That's the truth man . I had to cut down to 150 from 160 in 4 hours to wrestle a freshman that was a 3 time junior high state champ . My coach didn't want our 150 to get man handled and we had another solid 160 . I was so drained . It was a straight chess match the first round . Shoulder clinch fighting . I caught him with a Greco-Roman throw to pin . I caught a Charlie horse pinning him in my fucking calf . Had I been on the ground second round he probably would have got me from exhaustion and being dehydrated
Seth Williams ok. Were you running on your own time as well or just in practice? Cause either you’re not very bright or your coach didn’t know what he was doing. That’s way too much running. I did both cross country and wrestling in middle school and only wrestled in high school so I don’t know what it was like at that level but when I did it we ran maybe 2 or 3 miles 5 days a week including the actual meets. In wrestling it was I don’t even know how many miles in a bunch of different types of running exercises. Sprints, shuttles, Indian runs, intervals etc. my cardio was ridiculous.
Spencer Leon if your cross country practise only consists of running a few miles a day, your coach was retarded tbh. There is absolutely no reason you should be running more in wrestling than cross country.
My friends that called me gay for wrestling when we were in junior high and high school, are the ones that say they wish they had wrestled in junior high and high school.
Na tu I did both Swimming and Water Polo, and there was definitely a lot of gay moments, but even we all came to the consensus that wrestling had the big gay
Ugh brother I feel that, I wish I had wrestled. Now playing catch up with BJJ, asking politely for people to start spars on our feet rather than on knees/in guard
Wrestling is the most exhaustive activity I ever tried. Played fullback, have boxed 6 rounds more than once, have swam 2 miles a few times. None compares with trying to pin or my case just survive a wrestling workout. Those guys are in great shape.
Lol dude my senior year I was so out of shape I won 23 matches that year and I pinned every kid in those matches. I would always die after the second round. I wrestled like 3 full matches that year and lost them lol
would you rather fight a wrestler or fight a guy who can break metal poles & baseball bats with his kicks? all I know is i'd rather tap out than have my leg snapped in half
I grew up wrestling. I wrestled through highschool and most years, did freestyle after school practice. All my friends were wrestlers and even on the weekends we wrestled nonstop for hours and hours in the living room. It will teach humility and to break your own limits. Today, my son is wrestling in highschool. There has been no single greater mental challenge in my life than wrestling. Everything else is easy
Wrestling is definitely tough, but I disagree that wrestling makes "Everything else easy." Let's see you swim out into massive surf with no swim fins and no flotation device, and there's a strong rip current pulling over sharp coral reef. You'd get dragged into the impact zone and get smoked! No human is tougher than the ocean, my friend. I don't care how physically and mentally tough you are. The ocean will just swallow you up, and suck away all of your energy like you're insignificant.
Lets assume ufc was around back then. The issue is that he would be below the average skill level even if he had 2-3 years of training, so when it went to the ground he would be outwrestled even if he knew how. However, if he had wrestled for years on top of the boxing hed be a fuckin machine. Imagine his punching power in 4 oz gloves
So you musta started in high school lol same here fracturing my l1 and l5 in college now my son wrestles in high school did 2 mins bout died couldn’t really do anything after words and thought 19 years ago I’d do this all day then come home and practice on anyone that let me grueling sports but at 45 years old most the young bucks at work can’t keep up with me
Wrestling is the most dominant martial art. Even if you're a mediocre striker but have wrestling you can make it far. Wrestlers are a different breed. 6 out of the 8 UFC champs come from a wrestling background. That's mad.
Eeeeeeeh not exactly. That's just the time we're in. For example in women's division are there female wrestlers that are champions? DJ is pretty good. Max too.
karl jonson Exactly, if Joe and Din were talking about the most dominant art back in the days of the early UFC, they would be talking about BJJ. In my opinion every style has potential if it is drilled and practiced correctly. That’s why we see many wrestlers who have been in shape and drilling since they were little kids and much fewer from other styles as they haven’t got the same amount of mat time and competition that wrestling gives.
@@JJ-te3yf Just because they have wrestled in their teens doesn't mean that their mma base is wrestling . When you talk about Jones and TJ the first thing that comes to mind is great striking not wrestling .
Max Rai their wrestlers tho dude. Obviously Jones style isnt going to be wrestling, he’s taller and longer than every person he fights. They all have tools in their toolkit but they came from wrestling
Nah. I'm a jiu jitsu lover, and I agreed 100% with Dean. Most Jiu Jitsu guys have zero problem acknowledging the difference in approach and mentality. I've never met a jiu jitsu guy who had a problem admitting that wrestling is way more physically demanding and mentally tough than jiu jitsu. I can be on my back for 10 minutes playing guard and not get tired. Where as a couple minutes of wrestling will wreck me (I am NOT a wrestler lol). So I highly doubt Joe would be soft enough and irrational enough to deny the obvious. The video literally starts off with Joe praising wrestling and saying it's first on the list of necessary and efficient martial arts for mma. You really think he hasn't ever analyzed the differences?
@@flipgsp Exactly. JJ is technical af and it´s not easy by any means, but just in terms of sheer grueling-ness, wrestling (especially standup wrestling, imo) is sooo fucking hard. I can roll on the ground for minutes but 45 seconds of wrestling on the feet with some real effort, and I´m about to throw up.
A friend of mine was a wrestler in high school and then joined the army. Boot camp was a breeze for him because his wrestling training was harder than bootcamp was.
I remember from my wrestling days one particular: Elimination. We started from the lightest to the heaviest. You won, you got a heavier opponent. If that doesn't teach you your place, nothing will.
I remember shark bait. You wrestle someone, the whistle blows, and immediately without stopping, that someone leaves and a fresh guy that had plenty of rest charges at you. You do a few rounds of those and then someone else is the shark bait.
@@bornfree8073 So you mean dominating and beating other strong and in shape people is gay? What sport do you play? The only thing as hard if not harder than wrestling is swimming. Maybe you should stop acting like a tough guy and being homophobic
Sergїo arcїga Jr Football is not as hard as wrestling. I played football and wrestled and most football players who tried wrestling out couldn’t hang and ended up quitting after their first practice.
The worst would be your straight conditioning practices... Soon as you're done with your stretching and warm up jog coaches just blow the whistle and scream "PAIR UP, GROUPS OF 3's". You know you're fucked... No drills, No technique... You know it's going to be 2-3 hours of straight wrestling, and then an hour of straight sprinting/jogging and whatever other fucking exercise like Burpies, wheelbarrels, fireman carries etc... you can think of..... Ugh.... Took me so long to leave the locker room after those.
@@Tikimohn I remember when we had fucked up as a team, we would finish doing our warm ups in the track and would walk in to the wrestling room thinking it would be another day in the office til we saw a red flag hanging somewhere in the room. We knew we were so fucked lmao. 3-4 hours of intense conditioning. At least 1 person would throw up everytime.
@@yo2stix I remember the first week of practice was always brutal, our second most brutal series of practices. Was always to weed out the guys that couldn't hack it.
