Inside The Twisted World of Zoe Laverne | TikTok's Biggest Predator

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  • čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
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    Join me as we take a look into the devastating fall of Zoe Laverne, the star predator of TikTok.
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    intro - 0:00
    who is zoe laverne? - 3:58
    charli d'amelio and other controversies - 8:43
    cody orlove - 11:42
    the first breakup - 17:46
    the second breakup - 22:35
    predator allegations - 29:53
    damage control - 33:10
    conclusion - 43:07
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  • @jaubrey
    @jaubrey  Před 3 lety +16239

    Since Jake Paul was kind enough to claim my video, I wanna give a huge thanks to Hunt a Killer for helping me out. Get 20% off your first box with code JAUBREY at huntakiller.com/jaubrey

    • @wafgafs
      @wafgafs Před 3 lety +404

      f

    • @khiraofficial5754
      @khiraofficial5754 Před 3 lety +1840

      mY tEaChErS nEvEr tAuGhT mE tHaT

    • @onionhombre
      @onionhombre Před 3 lety +1640

      Repost the video without the clip no one wants to hear that shit anyways

    • @AQWpaladan
      @AQWpaladan Před 3 lety +223

      Hate it here

    • @thebeesknees2503
      @thebeesknees2503 Před 3 lety +1305

      Dispute it! Or reupload without the clip, just dont give money to jake paul plz

  • @thatbitch5231
    @thatbitch5231 Před 3 lety +5337

    the way she understands that 13 years old is too young with the way she’s telling that 13 year old girl that she should "go play with barbies" but when it comes to that 13 year old boy suddenly he was mature enough and could consent 🤥

    • @lisasimpson5304
      @lisasimpson5304 Před 3 lety +204

      also he looks so little for his age..

    • @cammey3
      @cammey3 Před 3 lety +9

      Why did he start dating her then? He knew he was under age and could get her into trouble

    • @lisasimpson5304
      @lisasimpson5304 Před 3 lety +437

      @@cammey3 are you victim blaming rn?

    • @entityofthestars
      @entityofthestars Před 3 lety +274

      @@cammey3
      i believe zoe possibly groomed him into dating her in some form. we really shouldn't blame the kid. he probably thought it would be cool since that's a usual mindset for teens, they tend to brag abt their s/o being older or think they grown enough to do that, unaware that they're really a victim. however, zoe _knew for a fact_ she shouldn't have gotten with a *13 yr old* at her age, which is *19.*

    • @Marrisaplays2712
      @Marrisaplays2712 Před 3 lety +163

      @@cammey3 ....the same reason that he shouldn't be dating her? the fact that he's a kid and kids don't make rational decisions? bruh

  • @oikawahatesme
    @oikawahatesme Před 3 lety +21243

    it’s funny how she’s referred to as “the star of tiktok” when i literally didn’t hear of her until the grooming incident

    • @Tdoctortree
      @Tdoctortree Před 3 lety +91

      I didn’t know people made it until you have heard of them

    • @user-kt3qm8jy8y
      @user-kt3qm8jy8y Před 3 lety +526

      @@Tdoctortree hun, she was already on the path of irrelevance until her little groomer scandal. just admit you support a predator and move on.

    • @oikawahatesme
      @oikawahatesme Před 3 lety +158

      @@roscoebosco2178 oh yeah i saw that but i didn’t know it was her lol

    • @chickenmcdickin
      @chickenmcdickin Před 3 lety +42

      The only other time I've heard of her was with some stuff with Haley so it basically seems like everything she's been involved in is just a shitshow

    • @Tdoctortree
      @Tdoctortree Před 3 lety +34

      @@user-kt3qm8jy8y as I’ve never even been on TikTok once, I wouldn’t say I support her, I’ve also never heard of her until today, I was being as the cool kids say “sarcastic”. I hope she ends up in jail for what she did to that 13 year old. Thanks for assuming things about me though. *finger guns*

  • @DiaryOfJane04
    @DiaryOfJane04 Před rokem +1128

    she really said 'yes 19 and 13 is illegal BUT' but what?? BUT WHAT??? and people are steadily sending her gifts i literally cant wtf

    • @Fate263
      @Fate263 Před 10 měsíci +17

      Right... I would think it stops there after the word ILLEGAL!

    • @gypsywoman9140
      @gypsywoman9140 Před 8 měsíci +19

      But....but...she's pretty!
      Jk but that was probably the mentality of those sending gifts and they were also probably young, possibly thinking "I might have a chance with her!"

    • @Slut4NoOne
      @Slut4NoOne Před 6 měsíci +8

      @@gypsywoman9140makes sense considering most of her audience are pretty young

  • @Chelsea_._
    @Chelsea_._ Před rokem +621

    What’s wild looking back on this 2 years later is….Zoe is now at the drinking age of 21 and a mom, and this kid is still ONLY 15.

    • @harmc2301
      @harmc2301 Před 7 měsíci +22

      🤢

    • @rachelc.641
      @rachelc.641 Před 6 měsíci +62

      Damn that’s wild to think about. Like she’s legally going out to bars and changing diapers…
      And that kid is just now possibly getting his “learners permit”… like can’t even drive without an adult in the car 😐

    • @michaelcarter3149
      @michaelcarter3149 Před 4 měsíci +17

      Her kid is screwed.

    • @justacoffeemug1504
      @justacoffeemug1504 Před 3 měsíci +29

      @@michaelcarter3149yeah she literally charged her “fans” money to get pictures of her BABY that “no one else has” because they were “unposted” fucking disgusting. 🤢

  • @Rose-hh7mk
    @Rose-hh7mk Před 3 lety +3571

    "We both consented"
    Do you not understand the term "Age of consent?"

    • @Gabie76
      @Gabie76 Před 3 lety +57

      Average discord mod

    • @rainingopals1439
      @rainingopals1439 Před 3 lety +36

      His brain has 12 more years to develop.

    • @marzouk6270
      @marzouk6270 Před 3 lety +1

      Is it 18 in the USA?

    • @Gabie76
      @Gabie76 Před 3 lety +14

      @@marzouk6270 its 16 im pretty sure, but thats still 3 years older

    • @katiesimmet4750
      @katiesimmet4750 Před 3 lety +27

      @@marzouk6270 It varys between the states

  • @ashleydailey7844
    @ashleydailey7844 Před 3 lety +6126

    “I am Zoe Laverne and I am the star of tik tok” I literally laughed out loud. I had no idea who she was until her scandal

    • @SillyLilDawg
      @SillyLilDawg Před 3 lety +34

      Ayo same😂

    • @kimzgal
      @kimzgal Před 3 lety +14

      lol same

    • @left-2-write28
      @left-2-write28 Před 3 lety +100

      Even a good while into the video, I didnt understand how or why she was famous. To be fair, I just assume it's because shes attractive?? Idk.

    • @SillyLilDawg
      @SillyLilDawg Před 3 lety +10

      @@left-2-write28 I think so

    • @billiebrickz4617
      @billiebrickz4617 Před 3 lety +9

      I was today years old

  • @geoffgaebe8354
    @geoffgaebe8354 Před 9 měsíci +221

    "I didn't do anything without his consent". Zoe... a 13 year old CAN'T LEGALLY CONSENT to anything. That's why there "age of consent" laws on the books.

    • @alexneuman600
      @alexneuman600 Před 8 měsíci +8

      I mean she literally implied that she would f-word him if he gave "consent" . Which probably happened. She had no problem forcing herself on someone who didn't want her (while she was dating someone else) so what's stopping her from doing it with a child who she already made out with and who isn't going to fight back.

    • @-Sh-420
      @-Sh-420 Před 2 měsíci

      but she is a female and therefore the male was the protagonist, hell lets just pretend he violently threatened her to abuse a child.

  • @whatsmayonnaise7070
    @whatsmayonnaise7070 Před rokem +258

    As a kid he prolly saw a 19 year old approaching him as an honor, as a 19 year old she should’ve seen approaching a 13 year old as a horrible idea

  • @maisy7502
    @maisy7502 Před 3 lety +11838

    I don't understand why a lot of people don't hold female predators accountable. its disgusting

    • @gray4127
      @gray4127 Před 3 lety +298

      Her fans are so disgusting

    • @nicomar3506
      @nicomar3506 Před 3 lety +894

      There is seriously such a weird double standard. I especially hate the "joke" of a hot woman raping a man in movies or sexually harassing them and it's supposed to be funny??? Assault is assault no matter what but the joke is that the woman is hot and the man is supposed to like it, even if they're clearly not into it. If Zoe was a man, she would be in WAY bigger trouble rn. Look at what happened to James Charles over ALLEGATIONS and not actual evidence.
      Edit 1 month later: this comment aged like milk in regards to James Charles lmao

    • @smackaroossmackamack5588
      @smackaroossmackamack5588 Před 3 lety +89

      @@nicomar3506 honestly it's probably anime/hentai related. Most pertaining to shota and older women considering most meme about it when this topic is brought up.

    • @nicomar3506
      @nicomar3506 Před 3 lety +263

      @@smackaroossmackamack5588 I’m talking about in Hollywood movies too, not just anime

    • @starscream8989
      @starscream8989 Před 3 lety +48

      Double standards

  • @user-es3bl4hb7s
    @user-es3bl4hb7s Před 3 lety +23913

    wait so let’s make this clear, in the clip of zoe doxing a *13* year old she quotes “go play with barbies, go watch disney” meaning in her eyes that age correlates to being a young child. yet she’s trying to justify kissing ( possibly more) and grooming a *13* year old and saying the kid consented even though it’s clear in zoe’s head that 13 year olds are only kids and only pushes the point that kids don’t have a mature enough mindset to be doing sexual things let alone consent to those things.

