I'm still disgusted with our king at the time changing his mind and not allowing his cousin and his family in the country..that's one part of our history I'm ashamed off...
The Two missing Royal Remains have been found in 2007 and they belong to Aleksey and Marie. And One thing I can never understand, If King George V was afraid that a revolution can break out if they took Tsar's family to England, then why couldn't he sent Tsar's family to any of their Colonies? They could've sent them to British Somaliland or British India (to the secluded Mountainous regions where they had Great Mansions to live in). England Simply betrayed them.
The one body that was missing in the grave was actually Maria's. Anastasia was always there with the rest of her family. The remains of Maria and Alexei were found years later.
@Rodolfo Frías Huh? There's a pretty detailed protocol of the man in charge of the assassination and the disinterment of the imperial family was filmed... But some archeologist took some skulls earlier and then put them back later (in the 90s). Don't know how detailed their information is.
There's no way to prove which of the sisters was buried in the larger mass grave. & which was buried with her brother Alexi, in the end it honestly doesn't matter. What matters is that they've all been found. & were able to be laid to rest properly.
I still find it terribly sad that the British king at the time could of saved his cousin who he was close to. He at first granted the family asylum in England, then due to political pressure he recounted the asylum 😓 so wrong
As far as I read somewhere they had actually preparations done to leave by ship to England but 2 or 3 of the girls and the boy had the measles and wasn’t fit enough to travel and later on king George did change his mind due to political issues arising in England
Relatives ... are TERRIBLE PEOPLE, VERY TERRIBLE .... I HAVE HAD MY OWN EXPERIENCES WITH 'RELATIVES' THAT WHEN I NEEDED THEM MOST, THEY DESERTED ME, BUT STRANGERS TOOK ME IN INSTEAD AND HELPED ME AND MY BABY ... THERE I S A GOD ! PRAISE HIS NAME FOREVERMORE
The song is sad & beautiful at the same time. Thank you so much for sharing. I followed the story of The Grand Duchess "Anastasia". Godspeed to the Czar & his family. This is one for the Ages! Bless you all & your Entourage.
+Sakura Miku.....When I heard it, I knew I wanted to purchase it. After a lot of searching I found it on Google under the name of "Little Bells Peals." The cost was .99-1.25. It is sung by The Choir of Lenningrad Radio. I have also seen it called "The Little Bell" by Kremlin Capella. (I have never heard this version.) I could not find it. I do like the version I purchased from Google. I have seen the words to this song translated into English, as I don't speak Russian. It's a story that's as haunting & beautiful as it's music. If I can be more help please l let me know. Take care.
Conspiracy theories are always interesting, especially when they're not easily answered, but most of the time the truth lies in the simplest explanation. In this case, it's that all tragically died in the cellar in 1918, and all are now buried in the Romanov mortuary room at the St. Peter and Paul Fortress in St. Petersburg.
I have seen several documentaries on this tragic event and I feel like their parents are at fault for the murder of their innocent kids. They didn't deserve this. But the tsar failed to take his responsibility seriously and his wife also failed to fulfill her duty. Because of their crappy leadership skills people didn't feel secure under their rule and slowly but surely their support for the tsar was lost. The tsar and his wife should have known better. It is very sad how the children were killed and I hope they all got the burial they deserved rather than being dumped and dismembered the way they were.
The Czar,was far thinking,he had introduced compulsory schooling for all children,this plan was continued by the Bolshies,so it must have been a good plan. The Bolshies were only looming for an excuse to gain power
Jarek Loovali ..... Tsar Nicholas was out of touch with the reality of the lives of his people. He was a weak and ill prepared leader and doomed to fail. It’s a shame so many people suffered because he was so oblivious.
Looking at that woman's photos (especially as a young woman) and then looking at Anastasia's photos, you can tell they are not the same person. The faces are too different.
That's why I was surprised that it took those photo "experts" that long, and that much turning, flipping, sliding the pictures to conclude "oh, they are not the same person".
Something to keep in account when the Tsar & his Family were murdered he was by far the richest Man in the world. He was worth billions of dollars when he died in 1917 which would have been an amazing amount for someone to have back in that era. The vast majority of his financial holdings as far as actual money is concerned was kept in the Bank of England. Had by some chance one of his Daughters actually lived & escaped there was no way going forward the powers that be would have admitted she was of the Russian Royal Family as to do so that Daughter would be the sole heir to the late Tsar's vast fortune. All the late Tsar's money is still in England & to this day Royals in Europe related to the last Tsar of Russia by bloodline have been fighting over that fortune for nearly one hundred years. Could one of his Daughters actually escaped that blood bath in Siberia? Maybe & then again maybe not. That being said there were powerful forces all these years behind the scene that would ban together & claim fraud anytime a Woman would step up to claim she was the late Tsars' Daughter. This story will never really be closed.
