It was so close! Big up to Inferno and Rafly 🔥 and yep! The ACE system is as Bow described it. There's a video on our channel where Madox explains the system, judging criteria and why we're testing it out :)
Wow that's a bad system. I get that the current system isn't perfect, but there's so many reasons that the ACE system doesn't work. For example, because it's not anonymous, there's a good chance the judges will try to be as kind as possible when judging so that they don't get hate. Also, having the max amount of points be 3 leaves very little room for nuanced judging, which would be especially noticeable the more beatboxers there are. Also, having each judge only judge 1 category is insane. What if I'm judging a beatboxer do a style that I don't like and I'm judging 'arrangement'? I don't like the way the whole style/genre is often arranged, so there's a chance I judge based on that and not how well it was actually arranged. There's a reason judges have multiple categories each. And that's because a lot of this stuff is subjective, so if one judge's bias leaks into their judging of (for example) complexity a bit, it doesn't matter because other judges are also judging that category.
@@jenxao1737 The ACE system is definitely not perfect, agreed! The reason categories are split is because if you were to judge a live battle using the conventional system, you would need to recall and consider all aspects of the battlers rounds to come to a decision. This is difficult to do objectively because judges have to make decisions based on hearing the battle rounds only once. As humans we have a limited memory capacity and often, what we like will stand out to us, making it easier for us to remember. We can only judge what we remember, and this is why in live battles, you can often predict which judge will vote for which participant based on the judge's tastes. With the ACE system, the judges can pay more attention to certain details of the battle round based on the category they judge. This however, doesn't mean they will recall everything perfectly either. We're all humans, have our own preferences and are limited by our knowledge and expertise. The ACE system isn't perfect but it was an attempt to minimize some of the weaknesses in the conventional judging system. A judge's bias can either be greatly amplified or minimized with this split in categories, which can be either a strength and weakness based on the judges. The 3 point max definitely makes it hard for nuance. The judges were talked to after the battles and they agreed too :) While no system will be perfect, we can explore different ways to minimize the weaknesses in each system. That's why ACE was tried out :) now the flaws in it are more apparent and we can work on improving the concept/exploring new ones At the end of the day, our efforts to innovate and improve will be marked with mistakes, but unless we as a community experiment and explore new ideas, our growth will be stunted :D
I am totally happy with the fact that you have reacted to this beautiful battle, it means a lot to me not only that you liked my rounds but that you have remembered our battle. To me is so crazy because you are my favorite beatboxer. Thanks a lot Dan ♥️
Your 2nd round was so good I don't even have words to describe how well your special sounds and bass mix. I'm not a beatboxer so Obviously my opinion sucks but you can make it far in the scene.
Yeah the A.C.E judging system is a little different than the usual and you can see some of the close battles it helps decide on. But to answer your question, each judge judges one category and only that category and when they judge, they can give 1 - 3 points depending on the performance. So when each judge has voted, they just add each of the points from each category together, and the person with the most points is the winner. The system was created by Madox in exchange for a mort sort of binary system of judging.
Wow that's a bad system. I get that the current system isn't perfect, but there's so many reasons that the ACE system doesn't work. For example, because it's not anonymous, there's a good chance the judges will try to be as kind as possible when judging so that they don't get hate. Also, having the max amount of points be 3 leaves very little room for nuanced judging, which would be especially noticeable the more beatboxers there are. Also, having each judge only judge 1 category is insane. What if I'm judging a beatboxer do a style that I don't like and I'm judging 'arrangement'? I don't like the way the whole style/genre is often arranged, so there's a chance I judge based on that and not how well it was actually arranged. There's a reason judges have multiple categories each. And that's because a lot of this stuff is subjective, so if one judge's bias leaks into their judging of (for example) complexity a bit, it doesn't matter because other judges are also judging that category.
Idk if youll see this but i really want a full version of "a little bit of luck" cause it sounded so sick on that guess the beatboxer ep. Also love your vids and beatbox keep it up
Hey dlow your my number 1 favorite beatboxer and I think it would be amazing to see you on Britain’s got talent because I know you would get a golden buzzer much love❤️ from the UK
It's just absolutely amazing that as one of the greatest [Arguably THE greatest] beat boxers of all time, that you're so supportive and can be surprised by fellow beatboxers and the sounds they put out. God bless you brother. Live your content 🙏🏻💙
Hey dlow i have seen that battle inferno vs you, and you were insane as always, also some of beats you used in kickback battles i already heard them from that battle, anyways great reaction have a nice day!
