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Clash of the Titans - 4 Iowa's VS. Yamato & Musashi (Who Will Win?) War On The Sea
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Clash of the Titans - 4 Iowa's VS. Yamato & Musashi (Who Will Win?) War On The Sea
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Pretty much how it'd've gone in real life.
The Yamato-class had thicker armor plating, more displacement to take hits with, and more powerful guns of all kinds, but the Iowa-class had _harder_ armor plating, better-trained damage control teams, power rammer-loaded secondary gun mounts, far better fire control, better radar, and moved, IIRC, about 4-5 knots faster.
Radar fcs could be taken out of order by a failure or a lucky hit even at first Salvo...
5/38 wasnt a relevant gun in a bb. vs bb engagement... In fact yamato had better Anti ship seccondary guns with more Range and better ballistics.
The only real Iowa advantage was speed, but the inner configuration of deck armor ment that if it was hitted at waterline, the water was going to enter the ship despite armor effectiveness therefore making Iowa slower after every shot taken.
I'd say yamato was a better ship, but by the time the Iowa were built the usnavy had 10 modern Battleships packed with 16' guns (+3 colorados) against 2 yamatos and Nagato (Mutsu was gone by 1944).
It was not a fair fight by no means
@@jotabe1984 The fact you didn't mention the iowas can shoot over the horizion unlike the yamaoto that relies on seeing its enemies and much more shows how you are cherry picking and a obvious fanboy the iowa was the far better ship
16 Inch super heavy shell, cannot be ignored, when it hits.
@@jotabe1984 I mean, you can't really just discount US Navy damage control - which is legendary when it comes to WW2 - armor quality, or gyrostabilized guns (which the US was so good at building that the Sherman tank had a primitive stabilizer) and to automatically assume radar FCS gets taken out in the first salvo is just silly. Even then four Iowas outshoot two Yamatos by weight of fire alone, although I agree that in an unlikely 1v1 the Yamato has a far better chance if the Iowa's radar is shot out.
@@jotabe1984近代化されて改築されたアイオワと第二次世界大戦の船を比べないでください
Well, it's 36 16" guns and 4 targets vs 18 18.1" guns and 2 targets. In this case, the Americans brought a lot more firepower to the table. The faster Iowas also dictate the terms of engagement, even if the Yamatos wanted to run they'd still be screwed. Fun to watch nonetheless.
4 vs 2 isn't a fair fight, of course the Iowas are going to win. They got twice as many guns combined. If he wants to test ship vs ship he should do a 1 vs 1 or I would even be happy with a 2 vs 2 but not a damn 2 vs 4 the Yamatos literally have no chance
@@MrYolo-bw9bd
War isn't a fair fight. In fact, if you're fighting a war faily you're doing it wrong. This is a battle of the last generation of battleships for both nations, it's not supposed to be fair. Blame Japan for not finishing the other two planed Yamatos.
@@177SCmaro facts. Who the hell thinks wars are fought fairly. 😂😂😂
@@Berserker_4517 for one, I'm not talking about war I'm talking about if he wants to do a 1v1 scenario he should have 1 Yamato vs 1 Iowa to see how the ships fair against eachother without the addition of more ships. At what part in my post did I say I was talking about war? I know war isn't a fair fight but this isn't war it is a what if situation and i think it would be best to see a 1 v 1 to test each ships strengths and which ship "really" would win or have the edge
Game is literally called war at sea
In every single area of comparison except maximum speed and remote power control- broadside weight, bursting charge size and type, shell danger space, armor protection, and gunnery accuracy (comprising both range and bearing accuracy and shell dispersion), the Yamatos held a clear advantage over the Iowas. The marginal advantage which the U.S. Navy's Mark 8 Radar Range Keeper held in range accuracy over the Imperial Navy's Type 98 Fire Control System and their Type 22 Mod 4 Radar (approximately 40 and 70 yards respectively) was more than offset by the significant shell dispersion of the Iowas over the Yamatos (1.9% vs. 1.3% or range for a nine- gun salvo). Remote power control was the one area which might have aided the Iowas greatly in such an engagement- but the U.S. Navy never developed specific tactics to utilize this advantage during WW2. Historical performance of these two classes' gunnery was night- and- day- with none of the Iowas registering a main battery hit on any vessel of destroyer size or larger during WW2, while Yamayo obtained multiple 1st- salvo hits at over 20,000 yards off Samar (one of which was aimed solely by the ship's supposedly inferior Type 22 Radar).
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To anyone who's confused
Both Yamato and Musashi, before leyte gulf, got enhanced AA with the removal of the wing mounted/side mounted 6 inch turrets which themselves were from cruisers which had main battery upgrades
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Yamato did have more of a AA compliment then musashi when musashi sunk, but Musashis sinking helped the US learn what tactic to use against Yamato
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The variant used for Musashi is the OG Yamato class design before the AA upgrade, Musashi in wows got that build as a, well, nerf, so she can be put at a lower tier, the downgrade to their base form is understandable in musashis case in wows
Loved this thank you! This deserves way more views
Honestly really enjoying these vids.