They are all long dead. I'm just saying, if bolsheviks or any of the like in Russia even had the smallest inkling she would have made it out they would find and end her in short order. There were many people handling the bodies that night and I'm sure not everyone was drunk, those bodies were accounted for. I think the whole missing princess thing is just a fabrication and simple legend. The people claiming to be the girl are either crazy or want some cash, notice how all of them seemed to live long happy lives? If she made it out of there you bet your ass if it were me I would NEVER admit my real identity after seeing how my family was exterminated. That govt would for sure kill her if they knew she made it out. JMO. That Steve guy spouting the conspiratard bs is part of the problem. Let these people rest, they earned the right.
@@WhtnyRs Either that or they would've ran to their grandmother (who was still alive until quite some time, who was still hopefully waiting for a letter from her son years after his death, which she never got or their aunts, all of whom they knew and could trust. The Romanovs *died* and people should please let it rest, the story is cruel and inhuman enough as is.
I never thought that any of the murderers would take the CHANCE to let any of the romanovs escape given the long odds of getting anyone out of russia especially a child. If anastasia ever turned up anywhere ALIVE the twelve murderers would suffer very slow deaths via the cheka or the kgb. Alexei being a haemophiliac could NEVER have survived being shot or bayonetted ONCE. I believe rumours of any escape would originate with the murderers trying to show some confidante or relative that they were NOT abject monsters
Anna Anderson could have escaped like she said. Maybe she was part of the family staff or a family member of one of the staff killed along with the family. She still would have been very scared I'm sure.
Anna Anderson was a Polish factory worker who sustained her injuries from an explosion in the factory. She looked nothing like ANY of the Grand Duchesses, except for the color of her blue eyes. I believe Anna Anderson was possessed by the earthbound spirit of the young Anastasia. which is why she knew things that were convincing.
Back in the day, it was not uncommon for an absolute monarch to "sow his royal oats"; that is to say produce illegitimate children as a means to back up his dynasty should anything happen to the royal family itself. The two persons whose remains were DNA tested in 2007 were most likely to have been "royal oats" that Nicholas II had sowed with any one of Alexandra's sisters. There were many women who claimed to be Anastasia in the wake of the assassination of the Russian royals but only one woman had all the corroborative evidence that supported her claim. The main aspect of the denunciation of Anya Tchaikovsky, a.k.a Anna Anderson was the claim that she was an uneducated factory worker from Poland by the name of Franziska Schanzkowska who was five years older than the Grand Duchess Anastasia. In the early 1990's a lab which analysed a DNA sample from Anna Anderson and declared her claim as fraudulent and she was in actual fact Franziska Schanzkowska. Strangely enough, Franziska's brother was the first to come forward and dispute the DNA result, stating his late sister did not have a mole removed from her chest, nor a deformed right toe; both of which the Grand Duchess had. The self-styled Grand Duke, Cyril (and I say self-styled because the title of Grand Duke/Duchess is given only to the Tsar's children and grandchildren) offered Anderson a lavish income if she withdrew her claim that she was Anastasia. Cyril would never have done such a thing if he wasn't trying to bury something that he knew would cost him his share in the Romanov estate. As for Anastasia's grandmother the Empress Dowager Maria Feodorovna, she died before she had the chance to meet Anderson, to which she would have recognized as Anastasia. Cyril had to wait till Maria Feodorovna passed away before he could publicly denounce Anna Anderson as a fraud. Anastasia was purportedly rescued by two brothers by the name of Tchaikovsky who took her to a doctor by the name of Sokholov, who treated her. There is, of course, no evidence of the existence of the brothers Tchaikovsky. In my opinion, all records of the two brothers had been destroyed at Lenin's behest considering that they had committed such a sin against the Party that warranted erasure from existence and making all mention of their names taboo, which was the most severe punishment an ancient ruler could inflict upon someone. Also, the bunions on one's feet can be used to identify that one as reliably as fingerprints. No two persons can have exactly the same fingerprints on his/her hands and no two persons can have exactly the same bunions on his/her feet. The bunions on Anastasia's feet were exactly identical to those on Anna Anderson's feet, which would indicate Anastasia Romanov and Anna Anderson are one and the same. So more or less, the DNA that supposedly belonged to Anna Anderson had been switched with that of Franziska Schanzkowska at the behest of one or more of today's Romanovs, or for that matter someone from the Mountbatten household. Nonetheless, Franziska's brother disputed the result.
