Happened twice. Once in Makedonia to try and break a phalanx, once in Britain to encourage a forced landing. Though in the latter case, the Aquilifer went with it. :P
Sometimes the Roman centurions gave orders to the signifer to throw the legion's eagle in the midst of the enemies so as to stimulate the legionaries to recover it because losing the eagle was considered a serious matter for a legion. So, it's not entirely unnatural to see the eagle thrown that way. Sorry for the translation but I'm not English Anyway, also your version is funny xD
I sadly dont' have a source, but I once heard that during the battle that coined the term Pyrrhic Victory, one Centurion grabbed the eagle and flung it into the enemy phalanx and yelled for his men to go get it. They then started throwing themselves hard head on into a fricken phalanx trying to get it. Well, there's a reason it ended up leading to Pyrrhus saying "another victory like that and we will lose the war"
There's no bloody limit to Republican period Roman foolhardiness. Couldn't find it myself, but I guess that's the Battle of Asculum? Not sure about the chucking the eagle onto a phalanx bit, but certainly there's this commander sacrificing himself *in devotio* . But seeing as that's how early Romans go, I would certainly expect it out of them. Troops aren't messing when they're addressing their commander, greeting with 'Brave Romans, to a man!' :p
This indeed happened during the Battle of Pydna (168 BC), between the Romans and the Macedonians. It was one of the last battles in which the Hellenic phalanx opposed legionaries. At the beginning of battle the Romans were completely unsuccessful in their attempts to break through the phalangites. According to Plutarch, one of the centurions "rent his garments in impotent fury" and another "seized his unit's standard and threw it into the enemy ranks, telling his men to get it back". They inflicted some casualties, but eventually were unable to break through the wall of pikes. The Romans then used tactical retreat to lure the phalanx into uneven ground where it lost its cohesion.
In Caesar's De Bello Gallico, an aquilifer charged into the Britain hordes telling them to come with him if they didn't want to lose the eagle. Losing the aquila was a great dishonor and, apparently, good motivation for a legion.
An Eagle is of utmost importance to keep- anyone who loses their Eagle is to live in shame until it is recovered. An officer might throw an Eagle into a mass of enemies to inspire acts of bravery among their men. The Romans were neat, and really, really weird.
I'm pretty sure the idea behind the thrown eagle here is to inspire the Legion to fight harder to reclaim it, as others have pointed out, as if they fail, it is so catastrophic a dishonour that all of their lives are effectively forfeit; that Centurion is effectively forcing his men to fight as if they are already dead and hold nothing back, because if they fail to break through they *effectively are*.
KassKouille ! He didn't want to have a fun. It's a tradition to throw flag into enemies, than romans were trying to turn it back killing everyone on their way. It was a shame, when romans couldn't back their eagle.
This in fact happened in 168 BC, during the Battle of Pydna. The eagle was, however, thrown into the enemy ranks by a centurion, who wanted to motivate his men to fight harder and break through the enemy phalanx :)
@@tl8211 He didn't throw, he said that the rest were betraying the Eagle because they don't want to disembark the ship, then he jumped to the shore with the eagle encouraging others as well.
Historical trivia for you guys - pretty sure that was a centurion of Caesar's 10th legion that hurled the imperial eagle between the opposing lines and said 'go and defend it!'. Now, with the legions, losing the Imperial Eagle to the enemy was the ultimate disgrace of a Legion, so you can imagine how hard they fought that day.
They didn't. No evidence of them being destroyed in Scotland exists... it is a fabrication. My comment was more aimed at the fact some idiot threw the aquila
No historical evidence exists of their destruction in Scotland, and there have even been discovered traces of their presence on the western frontier sometime later, it is likely they were disbanded.
