"It's Been Set Up For the Indian TV Market!" | Steve Harmison frustrated By World Cup Schedule 😡
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Former England fast-bowler Steve Harmison joins the H&J show to discuss England reaching the semi-finals and the poor schedule of the T20 World Cup, which is leaving fans in the dark.
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I mean, you can't blame the broadcasters when they know that the English would switch to the Euros
Exactly this.
Nope!
Indian by any chance?
Entitled much?
It depends on the matches. Some games I have favoured the cricket, sometimes I have favoured the football.
@@AW_77 Most Englishmen don't care about cricket. Winning the Euros would be more important to them than winning the Cricket (ODI) World Cup.
Because they know that India is literally carrying the global cricket viewership.😂
Boohoo. Everything was fine until the 90s when everything was as per UK’s timetable. 😂
This, who can forget the 2008 UCL final in Moscow had a KickOff at 10:45PM local time, which is unheard of, by the time FT, ET, Penalty Shootout and Trophy Presentation was done it was 3AM in the morning
Is it really set up for Indian audiences only? You sure Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nepal , Sri Lanka and Bangladesh follow a completely different time zone?
Do those countries produce any value to cricket. Neither do they play good cricket nor they have any market . Money produced in Indian market is so huge that all those countries get nullified. So it is obvious that all things are made up to please Indian market. Look at the timing of Indian matches, look at the grounds selected in America for Indian matches all in New York to be at the center of the 37000 people. Even in super 8 all matches happened at 8 pm , can't u see that everything is pre decided. except the results of the matches.
Do ever saw matches happening in day in carribbean league. ,No . All occur in nights. Only to please Indian market they get it in morning
As an Indian I can understand the frustration but what can anyone do, English Aussies have stopped watching cricket it seems so, try making cricket famous in Europe
T20 killed Aussie and English interest
@@Will5353_ didn't England introduce the format? They're still trying to shorten the game with The Hundred and the likes. (Makes sense because all forms of content everywhere is being shortened)
@@Will5353_Actually T20 is the most watchable format. Exactly why it was created.
As great as Test matches are, most people would prefer a 5 day vacation over watching one game.
Timings are setup not just for indian fans but for entire South Asia fans including Pakistan Bangladesh srilanka Nepal as well
They consider all of em as Indians
India killing cricket
Yeah. 6 AM morning game are set for Indian market. What an absolute filth Harmy is talking...
There is not a single India match that's happening at 6 am IST.
The whole reason why South Africa and England didn't know where they were playing their SFs is because they had to wait for India to qualify, since India were going to play the Guyana 8 pm IST semifinal no matter what.
@@shashankjha8851It is somewhat fixed kind of🤔 because Ind Afghanistan together planned thrash Australia and important is Ind beat Afghanistan whereas Afghanistan beating every other strong team Newzealand Pakistan Australia but not India🤔 strange?? Kind of cheating in this world cup 😥this world cup is for India👏 just don't play semis and finals, give them trophy cause it is totally fixed, Jai Shah you have said right in February this year "India is winning this world cup in Rohit Sharma captaincy" How someone to be very sure about that India is winning this is pure cheating 😔
He also conveniently forgets that Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal are in similar time zone belts.
@@nandraclan1493 Afghanistan too
6pm..he said early evening 😅😅😅
By that logic Europeans should organize football matches to Indian Standard Time cause the Europeans are willing to watch football at any given time, right?
You miss the point. The interest in cricket is largely skewed to Indian audience whereas football is universally watched
@@neilgovender7450लंड
Translate this.😂
@@neilgovender7450because broadcaster given huge money (3 billion dollars) to ICC by Star sports so as u know it can be recovered by the Indian audience can't be from Europe
@@neilgovender7450 That is BS euro centric propaganda that your dumbass fell for . No football world cup will ever be won by a non-European majority country . Cricket World Cup has been won by black,brown and white majority countries
@@neilgovender7450eng play mostly day games.
Just like how F1 is set for the UK and EU market
The misinformation here is appalling. Its not just TV market, it digital market too. Can't ignore that.
Sour Grapes Steve, where were your complaints when Global Tournaments like the 2014 FIFA World Cup in Brazil were scheduled around the European TV Market?
