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    Today we surprise our Tesla Uber driver friend Dobson with your donations that have so far exceeded $13,000 to help fund his replacement battery cost as well as possibly get him back into a new LFP Tesla so he can continue providing the community with the data and metrics that come with driving an EV 120,000 miles per year. We also sit down with Dobson and read some of your comments, including those from a battery engineer and also a statement from Tesla on battery longevity.
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  • @ItsKimJava
    @ItsKimJava  Před 9 měsíci +149

    Tesla community!
    Thank you so much for your incredibly generous donations to Dobson. We’re currently helping him decide which Tesla to purchase next as he continues driving more than 10,000 miles per month. If you’ve appreciated his insights, transparency and willingness to share invaluable data with the community, please consider helping grow the Gofundme linked here. Every dollar helps. ► gofund.me/83a22ccb

    • @suresh_elonbro
      @suresh_elonbro Před 9 měsíci +10

      please make a video about the maintenance cost on the tesla in this year driving 100k miles vs maintenance cost on his previous gas car. we have to look at total cost of ownership

    • @GhostOfBillCooper
      @GhostOfBillCooper Před 9 měsíci +1

      Why a new Tesla? Shouldn't he just get a new battery?

    • @ItsKimJava
      @ItsKimJava  Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@suresh_elonbrocovered this extensively in previous videos with Dobson. See links in description.

    • @NickWindham
      @NickWindham Před 9 měsíci

      You’re the best

    • @economistfromhell4877
      @economistfromhell4877 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Fantastic work by everyone! However…..I can feel a spreadsheet coming on……seriously the options needs to be spreadsheeted ….particularly the double Tesla option and the sleep/family time drive option plus head to head against the Camry? Would be great….let me know if I can help?

  • @kottuning3294
    @kottuning3294 Před 9 měsíci +104

    This was the best 100 I ever donated :) I felt very good helping Dobson as he's an extremely hard worker and just a good person

    • @TheBoxster1998
      @TheBoxster1998 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Should've donated that money for a good cause. Like helping out the homeless or orphanage. He can afford a $900 dollar car payment and lives in a decent housing. So, what happens when the battery goes to sh*t again? Are you going to donate more money so he can get another TESLA? What I see here is you fell for their BS..I heard he wants the Cybertruck. So, you might want to donate 1k so he can afford it.

    • @RandomAlias1
      @RandomAlias1 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@TheBoxster1998 Truth hurts. You said it well. It is what it is.

    • @Sheepmansheep
      @Sheepmansheep Před 8 měsíci

      @TheBoxster1998 normal good people deserve help too assholes. what have you given to? nothing lol.

    • @cantwealljustgetalong2
      @cantwealljustgetalong2 Před 7 měsíci +3

      lots of people are hard workers and good people...doesnt mean they deserve a free 60,000 dollar car

  • @Daily-Ai-Driver
    @Daily-Ai-Driver Před 9 měsíci +152

    Very generous of you putting this together, Kim. He's an honest, hard working man and deserves everything you're doing for him!!

  • @raphaelmawoh6103
    @raphaelmawoh6103 Před 9 měsíci +24

    There is another thing to talk about besides the battery.
    Change the oil of your drive unit after 100,000 miles!
    Even when Tesla says it's good for a lifetime and the oil quality is monitored.
    An oil analysis showed that there is a significant ware, and new oil will help to reduce this significantly.
    Surly depends on your driving style...
    Please help to vote this up, so that the pro drivers will read this also.

  • @WestCoastChicano
    @WestCoastChicano Před 9 měsíci +52

    It was an honor to donate to this deserving man. 👍

  • @ohlordethan4170
    @ohlordethan4170 Před 9 měsíci +30

    Why am I smiling this much?! Hope in humanity restored 💯

  • @jaylxxxi1908
    @jaylxxxi1908 Před 9 měsíci +19

    Tesla should hire Dobson as a QA field tester.

  • @intcman9444
    @intcman9444 Před 9 měsíci +82

    As a family that owns three Tesla's and having more than 20 Teslas throughout our extended family here in California, his experience is probably the most important that the Tesla community can learn from considering the motivation for the manufacturer to claim the absolute best case scenario with respect of their batteries is very high. I would love to see Dobson register his car with recurrent in order to monitor his charging and drive pattern in order to have targeted analytics that can be collected from his car. Also there is an application called scan my Tesla that I started using in my 2016 model x 90d that I think he could definitely benefit from. That would also show him the condition, the voltage and the capacity of the battery at all times while he's driving.

    • @natnathutchins
      @natnathutchins Před 9 měsíci +5

      Ditto! ❤Tessie family of three!!

    • @scifithoughts3611
      @scifithoughts3611 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Great advice! Analytics is important to a pro user.

    • @josevazquez3427
      @josevazquez3427 Před 7 měsíci +1

      How do you charge your Tesla’s at home???😅 Do the California State Gov allows you to charge them ALL at once or certain times per week?

    • @lancerkind
      @lancerkind Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@josevazquez3427 Given that charging an EV uses about the same energy as running a large AC, the California government can't actually stop you from charging your car however you want. The power company can request certain usage patterns and charge extra during peak hours. I've not heard any news about Californian government caring when and how many EVs you can use at home. I would be skeptical if someone said otherwise as they are probably being manipulative.

