The Space Border That Could Seal Us on Earth
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bro, you got a lot of facts wrong here. The 12000 satelites are for Starlink and has been approved. And NASA is trying to regulate not encourage space business.
@@MikeMessiah Johnny ain't got time for basic research, all his videos are like this 🗑🔥🗑🔥🗑
fool.. 12000 sats is business and also militarily
@@MikeMessiah I also believe all if not most of the starlink satellites are able to perform a Deorbit burn when they eventually expire along with the second stage of the falcon9. Wonder why he didn’t mention that?
Johny you need to do a much better reseachs on this subject.
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Or space salvge. How much of what makes a satellite magnetic?
LMAO
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So you're saying there will be no Space in S P A C E?
Bruh
😂😂😂
woah! dude...
yep
@@asr4327 have you taken any sponsorship
I swear it’s like people watched Wall-E and didn’t take anything away from it.
Man Wall-E is now looking like its going to be real life
Gen X'ers watching Wall-E: "ha ha that was good fun... anyways..."
Kids in 2200 : Wall-E is so relatable
Orbits have a habit of decaying hence all these bits of junk will burn up when that happens.
Or some people watched it and were really into the idea of cannibalism through cupcakes and milkshakes.
As an engineer working in the space industry, I can assure you there are a lot of efforts going into mitigating this issue, all the way starting from planning the mission (all satellites going into LEO have to de-orbit in 25 years) up to AI being developed for autonomus collision avoidance (which spaceX’s starlink is currently doing, for example - but not only that, as there are private companies providing this as a service to satellite operators). Space is really hard, and your videos are proving that - we need a lot of bright engineers to work in this field.
Yeah, I picked up on that too. The issue is certainly not being ignored.
Well, sign me up. I'm ready to work in the space industry
Space is Fake man... the Firmament is the "border" and everything you have worked towards is a lie... you will never get beyond LEO.... ever
We need a trash truck !! Lol
O fucking k . BIG guy .
*After 50 years*
Johnny's new video: How I took a picture of the Space Junk
This I what people thought in 1990 that they will have flying cars till 2021
lol, It ain’t that hard to find spacejunk everywhere already. Spent rockets boosters and dead satellites are everywhere already and I found them regularly when looking thru my 6 inch scope.
@@ayushxd5799 we have flying cars in 2021.
More like 10 years
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Hang on.......if Amazon move their HQ to space, they could really cut their corporation tax bill! ;-0
I disagree because environmentalism is very present in the social zeitgeist and dangerous debris can cause these tech billionaires a shit ton of money in the present which I imagine would motivate them to do something. And lastly, this has been a problem of Space Agencies for a while, so I assume it'll become a problems to solve soonish
I guess amazon being registered in the US so that their space HQ would be considered american soil, just like with ships in the ocean.
😂
Kki
Along w/ a bunch of Executives as well. :)
Impressive that you talked about Kessler Syndrome for almost 20 min without once mentioning it's name.
yup its one line definition is the entire explaination of this video.
Also, he implies there's no tracking or coordination done at all, which is completely untrue. Collision avoidance is generally coordinated by the US military.
Maybe because nobody cares about the name of the random dude who tried to get credit for a basic common sense theory and exponent calculation.
I was waiting for the name the whole time
I've never heard of this name, and I believe Johnny too. I learned a new thing, thank you :)
I love how the vibe of this channel is on the edge of not getting too far as a conspiracy but staying right in with the facts and apprehensions
Imagine investing Billions of dollars to launch a rocket only for it to be completely destroyed by a single bolt
Honestly sounds like relationships lmao
You don't need a bolt, a small mica of few millimeters is good enough.
i mean, this is a vastly oversimplified explanation of the vast complexity in rocket science (which is comprised of various disciplines and trades including things like rocket plumbing), but youtube comment sections are for memes and morons instead of any nuance
don't take my comment as an endorsement of billionaires owning space, i just hate bad faith arguments
Velocity.
Imagine spending billion dollars to complete a 10 minute flight with 4 minute of Zero G
1:05 Not to scale. The inner line is closer to 1000 km and the outer is closer to 6000 km. I wish all space videos were done to true scale. It would change our perspective on the vastness of space.
The radius of earth is 6371 km so imo I think they have already exaggerated the 1000km line
Yeah coming from the Map Guy I expected something else
To be honest, on true scale you wouldn’t see any satellite... it is however a misrepresentation
Oh WTF - it's just flat ...
@@mark4motion68 one can zoom in and show less curvature. Let the truth be represented truly. Sometimes, it’s simple, sometimes complicated.
"You can't rely on private companies to regulate themselves for the good of everyone." That's the most accurate statement I've heard in a long time.
Can't rely on governments either, even more so.
I like your visual style! Maybe you could make a tutorial on your graphic, not only on geo layers. Thanx for your stuff!!
just wanna put this out there:
Gravity's movie physics are from another universe and not in a good way..
Besides that, you got some of your facts wrong/missed important details:
The 12k satelites that elon got approval for are meant for starlink. These satelites are in such a low orbit that they will self-deorbit when are no longer active, they are intentionally made this way to avert this nightmare scenario.
Although there are no direct rules for launching sats, nasa still has to give approval to US companies for them to be able to send a sat up in orbit, so it is regulated to some degree.
This video was badly researched.
He explained about NASA just encouraging the private companies rather than regulating them. Which is just ridiculous.
Seems that he missed some points. Hopefully he will come back see the comments and pin this one.
