For the love of God, keep it. It's big, it's weird, it's French. It gives you lots of content and will make a great companion car to your one-day-to-be-restored SM. And besides, it's a guaranteed future classic
When I bought my C6 (inspired by you) from an auction, they had absolutely drenched the fuse box, which shut down 110kms into the trip. The car went on redundancy mode on everything, everything. I was too scared to turn it off, as I thought the starter would be isolated and i would be stranded. I drove it 660kms in 3rd (only available gear), with the heater on full to assist with cooling. When I reached home I turned it off and then on again. Everything worked. I would not trade it for the world. It is an absolute quirky marvel of design and engineering. If you love something, keep it, even as an ornament.
@UPnDOWN Perhaps I didn't word it properly. It is a good inspiration, and I wish to keep her for as long as I can. Of course you can not be held responsible. I just wanted to tell you that I considered a C6 (Ivy) and I genuinely thank you. Although I have many Citroen's, I would be able to do it without your support or C6 owners' support. This is the reason I became a member. To say thanks.
I feel your pain. Bought a C5 2L HDI estate back in late 2015 as my son was starting university the following year and I needed something with plenty of room. It's a great load carrier and eats up the miles on long journeys. It's now clocked 202,000 miles and I keep thinking about changing it but can't bring myself to do it. Passed it's MOT this week with no trouble! Plus a recent 560 mile trip to North Devon and back at 50MPG in absolute comfort. So I'd say stay with the C6, one day it will be a classic.
None of my three C6s ever had that UV-attack with the headlight lenses; a March 2006 - originally RO06 HRF (the Fifth Gear-featured one) and now on C6 CYX - a November 2006, SD56 VZV, and a November 2009, RK59 WVB (3.0HDi), RPO 11999CJ. Rich, for the sake of 3k, don’t sell it! I’ll come round and swap out that ‘stat housing with you, and we’ll look at the aircon (which might be the gallery temperature flap[s]). I’ve done those as well! Looks great in that colour scheme and on those Atlantique wheels. My 2.7s were both Mauritius Blue (with Roccastrada wheels) and my ‘3’ was Abyss Blue; all had that Wadibis interior. The black leather interior is, as you stated in a previous video, not as nice (I actually think it feels oppressive and ‘orrible!). The Wadibis seat facings are actually meant to be different coloured leather sections, btw…
Richard your passion for this C6 is clear! I think you should keep it as its worth more to you than the money. If you sell you'll end up regretting it for sure!
You love it. Do the transmission, and store it and SORN it, then bring it out for high days and holidays. Eventually the values will start to climb as it acquires classic status. Those V6 engines are lovely and smooth. Used to drive a Jag XJL for work with the 3.0L variant. It could certainly lift its skirts.
I am half way through watching your C6 discussion. Save? Sell? You have an SM, in near-ruin, and the C6 is a modern nearly repaired descendant of it. Think of it as a younger C6-ap-SM! It RUNS! You LOVE it. Have other wonderful, comparatively rare cars increased in value in these inflationary times? Uh, yeah. Keep it. Use it with your family. Enjoy it. Parts are available. I like seeing it from the side, enjoying its aero-ness. Save the C6! On the other hand, search for a cheap place to park it up and come back in a year, saving tax and insurance. First car for your offspring?
Problem is it's too small really to be used as a family car. The car itself is huge, but I have three kids, and the back seat is strictly not designed for three people.
Ffs that's the most honest review on someone's car situation on CZcams to date! Obviously finance's will be the deciding factor. But sometimes the most logical solution isn't the best situation. It's a pen and paper decision. And go from there. But you just know that in 10 years time the C6 will be desirable in Citroen circles and you would be proberley be kicking yourself if it got sold and broken up
Love the C6 . Had a C5 for a while . Great car . Thinking about getting one . An exclusive . Prices have come down massively but it's so much car for such little cost . And all cars have running costs . Admittedly the road tax is a killer though . Yet so many big electric cars on the roads for free 🤷🏻♂️
My C6 is pointless and broken but I walked passed it today and the styling looks so good. That completely made up for it! :D. That made your decision simpler!
Every time I've been ready to sell it, scrap it or personally beat every panel and window with a sledge hammer, I'd take it for a drive....back and forward in the drive.....and all would be forgiven. After one years driving in eight years of ownership it's been my daily now since September '22 and I'm glad I hung on in there. More work to do but almost all of it is cosmetic now. Nothing drives like it and nothing else comes close to driving in that interior.
It's a keeper and you know it. I'm 8 years and just shy of £20k into mine (£4k purchase price). My sanity has been seriously questioned by everyone I know but I disregard all ridicule and plow on. With about 60 jobs left of a 260 intem to-do list, the finish line is finally in sight. As the numbers dwindle, each C6 custodian has an increasingly important job to do. Also, your internal monologue is both hilarious and scarily familiar.
New sub here. Just a few thoughts regarding keeping/selling: C6's become rarer and rarer in future, so even high milage ones can increase in value. It's a complex car, so only few people have the knowledge of maintaining it properly. You are able to maintain it yourself which saves a lot of mainenance-costs. And brings nice content for the channel. So you can keep it and use it only for long distances (holiday, family-trips, etc). For the rest of the year take it off the road and meanwhile do the necessary maintenance. But: you can also put it up for sale for say £5-7k, so you don't get potential buyers looking for a cheap banger. You do risk the chance that it doesn't sell for quite a while, but that gives you time to do some of the most necessary work. And if it sells for a decent price, you got some cash to get another daily driver. And regarding the roadtax: if it's of any interest: I'm from the Netherlands and recently payed almost € 500,- quarter-year roadtax for my C5 Tourer 2.0 HDI. That's almost € 2.000,- annually. My local Citroën specialist also drives a C6 2.7 HDI mostly short distances. The annual roadtax for this car is even higher: € 2.300,-. With the current exchange-rate that would be about £ 2.000,-😮. Yep, Dutch government really doesn't like diesel-cars.... BTW: entertaining channel, keep up the good work.
Hello... at the moment she's in my shed. It will be back out shortly enough.. she is a weirdly wonderful car. Bought her from a mad Citroën man who kept her just so... lovely car.😊
My C6 2.2 base failed its MOT last November so i put it on SORN. I missed it very much and the good news is i will be getting it back on Tuesday serviced, taxed and with an MOT. You will regret it if you sell it so keep it and enjoy the last proper Citroen.
My uncle had a red C6 3.0v6 hdi which he had has a company car then when he retired he brought it then kept it about 5 years which he loved and was surprisingly reliable.
That's one hell of a car for under £3k. What else could you get that does what the C6 does well for that sort of money? I can't think of much. That side profile shot of it looks so good. If the road tax wasn't absolutely insane on these (€1800 a year here) I'd have one.
I have a friend who had a C6 with a V6 petrol engine and he absolutely loved the car. Unfortunately, it was not mutual and the car was almost more in the workshop than being driven. Luckily, my friend had a big budget and money wasn't really an issue. Still, he eventually had enough of the car after a couple of years and sold it. Not because he didn't love the car, but because he couldn't drive the car when he wanted to (it spent way too much time in the workshop). He has other cars too including a BMW 740d (G11) so he was not dependent on the C6. I have heard of others having similar problems with the C6. It is definitely sad that it is like this because the car is both absolutely gorgeous looking and cool and you really want to love it.
