What To Do When Riding a Horse That Gets Out of Control
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2013
- This clip is from the retraining of an explosive 17.1 hand Andalusian. This is the start of the first ride after going through all the groundwork, and is posted here in response to the question "What do you do on an out of control horse?"
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„You don’t need to be controlling him all the time“
WORD!
It’s a partnership! You should be in contact, not in control
Thats correct, he needs to be able to control himself, thats what we are working on here.
Thank you...educated horse people have no idea
its NOT a partnership; the RIDER MUST b in control otherwise u have chaos
@@Lauren-vd4qe It´s in the horses instinct to follow, thats when they feel most comfortable. leading is not the same as controlling.
@@watchgoose totally
Such an important lesson. If more riders watched this - there would be a lot less accidents. It really goes back to groundwork lessons - don't move on to Step 2 if you don't have Step 1 completely under control and your horse remains calm. So many riders & trainers just want to move everything along, despite their horse telling them they're not ready. Thank you for another gem.
Finally a trainer on YT who doesn’t beat there horse the get their way
Edit: just want everyone to know that this is not saying all CZcamsrs who are trainer beat there horses I am just trying to say that it is a recommendation that isn’t recommend because it’s abuse.
Then you must have some shifty taste in YT videos if you believe that the entire fucking website is filled with abusive horse trainers.
@@seasaltz6538 it’s not that I’m saying all YT horse trainers are abusive I’m just saying that usually any YT video that is recommend about a horse trainer, there is usually abuse in it, since they’re usually popular because of the abuse.
@@HollyLaud link me to said "popular" abuse horse videos. Also while you're at it, try to find a good website to first edit your comment so it doesn't look like a 13 year old wrote it.
@@seasaltz6538 oh for god sake I did nothing wrong except give an opinion which btw the comment section is for !!! So piss off!!!
@@HollyLaud honestly feel bad for you, that response was so uncalled for
That's it! I'm buying a horse tomorrow. I don't care how small my living room is. Now I can circle him.
Sooo funny 😄
Lmao 😂
Lol!!! There's a lot more to owning and riding a horse than just circling it....
@@bwenluck9812 r/whoosh
I don’t think people realise your comment was a joke
Great way to express what allot of people don't understand....that if there's a hole in the boat...don't start rowing.
Tracy Broick ?m
Don’t say anything if you don’t know anything about horses
@@gregharmon9545
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Someone who doesn't advise you to pull hard on the reins when the horse is out of control.
You are a fine trainer mister!👌🏻
My trainer says the hardest things for us humans to do is nothing. Sometimes you have to ask for something and then do nothing while the horse figures it out.
It's rare to see people on youtube who claim to know horses, and they prove that they actually know horses. Wonderful video!
Right and all the people that need help with their horses proves that.
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I think you will like this channel, this trainer really understands horses!
No its not. All it takes is a fucking search bar to find more good horse trainers on CZcams.
I really love your calm, relaxed attitude with horses. If only everyone could step back, keep their egos out of training, and just work with the horse. You are a real inspiration, Warwick. Wish another Aussie I used to like (he who shall not be named), had such a good attitude! :)
Kimberly Smiley I truly don't understand what happened to that other unnamed Aussie - I used to have a lot of admiration for him, as well.
I have been training horses for some twenty years. I really appreciate your bluntness in this video. I agree with everything you explain. I feel that in this new training world we live in many of the clinicians are too worried about being politically correct and sugar coat things. I love your statement about not riding an uncontrolled horse. I agree. If you are doing your job you don't have to get on an uncontrolled horse. Keep up the good work.
yes mate,this is what i try to explain in uk,but .....
I wouldn't call those people " clinicians", well not in the scientific sense, at least! Clinicians are usually driven by data and conclusions, not political correctness. I wish these clinicians would stop calling themselves thus.
Ross Bronson ...sorry but are you related to Elaine Bronson?
