Can you Run Fast with BAD FORM?

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  • čas přidán 18. 03. 2023
  • In this video we take a look at some athlete's who had incredible natural talent and examine cases where athlete's didn't need proper form to run fast as well as athlete's who reached the top once they fixed their form.
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    Music: HORUSIII x HICAP We Do It No
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Komentáře • 93

  • @quadecooper8508
    @quadecooper8508 Před rokem +376

    Bracey running 10.19 a couple of weeks after starting sprinting is mind blowing

    • @ChichkoParichko
      @ChichkoParichko Před rokem +35

      Raw talent

    • @certifiedchaos4643
      @certifiedchaos4643 Před rokem +67

      His natural running form is insane. His front side mechanics are phenomenal

    • @Notorious-AP
      @Notorious-AP Před rokem +53

      But he was playing football so he already had an athletic background

    • @justifiedluffy6635
      @justifiedluffy6635 Před rokem +7

      @@Notorious-AP yeah still crazy talent though

    • @dragorn3212
      @dragorn3212 Před rokem +6

      So he reached .25 seconds of his PB in only a few weeks? Yeah not buying that. How is it that sprinters continue to improve for years and he reached his max "immediately." Give me a break he obviously had a lot of experience building speed and sprinting before that

  • @spudmurphy278
    @spudmurphy278 Před rokem +148

    Trayvon Bromell is another sprinter who had insane natural talent

    • @douglaslegvold9215
      @douglaslegvold9215 Před rokem +4

      Had??? He is still running I think

    • @certifiedchaos4643
      @certifiedchaos4643 Před rokem +22

      @@douglaslegvold9215 for a junior athlete he was insanely fast. First high school kid to break 10 sec

    • @mcmerry2846
      @mcmerry2846 Před 11 měsíci

      He is also short

  • @turkishdelight6032
    @turkishdelight6032 Před rokem +68

    I’m going to spend the first half hour of my workouts doing sprint drills now. I just turned 30 and have been doing heavy weight training and bodybuilding for years. I’ve become bulky and slow, and I miss being athletic

    • @CaneSugarCane
      @CaneSugarCane Před rokem +2

      Time to Switch to rings 🎉

    • @leroy5272
      @leroy5272 Před rokem

      look up just jumari

    • @justgames_notalk
      @justgames_notalk Před rokem +1

      You can do both. Speed drills 3 times a week

    • @turkishdelight6032
      @turkishdelight6032 Před rokem

      @@justgames_notalk for how long/per session?

    • @justgames_notalk
      @justgames_notalk Před rokem

      @@turkishdelight6032 just a few different exercises each work out. 20-30 mins. I prefer to lift first and then go in to the sprint drills. As I get fatigued and sweaty with them. But either way round works.

  • @DubYuhGChoppa
    @DubYuhGChoppa Před rokem +44

    that visual at 7:07 really helped me realize how terrible my own running form is, thank you for including it

  • @Leonidas-eu9bb
    @Leonidas-eu9bb Před rokem +24

    great content!
    Bolt was superfast without good technique.
    Then he improved his technique (posture, strength) and became the GOAT.
    So technique matters at least a bit.

    • @jakemccoy
      @jakemccoy Před rokem +6

      It does not really help athletes to use extreme examples like Usain Bolt. People like him are anomalies. Everything about them is different. You say Bolt was "superfast without good technique". It's more like, with bad technique, Bolt was faster than anybody you have ever seen in real life anywhere on Earth. It would be better for people to learn from the short muscular dude in the video, because he is closer to what a regular gifted sprinter is.

  • @LeeMack09
    @LeeMack09 Před rokem +30

    Degrasse apparently ran that 10.9 in baskeball shorts and borrowed spikes as well

    • @TheoOJamaloO1
      @TheoOJamaloO1 Před rokem

      thought he had Jordans on

    • @jakemccoy
      @jakemccoy Před rokem +1

      Stories like this are common for gifted athletes. Run what you brung.

