Regrets studying engineering
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- čas přidán 16. 04. 2019
- Reflections on time spent studying engineering.
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My next video will be about veggietales.
Hmmm I'm in my 30's and had never heard of Veggietales.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
I read vegetables
So did you
@@jamesdean1074 I'm in my 60's (I think) & I watched this last night :-
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@@simounibarra2860 People are allowed to believe whatever they want to believe
Vegetables and physics mmmmmm?
I have no regrets because after finishing Physics in college, I joined a band as a drummer and lived my dream of playing on a lighted stage because I could always play and had great timing. Live your dreams, money is over rated. Dreams and great people are what will matter when your old and grey like me. Haha.
Just like brain may since he had a degree in astrophysics but went on be band member in queen.
Yeah!
The video turned out so well! Thanks for having me on, what a blast:D
It's depends on individual. Personally I like engineering and have no regrets, and today I am a professional electrical/electronic engineer doing design work. As a kid I watched Star Wars (episodes 4,5,6) and was so inspired that my ambition is to design and built fantastic machines when I grow up, and I decided to either be a scientist or engineer. I must admit at the bachelor level it was hard and very stressful. But looking back a large part of the stress is due to my own attitude and ignorance, I am too concerned about exam grades and too competitive. If I had recognized that years after I graduated people would not care about your university results (Maybe the 1st job people will look at your results, mostly employers care more about the ability to learn stuffs, 'real' knowledge and attitude), I would have adopt a more relax approach (joyful effort) and study to gain understanding and not towards exam. Generally if one understand the theory and concepts one would not fail and should be easy to get an average grade. At the bachelor level usually things are 'hazy', I must say most of the time I don't get what the professors are trying to convey and even after I graduate I still feel the stuffs I learnt at undergraduate level are like pieces of jigsaw puzzle that are scattered. It is only subsequently when I resume postgraduate study after working for a few years, that the pieces finally came together and form a coherent picture of the science of electronics. All the mathematics, quantum mechanics, solid-state electronics, circuit theory, Fourier/Laplace transforms, electromagnetics, analog/digital electronics, communication theory, control theory, computer architecture/programming etc finally come together and allow one a bird's eye view of how all these topics related to each other.
This. The total separation. They unlink everything. It's the opposite to school where the teacher is taking you step by step in a learning process to get to the end goal and the things you're learning on the way help you get to the goal so in the end you have the big picture.
At university they seem to break everything down into separate courses and then these are rethought inside of their own domain without it being linked between the courses.
You can even learn things out of sequence.
I think there needs to be a better tree structure of the entire degree with the linking branches being made clear between each of the courses and an explanation for them. To give the student and the course creator the explanation of why you're learning this and how they link together.
You learn all the separate modules but they don't seem to have the interrelationships between the modules joined up.
I can relate so much. Specially the part about being the best student in high school and going to a good University, in my second year I struggled with some classes and at the time I lost all of my confidence and self esteem, but in some weird way I noticed that I wasn't so mature as I thought, emotionally speaking, I never failed so I didn't know how to deal with failures. I learned to be more kind to myself, since I was also dealing with family problems and working at a part time job, so I shouldn't be aiming for impossible results and I shouldn't be too hard on myself.
Well that implies that the rest of your high school class was very stupid.
I guess I’m going through the same thing rn, expect I’m in my last year of high school. Never knew how to deal with failure, didn’t get the grades I want in the first half of this year, but I still have a chance to turn it around in the second one
Sky Raven Do your best and don't be too hard on yourself, I hope you get good grades.
Thankyou for this! I am actually highschool student but I already feel drained and tired
Im about to finish my masters in civil engineering. What i regret most is that most people seem to have the time of their lives in uni/college. Not me... absolute worst time of my life. It wasnt all bad, but so many stressfull moments, i would go to bed with my heart pounding like i just ran a marathon out of stress. I never passed all my exams in the regular year, each summer i had exams i had to retake, so never had an actual summer vacation. But oh well... finishing thesis now and about to sign with a prestigious construction company, getting good job and decent pay. But was it worth it? i dont know...