    • @arielc2381
      @arielc2381 Před 3 lety +1413

      👁👄👁 horrifying but good fucking catch, idk how many times I’ve seen that clip and I never picked up on that !!

    • @LaPlaztique
      @LaPlaztique Před 3 lety +87

      🙌

    • @sarahdavies5564
      @sarahdavies5564 Před 3 lety +247

      should be top comment

    • @LeeLee1985Official
      @LeeLee1985Official Před 3 lety +70

      Exactly!!!!

    • @turgburger
      @turgburger Před 3 lety +164

      Zoe probably thinks woody Allen did nothing wrong. is there a female version of NAMBLA?

  • @ronniegruhlke1774
    @ronniegruhlke1774 Před rokem +541

    i went to hs with her, i was a year older and trust me when i tell you literally no one knew who she was til she dropped out and said "everyones too obsessed with me" then everyone became obsessed with trying to figure out who this nobody is that says we all know her 😂 she was not even like a popular-adjacent kid nor was she even super disliked, like she was legit just unknown by 99% of people in out fairly small school

    • @haehehej
      @haehehej Před rokem +7

      wait u went to the same school as her!?

    • @melvram
      @melvram Před rokem +16

      @@haehehejthat’s what they said

    • @heyits_kat
      @heyits_kat Před rokem +5

      @@CS88528 🧐😲🫣🍿

    • @nightigal
      @nightigal Před 11 měsíci +20

      ​@@CS88528 either one or both of you is lying or someone didn't pay attention to any of the social stuff going on around them.

    • @Vaternal
      @Vaternal Před 9 měsíci

      Delusional lol

  • @its-MK...
    @its-MK... Před rokem +283

    Full grown adults often need years to process & realize a relationship was abusive. And the younger you are, the harder it usually is to understand your situation. Her ex-friend was right that this kid is gonna look back on this very differently one day.

  • @bent8085
    @bent8085 Před 3 lety +6016

    Me to children: remember kids, don't do drugs
    Me to adults: remember adults, don't do kids

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Před 3 lety +179

      same advice, but do do calling 911 on creeps.

    • @ediblestars07
      @ediblestars07 Před 3 lety +81

      @@ddjsoyenby I sat here reading ur comment for like 5 mins and I still don’t know what u mean

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Před 3 lety +77

      @@ediblestars07 call 911 on creeps.

    • @ediblestars07
      @ediblestars07 Před 3 lety +26

      @@ddjsoyenby ye

    • @thexbigxgreen
      @thexbigxgreen Před 3 lety +94

      Me to drugs: remember drugs, be done by me

  • @thedarkcat7484
    @thedarkcat7484 Před 3 lety +6519

    I can confirm, to any middle schoolers and even young high schoolers out there, that college student does not love you. That literal adult is not your soulmate. That person is using you, twisting your relationships with others, and taking advantage of you. They don't love you. They love the idea of something *like* you.

  • @bazig2070
    @bazig2070 Před 3 měsíci +18

    Somehow I feel like I've been spared a brain aneurism by not downloading TikTok

  • @masonheitner8410
    @masonheitner8410 Před rokem +108

    I shiver at the 6 year age gap. It didn't fall into perspective until I realized that my brother and I are 6 years apart. I'm 20 and he's 14. That's an OBSCENE difference in maturity- like HOLY SHIT! Especially for boys since we mature slower....Zoe a total creep.

    • @flowingleaves
      @flowingleaves Před 10 měsíci +4

      yh it didnt click for me until i realised that me and my baby brother have a 7 year difference. when im 19, hell be 12. thinking about dating someone his age makes me queasy

    • @Sugar_C4ine
      @Sugar_C4ine Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@flowingleavesbro same, my sister is 10 and im 17 its fucking gross and WEIRD that youd date someone with that big of an age gap, they are supposed to be the annoying brothers/sister or friends that you bully not date 💀

  • @SoupyGal
    @SoupyGal Před 3 lety +18864

    I hate listening to privileged rich kids whine about money and success.

  • @izzybop24601
    @izzybop24601 Před 3 lety +2072

    Okay she’s clearly not the star of tik tok because I have no idea who she is

    • @jofip9199
      @jofip9199 Před 3 lety +92

      Lmaooooo now she is gonna go crying to her mom 😭

    • @fairlysleepy
      @fairlysleepy Před 3 lety +58

      I've heard her name but I've never seen her tiktok pop up at all for me

    • @kaitlyndoesstuff_7809
      @kaitlyndoesstuff_7809 Před 3 lety +112

      I aint never heard of her until she was outed as a predator🤚😔

    • @gavanwhatever8196
      @gavanwhatever8196 Před 3 lety +1

      wot's tik tok?

    • @LaPlaztique
      @LaPlaztique Před 3 lety +22

      Right? I had never heard of her until the video of her kissing the 13 year old boy was blasted all over the internet.

  • @cha0ticneutralbigs
    @cha0ticneutralbigs Před rokem +47

    As someone who was groomed repeatedly by multiple people and convinced it was normal I feel so bad for the kid I hope he gets out of that situation and gets the help he needs to heal from what she did to him

  • @the1prodig432
    @the1prodig432 Před 2 lety +184

    Y’all know she has a child and still posts content? Go check the comment sections on those videos and there are literally people still supporting her and endorsing doing this kind of thing! I’m actually disgusted.

  • @destroya_at_the_disco4505
    @destroya_at_the_disco4505 Před 3 lety +4100

    “We both consented to a kiss”
    13 YEAR OLDS CAN NOT LEGALLY CONSENT TO KISSING WITH A GROWN ASS ADULT. THEY ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH FOR THAT

    • @AlexWolf1203
      @AlexWolf1203 Před 3 lety +97

      PERIODTTT! ITS LITERALLY ILLEGAL SMH 🤦‍♂️

    • @khaozxx
      @khaozxx Před 3 lety +47

      LIKE-IT’S BEEN A FEW YEARS, MAYBE MONTHS SINCE STARTING PUBERTY

    • @adayg8367
      @adayg8367 Před 3 lety +2

      Shes not an adult tho shes still young

    • @khaozxx
      @khaozxx Před 3 lety +116

      @@adayg8367 she’s a young adult since she’s 19/20

    • @destroya_at_the_disco4505
      @destroya_at_the_disco4505 Před 3 lety +114

      @@adayg8367 she’s literally 19, which makes her an adult in the eyes of the law which is the only thing that matters in this instance. She’s kissed a 13 year old who is under the age of consent as a legal adult. It’s disgusting

  • @mmtelz
    @mmtelz Před 3 lety +4984

    “Anyone can kiss anyone they want. They’re friends.” There’s a lot to unpack there lmao

    • @thoticcusprime9309
      @thoticcusprime9309 Před 3 lety +18

      Girls do this. seen it in school and online. normie females

    • @achxo6340
      @achxo6340 Před 3 lety +284

      @@thoticcusprime9309 uh what

    • @oofmyguy9807
      @oofmyguy9807 Před 3 lety +109

      @@thoticcusprime9309 no..? Girls dont kiss eachother??

    • @spencermortensen334
      @spencermortensen334 Před 3 lety +277

      You heard it hear folks. You can kiss the homies 💪🔥💯

    • @trash_kingg4788
      @trash_kingg4788 Před 3 lety +136

      @@oofmyguy9807 I mean, some do, but not platonic friends lol

  • @Rivers_TG
    @Rivers_TG Před 4 měsíci +12

    If the time period is right, the victim is now 15, meaning he's just now in High School, the time most complicated. Not only does he have to deal with his grooming having been put on blast, because a 19 year old tiktok star couldn't keep her hands to herself, He's dealing with puberty and all the things on top of it. It'll be so much harder for him to process this, and I hope, I HOPE, he has a support system and hopefully has a therapist.
    The fact that he felt like he's dome something wrong is actually disgusting, and it's most likely Zoe manipulated him in some other way to make him belive that.

  • @shr1mpsush1
    @shr1mpsush1 Před 11 měsíci +52

    Zoey: "Most people never heard of me before i was accused of grooming minors!"
    Miranda Sings: *First time?*

  • @JonnyPlaysGolf
    @JonnyPlaysGolf Před 3 lety +23525

    The fact that I've only heard of Zoe Laverne after this vid makes me feel like I've succeeded in life

    • @7aristos7
      @7aristos7 Před 3 lety +259

      i envy you

    • @nighty6274
      @nighty6274 Před 3 lety +447

      I'm kinda glad I have the internet where it's just chill gaming instead recommending this toxic cancer shit

    • @SpydersByte
      @SpydersByte Před 3 lety +121

      yea, same, tiktok is a cesspool

    • @mikelob6707
      @mikelob6707 Před 3 lety +19

      Amen

    • @sumisumi-by8xv
      @sumisumi-by8xv Před 3 lety +114

      Yep same here , but to think 17 mill people follows her... It shows we as human race will not have a pleasant future

  • @knobjob2839
    @knobjob2839 Před 3 lety +5442

    Trying to forcefully remove his pants isn't harassment, Jaubry, that's assault.