If 80% of the audience is from one region it’s obvious they will schedule it for them 😂😂
It's universal rule GAME GOES WHERE MONEY IS and EPL , UEFA , LA LIGA all are played conveniently SLOT for major revenue audience.
It's not done so for bcci or Indian team. It's for the broadcasters to make money and when they're paying top bucks they're entitled to their demands. It's that money that's funding all the associate nations. So if you want matches to suit uk time, be ok with playing an 8 team WC
Im confused - the T20 matches involving India air at 8:30 pm India Time, which is 4pm BST. What exactly is the problem with this timing?
I think they are complaining because the players have to play in the morning
@@physco4641 I just checked to get a sense of this, in 1986 the Football WC was played in searing afternoon heat and high altitude of Mexico City to accomodate TV Schedules. This was not uncommon practice. The global popularity of football allows more consideration these days as the viewership is more evenly dividy
*divided
Boyo, it’s simple…..We pay , you dance for us
Then ask your country's broadcasters to pay the most. Its a money controlled sport industry. If mancity, chelsea, and epl clubs spent the most money and get the best broadcast deals from sky bt and amazon instead of league 1 and championship clubs its not an issue but when asian countries do it its an issue😂
Doesn’t seem to be particularly well marketed either. Where I am (UK) there aren’t any highlights on CZcams, which is unlike pretty much every major sport out there.
ICC seem to be way behind when it comes to things like this.
Sorry mate but it’s funny that you think that the ICC aren’t smart enough to put highlights on CZcams. They aren’t behind 😂😂. For the 2019 World Cup, we got plenty of highlights on CZcams. They don’t put it on CZcams ON PURPOSE. They seek to get revenue and sell the highlights to different sports channels. Think like a businessman mate.
@@TheDPgamer That is why cricket will never be spread to a global fanbase. ICC is worried about revenue and not about growing the game
@@bhyproductions6990who is sponsoring growth?
@@TheDPgamer5 min highlights for even banger of the matches. and we don't yet have 2015 official highlights. and 9 min highlights for some of 2023 world cup matches and that's about it. I wanted to watch 2003, 2007, and many old world cup matches in long form highlights, like say 45 mins long, but could not. ICC is scheduling tourneys like there's no tomorrow, without looking at outfields or pitches or stadiums and hosts being properly prepared for the tournaments, we will surely see the peak clownery next year in champions trophy. full form of ICC should be International Council for C-nting cricket. when English or Australians had upperhand, they were a suck off to them, now they're a suck off to BCCI/revenue. (still their love for English hasn't changed much either)
Indians truly do love watching cricket. There were 8k watching the Charlotte Edwards cup final on CZcams yesterday and from the looks of the message board most of them were from India.
Thats what happened when majority revenue comes from single nation.
Which is why the game must be encouraged v to expand
Exactly. This 20 team wc is a good step though@@drep9028
@@drep9028 What do you mean?
@@zakirabbastalukdar2888 expansion of the game...and I mean proper expansion, ensures that majority of the revenue is more spread. It's not healthy for cricket's source of revenue to be sooo dependent on one nation
@@drep9028same thing happens with football. Its not a cricket thing.
Disney havent paid a massive sum to broadcast matches when the subcontinent is fast asleep. England and Australia especiallly benefit from the sale of ICC rights. So, stop whinging
Let's talk about all England games being held only in two countries that English tourists frequent .. they did the least amount of travelling
No let’s talk about India already knowing where their semi final will be played 👂🏻
OMG! You got us! What a huge cheater we are!! For fucj's sake. Grow up. What cry babies. Professional cricketers playing in the World Cup and you're crying about the time of the game! Peak White entitlement whining...OMG.
@@Mister_H. England knows where WTC Final will be played. Why haven’t they qualified for one yet. 😏
@@Mister_H. Cant wait for the english team to crap the bed like the 50 overs game against india.
@@Mister_H.Because this is totally fixed by Indian broadcasters and administration, how well they knew months ago (February this year) that India is winning this world cup 🙄 revealed by Jai Shah, this is scripted like IPL just don't play semis and finals give them trophy 🏆 don't waste time of England and South African supporters😥 they don't know there is cheating going on.
