Canucks fans are not happy about this AT ALL...
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- čas přidán 23. 04. 2024
- the Vancouver Canucks take defeat to the Nashville Predators in game 2 by a score of 4-1, Elias Pettersson had a really tough game but i know he can bounce back, Dakota Joshua was close, Nikita Zadorov scored a nice goal, it was a game that could have gone either way. Casey DeSmith filled in for an injured Thatcher Demko as well!
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It's ONE loss. We're still in this. Go Canucks Go!
GO CANUCKS GO! (My friend pointed out the bus today and asked why it was painted green, I said for the Canucks. HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT THE CANUCKS WERER!!!!!! Anyway) GO CANUCKS GO
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WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Zadorov had a heck of a game
Unlucky game but Petey gotta be better 😭
Frustrating seeing petey get paid 11.5
While he plays like that..
He is not the right star 4 Canucks. He needs to go back to hockey school or take a penalty Cut.
Petey looks like he wants to go on vacation. Those were golf swings.
Petterson-who?
You're committed to him for the next 8 years to be the Canucks leader, but is he? If he's not, the "real" leader will cost you $13 bills atleast.
Swedes are soft these days
Remember
2011 went W, L, W, W, L, W Vs the predators so Corss your fingers it goes the same.
Hope so! Glad to see a larger amount of the fanbase has kept their hope in this team
I hope the same thing doesn’t happen in the finals
Bro got it right
I'm not a coach, I'm a fan, but I want to see Blueger back with Dak and Garland. I like Lindholm but I think Blueger plays a more grittier game and can chase after pucks better and that third line will be great. Hoglander has been pretty quiet and unnoticeable recently. I want to see him with Miller and have Boeser and Lindy with Petterson.
I was never a big Myers fan, but i gotta say he played pretty amazing in game 1 and his absence in game 2 was noticed. Please please please scratch Juulsen. I do not know why people don't see how much of a liability he is in crucial moments of the games.
As for goalies... I don't know man. I was feel like every puck thrown at Casey is gonna go in. I'd feel more comfortable with Silovs. But tbh, the loss of Demko has really deflated my mood.
I've been saying this all season: Juulsen is so damn overrated. 2 penalties and leaving forsberg unmarked for the 2-0 goal? cmon man
Those penalties were not penalties, the goal against was bad but the guys couldn't buy a goal last night. So many close posts or missed open nets.
Still confused why was MYERS SCRATCHED Lets scratch Patty.
@@chrisgoodings4450 : I don't know if you noticed, but if the Canucks have a couple of powerplays without the other team getting one, the ref will look for any weak sauce excuse to call one on the Canucks... and you're right, those penalties were not even penalties.
@seanmcdonnell2649 of course I know this, but they weren't even close to a call. The interference call was absolute garbage. Weak call or not that shit was embarrassing to call that. Meanwhile garland gets tripped in the o zone no call, lindholm is grabbed and held in the o zone in the 3rd no call. Wasn't the reason they lost but my God call a good game for once.
@@chrisgoodings4450 : hard to believe the preds have had eight power plays to the canucks six.... and the canucks have had most of the pressure, so you would think it would be about even or in favour of the canucks... i swear the refs hate the canucks... i know all fans say this about the refs, but those stats kind of show the calls haven't been fair in the first two games.
Forget the open net chance, you're right, guys are going to miss shots.. keyword being shots. Pete's earlier opportunity, with Saros down and lunging, resulted in no shot and that drives me insane. If the Preds are going to block shots, then forget the fancy muffin throws, we need big shots that put them at risk at dropping affective man coverage if they get hurt. Ryan McDonagh's blocked shot on Miller is a perfect example of making their players less effective after blocking big shots.
Agreed. If I was Toch, id "advise" the team to start shooting higher off the ice. Nashville will stop being as aggressive on blocked shots
exactly. let those 90+mph clappers fly high
Exactly! He passed it on a semi open net. Like COME ON
The worst thing is that we all know if Demko was in net, they only get the one goal at the start of the game. DeSmith looked really nervous out there. He was over playing everything. He came off the post too early for the forsburg goal and gave up that a really bad rebound.
They don't get that goal, that read on the play was bad. No real reason for him to commit so hard to the left side like that. They outplayed the preds by a wide margin they just got there chances and scored and we couldn't get a bounce at all.