Brings back those memories of getting up at 4 am just to shed off those last 2 pounds before weigh ins, it was a brutal sport but molded me into a young lion
Dillashaw is incredible to watch man, in my opinion he could be the Pound for Pound number 1 right now. Especially after he starches Cejudo. Like Joe said, Wrestlers don’t like facing Wrestlers who can really strike
As a wrestler, it’s something different. I’ve done Basketball, Track, and Soccer, none of them compare with the uncomfortable condition. The practices are hard, to really do a wrestling season, showing up to every practice, knowing you likely want to skip the next practice. It’s honestly about being tough, offensive, working hard, little to know breaks. Live wrestling, and learning some life skills, it’s just crazy, and wrestling gives you a high like a runner’s high. And you sometimes miss it, but you almost don’t miss the hard workouts, and during this quarantine, many like me are missing it so bad! Wrestlers, who want to be there in the room, not just there to lose weight, or stay in shape for the next sports season, or because someone told them they had to do something to get out of the house, are something special, something different. And I’m my opinion, wrestling is the most underrated commonly found sport in high school and college.
I have never looked forward to a wrestling practice. The warmups combined with the smell of chlorine as the freshmen were cleaning the mats was always eerie. It was the calm before the storm. Once the mat dries, and the warmups are done, a hellish practice was about to begin.
People really sleep on judo. It's way harder than anything. It's like wrestling and bjj combined. Especially when you get slammed the wind gets knocked out of you.
The wrestling coaches at my old school did not recognize any other sport as a tough sport. Football was for babies in their eyes, and after seeing the level of competitiveness and dedication our wrestling team had all I could do was nod in agreement. They won state almost every year, and cumulatively the school has the most titles in state history.
How things have changed. Back in the day, I used to argue with my classmates all the time about wrestling being a much more physically and mentally demanding sport than basketball in high school, but everyone used to disagree, saying wrestling was easier because it is only 3 6-min periods, where basketball was 4 12-min quarters. Nice to see more respect for wrestlers.
Fun fact: Most knights and people in the middle ages trained wrestling rather than striking when it came to empty handed skills, due to the prevalence of daggers, since if you were not not armed it was more important to be able to grapple and take someone down in order to secure a disarm. Strikes were most often used to set up take downs
The grind those guys go through is on par with what those early vale tudo guys trained in the 80's and 90's. It is something about having another man trying to impose his will on you.
Ox not just having him impose his will on you. He does it while you do the same to them. Any one can work out a little and end up being able to bench or lift their own body weight but now try to struggle against your own body weight for 10 min trying to pin it to the ground while it fights back with the same strength as you. Nothing feels better than a quick pin.
I wrestled 4 years in Highschool. I've done mma after and had about 7 fights. Won them all, nothing was as hard as wrestling. I dont fight or compete any more I just enjoy it as a fan but these guys are not kidding. Wrestling breeds a different type
Hey bro i have a question, i want to be an UFC fighter, im a good striker because i practiced kempo since i was 12, now im training MMA. Can i be a high level Wrestler (to be in the UFC) in 2 or 3 years? Im 20 years old lol
@@Joseabh24 Just depends on u. I'm planning to become a professional MMA fighter and I have no background. (I live in a very small town in Nebraska, so the closest MMA gym is 100 miles from where I live.) So I've got a late start but I'm gonna see how quick I learn and what my style is. I personally hope to hear ur name in the MMA community. Good luck!
@erhhqw the ufc scouts talent from other places ig, if you're good enough and win big amateur matches, and pro matches, mma organizations will probably notice you
Dude it’s still wrestling, it’s like saying sambo isn’t a form of wrestling 😂. So many people are in denial that’s its the strongest base form of MMA and I’m formally a strike because of my body type and athleticism but it’s true. Khabib world class wrestling beat a world class striker in conor. Jones, Cormier, stipe, woodley, gsp, tj etc all began in wrestling. The competing in wrestling, as they said during the video is on a higher level, hence why it’s the oldest Olympic sport. A complete/perfect fighter is someone that can execute wrestling, submissions and kickboxing to a high level.
I started wrestling when I was kid, I’ll always remember starting varsity as Freshman at 160, my coach bumped me up to 189 being under weight and I was beating juniors and seniors, and a lot of it came from just having mental toughness, no other sport teaches it like wrestling And I’ve done all the other sports and love them but nothing compares to it, also being mainly a wrestler growing up it made playing other sports a lot easier and not just in sports but in life too
Daniel Johnson bro. That ain’t cool. We all have what we believe in, even if it’s nothing. As a Christian it’s great to have other religions out there. We all believe in the same thing, just have different understandings of how it came to be.
I only for a semester in highschool. I'm 27 now, I'm an amateur boxer. I've done taekwondo, swimming, rugby, American football, cross country, and I have to say, wrestling was by far the hardest most draining sport I've ever done. Anyone who's ever wrestled competitively for a couple of years, I respect the hell out of you. You guys are the toughest dudes in the world.
Ahhh the glory days. This convo takes me back...Up early before school training/running around the lake sweatin my ass off with trash bags under my clothes as a sweat suit. 💪🏽
I wrestled in high school and I only did for two months because I need to help my family and now I work security and the wrestling moves I learned have helped me a lot more than I thought they ever would
Man I regret not start wrestling as a kid .I started 6 years ago at 26, at my mma gym.I fell in love with it. I couldn’t believe I went all those years not training. As soon as my kids are older, I’m definitely putting them in wrestling, over anything else first.
Oh same 100%. I started wrestling junior year in highschool and I was really bummed out that I missed that opportunity. Definitely putting my kids in wrestling early.
@@jpc3984 Yea man, it sucks that wrestling isn’t part of my family. I cant blame my parents though, all they know is baseball and football lol. We’re Puerto Rican, we’re not known for 🤼. My daughter is 11 and son is 5 now, i want to get them involved ASAP.
When I was in high school, the star of our football team decided to try wrestling because it was getting more popular in school. He spent the whole season bitching and complaining about everything from how much conditioning we did to the 25 year old mats we practiced on. Mental toughness is what separates wrestlers from other athletes
Man, even in high school wrestling was absolutely brutal. Wrestled in middle school and high school. It felt like that’s all you were focused on year round. Practices in the morning before school, practice after school, then on the stationary bike or jogging a couple hours after getting home to eat and study. Then you did it all over again the next day and the next. The thought of quitting enters your mind but you shake that off and keep at it. When you’re varsity you got several other guys constantly trying to get better to take your spot. No only that, we had drills where the varsity guys stayed in the entire time while the JV guys rotated in “fresh” while we stayed in exhausted as all hell. Wrestling is an experience I’ll never forget. I joined the military after and graduated boot camp with honors. Getting up early to PT, then trying to deprive you of food, or making you study after a long PT session was nothing. I fuckin gained weight in boot camp lmao.
I wrestled for 5 years - all year long. It is one of toughest sports. Most of the football players dropped out after 2 weeks. Cutting weight is difficult too. Having the wrestling background is so important in MMA. Joe is correct, you get to control the fight.
