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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety +35

    Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com
    Big thank you to you guys for watching, and big thanks to Ardun for helping with this video. Got Ideas for more videos? Comment them below and we'll see what we can do.

    • @vuktonic6281
      @vuktonic6281 Před 2 lety +2

      Try mig29 over Serbia during NATO offensive in 1999, against f16

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Před 2 lety +2

      F-22 VS Ten North Korean MIG-29's BVR!👍
      You destroyed Six North Korean MIG-29's in The F-16!
      Longshot destroyed Eight North Korean MIG-29's in The F-15!
      Lol next logical fight ;)

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Před 2 lety +7

      8:44 lmao wtf he must have been so mad to have done that, cheater!😂🤣

    • @MaticJ29
      @MaticJ29 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Anarchy_420 even the kindest dogs bite when provoked! xD

    • @fawadhaq6607
      @fawadhaq6607 Před 2 lety +1

      Reverse the roles in next fight

  • @roguesnipergaming-dylanses8714

    GS: He can't use fox 2s so I'll nose counter.
    Opponent: And I took that personally.

  • @lancet.346
    @lancet.346 Před 2 lety +352

    Absolutely lost it at the "my name if Jeff" insert. This channel is just brilliant.

  • @MaticJ29
    @MaticJ29 Před 2 lety +262

    The part where you annoyed him so much that he shot a FOX-2 was hilarious!

  • @baomao7243
    @baomao7243 Před 2 lety +143

    GS: It’s an all guns fight …
    JF: That’s not what i heard 😳

  • @shrugs3233
    @shrugs3233 Před 2 lety +49

    The f-16s gun is so satisfying, you pull the trigger and you don't see anything until they just light up.

    • @The_Original_Brad_Miller
      @The_Original_Brad_Miller Před 2 lety

      @Garoni will save it And I'm just the opposite. I enjoy the tracers especially when you're in a hard turn and they are arcing out there hard, Takes all kinds I guess. 😁

  • @aarontheaviationaddict3643
    @aarontheaviationaddict3643 Před 2 lety +167

    JF-17 has had enough disrespect from you in the third round.😂

    • @Kev376
      @Kev376 Před 2 lety

      I know GS has become a machine that mass produces disrespect.

  • @mower2008
    @mower2008 Před 2 lety +53

    8:44 "Screw you, GS! Here's a nice Fox 2 up your tailpipe!" -JF-17 pilot
    😂😂😂

    • @sol2wit781
      @sol2wit781 Před 2 měsíci

      The JF-17 is another jet that enemies should not be messing with

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro Před 2 lety +20

    GS: " I'm going to nose counter and frustrate him."
    JF-17 Pilot: "Yeah, cool story bro, FOX 2!!!"

  • @blahblahblah23424
    @blahblahblah23424 Před 2 lety +20

    lmao "enough of this shit, fox-2"

  • @yaseen157
    @yaseen157 Před 2 lety +33

    Man that one circle fight with the nose counters had some excellent (aesthetically pleasing) flying/manoeuvring

    • @Kev376
      @Kev376 Před 2 lety

      Yeah GS is definitely improving

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Před rokem

      The F-16 is no slouch in the 1C

  • @RamiJatuk69
    @RamiJatuk69 Před 2 lety +15

    It's always the man behind the machine.
    The results would've been different if GS was flying the JF-17 Thunder.

  • @profo4544
    @profo4544 Před 2 lety +12

    The JF-17 has more modern avionics in some regards, however, you pay forwhat you get in the F-16. Block 2 JF-17 is an 8g, Mach 1.6 jet while the F-16C Block 52 is a 9g Mach 2.1 jet. The F-16 boasts a MUCH better thrust to weight, sustained turn rate, and payload capacity. The JF-17 block 3 will put it on par with the F-16, while at a much lower cost. It is also important to note that F-16s are easily upgraded with the latest gadgets like AESA radars and IRST. Just because the F-16 is old doesn't mean it's outdated. They are both 4th gen airplanes being upgraded to 4+ gen.

  • @haseebwaqar8980
    @haseebwaqar8980 Před 2 lety +35

    I want to see same fight with you piloting JF-17.

  • @Waltzyy
    @Waltzyy Před 2 lety +40

    Holy hell that move around 3:56 was pretty nutty.