    • @mcman3252
      @mcman3252 Před 3 lety +71

      Haha you said ASSault

    • @yoloswaggininabox4088
      @yoloswaggininabox4088 Před 3 lety +458

      i was looking for a comment like this, thank god someone realises. Kinda sad how if he was a girl this would have blown up and he would be cancelled and called a rapist. But double standards ig :/

    • @knobjob2839
      @knobjob2839 Před 3 lety +69

      Exactly. It's unacceptable.

    • @brianschofield4419
      @brianschofield4419 Před 3 lety +54

      Yeah. assault no question

    • @anigerkrad1604
      @anigerkrad1604 Před 3 lety +4

      @@mcman3252 uh. Yeah... 🤦‍♂️

  • @signofthecrimes1534
    @signofthecrimes1534 Před 2 lety +50

    the fact that she's married and has a kid now, and everyone seemed to forget what happened

  • @Claudia-so8ch
    @Claudia-so8ch Před rokem +47

    She actually had a baby and I feel so bad for that child...

  • @maybehere_
    @maybehere_ Před 3 lety +8962

    she's an awful person, I hate the double standard of male predators vs woman predators. 😐

    • @autisticrabi5296
      @autisticrabi5296 Před 3 lety +380

      Agreed.
      Its sickening that it even exists in the first place.

    • @oofgod4235
      @oofgod4235 Před 3 lety +50

      Agree

    • @gray4127
      @gray4127 Před 3 lety +195

      Het fans are so bad on tiktok don't even get me started

    • @iidesolateii2837
      @iidesolateii2837 Před 3 lety +197

      Double standards are a sadly a huge part of life...Luckily, that's changing but it'll be a while before it becomes more mainstream

    • @PridelessChickz
      @PridelessChickz Před 3 lety +46

      The Queen of England and the Pope were found *GUILTY in court* for child sacrifice in the Ninth Circle Society. Celebrities are often in on it, even the "kindest" ones who seem selfless and good-- they're often the worst. They're all actors, no matter the profession, and they're all too good at it. Don't trust them. Pass on this info please. We have four channels exposing as much as we can, but our main focus is saving the children and raising awareness of trafficking. Thank you.

  • @snafubar447
    @snafubar447 Před 3 lety +10082

    Zoe: "I am the star of Tik Tok."
    Me: "I don't even know who you are."

    • @eyesjelky
      @eyesjelky Před 3 lety +51

      LMAOOO

    • @Germania72
      @Germania72 Před 3 lety +127

      I was looking for this comment. I thought I didn't know her because I'm too old for this sh#$. LOL

    • @Jas13579
      @Jas13579 Před 3 lety +127

      I'm her targeted demographic,and I didn't even know who she was

    • @dustmepink
      @dustmepink Před 2 lety +35

      Right 😂😂 if it wasn’t for this video I wouldn’t know who she is

    • @snafubar447
      @snafubar447 Před 2 lety +5

      Exactly.

  • @ExplosiveDevil
    @ExplosiveDevil Před rokem +89

    It's clear that if she were a man with a 13 year old girl, he would've been charged on the spot and imprisoned. The fact that she was able to STILL post tik toks after these allegations shows how female predators aren't persecuted NEARLY to the same extent as male ones.
    Both are disgusting and should be treated the same way, with bans and prison-time. End of story.

    • @iloveglizzy69
      @iloveglizzy69 Před rokem +16

      and the people that have the NERVE to say that "hurr durr the boy was lucky"??? absolutely disgusting

    • @Vaternal
      @Vaternal Před 9 měsíci +6

      It’s because she looks like a 13 year old herself honestly if I didn’t know her age I would’ve thought she was the same age she also acts like she’s 13 too

    • @Angry.-.
      @Angry.-. Před 6 měsíci +1

      EXACTLY!!!!

    • @multijxde1855
      @multijxde1855 Před 5 měsíci +3

      tbh there are male youtubers and tiktokers who did stuff w minors and they’re still popular on those apps. it’s because their female audiences don’t care.

    • @emilyrasputin
      @emilyrasputin Před měsícem +1

      I absolutely agree that both are equally despicable and should be treated as such. I really don't think a 19 year old guy would go to prison for what she admitted to, though. I knew several girls growing up who had boyfriends way older than us (like, 18+ when we were 14) and only one of them even got charged with anything to my knowledge. That honestly only speaks to how shitty our society is at putting predators away, though.

  • @DimaRakesah
    @DimaRakesah Před rokem +36

    I used to have a best friend who was just like this. She lied about what other people were doing to her in order to gain sympathy and support from people. For example she told us that her husband was abusive and she was leaving him, that her grandmother was dying and she spent her nights in the hospital with her. None of it was true. Her husband was completely unaware anything was going on and she was actually spending her nights at a dude's house, cheating on her husband. Only once she couldn't keep the lies going and just up and left with her side guy did we realize what was actually going on. She abandoned her husband, kids and friends because she didn't want to be held responsible for her lies and she honestly didn't seem to care or feel bad about it. Keeping someone supporting her at all times, no matter what lies she spewed or what she did, was more important than anything, apparently.

  • @lunapyrope9683
    @lunapyrope9683 Před 2 lety +3797

    “We didn’t do anything without his consent” LADY HE IS A CHILD. CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT

    • @sin3358
      @sin3358 Před 2 lety +96

      I kinda feel odd to read that cause clearly they CAN consent. But not for sexual stuff with ADULTS! A 13 year old with another 13 year old is no biggie, both are equally as inexperienced anyway. But someone who's clearly on a different range than them takes advantage of them. Sorry if my comment seems irrelevant cause ik what u meant but I simply am a bit triggered by the idea that young people "can't consent" jfbfjdbdjdj just my childhood trauma kicking in, mind u

    • @PalladlaChouette
      @PalladlaChouette Před 2 lety +84

      @@sin3358 Age of Consent laws are very strange. But usually, with the age of consent, once you turn 16, you can consent to anyone a few years older. However, there is still a certain limit. But before you turn 16, you can ONLY consent to people your age. And it is understandable because they have similar levels of maturity. But the difference between a 13 year old and a 14 year old is quite a lot even being a year apart.

    • @ariadneschild8460
      @ariadneschild8460 Před 2 lety +38

      Classic abuser minimising her actions.

    • @tri_wjbu
      @tri_wjbu Před 2 lety +43

      @@GrunesGemuse Uhm ... Can somebody explain to him. I'm too lazy to do that

    • @neondemons
      @neondemons Před 2 lety

      @@sin3358 It also depends if they’re both children too, as children can still molest other children.

  • @annisakheiralla6945
    @annisakheiralla6945 Před 3 lety +3275

    “friends catch feelings for each other”
    why is a 19 year old friends with a 13 year old in the first place?!?!

    • @ryemcglone6357
      @ryemcglone6357 Před 3 lety +68

      right?? that’s the same age gap between me and my brother smh

    • @John-doe955
      @John-doe955 Před 3 lety +142

      I mean seriously, I’ve never seen any people who are 19 get along with 13 year olds. As an example, if you even sound like a kid and play a video game, you’ll immediately be given shit for as long as you’re in the lobby. People at those ages do not get along at all, and almost all 19 year olds will definitely attempt to distance themselves from a 13 year old or anyone of a similar age as much as possible. Her excuse that she was just a friend who caught feelings for her 13 year old friend is obviously bs. She used her status as a popular influencer to pursue a relationship with someone who is under 18 and has a significant age difference compared to her, that is grooming and sexual misconduct, and incredibly disturbing.

    • @quandaledingle7326
      @quandaledingle7326 Před 3 lety +5

      he was in her fandom and they became close

    • @Aurakyuki
      @Aurakyuki Před 3 lety +74

      Okay I entirely get what you’re saying and I agree but there’s a pedantic part of me thats gotta say there’s nothing wrong with two people being friends regardless of age its the actions they take, and that gap should just mean more caution is taken to make sure those who are much older aren’t awful people and abuse their power.
      Again, I’m not outright disagreeing, and anyone can feel free to give me whatever shit they want if they do, its just as a 19 year old who is actually good friends with a couple people who are 13-14 it just kinda worries me some people might escalate that and take it to the extreme, just knowing how the internet can be sometimes.
      Really sorry if this comes across poorly, I’m not exactly great at contributing to a conversation when I feel I have something to add.

    • @calmingsoothingrelaxation9996
      @calmingsoothingrelaxation9996 Před 3 lety +7

      Age gap is the new racism. Separate, separate, separate.
      Why do you people want the people in society atomized?

  • @MCPunk55
    @MCPunk55 Před 2 lety +162

    The fact a female predator is being put on the spot is incredible. Women tend to have legal immunity to crimes of sexual nature, especially when against men. I speak from first hand experience as a male victim.

    • @brandygray4422
      @brandygray4422 Před rokem +17

      She may be getting talked about but that's it.. she didn't lose anything, she still has a ton of followers..no charges were brought against her.

    • @MCPunk55
      @MCPunk55 Před rokem +2

      @@brandygray4422 Yeah... Patriarchy and male privilege all the way.

    • @brandygray4422
      @brandygray4422 Před rokem +7

      @@MCPunk55 I just ment that she should of been immediately banned as a male creator would/has been for the same type of issues. Most the time even a whisper of this shit and a guy would of been tore apart, there's literal video proof here an yet she's faced no punishment.

    • @MCPunk55
      @MCPunk55 Před rokem +1

      @@brandygray4422 You really don't get sarcasm, do you?!

    • @namelessman6257
      @namelessman6257 Před rokem +7

      You really did not sound sarcastic.