A zoom call with Scott Manly or Tim Dodd would have come a long way in terms of facts
@@dahasolomon7314 thanks I was facepalming the whole video !
Johnny, PLEASE revisit this video ASAP and do some more research! Love the work.
This video was JUST posted..??
@@absolutelybagel2218 lol
_I love how your channel will frequently go into depth about a topic but never even hazard a guess about solutions._
The aliens have sent their giant saucers back to their home, to avoid this collision accidents. We watched them go, without realizing what happened.
"And guess who's to blame. That's right, the British Empire"
the british empire sounds like old Zuko in LoK talking about all the times he tried to kill Aang when he was a bad guy.
Britain ? Who?
Those english men
@@KSM_bruh *British
@Moe Lester Google Translate is weird
2040: Sorry sir, you need to pay 5% tax for your journey to space.
Billionaires: I think I will not
So a departure from your nation tax?
@@SMunro VAT (Value Added Tax)
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5% ain't shit. if people want to go to space for recreation they should be paying 200% tax with the funds used to launch 2 more space ships for scientific or exploration purposes
honestly, i was surprised at how little satellites there were
Thank you Harris for your amazing info videos. It is definitely enlightening!
Can you cover a video on COP 26, IPCC reports, UNFCCC, and climate agreements from previous decades which most nations failed to meet. I believe you will find most formidable issues of this century to learn and share. Thanks again
3:05 Watching Scott Manley on youtube, I would say they probably weren't "terribly made", they blew up because space travel is complicated and every failure usually led to a new discovery on how to make the next spacecraft better. Trial and error
Its rocket science after all
...so what you're saying is that they were terribly made.
@@fapuloes because building rockets is harder than people think
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The only thing terribly made in this video is ...the video itself. It is poorly researched. How do you do a video on the Kessler Syndrome and then never actually say the words Kessler Syndrome?
I admire Johnnys work, and I love his content! However, as a space enthusiast I can tell that a lot of details have been rushed in this video, leading many new space interested people to believe, that no one is taking action against the Kessler syndrome.
This is not true though...
I got that vibe too. The editing even was just off slightly in a way. Idk
10:15 from his sentence construction, he seems to suggest that NASA is directly funding Spacex's Starlink smh
edited: to be clear, i find this statement misleading. while it's true that SpaceX is getting some funding from NASA (mostly rocket development), Starlink is entirely an independent SpaceX endeavor.
@@mjjjuly NASA already doesn't have enough budget for the moon so imagine them funding Starlink lmao
I agree 100%
What are the action against it? I only know that a new satellite must be registered somewhere but that’s all.
Love your work! Ever consider doing a deep dive Into the following subjects; Central Banking System, The Vatican, Federal Reserve, and Freemasons?
This guy gets it
That nightmare scenario sounds like a great concept for a book, game, or movie.
The movie Gravity was excellent
I was hoping that Johnny would actually mention the term "Kessler Syndrome"
yep
i already hope Johnny will mention that term
but no
I think that would be worth a whole separate video honestly, just from looking at the Wikipedia
I just assumed I had missed him saying it. Why avoid mentioning the name of the topic he just researched, filmed and released? He also made it seem as though nearly no steps are being taken to help avoid and no plans to mitigate the potential problem. If felt weird, but I think I kind of get why. This felt like a half step, maybe it was to catch the wave of news and discussion following the recent low earth "orbits" by some rich dudes.
wait what’s kessler syndrome
@@notatrick88 It's basically what he described in the video. That some space debris collides with an orbiting object, creating more debris in the process that can hit more things. Cascading to the point where there's so much random debris, that any attempt into orbit, or beyond, could be destroyed and only add to the problem. Forcing us to not be able to make it up into spade until most of it burns up in our atmosphere. But many scientists working on space programs are aware of the potential and steps are being taken. So I'd say it's more cause for caution than alarm right now.
Missed mentioning many of the new generation satellites have thrusters to avoid collisions like 2009.
Plus an end of life plan, savely de-orbiting satalite.
True, but KSAT doesn’t see small debris. One rouge particle could end a single commercial satellite. It’s only the satellite to satellite collision that you’re getting a chance to avoid.
@@SGAFirefly True, but Johnny Harris main focus was satellite to satellite collision, but he didn't inform viewers that collision avoidens is being implemented (without it being mandatory). Plus he showed wat a particle would do to a solar panel and didn't dive into the topic that there are millions of particles in orbit, and that the chance to get hit with particles increases dramatically with ever x amount of satallites.
Also missed mentioning how low earth orbit is no more limited by satellites than the earth ground is limited by the 1.42 billion cars on its surface.
@@fabioj5896 wasn't that the point? Cars have traffic laws, stop signs, roundabouts, stop lights, city cops, county cops, state cops, federal cops, park rangers, speed bumps, rules of the road, etc etc.
I just love that you use kilometers as a measurement! Awesome video!
Towards the end I was about to cry... I could feel the emotional connection
Make a video about the Kessler effect, without mentioning the Kessler effect...
Yes
Precisely my goal!
@@johnnyharris That's weird.
But weirder not to tell that low earth orbit used by SpaceX Starlink cleans itself fast. Satellite is orbiting there for 5 year until it will eventually burn. And that is the reason why the constellation was permitted on the first place.
Bezos and Branson haven't even gone orbit.
And of course not mentioning that reusable rockets won't spill orbit with detached stages and trash. Who needs this anyway...