    • @RaderizDorret
      @RaderizDorret Před 2 lety +14

      GS was on the wrong end of a similar maneuver when he took the JF-17 against an F-15. It shows up in his Moments of Death Compilations, complete with goat scream as it points its nose and shoots him in the face.

    • @cipher8971
      @cipher8971 Před 2 lety +3

      @@RaderizDorret I was thinking the same exact maneuver. GS learned from his mistakes👌🏾🤌🏾

    • @Shadowboost
      @Shadowboost Před 2 lety +7

      Old school WW2 post stall rudder turn

    • @zachboyd4749
      @zachboyd4749 Před 2 lety

      @@RaderizDorret
      I said in that vid it looked like something out of The Sky Crawlers, and I still stand by it!

  • @meinhaj
    @meinhaj Před 2 lety +25

    Thanks so much GS, I remember I requested this from you and you are kind enough to oblige. Really wanted to see what these two planes could do against each other, as the JF-17 was designed based on the F-16 but without an equivalent powerful engine available they had to improvise.

  • @shoaib3036
    @shoaib3036 Před 2 lety +88

    I am Pakistani I have some friends in PAF. They say Maintenance and reliability of F16 is unmatched although they admit that Jf 17 latest block 3 matches F 16MLUs performance in terms of avionics and electronics. Nice to see your video.
    Are these both aircraft in the same markings???

    • @retardmoguss
      @retardmoguss Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah they are in the same markings of PAF

    • @sourabhgupta4853
      @sourabhgupta4853 Před 2 lety +21

      PAF is using older version of F-16s and even latest block 3 model of jf-17 can not replace f-16 as they are superior in almost all aspects.

    • @retardmoguss
      @retardmoguss Před 2 lety +26

      @@sourabhgupta4853 I think they have some F-16 Block 50s and 52s as well if I am not mistaken. That being said all the F-16 in Pakistani Airforce are very capable which goes without saying. The older ones are more agile iirc

    • @retardmoguss
      @retardmoguss Před 2 lety +30

      @@sourabhgupta4853 the JF-17 Block 3 has much better radar than the older F-16 so even if it can't replace, it doesnt mean its inferior

    • @mralive9360
      @mralive9360 Před 2 lety +14

      Jf17 was designed to replace aging f7 and mirages it is supposed to be a cost effective cheap cost and cheap to maintain fighter and it's alot cheaper than a new f16

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 Před 2 lety +9

    Hell yeah! Thanks GS!! I've been askin for this! Watching now lol freakin excited to see the results😁👍👍

  • @hamidselectronics4863
    @hamidselectronics4863 Před 2 lety +10

    F-16: Hehe, you can not get me.
    Thunder: Then here is a gift.

  • @Someonehasstolenmyhandle
    @Someonehasstolenmyhandle Před 2 lety +7

    That moment, ,when Jeff had enough of that, nose countering shittery..😂

  • @BackerCZ
    @BackerCZ Před 2 lety +2

    Your knowledge of this game is absolutely brilliant. And it's a real pleasure to watch.

  • @clementnoel6663
    @clementnoel6663 Před 2 lety +8

    I'd like to see a viper vs rafale dogfight, maybe soon GS ? ;)

  • @cipherunknown_
    @cipherunknown_ Před 2 lety +58

    I'm Pakistani and I indeed found this video particularly interesting.

  • @munnumkhalid
    @munnumkhalid Před 2 lety +4

    In PAF they say dont even think you have guns in Jeff and they don't even load bullets that much in the fighter for the A to A role.

  • @paez4779
    @paez4779 Před 2 lety

    I've been dying to see this! Thank you!!!

  • @basecubing612
    @basecubing612 Před 2 lety +6

    Hi GS! Personally I would really like to see a dogfighting tutorial. For me personally I would love to see the F16 but it would also be awesome if it was in general. You absolutly don't need to do this but I would love to see it. Thanks for all your videos man! They're awesome and you're awesome!

  • @suspiciousobscurity9886
    @suspiciousobscurity9886 Před 10 měsíci

    man i cant stress enough how much i love your videos, always educational, always entertaining, always fu, you have the perfect channel hands down

  • @matiaedo9634
    @matiaedo9634 Před 2 lety +4

    "oh, wha-" LMAOOOO 8:40

  • @hassamnasir938
    @hassamnasir938 Před 2 lety +8

    As a Pakistani.. i really enjoyed the video.. hoping to see u in JF17 next time!

