If I Don’t Speak in Tongues Am I Going to Hell? | Dr. David Norris
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- Author and Urshan Graduate School of Theology Professor Dr. David Norris presents on the topic of "If I Don't Speak in Tongues Am I Going to Hell?" as part of General Conference 2021.
General Conference 2021 was held October 5-8 in Indianapolis, Indiana. For information about future UPCI General Conferences, visit upcigc.com. To learn more about the work and ministry of the UPCI, visit UPCI.org.
This seminar was sponsored by the Pentecostal Publishing House (PentecostalPublishing.com).
The answer is yes. As a 30 plus year member, born and raised in the organization - the UPCI believes if you do not speak in tongues you are not saved. To try to imply anything else and not say it plainly is at the very least disingenuous and frankly dishonest.
I myself was born and raised in the UPCI myself... And I concur with you! What’s worse is that David K Bernard says (and the rest of the org) is that faith isn’t real until you speak in tongues. They will literally deny the salvation of people who are trusting in Christ! Different gospel!
What if you someone lost their tounge or isn’t able to speak
It’s not real faith until you speak with tongues it’s real faith that leads into receiving the baptism of the Spirit and then tongues will be the initial sign
@@hadleycarr2254 I been baptized in the the name of Jesus and I did not receive a gift of lounge, I know many Christians who been baptized in the name of the holy spirit who never received. Why?? Because god doesn’t give the gift to everyone even Paul said so. If you speak in tongue it’s meant to be prophecy the interpretation of speaking in the Bible by many Christians is confused. Speaking in tongues is supposed to happen when you receive a prophecy, meaning you are being sent a message by god, there must be a separate person who interprets that message or it’s not prophecy. The Bible is clear that people can fake this ability to be like others in the church who claim to have this ability but if there is not someone to interpret or a message from god it’s not prophecy. Speaking in tongues in the Bible spoken by Paul is referring to a prophecy not a form of worship. If there is no interpretation to your tongue or prophecy you are to keep it to yourself and not mislead others of a miracle when no miracle has taken place without the message
Brother you have got to realize there are divers kinds of tongues there is tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance when somebody receives the Holy Spirit and then praying with your spirit to God as a Spirit filled man there are the gift of tongues and there are message tongues like you refer to but notice in no place in acts are tongues interpreted after acts 2 which were not even interpreted but understood by hearers and such miracle didn’t happen again in acts
Acts 2:38, they spoke in other languages. So if you continue to push that verse as an outline for salvation, then I expect EVERY single person in a service, who speaks in tongues, to be heard by someone who can say exactly what was being said.
I have brought this up many times. I see people speaking in tongues or other languages but who am I to know if they truly are?? Is it noise or what is it?? I feel like this is a missing link among other things.
That happened in Acts:2 but not in Acts:10.
Acts 10:46
[46] For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
It happens sometimes but it’s not a requirement. Jews from every nation were there in Jerusalem for the feast of Pentecost in Acts:2.
Acts 2:5
[5] And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
Jesus said all nations needed to be taught the Gospel.
Matthew 28:19
[19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
What better way to spread the Gospel than to have devout Jews from every nation come experience the outpouring of the Holy Ghost and bring the good news back to their country. Makes since the plan of salvation would be given on the first day of the church to every nation.
Didn’t happen Acts:19 either
Acts 19:6
[6] And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
If there's no one to interpret should remain in silence. If we have the holy spirit we have this Galatians 5:22-23. Otherwise we do not
Paul tells us in Corinthians tongues and interpretation should only happen 2 or at the most 3 at a time. He is not contradicting what happened in acts but addressing spiritual gifts not the infilling of the Holy Ghost
This was very frustrating!
There was a question.
And the answer is...
THERE IS NO ANSWER!
This reminds me of a story...
rubbish
The answer he gave the pastor on the plane was @26:15. And ends with him quoting Acts 2:38 to the pastor.
@@michaelk7299 He never answered the question, "will you go to Hell if you don't speak in tongues", the answer, of course, is that salvation isn't based on speaking in tongues.
@@revrufusw I think u missed the point.
Don’t miss the Forest for the trees. You may have not received the answer you are looking for, but maybe this will help. John 3:5 when answering Nicodemus about how to be born again Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. In other words you cannot enter into the kingdom of God without being baptized by water and baptized by Spirit. When you are baptized by Spirit you speak in tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance. Speaking in tongues is evidence that you have the Holy Spirit. Having concrete evidence that you have it is importance since you can’t make it into heaven without it. If you repent and are baptized in the Name of Jesus for the remission of sin, the promise is that you WILL receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. If you don’t have it yet, continue to seek it. Ask the Lord for it everyday, go to the altar. Seek the Lord until He gives it to you. If you truly have questions. Feel free to contact me via email at: RandallCreativeDesigns@gmail.com
It was a blessing to hear you, bro Norris, address your book; Acts 238. I bought that book for my 40 year old son for Christmas. He was a Christian and greatly used of God in Bible quizzing and church plays until he graduated from high school. He’s not served God since but listens respectfully when I talk to him about The Lord. So I’m praying that somehow your book will stir up his heart. I didn’t read the book but now I see that it’s a good choice. Praise God I believe Him for great things!
This was so heartfelt,broke my heart,made me want to cry😢 but I've been holding back for so long,greiving for my son that is not here any longer,and I was never angry towards God but more anger toward myself, God is good 👑🙏 I still praise and worship Him because in some way I believe it's still all about Jesus Christ.
My father died in 2020 and one of my biggest regrets in life was that I wasn’t living my life for the Lord back then. I feel like if I were I would have been able to lead my father into a relationship with the Lord. All I can do is move forward and make sure to minister to others ever chance I get.
Thank you Bro Norris for baring your heart. What beautiful testimonies! I’m so thankful to be apart of the UPCI and grateful for such great Brothers and Sisters of faith, like yourself. May God bless you!
No, you will not go to hell if you don't speak in tongues.