Keep the C6, they are amazing. I’d love one but I need to sell one of mine which I can’t justify and doesn’t really get the use it should but can’t let go of it, I’ve owned it 10 years now. I know your pain.
Nice result with the MOT. I can sympathise with the costs of running a C6, but I justify mine with how much I love the car. At least you're in a better position than a lot of people, being able to do your own repairs. Road tax on the C6 2.7 is now up from £615 to £675 as of this month ... Quite an increase! My lot cost me £2k a year to tax, which is hard to justify! Unless you keep it forever, it will get broken at some point ... I'm pretty welded to my C6 now, with what it's worth vs what it's cost me ... But I use that as a reason to keep it!
i Hello love your videos being disabled and suffering with mental health it makes my day watching your videos i have always wanted a C6 i have had Xm's to Bx's even an old pallas many moons ago. i did try to by one last year on Ebay but the guy was genuine and told me it wasn't for me if i could sell my 58 Jaguar Xf i would love to own it have always wanted one and love everythink about them. I am watching you now as i type this message to you. please DO NOT GIVE UP ON IT AS I WOULD LOVE TO OWN IT if i can sell my jag i would one hundred percent have it from you i would never ever sell it its just amazing. Keep up the good work and now watching you doing the Red Bx kind regards Richard from Dronfield Derbyshire
Suck it up & keep it! Selling would be the equivalent of hubnut selling Betty! Yes the road tax is expensive but you’d still have to tax something else so it’ll save you a couple of hundred quid a year & you’d gain a bit of mpg. Life doesn’t need to be just an economic exercise, do what makes you happy 😉
Keep it. I love mine and wouldn't be without it. It puts a smile on my face as soon as I see it in a morning, and a bigger smile when I get in it and drive it. I actually got a salute and a thumbs up from an Audi driver the other day, although I think he was just impressed with active spoiler. Anyway I think you'll regret it if sell.
It will, but I think by that point it'll only be the very tidiest ones, and this will never be that...which I honestly don't mind as I use it, and enjoy using it.
I feel the pain, Im currently in the same dilemma with my Au falcon, its been a basket case at the moment and needs fixing and just want to throw in the towel but ive had so many adventures in it and love it to bits that its hard to let it go as it will get destroyed by hoons that will do skid in it too its death.
I'm definitely not one for telling people how to live their lives on CZcams! but since you asked, I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in! I think you have 3 options for this car: 1. Put some more money in it to get it reliable, once the money is spent, it will still need maintenance but the big bills will decrease. You could also put a tow bar on it and make it a work/personal vehicle as those diesel engines do a great job towing. 2. Strip it and sell it for parts (I know it would break your heart) and any money you get over the 3k (or thereabouts) cost it's due you goes straight into the DS or the SM. 3. Sell it for a slight loss and make a point of never checking the MOT history of it again! 😂 Anyway, whatever you choose to do, just make sure it is what YOU want to do, not what the comments section has swayed you into doing. P.s. loving the content recently. In a world of CZcamsrs screaming at the camera while they pay someone to fit an exhaust to their 2023 corvette, it's refreshing to sit down and watch 20mins of someone waffling about cars they are ACTUALLY passionate about. ❤
Had exactly your dilemma with my Saabs . Firstly a low mileage 9000cse which I owned for fifteen years and then with the 9-5 Aero that replaced it. Possibly the daftest thing I ever did was selling the 9000, The 9-5 was replaced with a Peugeot 308 soot chucker. The only time I love that is when I see 60mpg and pay my £30 road tax
What is it with the Citroën/Saab ownership thing? I've had a C5 exclusive (which inspired me to buy my C6), two C6's (one purchased as a donor car but saved and now owned by the genius I call "The Citroen Whisperer") a 9-5 and three 9-3 convertibles. I've had at least one of each since 2008.
I would say keep it's good content I've been in same situation with my Rover 75 I love I've spent to much on it its mot worth much and needs more work. So in the end I'm just keeping it and enjoying it. For the AC you should at least try to vacum it down see if it holds.
Formula for deciding whether a married man can keep his toys: a) Is she wholly opposed to it? (if 'no' proceed) b) Do you enjoy it? (If 'yes' proceed) c) Are you starving your kids because of it? (If 'no' proceed) d) Would you miss it? (If 'yes' proceed) e) Is it in the way? (If less than 'quite a bit' - KEEP IT!)
Keep it, Richard. It’s everything you love, with MOT and just goes. It’s not a dumb supercar, just a normal diesel. I run an e55 as my only car. It also is unjustifiable and expensive to run, esp. around town. Yet I adore the thing and would never sell as long as I can hold on to it. Every time I drive it, it speaks to me deep inside, reaches in and grabs me by the naughty bits. Dreamed of one since 2003, got one in 2019. If you love it, run it. Have previously sold cars and bikes that I shouldn’t have, and shed a tear when they turned the corner. Emotional attachments, eh? Just keep it. You will regret selling it, even more so when you have at last had the inside professionally un-mankied. Edit: £600 in road tax per year isn’t that much. People spend more than that on coffee from the star**** place, per year. On coffee.
That's the first time you've said that.... Sell it. You don't want to be feeling that the car owes you... So either SORN it or sell it. You have other projects that need your time and money. It's a real shame.
I love my daily car, but it's my only car as well. It's a tiny little Mazda 2 1.5 sky active sport nav+, it only has 90 bhp (woe that was a big drop from my previous skoda ovtavia 1,4 Tsi DSG 140bhp (140 to 90, 50 yep 50bhp is painful) but i love it, it does everything well like all Japaneese cars do, it handles great which makes it fun, but above it's the perfect colour for a small car- soul crystal red. Wow how strange an MOT tester/tech who actually loves his car.
Well, I understand this must be tought, but at least you did it. I could not convince myself to get a C6. Maybe we are just looking for things that brings us joy, we think some cars might do it but then realize that they are just cars, that need a lot of care themselves and we are looking for the next fix before finishing the current one. So yeah... I'm looking for another C5.... :)
Going against most comments here, but sell it, sell it for whatever you can get for it. If someone runs it for a year and then it goes to parts, fine. If it goes straight to a parts car, fine again. C6s will only survive the current bottom of the market if there's a supply of parts cars. Let it die so another can live, it's a noble sacrifice!
Sounds like you want to keep it, so keep it! Until something goes horrifically wrong, then wish you had sold it while it was working. As nature intended.
if i was keeping that car, I would change the radiator & air con condenser all in one go. Also for me down in Australia fixing the coolant leaks & air-con are the 2 biggest priorities, everything else can wait. I cannot stand cars with coolant leaks or non functioning air con. I have a big workshop like yours However all my cars that get driven around are all mechanically fixed I don't like cars with any sort of leaks oil, water whatever. I will strip them & change every hose if needed before getting on the road. if i find a leak it gets parked in the workshop until it is fixed. (overkill I know).