Steve H. is a crying girl
Stop crying ffs 😅😅😅
Wonderful analysis Harmison. It took you until 2 days before the Semi Finals to decipher that India owns cricket. Absolutely the best analytical skills I have ever seen
This is perfect scripting by Indian management 👏 as they know they are going to face on 27 at semis 🙄, and most important is they have planned for Australia exit by joining hands with Afghanistan, Afghanistan haven't beat India in this world cup but thrashing every other strong team (NZ, Pak, Aus,) how surprising is they couldn't beat India🤔.. cheating is done to avoid facing Australia in the finals, my opinion is just don't play semis and finals, give India trophy 🏆, don't waste time of other team supporters they are also there for their team support, South Africa is more deserving than India, England also playing good and deserving to win this world cup. But thankyou so much icc for displaying of IPL a scripted tournament in world cup 👏👏
@@SaSh526so you are saying that India fixed all these matches?
@@SaSh526ganja ganja
Harmison even tho that maybe true . Caribbean t20 cricket generally gets the most support at night where it comes to life . day games will be empty and then u guys will complain why are the stadiums empty . some islands dont have the leisure of filling up at any random time due to the populations . only trinidad , Jamaica and maybe Barbados can (English and other tourists inc) . with that I also think icc messed up with the pricing , venue support , placing a wc in the rainy season and a few other things
The indian matches in group stages starting at 8pm ist and semi final at 6am ist. How is this benefitting indian market?
Anytime playing in usa and caribbean is always going to be a timezone issue for eastern countries 🤷♂️
All games should be according to the windies schedule
Every team has to face a set of pros and cons in this tournament only 2 team played completely in West Indies where it actually matters which England and Australia they got used to conditions very well, on the other most of the teams have play in US especially New York where even the average bowler could mess up top bowlers.
Alteast for the fast 5-7 years you can definitively say that every ICC tourney has been made in advantage of India...and the lads still don't have a trophy since 2013...it's really hilarious actually
Exactly. India get the most comfortable scheduling yet they can't win when it matters. I remember during the 2023 world cup and 2019 world cup, they had the most time between matches and had the easiest travel schedule.
@@mohitoBhau5499loll in 2023 they had to travel from one place to other after every match.. they played all their games in all different venues..
@@jatinladda186 yes, but they had ample time to travel and rest between matches. There's fixing before ICC tournaments to have India play big matches on Sunday. No sport does that. Look at football.
So who would pay the companies? Steve harmison? Y these PPL act as if they don't know anything other than cricket in the world? There is sth called comnerce
Is there any other market watching cricket? One couldn't tell. Harmy is complaining about the inconvenience to himself. Tough krumbles. Stop whining.
Why do you did all WTC finals were organised in England? Is Cricket being played to please British cricket fans?
And Liverpool fc have early kick off more than any other team, and EPL does not give a damn.
Everything happens what BCCI want thats what ruined cricket. They knew india always wins in group stages so they make ind vs aus earlier so it will create less chances that aus meet them in semi or final. Secondly, It's not a coincidence that india already played 2-3 games on the particular ground where they will play pak and pak havnt played on that ground, even one match. Thirdly, look at the venues india playing against the teams that dsnt have the advantage as india
It makes sense, of course; the matches will be scheduled in accordance with South Asian time zones as India currently provides the majority of the ICC's sponsorship and income.
Watch the euros and stop crying .Oh wait. You can’t .
Last 2 wtc played in UK even when they not in final.
Gee really it's about the Indian population, wow what a revelation, I am so priviliged to be blessed with this new knowledge. 800 million followers compared to less than 5 million in Ausd, Eng, RSA etc. makes sense.
It's a WC organised at 7 venues in 7 independent countries with different time zones. Ultimately the best side will win. Even if every match was at prime time in the UK, very few people would be watching.