You should be immensely proud for how far you've gone and you'll definitely reap the rewards, I think it was all worth it
When it comes to me, I'm on third year on computer science and I start to regret I'm studying this at all :D
Fortunately with the money you’ll be making you’ll be able to afford the therapy you need
The effort all put in in engineering. Is not completely utilized and no where u have the reasonable salary
you go to uni to learn, not to party!!!!!! stop moaning and realize that life is not about having fun all the time.
God I am at a standstill with electrical engineering right now. Conquered Community college and headed into University for 2 semesters before I was bounced from a professor who celebrated low class averages below 20% in Differential Equations (DE). I have now overcome C/C++,DE,and Linear Algebra (LA) all with A+’s and am going back in May or August. This endeavor will help make the major slightly easier from this point. I have learned so much not only in the classroom but about life from these courses and am not looking back. It’s like a falling angel getting back to heaven. Your videos aren’t only informal but inspirational. I’m sure I wouldn’t get as far as I did if you didn’t keep reminding me why I loved math to the point where it is love and life.
Does your school require electromagnetic fields for EE students? This is class at my school that makes a lot EEs switch majors.
Nicholas Estrella Yes they do.
@@geert574 That's a very depressing way to live your life, giving up because you reach a 'certain age', it's almost as if you aren't in control of your life; society is.
Allow me to test your knowledge from my field, where would you use a singleton in your ADT?
@@nicholasestrella339 Oh god please no. I have EM fields in the last year. Thought Physics will be the worst subject.
In India majority of people study engineering and go for bank jobs.. :D
Or civil services lol
As an Indian, i confirm.
Coz they actually don't know what they want to do
Not me son. Not me.
Won't be studying engineering (I guess) but still would be coding.
@@onlypants2191 most intelligent guys here clear most difficult exam, just following the trend just to study computer science BS and at the end of the day IT/coding jobs lol. And then whine about how it's goverments fault that we don't have good researchers/scientists in the country.
I always laugh a bit when people tell me it gets harder after you graduate. I worked full time at a hospital, often picking up hours when a coworker would no show. This was immediately after graduating highschool, and yes that was stressful. But university is far more stressful, especially when you work part-time.
At least with work you can leave it there or at worst you called in and get paid more. At university, I have to hope I get good grades in difficult subjects to procure scholarships. If I get a low grade and have to retake a course, I just lost over $1,000 and 4 months of time. All this to *hope* I get a decent job.
Before my MD, I had done a BS in Chemistry and went to work as a chemist at a Harvard U medical research lab in Boston. I had already decided not to continue in chemistry but had to use the degree to get a job. Fortunately, it gave me a chance to learn about medicine and apply for med school. Wasn't sure what area of medicine either. I think we all need to learn and try things to find what fits us well. The real world doesn't always let us do it this way. Best to listen what is inside us so that we can be happy with out lives. :)
This was so lovely! Thank you for the thoughts
I graduated as a mechanical engineer 40 years ago. The four years on campus were the most stressful years of my life. We had two suicides the first year. The pain was worth the gain. A 40 year career working as an engineer and doing lots of fun technical stuff has been very rewarding. I have traveled the world and worked on billion dollar projects. I would do it again but relax more and try not to stress during the campus years. The only other regret is I went to a tough engineering only University that was 90% male at that time. I missed the social aspects of campus life. That plus I had no money at time made life difficult. Now I am rich $$$ and life is good.
That is great, where did you work as a mechanical engineer ?
BTW , it is great that you have enjoyed your later career.
Good for you.
Can you help me find a job? I'm based in India, but willing to relocate?
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You are very calm person, i would like to have you as a teacher, you are just phenomenal!
You are so right. It seems impossible to try to get a STEM degree outside of being a full time student. I really hope I can get through this.
Thanks for sharing, very brave, very honest - valuable insights!
Majority people in India do engineering first and then decide what they have to do in life.
Quahntasy - Animating Universe lol
True
In the arabic gulf region too, the exact same situation.
Same in Turkey. The funny thing is relative lack of engineering jobs in these countries.
Quahntasy - Animating Universe why?
Regrets studying engineering:
- Studying engineering !
LMAO :D
Me too studying engineering. No regrets though!