Same in the dog world as I am a trainer, what they don't realize is their clients do not understand the terminology they use so they don't understand, I keep it simple as I suppose I'm just a simple person 😁
Marcia Roberts l
One rein for control; 2 for communication. Always do your pre-flight checks before you get on to make sure your horse is switched on. Thank you for this video. You explain horse/human behaviour very well.
2 for communication? Why do you say that? I ride my guys with 1 hand in a rope hackamore. And plenty of communication there.
You have no idea how happy I am to have a person like you in this world
Tell you what mate .You put it in plain language .So many videos on horse training are not explained simply yours are excellent. Top job mate
Thanks mate
+WarwickSchiller your horse is beautiful I love my horse he is all black horse and he is very calm with me .......PS I love horses🐴💜🐎
Mustang Sally to
hannah Siller ppsmfxmmjhyytrwa
Watch Klause F Hempkling videos on horses training. Amazing
I just got more useful tips out of this video than I have gotten from months of reading online articles and chatting with people. Thank you so much.
That horse is stunning.
Katelynn Cottrell I agree
He is very pretty, but it looks as thought his mane is pulled, what a shame on an Andalusian! I'm used to them having long luxurious manes :(
a beauty ...
Terri L doesn’t look like an Andalusian to me
Terri L Agreed. I have an andelusian stallion. The thing is, the mane’s grow quickly, so sometimes you need to cut them a bit to avoid problems such as tripping/stumbling etc. I usually braid or trim my horse’s mane. I have never once cut it where it was that short. But I see what you mean.
I love this video (and all of your videos...) because you are redefining "out off control". Out of control does not mean in the red zone about to be bucked off hanging on for dear life - it means you're not in control, right now, period. Doesn't matter how small the issue, you stop it before it becomes a real danger. Thank you Warwick for making it look like I know what I'm doing at the barn.
GoodRedBlackRatio same
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@@evelynrousseau6100 2lkkj non mb mb k mhm
The smallest thing can make the biggest difference
How to control an out-of-control-horse " don't let go while he's moving his feet and wait and wait and wait... let go now" yeah that's useful advice
I seriously can’t get over how beautiful he is and how well built
Edit: guess we will never know which Male I’m talking about 🤗
the horse or the guy
@@Lauren-vd4qe 😂
If its the horse, it looks like an average cheap horse
Gacha Corns horses that start to reach 100k become an average professional sports horse
Gacha Corns 500k plus becomes a very good professional horse
I can absolutely appreciate what's being said. He's right on the money. I love common sense in dealing with horses.
Dude is an idiot....
@@kaymartin2189 Warwick Schiller is an idiot? He trains constantly and is one of the most adept people at using and modifying horse behavior with his body language that I've ever seen. I am a retired trainer, he impresses me, and his personality is amazing.
@@kaymartin2189 You have absolutely no horse related content, but this trainer is an idiot. Right..
You are the best! I always feel more calm after watching you with horses. The way you understand what they are feeling...never blaming them. I guess I need someone to do that with me. That would be a huge relief. Thank you God (in advance) for giving me what just what I needed.
My way of thinking is that your horse is your partner, its not a one sided relationship and you have to work as a team because that's what you are. You do not need to control a horse, I think you need to communicate with it, so you and your horse both understand what you want/need of each other.
That is a very good bond with your horse. I loved the way he followed you when you started walking around! Beautiful horse!
Excellent lesson. I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who uses a mounting block when schooling my horses.
Shelley Skrepnek My vet says if you don't use a mounting block, you're giving your horse a bad chiropractic adjustment every time you get on.
@@moonharp that and some of us are short!
I applaud your horsemanship, folks forget ground work is the foundation. If you can't control his feet on the ground, your feet don't belong in the saddle. I rode lots of hot burned out rodeo/pattern horses. I click on this thinking it was gonna be a horror show. I'm so glad I was wrong. I love the moment where you can see the horse mind working, figuring out what's being asked. Then the calm release. It's never really a pony problem, is always a people problem.
idk why im watching this, i dont even own a horse!
Emmanuel Thommy why do you have to own a horse to watch this?