It’s not about tongues it’s about the Holy Spirit. John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Unless you have the Holy Spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of God. How do I know if I have the Holy Spirit or not? Because I speak in tongues. That’s the evidence the Lord gave us. Just like we are saved by grace through faith and not of works. If we have faith that faith will be demonstrated by our works of obedience to the Lord according to His Word. Faith without works is dead. It’s faith by word and deed not just word. Your works demonstrate your faith and your speaking in tongues demonstrate that you have the Holy Spirit.
Certainly agreed in most part. There are two types of "tongues" there are spiritual tongues but this does not help nothing to others, that is why it says is for the person itself. If you speak in different tongues meaning another language then yes, it does speaks to the unbelievers. But if there's no one to interpret then remain silence. Speaking in tongues is a manifestation but not necessary if you do not speak you dont have. Galatians 5:22-23 tell us the fruit of spirit
@@RandallJFeinberg a believing heart changed into the image of Christ is the evidence of the Holy Spirit, not speaking in tongues. That is a teaching of men not God and 1 Cor 12:29-31 makes that clear.
Why didn’t it take your 30 minutes to answer that question?
This is great but what about John the Baptist being filled with the Holy Ghost while still in his mothers womb?
Ruach, not pneuma.
Greetings Bro. Norris, Have just finished reading your new book Acts 2:38, and I love the way that you laid it out with the seminar as well as the school setting along with the witnessing to the minister on the plane. As a matter of fact I'm also making my way through your excellent volume... "I AM" and I must say (though I am self educated and have read it twice), I like the way that you arranged the notes, lining up page and note numbers. Thank you for your scholarship and willingness to allow the theological expression to be on a level that, if I apply myself, I can understand and comprehend. This is my third time reading "I AM" and I am finding it much more rewarding this time around... Thanks Again, Arthur Farraway, Hamilton, Ont., Canada
What a gentle walk down the road of salvation. Thank you Brother Norris! Blessings on you for sharing this!
It's a wild amount of hate in this comment thread, people saying he didn't answer the question, others saying pentecostals are wrong and that tongues aren't required.. I dunno, I loved this video. Loved his detailed story telling ability. I followed every word. I felt the holy ghost as he spoke. Not to sound arrogant or condescending but I pray everyone in these comments that God will reveal truth to you. 🙏 Peace and blessings friends.
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That's because he's talking in circles in an effort to confuse people w/nonsense theology. The Bible says..."But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil." Matthew 5:37
@@renewalofmind2266 agree
Andrew, it is frustrating when a pastor talks about a Heaven/Hell issue and never answered the question... he talked a lot but never made a biblical point... that's confusing, and God isn't the author of confusion.
@@revrufusw amén
This is essentially the same question I had/have as my family and I have began attending a UPC in the last year or so.
Amen!!! Love it
Dr. Walter Martin was right... UPCI members always cop out in questions like these
Exactly
@@kchilz32 just like when you press members long enough on the Trinity they say it’s a mystery
The Oneness is a mystery too/The Godhead is a mystery...Jesus said The Father And I Are One (Oneness) Jesus said that another would come in His Name(Holy Ghost) that’s Trinity...Some Of Our Jewish Messianic Brethren refers to the Godhead as Compound Unity...There’s 3 (Trinity)that bears record in Heaven and these 3 are One (Oneness) ...Just dialoguing
@@5warpotentials258 as a upci member we do as well 🤷🏽♂️
Thank you Pastor Norris for powerful encouraging words of God
God bless you and your family
From Sydney Australia
Love you Bro./Dr. Norris!! Thank you for EVERYTHING you have contributed to the kingdom of GOD 🙏🏽!! GOD bless you!
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He did not answer the question why
@@timothyhaithcock1253 That wasn't the question. Watch the whole video. The title is misleading. Also, go watch the rest of his content, particularly w/ Dr. David K. Bernard and you will understand his stance. Nonetheless, it is okay for people to honor this great man of GOD.
@@Tmb31 Bernard also avoided answering directly, I know because I attend a UPCI church
@@kchilz32 We don’t get points for attendance. We must strive to understand the will of GOD. Both Bishop Bernard and Dr. Norris have, in times past, discussed in great detail the Holy Spirit and tongues. I do not attend a UPCI church, however, I have followed the teaching ministries of both of them. Sound excellent teaching. There is no harm in honoring them for their contributions to the body of Christ all over the world.
What about the man on the cross next to Jesus. He was never baptized and never prayed in tongues and yet Jesus said today you will be with me in paradise
Different dispensation some would argue /yet if Jesus said it I believe it “Today you will be with Me in Paradise” that’s good enough for me/reassurance..Blessed Assurance
The thief on the cross died while the law was still in effect during the law you had to repent and have faith to be saved but after Christ died and resurrected it all changed
@@davidortega357 yes it all changed. You are saved by grace now
@@davidortega357 🤔 didn’t Jesus die before both men on the cross? Hence why there legs where broken
I very much enjoyed this.
Thank you! 🙏🏻
To my current low level understanding of the scriptures is that speaking in tongues is a gift, but not a requirement for salvation
John 3:5 Jesus says to Nicodemus, Verily, verily (meaning truly, truly), I say unto thee, Exept a man be born of water (baptized in Jesus name) and of the Spirit (speaking with evidence of tongues), he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
@@jessicaclements9686
1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet
@@Mike34006 I am not looking to argue, I was also not teaching, just simply trying to help. I apologize for that. However, in the most general terms, women have always been involved in the ministry and work of God. "The children of Israel brought a willing offering unto the LORD, every man and woman, whose heart made them willing to bring for all manner of work, which the LORD had commanded to be made by the hand of Moses," Exodus 35:29.
Although that verse does not demonstrate a speaking role for women, there are many examples. From ancient times, women have played many significant roles in the nation of Israel and in the Church.
We cannot properly interpret Paul's instruction without considering all the other defining verses in the Bible on the subject of women's role in the ministry. If we ignore the other scriptures that ALSO DEFINE the subject, we will surely be in error. We must not formulate ANY doctrine on a few verses while ignoring many other verses that address the same subject. All scriptures have to be reconciled to each other.