Literally every engineering student at some point of their lives
Love this video, so important for people in college to see! I find myself leaving lectures early simply because some professors just ramble on about sort of irrelevant things to take up time? Id rather go home and study specific topics i know i need to work on. I also have misophonia so its hard sitting in classrooms for extended periods of time.
This was very helpful, thank you!
Great vids! Graduating university is just a good start. It's just a jumping off point to lifelong learning. For me, I had took a handful of computer science courses (C/C++, Java, PHP, etc), but it took about five years+ to really sink in and make sense. The college also had tutors, I met with the tutor weekly for an hour for years. I learned more from the tutor than the course instructor, because it was a one on meeting. Also, i bought and used a lot of external books and vids (that was before the age of CZcams). I also recorded all the courses I attended so I could review them over and over.
you never know where or when you will need your prior learning. You might combine it into a new thing. Even if it seemed to not matter at the time
I was about to get Forensic Science but my friends brought me to Engineering. I love them so much and I don't regret my decision.
Great video, very informative for me as a high school student. Thanks!
I am learning so much from these videos about being in university. I am so socially incompetent that it is really dragging me down. Thankfully there is one professor that is really helpful and encouraging.
Thank you, Toby
Your channel is very useful
Good work and good luck
Any path in life can crush you in regret. Just choose something that will give you a well balanced learning and a real job that will let you see the world and keep a secure a home life.
7:43, seems like a task for machine learning , so it can help students decide what courses they should better take for the future they want by predicting from data in the form of what current courses you take & how much you like them plus what other topics you watch on youtube most often
It only looks at historical data and infer the possible value of a variable assuming that variable is from the same distribution. This is exactly the path the human race should avoid going into, because that basically prohibits real innovation and creativity.
muzing topics!! helped me a lot to fix things before regrets...actually thats what i call spread knowledge! showing people which path choose just before they've taken wrongly
I regret not studying what I actually love. I'm studying something that was chosen for me and it drains my lifeforce and willpower.
I can relate a bit, with one difference - I chose my current course but I found out it's not actually for me. But I have no money to leave to another uni and I have no courses for me in my city.
In this case, nobody but you should choose your course. Unless other people wants to live your life and you let them do it.
@@Kate-qu2rw I have an upside, it's free to enroll in a university in my Country but I am so close to getting my diploma, it's nonsensical to drop out now.
are you indian?
ps what are you studying?
R.I.P.
Most people are here for studying and exams advice... I’m here for the accent
Sirius Black Kiwi
@@vortexfc-2ndchannel990 Its Australian!!
I am here for tibees and her background Calmness
“today i’m joined by jizz”
Same
Madam. Thank you very much for giving us this knowledge .
It helps us a lot 💝
In my engineering class about a quarter went on to med school; a quarter did MBA's and went into consulting and later ran companies and about half became standard engineers. the 50% that got into good MBA programs and med school had really good marks - so it is important.
Tibees I'm still waiting on the video in which you teach us how to talk that calm like you ^^
It's simple: to speak calmly like that, you yourself got to be calm and composed and comfortable in that particular environment that you find yourself in.
@@ahmedalshalchi what's up with kiwi?
me too
Thinking if she had many suitors!? Hmmm 😶
EE here and this hits home. I stressed and sacrificed socially so much to graduate with a 4.0 GPA and it really doesn't matter.
It doesnt matter unless you go to grad school
Only for industry. If it's for grad school, it's extremely important.
Why did u go to such lengths for a 4.0 in the first place
If you mind me asking, what GPA would have been more optimal in your opinion? I'm guessing like a 3.6?
Pushing yourself is definitely a good thing. Knowing your limits is a skill. You are a great listener :)
I hope my daughter grows up to be like you two - smart and interested in the sciences
that awesome braided ponytail must be outside of euclidian geometry
-__-
loveee this collaboration!
6:59 You can still learn those other things from MIT free courses.
Learning is on-going: I learned a mountain of stuff on the job, *and* spent my own time and money to learn other topics relevant to my work.