Legionary : *Sir ! We're ambush by the Britonnians ! There are too many of them, what are we gonna do ??* Centurio : throw the standard at the barbarians* *Oh right boys foward ! Push them back ! Bring back our Aquila for the glory of Rome ! DOOO IT !!* the Legion : .... -.-' Centurio : *Well... at least I tried...* "slaughter" *And that, Marcus Flavius Aquila, is how the LEGIO IX HISPANA lost the Eagle... Now go and get it back!*
Unfortunately, rtw2 ost is much weaker than otiginal rtw's. It is not bad, but actually there are no true great tracks. I think it is lack of drams. Just compare with Warrior Match of rtw.
In RTW I can personally only think of Army of Drums as a decent battle track - the rest indeed just follow one monotonous sound font per track. (I do like Jeff's work on M2TW though, no questions about it) Rome 2, well... yes, most of the OST wasn't stellar, but pieces like this, Brave Romans and one of the Hellenic battle tracks definitely are a league above. Beddow's tracks on Attila though...
Throw the eagle to the enemy, forcing legionnaires to cut their way through enemy lines to reclaim it.
What a brilliant plan!
Happened twice. Once in Makedonia to try and break a phalanx, once in Britain to encourage a forced landing. Though in the latter case, the Aquilifer went with it. :P
@@DarkRaven4649 Also in the siege of Jerusalem and Alesia
If you love high casualties within your own ranks then yes, absolutely brilliant!
LEGIONARIES
@@reddeaddude2187 You do know that happened more than twice with great success right?
banner holder : YES LETS THROW THE EAGLE !
The Commander of the legion: SO YOU HAVE CHOSEN DECIMATION
Sometimes the Roman centurions gave orders to the signifer to throw the legion's eagle in the midst of the enemies so as to stimulate the legionaries to recover it because losing the eagle was considered a serious matter for a legion.
So, it's not entirely unnatural to see the eagle thrown that way.
Sorry for the translation but I'm not English
Anyway, also your version is funny xD
@@aurelianoii5525 Thats acctually very informative and interesting. I didn't knew that! Thanks for sharing it with me!! ❤️
@@aurelianoii5525 May I know where did you read the Makedon part please? I am really interested.
@@GreekWarDog That happened more than twice with great success
Yeah, basically if you the enemy saw a Roman Legion decided to throw their eagle standard in your position, better run away.
Yeet that eagle
Into the enemy ranks to leave no other honourable option than to retrieve it via the sword
The definition of I'm out of ammo but not out of options.
SERVIVS? SERVIVS, WHAT THE FVCK, MAN?
PARDON CAPITIS, VETERIS REFLEXO!
FVCK !
I sadly dont' have a source, but I once heard that during the battle that coined the term Pyrrhic Victory, one Centurion grabbed the eagle and flung it into the enemy phalanx and yelled for his men to go get it. They then started throwing themselves hard head on into a fricken phalanx trying to get it.
Well, there's a reason it ended up leading to Pyrrhus saying "another victory like that and we will lose the war"
There's no bloody limit to Republican period Roman foolhardiness. Couldn't find it myself, but I guess that's the Battle of Asculum? Not sure about the chucking the eagle onto a phalanx bit, but certainly there's this commander sacrificing himself *in devotio* . But seeing as that's how early Romans go, I would certainly expect it out of them.
Troops aren't messing when they're addressing their commander, greeting with 'Brave Romans, to a man!' :p
This indeed happened during the Battle of Pydna (168 BC), between the Romans and the Macedonians. It was one of the last battles in which the Hellenic phalanx opposed legionaries. At the beginning of battle the Romans were completely unsuccessful in their attempts to break through the phalangites. According to Plutarch, one of the centurions "rent his garments in impotent fury" and another "seized his unit's standard and threw it into the enemy ranks, telling his men to get it back". They inflicted some casualties, but eventually were unable to break through the wall of pikes. The Romans then used tactical retreat to lure the phalanx into uneven ground where it lost its cohesion.
Okay, that is some 40k tier fuckery there.
I think this is exactly what is shown on the screenshot, it looks like exactly the centurion is throwing the standard.
In Caesar's De Bello Gallico, an aquilifer charged into the Britain hordes telling them to come with him if they didn't want to lose the eagle. Losing the aquila was a great dishonor and, apparently, good motivation for a legion.