    • @daveblock
      @daveblock Před 6 měsíci

      Douche family

  • @gerrycrisostomo6571
    @gerrycrisostomo6571 Před 9 měsíci +19

    This only proves that the Tesla community, those who own Teslas, fans of Tesla, youtubers of Tesla, enthusiasts and everyone who contributed to this project are AWESOME PEOPLE! This is such a good deed to a fellow human being and a good person. May God bless you all abundantly and keep you safe and happy.

    • @TheBoxster1998
      @TheBoxster1998 Před 9 měsíci +4

      NOPE. You know who's awesome? People helping the homeless and kids on the street. Not some dude that can afford a $900 dollar car payment and lives in a decent housing. Give me a break.

    • @gerrycrisostomo6571
      @gerrycrisostomo6571 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@TheBoxster1998 And how do you know that these people are not also doing the same? If they are generous enough to help that Uber driver then most probably they are also generous enough to help the homeless people and kids on the street like what you said, but they are humble enough to not let the people know about their good deeds. What's wrong with haters like you is you don't see the goodness in the hearts of other people because all you know is hate and evil. And most probably, you are also not keen on using your brain. 😂😂😄😄

    • @topranked5465
      @topranked5465 Před 4 měsíci +3

      "Lets help this guy so elon doesn't look bad"

  • @johnthorpe459
    @johnthorpe459 Před 9 měsíci +13

    Hi , great to see the Tesla community helping Dobson out . I’m in the uk and drive a 2015 model s on uber and contract work I’ve had my car around 5 years and now have 255,000 miles on the clock and currently still on my original battery ,
    Keep going Dobson

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac Před 4 měsíci

      What is your charging routine and daily mileage?

    • @johnthorpe459
      @johnthorpe459 Před 4 měsíci

      @@rcpmac hi I supercharge usually twice sometimes three times a week but only to around 80 to 90% and the rest of the time I charge from home

  • @hikintrailsndrinkinales
    @hikintrailsndrinkinales Před 9 měsíci +17

    One Tesla Uber driver to another. Keep at it Dobson! You are helping gather the data and sequentially helping change the world! May you get many more smiles with the passing miles.

  • @Ariel51_artist
    @Ariel51_artist Před 9 měsíci +59

    Genuinely warms my heart. Dude deserves it.

  • @Yachtzeee
    @Yachtzeee Před 9 měsíci +37

    Proud of Kim and fellow community members for doing such a generous thing for a great human! ❤️

  • @CarlitoswayDR
    @CarlitoswayDR Před 9 měsíci +18

    I think Dobson would be a great CZcamsr as well and make a living on it. His interactions are smart and precise as well as a great personality

    • @cangle37
      @cangle37 Před 9 měsíci +3

      I would watch

    • @erick_bst
      @erick_bst Před 9 měsíci +1

      I would subscribe and watch too.

  • @tomstraveling2672
    @tomstraveling2672 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Hi. I donated previously to the gofundme for Dobson. Watching this video I think you all are reading too much into one data point. Sometimes there is a less than perfect battery pack and placing it under stress like this will cause that to become apparent and fail. Like any car part that was less than perfect.
    The solution is simple. Drive for the 1 year with the new battery pack warranty. Charge at home to 80%-90% then do one supercharger during the work day to 80% making sure the battery is preconditioned as appropriate. If there is no significant battery issues after 1 year, keep this Tesla.
    If you want to upgrade after 1 year for whatever reason, get an LFP battery Model 3. Charge to 100% overnight at home then do 90%-95% on supercharger (precondition as appropriate) during the day when running the ride shares so you get home at 10%-20% left. You will be fine. No need to run two cars.
    Don't over complicate the matter.

  • @Yanquetino
    @Yanquetino Před 9 měsíci +17

    So very kind of you, Kim and PJ! I'd be happier, however, if Tesla stepped up to the plate for Dobson rather than having to ask owners for donations. What you said is true: the community is amazing. I just wish Tesla were. BTW, the kitchen logo over your head is perfect for your videos: "JOY"!

    • @NickWindham
      @NickWindham Před 9 měsíci +8

      In the video he does say Tesla called him to bring his battery in for repair again but this time on Tesla and gave him that S loaner. I can’t imagine her videos didn’t help make Tesla at least do this for him.

    • @xiaoka
      @xiaoka Před 8 měsíci

      He earned a lot of money driving 100k miles in a year. Replacing his battery for only $9k is a bargain compared to what he saved on oil changes and gas.
      A one year warranty on the replacement battery is effectively another 100k warranty. That alone is very valuable for him.

  • @fiawoojoseph5851
    @fiawoojoseph5851 Před 9 měsíci +8

    I watch the last video,he was very polite with everything.
    He deserves it.
    Watching from Ghana 🇬🇭

  • @ciaotesla
    @ciaotesla Před 9 měsíci +14

    The battery engineer is correct, charging fast at higher %, it degrades the battery chemistry, because the battery is constantly been used. When you charge fast with higher frequency you are basically squeezing the degradation of several years in one year like in this case. You are basically doing a load test in a real scenario.