I didn't imply that Nicholas was sowing royal oats. I only expressed a theory, which everybody has a right to do. What is fact is in 1927, Felix Schanzkowski, the brother of Franziska Schanzkowksa signed an affidavit stating Anna Anderson was not his brother. He also mentioned his sister had neither a deformed right toe nor a mole cauterized from her chest, which are the two things both Anna Anderson and Anastasia had. Foot bunions are just as reliable in identifying people as fingerprints are. The bunions on Anna Anderson's feet are exactly identical to those of Anastasia's. The surviving Romanovs feared losing their shares in the estate of Nicholas II. By and large, the only evidence that didn't come up were fingerprints. Which was the standard of proof under German law in the 1920's. Also, the self proclaimed Grand Duke Cyril allegedly bribed witnesses and via a private detective by the name of Martin Knopf, became responsible for identifying Anderson as Franziska Schanzkowska. The canard of Franziska Schanzkowska had resurface several times in the '50's and '60's and in 1991. You might want to google the words "Franziska Schanzkowska Canard". There have also been many allegations of a darker side of the House of Windsor driven by the Masonic values in which homosexual rape at the hands of male members of the Royal Family was not uncommon at Kensington Palace. And such underhanded dealings gave rise as to why Her late Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, never approved of her husband, George VI going to the Lodge, detesting Freemasonry and everything it stood for. Underhanded dealings in the House of Romanov had been documented in history too, including the assassination of Tsar Paul I.
When I read Peter Kurth’s book decades ago, I became convinced that Anna Anderson was Anastasia. I grew up in N.C., Va and Md, so I remember hearing about her. Several members of her family absolutely believed her and she knew a lot of stuff that wasn’t widely known. I would have been apt to believe the DNA if they hadn’t gone that extra step to tie it to Franzseska. Also, Rasputin’s daughter thought so until they had a fight. I think AA’s demeanor was like royalty.
@@richfolkes yh ofc, the pious Orthodox man who stayed true to his wife to the very end because marriage is considered as holy was sowing royal oats (he was the Tsar for Christ's sake he could just have divorced her after the Rasputin rumors if he really wanted). Don't get me wrong, in regards to certain royal families its not uncommon but Nicholas simply wasn't the man who would. If he did, surely he would have chosen one of the illegitimate sons he fathered to inherit after him? Stop ruining their good names and just accept it, they were mecilessly slaughtered by the leading Communist regime.
Why didn't they try to see if the photos of the grandfather matched any of the Imperial guards? Or take mitochondrial DNA from Grandma Alina's children? It would have provided the same link...
This is a most impressive documentary. I so appreciate the thoroughness, and the music is quite emotional and perfect for this sad story , a story of greed , power and murder . How a soldier could be so cold blooded in murdering children is beyond me.
This tall grandson reminded me immediately of the czar's father, it gave me the chills... And yes the picture of her has the same expression of the mouth (lips) that Maria has in most of her Pictures! Also, the little bit she's holding in the picture (her younger son is the spitting image of kzars face, including his ears) Also gave me the chills! Why don't they submit themselves (the grandchildren) to the DNA test and compare with the kzar's family results?... It would be so easy!
This must be an older program as the remains of not only Maria Romanov but her little brother Alexei were found & identified using DNA analysis in July of 2007. The area in which their bodies were found wasnt far from the mass grave that the remains of the rest of the family were recovered from in the early 1990's.
Something is fishy about the July 2007 situation. I think they might have put story out to the public and said they found the 2 bodies and DNA results matching, but they really didn't. A fabricated story. It makes zero sense as to why Maria and her little brother were in a different spot. Unless, Maria survived and so did Alexey and they hopped off the back of the truck and then got caught. Buried where they killed them. idk...it's just odd they weren't buried with the others. IF that was really them.
