Why Does God Allow a Broken World? w/ Fr. Thomas Joseph White, OP
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- This short clip was taken from a recent livestream with Fr. Thomas Joseph White, OP: • Hour Q&A W/ Fr. Thomas...
In this video, Fr. White explains why God allows our world to exist in its brokenness.
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God (good) doesn't create misery, ugliness and conflict (hell). Ignorance (absence of god (good)) does.
Such a lame nonsense answer. "God is the creator of everything. Except evil of course, he is good. Oh yeah I forgot he exterminated the whole planet except 2 of every kind that one time. But it was really really for the good. Just look how well it turned out."
@@Moldylocks X-Files. For the hostile evangelical vampires (greed) to comprehend earthling humans (love)...is like giant black holes in space trying to comprehend the stars (light and warmth) that they suck out of heaven (joy, beauty and harmony).
Question. Why are the evangelical counting corpses using the bible as a springboard to perform somersaults to do the exact opposite of "love their neighbors" and "treat others like they want to be treated"?
Answer. This is sick. Because these simple concepts are too far out there to grasp for vampires (greed).
God is perfect...Yesterday Today And Forevermore....Infinite Perfection
At the beginning of covid my employer let me go. I've got plenty saved and the time spent alone has allowed my faith to explode. Now I want to pursue a Life dedicated to christ. What is the path to becoming a monk? I have no interest in marriage or preisthood, I just want to learn and work.
A SEVEN MINUTE video on why God allows a broken world?? Too short.
My favorite answer to the philosophical query into the problem of evil is from the Melchizedek Cloister Emerald Order, on my playlist "Indigos, Starseeds, Lightworkers." It's by no means complete since the videos are just clips or summaries from several workshops from 1998-present... But they make sense on a logical level at least. They do have a different definition for "God," and how we are related to God, creation/manifestation mechanics, as well as the origin of evil. Evil is, in terms of energy physics, quantum drain ~ black hole drain... Vampiric technology and activity.
Somebody responded to my comment, I guess? "This is New Age garbage," but it doesn't show up on this thread.
This institution has been warning us against the New Age since 1998.
From what I can understand, God is the highest good, truth, beautiful and so on. There is no error in God. When a woman has a child there is two major events, that is conception and birth. For God our conception was in His love and our birth is when we come into existence. And when God made His creation he wanted open possibility within the confinement of set laws. So He made Everything outside of Himself but still has means to influence the world and it’s set laws. But He does not infringe on the choices and consequences. The only thing He does is give a suggestion or paths that can remedy the situation, if the person chose to. One way or another goodness will prevail.
What man struggles with is the reality of living in an open possibility world. The suffering that comes with the price of living and the horrors of evil.
1 tragedy and evil are not the same thing
2 what is good and evil
3 the human limitations on innate weaknesses that were made after the time of the fall.
Memo: if you don't understand the terms being used, it doesn't mean it's "word salad". You need to understand the terms he's using to understand the argument. If you don't, of course it's nonsense to you.
“Yeah I understand a little better but I actually don’t understand”....
No doubt !!! What brand/kind of coffee do you prefer Fr Thomas😄
That was an outstanding answer... Thank You...Yes I will have to listen a few times because I know I missed some of it...Kinda like a math problem...sometimes you think so hard on it you lose the understanding so you walk away and come back and many times it becomes clearer 😄 I’m not very good at mathematics either
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God transcends the world but is the world. God is not the maker of the world, like a woodworker in His shop. God is the very substance of the world but is beyond the world. Many egos in their trillions (even insects or amoeba) create effects but the results such as conflict or suffering are not God. God utterly transcends the world in Love.
How do you know so much about God
@@radscorpion8 Learnt from other Adepts and Teachers.
Me too I learned "The Tangible Structure of the Soul" and cosmic history ~ the so-called Angelic Wars is still happening and it is here. Humanity is an angelic race, unfortunately compromised and dumbed down. Now sitting ducks.
"God could have not created the world." What?
Could it be that God creates an infinity of different creations?
If yes, is only one creation
@@tomasveras2175 Why? Why limit God? If it happens once, why not many times?
Even if there were, would should not be concerned or commited to anything other than what we have been created into and made responsible for. In other words, there is no salvitic benefit to us asking or perusing such questions because they have nothing to do with our revealed salvation. Tend to what we have been given, according to the ways we have been commanded, and leave all else to the Lord. In Christ, Andrew
If God is alone and made men in his image, why are we social beings? Shouldn't that imply there is more than one God. In fact, doesn't God say in the Bible that he is the most powerful of all gods, implying there are in fact other gods? Maybe there's a pantheon of Gods, all ruling one universe each and they try to compete by getting the most people to worship them as possible. Hey, I can make a religion out of this. It has just as much evidence as the Christian God or Allah.