  • @elsersosa
    @elsersosa Před 9 měsíci +13

    Kuddos to the TESLA community ! Kudos to you AS WELL KIM !!!!!!

  • @EVMANVSGAS
    @EVMANVSGAS Před 9 měsíci +7

    I'd say start out at 100% charge with a new LFP model. Once it is getting low, supercharge to the minimum you need for the rest of the day. Then when your day is over go home and slow charge it to 100% overnight. Then repeat. You shouldn't need to charge that high at the supercharger to finish the day and it shouldn't be nearly as bad on the battery.

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac Před 4 měsíci

      Well some strategy like that might be helpful. He did mention in the previous video that he supercharges 2x daily

  • @Mrtomtomman2000
    @Mrtomtomman2000 Před 9 měsíci +9

    This summed it up pretty well if you are going to be mainly supercharging this will degrade your battery a lot faster. The best for Dobson is stay with his current model 3 for a year whilst the battery is in warranty and put another 100k on the battery. Try to supercharge maybe once a day between 30 to 80% to be on the safe side and then mainly charge at home. After a year get the LFP Model 3, which hopefully will be the refreshed model 3. I think weighing all the options are good. Maybe it might be good to create a community on X where people like Dobson can share their findings and the rest of us can have input too. We will then have an up to date report to share with everyone including Tesla, which will hopefully push innovation.

    • @Sindrijo
      @Sindrijo Před 9 měsíci +1

      If supercharging is such a concern at some point it starts making sense to just buy two cars and rotate between them during the day and obviously only do trickle charging.

    • @monkeysuncle2816
      @monkeysuncle2816 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Sindrijo ^this. I watched a video that said for OPTIMAL battery longevity, start charging about 65%, and no higher than 85%. While this isn't an option for a 300 mile a day driver like this, this method is reportedly able to reach usable lifespans of 23 YEARS.

  • @Alexzw92
    @Alexzw92 Před 9 měsíci +6

    16:20 that is really annoying that Tesla is giving out mixed messages.
    On one hand they show data that supercharging does no more damage to a battery than charging at home.
    And then you have techs out there telling people not to supercharge more than 2x per month.
    That’s stupid.
    (I’m a TSLA shareholder)

  • @Aundra34
    @Aundra34 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I’m still getting 94% after a year and 4 months. I drive to Nashville from Atlanta about once a month. I try to supercharge from 20 to 60% and plug in at my mom’s house and the same for my return. I’ve made 4 trips to Louisville and once to Miami. I have 39,696 miles driven on my ’22 Model X long range. I usually charge to 70-75% for daily driving.

  • @MikeDeezy_100
    @MikeDeezy_100 Před 9 měsíci +6

    A great update just around the holidays. Thanks to all that made this possible for him. It’s nice to see some good in the world.

  • @dyhppyx
    @dyhppyx Před 9 měsíci +7

    Kim thank you for trying to get answers. This is frustrating for sure. I’m a scientist and this issue still puzzles me. We need to know from the engineers who designed the battery because the data is conflicting. Fast charging should hurt the battery but the data we have so far isn’t showing the damage I would expect. Maybe that’s due to the cooling system. Maybe the heat from an extended 80-90% charge cycle is causing an issue. We don’t have enough data to know. I personally have 174,000 miles on my 2018 3 performance nmc and usually supercharge once a day up to 60-70%. Everything is still working for now but who knows.

    • @chrisharvey3202
      @chrisharvey3202 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thank you for sharing the info on your 2018 M3. Its good to know you can get 174,000 while supercharging daily, even if it is only to 70%.

    • @dyhppyx
      @dyhppyx Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@chrisharvey3202 I've charged it higher many times like 94% etc but just giving an average.

  • @mike168168
    @mike168168 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Regarding the battery charge habits, I think Tesla is trying to not mention it as much as possible. People already have range anxiety with EVs. Add the potential battery issues some of them might skip EVs altogether.

  • @pjdambra
    @pjdambra Před 9 měsíci +5

    Kim you are awesome for organizing this for Dodson. Tesla needs to treat its customers with more compassion. I love My Teslas but although I’ve personally had good luck with them, I’m afraid to drive without any warranty protection. This is why I traded my 18 M3 for a 23 MY.

  • @g.pearson4726
    @g.pearson4726 Před 4 měsíci +3

    This was so beautiful
    He seems like a really nice man
    Wishing him the best

  • @DrEarbuds
    @DrEarbuds Před 9 měsíci +8

    This is the most important information Tesla can gather from the field from a real driver . Stress testing Batteries doing ride shares . LFP batteries is a good option on paper but it haven't been tested by Dobson yet

    • @TheRealEdgarSantana
      @TheRealEdgarSantana Před 9 měsíci +5

      I’m actually ahead of him I’m testing it now. I bought a Tesla model y brand new 2023 a month ago already at 10k miles

    • @chrisharvey3202
      @chrisharvey3202 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@TheRealEdgarSantana I think supercharging daily will cut even LFP battery in half. Level 2 charging is the key to long battery life.

  • @gileneusz
    @gileneusz Před 9 měsíci +4

    first of all - buy Model Y with LFP Blade batteries - they charge crazy fast, so for a taxi driver, it's super important

  • @LuisSantos-bp5pk
    @LuisSantos-bp5pk Před 9 měsíci +7

    Great work Kim! So glad you got the money for him!. By the way I think it would be easier for him to just lease the car from Uber instead of buying it.