  • @vgm_central
    @vgm_central Před rokem +14

    social media should be forbidden till you reach 18 years. change my mind

    • @Somebody9666
      @Somebody9666 Před rokem +4

      Also that you gotta get a lisence to have children. Some people should not be parents.

  • @bri.janell13
    @bri.janell13 Před 3 lety +2696

    I can not wrap my head around how she made herself into a victim whilst talking about accusations of her being a pedophile towards a 13 year old.

    • @ellemmenn2930
      @ellemmenn2930 Před 3 lety +41

      Because she’s probably never been made to take any responsibility or accountability for herself words or actions

    • @Deenique16
      @Deenique16 Před 3 lety +15

      This is disgusting. No off but wouldn't the correct term be predator

    • @ellemmenn2930
      @ellemmenn2930 Před 3 lety +9

      @@Deenique16 it absolutely would be a correct term IMO

    • @maffieduran
      @maffieduran Před 3 lety +4

      Because that is what predators do

    • @59rustyninja95
      @59rustyninja95 Před 3 lety +7

      Its crazy what getting that kind of fame so quickly can do to someone, especially someone who's still very young. All of them play the victim role until theres enough proof and backlash to make them redirect their efforts. Even I played victim when i was that age about dumb shit when it barely mattered. Let alone when you do mess up having 100 million eyes scrutinizing your every move and having that pressure on your shoulders to seem "perfect" or you get chewed up by the internet. I'm not saying she was in the right in any way, in fact quite the opposite, but i understand how she's developed that mentality from the constant praise and scrutiny of fame at a very young age without any real guidance

  • @acidspitpanda
    @acidspitpanda Před 3 lety +1641

    being a predator and saying “i am literally the star of tiktok” jesus christ she’s the worst

    • @justanotherhappyhumanist8832
      @justanotherhappyhumanist8832 Před 3 lety +30

      “That bitch is going to pass me, and she can’t! I just want to show that I’m better than her because I am Zoe fucking Laverne, and I’M the star of TikTok, not her!”
      Yikes.

    • @-beanis-4844
      @-beanis-4844 Před 3 lety +12

      I think a groomer being a well-known tiktok star speaks volume lol

    • @Deenique16
      @Deenique16 Před 3 lety

      @@-beanis-4844 why is that funny?

    • @zoemerlot8350
      @zoemerlot8350 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Deenique16 they aren’t necessarily saying it’s funny. i think the “lol” is just grimly laughing at the irony of it all.

    • @TheCashotking
      @TheCashotking Před 3 lety

      Thats like homelander

  • @Its.bayyyyyy
    @Its.bayyyyyy Před 9 měsíci +11

    Zoe's dad was my mechanic years ago & when she first got started, all he did was brag on her. He was proud to have pulled her out of school bc she was finding success as a kid. Now, all he can do is protect, defend, & support her as an adult with her own family. 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @HopeIsADrug11037
    @HopeIsADrug11037 Před rokem +75

    it makes me so sad that the 13 YEAR OLD VICTIM was apologizing so much. like, he literally didn't do anything wrong. that makes me so upset

  • @braiiarb
    @braiiarb Před 3 lety +5098

    Hopefully she's "straight vibin" straight to prison lol.

    • @Cinko420
      @Cinko420 Před 3 lety +119

      Brai
      straight vibing straight to hell.

    • @____0_0____
      @____0_0____ Před 3 lety +8

      Amen🙏

    • @WhitneyDahlin
      @WhitneyDahlin Před 3 lety +59

      I agree. I believe her ex boyfriend Cody too. 26:00 most women who abuse men do so in totally different ways than most men abuse women. One of the hallmarks of an abusive woman is purposefully disrespecting their significant others personal boundaries and calls for space and to leave them alone. People ask for space when they know they're getting too emotional and upset so they ask for space too cool off and continue the argument when they aren't as emotional. It's instinctive. So the abuser purposefully ignores the SO in order to keep pushing and keep upsetting the SO so the SO will lose their temper and yell or push the abuser out of the room. That way the abuser can play the victim and gaslight the SO into blaming themselves and thinking they (the SO) is the bad person and the one in the wrong, instead of the truth. It is a 100% guarantee that the abusive woman will pull this when they are for sure in the wrong that way they can play like they aren't in the wrong and that they are the actual victim in this situation. And most people, especially mature ones, feel bad for losing their temper and yelling even if they were provoked into doing so and literally weren't given any other option. Because that's what female abusers do. They corner you so you're only way out is to attack them verbally or physically so they can play the victim. And that is how they manipulate you. Game, set, match. If your Significant Other is pulling this behavior on you, you are in an abusive relationship and you need to seek help immediately. It never gets better and only gets worse. That's what's so evil about female abusers. Their favorite hat to wear is that of victim and that's how they keep you from ever leaving them or ever telling anyone what you are experiencing. They trick you into thinking it's all your fault and they're an innocent victim and use shame and guilt to keep you silent and keep you from ever escaping them. They play the victim to the whole world and paint you to be the bad guy and the abusive one in the relationship.

    • @TheSlop_18
      @TheSlop_18 Před 3 lety

      Yes

    • @charlie-cr5bs
      @charlie-cr5bs Před 3 lety

      vouch

  • @WinterReflections
    @WinterReflections Před 3 lety +1650

    The fact that she keeps saying "WE" made a mistake "WE" did this or that, shows that she fundamentally does not see what she did wrong. He was not an equal partner in a relationship, he was a child and victim. He did nothing, he legally could not consent. The way that kid spoke about it is sad.

    • @lexivee9571
      @lexivee9571 Před 3 lety +87

      My thoughts exactly. She was pulled out of school at 15 and it seems like she never really matured from that point. She probably could relate to a 13 year old kid. Not that it makes this situation *any* less messed up.

    • @whatthehellisthis
      @whatthehellisthis Před 3 lety +22

      it’s kind of terrifying that she’s this lacking in maturity when she’s actually a year older than me...
      also this is unrelated but i love your pfp

    • @manchild3437
      @manchild3437 Před 3 lety +4

      You need to know the truth in order to lie so extensively about it, maybe even to yourself, the way she is lying suggests that she is well aware of what she is doing.

    • @crvstalfiction
      @crvstalfiction Před 3 lety +1

      i mean yeah shes a 19 year old child that lives on social media. what do you expect to happen? Her to handle this maturely and justly?

    • @francescan2429
      @francescan2429 Před 3 lety

      @@crvstalfiction Literal toddlers can understand fairness, she's had time to develop enough to understand morals and that she is wrong.

  • @Rachel98246
    @Rachel98246 Před rokem +26

    Zoe: *admits to kissing a child*
    Her chat: OMG, YES QUEEN!!!!!!😍👑 I LOVE YOU!!!❤️❤️❤️ GO OFFFFFF!!!!!!😩💕

  • @carmenduf5574
    @carmenduf5574 Před rokem +17

    I live in the same town as Zoe and can confirm some of the claims about her going for people younger than her. In 2018 she asked a friend of mine’s younger sister and their friends to have a sleepover with her. She met them while they were taking a walk and she knew they were fans. At the time Zoe was 18 and the girls were all 11 or 12 at the time. Truly odd and predatory behavior. She used the fact that they were fans who worshiped her to her advantage.

  • @lemonily9645
    @lemonily9645 Před 3 lety +3540

    Since you've clearly been working on this for a while, here's an update for everyone who wanted to know. Zoe Laverne is still verified on tiktok, and currently sits at 17.7 million subscribers. When she turns her comments on, people still bring this up. The kid she groomed, well his account got banned for "multiple violations of the terms of service."
    Life continues to be fair.

    • @Lesnooch
      @Lesnooch Před 3 lety +274

      Allowing tech was the biggest mistake humans ever made. She should go on twitter, they love kiddie lewds too.

    • @alexu176
      @alexu176 Před 3 lety +100

      wow this needs to be upvoted. that's messed up

    • @chebic5095
      @chebic5095 Před 3 lety +296

      TBH what where we expecting? This is the same platform that has guidelines to shadow ban handicapped persons and POC. They probably have a pro pedo program at this point.

    • @DrEaMsNoEviL
      @DrEaMsNoEviL Před 3 lety +9

      Yikes. Ty tho

    • @az6604
      @az6604 Před 3 lety +17

      @Cat Egorical hi im not tryna defend anyone, or start a fight, just genuinely curious, since ive seen ppl mention it a buncha times, i think tiktok is owned by ByteDance, which is an american company. But its banned here where i live and chinese apps are banned here too i think, so im not too sure.

  • @skycrimson7856
    @skycrimson7856 Před 3 lety +2157

    She's still stuck in the past...she still thinks she's 16 years old. She doesn't want to move on with life and doesn't want to accept that she's now an adult and has to think about the consequences of her action.