@@johnnyharris Yes but that makes it sound like this is all your idea and work, when all your doing is a bad job of characterizing the work done by others. That’s not making it accessible, that’s ego.
@Apexseals Well i dont see any problem in that. Maybe he never watch planetes.
I’ve seen a lot of comments about there being mischaracterizations and inaccuracies in this video. I’m interested in correcting them in my mind and the minds of my viewers. So please below this comment list anything that was wrong or unfairly characterized. I do my best to get it right!!
Hey johnny
Make a redo of your Davos propaganda vid too while you're at it :)
Attention... that this information is not completely correct... not all Satellites walk at this speed... and a good part of them follow the speed of the planet, being fixed to regions or countries. For example, TV and Telecommunications satellites and more.
It is utterly important keep not the lower earth orbit clean, but geostationary, it is 30k kilometers high, and it is the most precious. Satellites there orbit with the rate of earths spin, so satellite stays over single point, always. And because of extreme altitude, trash there can not deorbit with time. Maybe several millions years for such orbits to decay.
You didn't even mention how atmospheric drag takes most of the space debris down over time. This video is very alarmist, not well researched, and should be removed.
I was at a science convention thingy when I was younger and they covered this exact thing except they presented an idea that was basically a big net to collect all the debris and other sorts of objects in the way. it was quite interesting but that was a while ago, I'm not too sure that idea could hold up with the amount of space junk in orbit right now.
Just a minor correction, but geostationary earth orbit (GEO, way above low earth orbit) is actually highly regulated, with disputes being settled by the ITU branch of the UN. Basically, operators can put a request for a 'slot' to put their satellite in and satellites must have to capability to put themselves into a disposal orbit at the end of life. These regulations basically ensure that satellites don't interfere or collide with each other. Perhaps similar concepts could be applied to low earth orbit, where a limited number of slots exist at certain orbital altitudes and inclinations.
I sincerely hope, that other videos of yours with concepts that are less known to me are not as inaccurate as this one. I love your work and I've watched a ton of it. I also thought I had learned a lot from them. This video provides me with a scary prospective - much might have been very shallowly researched. With regards to this video, I agree with your hope for more collaboration and thoughtful, international efforts to get us out there sustainably. I am 100% on board with this. I just hope you can take another look at the topic of satellites, orbits, orbital decay, economics with regards to lifting mass from surface into orbit and into deep space and I hope you'll create another video (or more) with your findings. My key concerns with this video is: 1.) The thousands of satellites that are planned for constellations by SpaceX and others are in really low orbits which decay within months. This is by design - there is no debris issue with regards to these satellites. 2.) It is in my opinion somewhat uninformed to say those satellites aren't subject to governance and that the decades old space laws have never considered them. Have you looked into what is required by US regulations alone to be allowed to launch and operate these satellites? 3.) I cannot follow your reasoning why the new breed of commercial launch vehicles and their operators (SpaceX, ULA, Rocket Lab, ...) are 'bad' simply because they lift mass and objects into space. That is by definition what you want us to remain being able to do. Personally I think it's pretty clever from NASA to move into commercialization of access to Space as this will lead to the wide availability that is necessary to get people to live on the Moon and other Planets. Universities have access to science and scientific opportunities never seen before, because of the lowered price per kg of cargo to space. The thing feels a bit like a hit piece on Musk and Branson even though they are not the ones creating the debris. In fact the whole thing with Branson's and Bezos' space tourism is, while arguably bad in other ways - not connected to space debris at all. Why are they in this piece at all?
This
My thoughts exactly too. A lot of missed and misrepresentation in this video. The intent was in the right place, but the data presented poorly.
Bro Bezos just said we need to move pollution into space. Eff off
It's kinda a theme with the channel I've found it's a lot of presenting ideas against the norm and how everything is kinda an elaborate scam
@@samakisan I would also welcome a critical video on space tourism and other topics. Topics where criticism towards the Billionaires is well placed. But here it’s just a mix of things that are loosely related at the very best.
“It’s a place where earths gravity can kind of pull you down” Actually gravity almost the same strength, 90% of sea level. You have to be traveling more than 17,000 mph to actually get to orbit. It’s not just a zone you get to that has weak gravity and then boom orbit
It's not so much that there's a lack of gravity, but rather a lack of thick enough atmosphere to prevent orbits. Sure, LEO still has atmospheric drag (ISS has to boost itself every now and then), yet it acts very minimally over long time periods.
@@mrbyzantine0528 this!!! Anywhere lower and you would have to keep adding energy to keep the satellite in orbit.
It’s practically stuff with velocity less than earth’s escape velocity
Johnny has been pumping out the videos recently, each as good as the last. Love to see the hard work he's putting in. Keep it up man!
This one was kinda trash
Each to their own - I enjoyed it
Wat sux is this is the 3rd topic he touches on that im familiar with where he is blatantly wrong on. Now im wondering if his other videos about topics i know nothing about are also wrong.
Johnny has been pumping em out
If you think this is good then I have a bridge to sell you
Man ..where have you been all this years ..your videos are very beneficial
Satellites being made now are made to completely disintegrate in the atmosphere in a controlled way (including SpaceX, since the last thing Elon Musk wants is to not be able to go to Mars)
Also PBS Space Time's yt channel has a great video about space debris where they go into the math of the chain reaction
It's not the panic inducing nightmare this guy makes it out to be. And he never once says the term Kessler Syndrome. It makes me wonder how much research did he put into this video. It's almost like he saw a headline and decided it was a bad thing and needed to tell everyone.