My son was an all state football player who decided to start wrestling as a sophomore to “stay in shape” for football…after his first practice he walked in the house, stripped off his sweat soaked workout clothes and went straight to bed…I walked in and asked him how wrestling practice was and he said it sucked worse than anything he’d ever done!! 😂😂😂
I wrestled for three years as a 'cadet' (scrimmage partner) at a Canadian university. The earliest months were exhausting - I was brought to puking several times. The constant bursts of energy and arythmic scrambling and defending made 2 3:00 minute rounds seem like a half-hour. It really is the closest you can come to a streetfight without fighting.
Yeah I remember my first few matches and when I talked to my dad later he was like “that’s the closest thing to a brawl as you get with out punching each other”
Wrestlers are super tough dudes for sure, but the current rule set in the UFC also favors wrestlers. The cage aspect is a huge part, no knees to a down opponent, no upkicks, etc, 5 min rounds etc.
Current D1 wrestler here. I’ve been doing it for nearly 17 years and have 2 years of eligibility left. Let me just tell you walking into a college room for the first time was nuts. The talent gap is so thin. I remember getting paired up with a few upperclassmen and getting pounded on for a few weeks before I got my first takedown. It’s the greatest honor I’ve ever had in my life though. The bonds you form through the sport are life changing, and I wouldn’t be the man that I am today without it. Seeing other combat sports legends talk about it is awesome. I love the sport and love talking to others about it. I’m getting to live a dream that few have, and it’s truly a blessing.
I think in terms of the ufc it’s the judging. Cause I’ve seen lots of wrestlers get in someone’s guard try to get out to advance but can’t and get sliced up by elbows or get hit by lots of strikes only for the judges to give the wrestler the round cause he was on top
You gotta love how passionate Rogan and Thomas are about the sport of fighting. So much knowledge...and that only comes from learning about something you love. It’s infectious just watching them talk!
As a wrestler, I think the only reason why it is so dominate, is because it is so common in the US. Especially the amount of people who start it at a young age. There are 100 kids who grew up wrestling, for every 1 kid who grew up boxing or in BJJ etc.
But coudnt part of why wrestling is so popular compared to other martial arts be that it is very effective and professional? Karate juijitsu etc, the coaches are often not combat experienced and the methods of strenght endurance and agility training are not nearly as sophisticated in other sports than they are in wrestling.
My grandfather saw the titanic and he warned everyone that it would sink but nobody would listen. He told people a few more times and then he was kicked out of the cinema.
Yeah Conor is like fifty times as entertaining and has an extremely good record and is an amazing striker. Should I not like him for some reason? Cause he lost to khabib? He also lost to mayweather, knowing full well he probably would going into it. It's kind of part of his MO. I'm not saying khabib isn't fantastic I'm just saying his style is boring to watch as a form of entertainment. He's very good at a boring thing.
Wrestling is the best sport for many reasons, anyone who's ever been to a tournament and watched the youth compete knows how humbling this sport is. I wrestled for 8 years and I've seen more kids broken down than you could ever compare to any sport. The reason is you can't blame your loss on anyone other than yourself, its extremely personal. When my daughter turned 8 i made her wrestle, she did it for 2 years and it tought her a lot. If you want, go watch any youth tournament and i guarantee you will see it time after time.
Back in high school we had a guest coach. Dude was like an alternate for the national team and an assistant coach at Seton Hall U. He ran conditioning and I literally questioned if I would make it out of that room alive. I was a sophomore and decided THAT day I would never wrestle in college. RIP Kenser Defresne
The toughest thing for fighting is having the skill-set yes Wrestling Striking but if you can't TAKE the PUNISHMENT ...take a punch take a kick, do not gas out tired and avoid submissions OR it's all for NOTHING
I do boxing and wrestling, when I wrestle live 3 minutes straight and the end of class, that is one of the hardest thing to do and boxing workouts felt easier after wrestling
MMA wrestling is quite different than sport wrestling. Some wrestlers adjust easier than others of course. The mindset brought to MMA from wrestling is the most helpful aspect in my opinion; from a coaches standpoint.
I know a former wrestler , a colleague of mine in his early 60s , he's a former car mechanic, recovering from cancer, rides his motorbike to and from work daily, about 30 minutes each way, used to ride in the annual London to Brighton bicycle ride for 10 years , is still very fit and strong. He credits his fitness for his recovery
Wrestlers don’t fuck with wrestlers, we respect each other, so if a wrestler that can throw hands, I’m gonna respect him more, I loved that sport man. Damn
I wrestled 7th through 12th grade... broke my HS (overhand) pull-up 44 and shoulder dip 45 record in 1974 (I was told last year that my dip record still stands) my Dad taught me to box / fight (including fighting with his Fairbairn Sikes, as he was OSS WWII)... I then wrestled at Slipper Rock U for Fred Powel (assistant Olympic coach) at 174 lbs. (rolled with the Ben and John Peterson brothers, Wayne Wells, Dan Gable, even Chris Taylor a few times), worked out and spared with the boxing team, fenced, did yoga, and weights (Bench 325, curl 175, military 165), ran more at SRU then I did in HS CC, ran a sub 5 mln mile and an 11 flat 100... after college I pushed Nautilus at Gary Reinl's Gym in NJ, (you may know him as Dr. No Ice) when I moved back to the Philly area, I worked out at Pat Croce's (of 76ers) gym, and had further weight lifting and work-out instruction from Eddie Coyle (Gold in the Para Olympics 1972 and 10 national championships and 23 world records)... shot hoops with Phil Maratelli (St Joe BB coach)... as we (Gary, Pat, Ed, and Phil) all grew up in Lansdowne, PA together... Was a Navy Seabee from '89 to '03, and held the NMCB 21 battalion position of forward observer... at 66 I still go through life healthy without fear, working out with a Gracie BJJ team... Andy Russel (BBJ instructor), Greg Ellis (shotput gold) Mark Wunderlich, (NBA ref), Charlene Morett-Curtiss (Olympic Gold, PSU Coach field Hockey) were all friends from Lansdowne too...
Boxing is one of the hardest sports to practice, 98% of UFC guys would die just due to the amount of time you have to fight, 50 minutes of fighting with little breaks.
The wrestling room is intense. Being an insecure 11 year old in the middle school wrestling room was intimidated man. Good thing is that no one on that team could beat me the next year
I wrestled with a friend 20 years ago and my heart rate has not been that crazy since then. My heart rate when I see a buck in the woods is crazy but it’s different.
I wrestled when I was in kindergarten and first grade and then I quit came back freshman year and got my ass kicked first tournament. Now in my sophomore year doing much better it’s quite a sport
I remember trying out wrestling and the 2 days I went. I remember having a pool of sweat on the Matt after doing warmups 😂😂. A full on practice was fun but it does wear you down especially as you get older lol.
After wrestling, everything in life is easy- Dan Gable. I wrestled 7 years and I firmly believe if everyone had to endure a wrestling practice there would be a lot less complaining 😂
Keep at it bro. I quit my junior year in high school cause i took 2 losses and my ego took a hit. Leaving the team is stillone of my biggest regrets. But i left the mat with more knowledge to defend myself if i ever go to the ground
Wrestling really does foster an alpha male mentality. It's great. Even in high-school. Constant misery made "worth it" by a few minutes of real competition. We lived for real matches, where we could prove we were top dog. Even the games we played in the room. King of the Hill, after everyone was absolutely dogshit tired, proved who was the best in the team. It was fucking awesome.