    • @miku39chan
      @miku39chan Před 3 lety +15

      Okay but you do know that the brain isn’t fully developed until 25? Until then your brain WILL think way way more emotional than logical. There is a reason for my country only giving you full punishment for crimes if You’re above 21. before that you will be counted as a teen- that committed a crime if you’re like her she has even better chance of getting only the „teen“ punishment which would be NONE in this case since it would count into age of consent here. I’m 16 and she’s unbelievable immature, Jesus Christ y’all need to think logical too, this bih is a (nine-)TEEN (yo)

    • @tei4724
      @tei4724 Před 3 lety +167

      @@miku39chan I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say, save for that you think Zoe Laverne should be given more leeway.
      It is not normal or acceptable (or an oopsy) for a 19-year-old to have any form of non-platonic relationship with a 13-year-old (even platonically it's a bit weird). Zoe fully understands the maturity gap as evidenced by her mocking a 13-year-old and saying they should go play with barbies. There are no blurred lines here- she sees 13-year-olds as immature and yet chooses to have a relationship with one.
      Also, just cause it's legal doesn't mean it's right and the age of consent can have layers. Technically a 12-year-old can consent in my country too- but there's a two-year buffer so they could not consent to relations with someone older than them by two years (this two-year buffer continues up till the person turns 16).
      Sure, your brain completely develops by around age 25, but it doesn't mean there aren't vast differences in maturity from age 13 to 19. I'm 17 and I see the 12-year-olds at my school as children. Our understanding and perception of the world are so vastly different- our ability to assess what is good for us and what is harmful is too. You can't be perfect as a teen but it isn't hard to avoid predatory behavior.

    • @miku39chan
      @miku39chan Před 3 lety +4

      @@tei4724 it’s true it’s true, but they develope differently, shes a bit „back“ to me, but mentally definitely not under 16, and yes- there is a two layer, for us it’s at least 0-14-16 and 16 to any age (only if it’s your teacher etc it’s illegal)

    • @tei4724
      @tei4724 Před 3 lety +90

      @@miku39chan Mm, well even if she is more immature than the average 19-year-old, it doesn't excuse what she did

    • @taskmagician4289
      @taskmagician4289 Před 3 lety +9

      I mean 19 and 16 isn’t that much of a difference but yeah. No one under 14 should be dating anyone.

  • @kaizeelamilidynne5797
    @kaizeelamilidynne5797 Před rokem +19

    That kid shouldn't be apologising at all. He's the victim of this whole situation.

  • @KristinA-xv4yk
    @KristinA-xv4yk Před 2 lety +93

    I seriously feel for all you zoomers. Like my god. Everyone has teen drama, but you guys have more destructive forces to contend with than anyone has before you. Love, older sibling generation ❤️

    • @Yorokobi224
      @Yorokobi224 Před rokem +1

      We just didn't have audio and video going all the time

    • @cd4497
      @cd4497 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Thank your generation from us zoomers, for loving us despite all the theatrics and social media drama. We love you❤

    • @JohnSaysHi
      @JohnSaysHi Před 8 měsíci +3

      I'm grateful every day that I graduated in 2000 and the only videos of me that exist from that time are a handful of VHS tapes my mom recorded on our massive home video camera, lol. Can't imagine a digital record of my teens being out there for people to look at.

    • @mjriemen
      @mjriemen Před měsícem

      @@JohnSaysHiBoy you aint kidding. I’m glad no one was recording AIM chats back then or whatever… sheesh

  • @avagrace8239
    @avagrace8239 Před 3 lety +4278

    if this doesn’t sicken you, imagine if it were a 13 year old girl and a 19 year old man.

    • @millsmami
      @millsmami Před 3 lety +606

      When I was 15, I was being wooed by a 33 year old and all of my friends thought it was great that such an attractive, older man was interested in me. I thought he was weird af cause he had a daughter that was like 11 or 12.. I asked him if he would be comfortable with a friend of his coming at his daughter the same way and he got mad.. 😐 He never stopped trying tho, until I moved out of the neighborhood. Pervs are everywhere, male and female. Zoe is a perv.🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @braedenveloza9788
      @braedenveloza9788 Před 3 lety +27

      why do y’all do this???

    • @anjasikkema7393
      @anjasikkema7393 Před 3 lety +43

      What actually blew my mind is I was watching a series that popped up on my feed here on CZcams and I believe it’s called “Real Life Documentaries” and this particular series was about Teen Mom/Teen Parenting it took place in the UK, my take on it was that it was a UK Vee iOSon of the US mtv series Teen mom. And the one that shocked me and still bothers me, is one is about not just 1 teen pregnant but 2 teen sisters ages 13 and 16 and the 13’s boyfriend lived with the young girls family and he was 19 and then 13 yr old pregnant girl her boyfriend also lived in the teen pregnant sisters family home too, and he was 22 and she was 13. Shocked me that the interviewer didn’t mention the age difference as an issue, completely floored me. Does anyone know if the UK doesn’t have any age cut off of when it become pedophilia? I was shocked, the filming was older but definitely still in the 2000’s - 2010’s (if I was too guess). Their mom and stepdad didn’t mind it not the slightest. I dunno why I mentioned this in here but, bothered me that even the people with the tv series weren’t bothered by it. I watched it about 2-4months ago and itconcerns me deeply📀
      Me

    • @melissadunton3534
      @melissadunton3534 Před 3 lety +2

      Nailed it!!!!!

    • @i_am_a_cunt8967
      @i_am_a_cunt8967 Před 3 lety +21

      I don’t have to imagine me being a 13 year old because I am one 😔✨

  • @theburningpen
    @theburningpen Před 3 lety +4149

    Friendly reminder that MEN CAN BE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED TOO. And if you have endured this, please talk to someone.

    • @junohawthorne7658
      @junohawthorne7658 Před 3 lety +468

      @@ameilioracryptos5298 and? Being raped is only one type of sexual assault. The mental repercussions are the same, regardless of the victim’s gender and chance of getting pregnant

    • @aceroo215
      @aceroo215 Před 3 lety +359

      @@ameilioracryptos5298 just because men don't have the risk of being pregnant didn't mean there aren't other things. If men are r//ped, they can still get STDs, and they can still get trauma from it. People think they don't get r//ped because men enjoy sex, but that doesn't apply to all men. There still needs to be a sober consent from both parties.

    • @Not_Claptrap
      @Not_Claptrap Před 3 lety +184

      @@ameilioracryptos5298 you have to be joking. Theres absolutely no way you actually believe that shit

    • @tishaprnucedteasha
      @tishaprnucedteasha Před 3 lety +131

      @@ameilioracryptos5298 trans men exist, intersex men exist so false

    • @bananaberry5909
      @bananaberry5909 Před 3 lety +15

      @@MrMrpaulo2012 im going to sound stupid but dear god please be joking

  • @rondyreeves4772
    @rondyreeves4772 Před rokem +8

    Brothers and sisters, PLEASE STOP making talentless people famous because they post crap on CZcams and Tik-Tok.

  • @watsonwrote
    @watsonwrote Před rokem +10

    20:25 This is a strong example of sexual harassment and why we need to hold harassers accountable. If the female is a perpetrator and the victim a male, that doesn't change the problem. Touching someone without their permission and badgering them for sex is not only distressing and uncomfortable, but it can cause problems for them down the line.

  • @jaidynreneee
    @jaidynreneee Před 3 lety +1937

    If Zoe was a man then people would flip out. Stop with the double standards. A predator is a predator regardless of gender

    • @jvckiwai7715
      @jvckiwai7715 Před 3 lety +142

      Nope, because same thing was with tony lopez. The problem is that their fanbases are very young and don't hold them accountable for ANYTHING. + it's men who said "damn 13 year old got game" and hyping him for "pulling" a 19 year old woman... It's men who make this double standard.

    • @ilikeyourcutg5597
      @ilikeyourcutg5597 Před 3 lety +23

      @@jvckiwai7715 OP is right tho

    • @jvckiwai7715
      @jvckiwai7715 Před 3 lety +48

      @@ilikeyourcutg5597 she's not tho, because everyone on tiktok who was over the age of 14 held her accountable and cancelled her, but her young followers are the ones who need to do it, but they still support her.

    • @plainjanex9970
      @plainjanex9970 Před 3 lety +54

      @@jvckiwai7715 Tik tok aside. What about on tv shows and interviews? Older women make advances to younger boys and it’s never seen as anything other than a joke. But once the genders are flipped, outrage ensues. It’s not just a problem with young fans, it’s a problem with society.

    • @jocelyncooper1738
      @jocelyncooper1738 Před 3 lety +32

      @@plainjanex9970 you can just look at the prison sentences given to female sexual predators vs male sexual predators, there’s a huge difference. Mary Kay Letourneau would have never seen the outside world again if she were a man.

  • @muggleintheupsidedown
    @muggleintheupsidedown Před 3 lety +4233

    What’s worse is he’s not only 13, but he legitimately looks 13. He doesn’t look older than he is, he has a legitimate baby face! She’s insane. She needs serious help.

    • @muggleintheupsidedown
      @muggleintheupsidedown Před 3 lety +525

      By the way, even if he looked older it would NOT be okay. I’m just trying to comment on how insanely young he looks, which makes it all the worse. It’s not like she can claim “he looks older,” or some other bullshit. He’s a baby😩

    • @graceless963
      @graceless963 Před 3 lety +127

      She needs to go to jail.

    • @Noahed_
      @Noahed_ Před 3 lety +126

      "Kissing is not sexual." My gosh, she's an idiot. If it's done erotically, it is.

    • @randomuserwitharandomname6183
      @randomuserwitharandomname6183 Před 3 lety +48

      @@Noahed_ She knew what she was doing.

    • @toad6919
      @toad6919 Před 3 lety +1

      Baby face😂

  • @mouselemurbutt
    @mouselemurbutt Před 3 měsíci +3

    my husband was in the position of the 13 yo boy. its breaking my heart because when i had to help him process what this boy is going to have to go through, it was heartbreaking. and it went on for years. i feel so terrible for that boy, and she sickens me.