Before we jump to the conclusion that Paul would never let a woman have a voice in church, we must face the fact that Paul himself said that "every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head." Aside from the issue of head covering, he gives us this evidence that women DID PRAY AND PROPHESY in the church. That was NOT silence! Their voices were heard praying. Their voices were heard prophesying. Why did not Paul demand THEM to remain silent?
Read St. John 7:38-39
@@warriorpwasw am I blind?? Because I don't see were it says about speaking in tongues? Oh, ur implying that it mentions speaking in tongues? I get it now
Galatians 5:22-23 these are also evidences of the holy Spirit
Beautiful! Thank you so very much!
If I've never heard you speak in tongues then what is that to me? And vice versa also.
Speaking in tongues is not salvation. It's part of salvation. Baptism isn't salvation. It's part of salvation that we must obey.
Babies speak with stammering lips and babble also. Babes in Christ need to mature like Paul says, to speak and pray with the understanding
speak in tongues are go to hell, that is how they do it
@@VictorianMaid99 I know. They're simply wrong. Nothing wrong with speaking in tongues, forbid not as Paul said.
@@wjdyr6261 Oh yes of course, a person can supernaturally speak a language they never heard and in another possible miracle, a person can just speak normal BUT the person HEARING can UNDERSTAND what is said. No debate here :)
I always thought the climax was the Resurrection. The truth and everything else hinges on upon this one event. Paul acknowledges this very point. For if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
I totally agree with you I believe in what our lord Jesus did but this man did not answer the question and I wonder why
Agreed. He's more focused on birth of church, than the amazing Savior coming back and saving us from our sins!!
100% What this man did was 1. Not answer the question because he is afraid to say what he truly feels...that you are not saved without the evidence of speaking in tongues. 2. He is very careful to pick and choose scriptures that fit his and his religions narrative.
The question that was asked was a doctrinal question that needed to be answered with scripture. Rather than exegete Biblical passages Dr Norris chose to tell stories, and quoted almost no scripture. Dr Norris has a great voice for narration and tells interesting stories, but no knowledge or Biblical understanding was conveyed in this video. At the end of the video his final words of advice to those that are asking this question, was to "try this out. See if God does miracles..." That is called Experience Based Salvation and the Mormons use this exact same technique. Christians should NEVER form doctrine based on their experiences. Modern day Christians should be like the Bereans in the Book of Acts who were "more noble" than the other Jews for they "searched the scriptures daily" to see if what Paul was telling them was true. I would BEG anyone that watched this video to LET THE SCRIPTURE HAVE THE FINAL AUTHORITY in all doctrinal matters of salvation and to NOT USE experiences to form a doctrine of salvation.
Emotions can be deceiving/misunderstood...yet when Jesus healed the sick they went away rejoicing...Just dialoguing
I believe he answered this way because there is no way for a man to answer this question. Men are not God, so they cannot tell you what WILL take you to Hell. God is merciful and a good judge.
Instead, Bro. Norris chose to explain that, “God has good news for everyone.” and that we should seek the Lord with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength.
The promises in the Bible are for us. This is how Bro. Norris chose to answer this question that cannot be answered by man.
Our job as Christians is to teach the word God has given. We should lead people to Jesus, not in fear to His truths. Fear is not a lasting way to be saved (fear is not of God).
I believe that Bro. Norris answered this in a way that Jesus Himself would have answered. He used parables. He followed the direction of our Lord and Savior.
Very disappointed in his answer...
@@shacumminsit’s either yes or no if it’s no explain why , if it’s yes explain why
You cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven without the Holy Spirit. John 3:5. How do you know if you have the Holy Spirit? Because you speak in tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance. Therefore, if you don’t speak in tongues then you don’t have the Holy Spirit and if you don’t have the Holy Spirit then you cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Paraphrasing the great Marvin Hicks "I was like a blind man, in a dark room, looking for a black cat that wasn't there."
So, no answer?
The answer he gave the pastor on the plane was @26:15. And ends with him quoting Acts 2:38 to the pastor.
I grew up in the UPCI. I love my ex-brothers and sisters. This is the one doctrine I could not agree with. Today as a Conservative Mennonite I feel saved. But I’ll always remain close friends with the UPCI. They mean well.
Our two Great holy movements have a lot in common. Some things we can simply agree to disagree on.
So beautiful and over whelming, I'm so blessed to hear this, God bless you and use you mightily as I'm sure he does.🙏🙏🙏🕊️
I felt like I was listening to a politician. There was no answer.
Dear Lisa, In the story, around 18:30 through 18:60, somewhere thereabout, he is telling of the worship that is going on, and God's presence fills the room, and the people received the Holy Ghost as they did in Acts 10. There would be the answer if it was not a necessity, then why does God keep giving it to those who obey Him Acts 5:32? Humanity fell into sin; we are born into sin at our natural birth; in John 3:1-8, Jesus teaches we must be born again. Jesus is introducing the new birth. (being born of the water and the Spirit), we are born of God, and it is a transformation; John 3:8 requires some study, but the word (sound in The Greek language is fo-nay) is where we get our word phonics which means sound, language, or voice, so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Please contact me here if you want more information about being born again.
The answer is found in so many places in the Bible. For one place, try Romans 10:9.
There was definitely an answer.
Lisa Wilson exactly, the same answers the others have given you... No answer
The answer he gives is the focus needs to be on receiving the Holy Spirit not tongues. Tongues does not save us but His Spirit does and Reverend Norris was pointing out in so many ways was to seek the experiences found in the Bible and the experience he was focusing on was being baptized by the Holy Spirit. So many today stop at believing like those in Acts 19:1-6 and in that story in Acts Paul leads those believers to a deeper experience which is the climatical experience of being baptized with the Holy Spirit. In every Holy Spirit baptism you will find in the Bible there was a outward evidence of the Spirit infilling. I encourage you to open your Bible and read the 4 locations someone was filled with the Spirit and ask how did the know they got it. And if you have learned that the Holy Spirit comes when you believe then why did the Apostles have to come in Acts 8 to pray with people who believed and were baptized to receive the Holy Spirit? (Acts baptisms can be found in chapters 2, 8, 10, 19) hope this helps
Thank you . And God bless you.