  • @GM-fh5jp
    @GM-fh5jp Před 2 lety +1

    Glad to hear "Requiem for the Dying" is back for the slo-mo shots.
    The unmistakable sound of Growling Sidewinder in the DCS Universe.

  • @F22Lover
    @F22Lover Před 2 lety +5

    Hey GS! Just wanted to say I love your content and really want to get DCS! Flying the Viper or Raptor is my dream

  • @larrysteve7272
    @larrysteve7272 Před 2 lety +1

    That fox 2 kill reminded me of that Mirage 2000 Mig-29 dog fight video where GS was trying all sorts of Maneuvers to avoid guns just to get slapped with a fox 2

  • @avramnovorra
    @avramnovorra Před 2 lety

    Finally the showdown i was looking for for some time and now i know what to and what not to do in a Jeff vs Viper battle.. noice!!

  • @RazerTheDuck
    @RazerTheDuck Před 2 lety +4

    sidewinder basically shot the physics out of the JF-17 that first fight my goodness gracious

  • @speedbirdmuc5182
    @speedbirdmuc5182 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Growling, you are the best! 🙏🤙

  • @elijahsajeel7896
    @elijahsajeel7896 Před 2 lety +12

    Yeah GS this was really interesting. Thanks for doing this for us Pakistanis.

  • @b2tall239
    @b2tall239 Před 2 lety +3

    "He seemed happy...." Damn, GS......your eyesight is way better than mine. I thought he looked a tad morose but hey, I wear glasses for a reason 😁
    Thanks for another excellent video 👏

  • @SovietToaster
    @SovietToaster Před 2 lety +5

    The natural progression now: Thunder vs Lightning

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 Před 2 lety

    And frustration level goes up to ENOUGH LOL Good fights, thanks GS

  • @slayerofmidgets3201
    @slayerofmidgets3201 Před 2 lety +4

    I'd have lost my patience with your nose counters so much earlier than they did lmao

  • @saqibnadeem8479
    @saqibnadeem8479 Před 2 lety +2

    Gunfight in a Jeff doesn’t make much of a sense when u know it’s not for air to air role, you explained it really well and F 16 got better engine with better thrust to weight ratio as well.

  • @dougnixon6464
    @dougnixon6464 Před 2 lety +1

    4:27 what a shot, with the guns and the camera! :P

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 Před 2 lety +8

    I think the Viper had it real easy in this video.
    The gun on the JF-17 is really a piece of shit.

  • @Ali-bz9gd
    @Ali-bz9gd Před 2 lety +5

    Id recommend that you play 4rounds instead of 5, 2as F16 and the other 2 as JF17, so we know its you not ze plane.

  • @Michaelkaraz
    @Michaelkaraz Před 2 lety

    Well fought GS respect man

  • @MiG-31893
    @MiG-31893 Před 2 lety +5

    Please can you do Gripen vs JF-17 next time? (With you in the gripen)

  • @ghostrider1827
    @ghostrider1827 Před 2 lety +1

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the Jeff pilot said fuck this gun shit!! Take this fox 2!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @VelnixFilms
    @VelnixFilms Před 2 lety

    Exciting dogfight!!

  • @mustafatariq3252
    @mustafatariq3252 Před 2 lety

    Oh man GS listened to the request. Thanks alot, do one with the fox 2s as well.

  • @shadekerensky3691
    @shadekerensky3691 Před 2 lety +1

    We still totally need either the IL2 career and/or the F-104 Starfighter Bomber Intercept/Mig 21 Bomber Escort mission.

  • @bukhariali71
    @bukhariali71 Před 2 lety +1

    Rudder is your best friend when flying the JF17. If slow, it can do some crazy Hornet like stuff with the rudder. Have to time. It right and flip the nose right on the bandit.

  • @dherm2345
    @dherm2345 Před 2 lety +3

    GS, what is the name of your closing soundtrack?

  • @jarrettdavis1181
    @jarrettdavis1181 Před 2 lety +1

    Was wondering if you could do the scenario from the movie Iron Eagle. I know it’s not really realistic, but it could be fun.