I don't know how much of a threat the Imperial Guatemalan Navy was in WW2.
Amazing video! So much explosions and drama! Could make an actual movie on this battle!
Absolutely loved this! The “what if” factor in these types of videos just takes your imagination to a whole new level! Endless possibilities, brother!
I feel like it depends on the strategy
The Iowa's could fire at a distance since the shells can go 24 miles, Not to mention they have better Damage Control, Plus better Radar, And were faster at 32 Knots (35.2 New Jersey)
However Yamato and Musashi are heavily armored and weigh more, plus they could have both went for Iowa as she didn’t have as much armor liker her 3 sisters
But I just like both Class of Battleships in general and don’t really bother comparing on which one is better than the other
I loved this video peek well done 👍
Ngl I'm enjoying this wacky videos 🤓
That was fun! New sub here! I'd love to see some modern fighters bomb the Yamato.. or missile strike it with harpoons, etc..
Let’s go John. New WOS dropping this week.
How did you arrange this and how do you focus in on these ships if your not in the game? Please explain this.I would really like to know.Thanks and keep up the good work.
I believe the Iowa have been added in game in a somewhat recent update
the second Yamato class you highlighted was Yamato. Yamato herself has more secondary battery guns and AA than her sister.
Do it again but use 2 bizmarck/2 tirpitz against 4 Iowa's.
What did the Bismarks ever do to you?
Just for the lulz: All 12 Standard-type battleships, against... IDK, both Yamatos? Every Japanese battleship? I've always felt that the Standard-type represented the pinnacle of battleship design - not because they were the best battleships individually, but because there were a fricking dozen of them and they could all operate as a single, coherent battle line.
The yamatos vs Iowas. the battle of battleships.
edit: also I think that making it a 2 vs 4 is already clear
Very interesting.
1:13 you can tell them apart by the way the secondaries are arranged
If only you could do this with subscribers in wowsl…
One of the ways I tell them apart is that Yamato has the bigger aa suite on her port and starboard side and she also only has two 150s behind the front and rear turrets, musashi doesn’t have any side aa suites instead she has 4 of the 150 turrets, two behind the guns and the one on the port side and one on the starboard
Musashi also got an improved AA suite like Yamato. This isn’t WOWS.
Imperial giapanese navy ? Ign? It must be ijn
Can you do a 1v1 between Iowa and yomato since that almost happened
Why use 4 American ships not just 2
Can we do Montana vs yamy?
4 hoods v 4 Bismarck's
Don't be so sure that America allways wins
Iowa class 2 vs 2, Iowa for the win, yamato's can't hit anything.
...will one match be enough?...
Lmao L on the Yammy
Do a 1v1, they were both the premier battleships of each country. Let's see who's the best. Orrrr can America only win when they get an advantage lolz
The Yamato class was designed to engage multiple U.S. battleships at the same time in a vain attempt to make up for their industrial inferiority. The planned Montana class would also have blown the Yamatos out of the water but were canceled to free up more shipyard capacity for aircraft carriers.
Why do you always appear to be sweating whenever you appear in a video? Are you feeling ok?
He just has to much back lighting and he has no background that has color in it so the really bright back lighting is making him appear sweaty you see it too with other content creator's who are trying to figure out their whole lighting situation
Yeah, 2 fast battleships were always going to struggle against 4, especially at 10k yards. I would say making the starting distance around 25-20k will make it more reasonable, assuming the AI doesn't try to run.
@@MrYolo-bw9bd I just think there needs to be more breathing room for the each side.
This is nowhere near as uneven as you imagine. The Iowas were little more than slightly better armored, slightly better armed and faster versions of the South Dakotas. Their immunity zones vs. the 18.1" gun were small (half that of the Yamatos). Their advantage in fire control radar was weather- related and their shell dispersion was half again as high as that of the Yamatos. They were originally designed to catch and destroy the Kongos.
@@manilajohn0182 I know all that. But ships in surface combat can very quickly be rendered combat ineffective, especially under large and sustained amounts of fire.
@@adamtruong1759 At long range (22,000- 26,000 yards), that's not the case. The possibility of hits at that range is actually low. The occasional hit would matter far more. In this case, the Iowas were far more vulnerable than the Iowas
Jeez does anyone have any sympathy for the sisters of japan these days or what?...
That is a really good question.
What
I mean really everyone is just hands down on the american side these days and don't even seem to care that yamato truly is the pinnacle of all battleships ... the iowa's may have accuracy and all but the yamato's were built by blood " sweat and tears as it took a miracle to get them out to sea only to be backhanded by uncle sam.
I'm just a british carrier that everyone looks down upon in azur lane but i still know respect and honor when i see it.
'Never going to have an American platform model the Iowas' armor as anything but invulnerable. It's essentially clickbait.