I don’t feel like he answered the mans question. But I will say, this guy is gracious and humble. Unlike most Pentecostals that are proud and haughty.
Great job Bro Norris
Many God fearing God loving non UPC apostolic people walk a pure life and practice the Bible.Hard to pin them down and say that God is not with them
Love hearing my old teacher speak. Loved his classes.
What state were they in?
This is a very long answer to a very simple question. This guy should run for political office.
Lmao! 🤣
Most of them in leadership roles aré similar
Am I the only one who had difficulty following the point he was making??
Not alone Ace! 🤣
Nope, he beat that bush to a pulp
What an amazing man of God. May God continue to speak through Bro. Norris.
I wasn't able to listen in its entirety, I don't need to fall asleep while driving he's got that kind of voice
Ephesians 2:8-9 - 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Everyone who says that they are apostolic Pentecostal or not. If you are not preaching or a teacher repentance and remission of sins you are not apostolic nor Penecostal
This is saying that you cannot earn your way into heaven by works. It’s not saying works are not essential or required. Works are a demonstration of our faith or in some cases lack there of. Read: Ephesians 2:10, James chapter 2 and Hebrews chapter 11. To see a clear picture of the relationship between faith and works. The Lord most definitely wants our acts or works of obedience.
Correct, saved by grace. Jesus died for us so there is nothing to do that as the old covenant, we had to do sacrifices for remission of sins. Now it is free. Now you need to obtain it. Like an example is, lets say we need to make one step to reach God, God is there waiting will you walk? does this considered an act? yes but it does not mean salvation is by your act, but is the act to obtain it
Does anyone have a time stamp of where he actually answers the question ? I didn’t hear it…
That’s because he didn’t answer it. In Apostolic Oneness circles it is an implied, but absolute NO!
That eliminates most of the reformation, and most of church history. But that is why they label themselves as Restorationist instead of Reformed.
They want to restore the church to the Jewish church of Acts 2, back when they would go to the temple - the very same Jesus prophesied would be destroyed. Willful ignorance of Acts nature and conclusion - how the gospel went from Jews to Gentiles (Acts 28:28) has led them down this path of “restorationism”.
@@arc-michaelr9580 no Apostolic wants to return to Judaism, or Temple worship. That’s a highly inaccurate assumption / speculation.
He never answered it, it was click bait, or a conversation starter... Maybe he has another video where he does.
he never answered the question only tried to sell there snake oil
@@arc-michaelr9580 total click bate, their numbers are down people are bailing out of false religion
It doesn’t mention tongues on the Damascus road with Paul or the Ethiopian eunuch. Curious how then it could be a critical component for salvation
"If I don't speak in tongues am I going to Hell?" The question was never answered.
Here's an answer for you. There's no such thing aa Hell. Hell is a construct of Norse mythology. Kjv translators needed a word for Gehenna, which is a trash-dump, so they used Hell in its place. If you believe in Hell, you might as well believe in The Mighty Thor & The Avengers from Marvel Comics.
@@renewalofmind2266Even if the correct translation is trash dump as you say. Is still getting cast into the lake of fire. 🤔
John 3:5 tells us we cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven without having the Holy Spirit and we know that we have the Holy Spirit because we speak in tongues. If you don’t speak in tongues you don’t have the Holy Spirit and if you don’t have the Holy Spirit you cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Keep seeking and the Lord will give it to you. And what an Amazing gift it is! Hallelujah! 🙌🏻
"Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents & scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: & nothing shall by any means hurt you." - Luke 10:19
^^Mehhh...it's all a buncha Upci crazy-talk 🤪 & nonsense. Next thing you're gonna tell me is that "evidence" - proving a person has the Holy Ghost - is if they pick up a snake & let it bite 'em. I'm not doing that either.
"If believers truly had the Holy Spirit within them, Hensley argued, they should be able to handle rattlesnakes & any number of other venomous serpents"
"The practice began in the early 20th century in Appalachia and plays only a small part in the church service. Participants are Holiness, or Pentecostals."
"However, historians agree that Hensley's advocacy, leadership, and particularly his personal charisma, were important factors in advancing the Pentecostal snake handling & spreading it throughout the southeast United States."
Short answer is no. Galatians 5:22-23
So, what's the answer?
*QUESTION:* Were any of the bad actors in the Bible (Pharaoh,Jezabel, Herod the "Great," Judas Iscariot, etc.) ever warned about hell? If not, why not?
NO, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOD‘S ELECT. JESUS ONLY DIED FOR HIS SHEEP NOT THE GOATS. JOHN 10:11
@@dwashington1333I'm curious, Jack. Was any Bible character taught or warned about, or threatened with, a future in hell?
Thank you Bro. Norris. I do miss being around you and Sister Norris. Pat
Ihave prayers for your àll people everywhere aurond the world 🌎 in the name of Jesus Christ King of King Hallelujah Amén
Seeking after a sign of speaking in tongues for salvation, is not of faith, because faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen [ Hebrews 11:1 ] And without faith it is impossible to please Him [ Hebrews 11:6 ]
I always remember what Jesus said “this wicked and perverse generation seeks a sign”
Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is not for unbelievers but for believers.
We don’t follow after signs ,signs follow us!These signs shall follow them that believe
@@johnwall1, what signs follow you?
Wow , so powerful.. MY GOD !!
The reason we cannot say the event of speaking in tongues (languages) like in Acts 2:6-8 - “every man heard them speak in his own language” KJV is NORMATIVE or PRESCRIPTIVE is because Peter himself is astonished in chapter 11 - roughly 9 years after Acts 2…
“And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.”
Acts 11:15 KJV
“The beginning” - he didn’t say last week at sister so and so’s prayer meeting. Or yesterday at the rally, or last month at the convention. Peter said “in the beginning” a clear indication this didn’t happen all the time, nor was it expected to happen that way.
Please never forget the Spirit is a gift. NO ONE begs for a gift, we simply believe and receive. NO BEGGING.
The ACTS 2 experience is:
-mighty rushing sound
-tongues cloven as of fire
-speaking in intelligible languages others can hear
And it results in the furthering of the Gospel - the revelation that Jesus is the messiah, the Son of God, whom God allowed to be sacrificed and he foreknew this. Acts 2:23 - and how the Jews were expecting a different messiah, while crucifying this Jesus as a heretic and false teacher - of this they had to repent.