How would they disintegrate once in space?
@@kareemal-saghir4721 they deorbit, enter the atmosphere at almost Mach 26 and burn up just like a meteor
@@kareemal-saghir4721 using their thrusters to slow themselves down to burn up in the atmosphere. That's a reason why Elon Musk chose that low orbit so this can be done easily.
@@xliquidflames These hive mind people tend to hate things when they the word billionaire is on it.
Billionaires put rockets on the sky an no one bats an eye, but put them inside the rocket and everyone loses their minds.
As someone who does a lot of research on space exploration and industries, there is so many inaccuracies in this video that it makes me a lot less trusting of the information on all the other videos with subjects that I'm very much less familiar.
I agree with this 100%. It feels like this one video ruins all other videos on his channel, as this is a topic im very familiar with.. yet it turned out to be inaccurate at best and fear mongering for youtube cash at worst.
I find that is always the case when a journalist speaks on a topic I have expertise on. Being a good communicator doesn't mean that you are an expert.
I 100% agree. Having been studying this topic for years, i found there was quite a bit of inaccuracies when it came to this video. Just the fact that Virgin Galactic was shown (even though they never plan on going orbital) made me cringe a bit. This also made me question many if the other videos he's posted I've been telling people as fact. It simply sounds like he looked up what the fear mongering articles have said and non of the other legitimate sources.
Watch this video
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Ever since I watched this video and read Johnny's response my trust regarding the objectivity and the information in his videos immediately plummeted. I still watch because of great editing but I don't trust 100 percent what he says anymore
What exactly did he get wrong? Serious question, idk much about space travel
One of the best youtube channels I came across for insightful journalism
Thanks for covering this.
"You can't rely on private companies to regulate themselves for the good of everyone." That's the most accurate statement I've heard in a long time haha
You can't rely on anyone, to be honest. Not like governments have a good track record on ensuring screw ups don't happen.
I mean they kind of already are. Both Blue Origin and SpaceX are working towards fully reusable rockets that don't leave junk in space. Eventually the issue will start bottlenecking their operations and they are more than likely going to have to address it for the sake of profit.
so communism?
@@junn805 Nope, just capitalism, but with fair regulations. Like always, "free market" and private regulating itself ad eternum is a myth.
@@oatlord Exactly...Look what Afghanistan turned out after Biden promised such humiliating retreat would never happen.
I partially agree, but there are a lot of misunderstood or misinterpreted parts.
Like what
@@narsimhas1360 check the top comments I can’t recall what was said.
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God damn I always forget how good you are at telling stories. The visuals are next level.
From Quora ->
Debris left in orbits below 600 km normally fall back to Earth within several years.
At altitudes of 800 km, the time for orbital decay is often measured in centuries.
Above 1,000 km, orbital debris will normally continue circling the Earth for a thousand years or more.
I think you're at a size now where you could easily get some research help and also start including interviews with experts to help your research so you don't miss important facts :)
Yeah, this was shoddy journalism
He is the "expert in curated research" 😀
@@AshishRaiprofile I'm not a journalist but well I do have both a degree in physics and in cultural studies. It just doesn't matter for the purpose of my comment. But even without any uni qualifications one can learn how to research a topic properly and tell people when they haven't done their due diligence.
Love this ain’t even criticism it’s just constructive :)
I agree. His COVID lab leak video was missing massive amounts of facts that have been out for a year.
No wonder there's less UFO sightings and obductions. 😂
@ׁ aliens are real.
@ׁ I mean, you seem to be a ghost
@@dailydoseofblues7708 Prove it.
statistically the odds are in favor of the existence of extraterrestrial life, given how massive space is
@@isaacwright4910 ahh yes someone actually using their freaking brain
You are doing great work Johny.
Yay!! Awesome video (as always)
Excited!! We're closer to be 2 M subscribers. 🙆🎉💯
"But as we all know, you can't rely on private companies to regulate themselves for the good of everyone."
But Johnny, I thought we were doing stakeholder capitalism now...
LoL 😂😂😂
I need some space now.
I reckon the McDonalds thing broke him lol
Actually, there are now companies trying to figure out how to help clean out low earth orbit... But funding for them isn't enough.
Unless the chain reaction happens, they will be ignored.
@@kaitlyn__L mcdonalds out here radicalizing people against capitalism. lets go
Boy nothing like a Johnny Harris video to make me completely terrified of a problem I didn't know I needed to be terrified about.
You don't need to be terrified.
There is literally nothing to fear with this, this video was very poorly researched
I'm getting addicted to your videos, they're marvelous and informative! I was wondering if you could make a video on earth's magnetic field reversal
Whilst this creator has plenty of informative videos, this is honestly one of his least informative ones. He makes plenty of statements that have no basis. To which I would suggest actually looking into if you’re actually interested in learning about this topic.
@@Semi_Protagonist I didn't find anything related to this topic on the internet, I only found about the earth's magnetic poles reseversal, which isn't the same thing and doesn't make any sense to me
@@The_Study_Bug Could you tell me which videos are you referring to?
Thank you for throwing more light on this
01:34 Most satellite phones currently use geostationary satellites in a precise high orbit at 22,300 miles that is strictly controlled.
They very definitely aren’t remotely ‘LEO’ which is 1,200 miles and lower.