I've been called a "hater" for the past 2 months for pointing out the obvious that Pettersson needs to wake up. He can barely make a pass out there, I've never seen anything like this
Wtf is wrong with him. Such a bad player.
You think he cares, he's got the big check and can relax.
And you fans are paying for it🤣🤣
He just isnt mentally in the game. He looks like hes got brain fog...casually just throwing pucks around without even looking. Its like hes playing to show off meanwhile he makes a terrible mistake
The effort is not there either. Dude won’t even take a hit to make the right play. What a waste
@@uranusismightybig5111exactly
It's Petey's first taste of real playoff hockey. Of course he's going to be nervous and gripping the stick tightly. Toccett's got to talk to him and get him to relax. Play with intensity, but relax. Plenty more hockey to be played. Every sports media predicted this series would go the distance, so Vancouver media, and fans, have to calm their mammory glands. Canucks out shot, and out worked, the Preds. Puck luck is a thing, and they just got bit. But they stuck through and played a hell of a game.
Bro the preds need to be investigated for cheating they literally had 6 goalies on ice the entire time
That description is unironically not even false for that 3rd period 😂 god I can’t stand that style of play to protect a lead.
@@poejavelski148 The style of play of playing defensively and safe?
@@joshuakersey3897 No, it’s not even playing it safe. I can’t tell you how many times I have seen a team fumble trying to protect a 1 or 2 goal lead because they just constantly dump it down to waste time, but give the opponent puck possession the entire period. It works sometimes like in game 2, but there are many instances where a team is just better off continuing with their 1st and 2nd period strategies, aka still trying to score.
Pettersson’s contract was the Kiss of Death. Right now I’d rather see the chaos Giraffe on the ice. Petey has been useless the back half of this season and the first two games of the playoffs.
Petey said he wanted to wait until the end of the season to deal with his contract, I guess management should have respected that.
Yeah i hope he drags the whole team down and just laughs at you girl fans as he takes that fat check😂
@@uranusismightybig5111 Girl fan? Lol. I haven’t been a girl for over 60 years, dear. I’m even older than the Canucks! Thanks for that chuckle. 😄
@@karenfindlay4185 i aim to please, little miss Karen😉
Such a frustrating game especially with the Canucks ridiculous possession time and shot attempts. Sometimes the bounces just don’t go our way. I don’t think Nashville is playing a sustainable game tho their guys had to be black and blue after last night with all their blocked shots. Pumped for game 3 I bet the boys come out with something to prove!
I've honestly never seen a team so committed to throwing themselves in front of pucks before. I'll give them credit as they wanted it more... but this game also illustrates the talent difference between our clubs and I'm happy to see that it's Vancouver that's constantly pushing the play. I agree that there is no way that game that Nashville played is sustainable, and sooner or later we're going to get the bounces going our way. Even without Demko, I still really like our chances.
GO CANUCKS GO WE ARE GETTING BACK NEXT GAME I CAN FEEL IT KEEP THE GOOD ENERGY
I think a few too many fans are overreacting. We outplayed Nashville all night, they had 16 frickin' shots. Lol. A couple unlucky posts, Petey fumbling the open net, and one freak bounce for Nashville early. If even just Petey scores that 1-1 goal it's a completely different game. The Preds went full LA Kings. Got the lead, and just played sacrificial hockey. Block everything. The key is not to get scored on early. I don't blame DeSmith for that goal, but he did slightly over commit to the left.
And I don't know what's going on with the powerplay. But it is ugly. I think Tocchet runs the powerplay, he might need to reach out to someone or defer or something. Cause it's never been this ugly. The setup is weird. It feels like we have 2 net front players. Trying to find shooting lanes when as many as 4 players are crowding the middle is a nightmare. Especially with Petey being gun shy. I think it also sucks cause it's just Hughes and Miller playing pass for a minute before one of them either misses the net or shoots at a defender. Or pass to Petey and he gets too scared to shoot so he sends it back to Hughes.
petey is the opposite of clutch. canucks mgmt should've given what petey wanted and re-signed him after the season so they could witness this tragedy and offer him a bag of pucks. 11.5 will go down as one of the worst contracts ever..... u cant win with this toothpick
Hope demko has a speedy recovery. We had a ton of big chances but nothing worked out, it is what it is.
