I like how people will look at this and say MoC is easy,but when you go in you wont even 3 star floor 10, cuz you dont have the exact characters, builds and have not memorized all theory crafting.
On top of that it also involves a lot of rng of the enemy targeting, example at minute 4:10 if Kafka gets hit there before the aoe attack she's just dead
Still struggling to 36 star this with my E5 QQ. I was having horrible luck with getting her follow-up attack. I will try again tomorrow, and as long as I have decent rng, she should be good.
Thanks, managed to beat this moc with 1 cycle remaining. Although I had 1 character die in each half, beating it in 10 cycles is the real challenge here.
Have you tried experimenting same team but different sustain for phase 1? Can't get past it with Kafka, Sampo, Ruan Mei and Gepard. Don't have Luocha or Huohuo so its giving me quite the trouble
Do you recommend Kafka if all my dots are e0? My current first team is Blade / Bronya / Pela or Silver Wolf / Huohuo. I have Ruan Mei too, and I want to save for Fu Xuan rerun thats why Im asking, cause I have no jades
I really love Kafka design but I still wonder if she can be used in hardest MoC floors, thank you for give me the answer. I will get her in next banner!!!!
yes she can, moc has just gotten a lot harder and ignoring weakness is much harder than before (for everyone) this one just doesnt have a nice side for her, but since she is good with Sampo and can proc his stuff she can still do it
I noticed you use Wind DMG and ATK focused relics instead of Prisoner set for Sampo. How does Prisoner 4pc interact with Kafka when triggering Sampo's DoT? Will it ignore DEF because it comes from Kafka's attack, or does Sampo need to have Prisoner 4pc for the triggered DoT to ignore DEF?
The latter should be correct, the DoT itself comes from Sampo, so it scales with his stats and gear, Kafka only acts as the trigger. Guoba explains this in his latest video on DoT mechanics.
Im struggling to stay alive in the 2nd half with fu xuan. Might just swap her with huo huo and maybe i can clear. Not having JL lc feels bad tho. I have quantum set and should prob invest my bronya a lil more
How do you have soo much break effect ? I have BE on all my relics and while a few low rolls it adds up to more than your, but you got 171% BE and I barely got like 80%
Is break effect rope still good on her? Im thinking of getting her lc but i want blades lc too since i got him luckily and i have secret vow s5 but his lc is way to good on him
If u are talking about RM she needs ER rope tbh if u have S5 Memories that's her best in slot for 4 star or just use cogs on her if u have dnt have S5 Memories for me honestly she needs that 3 turn ult her resp pen is just that good.
@@zbxbiiin- then use meshing cogs S5 + panocony/vonwag + ER rope for 3 turn ult and use theif relic for easier to achieve break effect requirement u dnt necessary really need to hit 180 BE(includes traces) on her if u are having bad luck on getting BE subs.
I like how people will look at this and say MoC is easy,but when you go in you wont even 3 star floor 10, cuz you dont have the exact characters, builds and have not memorized all theory crafting.
Yep, this MoC is much harder than before. It's much more difficult use my non-elemental advantage teams for a 3 star clear anymore.
On top of that it also involves a lot of rng of the enemy targeting, example at minute 4:10 if Kafka gets hit there before the aoe attack she's just dead
Yea can't wait to pull for black swan and her lightcone to replace Sampo
@@Strikerhero1000 I dont think she replaces Sampo she just buffs him cuz Kafka needs at least 1 other Dot character to maximize her damage.
I 36 starred MoC without ILDan/Fuxuan/Argenti/Luocha/Huohuo/Blade
First half i used
Clara Natasha SW Ruan
2nd team i used
Jingliu Bron Pela Bailu
This just gave me hope that it is possible to use the DoT team for the first half. The first half imo is wayyy harder than the 2nd half
Yep. I've had more retries with first half since they sometimes snipe one of my chars.
Still struggling to 36 star this with my E5 QQ. I was having horrible luck with getting her follow-up attack. I will try again tomorrow, and as long as I have decent rng, she should be good.
If you get like 1-2 cycles off from 36 stars, then you can keep continuing using QQ. You might get lucky with her. She’s really rng dependent.
Thanks, managed to beat this moc with 1 cycle remaining. Although I had 1 character die in each half, beating it in 10 cycles is the real challenge here.
Can I replace Huohuo instead of luocha in team 1 and Fu Xuan instead of HuoHuo in team 2?
