Kristin Tattar Back on Top, Ricky Wysocki DOMINATES, and the Best Course in the World?!
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Hi. Thanks for the wonderful words about my home course Krokhol. I can honestly say that there is no rich owner financing Krokhol. There are a handful of people, who just love it that much. 130 volunteers during Krokhol Open.
That is unbelievable! One of the most beautiful courses I’ve ever seen.
Please share the background story, how did it come to be?
@prattacaster The background story is simple. A håndfull Enthusiastic people was tired of par 3 courses with lots of waiting time. They wanted a course in Oslo that would be challenging for everyone and help develop the best players in the region. They looked around and talked to government and came across this property by coincidence. A close partnership with the golfcourse and some serious planning made way for this course. When you play it, you can obiously see the tracks from the old abandoned golfcourse, but it's totally redesigned to be a 100% discgolf course. Features like bunkers etc have been removed and filled with either threes or gras.
After watching Paul Macbeth and his Euro tour in 2023 my husband and I specifically went to Norway and Krokhol because we wanted it to experience it ourselves. It was rated number two on UDISC at that point in time. I love wood courses and this course is the perfect combination of woods and fairways. The course is truly, truly incredibly beautiful, but also incredibly difficult for a normal human being. It is by far my favorite course that we've played to this point. We also played at the course at Skelleftea in Northern Sweden where Latitude 64 is located. Was ranked #3 at that time. When we got home we took a road trip and drove down to Maple Hill and played that course for the weekend because we thought it was cool to be able to say we played the number one two and three courses in the world at that time. Krokhol by far is my absolute favorite course.
I am still blown away from watching the tournament played on that course. There truly isn't anything else like it.
IMO this was the best product the DGN has ever put out. It looked like an actual disc golf course instead of a course slapped onto the back of a christmas tree farm or in a public park.
Krokhol is a non-profit course. Course maintenance is made by volunteers, tee-time bookings etc is used straight back into the course.
This was the most beautiful course I’ve ever seen, and you’re right Maple hill isn’t even close to it
Krokhol was the most stunning course and property ive ever seen played, and the layout of the holes made it so much fun to watch. Im still shocked at the level in which Ricky played at all weekend, to go bogey free out there is insane. The property is not a public park, it was an old ball golf course and the owners of if now, had purchased 9 holes of that course and turned into what you see now. I said the same thing though, that course is what the future of disc golf looks like. We need at least 10 mpre courses on that level. U said there were only 2 pro tour winners in the FPO field, maybe im wrong but there were twice as many at least. You had Ella Hanso, Paige Peirce, Silva Saarinen and Annika Steen and of course Kristan Tattar. Plus very other talented European women.
This was the first european tournament i could stomach. It didnt feel like a funeral proceeding, didnt feel like they were treating disc golf like the fate of the world was on the line. It was a great balance between being straightforward about what was happening and also talking like a normal human. Then on top of that the course. Really enjoyed the whole thing.
Just watching tournament coverage of Krokhol, you can tell it's the #1 course in the world. The course was just visually so beautiful, the trees were amazing, and you could clearly see where the fairways were. If you were off the fairway, you were punished by tree jails and natural OB. And then on top of that, you still had artificial OB, water, and more. Felt as close to a golf course as disc golf can get.
I knew Konner was back as soon as I opened the video and saw the lighting
I live in Oslo and attended Krokhol open, it was amazing seeing the US talent play this course. This course should be on your bucket list, and talking to a lot of the players they seemed to love the course aswell. Hopefully you gus come over!
Silas Schultz definitely deserves a Grippy/Grammy nomination (and in my opinion win) for the diss track
Great point
I actually believe Silas lost the beef. Drew immediately beat Silas by 13 strokes at des Moines. That was the real storyline no one was talking about. Silas missed cash after talking trash.
Also discmania supports body shaming...
@@alexrosas9827that’s not how it works.
@@leastselfawarepotassium you a lil Dickey fan?
Let's go Kristin and Ricky. 2 of my favs.
Krokhol is both a discgolf course and golf course. No parks etc. Its 20 min outside Oslo pretty much in the middle of nowhere.
27:00 minutes in to finally get to MPO
real mvp
Seeing this course almost makes me want the PDGA to go full Euro...
That DGN survey was awesome. I also put 60fps in last place. At the end they even give you a chance to type out some thoughts. This is a good sign they are willing to change things if the majority dont like/care about them
My dad had been writing lyrics since 07. As soon as he found that AI could make them into songs, he started producing them. He has roughly 60 songs on his YT channel using AI with the lyrics he wrote. Its pretty amazing what AI can do already and a little scary what it will be capable of.