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🐟 05. THE PHENOMENAL UNIVERSE:
As demonstrated in the previous chapter, there is insufficient evidence for the existence of a separate, objective universe, external to the perceptual faculties of a conscious being. The fact that the phenomenal universe (“prakṛti”, in Sanskrit) of mind and matter (or name and form [“nāmarūpa”, in Sanskrit/Pali]) exists (that is to say, is perceived) solely within the personal consciousness of any individual human or animal, is superlatively logical. If this material world actually existed as a SEPARATE reality, then obviously, it would have limits, because the nature of matter is that it has a measurable, three-dimensional finitude. Despite what some may claim, no perceived object can be infinite or eternal.
Therefore, if one were to travel to the edge of the universe, there would need to be something WITHOUT the boundary of the universe (some other “universe”, which contains this universe). This contradicts the very concept of a universe (literally, “turned into one”). Therefore, there cannot be a so-called “multiverse”, for if it were so, the summation of all discrete universes would properly be termed “universe”. Our observable universe would then be merely a “cell” or “bubble” of the totality of material nature.
The late, great Professor Dr. Alan Watts’ response to the question: “where is the universe located?” was: “nowhere and everywhere”.
One of the most misunderstood aspects of this space-time universe is just that - TIME. There are various extant theories of time. However, time is a very simple concept to grasp for one who has experienced his own timeless nature. That usually occurs during meditation practices or during awakening experiences (see Chapter 17 to understand spiritual awakening). Possibly the easiest way to understand time is to use the analogy of a movie. It may take a couple hours to watch a motion picture, yet the whole film is contained in the form of a single digital file (or in the case of older mediums, a reel of photographic film). The story of this universe may take hundreds of billions of earth years to complete, but from the perspective of eternity (literally, “no time”) it is not even as long as the blink of an eyelid. Indeed it cannot be measured at all.
To use movie jargon, the story of life is already “in the can” (of film). Read Chapters 08 and 11 to learn about predestination and causality.
This material manifestation is composed of space, time (or, to be more accurate, space-time), energy, and matter, the latter of which comprises eight elemental groups - the five GROSS elements (“mahābhūta”, in Sanskrit), which are perceivable by at least one of the five senses, and the three SUBTLE elements (“tanmātra” or “atisūkṣma mātra”, in Sanskrit), which are symptomatic of localized consciousness.
N.B. Dark matter and black holes are not included in this system, as cosmological science has yet to determine their structural composition.
The five gross material elements and three subtle material elements are (from most palpable to most intangible):
SOLIDS (AKA earth - “bhūmiḥ” or “pṛthivī”, in Sanskrit) are made of densely-packed molecules of a steady shape at room temperature.
LIQUIDS (AKA water - “jala” or “āpaḥ”, in Sanskrit) are composed of moderately-dense molecules conforming to the shape of its environment or container (and in nature, often including at least some water molecules).
GASES (AKA air - “vāyuḥ” or “marut”, in Sanskrit) consist of rarefied molecular particles of no fixed shape.
HEAT (AKA fire - “analaḥ” or “tejas”, in Sanskrit) is made of kinetic energy (which may appear visibly as fire, or at least heat waves).
ETHER (AKA space - “ākāśa” or “khaṃ”, in Sanskrit) is a vacuum consisting of three-dimensional space (length, breadth, and width). However, recent investigation has confirmed that empty space is actually filled with virtual particles (matter and antimatter). Thus, the explanation for the material universe being created from “nothing” (anti-matter) is plausible, according to quantum field theory.
MIND (“manaḥ”, in Sanskrit) is composed of sensual perceptions, instinctual thoughts, abstract images (including memories and fantasies), and emotions. Not all animal species have a mind, but function purely on base instincts, originating from their genetic code, via a nervous system.
INTELLECT (“buddhiḥ”, in Sanskrit) consists of conceptual thoughts. Only the very higher species of animal life possess an intellectual capacity.
PSEUDO-EGO (“ahaṃkāraḥ”, in Sanskrit) is comprised of the “I” thought (specifically, the illusory, ephemeral self-identity). Only humans possess the self-awareness necessary to question their own existence. Read Chapter 10 for a full disquisition of egoity.