  • @marianbadea369
    @marianbadea369 Před 8 měsíci +2

    This guy is such a genuine person!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @timtreadaway8303
    @timtreadaway8303 Před 9 měsíci +5

    So cool. He seemed so very nice and a genuine guy. Could not be helping out a nicer person.

  • @addicusbrown
    @addicusbrown Před 9 měsíci +2

    So I watched this video and the previous video this morning. My 2022 Model 3 LR started telling me not to charge past 80% last week (we charge to 90% overnight at home). Then it stopped charging at all. Got it to the Tesla Repair shop today and voila... The battery is dead at 35,000 miles. Getting a replacement battery under warranty. I asked if it's new or refurbished and they think it's a new production pack. I have only supercharged the car a few times in 2 years. Our 2017 Model S 75D has 106k miles without a battery issue.

  • @medawson01
    @medawson01 Před 9 měsíci +12

    This is wonderful! I almost cried.

  • @winstonallthingselectrical837
    @winstonallthingselectrical837 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I still stand by my suggestion of a 2019 or 2020, Model S or X 100D or long range... with the 8 year unlimited mile warranty on the powertrain and battery... You can find them for under $40k now... So happy we could help him out!!! He seems like a really awesome guy!!!

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac Před 4 měsíci

      Wow that’s a fantastic idea! Also, is there legacy free supercharging on early models?

  • @JeanPierreWhite
    @JeanPierreWhite Před 9 měsíci +3

    Dobson for President!!
    Now he has the money to reimburse him for the replacement battery we need to give more so he has enough to put down on a new Tesla with LFP battery so he can trade in his current Tesla.
    Tesla reaching out to look at the battery again has clearly nothing to do with the last video. ;-) I hope Tesla chooses to put a new battery in as a goodwill gesture, they've got the $9k, taking care of Dobson is the right thing to do. If Tesla can't bring themselves to do the right thing, then they should put a new battery, it will be in their best interests to do so the next video is in their favor.

  • @dwaynejava
    @dwaynejava Před 9 měsíci +6

    Wow... Kim... you are pretty awesome. You are inspiring me. This is humanity at its best. Helping this man out... I might donate a little myself.

  • @t.r.766
    @t.r.766 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Dobson there will always be people who will never get in a car with out a driver. Getting two Teslas could be the best answer for your business.You can write off the expense or better yet lease the cars.

  • @heatherschandera8403
    @heatherschandera8403 Před 9 měsíci +4

    guy has 2020 RAV4 hybrid 440,000 miles on Reddit still on original nickel medal hydride battery still getting 40 mpg when you drive very high miles just drive a Toyota hybrid saves on gas and very reliable also to replace hybrid battery only cost 5k then cars good as new Tesla only good for average driving only Toyota made for high mileage drivers

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yeah! Literally I see most I mean all Uber and a lot of taxis here in Germany are all Toyotas from Corolla to Camry to rav4 to yaris all hybrids. Even the super old Prius plus from 2013 are still mostly on the roads.

  • @troublelessone7999
    @troublelessone7999 Před 9 měsíci +10

    what a great gift right around the holidays.. that's why I subscribed. Kim your channel is so thoughtful.. I'm so glad to be one of the donors, and love what you're doing to help this man.

    • @ItsKimJava
      @ItsKimJava  Před 9 měsíci +5

      Thanks so much for donating and your kind words!

  • @mcunha81
    @mcunha81 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Home charging seems to be 2021 LR 3 battery happiness,lol ,in 2 years and over 30k Miles ,I've only lost .6 of a % of battery deg. Charging 99.9% at home .

  • @andyzegerman
    @andyzegerman Před 9 měsíci +5

    It is so much fun to give, warms my heart to see him.

  • @ojobee
    @ojobee Před 9 měsíci +4

    You guys are kind souls. Thank you.
    Teach him to open a channel too produced by you guys.

  • @radicalrick9587
    @radicalrick9587 Před 9 měsíci +3

    *OMG! I just looked at how long this video was and I can't believe I actually sat through that whole thing! It didn't feel like it was that long.*

  • @khuo0219
    @khuo0219 Před 9 měsíci +4

    glad to be a part of it. I hope this turns out to be a net positive story for Tesla owners of all types.

  • @anmarams
    @anmarams Před 9 měsíci +5

    Yes, having two Teslas is a must for a full time driver - working with one while the other one slow-charging at home. So it's like swapping batteries on the go which is what the robo-taxi procedure is most likely going to be like. Plus reducing wear and tear on both cars, hence longevity.

    • @djplonghead5403
      @djplonghead5403 Před 9 měsíci

      Makes sense but rather expensive.

    • @rahuljha3965
      @rahuljha3965 Před 9 měsíci

      Everyone is not privileged as muskitior

    • @ConorPorter
      @ConorPorter Před 8 měsíci

      $70k-100k is your solution to the battery problem?

    • @mistymu8154
      @mistymu8154 Před 4 měsíci

      Some of these suggestions of getting a second Tesla as a solution is just complete dillusion.