Since when do you start a T20 at 10.30 am
Have some kind of sensible conversation does anyone from india said that when you guys won 2019 wc when both teams get tie icc announced you guys as champion based on number of boundaries
Don't be so arrogant you have to respect decision of icc
Nothing wrong Indian subcontinent is the major contributor to icc revenue
I hope whatever will happen on Thursday match between India and England everyone will be happy to see desired result
I would say for now it's 40:60 towards England as you guys are defending champion
I hope India wins but let's see 🇮🇳🏆
This podcast has always been salty about the rise of India into a global cricketing giant...!!!!!
because indians are ripping apart the global game.
As an Indian i don't think so but this criticism on timing was a silly one
@@Playerone1287he will not sh*g you
@@Playerone1287you should !! That's how they create a narrative to show how India is flexing ther power unfairly ! Even if India knew beforehand that they were gonna play in that venue so what ? India played most of their matches in the USA and only 3 matches in West Indies , while the rest of the teams got to experience a variety of venues... And both England and India have not played in this venue, So what unfair advantage r India gaining? Why the big fuss ?
Alas ! England finished on Top after defeating SA in Super 8😂😂
half the matches were at 6am IST. including the semifinals. so what "set up for us indians"?. i wanna know if you've addressed whom the 6am matches favour..........
So if ind and afg gets in final then whole southasian viewers gonna watch in 6 am?
I dont care, dont remember seeing so many tight games in a tournement before. 280 plays 150 etc is boring as hell.
no dude we r not gonna watch if it is goin to start at 6 AM..
We perform great in other sports too
Cricket is a obsession
India have a fab bowling line up. Case in point to bring in Will Jacks.
Just one Salty.. m..f#..r…
How does it affect anything. Both teams are playing the same time lol
7 in the morning, some of those games
Loud mouth was the same during the test in India.
Fookof harmiCun.... He wants to be ICC chairman it seems and will call the scheduling from his Sofa!!
Matches in india are starting at 6 in thr dawn
Timings are set for the people who are watching and making cricket successful business so just stop crying if you want to change timings start watching more instead of complaining
See where cricket would be would be without the Indian market. Harmison would have a lot less work for starters.
i don't like the empty stands either
Then tell other boards to work hard and bring in money on table. If one board is doing all the work to bring money then those broadcasters and advertising company will do things accordingly. So stop this hypocrisy and be practical
Yeah go back to 90s & organise however u want.
At the end of the day the ICC and india shenanigans are not new its been hsppening for years so england must go in with the mindset of yes their underdogs but play hard solid cricket for 40 overs and keep in the back of their minds that if they pressure india and go into the game with a fearless nothing to lose attitude then maybe just maybe india buckle under tremendous pressure india may say they are fearless cricketers but with the weight of 17 barren years weighing heavy on their shoulders this game has far more on it for india than it does england who have scraped through and should see this as a free hit if i was jos buttler this is what i would be telling the 11
He just sound whiny like westerners at the airport cause theyre getting searched. Asia draws more revenue so naturally they will cater to them. I men india had to put up with the same thing when it wasnt them before. Ebgland have a good chance with jos butler i dont know if india can beat them
There people are forever whimpering. What about 1970s, 1980s and 1990s when everything was set to UK timings. No whimpering then because it suited you. Harmison is crying because there was no IPL during his time
Media pundits money ex players all under Indian payroll still choke in finals
Guys Indian broadcasters paid 3 billion dollars for the rights. Ofcourse they will cater to the audience from the subcontinent. Thank the Indian audience for effectively paying your salary. Without India you guys will be without a job and there won't be any T20 cricket world cup and cricket as a sport would be dead without the people of India who love the game and have kept it alive.
What should the ICC do if the only major market that happens to enjoy watching cricket is India?
Can you honestly say that more than a handful of the English or the Aussies are even aware that a world cup is going on?
Should the ICC focus on the 4 guys from England and Australia who'll probably watch the game if there is no football or on India where they know millions will watch it?
Always whinging
No one in england watches cricket anymore anyways. So it's okay
Can anybody here tell me who this Steve Harmison is🤔
Same old English. Always Crying.
Very short memory
India to West Indies: +9:30 hours
India to Australia: +4:30 hours
India to USA: +10:30 hours
West Indies to Australia: +14:00 hours
West Indies to USA: +1:00 hour
Australia to USA: +15:00 hours
What do you want? A time machine? How to manage time zones?