Globalstar and Iridium have more than 100 satellites in LEO providing phone service. The low latency and lower launch cost make LEO the more attractive approach going forward. The question is whether such satellites will be put in very low orbit, where they will deorbit on their own in less than a decade (good) but need frequent replacement (less attractive to the companies putting them up) or whether they'll go on the high side of LEO where it will take decades for their orbits to decay, because it extends the useful life of the equipment (and really contributes to this problem.)
Hes not wrong though, I didn't hear him say anything that contradicts reality.
In this use, geostationary satellites have big advantages and disadvantages compared LEO satellites, there are plenty of each. It's not like he said *all* of them use LEO satellites.
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@@CraigButz
Globalstar have 24 satellites
Iridium have 66
So not your ‘more than 100’ then.
Globalstar is only usable near a ground station, so half the planet can’t use it.
@@mykeh3155 he stated that commercial companies do not care about the space trash problem at all. That is factually not true.
Starlink is at the low side of LEO for precisely that reason, and they are going even lower. (SpaceX obviously cares, because they are not are not just launchers, but also operate a massive sat constellation)
WALL.E showed this scenario in a scene 13 years ago. Mad prediction 😂
Nah this has been a hypothesis for decades now. It was first created by Donald Kessler in the 70s.
@@brianisme6498 WALL.E made it iconic 😂
@@sukhvirnijjar5757 not really, but you can believe that if you wish.
Wait untill billionaires and millionaires start being immortal.Watch Elysium
SPACE WAS ALWAYS ABOUT COMPETITION AND NEVER ABOUT COOPERATION.
Love your stuff man, thanks
Humans: Pollute earth and make it inhabitable.
Also Humans: Why not pollute space too?
As if Earth is not enough.
We aren’t polluting it with anything harmful in the United States but China is
@@praiseyahwehandyeshua6543
Your average black religious weirdo
I am the chosen people of Yahweh oooooh praise me
space is fucking huge. we can pollute it as much as we want. all we need is some space without junk to travel through for missions
@@praiseyahwehandyeshua6543 Please shut up.
safe to say Johnny's Borders series have reached space
Imagine how borders would look like after we started colonising other planets.
@@Ascientistsjourney pretty sure British will mess up the borders there too
Super interesting - do you have citations or some kind of bibliography for reference?
I love Johnny's videos and they give a really good groundwork on a number of topics. On this one however it compares a number of things that aren't exactly the same. For instance footage would suggest a comparison between the space tourism flights and Space X's Starship. It doesn't talk too much about end goals regardless of if Elon Musk's of saving the human race by being able to colonize Mars. It states that Nasa is helping to fund these private companies but doesn't look at the bottom line that Nasa receives much less than it used to and instead of doing their own projects, they're investing and also partnering with other companies that have a model that is much quicker than the one that built something like the Saturn V. I'm not saying that there won't be a problem of space debris if there isn't an agreed upon guideline for all countries to follow. At some point there could be a tipping point. I think designing systems like the Starlink satellites that have propulsion for major debris avoidance and end of life deorbiting is at least a start and if those dead satellites had been put up with this in mind, it would definitely change things. Anyway, space is a deep topic and there are so many variables at play. I wasn't aware until I started watching Tim Dodd, The Everyday Astronaut. Helps bring a lot of context. I think the commercial competition of private sat launches could be problematic. Who's to say what's most noble but I'm not really stoked about space being a money making plan. I guess I'd rather money becoming more meaningless in the face of voyages into the unknown.
I'm still confused on how they have technology to send stuff to Mars but can't get back to the moon!!? They say they destroyed the technology and from my understanding mars is a lot farther than the moon!
Some interesting points were raised in this video: mega-constellations are coming, the rate at which satellites are launched isn't stopping and we do need a better system to manage them all. That being said there were inaccuracies throughout
You should probably back that up with what those inaccuracies are exactly with sources.
@@Guy-gk8nw Lol. My thoughts exactly!
@@Guy-gk8nw This video seemed to lack the normally very impressive amount of background research and outside expertise that this channel usually has. Not putting into context the way many LEO satellites, including all Star Link satellites, will be able to make slight adjustments to avoid collision and deorbit themselves at the end of their life due to their very low orbit, around 350 miles, seems to be a massive thing to not point out. Additionally, not mentioning the phrase Kessler Syndrome, which is basically the entire topic of this video, or the good that these satellites are doing seems like a rare mistake on a normally very thoughtful channel. Some of his info is even incorrect, the number of small pieces in orbit are greater than even what he said showing he might not have put as much research into this video as normal. Seems a bit rushed and opportunistic after the recent space news from Jeff Bezos, ect. I'm not pro adding more satellites or actively against it just thought this video could have used a bit more substance so it wouldn't feel as panicky.
@@Guy-gk8nw maybe the person who made the video should’ve actually done their research. it shows that they didn’t
Also nasa isn't investing in the companys, it buying products (satalite in orbit or outsourcing research projects).
The next multimillion dollar industry (potentially billion): Space clean up
That's actually being researched. I can see government hiring Private companies to clean up some designated paths for satellites before launching one.
@@gabbar51ngh really? I didn’t know that, I figured it could work if space was littered with junk, but I don’t know how to go about it, so just made it as a joke lol.
@@bossmicky9256 Elon Musk has also toyed with the idea of using starship as a space junk collector, although we can't trust all space companies indefinitely to self regulate; space companies do have a return investment to keep space clean.