You missed the context there though because Peter is not astonished that someone else is speaking in tongues, but "as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that He said, John indeed baptized with water; but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit. Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as He did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?"
He was astonished that the GENTILES also could receive the Holy Spirit, not that he hadn't witnessed anyone else speak in tongues for 9 years.
Exactly!
@@allenwoodward9258 I think what the original comment is saying is that if speaking in tongues upon the reception of the Holy Spirit was the normative experience for all believers, then it is odd that Peter would specifically refer to the "beginning". This phrasing makes it seems like the event at the beginning was a singular experience.
Tongues don’t save you Only the Blood Of The Lamb saves Of Calvary’s Cross ❤Unknown Tongue is for self-edification in the Holy Spirit ❤
You have to receive the spirit before you can operate in the gifts.
But receiving God's Spirit doesn't always involve speaking in tongues.
@@tamaralikecamera Not correct, but it may make you feel better.
Amen you are so right . SPIRITUAL GIFTS are for SPIRITUAL BEINGS including TONGUES! You DO NOT receive TONGUES to GET SAVED you get them because YOU ARE SAVED ALREADY
@@tamaralikecamera no they do NOT !! TONGUES ARE A GIFT to set one up for ministery
1St Corinthians 12-15
Amen.
Didn't talk about whether one goes to hell without tongues. Maybe wrong title.
Very loaded title and I have yet to watch this. But there are hypcrities which speak in tongues, and relatively good people who don't. Speaking in tongues is not a ticket into heaven. This requires a life long walk with God and commitment to Him. But we receive many many benefits after receiving the Baptism of the Holy Ghost including strength to live for God and power to overcome sin. Without this there is no way we can live a Holy Overcoming life. Receiving the Holy Ghost is just the start but a necessary and mandatory one.
Romans 8:9
Rom 8:9 KJV Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Amen
Did I miss the answer?
Scripture is so clear with this… It’s Faith
we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works (Ephesians 2:8-9). Grace Alone. Faith Alone. Grace alone means that God loves, forgives, and saves us not because of who we are or what we do, but because of the work of Christ.
Anything other than this is a false Gospel.
✴ _11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works._ (Titus 2: 11-14; KJV)
This is just saying you cannot earn your way into heaven by works, but the Lord requires our obedience and our works of obedience are a demonstration of our faith and a demonstration of the condition of our heart. Without works our faith is dead. We believe in word and in deed, not just word, but no one deserves salvation and there is no work in and of itself that can earn us salvation. It’s about relationship with the Lord and we are to living a daily walk of obedience with him. As you read the word you will see how often the speaks about the importance of our obedience. Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. That’s an example of works of obedience. Salvation comes through a daily walk with the Lord which requires faith and true faith is demonstrated by works.
Luke 9:23 KJV
23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
@@RandallJFeinberg obedience is the fruit of the gift of salvation and the love for Jesus and NOT the requirement. It’s very clear. We can’t get saved every day because of a past sin. Hebrews 10:14z
No one is going to hell. If believe in hell, you were lied to.
The gift of the spirit of the Lord can't be limited to speaking in tongues .God only will do what we proclaim of him.Anyways thank you for sharing your experience here.
speaking of tongues is a sign of the spirit. of course the gift of the spirit only comes through the Holy Ghost (Christ in us).
Brother it’s the initial sign but it isn’t only tongues if it was only tongues myself would be in trouble the Holy Spirit leads to all truth it brings holiness and the gifts of the Spirit
The UPC believes that tongues is the initial evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit at salvation. So, no tongues, no salvation. In churches that push this doctrine to the ultimate degree there are seekers who fake tongus. They want to be saved and accepted so bad that they artificially produce the experience, sometimes copying what they have heard others saying.
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It does not take 30 minutes to answer one question.
Where can I find “with the initial evidence of tongues?” I have the spiritual gift of divers tongues but what saved me was the finished work on the cross and grace through faith in him alone. God the Father sent his Son so why do you insists the Son is the Father when Jesus said the Father was in him and also that the Father was greater than him. And if Christ said he would ask the Father to send the comforter and that he would come in my name why do you insist on calling the Holy Ghost a title? He’s the gift that comforts until Christ returns? Do you believe Jesus when he said he came to do the will of his Father who sent him and not his own? Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God?
No Sir you are blessed and jessus christ curixifid on the cross ❌ and give you blood healling stemp on the Head and blessed you and your family Amen Hallelujah 🙏🙏
There are three instances only in the book of Acts to where believers recieved the Holy Spirit and what occured immediately upon them recieving is recorded, Acts ch.2,10, and ch.19.
In each instance the first thing that happened was that they spoke in tongues. According to the biblical Law of Repetition the Word often repeats something three times to point our attention to an important spiritual truth.
Also in ch 8
1st Corinthians 12-15 is repeated at least 3 other times as well
Also this teacher just said he didn’t like these people
If you have the gift of tongues but have not love/charity you are like a clanging gong
@shannon9800 In 1Cor.12-15, Paul is saying that love and charity are important even if you have spoken in tongues. He isn't saying that speaking in tongues isn't important.
Matthew 5:37
what do you do with a new comer who has never felt the Holy Spirit and watches everyone and including you and does what you are doing by immitation and says he is doing everything in the Holy Spirit just like you and he never spoke in tongues and nver prays and all he cares about is wrestling and Sports he even talks about Sports in Church and dont really listen to the Serman and Message
His eyes are not on Jesus but on the world. Maybe give him a bible study and mention how to keep your eyes on Jesus through prayer and obeying his commands.
Ok, great. You could've just said Yes or No.
He doesn't answer the question of the video. The real problem is that he is AFRAID to answer it. If speaking in tongues is THE evidence that will always come at salvation then the answer to the question is obvious. But he struggles with that because he struggles with UPC dogma.
I would like to think those higher up in the UPCI are smart enough to struggle with the organization's dogma. Yet, at the same time, I honestly don't know which way is worse.