Would be great seeing you react to Antilt vs Max in the IT '21 as that was a super high quality battle all around, and would love to hear your thoughts on the outcome :)
Hey Dan, just a quick idea: I think if you did these reactions on stream it would be beneficial for your streaming career and CZcams as you get content for both platforms, something to consider maybe :)
He is pretty big on the original videos getting the necessary views and attention. A livestream isn't something people would just leave to go check out the video. Not saying that's his ideology, ofc :p
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It was so close! Big up to Inferno and Rafly 🔥 and yep! The ACE system is as Bow described it. There's a video on our channel where Madox explains the system, judging criteria and why we're testing it out :)
First:)
Wow that's a bad system. I get that the current system isn't perfect, but there's so many reasons that the ACE system doesn't work. For example, because it's not anonymous, there's a good chance the judges will try to be as kind as possible when judging so that they don't get hate. Also, having the max amount of points be 3 leaves very little room for nuanced judging, which would be especially noticeable the more beatboxers there are. Also, having each judge only judge 1 category is insane. What if I'm judging a beatboxer do a style that I don't like and I'm judging 'arrangement'? I don't like the way the whole style/genre is often arranged, so there's a chance I judge based on that and not how well it was actually arranged. There's a reason judges have multiple categories each. And that's because a lot of this stuff is subjective, so if one judge's bias leaks into their judging of (for example) complexity a bit, it doesn't matter because other judges are also judging that category.
@@jenxao1737 The ACE system is definitely not perfect, agreed!
The reason categories are split is because if you were to judge a live battle using the conventional system, you would need to recall and consider all aspects of the battlers rounds to come to a decision. This is difficult to do objectively because judges have to make decisions based on hearing the battle rounds only once. As humans we have a limited memory capacity and often, what we like will stand out to us, making it easier for us to remember. We can only judge what we remember, and this is why in live battles, you can often predict which judge will vote for which participant based on the judge's tastes.
With the ACE system, the judges can pay more attention to certain details of the battle round based on the category they judge. This however, doesn't mean they will recall everything perfectly either.
We're all humans, have our own preferences and are limited by our knowledge and expertise. The ACE system isn't perfect but it was an attempt to minimize some of the weaknesses in the conventional judging system. A judge's bias can either be greatly amplified or minimized with this split in categories, which can be either a strength and weakness based on the judges.
The 3 point max definitely makes it hard for nuance. The judges were talked to after the battles and they agreed too :)
While no system will be perfect, we can explore different ways to minimize the weaknesses in each system. That's why ACE was tried out :) now the flaws in it are more apparent and we can work on improving the concept/exploring new ones
At the end of the day, our efforts to innovate and improve will be marked with mistakes, but unless we as a community experiment and explore new ideas, our growth will be stunted :D
@@justintansc Rafly is king..
Inferno is nubbRafly is king..
Inferno is nubb
@@namadepannamabelakang8301 Heii mana respect nya? pls stop komen kek gini, norak lu anj
I am totally happy with the fact that you have reacted to this beautiful battle, it means a lot to me not only that you liked my rounds but that you have remembered our battle. To me is so crazy because you are my favorite beatboxer. Thanks a lot Dan ♥️
You killed it man!
You are so good.
Keep it up🖤🖤
Infierno sos un crak jaja.
U killed it man, cant wait to see more music from u! much love.
Tu eres el verdadero ganador Inferno 💙
Your 2nd round was so good I don't even have words to describe how well your special sounds and bass mix.
I'm not a beatboxer so Obviously my opinion sucks but you can make it far in the scene.
Our respect for D-LOW from Indonesian beatboxer 🇮🇩❤️
Bro, kapan rilisnya black clover movie
@@taufiqurrahman9692 wkwkw sama bro gw juga nunggu
@Love Twilight iyalah bro, Perwakilan beatbox indonesia dilawan wkwk
Jangan terlalu membanggakan dan sombong masih banyak yg di atas Rafly skill nya.. langit masih ada langit.