Kafka was a breeze but the swarm insect holy Natasha really cannot solo sustain 😭😭
Oof sorry to hear that. I haven't done any clear with 4 star healer yet, but it's gotta be much harder.
@@HyrionCh beat it after switching pela with gepard lol
YES.
Have you tried experimenting same team but different sustain for phase 1? Can't get past it with Kafka, Sampo, Ruan Mei and Gepard. Don't have Luocha or Huohuo so its giving me quite the trouble
u should use pela skill before u attack on jingliu for the extra 12% ice res penetration
Yeah I sometimes skip to save sp or just straight up forget that the debuff lasts for two turns instead of one.
Kafka vs Kafka
40% lightning res enemies 😢
Can u do a Kafka+RM showcase in MoC 11 too?🥺
Sure. Do you want first half or second half?
@@HyrionCh first half( which has lightning weakness Gepard)
Do you recommend Kafka if all my dots are e0? My current first team is Blade / Bronya / Pela or Silver Wolf / Huohuo. I have Ruan Mei too, and I want to save for Fu Xuan rerun thats why Im asking, cause I have no jades
Yeah she's still good with e0 dots. You can use her as hypercarry with tinyun and pela as well.
@@HyrionCh I see, I think I will save for Acheron and fu xuan rerun tho. But thanks for the reply
I really love Kafka design but I still wonder if she can be used in hardest MoC floors, thank you for give me the answer. I will get her in next banner!!!!
Yeah get her. She will also be a lot better once the next 5 star Nihility char releases.
yes she can, moc has just gotten a lot harder and ignoring weakness is much harder than before (for everyone)
this one just doesnt have a nice side for her, but since she is good with Sampo and can proc his stuff she can still do it
you are play good ❤
I noticed you use Wind DMG and ATK focused relics instead of Prisoner set for Sampo. How does Prisoner 4pc interact with Kafka when triggering Sampo's DoT? Will it ignore DEF because it comes from Kafka's attack, or does Sampo need to have Prisoner 4pc for the triggered DoT to ignore DEF?
The latter should be correct, the DoT itself comes from Sampo, so it scales with his stats and gear, Kafka only acts as the trigger. Guoba explains this in his latest video on DoT mechanics.
@@ondrejgardavsky ok that was my suspicion, just wanted confirmation. thanks!
Im struggling to stay alive in the 2nd half with fu xuan. Might just swap her with huo huo and maybe i can clear. Not having JL lc feels bad tho. I have quantum set and should prob invest my bronya a lil more
Yeah her LC boosts her damage by a lot. You'll have to build JL and your support more probably.
I'm actually having more trouble with moc 11. I don't have a good electric character for the first half.
Serval's a good dps. I used her to clear MoC 11, but mine is at E6.
How do you have soo much break effect ? I have BE on all my relics and while a few low rolls it adds up to more than your, but you got 171% BE and I barely got like 80%
I have S5 Memories of the Past light cone. Might be the case.
Is it possible to clear this only with e0 JL? Cuz every MoC showcase that uses JL always either S1, E1 or both.
yes it's possible, I did it
i have e0 herta jl and i’ve cleared it pretty comfortably
Yeah you can. Boss has ice weakness, so it makes it a lot easier for her. But you'll need a better build than those with s1 or e1.
Luocha 🤤 , i mean i just pull all mommy character as a f2p
isn;t that effect hit rate overkill on Pela? don't need over 100 for that. also you got any limited 5 stars with a eiloden.
Yeah that's true. I usually use Luka's LC for her, but I forgot to change it.
Is break effect rope still good on her? Im thinking of getting her lc but i want blades lc too since i got him luckily and i have secret vow s5 but his lc is way to good on him
If u are talking about RM she needs ER rope tbh if u have S5 Memories that's her best in slot for 4 star or just use cogs on her if u have dnt have S5 Memories for me honestly she needs that 3 turn ult her resp pen is just that good.
@@Zulyaki nope i dont have motp
@@zbxbiiin- then use meshing cogs S5 + panocony/vonwag + ER rope for 3 turn ult and use theif relic for easier to achieve break effect requirement u dnt necessary really need to hit 180 BE(includes traces) on her if u are having bad luck on getting BE subs.
Yeah Zulyaki said. Meshing cogs are great for harmony buffers, they’re next best after MotP.
Can i use silver wolf instead of pela?
Yeah you can.
Can I see his character stats
You can find it near the end of the video.
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