This is the correct answer.
You must be born again of the Water and Spirit! Tongues is the evedance!
@@ronnierowe1312 That's not what Jesus said to the thief on the cross and Elizabeth didn't speak in tongues when she was filled. Stop ignoring 1 Corinthians 14. But since you're obsessed with your organization you'll never see the forest for the trees.
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Well if the UPCI believes in the gift of tongues shouldn't you have been able to speak to them in Russian ? I know how they felt. I speak English and I was feeling like I was on a long rabbit chase through Sherwood Forest.
Learning a language isn’t the same thing as having the gift of the Holy Ghost and speaking in tongues. An atheist can be English and learn Russian, doesn’t mean they have the Holy Ghost.
Well, that was the understanding 120 years ago, that is what Charles Parham believed. This came to be known as “missionary tongues”. But when missionaries went overseas and noticed it didn’t work, they re-interpreted tongues to mean unintelligible tongues. Look it up, this is well documented. “Missionary tongues”, “higher criticism” is the interpretation method they used.
Charles Parham himself believed the reason the entire world hadn’t been reached yet was because denominations didn’t speak in tongues-other languages- to do the reaching out.
it is all fake, the first missionaries failed horribly going to China, it is history they are trying to bury
@@arc-michaelr9580 Parham was a devil! simple history
Read, study, and some day you'll understand the levels of tongues
John 3:5
Salvation is A GIFT AND TONGUES IS A SIGN OF THE SPIRIT DWELLING IN OUR HEART - we are THE TEMPLE OF THE HOLY GHOST - HE FREELY GAVE AND WE FREELY RECEIVE BUT JESUS FOUGHT FOR THE KEYS TO HIS KINGDOM - YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN OF WATER AND SPIRIT- The Gift of Tongues and interpretation is a desired gift to be used in the BODY OF CHRIST FOR UNDERSTANDING TO EDIFICATION - The Baptism of The Holy Ghost poured out on THE BELIEVER YIELDS HIS TONGUE IN SUBMISSION AND SPEAKING IN TONGUES IS A SIGN AND EDIFIES THE INDIVIDUAL- THIS IS THAT SPOKEN BY THE PROPHET JOEL - THE REFRESHING WHEREWITH THE LORD GIVES REST TO OUR WEARY SOULS - and THE PROPHET OF OLD PROPHESIED THE LORD WOULD SPEAK TO HIS PEOPLE WITH STAMMERING LIPS AND ANOTHER TONGUE AND THE APOSTLE ADDRESSED TONGUES AND GIFTS TO THE CHURCH AT CORINTH - AND HE REITERATED- FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT - YET! THEY WOULD NOT HEAR!
and in conclusion - The Apostle stated - DO NOT FORBID TONGUES!!! IT IS THE GIFT FROM GOD!!! GOD USES OUR HEAVENLY LANGUAGE TO DO THE TALKING FOR US!
and JESUS TOLD SATAN - IT IS WRITTEN! 3 times HE DECLARED IT! IT IS WRITTEN!
MAN SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE (LIVING BREAD) but EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD! when GOD SPEAKS BY HIS SPIRIT THROUGH HIS HUMAN ORACLES - IT BRINGS BY THE SPIRIT- THE WORD TO LIFE!!!
THE REFRESHING THE RENEWING OF YOUR MIND TO BRING US TRANSFORMING POWER! HOW MIRACULOUS IS THAT? ITS JOY JOY JOY DOWN IN MY SOUL!!!
1Cor12:30. Period. That didn’t take 30 minutes!
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I have a whole lot to say...but I wont cause John 3 already covers this and so does Acts 2.....He knows the answer and wont say it. Tongues is part of Spiritual Birth process..no other way around it. John 3:5 kjv.
I never heard you address the title of this video. However, tongues is scriptural but not the climax of spirituality. It’s a gift! If you don’t desire it, then He won’t pressure you. Will you give a gift to someone who doesn’t desire it? So save your breath, if you don’t speak in tongues but you are saved then that’s fine for you. Those of us that have received this great gift don’t criticize those who don’t! But it is a gift. Missionaries have used this awesome gift to minister to villages, rural areas in Africa and otherwise. It saved their lives and the gospel was rendered in a heavenly language. But you are not forced to receive this gift! Blessings!!
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Picture in your mind the last twenty people you came in contact with. If Hell is real, nineteen of those people will scream in agony forever. How does that make you feel?
UPCI has very unbiblical theology
No answer.
Apostolic s lean super heavy on Acts 2:38 but run right over Acts 10:38 and not believe the words of Peter there..
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Well he didn’t answer the question. But I will purpose this question. How does the UPCI church get around 1 Corinthians 12? The word clearly states the Holy Spirit will give different people different gifts. It never says every person will receive the gift of speaking in tongues. The word never says but I assume those people who Jesus left to continue his church were given every gift of the Holy Spirit. The entire chapter tells how there is 1 body and different parts. Acts never says be baptized and speak in tongues. It says “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost”. It clearly never says and speak in tongues. And Corinthians clearly states there are different gifts given. So just because those people who God poured out the Holy Spirit on spoke in tongues doesn’t mean all will because the word clearly says everyone will get a different gift.
1) Read all the accounts where people received the Holy Ghost. You will see that ALL present received the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues. Ex. Acts 2:1-4 it says ALL received the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues. It doesn't say just a few got the "gift of tongues"
2) Read 1 Cor 12-14 together, you will hear Paul say that there is a difference between tongues that edifies oneself (i.e prayer tongues) and a separate operation of the Gift of Tongues. There is the initial baptism of Spirit that all believers receive and then there is the gift of tongues/interpretation that somebody WHO ALREADY has the Holy Ghost operates in a church gathering. Same Spirit of God, just two different ways God works in an individual vs when there is a group of believers in a church gathering. Two different administrations - One and the same Spirit.
1 Corinthians 14:1-40
He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; ...
Paul also instructs us to in his epistle to Pray in the Spirit. This is done by speaking in tongues that edifies ones self (what some call prayer tongues). When a believer speaks in his personal prayer tongues, it edifies himself. When a person operates the "gift of tongues" he doesn't edify himself but it is for the profit of the church that the church may be edified.