Hello Richard, I feel your pain. I parked my C6 next to yours at the Citroen owners club rally last year. But, I've sold mine. I too loved it, but I decided I just couldn't justify it. I couldn't use it as a daily because of the cost and using it caused things to break. I couldn't keep it as a weekend car, because it took up too much space and not using it caused it to break as well (in strange and irritating ways). I sold it at a loss, because as you said, they're not worth much, especially with higher miles and few people seem to want them. As it drove away with its new owner, my grief was tempered by a strange flood of relief. I wish you all the best whatever decision you make and I'll watch Clement and professor tomato videos for as long as you choose to make them 👍
Thanks Dave, sorry to hear you had to part with yours. I fully sympathise. I do use mine daily and it's done a great job til now, but the costs are very real.
Thanks Richard. I still have my phase 2 Xantia hdi estate, that I use daily. That car just keeps on going and going, 25 years old and its done 15000 miles in the last 9 months at 50mpg 👍
It would be nice to buy one like that at that price in Australia. Currently the cheapest example for sale with around 170,000kms is A$19,000 (10,159 GBP)!
For the past 3 years I've been going through the same tortured loop with an early Rover 75 Connoisseur. Driven my better half mad with it whenever I've shared my turmoil. Driven myself mad too. Last month I sold it. and bought a modern (2007 :¬) Mini that I don't intend to ever lay a spanner on - we'll see how that goes! Deciding factor was that it (and probably any recentish V6) is a PITA to work on. In the time it would take me to do even the simplest of tasks on it I could completely rebuild a 60's car or 2 old motorbikes. Thankfully its gone to someone who I think will take care of it but who knows? Maybe in 20 years it will be winning best of show at some classic event or maybe it will be reimagined as a fridge. Its not the last one, I don't run a museum. Someone else can take responsibility, or not. In the mean time I'll drive a car I don't care about - its making a nice change.
Lovely car Kitch.. keep it .. use it sparingly.. OR. try and sell it to another Citroen enthusiast. who will pay proper for it and look after it... I have a 2005 Fiat Stilo Schumacher... spent £££££ on it. not economical. not very comfy. but i love it(no one else does) ha ha... i would probably get £150 for it if i sold it tomorow... But whatever i spend on it is less than another car...Aaaarrrgh!!
I feel the same way about my Disco Tdi 300. For the amount of my I have, and continue to spend on it I could have had a decent Disco Sport but I am too attachec to it to put it out of its misery, even though it is now on 433,000km.
I'm in the same position as you except one of my cars is a TDV8 Range Rover Sport... 17mpg around town if I'm lucky😭😭and I'm using it as my daily. I'm in physical pain every time I start it😅
If I had the space, time and the money to keep something like this running, then I'd buy it in a heartbeat just to complete the lineage of big Citroens I've had.
If this is the land Rover engine the plastic part is not a thermostat housing the real part is the lowest point with loads of hoses attached. They make alloy parts for land Rover engine in the states.
The ever so subtle scrap box in front of the C6 😂. It's a gorgeous looking car though. Your C6 needs a knowledgeable Citroen mechanic like you to look after it.
Hmmm, tough one! I have owned 3 BXs- a Mk1 16TRS, a Mk2 16RS and a Mk2 TZD Estate. The ride was amazing. My RHD 1974 DS 23EFiM was a project car I wish I kept, instead of selling it for £500... I trestdrove a C6, and I just couldn't bring myself to buy it. It felt too ordinary after the others. The ride was 'normal', the brakes were 'normal'. But the styling is superb. The dashboard is low rent and boring, but the seats and doors are lovely. The head-up display is a time-locked novelty. BUT- I keep coming back to them on Autotrader. Just looking... They will, without doubt be a classic. But at what expense? I agree, it is a toughie, and one you may regret selling, or keeping...
I've got a '98 Nissan Maxima SEL that I shipped back to NZ in 2018 that has just over 96k miles on the clock. It made no financial sense to bring it back except it's a great car that I've had since 2012 - bought for £850 with 57k on the clock, it has been an extremely reliable car. No way I would have gotten more than £500 if I'd try to sell it and some eejit would have just wrecked it after a couple of years. Credit to the previous one-owner who looked after this car and must have kept away from gritted Winter roads, because it was rust-free. Car tax in NZ really, really cheap compared to the UK - it's 5 x less than what I was paying in London.
I can't help thinking that even my last off the line '89 CX was better made than a C6 ? Will either be a 'popular classic'. I doubt it but it won't stop us being amazed by them.
I'd a C6 Exclusive 2.2 bought second hand at two years old, from a Citroen dealer. I paid £16000 for it, it'd done 20000 miles. So, they didn't like them new, either! I kept it for six years, and then sold it- it's now on 130000 miles. Oh, and I have a DS and a Traction as well.....
Look mate, if I was to be sensible I'd have a Skoda Fabia or some such, my commute is 7 miles a day. Instead I have the choice of a BMW K1600 bike of an Infiniti 30EX (the Renault V6 turbo diesel one). I love them both, they make me smile, they help me unwind from the drudgery and stress of work (I Drive Audi cars for a living). I'd give your car a home, no worries BUT you love that car, you care about that car so keep the bloody thing and enjoy the waft! Thanks for all your work on PROPER Citroens (have had GS, GSA, CX and BX, proper Citroens, none of the modern Euro trash)...
Thing is, probably less than 1% of cars bought are an investment. As you say, you ain't gunna get more than 2k for it with the issues you have been very honest about. Just remember someone paid 40k for that 15 years ago. It's lost 90% of its value already. Don't get yourself into a hole where it goes catastrophically wrong and you have to spend 3 days stripping it to get 1.5k back in parts.
You have the space, it's a modern car that can handle being kept outside, sorn it and keep it. Tax it once every few months to stop it going bad. You'll only deeply regret selling it. Not to mention how rare it is, so if you found yourself in a situation to get another you'll never find one. It'll appreciate in a few years when there's none left and people yearn for traditional motoring when everything gets pushed out for EVs and all the new mandatory driver aids.
There will be a day when the catch phrase will be "did I mention I have a C6?" And you will be able to use it! Mileage does not count for nothing If you keep it going! It's hard, but someone have to do it! It needs work, but you are qualified to do it. It does not deserve to die!
The prices of C6s at the moment are such good value for the car that they are. Awesome. Not a great time to sell, but a great time to buy! Living in London though, I can’t drive my one much as it’s not ULEZ compliant. So I just drive my SM. 😎
Ah, you have an SM! Mentioning it is a good move, I should do that more often! (can't drive mine, though...) Also, I *think* one of the variants of C6 is ULEZ compliant, either the 3.0 (2.9) petrol or 3.0 diesel, but they're very rare and aren't as good value as the 2.7.
How about a High Peak Autos style Raffleshack? £5 a ticket - if you set the 'reserve' at 600 tickets there's your £3k and someone gets it for a fiver. if you don't sell 600 tickets the winner gets 70% of the money and you get the rest to knock off what it owes you... I'd buy a few! it's an awesome car in so many ways with a decent amount of 'because French' charm - if they'd made an estate version it would have sold squillions with its self-levelling suspension.
Mate, some of us got it worse... I have two broken ones and no garage at all. 1st one like you I bought for £750 and just to put it on the road, like you, spent about £2000. And then plastic coolant bend broke, all the coolant escaped and the engine seized while 2000 miles away from home (still sitting there at my parents house). Then bought a second for which I paid ~£1500. Crashed in the most awkward of places - rear quarter panel just in front of the wheel. To make matters worse we have two front struts leaking LDS and another leak from the rear. And finally on the last weekly startup coolant leak. I love them a lot, but they will never make sense at all. Especially financially. But then again I am sure same was said for the SM in the late '80s hence the reason the ugliest ones are untouchable nowadays. No one wants a 15 year old Citroen...