  • @khumokwezimashapa2245
    @khumokwezimashapa2245 Před rokem +22

    I believe you can run fast with bad form. This too me indicates that someone has good sprinting genetics

  • @adraino7345
    @adraino7345 Před rokem +2

    Good form is how you build fundamentals but sometimes great athletes just have a form that works perfectly for them but would look and be inefficient for others. But at the average/casual level still focus on form a bit.

  • @coachwilson8687
    @coachwilson8687 Před rokem +1

    Nice job buddy. Never heard of that Mancini guy, that was cool to see. It’s an interesting topic because you need good form to have more speed, but you also need more speed to work with in order to have better form. It is also highly individual. Good point about high knees too - Coleman and MJ and SAFP don’t have very high knee drive yet have excellent speed.

  • @iams.a.w.2252
    @iams.a.w.2252 Před rokem +12

    I have spent my entire life training for one purpose: to achieve perfect sprinting form. I have devoted countless hours to running, studying the biomechanics of the human body, and pushing myself to the brink of exhaustion in pursuit of this goal. And yet, despite all of my efforts, I have never been able to attain the flawless form that I so desperately seek.
    At times, I wonder if I am simply not meant to achieve this level of perfection. Perhaps there is some fundamental flaw in my physiology that prevents me from ever reaching my full potential. Or maybe my training methods are misguided, and I am simply repeating the same mistakes over and over again.

    • @InsomniacStudio911
      @InsomniacStudio911 Před rokem

      DON’T GIVE UP !

    • @immygrxne9884
      @immygrxne9884 Před rokem

      Wow, it sounds like you've dedicated a lot of time and effort to perfecting your sprinting form. It takes a lot of courage and determination to pursue a goal so relentlessly, and I commend you for that. Don't be too hard on yourself if you haven't achieved the level of perfection you desire just yet. Remember, progress is a journey, not a destination.
      Perhaps it would be helpful to seek feedback from others, such as a coach or trainer, who can provide an objective perspective and offer suggestions for improvement. It's also important to take care of yourself both physically and mentally, and to avoid pushing yourself too hard to the point of exhaustion or injury. Keep up the hard work and stay focused on your goals, but also remember to celebrate your successes along the way. Best of luck in your journey towards perfecting your sprinting form!

    • @youngbreadwinner2780
      @youngbreadwinner2780 Před rokem

      😂😂😂

    • @sileze5438
      @sileze5438 Před rokem +1

      sound more like an english teacher than an athlete tbh

    • @EugeniaLoli
      @EugeniaLoli Před rokem

      @@sileze5438 In Greece, teachers make more money than most track and field athletes. And since they're government employees, they can't be fired (there's a law about the job permanence of government employees). It's a highly desirable job, and not easy to pass the exams to get to university (which is free, but difficult to get to). So, nothing wrong with being a teacher in some parts of the world.

  • @gideonabraham586
    @gideonabraham586 Před rokem +2

    Amazing video man. God bless you.

  • @surindersingh7744
    @surindersingh7744 Před rokem

    Thanks a lot . this is actually very helpul

  • @rev68
    @rev68 Před rokem +3

    Julien Alfred is very similar to Pascal Mancini in that their massive quads give them a very unconventional look in their running style, but Alfred's results are undeniable.

  • @judsdragon
    @judsdragon Před rokem

    good breakdown vid cheers for this

  • @jakemccoy
    @jakemccoy Před rokem +8

    You can be faster by improving form, but you cannot be *FAAAST* without genetics. Sprinting is the easiest athletic activity to figure out if you are out there wasting your time or not. I have seen regular jumpers improve their hops significantly via working out. I have never seen a slow dude become a 10.5 guy by working out, improving form, etc.

  • @MR.CLEAN777
    @MR.CLEAN777 Před rokem +5

    THIS WAS REALLY CONFUSING GREAT VIDEO PER USUAL!!!!