  • @WobblesandBean
    @WobblesandBean Před rokem +17

    All this story proves is that children shouldn't be allowed on TikTok.

  • @WhinyB
    @WhinyB Před 3 lety +4141

    The age gap isn’t weird if they were older, but at thirteen that’s a kid, no way around it. Someone like this is going to get worse with time if she’s not stopped.

    • @jamesjennings4501
      @jamesjennings4501 Před 3 lety +179

      I heard an argument that it’s less the age gap and more of the percentage of the age like a 13 year old only has like 60% of the experienced life of a 19 year old but idk

    • @bjornthefellhanded5655
      @bjornthefellhanded5655 Před 3 lety +74

      It depends on how large the Age Gap is,if it’s 20 years or something like that then it is a bit weird but it(probably) shouldn’t cause any issues in the Relationship. Again,it depends on their Age and if they are both Of Age

    • @souleaterevans4589
      @souleaterevans4589 Před 3 lety +56

      ​@@jamesjennings4501 That logic makes me feel kinda weird. Like I get it and it does work here, but then a person of age dating someone older will be seen as the same as a situation like this. Cause it's still 60% of the experience, you feel?

    • @samanthapurdy2053
      @samanthapurdy2053 Před 3 lety +246

      The thing is predators usually fixate on a certain age or age range. So even people defending her now and saying the age gap wasn't that big... just keep watching that girl because she will get older and her boyfriends won't.

    • @EstherXHamilton
      @EstherXHamilton Před 3 lety +34

      @@samanthapurdy2053 Exactly! You're 100% right

  • @marianadaniella1462
    @marianadaniella1462 Před 3 lety +7695

    the amount of predators, especially young adult predators, on tiktok is disgusting. zoe, the lopez brothers, etc. these people are ADULTS and should be held accountable. this isn't a case of "i made a mistake, i'm young". this is a case of feeling untouchable simply because they possess a small amount of clout.

    • @bodaciousdoggo8971
      @bodaciousdoggo8971 Před 3 lety +258

      Because TikTok is full of kids. It’s like a wolf going to a sheep pen. There’s ton a impressionable children who they can turn into their fans and use to get what they want

    • @nicomar3506
      @nicomar3506 Před 3 lety +173

      I’m the same age as her and no way I would date someone who just got out of ELEMENTARY SCHOOL and say “oh I’m young, it was a mistake” when I’m in COLLEGE

    • @MrsWacdonals
      @MrsWacdonals Před 3 lety +24

      En unos cuantos años, youtube va a estar lleno de videos sobre tiktokers que resultaron ser abusadores, de los cuales ya sabíamos pero ignoramos debido a su edad, fama, etc. Ha pasado antes, va a seguir pasando y estoy harta de escuchar a violadores justificarse

    • @daksharawal3906
      @daksharawal3906 Před 3 lety +11

      Wait I knew about Tony but is Ondreaz one too?

    • @halfwen4575
      @halfwen4575 Před 3 lety +10

      @@daksharawal3906 looks like it, yep

  • @dewdot
    @dewdot Před rokem +3

    i went through a very similar situation when i was 13, a 19yo came on to me for several months, told me he loved me, etc, it is extremely manipulative, disgusting, and traumatizing to through and it is beyond disgusting and sad to see happing to another child. predators and grooming are unacceptable and its horrific to see someone so prevalent taking advantage of her supporters like this.

  • @cmp8206
    @cmp8206 Před rokem +7

    When you laughed and got delirious about the 7 years... I spit my milk out. I'm so glad I found ur channel.

  • @Dastiel4ever
    @Dastiel4ever Před 3 lety +1166

    I understand that everyone wants to focus on her relationship with the 13-year-old but we can't ignore the other signs in this video. 1) She kissed someone without their permission which would technically be sexual assault. 2) she tried to take off Cody's pants after he verbally told her no and tried to stop her at times also could constitute sexual assault/harassment. 3) the whole lying about her mom to gain sympathy.
    All of these are patterns of behavior and shows that she could easily abuse again.

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 Před 3 lety +12

      and there was a leaked video of her giving the victim a b job by the way of course it mysteriously was struck of the net after a few days HUMMMM

    • @andrewb6194
      @andrewb6194 Před 3 lety +8

      @@wilmagregg3131 is there any proof?
      (And if so, why hasn’t it been turned over to the proper authorities)

    • @andrewb6194
      @andrewb6194 Před 3 lety

      @delete channel you know, an article reporting on it? If it’s real, it’d blow up and garner tons of attention!

    • @andrewb6194
      @andrewb6194 Před 3 lety +1

      @delete channel before I tell you that, I need to know how old you are. If you’re under 18, I can’t tell you that!
      But you can always just look it up! Use a site like Urban Dictionary or something!

    • @yourmumlolol
      @yourmumlolol Před 3 lety +5

      @@wilmagregg3131 that's some pretty serious allegations you're making, do you have any proof of this video even existing?

  • @HiImRawr
    @HiImRawr Před 3 lety +4352

    dam I'm old, even children born after 2000 can be predators now.

    • @kateysneed3359
      @kateysneed3359 Před 3 lety +23

      same

    • @Re-bl5sr
      @Re-bl5sr Před 2 lety +91

      @@kateysneed3359 Admitting that you can be a predator too is definitely something you shouldn't be doing...

    • @shutup5466
      @shutup5466 Před 2 lety +10

      Even i can now and im 05

    • @anyashenoy756
      @anyashenoy756 Před 2 lety +322

      @@Re-bl5sr I feel like they are agreeing that they also feel old and shocked at how old people born post-2000s are.

    • @hastur-thekinginyellow8115
      @hastur-thekinginyellow8115 Před 2 lety +42

      I know the feeling man. The "these millennials" comments turned into "these zoomers" and I'm wondering where the time went. You know you're old when you're just now understanding what TikTok actually is and always before hand just use to view it as a platform for children (which I mean, it still pretty much is).

  • @zackattack32
    @zackattack32 Před rokem +9

    37:30 I love how she says “BUT” just like most predators say. It’s disgusting how hard she tries to make herself look good in the limelight. It’s absolutely awful how she got away with this for so long

  • @TigersandBearsOhMy
    @TigersandBearsOhMy Před rokem +5

    It is absolutely sick that she wasn't prosecuted for the corruption of a minor. If the shoe was on the other foot and it was a 19 year old man with a 13 year old little girl, man, he'd still be in jail. I used to babysit my little cousin and his friend. They were 7 years younger than me. The thought of me "developing feelings" for them makes me want to literally puke. This is disgusting. She is disgusting. Jeez, I actually feel sick even thinking about it.

  • @aniyaw.5215
    @aniyaw.5215 Před 3 lety +2583

    I feel like Zoe is saying well all we did was kiss that’s still a case. That is like putting a gun to someone’s head and making them pull the trigger that’s still murder. Kissing a 13 year old as a 19 year old still doesn’t make it any less than a predator.
    *When she was trash talking Charli a young girl who was younger than her just because this girl passed her petty self in followers*
    👏A 👏 13 👏 YEAR👏 OLD 👏 CANNOT 👏CONSENT

    • @starscream8989
      @starscream8989 Před 3 lety +14

      imma say bruh everytime between claps

    • @StJimmy-nc2cg
      @StJimmy-nc2cg Před 3 lety +7

      Agree with your statement, out of context though, love that machine gun kelly profile pic

    • @thexbigxgreen
      @thexbigxgreen Před 3 lety +49

      It's more like pulling a gun on someone, and instead of shooting them, you pistol whip them lol

    • @2600TC
      @2600TC Před 3 lety

      @@thexbigxgreen yes

    • @larajayne4934
      @larajayne4934 Před 3 lety +4

      Yep exactly!

  • @staceex0
    @staceex0 Před 3 lety +1818

    She thinks she didn’t groom the 13 year old because he “consented” to everything which is exactly how grooming works, made even worse by the denial and defensiveness. I hope she goes to jail

    • @doesthisIookinfected
      @doesthisIookinfected Před 3 lety +62

      Yeah, 13 year old brains aren't fully developed therefore they can't legally give consent even if they say it's ok.

    • @gn9962
      @gn9962 Před 3 lety +22

      i hope she does too but i don’t think she will bc she manipulated conner sm that he doesn’t even know what was wrong w their relationship and him and his mom said they wouldn’t press charges :/

    • @igloo3531
      @igloo3531 Před 3 lety +20

      A 13 year old's mind is not fully developed so they cannot give consent. Even if they say yes or okay or sure, its not consent. Isnt it illegal anyways that they did sexual things when one is underage and the other is an adult

    • @xplrrylan5676
      @xplrrylan5676 Před 3 lety +6

      exactly, but she already talk to the police clearly they aren't gonna put her in jail

    • @homosexualfrog3999
      @homosexualfrog3999 Před 3 lety +1

      @@xplrrylan5676 yea it’s dumb

  • @rabd3721
    @rabd3721 Před rokem +9

    Unfortunately, some people don't experience the mental and emotional growth needed to see themselves as adults. She still thinks of herself as "a little girl" and saw the 8th grade boy as someone the same age as her, emotionally. That's how a lot of the young predator cases happen. You see it a lot with female teachers especially. Young attractive college graduate teacher sees a "manly" 16 year old and... the rest is criminal history.

  • @ambrosiathames9505
    @ambrosiathames9505 Před 2 lety

    Been binging your videos while working. Thank you for the timestamp for the phone call; I've heard it before, but it's one of those things I don't want to hear twice.