  • @gnkstudios6138
    @gnkstudios6138 Před 9 měsíci +9

    They gave you a Model S Dobson, because the Tesla team saw Kims videos lol

    • @fredbecker607
      @fredbecker607 Před 4 měsíci

      It might be a version of better customer service. He shows a good attitude, and their product failed him. Gave an upgraded loaner.

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Před 9 měsíci +2

    VERY HAPPY 🎉 FOR DOBSON 🤗 Just a fyi
    A new model Y is easier to get in and out of for old people… and has more room to haul luggage with the hatchback🤗👍💚💚💚

  • @cellman1829
    @cellman1829 Před 9 měsíci +12

    What a humble guy and you Kim and your husband are great people because of this I am going to subscribe to your channel. Thank you to both of you to making good content.

  • @grahamfowke
    @grahamfowke Před 9 měsíci +4

    Great video and a very worthy cause - but as said by several others, perhaps Tesla should step up and at least change the battery for free or provide a new car for Dobson to continue to promote through ride shares.
    Just a thought on the Supercharging - does Dobson select the superchargers as a destination as he is going to supercharge so that his car can know to precondition the battery for Supercharging. My guess is that he knows all available supercharging destinations so drives there without use of navigation and turns up at the Superchargers without the battery preconditioned, which may cause additional stress on the battery.
    Keep up the great work Kim and PJ!

  • @MrCPPG
    @MrCPPG Před 9 měsíci +27

    Kim you are such a sweet person for helping him out. I am glad I am a subscriber.

  • @brendykes1202
    @brendykes1202 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I already do one of Kim’s ride-share suggestions. I drive one EV until the battery is low and if I need to keep going, I switch to the other EV. MYLR & Bolt. Neither is charged to 100% and DCFC is rare outside of road trips. I am concerned about the MYLR battery warranty. 58k miles in two years.

  • @AdrianRoncea-od4qy
    @AdrianRoncea-od4qy Před 8 měsíci +1

    honestly the hybrids are the best solution for today because battery technology is not developed enough for those kinds of usages,I dont think that gas powered vehicles will dissapear because of this.

  • @Southbeachsunrise
    @Southbeachsunrise Před 9 měsíci +4

    Model 3 2022 LFP rwd 96k mileage and still 263miles at fully charged. Even it dropped to 234miles at one point but it came back up later slowly with a slower charge.

    • @Flyingwigs
      @Flyingwigs Před 6 měsíci

      This is a tidbit i think they missed in the video, the LFP battery management system uses coulomb counting for state of charge readings. By letting the battery get to 100% for longer periods, it calibrates the management system. Without regular calibration it can lose track of battery state and give you an underrated range. The comment about lost range didn't say how he was charging, was it to 100 regularly? 🤷

  • @bobtay8847
    @bobtay8847 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Kim, when I was purchasing my 2023 Model 3 Standard Range, the technical staff and the rep. adamantly told me not to charge at super charger more than once a week at the most. This was six months ago. I am trickle charging at home 90 percent of time, and occasionally I add 30 percent at supercharger just to get my battery acclimated to such high amp. That again is once every two weeks adding only 30-35 percent.

  • @taiwoegun1288
    @taiwoegun1288 Před 9 měsíci +2

    9:38 dude the community as a whole learned a lot from this guy and his testing. I’m sure Tesla gained a lot of knowledge from it too. More to come.

  • @Turtle3000
    @Turtle3000 Před 9 měsíci +2

    As someone who relies solely on the Supercharger network, I’m scared now. I was led on to believe it was okay. I live in an apartment and I don’t think I can get home charging. I charge 2-3 times a week. Roughly every 2-3 days. :/

    • @DarthDeth
      @DarthDeth Před 9 měsíci +2

      Well what you can do now is make sure you don’t charge to 100% often and keep state of charge between 40-60%

  • @PeterTeehan
    @PeterTeehan Před 5 měsíci +1

    11:53 I Drive for Uber as well through the Hertz Rental program. I live in Colorado, Colorado Springs. Our city and state is massive. I average about 200 miles a day. In order to have effective day Uber drivers are forced to charge up to 100%. Reason being if it's a busy day like most days, we won't have time to stop and spend extra time and money then go back out. In essence we are sacrificing the health of the battery for the success of the day.

  • @commuterbranchline8132
    @commuterbranchline8132 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Wow, amazing support from the Tesla community! I wonder if you guys would support a ‘Dobson Drives?’ Quarterly update or a stand alone channel? The new 2024 M3 SR LFP has an 11% increase in range due to improved aerodynamics. That would ne just the ticket 👍

  • @MrArtist7777
    @MrArtist7777 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Good to point out that Dobson's original battery, in his M3, was defective, Tesla NMC batteries last MUCH longer than what he got. Yes, the LFP batteries have longer cycle lives but, they have lower range so if your compare mile-to-mile cycle, the NMC is very similar to the LFP. LFP does sound better for him though, with his almost-constant charging and discharging.

  • @FlockoftheGreyShepherd
    @FlockoftheGreyShepherd Před 9 měsíci +3

    I heard that LFP should be charged to 80% for maximum longevity too. The 100% charge at least once a week recommendation is just to calibrate the state of charge / mileage estimation.

