one.
Do Mishra eminent one
Shouldn't Necromancy only be attached to the last creature? I'm saything this because of Bruna, Light Alabaster when she attacks/blocks you may attach any auras to her. It doesn't say move them to her, but that's what happens and those auras aren't still attached to the original creature.
(My take) Necromancy should lose trach of the first creature but will only make you sac the second if it would leave play.
Without Yarok, if you move Necromancy to a different creature in play, like with Crown of the Ages, the original necroed creature still remains in play and will still need to be sacrificed when the Necromancy leaves play. The fact that it's no longer enchanting the creature it had originally resurrected doesn't change that. If you have Yarok, the ability triggers twice , resurrects two creatures, one at a time, and will end up attached to the second one. But the first trigger that rezzed the first creature is still in effect and will still cause you to sac that creature when Necromancy leaves the battlefield. So when the Necro gets disenchanted, you have to sac both creatures. I think.
@@radiac6818 i see my problem. I looked at Last Voyage of the __. From Unfinity. Has a similar ETB. But a speret line when Voyage leaves play, sac the enchanted creature. So in that case it wouldn't care about the 1st creature.
Where Necromancy the return and sac effect are together. So in that case Necromancy would still force you to sac the 1st creature if it leaves.
How did you not talk about oubliette???
Waaay too few lands in the first decklist... I have a similar list without fetches and 40 lands +3 mdfcs feels low sometimes. Neither Exploration nor villainous wealth make sense with such a low count. Even the risen reef combo might fizzle easily like that...
I'm pretty sure it's because not everyone plays the same lands, and since it's an _average_ decklist, the individual lands get outplayed by other cards. If A plays one extra Forest, B plays a swamp, C plays an Island, and D plays a utility land, that land slot may not show up, because it's only in 25% of the decks as that land. Add in various forms of ramp, and that percentage gets much lower. Computers are fast, not smart
@@joedoe7572 Interesting theory. If that is the case it would be a huge mistake!
I tried finding some info on how EDHREC accumulates its data but
couldn't find much beyond the data sources.
However, I doubt EDHREC counts lands this way. If it did, land numbers
would be higher on average in mono-coloured decks because people play
more basics and there's more overlap of non-basics (just fewer good ones
available). And the reverse would be true for five colour decks. It's
not a statistical analysis, merely anecdotal evidence, but I just
checked most of the one/five colour decks in the top 200 and can't see
a pattern like that emerging.
Also, speaking of data sources, EDHREC pulls from several deckbuilding
websites - all of these track the total number of lands in decks. I'd
assume that it would be much easier to compile the averages from that
data than to count lands in a different manner.
Would be interesting though to get a glimpse behind the curtain how the
data aggregation actually works.
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But what about Roon?!?!
1:40 this is why you don't just take an average deck list and upgrade it. here is what you do: Pick a commander, pick a theme, then you grab the average deck. if you just pick a commander, the deck might go several different directions, pick the theme first, then pull the average list, that is what I do. I pick the theme, then pull the average list then make the changes I want to make to the average deck list that fits my budget and then I go.
Muldrotha is amazing with Yarok , it adds so much value.
muldrotha is good in any sultai deck
Was torn on making this one. Seems a little OP at a casual table.
In total shock there has been no mention of Woodland Bellower in the vid or comments. It is hands down an S+ piece in any list. As a base combo (with yarok in play) you use it to find springbloom + tireless provisioner/cobra to create 8 mana and 8 landfall triggers, then you are set to pop off with the rest of your hand. You can also opt to search for a glasspool mimic to net you +1 bellower trigger. Otherwise, bellower is super versatile and can find you just about anything you need for the game state, and the trickling of effects while yarok is in play often wins on the spot regardless of deck strategy.
A personal favorite, though awkward to cast is Bolas' Citadel. Using it with an "additional land per turn" effect in play really churns out tons of value and i find my personal list to already be low to the ground on curve and easily changes the top of the deck with so much land searching.
If you get tireless provisioner and spingbloom you spent 6 mana to get 8 mana in treasures and 1 great value creature for the next turn. Not bad
Sup
Animate dead do the same has necromancy.