Acts 10
While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
**46 For they heard them speak with tongues,
and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized,
'which have received' the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Peter would not have known that they had received the gift, unless he had heard them.
Cornelius:
A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews,
As we see Cornelius was full of Faith a True Believer, he was already living a lifestyle which was so honest and righteous that God noticed.
We know he had Repented i.e. Died to his self will.
But, he wasn't quite in the boat yet. He needed to Burry the old man i.e. Washed, and Resurrected -- reborn, new spirit.
What in the world. I was hoping he would answer the question. Seems like a nice guy.
@@markgenn8967 in all cases… the hearers heard them glorifying God. How did they know/hear that if they didn’t understand what they were saying?
Look in the Greek originals. 1 Corinthians 12-14 “unknown” tongue. The word “unknown” is not in the original. Also, a tongue is a language. In Revelation you have people from every “tongue” same word in Greek. What the Spirit gives to each person in Acts is the ability to testify, whether it is in their language or a new language (tongue) but always so they are WITNESSES - witnessing. If you are not witnessing, then the Spirit is not using you.
What most people wish Acts 2:38 said is “you will receive the gift of the Spirit - with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance” but the scripture clearly doesn’t say that.
Another thing the scripture doesn’t mention is whether these 3,000 who believed and were baptized spoke in tongues. Can you imagine the tumult/Ruckus hearing not just 120, but now 3,000 people speaking in new languages (Acts 2:5) would have been? But this marvel wasn’t recorded - perhaps because that event wasn’t repeated again. Imagine the ripple effect.
Wow. The way he just nonchalantly passes over the relevance of the cross is frightening. Scary actually.
No it's the other way around it is scary that you don't see the importance of being born again of the Water and the Spirit! That's scary!
@@ronnierowe1312 How did you extract those words out of what was said?
it is CULTISH !
Exactly
Gibberish isn't a language
Speaking in tongues is a heavenly language. Ask the Lord to fill you with His spirit and you shall speak it too! 🙏🏻
Do you even have to ASK ?? Read your BIBLE, the words of JESUS and the message of Acts (Mark 16:15-20, John 3:3-5, Acts 2:38)
@13:32 Jesus baptized his disciples with the Spirit in John 20:22 “And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:”
John 20:22 KJV
Jesus has resurrected and been glorified.
And there was no speaking in tongues.
John the Baptist had the Spirit from birth, without speaking in tongues, because he was in the womb. Elizabeth was filled with the Spirit and prophecied.
“For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:”
Luke 1:15, 41 KJV
All examples of the Holy Ghost moving ON TO a believer the same way it moved on Elijah and Elisha. John said " the Holy Ghost was not yet given", and scripture does not contradict scripture.
@@ERLong-ww7yn NO BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT OF ..GOD WAS DEFINITELY PRESENT ,EVEN SO FROM THE BEGINNING. JESUS BROUGHT FORTH THE GIFTS AFTER HIS Dissention BACK TO HEAVEN . THIS WAS HIS PROMISE!!!! THE APOSTLEES WERE ALSO SAVED BEFORE THEY GOT THE GIFT AS WELL . Gifts ARE FOR THE MINISTRY MY DEAR ...
@@ibelieve98 you're contradicting Jesus in John 3, John 7, and John 14, but hey, there's false teachers everywhere
@@ERLong-ww7yn NO IT WAS NIT GAVEN YET ! BUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD WAS PRESNTV. THE Gifts WERE FOR MINISTERY DEAR ! NO CONTRADICTION . STUDY THE WORD. COME OUT OF GER MY PEOPLE. MODERN DAY PHARRESEES THAT DONT RECONIZE GOD'S SPIRIT AND SEEJS SIGNS
@@ibelieve98 I speak from the position of a minister who has experienced the baptism of the Holy Ghost and understand the workings of the spirit. You are apparently speaking from a place of misunderstanding and following traditions of men. Have a wonderful day and get saved.
NO!!!!!!!!
Hm5409, people in the Bible were saved before they were baptised with the Holy Ghost, you naughty oneness people make things up, things that oppose the Bible.
The Apostles and disciples of Jesus were saved 40+ days before they were baptised with the Holy Ghost.
The disciples in Acts 8 were saved days before they were baptised with the Holy Ghost.
Paul in Acts 9 was saved for three days before he was baptised with the Holy Ghost.
.The Gentiles in Acts 10 were saved just before they were baptised with the Holy Ghost.
The disciples in Acts 19 were saved, they could have been saved for up to twenty years, but they weren't baptised with the Holy Ghost until they met Paul.
All that is ever talked about is the book of Acts. Stop sweeping over 1st Corinthians 11-15. Literary 4 entire chapters addressing this
We are all supposed to be parts of one body not denominations.
There are literal rules and outlines about HOW one should speak in tongues in the churches but that is ignored completely
Yes you go to hell if one doesn't speak in tongues
No because your church speaks nonsense and you have no authority on this subject as a result.
The speaking in tongues is not speaking spontaneous jibberish while someone elses makes up an interpretation. The true act is miraculous in that a person speaking in tongues isnt speaking an angelic language (convient lie as no one knows or can prove this language) they are speaking a human language that they never knew/learned with fluency and the words are praise to God. These miracles can be proven because someone who actually speaks the language can give an interpretation.
You are just encouraging mass lying in the name of Jesus.... which im sure he loves when people lie for him.
Repent.
Did Jesus tell the thief on the cross to be baptized and speak in tongues? He believed and that was enough. There is no 3 step program to salvation. It’s simple so anyone can understand it. There is no dress code or hair code. That is NOT what the bible is about. You can NOT lose your salvation. It’s God’s gift. He doesn’t give to you and then snatch it back. You are saved by grace not works. That same grace that was enough to save you is also enough to keep you saved.
It’s funny that you people ALWAYS bring up the thief on the cross. Jesus wasn’t even dead yet, the thief was still under the Old Covenant. Of course he didn’t have to repent, be baptized and receive the Holy Spirit. It wasn’t until after Jesus died that the New covenant was put into place. We are still in the New Testament age, therefore Acts 2:38 applies to us!