    • @LittleSpot
      @LittleSpot Před 9 měsíci

      I think this M3 from Dobson has a NCM Battery. So it has only 1000 cycle till 80% DoD. Charging twice a day means 600 cycles in 300 days. LFP would be much better it has more than 3000 cylces

  • @sunshine0282
    @sunshine0282 Před 9 měsíci +4

    It says in fine print: you cannot use the 6 mo free charging promo for rideshare. Yeah Tesla definitely needs to hire Dobson to test the robotaxi. And NO Tesla or any other EV company will never tell you these truths straight up - this would be bad for their business. Regardless, I, and we all should, still support Tesla. They'll get it right at some point in time. Or, a newcomer will.

  • @Dubitz
    @Dubitz Před 9 měsíci +2

    22:30 I also have a late 2021 Model 3 SR+ with the LFP batteries here in NJ, and after 50k miles (normal commuting with occasional once-every-other-month Supercharging) I've lost about 15 miles of rated range at 100%, from 250 miles at time of purchase to now 235 miles. Current EV batteries are like Goldilocks if you think about it, they want to be kept 'just right'.
    Like you stated in the video, for best life expectancy for EVs it's all about keeping the batteries "healthy" all the time. The main culprit is allowing them to get too hot, too cold, or left at too high SoC or too low SoC. Charging batteries rapidly causes them to get very hot, and this is the main culprit in Dobson's ride-share situation. DC Fast Charging every once in a while is completely fine, but doing it every day (let alone multiple times per day) is absolutely straining the batteries and lowering their lifespan in the long run.
    Dobson's situation is very new and unique. If money was no option, I think he should keep his current 3 and also get a new LFP RWD 3. This way one can charge at home at Level 2 speeds, use the other until it gets low, & go back and switch cars to charge the other while he's out again. You've now eliminated the root cause of DC Fast Charging frying these EV batteries and will get so much more life out of them (at the cost of owning two cars though).
    Also like to add since it's mentioned at 28:56 that my LFP Model 3 has an 8 year 100,00 mile warranty. It was one of the first batch of LFP cars in the US before the "SR+" switched to "RWD" on the website (I got mine via a limited existing inventory that I think were battery packs shipped from Giga Shanghai and installed in Fremont 3s but don't quote me on that lol)

  • @Aundra34
    @Aundra34 Před 9 měsíci +5

    He could supplement home charging by supercharging to 50-60% before home charging. It should be easier on the battery at the lower percentage.

    • @arubaga
      @arubaga Před 9 měsíci +1

      Exactly. Supercharge to 60%, then slow charge it to 80%. This should protect the battery for this Uber driver.

  • @JeremyNoelJohnson
    @JeremyNoelJohnson Před 9 měsíci +2

    To me, it all comes down to battery costs. Right now, we are in the early('ish) adoption phase of EVs and there just aren't enough batteries and materials for batteries, therefore, battery costs are high.
    I do believe in the future that batteries will become very cheap and better than they are today. For people that end up using their cars like Dobson here, where they need a new battery every few years, I see battery replacements costing only a few thousand dollars and being a simple 2-hour wait at a Tesla service center. This will also be how a robotaxi is viable - because its battery can be replaced for a low cost and the old battery can be recycled into a new battery.
    Battery recycling is the key - we need to reach a volume where we aren't having to spend the majority of time and resources on mining new materials for batteries, but we are instead recycling old batteries to create new one's. This is why Redwood Materials is so important.

  • @widgeonrblx8543
    @widgeonrblx8543 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Yall are the best tesla CZcamsrs out there 🎉

  • @Maddack
    @Maddack Před 9 měsíci +5

    Should Tesla add a "supercharge slowly" option, at least when the supercharger has plenty of stalls free?

    • @anmarams
      @anmarams Před 9 měsíci +1

      There's already that, called level 2 and level 1 charging speed. But for an Uber driver, waiting longer to charge is not for his benefit, lose time equals lose money.

    • @Maddack
      @Maddack Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@anmarams I was thinking max 75 kW when you have plenty of time.

  • @cristianousa8833
    @cristianousa8833 Před 9 měsíci +2

    KimJava : Why doesn't he wait for the new model 3 long rang? I believe it would be a great option, he will have a completely new car with all the guarantees, including the Long Rang battery .

  • @stanleyr1527
    @stanleyr1527 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Why not buy a New Model S. with a 4 yr/50,000 mi basic, 8 yr/unlimited mi powertrain warranty?

  • @wgs256614
    @wgs256614 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Where is the GoFundMe link? Would love to help hardworking Dobson!

    • @ItsKimJava
      @ItsKimJava  Před 9 měsíci +2

      In description and pinned comment . Thanks!

  • @robertmorgan2219
    @robertmorgan2219 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Blame the Consumer = not the thing to do, consumers are never to blame for designed in points of failures

  • @Atlridesharejay
    @Atlridesharejay Před 9 měsíci +2

    I don’t agree with Tesla giving 5M Rideshare drivers Tesla’s but they could offer them at lower lease rates than what they currently do with Hertz with the understanding that they’re assisting with a long term experiment.

    • @ab-tf5fl
      @ab-tf5fl Před 9 měsíci

      It wouldn't be all 5 million rideshare drivers, just a few lucky ones, perhaps chosen by lottery.