  • @thexbigxgreen
    @thexbigxgreen Před 3 lety +1918

    The fact that she is a pretty white girl is a factor in her shirking controversy too. People are way less apt to judge an attractive person harshly, as well as the fact that there's that "Boys Club" mentality, where people think that the kid is lucky to snag an older, pretty girl.

    • @theone8602
      @theone8602 Před 3 lety +190

      I think her being a white women helps too. White women are so protected in society to be honest,hence why it's taking so long

    • @BarnieHanders
      @BarnieHanders Před 3 lety +47

      @@theone8602 Kinda racist?

    • @Sakuramoch1__
      @Sakuramoch1__ Před 3 lety +103

      You're totally right, its been proven that people generally tend to be less willing to speak or do anything against attractive and/or rich people

    • @frostyyy3762
      @frostyyy3762 Před 3 lety +12

      @@BarnieHanders I mean, yeah it is?

    • @kakyoinisticzommelier4693
      @kakyoinisticzommelier4693 Před 3 lety +201

      @@BarnieHanders lmao how is saying that white women have the privilege of being white to shield them from the repercussions of their bad behavior racist. racist is "white people should die for being white" not "white people are privileged because they run american society"

  • @awaister
    @awaister Před 2 lety +8428

    The fact that she has a history of forcing herself on other guys and not caring about their consent makes this whole situation with the 13 year old even more disgusting than it already was

    • @blazguzelj7880
      @blazguzelj7880 Před 2 lety +124

      Sickos in their earliest forms

    • @informitas0117
      @informitas0117 Před 2 lety +224

      It blows my mind she didn't face any consequences for this. I don't want to beat an old drum but if a jury heard this with the genders swapped I'm sure it would have been another tune. Just look at Cry, he did arguably less than this and was chased off the web.

    • @AdaptiveApeHybrid
      @AdaptiveApeHybrid Před 2 lety +22

      @@informitas0117 MaLe pRiViLeGe

    • @velasericousland2443
      @velasericousland2443 Před 2 lety +66

      @@informitas0117 Onision has never been in trouble.

    • @MelodyAceOwO
      @MelodyAceOwO Před 2 lety +16

      @@informitas0117 Chase hudson never got chase off the web???? He still has a platform.. this isnt about gender its about a Child abuser getting away because of a platform...

  • @mikaela2143
    @mikaela2143 Před rokem +6

    When I was 11 I was manipulated by a 16 year old guy. He said he'd caught feelings but it was wrong if he made me get into a relationship. Though manipulating me into sending photos because if I didn't then I didn't actually care about my "best friend" was completely fine? And then when I said I wanted to try a text roleplay he raped me in that. I never saw how bad it was at that time. He showed me horrible photos that an 11 year old shouldn't see
    I'm 16 now, I met someone I love back when I was 14. The relationship is currently 2 years old, my boyfriend is 18 at this time. I'd say it doesn't sound too bad since the consenting age is 16 here and I met him when he was 16. He has treated me wonderfully, treated me amazing, I've matured a lot over this time and I've been accepted completely by him. I can't say it'll last forever, but no one is born to be alone, and I believe there is someone out there for everyone
    About the weird 16 yr old I was manipulated by when I was 11, it's honestly a long story because a lot happened. However I don't have any contact with them anymore, I blocked them long ago

    • @mikaela2143
      @mikaela2143 Před rokem +4

      I will say though, after I blocked him realizing what was so wrong about it, he made an alter account and pretended to be someone completely different. I had no friends really, I was bullied and alone, and the person he pretended to be didn't prey on me, and I liked chatting with them because they never asked me for anything then. But I did know it was him, and when he was going too far with asking for pics, I told him that I knew it was him and I blocked him without another thought. It's unfortunate that I hadn't done it sooner

  • @tylerpendleton1980
    @tylerpendleton1980 Před rokem +5

    Love how Zoe's mom correlates best friends with kissing. Like "yes, i constantly kiss my best friends on the lips on the regular ya know just a casual make out session with the bros ya know?"

    • @ankyo2763
      @ankyo2763 Před rokem

      It's with the homies so it's okay

  • @strawbyedits
    @strawbyedits Před 3 lety +1880

    “We didn’t do anything besides kiss.” HE. WAS. THIRTEEN.

  • @floof_croissant
    @floof_croissant Před 3 lety +1973

    Her mom says “you guys are coming after her cuz she’s zOe LaVeRnE”
    No, we’re coming after her because she kissed an underage boy and doesn’t see anything wrong with it. Idgaf who you are. That’s wrong and you should be punished

    • @theblackswan723
      @theblackswan723 Před 3 lety +48

      Maybe she should have Zoe be taken to a “more strict” parents, since Zoe’s mom is currently an idiot.

    • @kinnyb
      @kinnyb Před 3 lety +23

      Let’s not forget assaulting Cody 😐

    • @theycallmet3061
      @theycallmet3061 Před 3 lety +24

      I'm not a mother and I'm against beating children but if my kid turned out to be a pedophile I'd probably lose it.

    • @saigie3908
      @saigie3908 Před 3 lety +11

      Plus she’s an *influencer* who has a bunch of ppl following her. She needs to be a good role model

    • @wandaeneryx
      @wandaeneryx Před 3 lety

      FACTS

  • @michaelparrish6093
    @michaelparrish6093 Před rokem +6

    "You're probably like 5 so let me say something real quick... wanna get dinner some time?" - Zoey whatever-her-last-name-is

  • @NotSabrina_Playz
    @NotSabrina_Playz Před 5 měsíci +1

    I just want to thank you for putting the tw for the argument clip bc I would go into panic because of my anxiety from my past!!

  • @ajbuckner1765
    @ajbuckner1765 Před 3 lety +462

    i don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're a young highschooler, or god forbid, in middle school; *stop talking to that college student.* they don't love you. they are an ADULT, they are NOT your soulmate. they are twisting your idea of what a relationship is. they are using you, taking advantage of you. you deserve so much better.

    • @sarahsalimi479
      @sarahsalimi479 Před 3 lety +3

      Im almost done with college and my bf is in highschool... We're the same age lmfao

    • @daddytm7786
      @daddytm7786 Před 3 lety +22

      @E honestly, I’d say the age difference is quite questionable in my opinion, especially because you met when you were so young... be mindful, careful and please stay safe :)

    • @ajbuckner1765
      @ajbuckner1765 Před 3 lety +26

      @E yes, the age difference is weird. there is no reason an 18 year old should be attracted to, or want to date, a 15 year old, unless something suspicious is going on. being taken advantage of doesn’t always have to be sexual, so just be careful. look for the signs of any sort of manipulation, gas lighting, etc. stay safe

    • @ajbuckner1765
      @ajbuckner1765 Před 3 lety +10

      @@sarahsalimi479 i don’t really understand how you guys can be the same age, but that’s not my business. my point here though, was to emphasize the age difference. most of the time, college students have a significant age gap between young high schoolers (usually 3-4 years). this age difference would be okay if both parties were adults, but that’s not the case most of time when a college student starts dating a young high schooler (freshman or sophomore). my point is that anyone over the age of 18 has no business being attracted to minors.

    • @moononthewindynight27
      @moononthewindynight27 Před 3 lety +4

      @E Honestly, 2-3 years of gap is normal. If he was older it would be concerning tho because someone of that age isn't remotely on a similar level as a teen and is definitely trying to find "easy pray" 🤢

  • @reksew987
    @reksew987 Před 2 lety +3468

    Hearing the boy apologize is truly disturbing. He was taken advantage of yet he still seems to have received enough heat that he felt he needed to apologize for something. People are truly deplorable.

    • @readyforyourliez3054
      @readyforyourliez3054 Před rokem +175

      Victim blaming at it‘s finest

    • @emma_nutella58
      @emma_nutella58 Před rokem +80

      This issue hits close to home for me because my brother was a victim of this and years later we still feel the effect of the abuse

    • @jakob1827
      @jakob1827 Před rokem +11

      Mainly because he is a guy soooo

    • @kells9k
      @kells9k Před rokem +18

      Watching that was sad af. Seriously the most "real" part of this video.

    • @caseyp3447
      @caseyp3447 Před rokem +42

      @@jakob1827 that doesn't make it ok, underage is underage! A groomer is a groom no matter their gender.

  • @Fuge0910
    @Fuge0910 Před rokem +2

    nice Game Theory reference, but then ngl, when I found your video, your voice is really like Matpad, but covering influencer drama aspect XD

  • @jacobserr234
    @jacobserr234 Před rokem

    the squidward "im going insane" summed up this video so well lmao, im glad i found your channel you are so good at what ya do

  • @RogieWoah
    @RogieWoah Před 3 lety +1761

    The fact that people can get away with stuff like this because of their fame is a big problem on the internet.

    • @---nobody---
      @---nobody--- Před 3 lety +44

      It's a big problem off the internet too. The power money and notoriety has is insane.

    • @cyko5495
      @cyko5495 Před 3 lety +14

      its more bc shes a female and no one really cares aabout women predators lol

    • @esmeralda9712
      @esmeralda9712 Před 3 lety +16

      @@cyko5495 yes I completely agree, but it’s also fame because.....the lopez brothers

    • @edelleaa
      @edelleaa Před 3 lety +17

      famous and mostly rich people have been getting away with anything for centuries, that's sadly just the type of world we live in

    • @neropunkt
      @neropunkt Před 3 lety +1

      cuz that never happened before the internet, right?