Th.. They threw the flag? Hahaha!
The roman equivalent of "when you run out of bullets, the gun becomes the bullet"
to encourage them to recover it!
An Eagle is of utmost importance to keep- anyone who loses their Eagle is to live in shame until it is recovered. An officer might throw an Eagle into a mass of enemies to inspire acts of bravery among their men.
The Romans were neat, and really, really weird.
ThatCamel104 Ils sont fous ses romains ! (Frenchies will understand ;-))
a frenchie here can understand :)
That one enemy warrior whose seen this happen before. “Throw it back THROW IT BACK!”
Imagine 2 legions fighing eachother and they start to trow eagles at eachother 😂
I'm pretty sure the idea behind the thrown eagle here is to inspire the Legion to fight harder to reclaim it, as others have pointed out, as if they fail, it is so catastrophic a dishonour that all of their lives are effectively forfeit; that Centurion is effectively forcing his men to fight as if they are already dead and hold nothing back, because if they fail to break through they *effectively are*.
HUA!
Bro, they'll just get decimated and fired in disgrace, destroying the legion along the way if they don't get the eagle back.
1:28 - When you finally break through the mass of ambushing barbarians surrounding your legion and their whole army starts to rout in panic... :'-)
Andras Szabo when you have ten stacks of barbarians attacking Rome and your garrison and the army you have there hold them back against all odds
@@twilightparanormalresearch186 and you actually do this successfully
I did that except a 2 barbarian armies invading a costal town and they got routed www
Leap, fellow soldiers,
unless you wish to betray your eagle to the enemy!
centurion: "vexilarius! motivate our men!"
vexilarius: "aye sir!" *chucks banner*
legionaries: *go on a rampage to get the banner back*
That guy who held the flag just wanted to have fun like everyone . People say he killed 3 soldiers by doin' this XD
KassKouille !
He didn't want to have a fun. It's a tradition to throw flag into enemies, than romans were trying to turn it back killing everyone on their way. It was a shame, when romans couldn't back their eagle.
hahaha if the enemy gets that eagle that legion will face shame of legendary proportions
Naaah don't worry, Titus and Lucius will be there to go get it back :D
THIRTEEEEEEEEN!
@@MEUAR CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!
legiondary*
The way the main theme is reprised into this is absolutely amazing.
1:27 - You'll thank me later.
*VIGOROUS WAR HORNS*
Thank you
You idiot i passed best part because of you
Oh boy, the vexilarius is so dead for this blasphemy.
This in fact happened in 168 BC, during the Battle of Pydna. The eagle was, however, thrown into the enemy ranks by a centurion, who wanted to motivate his men to fight harder and break through the enemy phalanx :)
It happened once more during the Punic Wars I believe when the guy bearing the eagle jumped forward to shame others if they don't do the same.
He is encouraging them to go after the eagle
@@tl8211
He didn't throw, he said that the rest were betraying the Eagle because they don't want to disembark the ship, then he jumped to the shore with the eagle encouraging others as well.
@@artinaam It also happened during the siege of Jerusalem, playing fetch is a powerful moral boost
1:28-1:45 = Epic glory
*Germanic* “They are throwing their stupid banner? HA! WONT HELP THEM MUCH!”
*Roman* “STFU WE RAN OUT OF PILAS!”
He throws the symbol of legion that he must protect from everything
Eren Kenar hey gotta inspire the troops somehow🤷♂️
The sound you hear when you don't pay these guys enough
Damn I didnt realize they actually did the throw the eagle move in-game
0:54 LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Historical trivia for you guys - pretty sure that was a centurion of Caesar's 10th legion that hurled the imperial eagle between the opposing lines and said 'go and defend it!'. Now, with the legions, losing the Imperial Eagle to the enemy was the ultimate disgrace of a Legion, so you can imagine how hard they fought that day.
Throw the Eagle of Legion to ground towards of enemy?R U kidding me? :-D :-D :-D :-D
Then tell the men "Go fetch" and watch as the enemy runs in terror. Great tactic.