We own a C5 estate, a car you probably wouldn't mind scrapping, but I have the same feeling as you have for the C6: in many ways it is too big, too expensive, too old - but it runs great, it is reliable, it is BIG and it has no resale value. We love it and we are gonna keep it. An if you think of it - it is actually cheap to run in terms of service. So, is it an "I" or a "we" problem? If it is a "we" problem, you are probably stuck with it :)
Had mine for 2 years being a citroen psyko i guess i'we had mine shere of odd pugs, about 40. C6 is a great big car but i still prefer my old cx turbo 2.😊
Right on the money about you owning it so I don't have to! I've always considered buying a C6 but it's the tax/performance ratio that has put me off. It's definitely in the 'not fast' category but you are paying £600++ for the privilege. I've just bought an L322 4.4 Range Rover TDV8 in the same tax bracket but I can make the man maths work for that given a) it's the best engine they did b) it has 700nm of torque and 313PS 😀
Keep it for while, it would make a tremendous EV conversion, once the right battery / drivetrain becomes reasonably affordable. I mean nobody dreams of a 2.7 HDI diesel, so it’s not like the sacrilege of turning a 3.0 V6 Busso Alfa into an EV.
EV conversion would be a nightmare with the lexia set up (can't even get up to date maps), would cost around £75k to complete - its a heavy lump of a thing - and cars built after 2002 can't be redesignated as electric by DVLA. Definitely worthy of consideration in the more distant future though.
There is another CZcamsr who has mentioned adding a big comfy 4 seater to his fleet. You know him. Clue: he owns that red BX in the corner of your workshop.
I would keep it, was looking at a red one at the motorist and heart was like.....like that a lot. Head was like Moneypit if it goes wrong. But knowing me i would buy from the heart....😂😂 Because i think its a great looking car.
One C6 owner to another - yes the car is really bad for the city but I only use it there when it is freezing or raining, otherwise I use my motorcycle for that. Just keep it for your long journeys or sell it, the beige interior is it's biggest selling point, people will pay extra for that as 90% of C6 are black inside. I originally planned to buy a Bentley and bought the C6 instead so I can mentally classify the C6 as supercheap to own and run. 🤣 Perhaps go that route and don't buy a Bentley....
If I was from UK and have some cash on my hand then I would buy it after you fitted the necessary parts on/in it. And then I would drive it. But I’m not from the UK and don’t have some extra cash so find a good buyer or else.
Always amazes me how something so packed with technology can keep running for months on field-expedient repairs (don't call them bodges) but don't ask me for advice, mine owes me more than yours does you and it's not for sale!
In my humble opinion you have too many projects. I'd say get rid of Clement,it's a lost cause. Get rid of the SM as well, you'll never have the time, money or parts to restore it. In stead spend your time and money on keeping the C6 alive. I love the C6. I saw it new at the dealers with my dad (big Citroen fan, 2x Dyane, 2 x GS, 2x CX, C5 and now C4) and we both fell in love with it (too expensive though). I would love to own and drive a C6. To me it's the modern version of the CX which is my favorite Citroen. However it's too unreliable for someone who isn't a mechanic to drive. You don't have that problem.
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Dear Reader, Sir UpnDown is not going to be a rational 'manager', and going to dump the C6 on economic grounds. That would not fit him. He is going to be chivalrous and save the C6 in despair. Because he has to, when he want's to stay true to his values. And it will be his last car to go. With that solved, chapeau for his sincere love for needy people (Sophie's Legacy) and Citroens. Michel F. van den Brun Dutch pedestrian
I remember Car Magazine taking the mick out of every big Fiat that came out in the seventies and eighties, but I bet those who did buy them, enjoyed them. I am constantly astonished at how quickly some cars are rising in value again. Morris Minors are incredibly reasonable, oddly. But it can't be long before the C6 time is here. Has Citroen disowned them yet?
This is the last real big comfy citroen. Put it in a corner, wait a few years and sell it. These will be worth a some money. Even a descent BX does 5k these days. And those were scrap cars back in the day.
Everything you have spent on it is a sunk cost. It's gone, forget it. It's worth what someone will pay which in all honesty isn't much. If you love it and can afford the ongoing costs and are happy to meet those costs then keep it. If not, get it out the door for what it'll fetch. I'm not privy to your CZcams stats but I'd imagine the C6 videos are popular so the income from those will help offset the costs. Not an easy call but be hard-headed and save your sentimentality for the older Citroens, especially the SM. Best of luck. Edited to add: the sight of all that plastic crap under the bonnet would have me waving goodbye. Imagine how much worse that will be in a few years.
For the love of God, keep it. It's big, it's weird, it's French. It gives you lots of content and will make a great companion car to your one-day-to-be-restored SM. And besides, it's a guaranteed future classic
When I bought my C6 (inspired by you) from an auction, they had absolutely drenched the fuse box, which shut down 110kms into the trip. The car went on redundancy mode on everything, everything. I was too scared to turn it off, as I thought the starter would be isolated and i would be stranded. I drove it 660kms in 3rd (only available gear), with the heater on full to assist with cooling. When I reached home I turned it off and then on again. Everything worked. I would not trade it for the world. It is an absolute quirky marvel of design and engineering. If you love something, keep it, even as an ornament.
I can't be held responsible for your purchase of a C6, that's entirely on you. Nothing to do with me.
(congrats)
@UPnDOWN Perhaps I didn't word it properly.
It is a good inspiration, and I wish to keep her for as long as I can.
Of course you can not be held responsible.
I just wanted to tell you that I considered a C6 (Ivy) and I genuinely thank you. Although I have many Citroen's, I would be able to do it without your support or C6 owners' support. This is the reason I became a member. To say thanks.
Keep it, they look amazing from so many angles, if you sell you'll regret it, plus you get a load of viewers because of it
No cars make financial sense.
Keep it enjoy it why not, you could throw your money away joining a golf club but who would be interested, we like what you do !!
I feel your pain. Bought a C5 2L HDI estate back in late 2015 as my son was starting university the following year and I needed something with plenty of room. It's a great load carrier and eats up the miles on long journeys. It's now clocked 202,000 miles and I keep thinking about changing it but can't bring myself to do it. Passed it's MOT this week with no trouble! Plus a recent 560 mile trip to North Devon and back at 50MPG in absolute comfort. So I'd say stay with the C6, one day it will be a classic.
None of my three C6s ever had that UV-attack with the headlight lenses; a March 2006 - originally RO06 HRF (the Fifth Gear-featured one) and now on C6 CYX - a November 2006, SD56 VZV, and a November 2009, RK59 WVB (3.0HDi), RPO 11999CJ.
Rich, for the sake of 3k, don’t sell it! I’ll come round and swap out that ‘stat housing with you, and we’ll look at the aircon (which might be the gallery temperature flap[s]). I’ve done those as well!