190k a week is what Petterson makes …. And not one general manager would trade for him anyone of equal pay and talent
He’s been awful for months
Soft as butter
Pushed off the puck
Folds like a cheap tent when touched
The Canucks needed this loss badly. They were lucky in game one I have to say it they needed this kind of loss to bring them back down to earth to make them realize exactly the reality and the gravity of the situation they’re in. They’ve got a back up goalie now and against team that won 21 of it last 29 games. This was the perfect loss. The Canucks needed to learn from they needed their weaknesses exposed early in the playoffs, not late in the playoffs so they can work on them and come back strong in game three I knew they were gonna lose and I’m glad they did
As a Canucks fan where Saros is a hometown hero I can't even tell the last time I've been this confused, and sad, and angry, and....
Excellent Recap.
Thank you!
EP40 lost Kuzmenko and got no replacement. He’s got 4th liners for wingers now. What’s he supposed to do in that situation. This is Tocchett/management fault.
Good thing Petey signed before he went to trash.
If he waited until after the season he wouldn't even be able to demand half of what he got.
that's on mgmt for not waiting.... big mistake... actually its looking like its going to be a disaster now
@@preslim84 bro hes in a slump... hes shown us that hes a top player just fucking chill and wait. Guarantee if he scores everyone here whos shitting on him will be on his dick
It's so obvious that it's his confidence that has taken a beating. Petey, looking confused and scared on the ice. Zero creativity, not involved in anything on the ice except miscues and turnovers. The question is what has really happened? One would like to know how Petey and Tocchet talk. There is obviously something bothering Pettersson, injury? private life? The team? However, I thought he looked way sharper tonight so lets hope he is getting his confidence back. Without Demko and Petey not producing, this team will not go far in the playoffs.
Nearly 100 million dollars wasted on a player that should be in the SHL
how was he this overrated for so long? he's a soft player with inflated PP stats... he's being exposed
@@preslim84 Because people thought the "bubble" was real playoffs. He's a BCHL level skater with NHL-allstar puck skill. When the shots aren't going in, he has no skating to fall back on, which causes a downward spiral in confidence. The very last 11m$ player I'd want to have in the playoffs.
@@ThatBigCactus Management pushing him into this contract is already looking like another mistake for rutherford and crew.
@@ThatBigCactus jesus christ calm down bro, he'll wake up
He’s been invisible since the all star game
That’s when Kuzmenko got traded. Coincidence?
It’s a best of 7 series. Now a best of 5. It ain’t over until the fat lady sings, as they say. Split in Nashville, come home big…and we’ll see.
@Chilliwackbcfun Didn’t say anything about dominating. What are you talking about? Illiterate much?
@Chilliwackbcfun no one said shit about dominating but now that you bring it up id definetly say we dominated the second half of the game... a couple bounces go our way and its a completely different hockey game. We'll see how tmrw goes.
@@prodbysebzy absolutely! If Petey scores: tie game. If Joshua buries his great chance: different game. I’m pretty sure that after all the shots the Preds players blocked last game, they’ll be twitching and flinching and the Canucks players will take advantage.
They can't give Forsberg that much time and space alone, he's way too good. Nucks need to tighten things up or they will get shredded
Someone take Petey’s xbox away
Or give him Kuzmenko back.
The Canucks powerplay has been near the bottom of the league since the allstar break. I guess there was some hope that it would change when the playoffs started, but so far it hasn't.... zero for six. They won't win unless they can score on the PP. And a big part of why they're not scoring is Pettersson. His accuracy is brutal. We got a eleven million dollar play with no confidence right now... what happened to him? I hope he finds his game soon.
A week or two ago RT suggested "there's a thing he's working through". Perhaps injured.
@@richardwanbon3087 : well, maybe that's a possibility, and if it is, I wonder why he was playing the last week of the season... they should have rested him. and if he continues like this, perhaps taking him out of the lineup.