Trevor’s sly chuckle after Konner says, “Giving off Big Rick energy”, had me rolling!!!!!🤣🤣🤣
Krokhol looks amazing, I’d love to play there sometime. A property that has the potential to be something special is Kayak Point in Washington. The gold course that GK just filmed skins on doesn’t have the par/shot difficulty figured out yet, but they’re still pretty fresh out there, and it’s just an amazing property to play disc golf on with the huge evergreens and manicured fairways. Maybe in 5 years if they’re willing to listen to pros and make necessary changes it could take the next step forward.
With the European courses. They do look much better. I think some or many of them were failed golf courses possibly and then the climate lets them stay in better shape possibly? Like the Preserve should look great but is just ok. I think topography and geography help them a lot. However we have to give credit to the volunteers/staff and possibly government allowences and policies play parts as well. Either way, again yes, these Northern European courses have all looked amazing.
Reminder: Don’t forget to add a “Grandpa Kennedy Approved” Grippy category! 😂
Great episode, guys! Welcome back, and congrats Konner! 🎉
After getting to play both last year and then watching Krokhol, I think Kayak Point is closer to that aesthetic and upkeep than Maple Hill. (Though I only played each place once)
Konnor's go to name in a whimsical scenario is Zach and i appreciate that Kon
A ton of respect for Calvin for playing those tournaments and not letting fans down.
@@thomasbrovont4114 🫣
Krokhol is on the same property as a golf course. This is what I think disc golf courses could be in the US. Put them both on the same property and don't have overlap of land, but share clubhouse, cafes, golf carts, drink carts, etc
U think disc golfers and ball golfers will interact well together?
@@samsportsman929 Two golf courses in my city where disc golfers share the course with ball golf. One course interactions are cordial and curious, the other they actively try to hit you with the ball. So I think it could work fine if the two courses have their own separate land on the same property, then you don’t have to interact.
@@samsportsman929 There is at least one course in Finland where tee area is shared with disc golfers and golfers and you book a teetime. I have never heard about problems on the course. Golfers usually let disc golfers pass them, because golf is so much slower. Lot of talking between and sometimes golfers ask about discs etc. Little more expensive course and quite remote from bigger cities so disc golfers are usually fairly good and know how to behave.
I think a big part of krokhol being so good is the amount of rain they get.
You cant have a course like that in the US without a ton of watering which doesnt make sense financially (or environmentally).
The golf course near our house is watering daily, thats why its 40 to 60 per round at these places.
One of disc golfs major benefits is how inexpensive it is.
Shall we take a moment and talk about Paige's performance, let's say over the past two years, when Kristin is present?
Paige can say whatever she likes about not caring about Kristin taking the GOAT title from her but this tournament was another example of her melting away when the actual goat and Queen of FPO was in the competition.
Paige won once and finished fifth once while Kristin was out. Tattar came back and Paige lost by 27 (yes, TWENTY SEVEN) strokes. For the record, she lost to Kristin by 27 strokes also last time they played in the same tournament at Champions Cup.
Not comparing Krokhol to Fox Run Meadows is CRIMINAL ! Paul said the euro tour is like playing in Vermont every week because Fox Run HAS the manicured grass and staked OB lines and perfect boxes…but with MUCH COOLER scenery
Power Rankings going in to the European Open.
1. Gannon Buhr
2. Anthony Barela
3. Calvin Heimburg
4. Ricky Wysocki
5. Niklas Antilla
6. Matt Orum
7. Kyle Klein
8. Chris Dickerson
9. Gavin Rathburn
10. Ezra Robinson
11. Simon Lizotte
12. Andrew Presnell
Ummm my name is Seth and I'm 29 years old... Can we rebuild the 4th wall? I'm spooked 😂
HOW IN THE WORLD does HOLYN HANDLEY drop out of the Top 5. She has finished Top 5 in every event since Champions Cup (that's 6 events in a row btw). Oh ya... and she recently just won BSF LAST MONTH.
I feel Silva is getting too much credit for Silver Event wins against weak fields. She did come 4th though at Champions Cup which is HUGE. So she is really hard to judge imo.
The first 2 lines that Hunter read were basically a Dynamic ad.
The Truth, and fuzion?? Yo…
We really played worlds at the fort when theirs courses like the one they just played out there.
Are we getting a preview for EO? Keep in mind that they are playing The Beast in Nokia and The Monster in Tampere. Monster course is arguably more challenging, wooded than the Beast layout.
And both courses are fun to play. Tampere should cause more score separation. Center looks better than ever. it is a pity that Center's pro layout is not permanent. Baskets are there and tees so I guess basically you can play it, but I don't think it is officially available. I think the pro course is better than the standard layout. Kind of regret now that I didn't go to play this EO layout.