Additionally, if someone willingly walks away from God and no longer believes, he obviously will not be saved! That scenario in itself disproves a “once saved always saved” mentality.
I can’t speak in tongues!!!!!!
You don’t need tongues unless the Spirit wants to give them to you. But if you are walking in the rights path and changed from what you use to be than that is the evidence of the Spirit
No, if you don't speak in tongues...you won't go to HELL . Once you're baptized in accordance to Acts 2:38, you receive the Holy Ghost. Salvation is granted through grace achieved by the practice of one's individual's faith.
False. Read about the house of Cornelius in Acts. They received the holy ghost before they were baptized. Jesus name, Father Son, Holy Sprit, its all good.
@@courtneymoore7916 @courtneymoore7916 you're wrong. Cornelius still was still required to be baptized. We're saved by faith, not by works. Bible says "faith cometh by hearing & hearing the word." Peter just told Cornelius his story about his ministry w/Yeshua Hamashiach. Bible says we're "saved by blood of the lamb & the word of our testimony. " Doesn't say we're saved by speaking in tongues. Also, baptism is the new circumcision. "In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision make without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Yeshua Hamashiach: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of the Holy Spirit of YHWH, who hath raised him from the dead." -Colossians 2:11 And, of course, baptism must be done in accordance to Acts 2:38 "Then Peter said unto them, repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yeshua Hamashiach for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit of YHWH."
@@courtneymoore7916 @courtneymoore7916 you're wrong. Cornelius still was still required to be baptized. We're saved by faith, not by works. Bible says "faith cometh by hearing & hearing the word." Peter just told Cornelius his story about his ministry w/Yeshua Hamashiach. Bible says we're "saved by blood of the lamb & the word of our testimony. " Doesn't say we're saved by speaking in tongues. Also, baptism is the new circumcision. "In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision make without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Yeshua Hamashiach: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of the Holy Spirit of YHWH, who hath raised him from the dead." -Colossians 2:11 And, of course, baptism must be done in accordance to Acts 2:38 "Then Peter said unto them, repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yeshua Hamashiach for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit of YHWH."
@@courtneymoore7916 @courtneymoore7916 you're wrong. Cornelius still was still required to be baptized. We're saved by faith, not by works. Bible says "faith cometh by hearing & hearing the word." Peter just told Cornelius his story about his ministry w/Yeshua Hamashiach. Bible says we're "saved by blood of the lamb & the word of our testimony. " Doesn't say we're saved by speaking in tongues. Also, baptism is the new circumcision. "In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision make without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Yeshua Hamashiach: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of the Holy Spirit of YHWH, who hath raised him from the dead." Colossians2:11 And, of course, baptism must be done in accordance to Acts 2:38 "Then Peter said unto them, repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yeshua Hamashiach for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit of YHWH."
@@courtneymoore7916 you're wrong. Cornelius still was still required to be baptized. We're saved by faith, not by works. Bible says "faith cometh by hearing & hearing the word." Peter just told Cornelius his story about his ministry w/Yeshua Hamashiach. Bible says we're "saved by blood of the lamb & the word of our testimony. " Doesn't say we're saved by speaking in tongues. Also, baptism is the new circumcision. "In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision make without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Yeshua Hamashiach: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of the Holy Spirit of YHWH, who hath raised him from the dead." Colossians2:11 And, of course, baptism must be done in accordance to Acts 2:38 "Then Peter said unto them, repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yeshua Hamashiach for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit of YHWH."
over educated scholars of ALL denominations hamstring their selves by trying to define Gods faith and favor. This particular man and ALL with his gospel ignores the fact that ALL in paradise from Adam to John the Baptist entered heaven through the blood of Jesus WITHOUT Pentecost.
Get a grip boys!!
John 3:13 no one has ascended to heaven but the son of man.
What you say is truth and fact also recorded. The baptism In The Holy Ghost is for here to fight the good fight. Has nothing to do with getting to heaven. It does however have to do with the depth and level a redeemed can dive into Christ.
If you don't have it fine. If you don't want it fine. If you do, ask Jesus not a man because it is He who gives it.
Now,
If the first two apply then shut-up speaking AGAINST the FIRE BAPTISM John, Jesus, apostles, and many thousands have received.
If all you do is pray in English then YOUR warfare is limited to English and YOUR carnal intellectual mind of flesh.
The weapons of our warfare are not carnal.
Belief is ALL that's needed for salvation but The Baptism in The Holy Ghost is needed for perfect warfare otherwise you people will keep blabbering about things you don't understand and WILL NOT RECEIVE.
SALVATION: John 20:22 Acts 8 & 10
Baptism with Holy Ghost and Fire:
Acts 8 & 10 and many others YOU DONT WANT TO BELEIVE!!
JESUS IS STARTING TO JUDGE THIS STUPIDITY IN HIS BODY, THE CHURCH NOW!!!!!
If you are reading this, run away from this teaching. As gentle, humble, and genuine as this man is... He is all those things and wrong. Find a Bible teacher that will bring God's word to bear on this issue. Find a teaching that will explain these passages in their context.
No, ppl should run TO this teaching because it is consistent with the whole word of God. This "praying the sinners prayer" to be saved is found NOPLACE in scripture! Acts 2:38 IS NOT OPTIONAL and if you resist God you WILL PAY ETERNALLY for your rebellion !
Sad. This professor beat around the bush when the man wanted the truth. Jesus never did this. Say the truth and get out of Jesus's way.
Could have been better if he stayed on point he lost me with his stories
One thing's for sure: You can not be baptized with the Holy Spirit without speaking in tongues.
Where’s the scripture, before Pentecost, has anyone been filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of tongues ? Yet the thief, all that are listed in Hebrews 11, and many others that died prior to, obtained a good report through faith. If God is not a respect of persons, are they going to hell ? The real answer is no, because Paul says in 1st Corinthians that not all heal. Not all speak with tongues. Not all interpret. And you’ll never find a scripture where tongue is babbling. In Acts when they spoke with tongues it was an actual language, not of their birth.
Not true.