What I’m wondering is where was petey post game interviews? Not only is he getting paid 11 million for doing nothing but he is the alternate captain that needs to be held accountable. We could’ve been up 2-0 if this man played like he’s getting paid to do. If I was his teammate I would be livid to know someone is being paid almost 5x more than me for doing nothing
if you were his teammate you would understand that slumps are a thing and shitting on him will do nothing but make him less confident. He just needs a good game to get back on his feet
he needs to shorten his stick a couple inches, likes it long for extra whip when shooting but its effecting his passing and shooting accuracy
Predators won’t be able to walk if they keep playing that style of hockey, it’ll eventually get to them. Canucks overall were the better team. Pettersson needs to step up simply said. Reset and be ready for game 3.
Who cares what the fans think! Let the players work it out. Most of the players are young. Give them a break man.
Textbook playoff victory on the road by the Preds. They blocked a ton of shots and took advantage of their chances. Very happy with the way the Canucks are playing sans Petey and Jewel. They had a rough night.
I think the Canucks work ethic was very good over all. Doesn't help when DeSmith is nervous and won't stay square with the net and has a hard time controlling rebounds. Can't take anything away from Nashville's goalie.. he was very good and lucky. Canucks were playing one dimensional on power plays.. that needs a tune up. It was a good game and fun to watch non the less.
Don't cheer Desmith- it distracts him.😢
Man, that was unfortunate.
The Canucks had alot of changes to score against the Nashville. The Canucks are better then the Nashville we can win easily. The Canucks should win the two road games in Nashville & come home win & knock out Nashville from the playoffs.
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🙄🙄🙄delusional much ?
2014 Price in 2024 Thatcher Demko, they got to him before the season ended , and the order was given out to crash the net again .Demko is not 100 percent. Thatcher Demko and the Vancouver Canucks were going to win it all this year . But the league had to find out how to derail this club and making a scapegoat out of who and why . Now the NHL can follow the protocol on the rest of the Canadian squads to eliminate one by one , having a fairytale ending of a rematch of last year's playoff final .
These guys lost a single game, you are playing a much worse team. Ill admit i enjoy watching the two canadian team fan bases cry to the heavens this morning but yikes. Admit gg and move on. The canucks are not going to get the uno reverse car and get swept the next three games. Not going to happen. They just need to settle into their game and crack down on defense. Preds have the tenacity to prove why they are here, dont sleep on em.
We all knew Petterson would dry up in the post season, he was very streaky during the regular season and he has zero physical presence. Not a very good formula for success in the postseason imo. This team is supposed to be deep so the fact petterson is not showing up is not really a great excuse for losing games. Poor team effort? Oh yea definitely the reason. Look at the turnovers this game for reference. .
we dont have an NHL goalie, 11m man seems like a league minimum player rn nah this is bad.
Desmith wasn't too bad yesterday it was the team especially I hate to say it Pettersson that blew this game.
Petey is heaping trash. We need to start booing his poor performance.
this game was no different than game 1 other than the fact we couldnt bury those goals. It's 1 game and you guys are shitty fans. There's a reason why you're commenting from the peanut gallery.
@@RC30018 he was terrible. the first and 3rd goals were both awful.
hes not an 11m man yet. are you unaware of this?
No words.
I agree with this analysis
Thank you!
Nashville 30 block shot to Canucks 8
Petterson has unfortunately been a joke since the latter half of the season... he can't score on the other goalie so he deicdes to score on our own goalie in stead for the 3rd Pred's Goal. DeSmith/goaltending is not the issue right now... its the lack of scoring. Although Kuz was a defensive liability, I wonder how much they really miss his offence, especially on the power play
petterson wanted to be on a winning team... but now you have to ask if he deserves to be on a winning team. gotta do your part
Canucks should have traded Pettersson and Lindholm when they had the chance
Little, big, mistakes starting with Hughes stumbling behind his goal leading to first Preds goal. Gotta’ stop giving up the puck in their own zone. Ditto for Pettersson. Low performance in game from Boeser.
Glad Myers only missed with flu bug.
Ya, Hughes can wheel, which helps. So can Garland. Garland was less effective out front of Preds net. His ability to “wheel” around on end boards has yielded great assists.
It was a good game. If Nucks can clean up those often unforced errors and keep up the intensity the goals will come. Oh, and even the “big” named boys have to produce.