  • @SaifAliMaster
    @SaifAliMaster Před měsícem

    We drive around 10k miles a year and we’ve had to replace our battery on our 2021 Model Y twice. We had one replaced at 25k miles in December 2023 and now in July 2024, it’s currently at the service center getting the battery replaced again at 32k miles. This is my first and last Tesla.

  • @neilufe
    @neilufe Před 6 měsíci +1

    Tesla model s 2020 built in January and under has unlimited mile warranty 8 years powertrain and motor.

  • @evotorentals
    @evotorentals Před 9 měsíci +1

    Amazing story. Dobson is a champ! I think it boils down to cycles. Every technology from DVD players to EVs have a number of cycles it will run. Even the eject button had a number of cycles. This could be 10,000 cycles or 100,000 cycles. Supercharging twice a day will cut the time it takes to do those cycles in half.

  • @PLATINUM2U
    @PLATINUM2U Před 9 měsíci +10

    That is awesome 😎

  • @tennesseetrucker1921
    @tennesseetrucker1921 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I have a 2023 Standard range Model 3 LFP bought February of this year. I've put 30,131 miles on it since new. Y-T-D 64% home charging & 36% supercharging. showing 4 miles degradation so far, however, I must point out that it consistently underestimates available range. I'm consistently getting 200 Wh/mile & 300 miles of range out of full battery. Impressive, considering that new it was rated at 268 miles full charge. I have the sport wheels. I'm curious to know if anyone else with same model is experiencing similar performance.

    • @Southbeachsunrise
      @Southbeachsunrise Před 9 měsíci +2

      Hi friend, I’ve got the same one as you but mine is 2022 96kmiles now (263miles fully charged) and I only charge at tesla supercharger all the time. I have tried all the 3 levels charging experience.
      72kw is the best for our car battery at any percentage to charge.
      For the 250kw I’ve noticed if I charge with under 20% that will reduce the range (about 1-10miles). But I tried mine with 8%, 10%, 13% and charge at this 250kw level then it dropped 8-10miles of range if people keep charge at this level with 150or250, the battery range will keep decrease more and more. In order to get the range back you have to charge with 72kw only, that’s from my almost 100k miles experience

    • @tennesseetrucker1921
      @tennesseetrucker1921 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Southbeachsunrise That's good information. Thanks for sharing. Have you experienced your car underestimating your range, or giving significantly more than the estimated range? just curious.

    • @Southbeachsunrise
      @Southbeachsunrise Před 9 měsíci

      The tesla navigation is quite accurate on calculating how much % we will have left when arriving at the destination.
      Also, sometimes I don’t know why but when I have between 5%-15% battery left and just park for 30mins, I’ve noticed the car battery could rise back up 2% to 5% more.
      For example, if you have 10% left and park the car, wait 30mins you could see it up to 15% lol so yeah it could be under and over estimated

    • @tennesseetrucker1921
      @tennesseetrucker1921 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Southbeachsunrise That's good info. I really appreciate you sharing your experiences. Rather than monitoring battery percentage or estimated miles remaining, I tend to monitor Wh/mile on each charge. I suspect the reason the car under estimates remaining % is because it perhaps is basing that in large part on avg Wh/mile over the lifetime of the car, rather than since last charge. the more miles on the car, as in your case, I would suspect that lifetime avg Wh/mile is closer to what you actually do on a daily basis. My lifetime avg is 235Wh/mile, however, Lately I've driven the car conservatively and seeing more like 200Wh/mile. Evidently, the car has no problem reporting amount of energy that it actually uses per mile, but, estimating available range is a bit more sketchy, and therefore it appears the software is programmed to estimate with a bit of cautiousness.

    • @Southbeachsunrise
      @Southbeachsunrise Před 9 měsíci

      My life time is not much different with yours, 239 Wh/mi and I drive avg on the freeway 65-80mph without aero wheels
      Overall, I still believe that the new battery technology that tesla has been using (LFP) is definitely much better quality than the NMC one. ☝🏽

  • @adelkamal45
    @adelkamal45 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Kim, I went online to look at the Tesla model three I was trying to see if I could buy one when I looked at it and had like 1000 2000 miles on them then I looked at the battery. I don’t know what year these cars at but they have like 5000 miles left on the batteries I wanna know why these cars have low mileage like 1000 mile to 2000 mile and for selling them for 3040 and $50,000, why you have old batteries on these cars

  • @t.shonoiki563
    @t.shonoiki563 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Model Y long range is the way to go if you're doing a ride share with it.
    You're right about the EV being two. That was what I endup doing with my Nissan Leaf when I started using them in 2017. Now I still keep one Nissan leaf with my Model Y long range.

  • @theodavies8754
    @theodavies8754 Před 9 měsíci +2

    The great pyramid of California.
    It's going to focus energy from the cosmos and turn it into cash.

  • @seektounderstand
    @seektounderstand Před 5 měsíci

    Drove a 2022 100k miles , always supercharging but always preconditioned before going to the supercharging for at least 15 minutes. After 100k miles the car will still show 272 miles when fully charged . LFP standard model 3 2022 and 2023 are the best .