Baloney, stress motivates and makes a difference in the
outcome. Exams turn into deadlines at work. Stress is part of job as well as it is in University studying for challenging exams. You blow it off now and that's fine, but you wouldn't
be as driven to succeed without the stress. You're so young and inexperienced in the work-a-day
world. Working as a professor(if you got a job doing that, living the student for life trek, relatively non-stressful life of an academic) vs. real work building and designing,etc. and deadlines. Big difference ladies, where money and contracts are on the line as well as next month's payroll. Enjoyable watching you both. I am very
pleased to see more and more women in University engineering and becoming successful and entrepreneurial. Big changes in last 10 years in parity.
I absolutely agree with the first point. In my IT degree, I had a HD average and ended up getting the university medal - so you can only imagine the level of stress I put myself through. Was it worth it? No, because I later discovered I didn't want to work in IT anyway :-)
I'm now doing a second degree in an unrelated field, and putting in FAR less effort. The difference? I'm much happier, and get to spend more quality time with family & friends (as Jess noted).
Who knew that that person who uploaded WEED EATER would have such a wonderful and educational channel. Glad you had that comment pinned to check out your other videos
Yet another great video.
Studying engineering, mathematics, physics, etc., is seldom a joyful experience. However, just like exercise, the benefits become known/appreciated later and have a very positive net effect on life. There's the "tangible benefits" such as greater earnings but there's also some significant "soft, secondary benefits" that are important. One example is the development of rational thinking. The net result is (IMHO) is a much better life and impact on society.
I don't see myself socializing at all or going to parties :(
I just would study and prepare mostly and watch my favorite TV shows by myself as recreation...
@@FullAfterburner same :(
I can relate to stressing over engineering, it takes the fun out of life but at the same time its hard not to stress over the work at the time because its hard to do. Its like if you didn't care then in a way its worst.
Most instructors are great, some are last minutes hires. I was hired to teach a C++ course on Saturday, and the course started the following week. A Microsoft MFC course I taught, the college changed to book on me five minutes before the course started. As I was walking into the classroom, I was told the book was changed. The students had bought the previous book, and some already started highlighting text. I have known instructors who teach up to seven high level course per semester, that's just impossible to effectively teach.
A person should not have a regret about knowledge gained. We deal with the challenges of our lives with the tools of maturity, understanding and abilities at the time. Only regret not doing your best and taking time to smell the roses along the way🌹🌹
Congratulations to you both
These two brilliant young ladies give me hope for our future
Good watching this again. Both very bright after years of study and make for very attractive viewing !
When taking my daughter to school in the morning she would often ask scientific questions. After a short pause to digest my answer she would ask more until either satisfied or we arrived.
One day after several questions that got more heavily into the physics she stop and declared "There you go again. Trying to turn me into a fussicists. "
Yeah I failed. She went into electronics and electrical engineering.
An academic counselor gave me interesting advice, and for context I'm a math and physics double major. It's important to constantly ask yourself, "Do I need to remember this long term, or do I need a conceptual understanding that will allow me to relearn ideas as necessary when I need them later?"
It's helped me to focus on the concepts rather than volume of problems. Don't get me wrong: I do a lot of problems. But I first make sure to read and understand the logic of the textbook, then be a bit picky with the problems I solve. Sometimes, I'll solve problems in my head then look at the worked out solutions on Chegg, while for juicer problems I'll definitely solve things on paper. Other times, I'll write an abbreviated solution on paper. But I do make sure that I also set time aside on how to cleanly organize a full solution---and critically how to use alternative and quick methods to check that my solution is good. All this helps me to test well, get a conceptual understanding, problem solving practice, but in a fraction of the time because I'm not doing every single problem rigorously worked out---just a subset.
Although for some smaller texts, sometimes it is important to do all the problems, time permitting. Even then, randomly pick problems to do so that if you don't have enough time, you have an exposure to a variety of exercises even if you couldn't do all of them.
Thank you!
Hi Tibees think your channel is awesome for people hitting it hard in science
I regret studying Engineering. Thinking of switching to Welding trade now after two years in an engineering job. (Office Environment is killing me! Seeing the same negative people every day)
Great to watch this again, fantastic dress Toby you look brilliant ! Jess and I have a lot in common ,both having studied Mechanical Engineering. Jess mentioned doing a lot of 'Stressing' at school. Was stressing ' Stress Analysis, Mohr's theorem FEA, PD Equations etc or did you mean emotionally stressed, all that tough learning taking the strain. Despite your regrets, surely after the way you have turned out, attractive intelligent women it was worth it !