Did they just Yeet the eagles banner ?
RIP LEG IX
indeed, they perished in the scottish highlands, traces of them were never found again
They didn't. No evidence of them being destroyed in Scotland exists... it is a fabrication. My comment was more aimed at the fact some idiot threw the aquila
If they weren't lost in scotland, it would be common knowledge instead
No historical evidence exists of their destruction in Scotland, and there have even been discovered traces of their presence on the western frontier sometime later, it is likely they were disbanded.
The Praetorian Guard are actually throwing their Emperor!
What
well, considering they're not stabbing him, that's an improvement
RIP roman eagle
"Legionnaires, do you see this Eagle Standard?"
"Aye sir!"
"Fetch and kill any enemy trying to stop you!"
"AYE SIR!"
1:28 When you dominate the world in risk
Oy vey, my standard
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@@Oxide-Actual the local jew fears the roman chad
You threw it, they pay for it. Decimation time.
Legionary : *Sir ! We're ambush by the Britonnians ! There are too many of them, what are we gonna do ??*
Centurio : throw the standard at the barbarians* *Oh right boys foward ! Push them back ! Bring back our Aquila for the glory of Rome ! DOOO IT !!*
the Legion : .... -.-'
Centurio : *Well... at least I tried...*
"slaughter"
*And that, Marcus Flavius Aquila, is how the LEGIO IX HISPANA lost the Eagle... Now go and get it back!*
Throwing the Aquilae like a pilla? ...
Someone is going to pay dearly for this.
the song of having 2 pikemen defending against an army of one million spearmen in pijamas
The one who threw the Eagle....CRUCIFY HIM THIS INSTANT
- Take the FIRST cohort and get the eagle back this instant or be crucified this instant, you stupid cunt of an aquilifer!
- ROMA INVICTA!
fyi it was a motivation to "fetch that standard or we ain't going home alive"
0:46 super underrated
1:27 when you hear your mom coming home and the chicken is still in the refrigerator 😂
That Eagle Standard better have impaled someone, a barbarian hopefully.
1:28 the definitive roman theme
Legions.... fetch!
That picture is like at pydna where a mercenary centurion throw his symbol into the phalanx of Perseus to bye the legions time
Romans ready for battle
Juptier gives us strength
Mars aid us
Form tustudo
ROMA!!!
GASTATI!
TRIARII!
Riders at thr double!
Holy shit he just threw the Aquila. that is one sure way to die if the barbarians dont get you post battle.
It’s a way to motivate the troops to fight tooth and nail to get that back. It inspired morale.
Thats how the ninth spanish legion lost his eagle.
Our men is running from battlefield, SHAMEFUR DISPRAY
*Enemy soldier catches the banner*
Enemy soldier: “Oh cool!…. Oh f##k…”
they BETTER get that aquila
A horse we love blood!!
Our horses love blood
RİDERS AT THE DOUBLE!!
WE FACE BRITONS
carrot stick trick
"yeetus"
Yeet the peep
Eagle fly
SVPRA TERRAM BRITANNORVM VOLAT AQVILA LEGIONVM
1:22
Varus , give me back my legions
Similiar with Hearts of Iron 2 - War
funny pic :)
привет с пшиграници
Chucking the eagle standard? Shame! Shame!!
Unfortunately, rtw2 ost is much weaker than otiginal rtw's. It is not bad, but actually there are no true great tracks. I think it is lack of drams. Just compare with Warrior Match of rtw.
It's also completely devoid of one melody drawing through the whole song.
In RTW I can personally only think of Army of Drums as a decent battle track - the rest indeed just follow one monotonous sound font per track. (I do like Jeff's work on M2TW though, no questions about it)
Rome 2, well... yes, most of the OST wasn't stellar, but pieces like this, Brave Romans and one of the Hellenic battle tracks definitely are a league above.
Beddow's tracks on Attila though...
Haters everywhere, as aways
@@Volcano4981 Attila's tracks are absolutely great