Remember, the ones that did not die with the shooting were beat up and the girl that survived was said to have a horrible head injury. This would account to why should could not remember. It also takes her a long time to recover. She had a head/brain injury. It wasn't that she could not remember who she was but she was scared to say. She witnessed almost her complete family being murdered. That would scare a person into secret. We have known for a long time that one or two survived and for it to carry on for this long tells you that they did.
then I can also agree of this you Said, Sheryl Cambell, in this case of the missing Romanov. we were not there to see I witness of this. this brought me to a movie back of the 1970's version Of Anastasia, she the actress who played her said that she was the only alive and among her members what had happened to her. saying that she laid un conscientiously but the soldier came back saw her moving among her dead family and took her to a place hidden. and she was watched over while she recovered. she was taken over in America. she did not remember who she was and was given a name. please remember one of the soldiers could have given her a rifle but in the head. that gave her amnesia. than perhaps recovered her memory. in the film, she was saying she was the last daughter of the tsar. of Russia reclaimed her name, Anastasia after her memory had come back. but the people over in America did not believe that she was the tsar last daughter. this could have some significance to this again she could of been the Tsar daughter. I would kinda hope of this horric act that she survived this everything is always poltical of this
sheryl campbell no one survived. The remains of the daughter and son were found in the early 2000’s. They had hacked them apart and burned the bodies. DNA tests proves they were the remaining daughter and the son.
THIS!! Years ago, when I was much younger, I absolutely loved the animated film Anastasia, but I was old enough to find out about the true story behind the movie. I was curious, as many young children are, and I found this video. Fascinated by the story I watched part of this video, up until the reenactment of the families deaths. I haven’t watched Anastasia since. Other than childhood trauma, watching this video again is horribly fascinating, and the video is extremely well done! I grieve for the Romanov family, but History can be brutal.
I ve never seen Anastasia because strangers won t let me take their kids to the movies because I m not Michael jackson. How did Disney handle the ipatiev house
@@davidhallett8783It wasn’t Disney. They didn’t show it. It was just implied the family died. They only show the family escaping the palace and that’s it.
They know, don't they? They have all the bodies identified, and from the evidence gleaned from the study of them and from using contemporary written accounts from the killers, etc, they have put togther a sturdy account of what happened.
MrFredSed Except for the point made above that the DNA from the two found bodies was apparently quickly and easily extracted and identified when considering what happened to the remains uncontaminated usable DNA would have been difficult if not impossible to extract. The remains had been burned and acid doused and kept for 90 years in dirt exposed to all kinds of weather and possibly animals digging them up. It dies seem strange how easily, neatly and quickly the Russian government got the results that benefitted them.
Tsar Nicholas II, Alexandra, their four daughters - grand duchesses Anastasia, Maria, Olga and Tatiana - their son the Tsarevich Alexei and four royal staff members were murdered in the cellar of a house in Yekaterinburg in 1918. One night they were lined up as if for a family photo, and then a Bolshevik firing squad killed them in a hail of bullets, according to witness accounts. Those who did not die immediately were bayonetted. The royal couple and three daughters were formally reburied on 17 July 1998 - the 80th anniversary of the murder. They were canonised by the Russian Orthodox Church in 2000. Alexei and Maria are also likely to be canonised before the 100th anniversary in 2018. Their remains are currently kept at the Russian State Archives.
+MsJenn1985 first off it's not "Andrina" it's Andreevna, and secondly, she was not one of the Tsar's daughters. Princess Olga Andreevna Romanoff (born 8 April 1950) is a Russian princess and descendant of the House of Romanov. She was born in London the daughter of Prince Andrei Alexandrovich of Russia and his second wife Nadine Sylvia Ada McDougall (1908-2000). Her father was the son of Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna, sister of Tsar Nicholas II. She was born a full 33 years AFTER the Tsar, Tsarina and their family were murdered.
I know u believe that all the remains were found, but the description says the remains were found in 2007 and that it's strange how easy it was to identify them. Do u not think it's strange that granny Alina's remains we're contaminated and they lay in a ground for 30 odd years but the Romanov weren't and they lay there for 90 odd years and also were badly burned. Also the fact Alina and Maria are one in the same. I wouldn't believe everything scientists say
I know about Anastasia the last grand duchesses of russia her mother is from England but she marries the Russian she have a brother named Alexia I don't know that the hole family has died but I am still reading the book I took that from the library
Is this documentary serious? anyone with eyes would know this isnt true. Just look at the pictures of Anastasia when she was a teenager and the images they show when she was "in her early twenties with her children" its obbviously not her...just look at the face features.
Drew Hart both died in the execution. bones were found later on ..
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Didn't you see the whole documentary? They eventually came up with the conclusion towards the end that when comparing the old lady's face with Anastasia's sister, Maria, that Maria's face more closely fit the face of the old lady. Because of the contamination of the old lady's bones, the test results were inconclusive as to whether her DNA matched the Romanov family's DNA. However, because of the descriptive and empowering piece of evidence from the story of how the old lady escaped and how that strongly correlated to descriptions given publicly 30 years later from other witnesses at the scene, and of how both the grand duchess Maria's face strikingly resembles the face of the old lady, they decided that it was safe to say that the old lady was most likely Maria and that the grand duchess who escaped from the truck that night was not Anastasia, but was Maria.
charlottesasaki But wait... if she was related to the Romanovs... then wouldn't they be able to test the DNA of the grandchildren who apparently came forth? I dunno... highly suspicious.