  • @cb8850
    @cb8850 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Love it! You rock, Kim!

  • @anthonymacharola5893
    @anthonymacharola5893 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I have a 2023 model 3 LFP. The range drop referenced in my experience was just the cars estimate. I’ve seen this where the battery management system needed to be calibrated (what happens when you charge to 100%). Degradation on the LFP seems to be very very minimal!

    • @Flyingwigs
      @Flyingwigs Před 6 měsíci

      Calibration can also take quite some time at 100% as it's balancing all of the cells to full. LFP cells have very little voltage sag under load unlike NMC cells, so the BMS has to track power in and power out and over time it loses track to internal losses. Hence why they like going to 100 for a while regularly

  • @im4udevco
    @im4udevco Před 9 měsíci +1

    Please leave the go fund me for another week or so to share. Didn't watch the previous show but very touched by it. Thank you.

  • @franklong6269
    @franklong6269 Před 4 měsíci

    I was touched by the gofundme gift to this guy. He seems to be a good guy, with a family. I admire his diligent work ethic. He definitely needs to get the LFP Model 3. It is a FAR more durable, long-lasting battery. I have the 2022 Model 3 with the LFP battery with 77,000 miles on it. It has the LFP batteries, the FSD computer and matrix headlights. It has approximately 96% of its original capacity.
    I just bought it used, but so far, it is doing really well. I have put about 500 miles on it so far. The range goes down in the heat. But I am guessing I would get around 225 miles on a full charge. This is less than my 261 range, but AZ is very hot, and I drive fast.

  • @dtriplett03
    @dtriplett03 Před 9 měsíci

    Guys, Tesla is(can) limit the Rate of Charge = to Home Charging. 🏡 30-50kWh Supercharging stations are fine to use. Like me, & my 2020 M3, Uber3 driver, 80k milage so far 200miles range. ❤

  • @aaronbounds1336
    @aaronbounds1336 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Model S has a 405 mile range presently. It all depends on the duty cycle, but 80% of 400 is 320. Is 320 miles per day enough? That should be a full 12 hour rideshare shift, and then it can recharge while you rest, for six or seven hours. It’s a NMC chemistry, but if you only L2 charge it, you might get the full 3-400K out of it.

    • @chrisharvey3202
      @chrisharvey3202 Před 9 měsíci

      I think this may be the best option. Level 2 charging is how you get that high mileage out of a battery.

    • @scottbreseke716
      @scottbreseke716 Před 9 měsíci

      Do a partial charge while having lunch, and a partial charge during bathroom breaks.

  • @laurentiupetre5620
    @laurentiupetre5620 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Now you can buy the Camry back 😂

  • @Comrade-q5o
    @Comrade-q5o Před 9 měsíci +3

    Elon needs to see this

  • @jjj32801
    @jjj32801 Před 9 měsíci +1

    89,000 miles on my 5 1/2 year old LR Model 3. Battery has degraded 20%. Only SC on trips so 95% of charging is home on a 110 outlet. Battery Warranty expires July 2026 or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first. Has to be under 70% to get coverage. Hope I can take advantage of warranty.

  • @ap114
    @ap114 Před 9 měsíci +10

    You guys are great.

  • @gaetanguimond1911
    @gaetanguimond1911 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Even if LFP can be charge 2 times more cycle, since they have less range, you will not double the milleage.

  • @CowboyOdie
    @CowboyOdie Před 9 měsíci +1

    Me: "If the lottery is less than $300M, I don't play."
    Dobson gets a check for $13k: "I just won the lottery."
    I want to be more like Dobson.

  • @MarcesAurelius
    @MarcesAurelius Před 9 měsíci +3

    swopping-out between two Teslas, sounds interesting and has the consideration of higher insurance costs

    • @cp6027
      @cp6027 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Exactly, this is not good for the bottom line of his business.

  • @chenavd
    @chenavd Před 9 měsíci +2

    Maybe Tesla should give 1 year FSD to all ride-shared drivers if they want to get even more data (those drivers drive a lot. Chance of encountering many werid/difficult driving situation is higher.) XD

  • @apterachallenge
    @apterachallenge Před 9 měsíci +1

    Why even buy a brand new Tesla? Dobson could pick up a used Tesla, maybe a 2022 model with LFP batteries, or even an older one for the right price, and just run 2 Teslas. The other option is to get a used Model S with 300 plus miles of range, and only charge it at home. It will cost more to purchase but will pay for itself in the long run. Maybe Dobson could even find an old Model S with the free supercharging, and use that as his second Tesla.

  • @14HueJass
    @14HueJass Před 9 měsíci +2

    Besides performance, why would anyone not get standard range with the new battery? Charging a LR model at 20% and using until 80%, only gives you 60% of range/use. Of 330 mile LR model, you're only able to use 198miles, 60% of the battery, charging at 20% until 80%. LFP seems like the only way to go.

  • @whitlockbr
    @whitlockbr Před 9 měsíci +3

    A new model three with a trade in would be maybe a 20k loan. With the highland coming maybe wait for it!

  • @libertykrueger1433
    @libertykrueger1433 Před 9 měsíci +1

    In the case of ultra high usage cases like Uber or Lyft driving, renting from Hertz or just a standard lease may make more sense.