Each of the FIVE perceptible material elements corresponds to one of the senses of the body. E.g. In outer space, where there is a vacuum (ether), one can detect light with the eyes, yet space is not tactile and cannot be smelled or tasted, nor can sound waves travel via space.
At the opposite extreme, solid matter can be seen with the eyes, felt with the sense of touch, tasted with the tongue, smelt with the nose, and heard with the ear (when the solid matter is physically vibrated).
Beyond these eight material elements is the TRUE self - which pervades the entire body, and indeed, which encompasses the entirety of existence as the Universal Self (“ayam ātmā brahma”, in Sanskrit). Ultimately speaking, the authentic self/Self (“ātmana/Paramātmana”, in Sanskrit) alone is. The following chapter deals more fully with the concept of Infinite Awareness (“brahman” or “puruṣa”, in Sanskrit).
However, all eight elemental groups are, in fact, “made of”, or an APPEARANCE in, Consciousness, since, as demonstrated previously, naught but Consciousness “exists”. Consciousness is the ultimate reality (“prajñāna brahma”, in Sanskrit). Just as a wedding ring is contingent on gold for its very existence, so too does the phenomenal universe depend entirely on Beingness (or “Isness”), Consciousness, and Blissful Quietude.
Although The Absolute cannot be verbally-described, (otherwise, “it” would be an OBJECT), as a concession to materialists (who often demand concrete answers from religionists), Infinite Awareness is said to exhibit three innate attributes, known as “sacchidānanda”, a compounded Sanskrit epithet, consisting of the three words “sat”, “cit” and “ānanda” - Eternal Being(ness), Existence, or Truth; Pure Consciousness, or Perfect Knowledge; and Unalloyed Peace (often translated as “bliss”. However, the term “bliss” connotes an ephemeral experience of euphoria, whereas “peace” is a steady-state, absent of any form of temporal perturbation).
Because Absolutely Nothing (“brahman” or “puruṣa”, in Sanskrit) is Infinite Creative Potentiality, “it” actualizes as Absolutely Everything.
Attributeless Consciousness at Rest (in Sanskrit, “Nirguna Brahman”) manifests as this phenomenal universe (Consciousness in Action, or, in Sanskrit, “Saguna Brahman”). In the verbiage of quantum physics, the enfolded implicate order appears as the unfolded explicate order. In REALITY there is no separation of anything at any time (assuming that Consciousness is a “thing”, and that time is a property of The Uncaused Absolute). That the total sum energy of the universe is zero, implies the non-existence of matter (i.e. no thing is objectively real).
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I don't understand why God allowed a broken world and I don't want to know because I don't think I can know or understand. My brain can't process Aquinas etc. I just accept that God created Paradise and the first two humans stuffed it up and continue to do so because we allow ourselves to be influenced or cooperate with evil. In my simple mind I understand God perfectly when I am at Mass.
Well a god could exist and not be what people describe that God could be. Not all good, not all powerful, and not all knowing.
How were there only 2 first humans and at what point in evolution did they come to exist?
@Based Byzantine because the omni god is contradictory. Scriptures show that Yahweh isn't omnipotent, omniscient, or omnibenevolent. Instead of arguing or twisting logic, itd be honest for believers to accept that its the case god isn't omni.
@Based Byzantine there's more evidence for evolution than there is the resurrection
@@thescoobymike
Macro evolution? By that do you mean observable repeatable? Give me any evidence you have for observable repeatable macro evolution. No one is denying Micro evolution.
It's just too complicated for our tiny minds ( especially mine!😂🙈).
This guy needs to get together with Deepak Chopra to have a word salad competition. I've never heard so many meaningless statements that fail to arrive at anything resembling a point, let alone the question posed.
@Jackson Thanks Jackson. You can pray for me, and I'll think for you. First lesson of the day, it's you're not your...
@Jackson Very true, they are different things. Thinking is effective...
Mark: I’m sorry your ears don’t work.
@@CJMEP My ears are fine, that was the problem... I'm sorry your brain doesn't work.
@@generichuman_ I’m assuming you are a non-believer based on the interactions above, but I could be wrong. If that is the case, then why are you here? Sorry if that’s very blunt. I never understood why people who don’t believe in God are so wrapped up by something they don’t even believe exists... so why put in the time for something that doesn’t matter? Not trying to be insulting in any way I’m honestly just curious. No judgement from me and good day to you sir!
Blah blah blah blah blah free will the end
Because he himself is broken.