@Love Twilight siapa yg malu bro? Atau justru gw bukan org indo? Karna katanya kalau rafly kalah, bakal memalukan indo sekali. daripada malu, Justru harusnya bangga dong delegasi indo bisa bertanding di ajang internasional, sekalipun itu kalah
that was a really close battle, big up for all of them 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah the A.C.E judging system is a little different than the usual and you can see some of the close battles it helps decide on. But to answer your question, each judge judges one category and only that category and when they judge, they can give 1 - 3 points depending on the performance. So when each judge has voted, they just add each of the points from each category together, and the person with the most points is the winner. The system was created by Madox in exchange for a mort sort of binary system of judging.
Up
Bow. Stop stalking me.
Thanks for the explanation Bow!
Wow that's a bad system. I get that the current system isn't perfect, but there's so many reasons that the ACE system doesn't work. For example, because it's not anonymous, there's a good chance the judges will try to be as kind as possible when judging so that they don't get hate. Also, having the max amount of points be 3 leaves very little room for nuanced judging, which would be especially noticeable the more beatboxers there are. Also, having each judge only judge 1 category is insane. What if I'm judging a beatboxer do a style that I don't like and I'm judging 'arrangement'? I don't like the way the whole style/genre is often arranged, so there's a chance I judge based on that and not how well it was actually arranged. There's a reason judges have multiple categories each. And that's because a lot of this stuff is subjective, so if one judge's bias leaks into their judging of (for example) complexity a bit, it doesn't matter because other judges are also judging that category.
I have so much respect for a soul, like yourself, that tells those who are watching to like the original video first. 🙏 much respect boss.
Makes me so happy to see dlow posting again 😁😁
😢😢😢
TERIMA KASIH SUDAH REACT RAFLY INDO🇲🇨
I love your videos dlow!
Nice vid! love ur channel, keep it up!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Idk if youll see this but i really want a full version of "a little bit of luck" cause it sounded so sick on that guess the beatboxer ep.
Also love your vids and beatbox keep it up
I dig that ACE judging system, very new and interesting concept.
Hey dlow your my number 1 favorite beatboxer and I think it would be amazing to see you on Britain’s got talent because I know you would get a golden buzzer much love❤️ from the UK
It's just absolutely amazing that as one of the greatest [Arguably THE greatest] beat boxers of all time, that you're so supportive and can be surprised by fellow beatboxers and the sounds they put out. God bless you brother. Live your content 🙏🏻💙
Agree with you. Good video Dan, big ups
Hey dlow i have seen that battle inferno vs you, and you were insane as always, also some of beats you used in kickback battles i already heard them from that battle, anyways great reaction have a nice day!
Jadi kesimpulannya yg di omongin dlow apasi bang, gabisa bahasa enggres soalnya hhe
Yeaah respect to you D looooooww😻🔥
RAFLY SO SICK🇲🇨🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Plz continue watching all the beatbox international throwdown battles 2021, D-LOW🔥❤
Im happy too see you perform D
Love the content. You seem like a good dude. Love to give my support
Dlow is back 😍
This's a great Reacting Video to watch.👀💙
YOOOOOO AMAZING VIDEOOOO
What a random video Dan, it's amazing.
i love the background 🤩❤️
Yeah please react to Vino vs Demellow. That battle was crazy
FINALLY FROM DLOW. I LOVE U SO MUCH FROM INDONESIA 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for reaction❤ love from indonesia
Please react to REMIX vs LEEVY International Throwdown 2021 !!! It's a crazy battle !!!
Yesss!!
seriously so insane
YEEEESSSS
YES I was just about to suggest this!
that battle is fire
your a legend dlooooooooow
Never missed to liked the original video as you said 🤗🤗🤗
D looooooow my inspiration💙
Dlow 🔥
WHAT THE FUCK ???? I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH A COMEBACK IN A 2D ROUND!!!
GOD DAMMIT INFERNO YOU'RE FUCKING HELLA INSANE!!!
Nice reaction Dlowww
Finally, dlow react to rafly..
Big up from Indonesia 🇮🇩 🔥
Haha psti seneng bgt ni rafly , d react ama panutan 🤣
@@popoi343 wkwk bner
Yoi
@@popoi343 yoi brok
Goyang 🤣
Would be great seeing you react to Antilt vs Max in the IT '21 as that was a super high quality battle all around, and would love to hear your thoughts on the outcome :)
heck yeah!