@𝗔𝗯𝗵𝗶𝘀𝗵𝗲𝗸 𝗟𝗼𝘂𝗿 haha possibly. You never know, but I think this is something the billionaires who are fighting to get into space already thought of, plus they have money to make it happen. I can definitely see it being a possibility, but not something someone like me can achieve.
Edit: I said already because someone above mentioned Musk of thinking of doing something similar, im sure bezos and branson have all thought of something similar, I also say its not something I can do b/c I don’t even have 100k to my name lol, and thats not even the cost of r&d and other things like material, how much it would cost for fuel, failures etc.
We can't even clean up the surface of the planet or the seas, with waste that is either stationary or moving at very low speed; never mind clean up things flying past at 28,000 kph in space!
Woah I think I'm gonna use this as a source for my essay this was cooool
Wow what footage but space is so magical. I cant get enough. I have videos in a playlist on repeat. Even watch it sometimes and listen to music I like imagine me travel the space fast feel driving the racing car with rokk music deltaparole tool foofighters nirvana and other.
This video brings up good points, but as a person who works in the space industry, a lot of this information is either misconstrued, misleading, or incorrect. There are serious efforts being made to address the space debris problem. So many incredible people are tirelessly working these legislative and regulatory shortfalls
EXACTLY! I was so disappointed in someone this good at making docs slowly go down the totempole in quality. Hopefully he is a bit more thorough and LESS alarmist.
I agree. He does have some point, dont get me wrong. More needs to be done about avoiding Kepler Syndrome. Some countries need to take it more seriously, and I think there should be more treaties/legislation to help with this. That doesn't quite mean that SpaceX or Blue Origin or ULA are the devil for boosting the space economy, and all three tend to be pretty good about being responsible, I think because they realize that if they dont, and trigger a prompt critical (so to speak) breakdown of low earth orbit, theyre fucked. The business just disappears in minutes, and stays dead for dozens of years. They know better than to shit where they eat. Still, thats not a guarantee, there should be legislation and treaties on the issue. Still, I dont think this characterization is quite fair.
Personally? I think maybe the single most important use of Starship may be removing space debris. Even more important than going to mars (at least at this moment in time). Because the moon, mars or anywhere else is totally cut off from us if we dont avoid Kepler Syndrome.
EDIT: Let me just point out, I havent made any comment on any of these CEOs as people. At the very kindest we can say none of them is perfect, at the more realistic level, theyre all pretty much dickbags (some more than others). However, that doesnt make everything they do inherently bad. Bezos in particular I think is really kind of a dick, but his space related business, Blue Origin, is probably one of the best things he's done in his life. Even so it doesnt make his choices or Blue Origin's flawless either. These big CEO figureheads are usually assholes, but these companies are more than just them, and just because the founder is an asshole doesnt mean the company is bad or is going to do bad things. Its always possible of course, but its not a foregone conclusion that the company and its deeds are bad, simply because the founder is an ass.
I could not agree with you more and would like to know what you think of another comment i made mainly for Johnny as this video is just so frustrating.
Dude, you really seem like you are trying to fear monger in this video. Not only is SpaceX a private company not beholden to investors, but it, (and Blue Origin/ Virgin Galactic), are actively anticipating scenarios where they will need to act as a debris collector for low earth orbit space junk. All three of the CEO's are not just billionaires with no shits to give in regards to LEO; they very much understand that if a thriving space industry is to exist, these problems will have to be solved. You also greatly mischaracterize the fact that there is "no regulation" in space. Who do you think SpaceX is asking to allow them to launch all these satellites? There are several organizations in the U.S. and the E.U. that regulate when and where these companies are allowed to place these satellites into orbit. It is not just a random path that they throw a dart at and say good enough. Thousands of man hours are put into planning and logistics in regards to the area around Earth in which these satellites reside.
I normally support your videos wholeheartedly, but you really seem like you phoned it in for this video. It bums me out because this video might make someone anti-space and that is awful. "There are no rules of the road in space." Dude really? It took me literally 30 seconds, to google, "rules regarding satellites launching internationally", and i got at least 3 governmental websites from Australia, the U.K. and the U.S.
I do agree with your point that cooperation is indeed critical; however, this video is 90%, WE'RE GONNA TO BE TRAPPED AHHHHH. We will not be trapped on earth even if LEO became riddled with space mines. The trajectories that are calculated now and in the future, very much take into account for the fact that there is debris in space to account for and to maneuver around. You reeeeeeally seem like you looked at the wrong sources on this one.
Speaking of, what are your sources?? Where do you get your information from? You might seem a little more credible in regards to your arguments if you included which sources you derived your information from cause for all I know you got some if this information from Buzz feed. You are a journalist! You know sources are everything. Why should I listen to what you say if you cannot corroborate it? Trusting you to do your research is not enough and should never be enough.
Talk to NasaSpaceFlight, EveryDayAstronaut, or Scott Kelly if you want to speak to subject matter experts on what you tried to get across in this video. These men can answer almost any possible question you have in regards to Space related things. This is not a topic that a sub 20 minute video featuring no sources can hope to encompass, but you could've done better than this.
The point of the video is to ask the question. While there are ppl tirelessly working on solving the problem, the fact is the problem exist for you to be so tirelessly working on it. The tireless jobs are also not as hyped as equally or implemented as fast as the source of the problem. Also, the point everyone in this thread actually agree with, is what the whole video is about. So being frustrated that there are ppl who are working on cleaning up space not being mentioned, is the same as beach cleaner upset someone raising concerns about polluting the ocean. There are always a group working on doing the right thing and not being recognised, but it’s human nature to create the problem faster than it can solved. It’s clear a bit of hyperbole existed, because he did follow it up saying, until we find another way around it or clean it up.