Looks great in that colour scheme and on those Atlantique wheels. My 2.7s were both Mauritius Blue (with Roccastrada wheels) and my ‘3’ was Abyss Blue; all had that Wadibis interior. The black leather interior is, as you stated in a previous video, not as nice (I actually think it feels oppressive and ‘orrible!). The Wadibis seat facings are actually meant to be different coloured leather sections, btw…
The C6 is rare and amazing. Parts are available. And it's worth at least 3 times what you paid for it. Definitely keep it.
Parts are getting harder and harder to get, actually. Odd, as it's newer than a DS, but a DS is much easier to get bits for.
Richard your passion for this C6 is clear! I think you should keep it as its worth more to you than the money. If you sell you'll end up regretting it for sure!
You love it.
Do the transmission, and store it and SORN it, then bring it out for high days and holidays.
Eventually the values will start to climb as it acquires classic status.
Those V6 engines are lovely and smooth. Used to drive a Jag XJL for work with the 3.0L variant. It could certainly lift its skirts.
To be honest, if it was for high days and holidays, I'd probably just leave the gearbox!
As someone who has a DS, a 2CV and had a CX I say: keep it. :-)
I am half way through watching your C6 discussion. Save? Sell? You have an SM, in near-ruin, and the C6 is a modern nearly repaired descendant of it. Think of it as a younger C6-ap-SM! It RUNS! You LOVE it. Have other wonderful, comparatively rare cars increased in value in these inflationary times? Uh, yeah. Keep it. Use it with your family. Enjoy it. Parts are available. I like seeing it from the side, enjoying its aero-ness. Save the C6! On the other hand, search for a cheap place to park it up and come back in a year, saving tax and insurance. First car for your offspring?
Problem is it's too small really to be used as a family car. The car itself is huge, but I have three kids, and the back seat is strictly not designed for three people.
Keep it. Buy an S-Max for the family car... This is the way! 😀
Ffs that's the most honest review on someone's car situation on CZcams to date!
Obviously finance's will be the deciding factor.
But sometimes the most logical solution isn't the best situation.
It's a pen and paper decision.
And go from there.
But you just know that in 10 years time the C6 will be desirable in Citroen circles and you would be proberley be kicking yourself if it got sold and broken up
Love the C6 . Had a C5 for a while . Great car . Thinking about getting one . An exclusive . Prices have come down massively but it's so much car for such little cost . And all cars have running costs . Admittedly the road tax is a killer though . Yet so many big electric cars on the roads for free 🤷🏻♂️
A lot of things in life don’t make sense but you have a. Emotional attachment to it so keep it 🤗
My C6 is pointless and broken but I walked passed it today and the styling looks so good. That completely made up for it! :D. That made your decision simpler!
Every time I've been ready to sell it, scrap it or personally beat every panel and window with a sledge hammer, I'd take it for a drive....back and forward in the drive.....and all would be forgiven. After one years driving in eight years of ownership it's been my daily now since September '22 and I'm glad I hung on in there. More work to do but almost all of it is cosmetic now.
Nothing drives like it and nothing else comes close to driving in that interior.
It's a keeper and you know it.
I'm 8 years and just shy of £20k into mine (£4k purchase price).
My sanity has been seriously questioned by everyone I know but I disregard all ridicule and plow on.
With about 60 jobs left of a 260 intem to-do list, the finish line is finally in sight.
As the numbers dwindle, each C6 custodian has an increasingly important job to do.
Also, your internal monologue is both hilarious and scarily familiar.
New sub here. Just a few thoughts regarding keeping/selling:
C6's become rarer and rarer in future, so even high milage ones can increase in value. It's a complex car, so only few people have the knowledge of maintaining it properly. You are able to maintain it yourself which saves a lot of mainenance-costs. And brings nice content for the channel.
So you can keep it and use it only for long distances (holiday, family-trips, etc). For the rest of the year take it off the road and meanwhile do the necessary maintenance.
But: you can also put it up for sale for say £5-7k, so you don't get potential buyers looking for a cheap banger. You do risk the chance that it doesn't sell for quite a while, but that gives you time to do some of the most necessary work. And if it sells for a decent price, you got some cash to get another daily driver.
And regarding the roadtax: if it's of any interest: I'm from the Netherlands and recently payed almost € 500,- quarter-year roadtax for my C5 Tourer 2.0 HDI. That's almost € 2.000,- annually. My local Citroën specialist also drives a C6 2.7 HDI mostly short distances. The annual roadtax for this car is even higher: € 2.300,-. With the current exchange-rate that would be about £ 2.000,-😮. Yep, Dutch government really doesn't like diesel-cars....
BTW: entertaining channel, keep up the good work.
I have one in my garage... its a fabulous car in fairness. Tax here is 1500 euro per year in Ireland. They hate big engines here.
@@MrBeboopman do you drive it much? I’m from Kerry and ran one for a year. It ruined my life but I loved it.
Hello... at the moment she's in my shed. It will be back out shortly enough.. she is a weirdly wonderful car. Bought her from a mad Citroën man who kept her just so... lovely car.😊
@@MrBeboopman is that Jason Graces old car?
@@patrickcrean7813 indeed it is... 😁😁
My C6 2.2 base failed its MOT last November so i put it on SORN. I missed it very much and the good news is i will be getting it back on Tuesday serviced, taxed and with an MOT. You will regret it if you sell it so keep it and enjoy the last proper Citroen.
My uncle had a red C6 3.0v6 hdi which he had has a company car then when he retired he brought it then kept it about 5 years which he loved and was surprisingly reliable.
That's one hell of a car for under £3k. What else could you get that does what the C6 does well for that sort of money? I can't think of much.
That side profile shot of it looks so good. If the road tax wasn't absolutely insane on these (€1800 a year here) I'd have one.
I have a friend who had a C6 with a V6 petrol engine and he absolutely loved the car. Unfortunately, it was not mutual and the car was almost more in the workshop than being driven. Luckily, my friend had a big budget and money wasn't really an issue. Still, he eventually had enough of the car after a couple of years and sold it. Not because he didn't love the car, but because he couldn't drive the car when he wanted to (it spent way too much time in the workshop). He has other cars too including a BMW 740d (G11) so he was not dependent on the C6. I have heard of others having similar problems with the C6. It is definitely sad that it is like this because the car is both absolutely gorgeous looking and cool and you really want to love it.
If it makes you happy, keep it and fix it. If you're anything like my mechanic relatives, it'll be a classic by the time you get to fixing it.
Keep the C6, they are amazing.
I’d love one but I need to sell one of mine which I can’t justify and doesn’t really get the use it should but can’t let go of it, I’ve owned it 10 years now.
I know your pain.
Nice result with the MOT.
I can sympathise with the costs of running a C6, but I justify mine with how much I love the car. At least you're in a better position than a lot of people, being able to do your own repairs. Road tax on the C6 2.7 is now up from £615 to £675 as of this month ... Quite an increase! My lot cost me £2k a year to tax, which is hard to justify!
Unless you keep it forever, it will get broken at some point ... I'm pretty welded to my C6 now, with what it's worth vs what it's cost me ... But I use that as a reason to keep it!
Ian Seabrook needs a car like this in his life.