Emmanuel Thommy
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Always good to have knowledge.
😂😂😂😂😂😂thanks for the laugh !
These methods work on all animals and humans! I'm a teacher and have seen it.
Before you even put the reins on that grey you could tell already he was apprehensive of you- but the second you made contact with him, we wanted to follow you. Love this horses' wanting to find a decisive leader.
Good point..People loose patience and the horse's pick up on that.
Refreshing to see something on here that is actually good information imparted by a real professional. Thanks for a good mini clinic!
Loved this! This so hits home for me because we work with dogs with sever behavior issues and get asked the same sort of question all the time. People want to us dealing with their dog with the same severity of problem(s) they are dealing with - but it won't happen. To be in control, you can't let them escalate.
Exactly I'm a dog trainer. Trained horses for years and it's the same concept just a bigger animal take your time be patient baby steps don't be i a big hurry to do it all in one day.
Much respect. I enjoy following your horse training videos but I must argue, yes, even good solid horses can become out of control. They are living beings, not machines. Therefor, us as riders must never take our safety for granted.
I was just trail riding yesterday with a dear friend, her husband (a farrier and good horse trainer in his own right) and my husband. We were at the top of a small, heavily wooded mountain when a long twig her appox. 17hh horse stepped on came up and smacked him in the face, near his eye. My friend was thrown off and broke 5 ribs (one in two places) and broke her clavicle in three spots. She's getting ready for surgery right now as I type this. It took medics a very long time to get to her. She was in pain and couldn't move. We feared a broken back the way she landed. These are folks who ride regularly 5-6 hours at a time on these same trails, same horses. It can, and does, happen that your horse can lose control. Even if it is momentary, the results can be traumatic. This horse froze in place when she fell even with the human commotion. He didn't want to be naughty. He stood still for the quad, the gator and once to the road again, the ambulance. Life happens. Horses are unpredictable - period.
I do enjoy your videos and your advice. Just felt compelled at this moment to share this. I had this video open two days ago and still was here when I got home from the hospital with my friend. Just want people to be careful, no matter their level or the level of their horse.
+Janet Ford Well, its just that life is not very predictable. My father is riding every day and has been for the past 50 years or so. I know sooner or later, his horse will come home without him, but that is his choice to make. If people are afraid or just thinking, that something might happen, then my advice to them would be not to go on a horse.
A lot of them do it anyway and then say their horse is crazy. But thats all good, because that way people like Warwick and my dad can have a job they love doing.
Absolutely! They have a mind of their own just as we do and there is no such thing as a permanently programmed horse! ...really I think that's why they are more fun than say, riding a motorcycle...they are unpredictable and at any moment decide that they don't feel like letting those tiny people control them any more!
Janet Ford Best. Comment. Here. 🏆
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Awww he's cute. And the fact that he can just accept getting a rider on his back like that, shows trust in the trainer. If he was a mischievous horsy or scared, he would not have the calm confidence to be distracted by the other horses nearby and even pay attention to them in the calm and curious way he did.
+wirina holstein Lots of groundwork went in to making him calm at this point.
viewthroughalens Lots of patient and knowledgeable work is always the secret behind the most trusting horses and best riders :-)
When trainers say “I can’t control him” it usually translates to “I haven’t mentally prepared him for what I’m asking him to do”
I had to keep watching..... this guy really does know horses. A real pleasure to watch. Great feel and an understanding of where the horse is. I’m so tired of watching horses ruined because of the rider’s ego or lack of knowledge. Lucky horse. Hurray for the owner! Sharon
This guy is very sharp. For the most part, horses are very predictable if you just pay attention to them. Focus small and then expand the pressure. Good job!
Its really nice to see someone who really knows what theyre on about!
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This is a good video, for those that do not understand, he is showing how that you must have a horse under control BEFORE it get to a point of out of control, by having the horse 'listen' to the rider before he makes a move, any moves. A horse that moves when not told to move, yes he is out of control... If a horse moves when you stepping up on it ,even one step, that is actually 'out of control'.