@@Sxchiko While that is a valid enough reason for some x or y to put up a video, Johnny doesn't just put up videos to ask a question with half blown facts. He is known to research every nook and cranny (this is the standard he has set for himself). All a lot of us are saying is that this is alarmist nonsense and not his style of journalism.
WALL-E really did predict the future…
Exactly🗿
Yes. Wall-E was a "likely result of our current path" kind of dystopian story. If you watch through the correct lens, it really should scare you silly.
@@codeman99-dev agree
Yo Jonny, a documentary about the late UFO phenomenon?? That would be very Interesting bro
This is crazy. I never would have thought 🙃
All of this has given me a Wall-E vibe or Cowboy Bebop feel…
Johnny, you do realize Starlink is at an *extremely* low orbit, to the point where anything that had its orbit trajectory affected by a collision would make it deorbit in a couple months? Starlink is not in some high-up low earth orbit.
While SpaceX has so far launched their satellites into pretty low orbits, they have plans for shells as high as 1200km/750mi. Tens of thousands of satellites at that height, where it would take a few decades to decay rather than a few years, is absolutely something we should be concerned about.
And they are going even lower. They really seem to care about the Kessler syndrome, otherwise going that low seems like a bad idea.
@@CraigButz could you send a link that talks about this. I’m trying to read more about it
@@adamrak7560 It's more so to do with cost and efficiency, their plans are about more bandwidth and connectability. Geostationary satellites can have huge disadvantages, either with the cost, or with effective coverage, LEO satellites may require loads more, but the cost can be significantly less depending on how they go about setting them up and the design process.
Elon seems to care about the issues in general, but for this use it's not really an issue, more or less just something governments are worried about.
oh god here comes the elon fanboys .
I remember seeing one of the spacex caravans a year or two ago. It was really freaky at first!
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All new satellites should require a self de-orbiting system once they're done their service life. I think quite a few have that now to avoid a Kessler scenario. Space races (regardless of govt or civilian) are kind of a double edged sword.
All new sats do. At least from the US. Unless geo, once they are about to die they increase their orbit instead, getting out of geo making room for a new one to take it's place and then die in space lol
Yes, but if you are launching tens or hundreds of thousands of satellites, you can expect dozens or hundreds where the de-orbiting fails.
They already have one… it’s called gravity.
@@CraigButz SpaceX solves that by launching to very low orbit (550km). In case of a drifting sat it would deorbit naturally in a few years. The debris would deorbit even faster if they collide (most of it in months).
Their launch costs are getting so low that they may even send up spacecrafts to capture rouge sats, but that should not be necessary in most cases, because of the short lifetime anything on that low orbit.
They are even planning to launch to 350km, where you do not even need any deorbiting at all, because without propulsion everything gets deorbited in a few months.
@@mattsayers8565 At orbital velocity that could take hundreds of years for orbits to decay on some objects. (Which is kind of the point of the video.) There are still booster stages from launches 60 years ago up there. The ISS has a wipple shield and gets hit by micro meteorites all the time. There's also been a number of times the ISS crew has had to wait in the Soyuez escape capsules when there was a potential impact window for objects large enough to cause serious damage.
0:16 Wow I cannot get over that transition
that's a good point about the collision and it's eventual impact!
A univeral law:
There is nothing within their tech that humans cannot mess up entirely.
Johnny, I normally agree with all of your videos and think they’re well sourced. I think you’ve overlooked how modern constellation satellites can avoid each other and de orbit themselves once they’ve expired
Wanted to point this out, also people have started to look up ways to bring back the space debris.
Also the amount of paperwork for flight paths and orbits are heavily regulated at least in the US by the FAA. China, not so sure
The space X caravan looks like Morse code.
Wonder we can read it.
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Thanks for sharing this
They might need to adopt some sort of system similar to naval and aviation traffic rules, with special provisions for unattended crafts such as satellites. For example, vehicles under rocket propulsion have to yield to vessels that only have small thrusters (similar to how a powerboat must yield to a sailboat). All crafts have to yield to unattended crafts. Et cetera. Even though it is not official, these rules would be the natural ones to follow while in space.
portrayed in the movie gravity which is a really good movie
space enthusiasts: DO YOU HAVE A DEATH WISH
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Gravity is supposed to be a symbolic film about a mother confronting her own fears about the death of her child - sure, the physics is not all there, but that's not the point of the movie. It seems to attract the 'AKCHUALLY' crowd like flies to honey though which is at least entertaining on its own hehe.
@@errhka I don't mind how movies portray space, it's not like they represent physics and reality here on earth anyway ;) But you don't call the physics of the latest fast & furious realistic don't you? Same with Gravity
Uhhhhh no. Gravity was so scientifically illiterate it's not funny.
God, that movie is horrible. Probably one of the worst actresses of all time too.
World *pay tax*
Jeff : Goes to space
'I want to thank every Amazon employee, and every Amazon customer, because you guys paid for all this.’
The life we live compared to the wealthy is night and day.
@@_whatnext_9319 Thank you, Captain Obvious. Our life compared to the Third World is also like night and day.
Probable future for Riches and Poors:
Destroy Earth
Riches leave Earth, while Poors left behind
Search more habitable planets to colonize
Repeat
(If the Poors left behind somehow can recover the Earth, the riches comeback just to do same shit again)
🤔🤔🤔
I think that's the bit where you add the Tim Curry "Space!" meme originally from Red Alert 3, right? Except maybe use deepfake to put Bezos' face on it...