  • @Sticky1254
    @Sticky1254 Před 3 lety +1403

    her mom looks like she would blame the restaurant for her kid shitting on the floor

    • @IvanaSantini
      @IvanaSantini Před 2 lety +8

      I think it's her adoptive mother but they look a like anyway which is strange.

    • @jwithington9347
      @jwithington9347 Před 2 lety +9

      Unfortunately came across alot of mothers like that

    • @Ali-kb8gr
      @Ali-kb8gr Před 2 lety +3

      🤣 bahaha

    • @glovergayles187
      @glovergayles187 Před 2 lety +2

      😂 😂 😂

    • @samanthakennedy7937
      @samanthakennedy7937 Před 2 lety +12

      Probably is the precise reason why this little girl and millions other young people in this day and age are repeatedly involved in situations such as she is currently being called out for!! More often than not in fact, people who behave and or end up committing crimes such as this have been or are being subjected to some form of an abusive, or neglectful environment, and even more so it is commonly an adult on their life that is supoosed to be trusted, such as a parent, guardian, family member, etc.

  • @lastmazegaming
    @lastmazegaming Před rokem +6

    If the genders were reversed, the man doing the grooming would have lost everything socially and financially within 24 hours.

  • @heyfreakazoid8175
    @heyfreakazoid8175 Před rokem +16

    The Zoe Laverne shit was INSANE! I can't believe some people tried to excuse her. I was groomed at 14 by a19 year old, not I'm 19 going on 20 and it's finally hitting me about how fucked up it was. Obviously the kid didn't say he was being groomed because it was still happening! I really feel for that kid.

  • @aethcat
    @aethcat Před 3 lety +6308

    i’m so glad that you are talking about zoe. everyone needs to know about this.

    • @aethcat
      @aethcat Před 3 lety +8

      @Kittle Corner ah, thanks. :>

    • @raulphilipgoco403
      @raulphilipgoco403 Před 3 lety +28

      I Really *h o p e* she goes to prison.

    • @PridelessChickz
      @PridelessChickz Před 3 lety +2

      The Queen of England and the Pope were found *GUILTY in court* for child sacrifice in the Ninth Circle Society. Pass it on.

    • @veggie_roll5224
      @veggie_roll5224 Před 3 lety +24

      @@PridelessChickz Can I have some articles, documents, etc. on this matter? And it's pretty well known the royal family was in on some child trafficking stuff. Thanks!

    • @RodrigoLRDR
      @RodrigoLRDR Před 3 lety +1

      @@PridelessChickz i know right

  • @AlwaysM0ndayy
    @AlwaysM0ndayy Před 2 lety +1700

    I think because influencers like Zoe Laverne and James Charles became famous so young, they're stuck in some sort of arrested development. They act like 15 year olds despite being closer to 20 and chase after young teens as if they were still that age. It's very unsettling.

    • @MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis
      @MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis Před rokem +103

      I think it’s because the truth is that if they grew up and acted their age, they would see how foolish and immature they’ve been on social media this whole time. They would have to change, and they can’t stop the grift

    • @CJ-cz3hv
      @CJ-cz3hv Před rokem +37

      Its like they are still salty from being a nobody in highschool and chase that

    • @lowkeylokii4205
      @lowkeylokii4205 Před rokem +66

      It's not uncommon. It's a real thing is psychology. When you're still development life changing events and esp trauma will literally mentally trap you at that age. It's why Justin Bieber and many others or just little shits

    • @bethancameron6283
      @bethancameron6283 Před rokem +19

      I honestly think it's cause the only people who care about who they are are young and influencers end up taking advantage of that

    • @deenatodd9585
      @deenatodd9585 Před rokem +9

      I agree but also, I was MUCH younger than 15 when I understood grooming a child was unacceptable

  • @scifriskyxy583
    @scifriskyxy583 Před rokem +5

    How- Just how nobody finds this disgusting? ,the fact nobody finds this disgusting disturbs me more than the 13 n 19 yr old groomer shit blatantly happening

  • @yellowmizz02
    @yellowmizz02 Před rokem

    Your outro music is my favorite thing in the world and i LOVE these videos omg

  • @carolyn9034
    @carolyn9034 Před 3 lety +948

    “Kissing just happens,it’s not illegal” WHAT lmao no it does not. I’m 19, my brother is thirteen, i’ve been around his friends and, believe it or not, i have never once just happened to kiss one of them. So weird and gross and wrong. This entire situation is deeply disturbing.

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Před 3 lety +61

      but you see unlike zoe you're not..........let's say a schmedoshmile.

    • @urbanehawk6946
      @urbanehawk6946 Před 3 lety +30

      Because you're not the 'face of tik tok'

    • @bonesmalone7826
      @bonesmalone7826 Před 3 lety +8

      Also, in this context, it's illegal

    • @valeriarossini543
      @valeriarossini543 Před 3 lety +7

      literally SAME, I can't fathom finding kids who are *cleary* so much younger and less mature than u “attractive”...

    • @Devon.with.an.i
      @Devon.with.an.i Před 3 lety +1

      @@valeriarossini543 they haven’t even physically matured yet 😂😂😂

  • @habichiblah7534
    @habichiblah7534 Před 3 lety +2820

    I've never heard of any of these people, which tells me I'm doing something right.

  • @barackobama7728
    @barackobama7728 Před rokem

    the production value and editing on these ❤

  • @sambenson7229
    @sambenson7229 Před rokem +5

    If the male and female were reversed this would be a hellscape of cancellation... deservedly so...

  • @lilysaenz5600
    @lilysaenz5600 Před 3 lety +1380

    imagined being privileged enough that you can get away with child grooming that was CAUGHT ON CAMERA

    • @jesuschrist6688
      @jesuschrist6688 Před 3 lety +34

      Couldn’t have said it better

    • @TheCreeperCyborg
      @TheCreeperCyborg Před 3 lety +54

      Literally imagine being so privilaged you cry about not being at the top of a website
      Fuck man some of us have to worry if we can afford to eat

    • @libertyprime619
      @libertyprime619 Před 3 lety +6

      If this was a dude he would be shamed and have so much backlash

    • @yshent8487
      @yshent8487 Před 3 lety +15

      @@libertyprime619 She literally gets bullied lmao what💀 and people call her out all the time. Look at men like Tony Lopez, Ansel Elgort, Joshua Bassett, even Justin Bieber etc. who have proof after proof that they harrassed fans and they still have a platform and fans who support them and literally don’t care. Y’all acting like women are privileged and men are oppressed, NAH. The reason why Zoe still has a platform is bc she herself hasn’t left and bc she’s rich and has 10 year old fans who still like her.

    • @ArtisanAsteroid
      @ArtisanAsteroid Před 3 lety

      @@yshent8487 You are right about that. I’d like to believe that the more fame you have the more your bad actions matter,but it’s sadly the opposite.

  • @TheCherri306
    @TheCherri306 Před 3 lety +1274

    You can’t Mr. Brightside your way out of this. “It was only a kiss, it was only a kiss...”

  • @vedantlalit7018
    @vedantlalit7018 Před rokem

    Honestly appreciate the long form content, thnx bro.

  • @jewels2896
    @jewels2896 Před rokem +4

    Hearing the kid made an apology video is horrific. Like he’s literally apologizing for being groomed. Poor kid

  • @kittybass808
    @kittybass808 Před 3 lety +655

    these children are getting too famous too quickly. not an excuse for her behaviour. just a thought in general. child stars always have massive struggles later in life..

    • @softestshade7813
      @softestshade7813 Před 3 lety +64

      Child stars shouldn't be a thing. Like child actors sure but people making a brand out of a kid and focusing it on them always leads to trouble

    • @souleaterevans4589
      @souleaterevans4589 Před 3 lety +12

      @Insert Name Here True. Seems her mother participates in her online escapades, though. Someone better call her grandparents lol

    • @Nikki-jn3ud
      @Nikki-jn3ud Před 3 lety +5

      @Insert Name Here a lot of these parents only see money signs and don't care about how it affects their child

  • @siannanoelle3426
    @siannanoelle3426 Před 3 lety +1559

    I don’t understand how a 19 year old women can even catch feelings for a 13 year old child?? I’m 18 and I can’t even imagine catching feelings for a 16 year old

    • @millsmami
      @millsmami Před 3 lety +111

      Right. My son is about to turn 17 and he thinks anyone under 16 is too young for him..lol

    • @siannanoelle3426
      @siannanoelle3426 Před 3 lety +91

      Million Dollar Mills it’s so bullshit that if it was a 19 yr old male with a 13 yr old female he would be in jail or something and everyone’s just letting her get away with it

    • @millsmami
      @millsmami Před 3 lety +21

      @@siannanoelle3426 That's the world we live in, sadly.

    • @Noahed_
      @Noahed_ Před 3 lety +59

      @@millsmami I also don't understand her argument of "kissing isn't s*xual." What type of kissing? A mother with her child or two love birds exchanging spit? The video is clear proof she did it for her own pleasure.

    • @millsmami
      @millsmami Před 3 lety +17

      @@Noahed_ Right. She's either in denial or doesn't want to publicly admit that it was what it was with him. The fact that she's embarrassed/ashamed of it is enough proof that she knows it's wrong.

  • @Nodsbane
    @Nodsbane Před rokem +10

    It sucks that a big portion of our world thinks that someone like her is worth looking up to. Lots of terrible people end up getting famous or in positions of power. I think it's because a lot of people are trash people and so they see themselves in this kind of person.