The Euro tour is covered better and looks great compared to the US courses. This is what dedicated courses get you, beautifully scenery.
You need to try Caliber in northern Idaho
Golf talk starts at 15:00
Why does it seem that Kristin doesn't get much love from Grip Lock boys. In my humble opinion what she accomplished in her Krokhol win was amazing especially after a long time off due to injury. Remember 1000 rated and keeps doing it (even when down after first round).
Was yesterday's lead card in fpo the hottest women in disc golf? All 4 are kinda fire
Silva and Keiti aren’t even in the same hemisphere as Kristin and Anniken.
Saarinen nah, but yeah Anniken is stunning
@@deadthemore3660Silva is one of those chicks you take the glasses off, do her hair and don't let her dress like a grandma and she'd be hot
Anniken definitely the most gorgeous woman in disc golf
Silva????? 🧐
The irony of “no free ads” while having the Apple logo front and center on the laptop.
Using Apple products gives you prestige like it or not so really it’s not a free ad. Hunter gains invisible points for using the rich man’s computer
@@jhartman3prestige? Oh boy, you're one of 'those' guys.
Finland is not a Scandinavian country. Finland is Nordic country. There is a difference :)
Damn you almost got me Hunter 😂 I'm 28 not 29 soooo close
Really seems like the standard for a course should be par=1000 rated
It has been sort of a goal at least for about 15 years here in Finland. Of course not in every course, but that is/was considered kind of ideal. Personally I don't care. I never check pars on holes even in new courses. I just play and see where I am at.
If hole is really tough, I don't care if I am happy with a bogey or even double bogey. Tournament play book I do based on the course and how holes fit my game. I don't make any plans based on par number. To me that doesn't make any sense. if they is an eagle chance without high risk, go for it regardless what the par is. If you win the field by making a par and you have a safe way to get it and tricky birdie, make a game plan for par etc. I have always thought people pay too much attention to par numbers.
@@kimmomatikainen1843 totally agree with your philosophy
I think Eveliina was planning to play there but dropped out at the last moment to concentrate for the EO/on her putting or something... 🤔
i want to hear more about foundation trying to get into the snack game
US golf courses have the real estate that US disc golf courses need to step up to what Krokol has to offer.
I feel like y’all managed to arrange your top 3 in the way that makes the least sense. You can prioritize recency(Ricky,Ab, GB), or you can prioritize wins (Ab, Gb,Ricky), and I get consistency wise AB had a bit of a lull. But I really am scratching my head at how you rank Gb higher than Ab when he now has the most wins and just beat him.
I’m glad they essentially called it not a full field in FPO like they always do. But they are making excuses now that Kristin won.
Stop the foolery, rathbun is player of the year and deep down you know it
eagles crossing is 70$ for a day pass😂 and the #1 course is only 5$ free on the week day before noon we got a problem here people
Eagles crossing is privately owned, by 1 person who put their money into disc golf, and staff is paid. #1 course is non-profit with 130 volunteers. A whole day pass at Eagles Crossing means at least 2 rounds, if you have the stamina. #1 course is $5 plus $8,000 to get there. Not even comparable. Outside of pay courses, the sport is 100% dependent on volunteers, still, who pay YOUR cost out of their pockets.
@@coachbrandon01 There are several privately owned courses in Finland and also championship level courses and fee is $5-$10/round or full year $50-$70 and you can play as much as you want after that.
$70 is a lot of money for a day pass. Maybe it would be more profitable if it was cheaper --> more players, or maybe it sells well with that price as well.
People in Oslo don't have to pay $8000 for a trip to a local course.
Eagle's Crossing has a chance to look for volunteers too. I think it is in a fairly remote location, but surely there is a town nearby. But even course maintained with voluntary labor is quite expensive. Tools, machines, gas, maintenance, food, drinks etc. Some courses and clubs sells merchandise or have a shop in the area or sell clinics or recreational events for companies etc.
trevor = triver
James Proctor snubbed in the top 10 with a win?
The course looked beautiful, but honestly I would love to see disc golf courses move beyond just grass and trees and super-manicured shit. Disc golf can be played in so many different, amazing environments (and that's one of the things that distinguishes it from ball golf), and yet I feel like a lot of people are locked into this idea that a "good" course has to look like a mowed grass park/golf course. Let's get a desert course on tour. Let's get a real mountain course on tour. Etc...
We need an urban disc golf stop! Kinda like a nascar street race, a course that plays throughout the city
Can someone point me in the direction of a disc golf podcast that isn’t cringe. These guys are brutal.
Who else paused this to go watch the Wynn Dragon music video again hahaha!