Wrestling for 6 minutes after fasting for a day helps you learn who you are very quickly
Please no
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Blake gee pretty much😂 its soo hard. But at least u dont have to wrestle until the day after the weight in
Wish I woulda stuck with wrestling when I was young but I was too skinny to be a real threat :/
That's the truth man . I had to cut down to 150 from 160 in 4 hours to wrestle a freshman that was a 3 time junior high state champ . My coach didn't want our 150 to get man handled and we had another solid 160 . I was so drained . It was a straight chess match the first round . Shoulder clinch fighting . I caught him with a Greco-Roman throw to pin . I caught a Charlie horse pinning him in my fucking calf . Had I been on the ground second round he probably would have got me from exhaustion and being dehydrated
I ran more in wrestling practice than cross country.
Spencer Leon says a lot about the type of conditioning wrestling requires
We didn’t run as much but Jesus Christ fire men carries up a stadium suck ass
how? I was a slightly above average runner and I’d be running 40 miles per week
Seth Williams ok. Were you running on your own time as well or just in practice? Cause either you’re not very bright or your coach didn’t know what he was doing. That’s way too much running. I did both cross country and wrestling in middle school and only wrestled in high school so I don’t know what it was like at that level but when I did it we ran maybe 2 or 3 miles 5 days a week including the actual meets. In wrestling it was I don’t even know how many miles in a bunch of different types of running exercises. Sprints, shuttles, Indian runs, intervals etc. my cardio was ridiculous.
Spencer Leon if your cross country practise only consists of running a few miles a day, your coach was retarded tbh.
There is absolutely no reason you should be running more in wrestling than cross country.
My friends that called me gay for wrestling when we were in junior high and high school, are the ones that say they wish they had wrestled in junior high and high school.
@Na tu Or were the kids that played some shit like Soccer and basketball
Na tu I did both Swimming and Water Polo, and there was definitely a lot of gay moments, but even we all came to the consensus that wrestling had the big gay
@@SyndicateAllTheWay How is it gay? We are out there to kick ass not to be gay.
Ugh brother I feel that, I wish I had wrestled. Now playing catch up with BJJ, asking politely for people to start spars on our feet rather than on knees/in guard
@@Wesleybaker2012 wrestling is only good while standing once your on ground bjj takes the role
Wrestling is the most exhaustive activity I ever tried. Played fullback, have boxed 6 rounds more than once, have swam 2 miles a few times. None compares with trying to pin or my case just survive a wrestling workout. Those guys are in great shape.
10 seconds feel like an eternity in wrestling
Lol
Lol dude my senior year I was so out of shape I won 23 matches that year and I pinned every kid in those matches. I would always die after the second round. I wrestled like 3 full matches that year and lost them lol
would you rather fight a wrestler or fight a guy who can break metal poles & baseball bats with his kicks? all I know is i'd rather tap out than have my leg snapped in half
😂 that’s a fact. People don’t understand how intense that sport is
As a striker, i admit that wrestling is practically superior. Idc how good you are at punching and kicking, once you go down it's over
Montin Yek agreed, wrestlers and judokas kick my ass during training every time we spare for fun
not always, but most of the time
I think boxing is more effective than wrestling on the streets.
Krule
Can’t box from your back bud
Krule Joe blow can get lucky and knock out a good boxer but you can’t say that about grappling
Dudes scull rockin the mohawk
Fucking LOL
F F S 😂
Skullhawk, my next heavy metal bands name.
Shepherd Fanatic ...lmao
Hugh Johnson with singles like 'I cant keep my hat on'
I grew up wrestling. I wrestled through highschool and most years, did freestyle after school practice. All my friends were wrestlers and even on the weekends we wrestled nonstop for hours and hours in the living room. It will teach humility and to break your own limits. Today, my son is wrestling in highschool. There has been no single greater mental challenge in my life than wrestling. Everything else is easy
Wrestling is definitely tough, but I disagree that wrestling makes "Everything else easy." Let's see you swim out into massive surf with no swim fins and no flotation device, and there's a strong rip current pulling over sharp coral reef. You'd get dragged into the impact zone and get smoked! No human is tougher than the ocean, my friend. I don't care how physically and mentally tough you are. The ocean will just swallow you up, and suck away all of your energy like you're insignificant.
Hair levels are critically low sir!
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@Nobody Unknown So would you like me to hold the spit? Sir?
They're like baby seals 😂
Quality
Bro. Go take care of Butt stallion. Not be watching CZcams.
Imagine teaching wrestling to mike tyson in his prime
now that would be thavage!
Thats was murderous machine ever made
Lets assume ufc was around back then. The issue is that he would be below the average skill level even if he had 2-3 years of training, so when it went to the ground he would be outwrestled even if he knew how.
However, if he had wrestled for years on top of the boxing hed be a fuckin machine. Imagine his punching power in 4 oz gloves
@@jakbak3566 first ufc tournament was in 1993. MMA came even earlier. But the difference is that everyone knew only 1 martial art.
@@dzimikes thats not true at all, haha
Wrestling 3 minute rounds is the most exhausting thing that I have ever done.
that right ..
15 years of it. You are correct. Dont care at all what your conditioning background is. Most cant even go for one 2 minute round without wheezing
@@jayvdub5390 or barfing
2 minutes was HELL for me. I've never been that tired in my life again.
So you musta started in high school lol same here fracturing my l1 and l5 in college now my son wrestles in high school did 2 mins bout died couldn’t really do anything after words and thought 19 years ago I’d do this all day then come home and practice on anyone that let me grueling sports but at 45 years old most the young bucks at work can’t keep up with me
Wrestling is the most dominant martial art. Even if you're a mediocre striker but have wrestling you can make it far. Wrestlers are a different breed. 6 out of the 8 UFC champs come from a wrestling background. That's mad.
Eeeeeeeh not exactly. That's just the time we're in. For example in women's division are there female wrestlers that are champions? DJ is pretty good. Max too.
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He made a factual statement and you still had some smart ass comment
karl jonson Exactly, if Joe and Din were talking about the most dominant art back in the days of the early UFC, they would be talking about BJJ. In my opinion every style has potential if it is drilled and practiced correctly. That’s why we see many wrestlers who have been in shape and drilling since they were little kids and much fewer from other styles as they haven’t got the same amount of mat time and competition that wrestling gives.
@@JJ-te3yf Just because they have wrestled in their teens doesn't mean that their mma base is wrestling . When you talk about Jones and TJ the first thing that comes to mind is great striking not wrestling .
Max Rai their wrestlers tho dude. Obviously Jones style isnt going to be wrestling, he’s taller and longer than every person he fights. They all have tools in their toolkit but they came from wrestling
Joe was extremely upset and triggered on the inside about the jiu jitsu comments.
Jiu Jitsu and weed he hit all the right chords
Yep. You can see him swallow hard at that point.
For sure.