  • @vhira
    @vhira Před 2 lety +2

    I would like to see Su30mki vs the F16 viper.

  • @MuhammadAhmed-in8
    @MuhammadAhmed-in8 Před 2 lety

    That's the aerial war I always wanted to see

  • @omer_dr_7211
    @omer_dr_7211 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey GS nice video Can you do f16 vs jf 17 BVR fight it will be interessting thx

  • @jacobusstefanuspotgieter1332

    What is the name of the last intrumental tune that you use in your video from 13:46 onward. I like it. I want to look for it in i Tunes.
    Thanks for taking the F16 out again. I hope we see it dancing in the skies one day against the Mirage. Guns and missiles.

  • @stinkyfungus
    @stinkyfungus Před 2 lety

    That first gun rip in slow mo was a real snuff film...
    Just hosed the poor bastard Right down the centerline.

  • @PereFPS
    @PereFPS Před 2 lety

    Will we see the conformal f16 vs f16 test? Also will the conformal version be updated with the new flight statistics?

  • @muhammadfaizan2461
    @muhammadfaizan2461 Před 2 lety

    finally....thanks for the video

  • @philippgro2797
    @philippgro2797 Před 2 lety +1

    what if the F-16C Viper and JF-17 Thunder get a gun pod so the JF-17 Thunder doesn't have to compensate for that 8°?

  • @bc3713
    @bc3713 Před 2 lety

    It's so nice to see the f-16 flying like I know it. Before it looked like it had bags on the whole time

  • @danishbegmirza
    @danishbegmirza Před 9 měsíci

    I think this was pure pilot expertise more than anything.

  • @kaiezesi6630
    @kaiezesi6630 Před 2 lety +1

    Overshoot any secondddd.... oh waht!? Boom

  • @nubbyg9096
    @nubbyg9096 Před 2 lety

    Another great video

  • @IceyJones
    @IceyJones Před 2 lety +2

    that fox2 kill XD.....well.....technically you tried to extend XD

  • @Jr-uh2so
    @Jr-uh2so Před 2 lety +2

    I thought he went to fox2 cause he was out of rounds. Haha. Those were some legit disco moves!

  • @victorshikhman
    @victorshikhman Před 2 lety +2

    I've always wondered... are the F-16 or other jets able to aim the gun within some narrow band? So, you'd point the nose, get him in the hud, and within some tenths of one degree through the effective range, the guns can adjust to give you a little more accuracy. Or is raw nose position the only way to "aim" guns? I always thought it was the latter, but in some of these videos, it seems like you shouldn't be able to hit him through nose position and still do, as though there is some mechanical adjustment of the gun besides raw nose position. Maybe you could give us a class in using guns on a western fighter like F-16, understanding the HUD elements, etc.

    • @RR-us2kp
      @RR-us2kp Před rokem +1

      Gun is fixed. But the radar gives a solution to shoot depending on the distance to target. At least that's how the f18 works. Pretty sure f16 is same

  • @f224life
    @f224life Před 2 lety

    I Would be VERY Curious to see a fight between F-16 Viper and F-35!!~~~

  • @userphone4359
    @userphone4359 Před 2 lety

    Helicopter against intercepter - wil be interesting to see and to imagine different variants.

  • @BOYASTIGDCS
    @BOYASTIGDCS Před 2 lety

    Love the gun kill trying to learn that gun kill in your server..

  • @astonmartinzz
    @astonmartinzz Před 2 lety +5

    Watching you flex your defensive muscles in a disadvantage situation was very nice to watch. How fast your training came back to keep him off you while you flew his fight and still overcame is impressive. It would be cool to see you in a conversation with some pilots from agressor squadrons here in the States. See how fast they offer you a sim instructor position!

  • @adityasilwal7069
    @adityasilwal7069 Před 2 lety

    That "my name a Jeff" got me bad XD

  • @udemyuae8913
    @udemyuae8913 Před 2 lety

    Altough thay opponent guy has no match with your skills...Love this videos....thankyou very much...🥰🥰

  • @Legendary_Tales
    @Legendary_Tales Před 2 lety

    Growling Sidewinder: 1080p?!?! WHY?!?! one of the main reasons I watcn your channel is because you post in glorious 4K. I truly love those videos! Please resume that standard.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety +1

      The 4K processing is CZcams being slow to process it, it eventually will go to 4K but it’s out of my hands as to the timing.