Hi Warrick , I just watched this short tutorial that we can go and watch the rest if we like . From what I seen I was impressed by your calm handling of the horse and teaching him clearly so he understood what the rider was asking of him . I am certainly going to be following your page and learning the errors of the rider I have made. Thank you very much 😊
I love the respect he’s showing the horse 😍
I was expecting this to be another wrong way to deal with horses but it was actually very useful and tied in with some basic knowledge that I already knew :))
Notice how attentive the horse is to the movements of the trainer. As soon as the trainer starts to walk away, the horse immediately follows him. That's a sign that the horse has accepted the trainer as his/her leader.
Just watched again, excellent stuff, I could watch your lessons all day Warwick...
Another lesson so simple, yet so profound in its power and scope.
I love your common sense horse training it comes with a lot of experience.
6 years later I still like this video. Things I wish I knew when I was young and inexperienced. You haven't known real riding until you learn.. I don't have a word for it, but 'natural horsemanship' comes to mind. The language of the horse is simple but requires extreme consistency- pressure and release. You want him to move gently? Press his side gently and wait. Use only as much force as needed then immediately stop when you get a positive response. Works for backing up, walking on lead, and in the saddle. This isn't great for brand new riders though, as they don't know what to do with their feet yet and might end up with a well broke horse galloping due to pressing hard. Or a cutting horse that jerks sideways if you only tap one side and not both. Ground ahoy!
I don't see enough trainers giving riders tips on how to tell if a horse is under sufficient control. I like the way you provide some indicators even just deciding to mount or not. Cheers.
A pleasure to watch & learn. Regards from the central valley of California, & thanks!
All of your videos are great! I'm so happy that your are sticking with it even though ignorant people don't agree...
thats probably why he has a TV show and ignorant people dont!
This man is AMAZING . . .
Thank you for sharing this video.
I love this man. I love his approach.
This is that video.This was the first time I'd got on him . I get on at 2.44 and he was under control, but then at 3.24 when I try to bend his head to the side, he couldnt do that standing still, he was completely out of control right then.
Meget bra,,og riktig gjort. Du brukte ikke bissel,,er ikke mange hester som liker det. Har jobbet med hester selv,,De er utrolige,,,Tusen takk for en bra video. 🙂🌹
Excellent! This was actual helpful and a lightbulb certainly went off for me. I have a beautiful 14 y/o bay Arab gelding who is a good horse but he unfortunately knows that he knows more than I do. He has been very good lately but is capable of putting me off right through is ears. He has that annoying habit of moving his feet when I'm swing my leg over the saddle when I'm mounting on- I know can see that this is a subtle signal that he is out of control and I need to deal with it as more than just an annoying habit. Thank you!!!
what a deligthful response to this video.let there be more like you:)who are not afraid to admit and accually willing to learn.:)
Just wondering... has anyone considered there may be pain involved for the horse? What I mean is, does anyone check to see if the horse has a back or saddle issue? A sore back can go a long way to "training" a horse to resist being ridden.
I had an Arab/Morgan cross. Sometimes it's hard to keep a smart horse occupied & on task - they get bored so easily!
i used to have this problem too, when i was starting out. rule out pain, and if its not that, its behavioral. this is what i learned, and it has worked on every horse i have trained since: if your horse wants to move around, make him move, in tight circles on both sides, till he is begging you to rest. if you go and put your foot in the stirrup, and he moves away again, repeat, and help him move, but you be in control of his feet, and how fast hes moving. the fast he moves, and the tighter he does it, the more unpleasant and hard it will be. he will figure out that if he chooses to move, then he is going to be made to move, and then moving doesn't seem like a good idea after that. when you stick your foot in the stirrup, and he stands. reward him, by taking your foot out, and standing with him. its pressure/making the wrong thing hard/ and making him move, when hes being naughty, and release/making the right thing easy, rewarding him for standing still. if you try that several times, and inch by inch get your foot in, then swing up, and then sit in the saddle, while he stands, he will hold still when you mount, because standing will be the easy thing to do, since running around in circles, till hes begging to stop is very unpleasant and hard. thats pressure and release, or making the wrong thing hard, and the right thing easy, as they are one in the same. i hope that helps.