Nah. I'm a jiu jitsu lover, and I agreed 100% with Dean. Most Jiu Jitsu guys have zero problem acknowledging the difference in approach and mentality. I've never met a jiu jitsu guy who had a problem admitting that wrestling is way more physically demanding and mentally tough than jiu jitsu. I can be on my back for 10 minutes playing guard and not get tired. Where as a couple minutes of wrestling will wreck me (I am NOT a wrestler lol). So I highly doubt Joe would be soft enough and irrational enough to deny the obvious. The video literally starts off with Joe praising wrestling and saying it's first on the list of necessary and efficient martial arts for mma. You really think he hasn't ever analyzed the differences?
@@flipgsp Exactly. JJ is technical af and it´s not easy by any means, but just in terms of sheer grueling-ness, wrestling (especially standup wrestling, imo) is sooo fucking hard. I can roll on the ground for minutes but 45 seconds of wrestling on the feet with some real effort, and I´m about to throw up.
A friend of mine was a wrestler in high school and then joined the army. Boot camp was a breeze for him because his wrestling training was harder than bootcamp was.
My brother did the same and said this as well. “The DI’s can’t put hands on me like coach could!”
A lot of soldiers wrestle, boot camp should be easier for them. Don't know about special forces tho.
@@grappling.enthusiast that’s a whole different level; having wrestling experience can’t hurt though.
@@c_rock3512
True that conditioning should be handy.
bruh
I remember from my wrestling days one particular: Elimination.
We started from the lightest to the heaviest. You won, you got a heavier opponent.
If that doesn't teach you your place, nothing will.
Is called King of the Mat lol
I was heavy so I always ran through my opponent’s
I remember shark bait. You wrestle someone, the whistle blows, and immediately without stopping, that someone leaves and a fresh guy that had plenty of rest charges at you. You do a few rounds of those and then someone else is the shark bait.
We played a game where u had to be on base and try to pin someone else and my 300 plus lbs coach who go play with us
King of the Mat
And wrestling is an ancient martial artist. I mean the ancient civilisations had that as a sport.
It Is Probably The Longest Existing Martial Art. Look At Every Continent. All Have Some Ancient Form Of Wresting/Grappling.
And it’s the most natural one: animals, especially kids, wrestle too.
Ancient Indian "mythology" is riddled with legendary wrestlers.
@@azizka9177 you forgeting the knuckles on your hand bruh? boxing is ancient too..
Wrestling and boxing the oldest
They are right about wrestling. BY FAR hardest sport I was involved in. Hard to take certain people seriously from weaker sports after wrestling.
@@bornfree8073 So you mean dominating and beating other strong and in shape people is gay? What sport do you play? The only thing as hard if not harder than wrestling is swimming. Maybe you should stop acting like a tough guy and being homophobic
@@tile1522 he's just a lazy midget who sits on his ass all day in front of screen. Don't take him seriously buddy.
Rob Mangeri what about football ? The best athletes in the USA play football
Sergїo arcїga Jr Football is not as hard as wrestling. I played football and wrestled and most football players who tried wrestling out couldn’t hang and ended up quitting after their first practice.
This thread has me ROLLING.
Wrestling practice. You had to get your head right before you entered. Never ever an easy day.
Athletic Performance Shooting every fuccin day 3+ hours you’re right I wud have to get pumped up for practice just to get thru it
The worst would be your straight conditioning practices... Soon as you're done with your stretching and warm up jog coaches just blow the whistle and scream "PAIR UP, GROUPS OF 3's". You know you're fucked... No drills, No technique... You know it's going to be 2-3 hours of straight wrestling, and then an hour of straight sprinting/jogging and whatever other fucking exercise like Burpies, wheelbarrels, fireman carries etc... you can think of..... Ugh.... Took me so long to leave the locker room after those.
@@Tikimohn I remember when we had fucked up as a team, we would finish doing our warm ups in the track and would walk in to the wrestling room thinking it would be another day in the office til we saw a red flag hanging somewhere in the room. We knew we were so fucked lmao. 3-4 hours of intense conditioning. At least 1 person would throw up everytime.
My freshman year...4 hour practices. So brutal. I was a complete fish. Took beatings all year.
@@yo2stix I remember the first week of practice was always brutal, our second most brutal series of practices. Was always to weed out the guys that couldn't hack it.
If you think you have great conditioning, go wrestle live and you'll be shocked how bad your conditioning is
If you're a wrestler go box and see how pathetic you are.
The Dapper Don I’ve done both extensively. Wrestling is more taxing.
So true .. Recently I wrestled Two Guys ..picked up the win but Damn I was Exhausted and it kinda made me not to try wrestling again
@@zsxdemon boxing isnt fighting either is wrestling but in mma using wrestling hart
The Dapper Don haha dumbass. Wrestling is WAYYYY more grueling. Bet you can’t do 10 rounds of 3 minute wrestling.
Brings back those memories of getting up at 4 am just to shed off those last 2 pounds before weigh ins, it was a brutal sport but molded me into a young lion
Lol good one mate, now go back to your moms basement trolling people on your keyboard 😂
I used to wear a track suit and a letter men and jump rope for those last hours before weigh ins lmao
With the trashbag underneath the sweatsuit at 6am the day of weigh-ins cutting those last few pounds of waterweight.
Dillashaw is a wrestler who became a striker. Really the complete package.
So is his training partner Aaron pico. He's only like 6-1 but he is a fucking nightmare.
Facts
@@1994Trill That kid's got body shots from hell. So impressive.
Dillashaw is incredible to watch man, in my opinion he could be the Pound for Pound number 1 right now. Especially after he starches Cejudo. Like Joe said, Wrestlers don’t like facing Wrestlers who can really strike
@@1994Trill Pico is a little different he's been boxing since he was a kid so technically striker turned wrestler turned mma fighter
As a wrestler, it’s something different. I’ve done Basketball, Track, and Soccer, none of them compare with the uncomfortable condition. The practices are hard, to really do a wrestling season, showing up to every practice, knowing you likely want to skip the next practice. It’s honestly about being tough, offensive, working hard, little to know breaks. Live wrestling, and learning some life skills, it’s just crazy, and wrestling gives you a high like a runner’s high. And you sometimes miss it, but you almost don’t miss the hard workouts, and during this quarantine, many like me are missing it so bad! Wrestlers, who want to be there in the room, not just there to lose weight, or stay in shape for the next sports season, or because someone told them they had to do something to get out of the house, are something special, something different. And I’m my opinion, wrestling is the most underrated commonly found sport in high school and college.
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I have never looked forward to a wrestling practice. The warmups combined with the smell of chlorine as the freshmen were cleaning the mats was always eerie. It was the calm before the storm. Once the mat dries, and the warmups are done, a hellish practice was about to begin.
Is there a Sunday league for wrestling lol
Facts, miss that too
@@777Skeptic fr I hate the smell of the mats
"Once you've wrestled, everything else in life is easy"
I wish 😢
"Wrestlers are tough. Look at khabib"
Khabib- "judo"
Haha exactly
Yeah so many people don’t know he’s a judo black belt
People really sleep on judo. It's way harder than anything. It's like wrestling and bjj combined. Especially when you get slammed the wind gets knocked out of you.