  • @whalelord9641
    @whalelord9641 Před rokem

    I'm pretty sure I scared my neighbors laughing as loud as I did when he fired the fox 2. That was great.

  • @thecoolmagnet3785
    @thecoolmagnet3785 Před 2 lety

    why does the jf tumble like that in the first 2 fights once its hit ?? fcs going out ? If so why are the elevators fully down not able to keep the plane from doing backflips ?

  • @hamidselectronics4863
    @hamidselectronics4863 Před 2 lety

    I think that the gun in Thunder was angled for ground targets, i don't know exactly. Because I saw may events and programe on TV in which the Jeff stikes ground target with gun precisely.

  • @acarrillo8277
    @acarrillo8277 Před 2 lety

    Man oh man you turned the pilot into chunky salsa on that first round

  • @jamesj.7750
    @jamesj.7750 Před 2 lety +1

    GS: this is a guns only fight.
    *takes a fox 2 in the ass*
    GS: C'mon Jeff! 🤣

  • @kaiyumahmed4676
    @kaiyumahmed4676 Před 2 lety +14

    Not just Pakistani also loving from Bangladesh ❤️🇧🇩

    • @venome447
      @venome447 Před 2 lety

      and Seriously we miss Bengali Pilots in PAF ,,

  • @Krags47
    @Krags47 Před 2 lety

    Would you call them cousin jets or step sibling jets?

  • @_Feyd-Rautha
    @_Feyd-Rautha Před 2 lety

    That second kill was so nasty. Friggen sniper

  • @leocastillo6828
    @leocastillo6828 Před 2 lety +2

    Can you please do the f18 vs the f15

  • @zahnatom
    @zahnatom Před 2 lety +3

    the jf-17 when hit: *spiiiiiin*

  • @drush525
    @drush525 Před 2 lety +1

    Not sure what the feasibility of doing a modern hornets nest all out fight with like 20 vs. 20?

  • @Dv087
    @Dv087 Před 2 lety

    Would love to see some night time fights.

  • @saadfarooqbhatti61
    @saadfarooqbhatti61 Před 2 lety

    Do a dogfight between paf j10c vs iaf rafale

  • @moizmughal5363
    @moizmughal5363 Před 2 lety

    Most awaited and exciting episode of 2022 calendar ,best wishes from Pakistan

  • @itsmahin5315
    @itsmahin5315 Před 2 lety +2

    JF-17 Vs F-16............🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
    Very interesting video.......✨🎉🎊

  • @Cmoth040
    @Cmoth040 Před 2 lety +5

    The JF-17 looks like the illegitimate child of an F-16 and the F-20 Tigershark.

  • @dad27rcaf33
    @dad27rcaf33 Před 2 lety

    In that first kill, as you was panning in slow motion at one point viewing the dead JF pilot he looked just like Elon Musk Star Man lol...

  • @globalislamicreminders

    Will you make a video on the jf 17 block 3?

    • @Mike_Romeo
      @Mike_Romeo Před 2 lety

      There is no block 3 for this sim

  • @-SBR4Z-
    @-SBR4Z- Před 2 měsíci

    Anybody know what song does GS use at the end of this video?

  • @abdulmoeez2633
    @abdulmoeez2633 Před 2 lety +2

    That fox 2 was unfair!
    Against the ethos!

  • @tupahutuokoneiswife3972

    Dude, the engine sound in the beginning reminds me of my computer during day of defeat days! muted!

  • @shark4465
    @shark4465 Před 2 lety

    can you do the f16 vs the su 57?

  • @keredrellit3992
    @keredrellit3992 Před 2 lety

    been a bit since you did a down and dirty ww1 video.

  • @jayminer9416
    @jayminer9416 Před 2 lety

    "My name is Jeff" DEAD!!!!!!

  • @Rana_Ans
    @Rana_Ans Před 2 lety +2

    how about an F-16 vs JS-17, FOX-2 flight please :D

    • @hamzaj888
      @hamzaj888 Před 2 lety

      jf17 will surely lose as f16 have helmet mounted display n high off boresight missile which jeff doesn't have