Lows and highs happen DEsmith will bounce back This is playoffs not regular season lets go Petterson is Looking faster at least he got some more shots He just needs confidence on Defense and still to shoot more Cause those Give aways were terrible
It's 1-1 in the series. Sooo far from over. If you think it is then you're no fan, you're just a troll. As for the game, almost every guy on the team had a weak game. Miller looked progressively more frustrated as the game went on - shots not connecting, fanning on shots, fumbling; Hughes falling over, plays not connecting, mis-reading plays; They lost as a team. Still, Pettersson was the worst. He needs to step out of his head and just play - he's over-thinking everything then when a play falls off the rails he gets more hesitant and it escalates. Add to that some stupidly unlucky bounces and a top-notch defence from Nashville and the game was lost.
so many chances to score more than 1 goal this game. Just unfortunate and unlucky. Petey needs to step up
Emotionless automaton.
Quinn Hughes showing his Norris Trophy skating skills on Nashville's 1st and 4th goals......minus 2
2022/23: "I want to play for a winning team"
2024 playoffs: has more goals on his own team than points against the other.
At 2:08 of this video, it's Peterson that scores the goal, lol.
Don't believe me, go into your YT settings and change video playback speed to 0.25
Rewatch carefully, ...uhhuh....so Pettersson was not held off the score sheet after all!!
Guys, let's be real, ever since the All-Star Break Petterson has been really bad. Listless, lazy, unengaged, uncreative.
Peterson is 24, team could buy out his contract before he's 26 for 1/3rd of the cap hit.
Pettersson has disappeared since he signed the big contract and the All Star break……
I'd be interested to see if any other Canadian team playing well lose a key player to injury.
This might be an unpopular opinion but Petterson is crap. He’s a regular season player and I’ve seen nothing to show he’s capable of more than that. And big Z is our mvp. He’s scoring goals, locking down the front of the preds are afraid of his checks.
He was good in 2020 'playoffs'. He has proven he has elite talent, but, right now I agree with he is crap. I don't know what is wrong but it's definitely on the mental side.
He's been crap all season. He skates and moves like a bottom div beer leaguer
@@logan4730 wasn’t he the top scorer for half the season
If Petey worked like Garland he would be a top 5 player in the league
Canucks will live to regret giving him that contract.
honestly saros was just a brick wall saros was honestly nuts
Casey DeSmith needs to wake the hell up
Preds in 5?
No Demko, no powerplay, no star players. It's Joever already.
they are not ready for the big teams yet. great year future is looking hopeful.
Holy pessimism, its one loss! We dominated both games and deserved to win both! Series is not even halfway yet and we dont even have an elimination game to play for. Preds gotta win 3 more!! Against the canucks!! Easier said than done.
Petey's mind is @#%&. The dude thinks too much!
Canucks fans are known as the worst in the league for a reason. When we win it’s all sunshine and roses and when we lose it’s the end of the world. He’s a proven point per game number one center in this league. He’s played two real playoff games and yeah he hasn’t been good but all of a sudden he’s trash and we should trade him? Typical Canuck fan response.
As a hockey casual, what is the SOLUTION, if Nashville is just putting bodies infront of the net and blocking every shot? What are we suppose to do….?
5 on 5 the Canucks so far have dictated the play & been the better team. It's on special teams that Canucks have really struggled. Game 2 they had every opportunity to win that game but again the PP let the team down again. 4 PP attempts & barely any shots on goal. Petey is gripping that stick way too hard & the pressure has gotten to him. He needs to relax & let the game come to him cause the Canucks need him if they want to win the series especially with Demko out.
Petty needs to be benched or sternly talked to. And Podkolzin needs to be put back in. He's better the DiGuiseppe and or Michyev. Podkolzin was playing a playoff style when he was in during the regular season. Bench the softies for the rest of this series. We clearly don't need Petey out there unless he starts helping.
Demko worked all year to get us to the playoffs and now playoffs are here and can’t even play… sucks for him… petey on the other hand is scamming the team $11 million at this point.
Everything was going right early in the season. Now Demko is out and Pettersson is struggling. Things may just be evening out. At the beginning of the year, fans thought they'd be happy with a wildcard spot. Then all of a sudden, they were going to win it all, without looking at the analytics and advanced stats. Now, they suck. The truth is somewhere in between and I've felt that way all year. For the Canucks to win under normal circumstances, they need to play within their system, score timely goals and their goaltending has to routinely steal games. That's always been the reality since October. That doesn't mean they can't win with DeSmith or Silovs, but a lot of things have to go right for them. In reality, this should be a very even series, but if they don't get unreal saves and don't score, they're done. I'm not blaming DeSmtih whatsoever. When you only score once in a game, you don't deserve to win.