"Judo is another class. You know class? "- khabib to cejudo on anatomy of fightet
@@djbobby224 it's like gi bjj combined with wrestling but without single or double lega
If you're reading this you should know Jamie got an A in physics
No he dropped out hahaha
So why is he employed as Joe's Google looker-upper?
thanks for informing me
What school did you go to Einstein?
@Elon Musk Joe's Google looker-upper.
Dan Gable : “after wrestling nothing in life is hard”
The wrestling coaches at my old school did not recognize any other sport as a tough sport. Football was for babies in their eyes, and after seeing the level of competitiveness and dedication our wrestling team had all I could do was nod in agreement. They won state almost every year, and cumulatively the school has the most titles in state history.
What school?
@@XeraYT Probably Perry High from Oklahoma
How things have changed. Back in the day, I used to argue with my classmates all the time about wrestling being a much more physically and mentally demanding sport than basketball in high school, but everyone used to disagree, saying wrestling was easier because it is only 3 6-min periods, where basketball was 4 12-min quarters. Nice to see more respect for wrestlers.
The full body 120% cardiac output. Nothing like it
The longest 6 minutes of your life.
Hahaha about smoking pot at Jui Jujitsu school!
I trained at Dins mma gym in stuart fl and mostly all his coaches and students smoked weed
Leg lock for you bitch
@Brian Moore Better have a brain of a 12 year old, than a body of a 80 year old. haha
Fun fact: Most knights and people in the middle ages trained wrestling rather than striking when it came to empty handed skills, due to the prevalence of daggers, since if you were not not armed it was more important to be able to grapple and take someone down in order to secure a disarm. Strikes were most often used to set up take downs
Not saying Brock lesnar is the best but the only reason Brock did somewhat decent in the ufc was because of his wrestling background
He won the belt in his 4th ever mma fight. That's great, not decent.
@Dinero He won against the best fighters after barely training and having less fighting experience than all of them. That's skill.
@206- Sea He was half his WWE size. Other fighters were taking more than him.
....the massive amount of steroids he took might have helped too....sorry, but no respect for that guy, complete doping cheat
@@seheadhunter50 eh,ufc heavyweight roster sucked back then
Shoutout to all wrestlers 🤼♀️
I wrestle also
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My man✊
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Let’s go states are soon
The grind those guys go through is on par with what those early vale tudo guys trained in the 80's and 90's. It is something about having another man trying to impose his will on you.
I'm about to impose my will on you.
Ox not just having him impose his will on you. He does it while you do the same to them. Any one can work out a little and end up being able to bench or lift their own body weight but now try to struggle against your own body weight for 10 min trying to pin it to the ground while it fights back with the same strength as you. Nothing feels better than a quick pin.
I ran track, wrestled, play football and basketball in high school. The wrestling program conditioning was exponentially harder that the other sports.
I wrestled 4 years in Highschool. I've done mma after and had about 7 fights. Won them all, nothing was as hard as wrestling. I dont fight or compete any more I just enjoy it as a fan but these guys are not kidding. Wrestling breeds a different type
Hey bro i have a question, i want to be an UFC fighter, im a good striker because i practiced kempo since i was 12, now im training MMA. Can i be a high level Wrestler (to be in the UFC) in 2 or 3 years? Im 20 years old lol
@@Joseabh24 Just depends on u. I'm planning to become a professional MMA fighter and I have no background. (I live in a very small town in Nebraska, so the closest MMA gym is 100 miles from where I live.) So I've got a late start but I'm gonna see how quick I learn and what my style is. I personally hope to hear ur name in the MMA community. Good luck!
@@Joseabh24
You can , it depends if you will
@erhhqw the ufc scouts talent from other places ig, if you're good enough and win big amateur matches, and pro matches, mma organizations will probably notice you
“Jon you really think I’m gonna sit here and let you kill me?” -Picograms to Jon
Underrated comment XD
Comment thief
Lmfao
Lmao that’s good.
Seems to be true. Sakuraba beat all the Gracies. His background... wrestling.
Submission wrestling *
@@pasxidhs627 but still wrestling type.
@@hunainh3766 yes but submission wrestling is different. You can turtle in wrestling. Doing that in any submission competition is giving a free W
@@pasxidhs627 He started as an amateur wrestler.
Dude it’s still wrestling, it’s like saying sambo isn’t a form of wrestling 😂. So many people are in denial that’s its the strongest base form of MMA and I’m formally a strike because of my body type and athleticism but it’s true. Khabib world class wrestling beat a world class striker in conor. Jones, Cormier, stipe, woodley, gsp, tj etc all began in wrestling. The competing in wrestling, as they said during the video is on a higher level, hence why it’s the oldest Olympic sport. A complete/perfect fighter is someone that can execute wrestling, submissions and kickboxing to a high level.
I started wrestling when I was kid, I’ll always remember starting varsity as Freshman at 160, my coach bumped me up to 189 being under weight and I was beating juniors and seniors, and a lot of it came from just having mental toughness, no other sport teaches it like wrestling And I’ve done all the other sports and love them but nothing compares to it, also being mainly a wrestler growing up it made playing other sports a lot easier and not just in sports but in life too
i wrestled 1,5 hours a day during ramadan, that my man that was hard
Props to you brother cant imagine the exhaustion
Me too
Stop following that shit religion.. lol.. be an atheist.
Daniel Johnson bro. That ain’t cool. We all have what we believe in, even if it’s nothing. As a Christian it’s great to have other religions out there. We all believe in the same thing, just have different understandings of how it came to be.
@@taylorowens3721 hes a dummy
Wrestling is the most grueling thing I’ve ever done in my entire high school sports career
why? what about judo?
@@boliussa
Take a judo class. Then take a wrestling class. Then you’ll understand why.
@@shredgod6394 i'm too old
@@boliussa the attitude and culture in the room
I did football then did wrestling and I’ll say wrestling is easily the toughest thing I have ever done
this guy looking like he boutta grow another head
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I only for a semester in highschool. I'm 27 now, I'm an amateur boxer. I've done taekwondo, swimming, rugby, American football, cross country, and I have to say, wrestling was by far the hardest most draining sport I've ever done. Anyone who's ever wrestled competitively for a couple of years, I respect the hell out of you. You guys are the toughest dudes in the world.
Ahhh the glory days. This convo takes me back...Up early before school training/running around the lake sweatin my ass off with trash bags under my clothes as a sweat suit. 💪🏽
Yep
I wrestled in high school and I only did for two months because I need to help my family and now I work security and the wrestling moves I learned have helped me a lot more than I thought they ever would
How long ago were you in high school? I’m wondering to see because it’s been 4 years since I wrestled and wonder if I still got it.
@@stevanaldape3424 you probably still do
Same here
Man I regret not start wrestling as a kid .I started 6 years ago at 26, at my mma gym.I fell in love with it. I couldn’t believe I went all those years not training. As soon as my kids are older, I’m definitely putting them in wrestling, over anything else first.