Your video is Awesome!!
2nd year engineering student here and it's good to see many people agree in "4 years of full stress, work and sacrifice" bc my family (most are engineers) just say "engineering is the easiest field" and then I'm kinda like 0_o
Since the 1st year the stress and struggle is real, but never give up.
If you haven't quit yet, keep going.
What a wholesome video. Were you good at handling stress and how did you handle it?
ShiroKayA comment?
American EE here, i just regret not joining clubs and what not, but I'm happy with my job in industry now
Your voice is so inviting and makes everything you say even more interesting! i'm really enjoying binging your channel
This is a very good video. Very useful for young people.
This video is very useful to students. So , we have to share this video more and more .
Stress kills. Be a noble gas;
don't react.
easier said than done, most people are like methane or propane because they eat unhealthy ;D
Be like fluorine
Be like water. Tasteless (modest), odorless (respectful), colorless (transparent), but valuable.
That last point that you guys spoke about holds true for me. I am also more of a visual learner. Listening in lectures does not really do wonders for my understanding of the content. All it does is it gives me a guideline of what I should study during the week. I would almost always leave lectures and say to myself, "What did I actually learn from that lecture?"
And my answer would be, "Nothing."
Only once I read through the work and practiced problems on my own, then I would grasp the concepts of what we were doing.
I always thought that I wasn't approaching the lectures correctly because some of my classmates would just seemingly understand what the lecturer is telling them and I would just be sitting there with a blank stare on my face without a clue of what is going on. Auditory learning is one of my worst qualities.
No matter how you slice it.. As in with most highly skilled occupations...there is a small slice of the population, even of those that seek the positions, that oossess that certain skillset that comes together to help them excel in their endeavors... js
FOMO. You make the best decision at the time with the information you have.
I did a masters degree in Chemical Engineering. A choice I made aged 16 years old, when I knew almost nothing about myself! But that was the protocol at my school back then: pick a degree course based on your A-level choices and then go to uni. After graduation, I chose a different career and did another degree whilst working. I'm very happy with my second choice, but wish I had got a job at 18 or taken a couple years 'out' before deciding to go to university full time. Nice to see so many people get it right, but I certainly didn't...
*I'm a PO in State Bank of India (2018 batch) and every 6 person out of 10 in my batch is from engineering background.* 😂
Suhas
calming down for tibee in stress situations: using a voice recorder and listening to her own voice for several minutes :D
If you have sufficient enterprise, you can always do something innovative with all that you have under good command, as for those which you dont, study them all over again till you gain mastery, remember what ever you learn will only enrich your intellectual prowess. After all you have been through a professional course, there must be something that's gotten rubbed off on you. After getting a grip, you can always co-relate between all that you have learnt AND MAKE SOMETHING MEANINGFUL OUT OF LIFE. You will.......enjoy it.👍
Having to take courses you're not interested in is one of my pet peeves about the higher education system.
In the final part, without purpose, you just described the university student´s life and that everlasting question: Is it necessary to go to the lectures? or Can I do it better by myself?. Good Video!
I regret that my uni did not even have programming as an optional course! It's super important!
I never studied engineering at uni but I do remember meeting quite a few engineering students who seemed to be struggling to finish their courses in the four years you are meant to. With many dropping out altogether. My cousin took 6 years to finish his aerospace engineering course.
I could not help but think that a lot of these students would have been better off going to a trade school and earning an engineering certificate from there. At least they would be able to finish the course and get a job at the end as a draftsman, technician or a machinist etc. Getting a degree sounds good but you have to know your limitations.
I will see this video after 4 years when i complete my engineering
I actually watching this video laughing out loud on the floor, and looking at Tibees did interview with the engineering student..imagining Tibees like "yeeaah finally I am not the only one stressed out at uni"
_I am a mechanical engineer and I regret remaining a virgin more than doing it!_
I enjoyed studying Engineering (got multiple degrees while working full time). I did not have any relationship with any professors until graduate school...that's where one can learn the cool stuff (professors are more open about how they approach and solve problems with grad students and doctoral candidates). I also enjoyed studying advanced engineering mathematics, cultural geography, and Japanese language. The extra mathematics courses proved to be extremely useful in upper level undergraduate and then graduate courses. I can identify with one other commenter: my true passions since I was 12 years old are Art and Physics (particle and quantum physics) . I picked engineering because I thought at the time engineering was using physics to solve problems in a creative way. And, contribute to the betterment of human life by as a team to create products.