Best battle in the tourney imo
Epic battle dude
If there is one battle you should watch from IT21, it's Max vs Marvel. That was hands down the best battle of the competition
7:01 What's that sound!!🤩🔥
The look on D-low's face😂😂😂
that was crazy. eshh 🔥
Can't wait for leevy vs remix reaction ⚡⚡
Check out Max vs Antilt in semi-finals. It's my favorite battle I think.
Great reaction! I hope you react to some sinus I would love that.
I really hoped for this lol
We would love to see more it21 battles
amazing d low I continue to support Chanel d low I'm from Indonesia great d low
Wooow😳... il explose 🔥🔥🔥
Very very sick men wtf🤯🤯
judges give up to 3 points per category, so there are 2-2 ties or 3-3 ties in certain categories
Grande dlow
Big up to our beatboxer from Indonesia bro❤️
THANKS D-LOW FOR THE REACTION 🖤🍻
We need that Rafly vs Leevy 🙏🙏🙏
Woww amazing!!! 🐥
hello dlow my greetings, from Indonesia the spirit of making content🤗
Hey I was just wondering if you still do those 1 hour coaching sessions. If not then I’ll just keep tuning into the sick streams ;)
I don’t think he does anymore
Big fan from Indonesian bro ❤️🔥🔥
SHOW-GO - You're Gone Nice beatbox :)
Thank you from Indonesia
I LOVE YOUR 1
STUDIO
really cool match of inferno and rafli, and it's crazy. Congratulations to Indonesian beatbox Rafli
Respect too u Dlow, Big Up for UK Beatboxer🔥🔥
Kamu orang indonesia ya
Türk müsün
@@masridhohermawanto589 org depok kynya bg 🗿
@@popoi343 wwkwkw orang Makasar bang
uk? ujung kulon?
Лучший 🔥
Mustache coming along nicely 😁👍
Respect dude🖒
yeahh from Indonesian dloww together 💥
Big Up Dude!❤
Clear & fast
MAX vs ANTILT is the craziest battle ever
I agree with @Sleeper 100% should react to Remix vs Leevy, Dlow.
Oh man deffinatly watch Vino vs DeMellow omg it was epic believe me
Thankyou D-Low for react from Indonesia
If d-low is impressed, everyone is.
Commenting again every day until you react to waali hard control
React to Antilt vs Max next. You won't believe how good they both are.
Rafly🔥🔥🔥
Mantap boss respect buat anda boss 🙏🙏
You should definitely react to Leevy vs. Remix
Hi D low i am from indonesia
finally you see one of my idols after you saved rafly
D-Low! Please React to the Improver Shoutout. It's oe of my favorite examples of Beat Box ever
Nice bro✌️
04:50 с этого времени начинается рай для ушей
Hey Dan, just a quick idea: I think if you did these reactions on stream it would be beneficial for your streaming career and CZcams as you get content for both platforms, something to consider maybe :)
Streams get much fewer views, and they are long so less people watch them afterwards.
@@hexiy_dev that can be done, that will make 2 separate videos
@@aptrevixle269 people want to ask dlow questions, stream is fantastic for that. streaming makes much more money to if people are subbing and stuff
He is pretty big on the original videos getting the necessary views and attention. A livestream isn't something people would just leave to go check out the video. Not saying that's his ideology, ofc :p
@@rubikquitous8482 yeah that's righ,t but I would personally like him to just analyse
More content reactions beatbox dlow 👌
More Beatbox Videos and Tutorial please
Yaahh im subscriber form Indonesia,,,,D-LOWWWWW
Next antlit vs rafly
This guy could win world beatbox championship by originality
Крутяк))
Kuyang
Dlow the best
D-low the Acer pred Gang Hell ya.
Antilt vs max international throwdown semi final is one of the best battle i highly recommend on watching it
you should react to rafly vs antilt 💪🏻 it’s a banger as well!
I liked remix vs sonus, I hope d-low will react to it soon
Please react to Max vs Antilt international throwdown 2021, same tournament, probably the best battle
U should react to max vs antilt battle was nuts
YEAHH BRO
Inferno 2nd round was jus too nasty🤯