Oh same 100%. I started wrestling junior year in highschool and I was really bummed out that I missed that opportunity. Definitely putting my kids in wrestling early.
@@jpc3984 Yea man, it sucks that wrestling isn’t part of my family. I cant blame my parents though, all they know is baseball and football lol. We’re Puerto Rican, we’re not known for 🤼. My daughter is 11 and son is 5 now, i want to get them involved ASAP.
Same
@@solodolo_mma3971 Get ya son in when he's about 8 fam🦾
@@solodolo_mma3971 put the younger one in a gymnastics or tumbling program first.....will really help them get a head start
One of my favorite bits in JRE history. “Wrestling is about dominating...”: Din rings the bell with his take.
Joe "Wrestlers are so Jackkked... so jacked" Rogan
Jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjaaaaaaaaacckkkkkkkkkkkked
Badoooooosh
When I was in high school, the star of our football team decided to try wrestling because it was getting more popular in school. He spent the whole season bitching and complaining about everything from how much conditioning we did to the 25 year old mats we practiced on. Mental toughness is what separates wrestlers from other athletes
Man, even in high school wrestling was absolutely brutal. Wrestled in middle school and high school. It felt like that’s all you were focused on year round. Practices in the morning before school, practice after school, then on the stationary bike or jogging a couple hours after getting home to eat and study. Then you did it all over again the next day and the next. The thought of quitting enters your mind but you shake that off and keep at it. When you’re varsity you got several other guys constantly trying to get better to take your spot. No only that, we had drills where the varsity guys stayed in the entire time while the JV guys rotated in “fresh” while we stayed in exhausted as all hell. Wrestling is an experience I’ll never forget. I joined the military after and graduated boot camp with honors. Getting up early to PT, then trying to deprive you of food, or making you study after a long PT session was nothing. I fuckin gained weight in boot camp lmao.
I haven't wrestled in 7 years and it is the most exhausting thing I've ever done and its the one thing I've missed the most in my life
Wtf what bjj schools is din Thomas been going to😂😂😂😂😂🤔
Alfredo Barragan 502 I wouldn’t necessarily say that
Alfredo Barragan 502 idk everything is trash compared to this gun
@@crunchiest698 Pussy
Alfredo Barragan 502 it’s just different they are for different parts of fighting
I wrestled for 5 years - all year long. It is one of toughest sports. Most of the football players dropped out after 2 weeks. Cutting weight is difficult too. Having the wrestling background is so important in MMA. Joe is correct, you get to control the fight.
I love wrestling. The feeling after 5 minutes of non stop wrestling is exhausting, but addictive.
My son was an all state football player who decided to start wrestling as a sophomore to “stay in shape” for football…after his first practice he walked in the house, stripped off his sweat soaked workout clothes and went straight to bed…I walked in and asked him how wrestling practice was and he said it sucked worse than anything he’d ever done!! 😂😂😂
I wrestled for three years as a 'cadet' (scrimmage partner) at a Canadian university. The earliest months were exhausting - I was brought to puking several times. The constant bursts of energy and arythmic scrambling and defending made 2 3:00 minute rounds seem like a half-hour. It really is the closest you can come to a streetfight without fighting.
Yeah I remember my first few matches and when I talked to my dad later he was like “that’s the closest thing to a brawl as you get with out punching each other”
I honestly dont think any other sport can make you lose 14 pounds in 2 hours on a daily and consistent basis
Joe should get Tony on the podcast
Tony doesn't like Joe
Nah. Fuck tony . Hes horeshit. Gets dropped 3 times by d level fighters
Tony's the type of guy to invite Joe to the JRE podcast.
Tony is cringe.
@@hadan8792 Yet he still wins...
Wrestlers are super tough dudes for sure, but the current rule set in the UFC also favors wrestlers. The cage aspect is a huge part, no knees to a down opponent, no upkicks, etc, 5 min rounds etc.
Current D1 wrestler here. I’ve been doing it for nearly 17 years and have 2 years of eligibility left. Let me just tell you walking into a college room for the first time was nuts. The talent gap is so thin. I remember getting paired up with a few upperclassmen and getting pounded on for a few weeks before I got my first takedown. It’s the greatest honor I’ve ever had in my life though. The bonds you form through the sport are life changing, and I wouldn’t be the man that I am today without it. Seeing other combat sports legends talk about it is awesome. I love the sport and love talking to others about it. I’m getting to live a dream that few have, and it’s truly a blessing.
Is wrestling only available in college or are there places you can learn? I wrestled in highschool but recently graduated
Yeah wrestlers usually have a lot of unity with their bodies when they move so usually stronger than they look
I think in terms of the ufc it’s the judging. Cause I’ve seen lots of wrestlers get in someone’s guard try to get out to advance but can’t and get sliced up by elbows or get hit by lots of strikes only for the judges to give the wrestler the round cause he was on top
Not always true Randleman vs Rutten comes to mind
If you are in the guard, its usually you who deliver the ground and pound, not the opposite.
Dominant position is always taken into account
You gotta love how passionate Rogan and Thomas are about the sport of fighting. So much knowledge...and that only comes from learning about something you love. It’s infectious just watching them talk!
I've trained as a boxer for close to 35 years. I have tried wrestling a few times . The next day almost every joint in my body was aching.
Just a different stimulus your body ain’t used to
Your body ain't used to it that's why
My biggest regret about high school will always be that I never did wrestling.
As a wrestler, I think the only reason why it is so dominate, is because it is so common in the US. Especially the amount of people who start it at a young age. There are 100 kids who grew up wrestling, for every 1 kid who grew up boxing or in BJJ etc.
But coudnt part of why wrestling is so popular compared to other martial arts be that it is very effective and professional? Karate juijitsu etc, the coaches are often not combat experienced and the methods of strenght endurance and agility training are not nearly as sophisticated in other sports than they are in wrestling.
That's not the main reason why wrestling is superior
Jiu Jitsu, yes, boxing??? no. There's a lot of boxers around the world, even in here Australia there's like one wrestler to 1000 boxers.
My grandfather saw the titanic and he warned everyone that it would sink but nobody would listen. He told people a few more times and then he was kicked out of the cinema.
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@@Moabd19 leiterly makes no sense
@@ivanhernandez5306 estaba riendome mucho
@@ivanhernandez5306 just shut the fuck off why are stupid fucks like you even on the internet
Then there's the casuals (e.g. Conor fanboys) saying it's "boring" cause their favorite fighters get destroyed when going up against a wrestler LOL
Yeah but..... it IS boring.
@@koalanectar9382 wrong. If you just want striking, watch boxing!
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Yeah Conor is like fifty times as entertaining and has an extremely good record and is an amazing striker. Should I not like him for some reason? Cause he lost to khabib? He also lost to mayweather, knowing full well he probably would going into it. It's kind of part of his MO. I'm not saying khabib isn't fantastic I'm just saying his style is boring to watch as a form of entertainment. He's very good at a boring thing.
@@koalanectar9382 He's s dumb mick bastard.