Oh for goodness sake, the Imperial family were all murdered that dreadful night. As if anybody could have escaped that bloodshed...and DNA have accounted for all family members. RIP Romanov family.
they were wearing those corsets because they thought they were gonna be rescued and had sewed their jewelry into them essentially wearing the world's most expensive bulletproof vest
Anistasia died with the others. they were all woken up by a couple of maids and were told they were moving to a safer place but they were put in the cellar and some guards came in and said "we're going to execute you now" and the father could only say "what" and take a look at his family before they were brutally murdered. the smoke was so thick but once it finally cleared they saw Anistasia and Maria in the corner huddled in fear. the guards shot them. these guards were an assassination group. theres no way they were going to miss one. they put acid on the body's to get rid of the evidence and they dumped the remains in the forest. Anistasia sadly didn't, or couldnt have survived the assassination. it's horrible that the children had to suffer from mistakes the parents made. and tbh the parents did nothing it was mostly Rasputin. >and no I'm not whatching the whole thing because I dont believe one of the girls could have escaped
Same. They were all killed that night, there is no mystery. The hags claiming to be that poor girl should be ashamed of themselves imo. People always have to turn things like this into some conspiratard bullshit.
Fare enough. That of course is a very sound opinion. The documentary goes on to dig into their claims. Did you get up to where Oxford University tested the mtDNA. Also Sheffield University created a number of facial reconstruction. Nation Geographic said the documentary was one of the best examples of storytelling. It also won the Investigative Journalism Award at WorldFest Houston International Film Festival and a finalist in the New York Film Festival.
Not true. Nicholas didn't openly have a favourite. Though Yakov Yuronsky and Peter Ermakov determined seperately by observing the Emperor with his children that Maria was 'the Emperors great favourite'.
Olga has always been Nicholas' favorite. She was most like her father both in appearance and character. She was very intelligent and loved spending time on long conversations with her father. A definite daddy's daughter who did not like her mother. The Tsar always invited her to his office to discuss politics. But then Maria was strongly spurned by her siblings. The older sisters did not want to play with her because they thought she was stupid and clumsy. Olga and Tatiana were very close to each other. Anastasia also liked to spend time with Alexei much more than with Maria, because she was too quiet and meek. Her brother was just as mischievous as she was, so they could fool around together. Nicholas decided to somehow compensate Maria for this situation, in return making her someone like his favorite. After that, he spent a lot of time with her.
Anastasia is the most famous of all the Grand Duchesses because for a long time it was thought that she was the one to survive; also, there were two prominent cases of impostors claiming to be her which is probably what contributed the most to her fame. I read a lot about the Romanov's recently and to be honest, apart from that there isn't anything that really stands out about her to me. She was kind of a brat and one time put a rock in a snowball before throwing it at one of her sisters. I personally like her older sister Maria a lot better, who was stunningly beautiful and very kind and peaceful. She is more of an embodiment of what I feel most people think of when they think 'Anastasia Romanov'; not in person, but definitely in spirit and essence.
There is no reason to be rude about her character by calling her a brat. She was a child and if her personality was as you make it out to be, she was never given a chance to grow and learn. Let the girl Rest In Peace and remember that there is no need to speak negatively about a deceased person.
Yes, optimistically Gramma Alina has an uncanny resemblance to Grand Duchess Maria. But if she had two children with this Frank Guy who was 37 yrs. older than she. Maybe Maria did marry one of her loyal guards after all??? I would love to believe that perhaps one did escape, but it wasn't Anastasia; she's verified dead. The strange thing that is intriguing in all this is two sons of Princess Maria by Frank her body guard. What ever happened to those two sons & where the hell are they buried or cremated???? They seem to be the whole key to establishing & ending this mystery after nearly a century after that horrible night of assassination of the family, Dr. Botkin & three other servants. Albert dies of leukemia in 1997. Does his blood or DNA match with any of the known findings of the original Tzar Nicholas & his immediate family or even possibly Prince Phillip who is still with us at 95 yrs. young????RMA; Bakersfield, Ca....
He wouldn't match. Mitacondrial DNA is passed from mother to her children, but only female children carry on that line. Man passes y chromosome DNA to his children, but like woman to daughter only male children carry on that line.