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Hello love your videos being disabled and suffering with mental health it makes my day watching your videos i have always wanted a C6 i have had Xm's to Bx's even an old pallas many moons ago. i did try to by one last year on Ebay but the guy was genuine and told me it wasn't for me if i could sell my 58 Jaguar Xf i would love to own it have always wanted one and love everythink about them. I am watching you now as i type this message to you. please DO NOT GIVE UP ON IT AS I WOULD LOVE TO OWN IT if i can sell my jag i would one hundred percent have it from you i would never ever sell it its just amazing. Keep up the good work and now watching you doing the Red Bx
kind regards Richard from Dronfield Derbyshire
One of the reasons it's called UPnDOWN is a nod to mental health. I'm far from stable myself.
I love it too, keep seeing one near me too and love that. If I could afford to keep i going I'd have it but I think you should keep it
Suck it up & keep it! Selling would be the equivalent of hubnut selling Betty!
Yes the road tax is expensive but you’d still have to tax something else so it’ll save you a couple of hundred quid a year & you’d gain a bit of mpg.
Life doesn’t need to be just an economic exercise, do what makes you happy 😉
Oh no, Ian's far more 'connected' to Betty than I am to this.
Keep it. I love mine and wouldn't be without it. It puts a smile on my face as soon as I see it in a morning, and a bigger smile when I get in it and drive it. I actually got a salute and a thumbs up from an Audi driver the other day, although I think he was just impressed with active spoiler. Anyway I think you'll regret it if sell.
One of the most beautiful modern car from the Skip looking automobile generation.
What a gorgeous car, timeless classic.
It's one of my favourite cars that you own & I look forward to watching your videos on the C6, but if it isn't cost effective sell it as is.
It will become a classic one day but I fear you have owned this one too soon! However once it reaches classic status it would be too expensive to buy!
It will, but I think by that point it'll only be the very tidiest ones, and this will never be that...which I honestly don't mind as I use it, and enjoy using it.
Didn't realise... Pillarless doors. Front AND back. Keep it! Forever!
I feel the pain, Im currently in the same dilemma with my Au falcon, its been a basket case at the moment and needs fixing and just want to throw in the towel but ive had so many adventures in it and love it to bits that its hard to let it go as it will get destroyed by hoons that will do skid in it too its death.
I'm definitely not one for telling people how to live their lives on CZcams! but since you asked, I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in!
I think you have 3 options for this car:
1. Put some more money in it to get it reliable, once the money is spent, it will still need maintenance but the big bills will decrease. You could also put a tow bar on it and make it a work/personal vehicle as those diesel engines do a great job towing.
2. Strip it and sell it for parts (I know it would break your heart) and any money you get over the 3k (or thereabouts) cost it's due you goes straight into the DS or the SM.
3. Sell it for a slight loss and make a point of never checking the MOT history of it again! 😂
Anyway, whatever you choose to do, just make sure it is what YOU want to do, not what the comments section has swayed you into doing.
P.s. loving the content recently. In a world of CZcamsrs screaming at the camera while they pay someone to fit an exhaust to their 2023 corvette, it's refreshing to sit down and watch 20mins of someone waffling about cars they are ACTUALLY passionate about. ❤
Had exactly your dilemma with my Saabs . Firstly a low mileage 9000cse which I owned for fifteen years and then with the 9-5 Aero that replaced it. Possibly the daftest thing I ever did was selling the 9000, The 9-5 was replaced with a Peugeot 308 soot chucker. The only time I love that is when I see 60mpg and pay my £30 road tax
What is it with the Citroën/Saab ownership thing?
I've had a C5 exclusive (which inspired me to buy my C6), two C6's (one purchased as a donor car but saved and now owned by the genius I call "The Citroen Whisperer") a 9-5 and three 9-3 convertibles.
I've had at least one of each since 2008.
@@stewartmcnaughton3395 Former Citroen Xantia owner / current multiple Saab owner checking in...
Fxckin terrifying…. But I can’t stop watching
😅
I would say keep it's good content I've been in same situation with my Rover 75 I love I've spent to much on it its mot worth much and needs more work. So in the end I'm just keeping it and enjoying it. For the AC you should at least try to vacum it down see if it holds.
Formula for deciding whether a married man can keep his toys:
a) Is she wholly opposed to it? (if 'no' proceed)
b) Do you enjoy it? (If 'yes' proceed)
c) Are you starving your kids because of it? (If 'no' proceed)
d) Would you miss it? (If 'yes' proceed)
e) Is it in the way? (If less than 'quite a bit' - KEEP IT!)
a) No
b) Yes
c) No
d) Yes
e) It would be quite a bit, yes.
Keep it, Richard. It’s everything you love, with MOT and just goes. It’s not a dumb supercar, just a normal diesel.
I run an e55 as my only car. It also is unjustifiable and expensive to run, esp. around town. Yet I adore the thing and would never sell as long as I can hold on to it. Every time I drive it, it speaks to me deep inside, reaches in and grabs me by the naughty bits. Dreamed of one since 2003, got one in 2019.
If you love it, run it. Have previously sold cars and bikes that I shouldn’t have, and shed a tear when they turned the corner. Emotional attachments, eh?
Just keep it. You will regret selling it, even more so when you have at last had the inside professionally un-mankied.
Edit: £600 in road tax per year isn’t that much. People spend more than that on coffee from the star**** place, per year. On coffee.
All true, but my income doesn't match the running costs of this car.
That's the first time you've said that.... Sell it.
You don't want to be feeling that the car owes you... So either SORN it or sell it. You have other projects that need your time and money.
It's a real shame.
I love my daily car, but it's my only car as well. It's a tiny little Mazda 2 1.5 sky active sport nav+, it only has 90 bhp (woe that was a big drop from my previous skoda ovtavia 1,4 Tsi DSG 140bhp (140 to 90, 50 yep 50bhp is painful) but i love it, it does everything well like all Japaneese cars do, it handles great which makes it fun, but above it's the perfect colour for a small car- soul crystal red. Wow how strange an MOT tester/tech who actually loves his car.
Well, I understand this must be tought, but at least you did it. I could not convince myself to get a C6. Maybe we are just looking for things that brings us joy, we think some cars might do it but then realize that they are just cars, that need a lot of care themselves and we are looking for the next fix before finishing the current one.
So yeah... I'm looking for another C5.... :)
Going against most comments here, but sell it, sell it for whatever you can get for it. If someone runs it for a year and then it goes to parts, fine. If it goes straight to a parts car, fine again. C6s will only survive the current bottom of the market if there's a supply of parts cars. Let it die so another can live, it's a noble sacrifice!
Fair comments.
Sounds like you want to keep it, so keep it! Until something goes horrifically wrong, then wish you had sold it while it was working. As nature intended.
if i was keeping that car, I would change the radiator & air con condenser all in one go. Also for me down in Australia
fixing the coolant leaks & air-con are the 2 biggest priorities, everything else can wait. I cannot stand cars with coolant leaks or non functioning air con. I have a big workshop like yours However all my cars that get driven around are all mechanically fixed I don't like cars with any sort of leaks oil, water whatever. I will strip them & change every hose if needed before getting on the road. if i find a leak it gets parked in the workshop until it is fixed. (overkill I know).
Hello Richard, I feel your pain.
I parked my C6 next to yours at the Citroen owners club rally last year.
But, I've sold mine.
I too loved it, but I decided I just couldn't justify it. I couldn't use it as a daily because of the cost and using it caused things to break. I couldn't keep it as a weekend car, because it took up too much space and not using it caused it to break as well (in strange and irritating ways).