Grades matter if they represent an honest personal effort. I mostly tried my best, but when I didn't I stressed. If my grade wasn't perfect but my best effort I felt good.
I LOVE CROSSOVER EPISODES
Wow. This is one of those CZcams channel that actually serve purpose. On other hand we have people who are fighting for number one spot. Way to go #tibees😁😁👍
There wasn’t any machine learning course when I went to university. So that is why I now decided to go for a second master in statistics.
Hope you will make some more videos Toby, helps to keep my viewing standards up ! You have considerable female prowess and charm !
I enjoy this 3 person intellectual discussion.
ive asked professors for help and at small colleges they really are inviting but at larger schools they really make it awkward if u try to get to lengthy in questions of their material
@Tibees Toby, please make a video on quantum field theory for the layman.
I also used to regret studying "physics engineering" degree in my university. In my university, this program takes more than 6 years (170 units) and all the classes are very hard in that I pretty much was studying 7 days a week everyday just not to fail the course, including summer semester and failed to socialize as I struggled in academics. By the time I realized in the final year now, all the concepts of electronics and physics will be not useful to my career (and hence it will be hard to get a job) except a bit of CS/stats related courses since my interest now lies in CS/statistics/ML oriented. But now I don't really regret since thinking about the past is painful and I just think that I will be proud of getting a physics-related degree, which is still indirectly related to statistics or ML field and I guess I will keep learning.
Thank you for saying that higher grades aren't really necessary. Currently doing my Masters in Engineering in aus. I completed my undergrad with a shit 62 WAM. So hopefully that doesn't come back to bite me in the future. Or I just focus on getting a better WAM for my Masters...
Very cool. I almost didn't notice the lion behind you :)
I regret NOT studying engineering.
Jonney Shih why’s that?
What did you major in?
@@LucasDimoveo medical, regret it so bad
@@thomasanderson1416 medical is a respectable field as well
@@themac9677 It isn't about having a respectable degree. It is about doing what will satisfy you.
Family time is the best time you could spend because you have one mother and one father. So spend quality time with them. Make every moment memorable! Everything else comes after that. Don't stress over petty things.
I was in EE but switched out due to stress and general shenanigans. I find these vids quite relatable and inspiring.
What did you switch to
@@azizalaliq8 A major called Technology, Arts and Media. It's engineering but nontraditional. It incorporates creativity with engineering and focuses on using the technology. It was basically full of people like me who were in engineering but wanted something better.
I'm a mechanical engineer in Brazil and I regret not studying more. I was not a model student at all, and that closed some oportunities for me in labs and other stuff.
I'm currently on my second year of engineering studies at my community college and plan to change it to mechanical engineering after I transfer. I came back to college for this major. I hope I don't regret it ever. My biggest goal is to study overseas preferably Germany and I hope I can be of use by that time.
One thing I'd like to point out is, she mentioned she regrets the things she did wrong during her engineering course. She didn't say that she wished she had taken another [much less vigorous] course! For all those people just like me, who are losing their faith, thinking engineering is not for them or they might not be able to keep up with it... Just believe in yourself and try remembering why you took up that course in the first place! Turns out that *Motivation and Perseverance* are some of the most substantial ingredients to get through college... All I'm trying to say is, don't quit because the course is too hard for someone else.. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF
I wish I had initially studied electrical engineering instead of mechanical. Most of the the technological advances in my opinion are being done in the electrical area, and at least where I went, the electrical engineering majors take a large portion of the mechanical curriculum. Aside from that, a good program in mathematics that includes a course in system science (ie, heavy treatment of laplace and fourier transforms) and a course in partial differential equations and a rigorous course in probability theory (like random processes) is all you need. You can fairly easily learn the applications, like control theory or dsp, after doing that.
I studied Engineering and with male only courses meeting Jess and Toby was unusual. Many would have regrets.