Did they think to check the mitochondrial DNA of Granny Elena's children? Male or female, their mitochondrial DNA would match the existing documented samples if she is indeed Maria.
the problem I see is that from her photo she doesn`t look like Anastasia or maria or any of the other Romanovs,maybe she was related somehow,who knows?
Now someone's using their forensic noggin. With all the world's expert on the case it takes you to figured that out what a stroke of genius - Scotland should be knocking on your door!
why they didn't check the mitochondrial DNA of Granny Elena's children? Probably they comes from the idea that the children may not be her children or something like this. Or maybe someone doesn't want to reveal the truth .
Dark midnight in July in Siberia? This is an big error. Nights during the summertime are really light. This is a fact and all people living in North Europe, North Russia, Canada etc know this. Can be noticed of course in Alaska as well.
Who knows one just might have survived - however we will never ever be allowed to know the truth - Royal Families and Authorities together for whatever reason will see to that - we only really find out what it suits them for us to find out so you just have to use your gut feeling to decide what you want to believe - personally i think one daughter did survive but for this to have been revealed disclosed or acknowledged would have opened a can of worms "they" never wanted opened
Another romanticized version of history. They didn't make any mention of the execution with the family of the family's doctor and maid. Play a bit of haunting music and a re-enactment and it becomes history. They should have explained how the family got there in the first place. Or would that spoil the story?
That was wild! 😂 I hope that family find out the truth about their grandmother now. Her invading the law by being in South Africa illegally, living in an illegal a biracial relationship and having a midnight secret burial indicate she must have had an interesting life even if it wasn’t a royal one.
@@davidhallett8783 Are you the spelling police? It is maddening, and a waste of time, to keep opening comments only to find that it is you, correcting someone else's spelling. I realize what is meant, even with the error, and I am willing to overlook it. Continuously checking comments that have nothing to offer pertaining to the subject matter is an exercise in futility.
I have seen this video.. After viewing it I scoured the web for photographs of Maria in a similar pose to the only existing photograph of Granny A as a young woman.. I found 7 photos that I could use and overlayed them on different photoshop layers adjusting the transparency of each layer to get an accurate scale match... the results are uncanny... not only do the feature positions match, even the subtle carve of nose, nostril shapes, pout of mouth, form of cheeks, chin shape and relative position to mouth... if Granny Alina is not Maria R, then it is a very strange coincidence in itself, let alone the other information offered in the documentary.. i:e: Granny A never said she was Anastasia, that she described details surrounding her escape that were only made public in the 1980's decades after her own accounts, that her presumed husband also bears a striking resemblence to one of the the Romanovs private guard (who would have sworn life-long loyalty to the family)... etc.. I personally feel it is highly likely that Granny A is the Grand Duchess
it can never be sure, if it's confirmed by Russian government, especially when they have zero interests in finding the heir of the Czar who could claim back all their assets.
Vincent Lewis Why weren’t Granny Elena’s children and grandchildren also given DNA tests? Could they too have been matched with that of Prince Phillips family line?
+Paula Abrams Silver 1. The kids had died. 2. They may not have been biologically hers. 3. It's unknown if her grand kids refuse to give DNA or are not allowed too. Also the 2007 'remains' in question may not be the missing Romanov children anyway. It is virtually impossible to extract DNA off of severely chemically burned remains that are lying in a harsh environment for 90+ years. Many other scientists have criticised and even laughed that the 'remains' were identified and also too quickly and easily. The Russian government has an agenda and regardless of what is true or not they want all Romanovs to be dead. All the Romanovs likely did perish, but I severely doubt the fragments are really them. So many twists, turns, changing stories in this case.
shooting with rifles in a room and still not dead because of the corsets of diamonds and gold. They must have been a lot of diamonds that the corsets become a Protection waistcoat to get the bullets away.
Actually, the Tsar and his family were murdered with handguns. (Mauser Broomhandles and Nagant revolvers.) The stories of the girl's corsets containing gold and diamonds, let alone enough to stop bullets, is ludicrous.
MewTangerine I must protest, they more than likely where shooting a Mosin Nagant which is a 7.62 x 54r caliber. An extremely lethal round up to 1000 yards, or farther in the right hands. Great rifle indeed and extremely cheap on the resale market. I got mine for $129!
There's a version of that in the Philippines. There was a Russian woman out of nowhere who came to the Philippines and no one knew where she was from. They suspect she's from a royal family and they said there was a lof of resemblance between her and Anastasia.