Oh my goodness I just ran into you, here -tonight, for the first time. Never heard of you or anything but you are now my favorite guy! Nice going and thank you for the education! 😉🙏🏻
Oh, he's amazing. I refer others to him all the time. He's very easy to understand.
Love, love, love your work. Can't wait for the DVD :)
How gorgeous is that horse! And wow he's a big boy!!!! He's absolutely stunning. How trusting is he to just follow you around !
Wonderful video... and so encouraging to read the comments from really concerned and
diligent owner / trainers. They obviously love their horses and want to train and treat
them properly. It's a blessing compared with some of the jumping / barrel racing videos...
that cause me to cringe and cry for the poor mounts! Thank you all, especially Schiller. =)
so logic, yet it's good to be reminded of everything he said. Short but important video! thank you!
What a great perspective offered in a clear and concise manner.
You make many good points. I think some people rush horses, when they are uncomfortable, and for what? Accidents can happen , it's not worth it.
He's listening so well❤
I love your approach and how you successfully project calm while talking. To me the answer to her question has to start at the very beginning -- learning how to groom and take care of a horse and the various physical and verbal things you can do to gain confidence between you and the horse on the ground. Later on, when riding and perhaps when spooked, then you need to be able to communicate through the saddle. Viewers should note how centered and balanced your seat is -- that's your primary communication to the horse; hands and voice are distant seconds.
Nice video-This is good solid advice here-
Lemonkisses, Honestly, If your horse is running off while lunging, and throwing his head up quite a bit-Neither you or he/she isn't ready for the show ring. You should wait until you and your horse have more experience together and you have solved your problems-the deal is--if you are having this level of problem at home, it will be magnified 10000 times in a show situation. You are just looking for trouble by showing at this stage. Showing is for horses that are under control and well trained. That is how you win! :) Hope that this helped!
You are correct!
You are simply great, Warwick!
I never had a round pen to train in. Open fields and wide open spaces. Down by the rio grande. Lots of wet saddle blankets and prayers😂
Excellent video on control and very beautiful big horse.
This is an excellent video! Thank you for sharing.
Beautiful horse. Im glad you are helping him get better. I love people who rehab animals who would otherwise have no chance.
Beautiful work, thank you for sharing this.
Please be safe, people. Use your instincts, and if you need help, get in touch with a professional like Warwick.
Excellent explanation on the relationship between animal and handler. Great work.
I did not know Andulusians get out of control, but you seem to be making a good point about not rushing a horse, but to train, and have control before going to the next step. I like this approach.
I ride English and yesterday I rode a horse named Jasper and he was doing the exact same thing! He doesn't like to wait in line to jump and he has a soft mouth, but he's good once you get him going.
Thanks for that, makes a lot of sense and helps a lot
Brilliant video. Thank you!
what a lovely horse , so patient and well behaved.and he's not being controlled by a bit!! Amazing.
My late husband taught me that ! It’s good to know . My late husband was a motion picture wrangler.
Very well done, excellent video. When you mounted him his feet were pretty close to being directly under him. That way he did not feel like he was going to lose his balance. Nice job.
Fantastic!! Thank you! 🐎
I really REALLY like this man who WORKS WITH horses❤
Patience and love is all an animal needs and they know and feel it if you genuinely care and they respond to it
Horse trusts Schiller. The way he follows him.Trust is essential.
This is amazing, love your videos.
I love your teaching.
You’re a horse whisperer.
Always learning❣️
Great video on hose training. What a beautiful horse!
That horse is so beautiful. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for this.
Simple and Brilliant :)
B-E-A-U-TIFUL animal! Wonderful training technique and verbalization, wonderful accent too!
I am in love with this Andalusian ❤❤❤ gorgeous!
Great stuff!