Just saw this video, very nicely done. There is a lot of space debris from satellites and rockets that have broken up, for whatever reason, and other objects, like the 500 million copper pins from the West Ford Project, that have been put there on purpose.
Hey dude, you make a great work in your channel, i always get surprise
This reminded me of an Anime: Planetes regarding this space trash.
Indeed, in future there will be a job like that in Planetes.
@@KySeR686 😂😂😂I need to watch that anime again.
Is it a good anime?
@@whoisjocy its very good. more on the realistic side, meaning no demon alien gods and stuff like that
Was gonna say the same thing, this anime is so good and showing what happens if theres too much space debris
Well, at least we won't get invaded by Aliens when we shield the planet with metal junk ✌️
Not for long
They will most likely be advanced enough to kinda just
Ignore the debris completely
Conspiracy theorists will say it was the World Hegomonies plan all along!
@@wat2206 ok
Instead, the earth would be able to have a ring like Saturn's. Metal ring, not ice ring.
lol at seeing the satellites lined up flying through the sky. I had the exact same "omg I am seeing aliens" moment.
Great video like always
This is exactly what I am studying! Law schools around the country are beginning to have aerospace programs to tackle these sorts of issues!
I'm just waiting for the response video by an actual scientist.
@Truly Twisted so, please do. Sounds like important information.
@Truly Twisted good luck catching debris with a starship. You would have to adjust your orbit to match your targets orbit for each piece of junk you want to catch. A lighter and more nimble satellite would be better suited for the job. For big chunks you might even use something like the mission extension vehicle
@Truly Twisted if ICBMs are flying, humanities main problem is nuclear war!
Space debris will be the smallest concern. The US has over 400 ICBMs in service, even if 90% collided with debris there could still be mutually assured destruction.
The only real danger to satellites would be the countermeasures. While kinetic kill vehicles would leave a cone of debris that would mostly follow the ballistic trajectory back to earth, other anti-ICBM concepts included detonation nukes in space. Tests expanded the Van-allen-belts and destroyed nearby satellites by emp.
But in the end I must stress that satellite operators starving in a nuclear winter is the bigger problem.
I can really imagine Johnny freaking out over his encounter 🤣
This is the beginning of space travel . Maybe in 100 years we would be able to travel to other planets easily
😂😂😂😂 how you have great imagination
Great video, big fan of the channel, I also follow the space industry closely. A few quick thoughts:
- in LEO there is still atmosphere to crash into, so satellites do eventually self-clean themselves up, even if they completely die and can’t de orbit themselves, and if they crash into each other and create debris, that debris won’t be massively further from the atmosphere, so the little bits will show down due to drag even faster (a matter of months or years, not decades). This is also how that train of starlink satellites spreads out, they angle them to increase/reduce drag to make them spread.
- The big satellite constellations do typically seek permission to orbit in certain orbital planes, so they are incentivised to keep their orbit clean.
- many many of the hundreds of satellites that are launched each month are small or cubesats and de orbit in a matter of days/months
- definitely it’s worth being concerned about junk in higher orbits contributing to Kessler Syndrome.
- there are some cool solutions being dreamed up for solving this problem, and they will benefit from some of the new rockets being produced.
- viewers don’t need to feel like every rocket launch they see is contributing to some impending doom, but yes it is something being managed, and more oversight would be wise
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I said it twice and I'll say it again. Give this man his own Netflix show.
There are not a lot of people smart enough for this on Netflix.
no, then netflix will release one season and put the show in netflix jail
His content would not be suitable for any streaming platform considering he criticises a lot of people
Why watch for free on CZcams when you can pay and watch on Netflix right
Yeah men , what's the deal
This is just how in the early days of Industrialization, rivers were completely polluted.
Except that, this wont affect a particular village, state or country but the entire of earth, the entire of human civilization.
Terrific video, must watch.
Aaargh, I'm screaming internally, not a single mention of the "Kessler syndrome", cmon man.
You're not the only one. At this point I am questioning Johnny's journalism and his intentions. Was this just skipped over?! Was it because lack of research?! Was it other motives?! Was it because other influences?! Or is there a much BIGGER **cough Hedge Firms** motive to make a video like this????
@Literally Musab If you don't learn to ASK the right questions, you discover nothing.
wait what’s kessler syndrome
@@notatrick88 a syndrome that kessler has
Sometimes I feel like he focuses too much on editing, to where it's simply overedited and flashy to catch viewer's attention, and that may have led to him not even mentioning Kessler Syndrome. Very bad to not mention it in this video. It's a very, very important topic he's discussing, the future of our species being able to get off this planet safely. His overedited style is why I find him hard to watch -__- and now maybe it looks like it's done him wrong.
So you described Kessler syndrome but never named it. why?
Because he doesn't really understand the topic.
Because a general audience is too stupid for technical/academic terminology :/
@@MrNicoJac isn't the point of of these videos to educate and inform the general audience.
@@Magistratiss
Well, I'd say so, yeah.
But looking at what the algorithm promotes and suppressed, clearly a sort of popular science is favored over true reality.
Hence the :/
Johnny, do you share your references that you used to make research videos like this? They would be nice to see. Also would have been good to nod at the fact that this whole matter is called the Kessler Syndrome and was first thought about in the late 1970s.