I think the idea of the lost princess being Maria not Anastacia is absolutely fascinating. As for little Alexi it seems unlikely he would have lived much longer anyway.
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+Tash Jupp Russian investigators have exhumed the remains of the last tsar and his wife, as they re-examine their 1918 murders. Samples were taken from Tsar Nicholas II, his wife Alexandra, and from the bloodstained uniform of Alexander II, Nicholas's grandfather, killed in 1881.The Romanov family members, who were killed by revolutionary Bolsheviks, are buried at a St Petersburg cathedral. The Orthodox Church wants to confirm family links before other relatives can be reburied with them.The long-running murder case had been closed in 1998, after DNA tests authenticated the Romanov remains found in a mass grave in the Urals in 1991. But the DNA tests did not convince some Russian Orthodox Church members, because the remains of two - Tsarevich Alexei and Grand Duchess Maria - were found only in 2007, at a different spot in the Urals. The Investigative Committee, a state body, says new checks are needed in order to authenticate the remains of those two.
Between 1973 -75 I met a lady in Hendon NW4 UK, an old lady called Natalia Avoutin. I met her several times, she told me the whole story, one of which I never ever had a clue about. She showed me a linen bag that contained a lot of what was like valuable things, broaches, necklaces, rings. Among them were several documents, a letter, a folded seal embossed document some photos. The handwriting was not English looked Russian, I cannot say. She told me her real name was Anastasia she told me she was told by her father she was going away, and was taken by strangers, hidden for years. Then taken to England. She died I believe around 1979. I recall her telling me her story but my lack of background on it perhaps never clicked for several years.
+NOYB S It may have been, but she was a very lonely old lady, who spoke with fractured English. It was a chance meeting, I lived in a nearby road helped her carry something to her lower part of a house that she rented. She could easy be called a con artist if she was conning, she did none of that. Just an old lady with some items of her past, and as far as I know she died that way.
John, other women claimed to be Anastasia including Anna Anderson who I believe died in Virginia. The real girl was killed in 1918 and her remains were found in 2009. Anyone could loot the scene of the murder and claim those things to originally be theirs. An old lady claiming to be the princess who happens to speak broken English isn't enough proof. Just sayin.
+NOYB S Their remains were actually found two years prior to that in 2007. I remember there being a big hoopla with my family because my mother had believed Anna Anderson to be legit (she still does in spite of the DNA results) Anastasia or Maria was seen to be missing along with the only son of the tsar. It was never determined which daughter it was. Only that it was one of the younger two. For whatever reason people decided it was Anastasia or Natasyia (as her family called her). You are right though. As exciting and amazing as it would be had this old lady turned out to be the duches, it's not possible as all 6 of the last Russian Imperial family are now accounted for
DNA has proven ALL of the children & their parents were indeed killed that night. the only question here is whether the woman lied and her grandchildren honestly believe what is simply not true, or the grandchildren are the liars. either way, someone's lying.
Did anyone check out the maid? She would have known the details of the murders,as did Elena. Maybe they didn't kill her because she wasn't royal.Just saying.
The mystery of Anastasia had always fascinated me. I feel like the 1997 adaption was quite an insult to her memory. they made it sound like a great magic adventure but when infact she and her family were brutally murdered.
the late William maples who examined the remains of the Romanovs came to the conclusion that it was Anastasia and Alexei that were missing ,maria`s remains was present in the mass grave.
I know it's after the fact, but here would have been my big problem with the so-called anecdotal evidence. We've been told Granny Alina told that story well before the official reports came out, but the story is being told second-hand, and told *after* the official reports came out. Just because they say that's the story Granny Alina told doesn't mean it's true. I'll be charitable and not accuse them of deliberate misrepresentation for profit (although to be honest, that would be my first inclination -- I don't buy the whole 'let's unite Russia' bit in the slightest) but the fact is, there's a reason hearsay isn't good evidence. Memory is unreliable, and it's been years since either man heard the story. It's entirely possible they heard of the updated account and 'remembered' the detail about the fat woman, or even that one 'remembered' and prompted the other in recollections. People do that all the time -- in fact, there's an experiment on the program Brain Games that demonstrates just how memory can be corrupted among a group of people. Also, just because 'Granny Alina' got scared and hid at the sight of police, that's not conclusive, either. There is such a thing as paranoia and delusions. The documentary's very well done, but personally, I wouldn't find their investigations credible in the slightest. The biggest black mark of all is that they state that they're *going to prove* their grandmother's claim - not that they're going to investigate whether it was true or not. If it's the former, the inclination is to ignore all evidence to the contrary. If it's the latter, you're evaluating whether there's truth and you're more likely to be an unbiased judge of facts. Thank you for sharing and it's much appreciated. :)
Nocturnal Rites thanks for your comments. Very good observation and many are valid. But your suggestion they did it for profit. I assume you are talking about the Tzars wealth. That they were after that. At first glance you could think that, but they would never have had a chance legally against the Russians. These were poor people that didn’t have the resources to mount a legal claim BBC against the Russian Government. Also I think you’ll find we say PROVE HER CLAIM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. Not to twist the evidence to prove her story. Look, fair go, all we have done is present the evidence. It up to you to decide. I think it’s unfair to suggest the film makers were anything other than straight.