  • @jakemccoy
    @jakemccoy Před rokem +4

    Good stuff, but there are lots of people who have beautiful textbook form but are still slow. You are showing the extreme examples of improvement via form.

  • @jyotibiswas5493
    @jyotibiswas5493 Před rokem +5

    As a man who has seen someone running 19.32 with the running form of a duck, I can confirm you can run fast even with a bad form

    • @HulaLogic
      @HulaLogic Před rokem

      Who was that. your not on about noah lyes are you

    • @jakemccoy
      @jakemccoy Před rokem +7

      Also, the concept of bad form is misleading. Everybody has different muscle insertions, bone structure, birth defects, injuries, imbalances, etc. For example, Bolt has scoliosis. A track coach forcing everybody into one specific form would not be beneficial to some athletes.

    • @jakemccoy
      @jakemccoy Před rokem +4

      19.32 Michael Johnson. His form was perfect for him.

  • @ronnieyoung2075
    @ronnieyoung2075 Před rokem +11

    Abby Steiner has the weirdest mechanics I’ve seen but she has wicked speed

  • @Thelion66
    @Thelion66 Před rokem +2

    20 years old , 11.50 with 4 month of training i still have a lot to work on my technique,what do you think guys

  • @Christian-se5si
    @Christian-se5si Před 23 dny

    If you are running a certain speed it’s always because of something physically about your as well as what your body does mechanically. Even if it looks ugly, someone fast is running fast for a reason, theyre always doing something better combined with their raw physical ability

  • @andriselmani4111
    @andriselmani4111 Před rokem

    Hello. Your videos are so beautiful. All these sprinters are inside a good technique . Are little different from each other but all are so beautiful to see when runnning on the races. Thank you.

  • @flynnff1236
    @flynnff1236 Před rokem +2

    Damn, me running 11.35 at 17yo when I’m told I have exceptional form makes me realise how I have no natural talent whatsoever compared to these guys😭

    • @kyle1493
      @kyle1493 Před rokem +2

      U fast asf tho

    • @mcmerry2846
      @mcmerry2846 Před 11 měsíci

      I had a normal technique and ran 11.50 at 17 at 5'6" without much training on the field, I was playing basketball having 45 inches vertical, but again I never dedicated to train or to the sport. Never found the incentive especially being born in a country with literally 0 investment in sports

  • @sniperx9
    @sniperx9 Před rokem +1

    Funny seeing a young Degrasse there

  • @apollo7147
    @apollo7147 Před rokem

    i think a good example of this would be the 400m freshman, Quincy Wilson

  • @iaincrawford6083
    @iaincrawford6083 Před rokem

    They definitely can! Rosie Ruiz won the 1980 Boston Marathon despite terrible technique.

  • @slowmoe1964
    @slowmoe1964 Před rokem +1

    Valery Borzoff had great form

  • @certifiedchaos4643
    @certifiedchaos4643 Před rokem +4

    Mboma Veronica Campbell brown michael Johnson Christophe Lemaitre Adam Gemili all had unusual running styles but it seemed to work

    • @ronnieyoung2075
      @ronnieyoung2075 Před rokem

      Don’t forget Abby Steiner.

    • @certifiedchaos4643
      @certifiedchaos4643 Před rokem +1

      @@ronnieyoung2075 her legs are fine it’s that arm swing same thing with degrasse. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ChichkoParichko
    @ChichkoParichko Před rokem +7

    When h have the raw power and fast twitch muscles you can

  • @ThaSpeedsterZ
    @ThaSpeedsterZ Před rokem +1

    Usain Bolt: "Yes" 🤣

  • @Oeyoeyoo
    @Oeyoeyoo Před rokem +3

    I new a kid my jr year he was a fr... worst form I've ever seen in any runner... the kid flewwwwwww. It didn't make sence... he dropped the baton in a huge meet and quit

  • @o_CwNOOB_o
    @o_CwNOOB_o Před rokem

    bro nature talent is just so op istg

  • @SilencedButNotForgotten

    TLTR: Yes. It's just less efficient.