Stop Earths Rotation? Or Let ICC set up Two suns? Or 4?
Why so much of jealousy former Colonizers??
India generates 70% of revenue for the ICC. Cricket will probably die if India didn't play and watch cricket so cricket adminstrators are forced to pander to an Indian audience
English media and ex-English cricketers are some of the biggest whiners on the planet.
What nonsense topics u guys r discussing. When mind is filled with too much of entitlement this kind of thoughts comes in
Okay ! Let me put my Point here Tell me What amount your so called broadcaster Sky Sports Channel can afford to schedule a match at the ease of timing of your UK time. Don't they right then Just shut up and watch the world cup. Absolutely our Indian broadcaster can afford to pay as high as they can for this.
lol this guy must have been so disappointed to see English team schooled by India..
They made the English team look like grade cricketers lol
Will Jacks was in poor touch in IPL except for that one inning. Stopped watching after that, nobody does their homework these days before jumping on a mic.
Cry harder.
Great contribution to the conversation
Cry more
Stop cribbing about timing
Audience is India n Pakistan otherwise no viewership.
India beat England lovely see you all crying got full game with the rain breaks
Dude I don’t think anyone in England is even watching cricket so stop crying 😂
It is not to Indian advantage it is for ICC advantage to make money. Our players constantly suffering is sun, they should have got some night matches.
And ICC have not payed any attention to travel. How fans are going to travel to other stadiums. They are giving cold food to teams.
ICC is making all the money giving terrible pitches. We can’t say ICC favor India. They make money off Indians fans but don’t give anything in return or does not pay attention to comfort of Indian players and fans who are there to watch. See the ticket prices and hotels, travel fare
BLAME ICC not india. You are like Kapiest blaming victim is too attractive for him to do that.
English pundits. What a circus. Unfortunately England has a crap team accept it.
Guess what ! WTC final should be moved away from England ladies?
Well not really because lord's is the home of cricket the world's most iconic 5 day venue so it makes total sense its held in england especially seen as its the WTC final its supposed to be a showpiece event where do you want it to be held cuttack!!!!
Haha ..It's an English perception about lords and nobody else believes that . There are more iconic venues in the world and not just lords. It's a prefixing and the same has been done in the case of WC Semis and that's been cried about in English media. About cuttack , it doesn't really matter where you held the game as England always bites the dust everywhere.
@@lukehandley7930 MCBCSullemagga, I don't understand what problem you have got specifically with Cuttack City in India? Why you generalize and target that particular City?
Cry more! 😂
Simple economics - India generate most money so should be catered for
Hopefully india lose? Now what. Surely sa can beat india sometime
@@clintonjacobson3282 hahahahha butt hurt guy. India run the game and everyone falls in line. When BCCI barks the rest of the cricketing boards oblige
Hopefully india loose????? It's s game
Money can't make you win
How to destroy cricket 101
Problem.
The game can't be for ever one dimension
So what?
I don't even care if ICC is deliberately doing this for Indian audience.
Grapse are sour for sure .....go to airport to welcm your team .....u olways keep crying along with Ausies .....it is in your vains ...keeep cryng
Keep crying
I never like harmison as a FAST BOWLER but as a commentator and analyst , i find his views are fresh. Little bit unafraid to say things . he has that ian chappell blood
Cry me a river 😅😅
I thank harmison for talking against this, because usually cricketers around the world are afraid to talk anything against india or things related to it
Harmy is correct. Anyone on here disagreeing is just an entitled, biased Indian fanatic!
No bro I am an Indian fanatic but broadcasters and ICC have to make money, don't be silly
Timings are setup not just for indian fans but for entire South Asia fans including Pakistan Bangladesh srilanka Nepal as well
When everything was on English point of view everything was correct now table has turned
@@Playerone1287fuck the money. Have a fair contest. End of story.
GAME IS HEDGED Towards India. There is no fairness. Its all Business.
Cry more
Worst ICC tournament ever.
Yes💯
I disagree, it's been great, close games, upsets, drama
Lol !!! Always crying this harm guy. So sad. Cry more !!
Alas ! England finished on Top after defeating SA in Super 8😂😂
Stop crying ffs 😅😅😅