It’s going to be loud in SMASHVILLE
Not to rag on Casey, but jeeze, over plays the angle yet again, then doesn't cover his post and it's right over his shoulder. Missing some basic stuff here Casey. LET'S GOOOO!
Getting Patrick Laine vibes from Pettersson
Bench Pettey at this point
make that a scratch... he's detrimental to our success at this point
Petey won’t even take a hit to make the play during playoff hockey. Enough said.
Im sorry but these Swedes are so career concerned and take no chances. Petey post signing is absolute trash, unforgivable.
We are done with DeSmith
susi also had a tap in but the puck just came in too hot i guess
Hockey gods hate the Nucks.
Could have, would have, should have. That’s the way the cookie crumbles. Stop whining and let the team play. They are good and next time the breaks they had will pay off. There an old saying that if the dog hadn’t stop to take a crap he would have caught the rabbit.
Come on guys it’s one game most series are 1-1 right now. How would you play being thrown into action as a goalie getting no real notice and coming out to that arena with all that pressure you could tell he got more calm as the game went on it’s not the goalies fault he ended up playing good I’m not worried about the goalie situation at all yes it suck’s obviously but it’s the team in front that looked shaky and off I haven’t seen them like that much at all this season. Petty has sucked both games. When I seen Quinn fall 3 times just skating I knew something was off. We got this it’s one game they just need to relax fucking breathe and play there game.
Here is what Pettersson should do. He should stop collecting his salary until he plays like a 11.6 million guy.
Trade Hronek sign Zadorov. Pedersen off the power play play. Zadorov in front of the 2nd unit pp. Need to change it up.
Pettey bro..
Playoff hockey is a complete different animal. It’s for real hockey players and never meant for the soft and weak legged Petey. He wishes to get out of the round asap and hit the ⛳️ under the Florida ☀️ by next weekend. Oh, the $11M pay check comes in very soon too so he would be very busy counting 💴💴.
lol thats a real shame Canucks fans arent happy. A real shame
It seems no one likes to lift the puck, majority of the shots are low.
People need to stop dogpiling Casey. He's fine. You don't win hockey games with 1 goal. Casey wasn't the issue last night.
Vancouver would have aa better chance if they played with 6 players on the ice with no goalie.
Petey’s gotta lay off playing the late night video games.
Petterson needs to stop counting his money and show up and play......or prove again he's too small for the playoffs.
Noah was terrible in this game. Elias was equally as bad. The PP was a bit unlucky, but looked pretty bad. DeSmith got hung out to dry on the Forsberg goal and Petey coughed up the puck like an idiot on another goal. The team gets a goal out of Big Z and they do nothing else. Elias missed an open net. Look at any other top player on the right side who one-time goals, and they're all better at it than Elias. Most of the time, he has to stop the puck and stick handle it a bit because if he tried to one-time it he would miss it. Has he changed his stick flex or something. He can barely make contact 50 % of the time when he gets set up for a one timer. Now he likes to stop and let the goalie get set and surprise surprise the goalie and the opposing team either blocks it or stops it. He used to be such a threat, but lately he looks like he's over thinking the game. He keeps trying to make these highlight reel passes and its like just shoot the puck you friggin idiot. One time it. Trust your shot. For fu!@s sake he needs to hit practice ice and shoot one timers the whole time.
:(
Wasn't going to be a sweep anyhow.
True true
Petey needs to stop that BS dropping to his knees and looking to the sky. The game was still in play and he drops to his knees. Hughes standing behind the net with 17 seconds left. Just standing there with that glum look on his dopey face. Hughes needs to stop dropping the puck back into their own zone. Once in awhile yeah, but it wastes a lot of time. The other night he skated right to Nashville blue line and then passed the puck back past the centre line into their own zone. Yeah he can skate on a dime and pass while on the fly, but he wastes a lot of time and momentum while everyone is standing at the blue line waiting for him.
Some players are built for the playoffs, some aren’t, not to complicated.
ya u dont pay a guy 11.5 if he cant win in the playoffs, not complicated at all