I sold it at a loss, because as you said, they're not worth much, especially with higher miles and few people seem to want them.
As it drove away with its new owner, my grief was tempered by a strange flood of relief.
I wish you all the best whatever decision you make and I'll watch Clement and professor tomato videos for as long as you choose to make them 👍
Thanks Dave, sorry to hear you had to part with yours. I fully sympathise. I do use mine daily and it's done a great job til now, but the costs are very real.
Thanks Richard. I still have my phase 2 Xantia hdi estate, that I use daily. That car just keeps on going and going, 25 years old and its done 15000 miles in the last 9 months at 50mpg 👍
I was on the just drive and enjoy it.
Sell it and pick up a nice tidy focus 👍
It would be nice to buy one like that at that price in Australia. Currently the cheapest example for sale with around 170,000kms is A$19,000 (10,159 GBP)!
Buy this one and import it! It's even RHD...
For the past 3 years I've been going through the same tortured loop with an early Rover 75 Connoisseur. Driven my better half mad with it whenever I've shared my turmoil. Driven myself mad too.
Last month I sold it. and bought a modern (2007 :¬) Mini that I don't intend to ever lay a spanner on - we'll see how that goes!
Deciding factor was that it (and probably any recentish V6) is a PITA to work on. In the time it would take me to do even the simplest of tasks on it I could completely rebuild a 60's car or 2 old motorbikes.
Thankfully its gone to someone who I think will take care of it but who knows? Maybe in 20 years it will be winning best of show at some classic event or maybe it will be reimagined as a fridge. Its not the last one, I don't run a museum. Someone else can take responsibility, or not. In the mean time I'll drive a car I don't care about - its making a nice change.
Admire your dedication enjoy your c6 incidently when is hubnut going to loan you one of his cars for a change
You never know...
You love it. You keep it. Easy.
Lovely car Kitch.. keep it .. use it sparingly.. OR. try and sell it to another Citroen enthusiast. who will pay proper for it and look after it... I have a 2005 Fiat Stilo Schumacher... spent £££££ on it. not economical. not very comfy. but i love it(no one else does) ha ha... i would probably get £150 for it if i sold it tomorow... But whatever i spend on it is less than another car...Aaaarrrgh!!
I feel the same way about my Disco Tdi 300. For the amount of my I have, and continue to spend on it I could have had a decent Disco Sport but I am too attachec to it to put it out of its misery, even though it is now on 433,000km.
I'm in the same position as you except one of my cars is a TDV8 Range Rover Sport... 17mpg around town if I'm lucky😭😭and I'm using it as my daily. I'm in physical pain every time I start it😅
If I had the space, time and the money to keep something like this running, then I'd buy it in a heartbeat just to complete the lineage of big Citroens I've had.
If this is the land Rover engine the plastic part is not a thermostat housing the real part is the lowest point with loads of hoses attached. They make alloy parts for land Rover engine in the states.
The ever so subtle scrap box in front of the C6 😂.
It's a gorgeous looking car though. Your C6 needs a knowledgeable Citroen mechanic like you to look after it.
All C6s do.
This car is Amazing, bautifull !!!
Hmmm, tough one! I have owned 3 BXs- a Mk1 16TRS, a Mk2 16RS and a Mk2 TZD Estate. The ride was amazing. My RHD 1974 DS 23EFiM was a project car I wish I kept, instead of selling it for £500... I trestdrove a C6, and I just couldn't bring myself to buy it. It felt too ordinary after the others. The ride was 'normal', the brakes were 'normal'. But the styling is superb. The dashboard is low rent and boring, but the seats and doors are lovely. The head-up display is a time-locked novelty. BUT- I keep coming back to them on Autotrader. Just looking... They will, without doubt be a classic. But at what expense? I agree, it is a toughie, and one you may regret selling, or keeping...
I've got a '98 Nissan Maxima SEL that I shipped back to NZ in 2018 that has just over 96k miles on the clock. It made no financial sense to bring it back except it's a great car that I've had since 2012 - bought for £850 with 57k on the clock, it has been an extremely reliable car. No way I would have gotten more than £500 if I'd try to sell it and some eejit would have just wrecked it after a couple of years. Credit to the previous one-owner who looked after this car and must have kept away from gritted Winter roads, because it was rust-free.
Car tax in NZ really, really cheap compared to the UK - it's 5 x less than what I was paying in London.
Somebody got a haircut, looking dapper Sir 💪
Keep it.... shes gorgeous in fairness.😊
I can't help thinking that even my last off the line '89 CX was better made than a C6 ? Will either be a 'popular classic'. I doubt it but it won't stop us being amazed by them.
I dunno, the C6 is pretty well made. That said, CXs are solid, too.
I'd a C6 Exclusive 2.2 bought second hand at two years old, from a Citroen dealer. I paid £16000 for it, it'd done 20000 miles. So, they didn't like them new, either! I kept it for six years, and then sold it- it's now on 130000 miles. Oh, and I have a DS and a Traction as well.....
Look mate, if I was to be sensible I'd have a Skoda Fabia or some such, my commute is 7 miles a day. Instead I have the choice of a BMW K1600 bike of an Infiniti 30EX (the Renault V6 turbo diesel one). I love them both, they make me smile, they help me unwind from the drudgery and stress of work (I Drive Audi cars for a living). I'd give your car a home, no worries BUT you love that car, you care about that car so keep the bloody thing and enjoy the waft! Thanks for all your work on PROPER Citroens (have had GS, GSA, CX and BX, proper Citroens, none of the modern Euro trash)...
Ah yes, the "proper" Citroën debate. 😅 Citroënists will still be arguing over the last "proper" Citroen when the sun goes out
Thing is, probably less than 1% of cars bought are an investment.
As you say, you ain't gunna get more than 2k for it with the issues you have been very honest about.
Just remember someone paid 40k for that 15 years ago. It's lost 90% of its value already.
Don't get yourself into a hole where it goes catastrophically wrong and you have to spend 3 days stripping it to get 1.5k back in parts.
That engine sounded much better in my old Disco3 than in your elegant C6.
That was a cold start, in fairness..
My 70 DS Pallas bvh non-runner rust bucket in need of rewiring to get it moving - I fear the junkyard (US - maybe the breakers UK) Best of luck
You have the space, it's a modern car that can handle being kept outside, sorn it and keep it.
Tax it once every few months to stop it going bad.
You'll only deeply regret selling it. Not to mention how rare it is, so if you found yourself in a situation to get another you'll never find one.
It'll appreciate in a few years when there's none left and people yearn for traditional motoring when everything gets pushed out for EVs and all the new mandatory driver aids.
There will be a day when the catch phrase will be "did I mention I have a C6?" And you will be able to use it! Mileage does not count for nothing If you keep it going! It's hard, but someone have to do it! It needs work, but you are qualified to do it. It does not deserve to die!
The prices of C6s at the moment are such good value for the car that they are. Awesome. Not a great time to sell, but a great time to buy! Living in London though, I can’t drive my one much as it’s not ULEZ compliant. So I just drive my SM. 😎
Ah, you have an SM! Mentioning it is a good move, I should do that more often!
(can't drive mine, though...)