Wrestling is the best sport for many reasons, anyone who's ever been to a tournament and watched the youth compete knows how humbling this sport is. I wrestled for 8 years and I've seen more kids broken down than you could ever compare to any sport. The reason is you can't blame your loss on anyone other than yourself, its extremely personal. When my daughter turned 8 i made her wrestle, she did it for 2 years and it tought her a lot. If you want, go watch any youth tournament and i guarantee you will see it time after time.
Wish I could go back in time and start wrestling
DC, wrestlers
yoel romero, wrestlers
Khabib
Tryone woodley
mighty mouse
Cain Velazquez
need i say more?
Stipe Fucking Miočić
+Floyd Harrison Henry Cejudo too.
Askren. 👀
Jon Jones?
Brock lesnar, Randy Couture, Dan Severn, Don Frye
Back in high school we had a guest coach. Dude was like an alternate for the national team and an assistant coach at Seton Hall U. He ran conditioning and I literally questioned if I would make it out of that room alive. I was a sophomore and decided THAT day I would never wrestle in college. RIP Kenser Defresne
172 highschool matches. Experience in competition is everything
The toughest thing for fighting is having the skill-set yes Wrestling Striking but if you can't TAKE the PUNISHMENT ...take a punch take a kick, do not gas out tired and avoid submissions OR it's all for NOTHING
What a champion analyst, you just discovered the golden formula to mixed martial arts.
Yea, I got mad at Ortega for trying to trike with Max early on. Bro your a BJJ expert.
He couldn’t take max down
But he was getting punched in the face lol
I do boxing and wrestling, when I wrestle live 3 minutes straight and the end of class, that is one of the hardest thing to do and boxing workouts felt easier after wrestling
How do u do both
At a gym or in high school? At my team we wrestle for 12-18 mins just live depending on the day(b4 sprints after drills more live etc)
Strikers fall in love with the ground game and wrestlers fall in love with the striking
He said he disagreed, but said nothing to counter what Joe said about wrestling lol
I’ve done both, wrestled and boxed. Wrestling really helps you build that mental fortitude but boxing shortens your life expectancy.
No biased point here
Very true.
In that I mean some boxers brains are mush by the time theyre 40.
This guy's forhead has a story of its own!
"Once you've wrestled, everything else in life is easy." - Dan Gable
MMA wrestling is quite different than sport wrestling. Some wrestlers adjust easier than others of course. The mindset brought to MMA from wrestling is the most helpful aspect in my opinion; from a coaches standpoint.
I know a former wrestler , a colleague of mine in his early 60s , he's a former car mechanic, recovering from cancer, rides his motorbike to and from work daily, about 30 minutes each way, used to ride in the annual London to Brighton bicycle ride for 10 years , is still very fit and strong. He credits his fitness for his recovery
Love this show
Wrestlers don’t fuck with wrestlers, we respect each other, so if a wrestler that can throw hands, I’m gonna respect him more, I loved that sport man. Damn
Exactly, this.
Tbh I never had to starve my self while wrestling but I can see the pain it the others faces and I knew they where just on another level of hell
I wrestled 7th through 12th grade... broke my HS (overhand) pull-up 44 and shoulder dip 45 record in 1974 (I was told last year that my dip record still stands) my Dad taught me to box / fight (including fighting with his Fairbairn Sikes, as he was OSS WWII)... I then wrestled at Slipper Rock U for Fred Powel (assistant Olympic coach) at 174 lbs. (rolled with the Ben and John Peterson brothers, Wayne Wells, Dan Gable, even Chris Taylor a few times), worked out and spared with the boxing team, fenced, did yoga, and weights (Bench 325, curl 175, military 165), ran more at SRU then I did in HS CC, ran a sub 5 mln mile and an 11 flat 100... after college I pushed Nautilus at Gary Reinl's Gym in NJ, (you may know him as Dr. No Ice) when I moved back to the Philly area, I worked out at Pat Croce's (of 76ers) gym, and had further weight lifting and work-out instruction from Eddie Coyle (Gold in the Para Olympics 1972 and 10 national championships and 23 world records)... shot hoops with Phil Maratelli (St Joe BB coach)... as we (Gary, Pat, Ed, and Phil) all grew up in Lansdowne, PA together... Was a Navy Seabee from '89 to '03, and held the NMCB 21 battalion position of forward observer... at 66 I still go through life healthy without fear, working out with a Gracie BJJ team... Andy Russel (BBJ instructor), Greg Ellis (shotput gold) Mark Wunderlich, (NBA ref), Charlene Morett-Curtiss (Olympic Gold, PSU Coach field Hockey) were all friends from Lansdowne too...
Strikers don't go through the grind of wrestling as often, the only ones I can think of are Thai strikers and the Kyokushin guys in Japan
Boxing is one of the hardest sports to practice, 98% of UFC guys would die just due to the amount of time you have to fight, 50 minutes of fighting with little breaks.
@Rukh there is a multiple world champion in muai thai that got beat up by grappler in one fc
@Rukh but some wrestlers and pure grappler are very tough
The wrestling room is intense. Being an insecure 11 year old in the middle school wrestling room was intimidated man. Good thing is that no one on that team could beat me the next year
Just 2 guys being bald
I wrestled with a friend 20 years ago and my heart rate has not been that crazy since then. My heart rate when I see a buck in the woods is crazy but it’s different.
I wrestled when I was in kindergarten and first grade and then I quit came back freshman year and got my ass kicked first tournament. Now in my sophomore year doing much better it’s quite a sport
When coach says it's an easy practice today so you only have to do a 4 mile warmup instead of 6😂
Its always better to teach a striker to wrestle than a wrestler to strike 🙌🏼
Teaching a wrestler to strike is lethal lol
I remember trying out wrestling and the 2 days I went. I remember having a pool of sweat on the Matt after doing warmups 😂😂. A full on practice was fun but it does wear you down especially as you get older lol.
Few things more dangerous than a wrestler who can strike. That’s some scary shit.
Yup Randy Couture was the first that was well rounded at it in UFC
Aaron Scott he’s in my top 5 favorites of all time. Having both literally means you’re dangerous at any time from anywhere.
"Embrace the gind"
Love the gind
The point being made is spot on a world class wrestler with no MMA experience will last longer maybe even win against some MMA fighters.
I wish I wrestled in high school/college instead of playing hockey, I would be so much better at BJJ now.
Glad I’m in wrestling
Carlos Cabrera same
Keep at it and happy hunting fellas
After wrestling, everything in life is easy- Dan Gable. I wrestled 7 years and I firmly believe if everyone had to endure a wrestling practice there would be a lot less complaining 😂
Keep at it bro. I quit my junior year in high school cause i took 2 losses and my ego took a hit. Leaving the team is stillone of my biggest regrets. But i left the mat with more knowledge to defend myself if i ever go to the ground
MilesDavis I fart a lot 💨 that’s why I don’t train. Because someone would grab me and I’d fart for 4 seconds.
Wrestling really does foster an alpha male mentality. It's great.
Even in high-school.
Constant misery made "worth it" by a few minutes of real competition. We lived for real matches, where we could prove we were top dog.
Even the games we played in the room. King of the Hill, after everyone was absolutely dogshit tired, proved who was the best in the team.
It was fucking awesome.