Ale, Krokhol and Järva are pretty equal in quality
It's okay boys I'm a grass addict too. I smoke it daily
Remember when PP was back? Lol
I remember Hunter was all over that.
She was back alright ,,,27 back from tattar
@@scottdavis5076 💥
European Open is by far from a full FPO field. No Ohn and Holyn are huge ommissions. That's 2 of the top 5 players.
6 out of the top 10 players will be there. 11 out of the top 20 will be there. It's unfortunate and disappointing for a major.
I really hope it's by choice and not financial. If it is financial, this is a crazy idea, but it would be cool to have some kind of a sponsor a pro's Euro trip or something. I'd support someone to make the event and thus the sport better. I think the community would come together.
The European Open FPO field is improving each year, though, so it's not all doom and gloom.
Players have sponsors and they can get more sponsors to play abroad. All the best players have sponsors. Finding sponsors can be a bit of work though.
Finnish players pay 40-60K/year to play in the US. Spring trip 20-30K and and fall trip the same. It shouldn't be that difficult for top players to find money for a 2-week trip to Europe if Europeans find money to stay in the US for 4-5 months. They are not rich or from rich families and they don't make that much price money. Well, Niklas, Henna and Eveliina are not very far from it.
It’s definitely not financial with holyn and ohn the others maybe but it’s not like they would have won anyway
Why is no one outraged that this was a golf course converted to a disc golf course. Why do you think it looks so good?!? We all hate golf course conversions right?!? I absolutely love it and I think it's the #1 course in the world but it's less of a wooded course than Portland open
somebody let Trevor know that his random ‘blurting out’ while someone else is speaking gets tiring real quick.
it happens way too often and is highly cringy - at 16:22 is a prime example.
Let's here the new Paige Pierce take .......
ohn blow another big lead this weekend at the Kansas city wide open and lost to Lisa fakuas
Lisa who?
Why did you need sons to secure your business? Daughters can do it too fyi
Thank you. I was just going to say the same thing.
They are 3 guys. It's kinda cool that all of their kids are also guys
Cmon, just think about it for like 2 seconds
Because they all have boys.. relatively close in age.. That they presume will grow up friends? Stop trying to be woke when no one was oppressing anything.
They need boys because the Konman Shaman wouldn't be the same without a beard.
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Just commenting to say your guy's fpo top 5 is terrible ❤
How is this grip locked? fucking nonsense. Why do I have to fastf orward past half the content. Y'all can have fun on your own time. all my thoughts at 12minutes.
No matter what your mommy told you, your opinion does NOT matter!!!
Yeah! Who wants to have fun?!?! Disc golf isn’t for fun! Screw fun!
agreed, skip to 27:00 to mpo
@@nautilusshell940 garbage comment
U guys really disappoint me in Trevor’s trivia sometimes… this is one of those times
Legit question, not just for Trevor but for Hunter and Konner as well…
Why, as soon as you are able to jump putt (right outside the circle) do you resort to that? It doesn’t appear to be something that is practiced regularly and it makes more sense to me just to putt like normal. Or just practice it more so it doesn’t look like you guys are throwing a flapping duck at the basket🤷🏻♂️ 😂
Norwegians take more pride in themselves and their community than the US.
I think pretty much EVERYONE takes more pride than the US does, though as a whole we like to ACT like we do the most!
It may also just be that other countries spend their tax money WAY better than we do in the US!
Anyone else feel like MOST of the holes at the event this past weekend were pretty boring to watch? For what is called the number 1 course in the world according to Udisc (Incase you didn't hear that 50 times this past weekend) I was disappointed. Looked fun to play but I just didn't care for watching MOST of the holes. Hole 1 was the worst.
Yeah, you weren't the only one. Just seemed like one of those courses that is more fun to play than watch.
I enjoyed it a lot until ricky ran away with it
Loved watching hole 1.
That's the way it always is. Courses the players love are boring to watch and courses the players don't like are better on film.
I thought quite the opposite, this was far and away the best golf course conversion to watch imo. It had every shot, forced certain lines and tricky greens. Plus the booth was great the whole tournament too.
You guys are calling a course hard that Ricky destroyed, u better go look at KC wide open scores if you’re looking for a difficult pro level course -9 to win over 3 days! I bet no more than 3 holes averaged under par
Who played?
Lol, Drew Gibson won with a 1038 event rating. You don't realize how insane it is to go bogey free out at Krohkol, let alone shoot -33. He doubled the last year's winners score under par.
@@prattacasterThanks for adding critical context in response to the initial comment.
The first 2 lines that Hunter read were basically a Dynamic ad.
The Truth, and fuzion?? Yo…