Also, I *think* one of the variants of C6 is ULEZ compliant, either the 3.0 (2.9) petrol or 3.0 diesel, but they're very rare and aren't as good value as the 2.7.
@@UPnDOWN ...it will be the petrol. The 3.0 diesel is in a lower VED band and also quite rare, but still not ULEZ.😕
The A/C will be the condenser, so common on Peugeot Citroen cars, C5s use the same condenser and they are weak
Does yours stink too?
How about a High Peak Autos style Raffleshack? £5 a ticket - if you set the 'reserve' at 600 tickets there's your £3k and someone gets it for a fiver. if you don't sell 600 tickets the winner gets 70% of the money and you get the rest to knock off what it owes you... I'd buy a few! it's an awesome car in so many ways with a decent amount of 'because French' charm - if they'd made an estate version it would have sold squillions with its self-levelling suspension.
Mate, some of us got it worse... I have two broken ones and no garage at all. 1st one like you I bought for £750 and just to put it on the road, like you, spent about £2000. And then plastic coolant bend broke, all the coolant escaped and the engine seized while 2000 miles away from home (still sitting there at my parents house).
Then bought a second for which I paid ~£1500. Crashed in the most awkward of places - rear quarter panel just in front of the wheel. To make matters worse we have two front struts leaking LDS and another leak from the rear. And finally on the last weekly startup coolant leak.
I love them a lot, but they will never make sense at all. Especially financially. But then again I am sure same was said for the SM in the late '80s hence the reason the ugliest ones are untouchable nowadays.
No one wants a 15 year old Citroen...
We own a C5 estate, a car you probably wouldn't mind scrapping, but I have the same feeling as you have for the C6: in many ways it is too big, too expensive, too old - but it runs great, it is reliable, it is BIG and it has no resale value. We love it and we are gonna keep it. An if you think of it - it is actually cheap to run in terms of service. So, is it an "I" or a "we" problem? If it is a "we" problem, you are probably stuck with it :)
C5s are sodding brilliant
Sort it out and use it during the summer. It will eventually start to appreciate in value.
I think I'd be using older stuff in the summer, classics and wotnot. I just need to fix them first...
Had mine for 2 years being a citroen psyko i guess i'we had mine shere of odd pugs, about 40. C6 is a great big car but i still prefer my old cx turbo 2.😊
You seem to love it like one of the family, should someone call Childline?
Right on the money about you owning it so I don't have to! I've always considered buying a C6 but it's the tax/performance ratio that has put me off. It's definitely in the 'not fast' category but you are paying £600++ for the privilege. I've just bought an L322 4.4 Range Rover TDV8 in the same tax bracket but I can make the man maths work for that given a) it's the best engine they did b) it has 700nm of torque and 313PS 😀
Hub nut rents cars for free🙂and car is awesome. Modern unique french luxurious classic which is usable is great.
Keep it for while, it would make a tremendous EV conversion, once the right battery / drivetrain becomes reasonably affordable. I mean nobody dreams of a 2.7 HDI diesel, so it’s not like the sacrilege of turning a 3.0 V6 Busso Alfa into an EV.
EV conversion would be a nightmare with the lexia set up (can't even get up to date maps), would cost around £75k to complete - its a heavy lump of a thing - and cars built after 2002 can't be redesignated as electric by DVLA.
Definitely worthy of consideration in the more distant future though.
There is another CZcamsr who has mentioned adding a big comfy 4 seater to his fleet. You know him. Clue: he owns that red BX in the corner of your workshop.
He could buy a sorted one straight away, that's the thing.
I would keep it, was looking at a red one at the motorist and heart was like.....like that a lot. Head was like Moneypit if it goes wrong. But knowing me i would buy from the heart....😂😂 Because i think its a great looking car.
Geeee wiz, you love it, that's important! Sell it and you will regret it and be sad...admit it.
Great video. Are you any relation to 6DDeisiels? 🤔
No, why?
One C6 owner to another - yes the car is really bad for the city but I only use it there when it is freezing or raining, otherwise I use my motorcycle for that. Just keep it for your long journeys or sell it, the beige interior is it's biggest selling point, people will pay extra for that as 90% of C6 are black inside.
I originally planned to buy a Bentley and bought the C6 instead so I can mentally classify the C6 as supercheap to own and run. 🤣 Perhaps go that route and don't buy a Bentley....
If I was from UK and have some cash on my hand then I would buy it after you fitted the necessary parts on/in it. And then I would drive it. But I’m not from the UK and don’t have some extra cash so find a good buyer or else.
KEEP IT
Always amazes me how something so packed with technology can keep running for months on field-expedient repairs (don't call them bodges) but don't ask me for advice, mine owes me more than yours does you and it's not for sale!
I would have bought a C6 Brand new, IF they had made a tourer (estate) version.
In my humble opinion you have too many projects. I'd say get rid of Clement,it's a lost cause. Get rid of the SM as well, you'll never have the time, money or parts to restore it. In stead spend your time and money on keeping the C6 alive. I love the C6. I saw it new at the dealers with my dad (big Citroen fan, 2x Dyane, 2 x GS, 2x CX, C5 and now C4) and we both fell in love with it (too expensive though). I would love to own and drive a C6. To me it's the modern version of the CX which is my favorite Citroen. However it's too unreliable for someone who isn't a mechanic to drive. You don't have that problem.
Dear Reader,
Sir UpnDown is not going to be a rational 'manager', and going to dump the C6 on economic grounds. That would not fit him. He is going to be chivalrous and save the C6 in despair. Because he has to, when he want's to stay true to his values. And it will be his last car to go.
With that solved, chapeau for his sincere love for needy people (Sophie's Legacy) and Citroens.
Michel F. van den Brun
Dutch pedestrian
I remember Car Magazine taking the mick out of every big Fiat that came out in the seventies and eighties, but I bet those who did buy them, enjoyed them.
I am constantly astonished at how quickly some cars are rising in value again. Morris Minors are incredibly reasonable, oddly. But it can't be long before the C6 time is here.
Has Citroen disowned them yet?
Pretty much.
@@UPnDOWN That's a shame. What ever happened to being proud of your back catalogue. (Stop sniggering at the back). 🙂
You'll regret selling it 3 grand buys you absolutely nothing take a step back and look at what a fantastic machine you have.
I do, but I have a few other fantastic machines aswell, which don't cost £60 a month to tax.
Keep it, if i still had my three cx's i sold for a few hundred quid..
After watching this video I've decided a C6 is not for me. It seems a whole lot more trouble than a CX.
This is the last real big comfy citroen. Put it in a corner, wait a few years and sell it. These will be worth a some money. Even a descent BX does 5k these days. And those were scrap cars back in the day.
Haven't really got a corner, that's the problem.
Everything you have spent on it is a sunk cost. It's gone, forget it. It's worth what someone will pay which in all honesty isn't much. If you love it and can afford the ongoing costs and are happy to meet those costs then keep it. If not, get it out the door for what it'll fetch. I'm not privy to your CZcams stats but I'd imagine the C6 videos are popular so the income from those will help offset the costs. Not an easy call but be hard-headed and save your sentimentality for the older Citroens, especially the SM. Best of luck.
Edited to add: the sight of all that plastic crap under the bonnet would have me waving goodbye. Imagine how much worse that will be in a few years.
Man maths = pain.