I like the way he stroked the horse instead of smacking it, it makes me cringe when people do that (I still don't like bits though)
you did an excellent job with a tough subject
Great advise!
It's so very sensible to start a horse without a bit in its mouth! Why add the new sensations - uncomfortable and potentially painful sensations - when everything else is also new? They're fully familiar with the halter and there's a mighty small chance of possibly hurting a horse with reins on a halter, compared to any kind of bit.
I trained my first horse from liking people but barely halter trained, to winning my 4-H and open horse shows and riding through town and forest alone.
I trained my second horse from an unhandled 18 month old stud colt to winning those fun shows and riding a couple thousand miles through 8 states and 11 years of happy partnership.
Started both of them and all my horses since, in a simple flat halter. The bit comes along after they understand the rest of the job.
WHEN we break horses in Ireland, we do all that stuff before we begin to ride them, teach them to pick up their feet, drive them on long reins for up to six weeks, take them to different places, in my young day, we used to take them to the bus depot to get used to buses etc., after four weeks on long reins and with the mouthing bit in, we introduce the saddle, lunge them with the saddle, and drive for another 2 weeks, these would be big three year olds 16 to 17 h.h. The most important thing to do was get the teeth inspected before we did anything to make sure the horse was happy in its mouth. No use trying to drive a horse on reins or mouth him, if he has a tooth problem. In the stable we would have lay over him, patted the saddle, two or three times a day until the horse was happy, giving him tidbits. Then he was ready for riding, never had a bit of trouble in over 50 years, if this method was carried out correctly, we were riding on public roads so the horse had to be manageable, . Riding in open fields, there were no sand arenas when I first started riding, it was a orner in a field for a young horse, or a grass lane, or along the side of a hedge. Horses can get out of control, of a worm gets on the brain etc, we used to call it, the horse has taken the meg. Every horse is different, different temperaments, I used to break my thoroughbreds this way also, never had any trouble, The problem today, is people trying to break horses that don't know what they are doing, can't read the signs of the horse, think they know it all when they watch a video or read a book, then end up with a spoilt horse that takes someone else ages to put right, and maybe never right. If you don't know what you are doing, don't do it, get someone that does, even if it costs you money to do it. Worth it in the end. Winifred Thompson, Lisburn, Co.Antrim, Northern Ireland.
Gigantic horse! Good job with him!
Thanx hun. Regards from South Africa! 💃
Omg. Way better then most people train, and bitless!. Keep it up!
Love this.
I stopped riding because I thought it’s cruel.
My mom introduced me to horsemanship and bitless riding.
It’s a whole new world and I love it.
Now I’m like that one annoying person that stopped smoking and telling everyone else to stop.😆
How the heck is it cruel to ride with a bit!?
@@furriesareweird triggerd?
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@@jliever1785 Noone gets triggered by someone like you spewing bs. Get off that High horse and check your facts. That down there? Not a reliable source. If I wanted my Program to sell, I'd probs twist some facts so my program looks better. Riding with a regular bit, if your Hand is calm, is fine. Riding with a sharp bit or with shaky hands is probably less okay. Riding with a hackamore, however, is just cruel if you can't ride perfectly.
It's not the bit being a bad mean. It's all about how the equestrian controls and influences it, how his hands are, and how much they rely on it. I ride with bits all the time when really working with horses. But when I wanna have fun, I'll Just put on a halter and ride. Because I don't depend on it. Because my Hands are steady and because I don't rely on it. It simply is a great Tool to use to help your horse find the correct Position and in showjumping to give them the Extra push.
@@yuzu8709 thank you!
such a stunning horse!
Great video! I agree with this horseman.
Right on, take your time, pretty horse wants to understand.
What a gorgeous horse.
Great video and I agree with you completely. I think the problem comes when you go riding somewhere and you are trusting their levels of training. This is the problem I'm coming across more and more frequently. So perhaps the question is what to do when you get on a horse you don't know (on holiday or at a riding club for example) that doesn't listen and takes fright at something?