  • @stonew1927
    @stonew1927 Před rokem +1

    Jacobs seems to have disappeared lately. Wonder what's going on with him?

  • @morwickchesterham3875
    @morwickchesterham3875 Před rokem +1

    steven seagal has the best running form

  • @THEKOBE7612
    @THEKOBE7612 Před rokem

    Frankie Fredricks
    Linford Christie

  • @Angel-dm7lt
    @Angel-dm7lt Před rokem

    Stories like degrasse and the others just make me wonder: what else is out there that we don't know about?

  • @shams6598
    @shams6598 Před rokem +4

    You can be fast it depends with your strength,l think your strength matters

    • @Lortagreb
      @Lortagreb Před rokem +2

      Actually strength doesnt matter as much as your bones. I saw a running competition between a skeleton and a pile of deboned flesh, guess who won? It was the plant that won.

    • @thenorseprodigy7466
      @thenorseprodigy7466 Před rokem +3

      If strength matters the most then bodybuilders should win every 100m

    • @jakemccoy
      @jakemccoy Před rokem +4

      Guys who think it is about strength have a look of disbelief when they come across some skinny black dude wearing jeans and faster than everybody. You can see them rethinking the meaning of life in real time.

  • @slowmoe1964
    @slowmoe1964 Před rokem

    Is it just me or did Jacobs' form didn't change at all

  • @BigLadGreen
    @BigLadGreen Před rokem +1

    I think Jacobs jumpped on the hot sauce rather that improve his technique which made such a drastic difference.

  • @2DarkHorizon
    @2DarkHorizon Před rokem +2

    Sprinting does require skill. But in reality sprinting is mostly brute strength.

  • @noahgrady7872
    @noahgrady7872 Před rokem +1

    Genetics are so unfair

    • @SamKumar-ny4go
      @SamKumar-ny4go Před 6 měsíci +1

      This media hide the reality of athletes ,,, because this video brainwash of genetics
      Actually genes not come from naturally,,, whenever genes are process on nutrition,,fitness,, activity,, nourishment,,care ,,hardwork ,, consistency,,right direction then genes becomes better
      Genes is just part ,,but excuses of being only genes is not good idea

  • @TheHuskyK9
    @TheHuskyK9 Před rokem +7

    Mancini would've ran a lot faster if he learned how to run relaxed. Dude is way too tense, putting too much effort on other body parts than his legs

  • @marcomoon6062
    @marcomoon6062 Před rokem +1

    You can't run fast with bad form. Form starts with the legs. All fast sprinters at all ages have similar timing in their leg cycles. If you're fast and you look sloppy at the bare minimum your legs have good enough form. The reason you're not fast is because of your form.

    • @billybobby9417
      @billybobby9417 Před rokem +1

      unless you're tyreek hill

    • @ugoeze7360
      @ugoeze7360 Před rokem

      Abby Steiner begs to differ.

    • @jakemccoy
      @jakemccoy Před rokem +5

      It's 99% genetics and 1% form. Zion Williamson has absolute horrible form for jumping (as evidenced by him always getting hurt). But he can jump out of the gym because his genetics are allowing him to jump higher than what his body can safely handle.

    • @Nubako463
      @Nubako463 Před rokem

      @@jakemccoy His body can’t handle because he pushing almost 300 pounds not because of his form

    • @utryping
      @utryping Před rokem +2

      ​@@jakemccoy You can't use injury as evidence of form quality. If I punch a rock really hard I will break something in my hand. I doubt my form would have any bearing on this. Zion jumps high because he jumps how you're supposed to jump and he has access to a lot of power. He gets injured because basketball was not a selection pressure when we were evolving.