Fare enough. That of course is a very sound opinion. The documentary goes on to dig into their claims. Did you get up to where Oxford University tested the mtDNA. Also Sheffield University created a number of facial reconstruction. Nation Geographic said the documentary was one of the best examples of storytelling. It also won the Investigative Journalism Award at WorldFest Houston International Film Festival and a finalist in the New York Film Festival. We don’t say we are going to prove anything. We quote the 2 men saying ‘we are going to prove’ but the narrative of the documentary does not.
Interesting that the man who seems turned out to be "Marie's" grandson? strikes a remarkable resemblance to Alexander III not to mention that Alex III was over 6 ft tall and the grandson? is a very large man.. also the large ears and placement of them prntscr.com/bg14pn
That's what I was thinking all along - that he bore an uncanny resemblance to King George AND Czar Nicholas. I can even see Prince Harry's face in his!
Russian investigators have exhumed the remains of the last tsar and his wife, as they re-examine their 1918 murders. Samples were taken from Tsar Nicholas II, his wife Alexandra, and from the bloodstained uniform of Alexander II, Nicholas's grandfather, killed in 1881. The Romanov family members, who were killed by revolutionary Bolsheviks, are buried at a St Petersburg cathedral. The Orthodox Church wants to confirm family links before other relatives can be reburied with them.
Certain senior members of the Russian Orthodox Church is the issue. This is the main reason as to why the funeral of the children hasn't happened yet. These members of the church still have doubt (or are refusing to believe) that these are in fact the remains of the Grand Duchess and the Tsarevich. Despite conclusive DNA results conducted by the US and Russia positively identifying the remains to be them. So the Russian Government have allowed further testing to be done. But the results for this (hopefully final batch of results) will be released in June this year. I agree, it is beyond frustrating. I just wish that these people would stop hindering the rightful burial process of this children and finally allow their remains to be rightfully laid to rest alongside the rest of their family. I pray that they will come 2018.
It is extremely interesting that rumour at the time (recorded by investigator Sokolov in 1923) had it that Alexis was spared and taken by one of the assassins as his 'house boy' - and that (although official accounts had him buried with his family) his body was not found with the others.
it might be her but perhaps the birth mother is not the tsar s wife. that also can be a possibility. the grandson dying of leukemia is a strange coincidence. may they are rest in peace,and may all these dumb revolutions stop. and for what we know this lady might have been maria, and maybe the tsar s mistress had a baby at the same time and these babies switched at birth. so maybe the real grand duchess lived her life as a peasant. anyways it s so sad.
This is a truth that will never be known, interested in this story as I am in Russia currently and I am learning alot from their history... honestly, honestly I hope that Anastasia or at least one of the Romanov family survived but I doubt it... RIP Romanov family...
He knows he is lying, and you can see it on his face. She knew that she was placed in a truck. She knew that there were an old lady. She knew that she went to Poland. She knew that she had kinfolk in Germany. She knew about being placed in a wooden box and heard folk fighting and shooting. YES, SHE IS THE REAL THING, BUT THE QUEEN IS DOING WHAT SHE DOES BEST. It is impossible to kill off a dynasty and the head of the illuminati or the Council of 13, the Monarch of England, not know about it. They call all the shots!
I hate to say it,but to me I don't think anyone survived this.Although deep down in me I want to believe that one just one of them made it out alive.But sadly we will never know the full story of this.I Hate to say that no one made it.
Seems to me that had one of the Grand Duchesses been smuggled out of Russia in a crate, as Alina's story goes, been brought to Poland and later to Berlin where she was helped by an unnamed baron, said baron - no doubt a friend or relative - and all the nobility of Germany and Great Britain would have embraced and protected her - not sent her off to live in anonymity in South Africa. Just saying' . . .
No, I 'know' that Czar Nicholas asked for asylum in England, but was refused by his cousin? King George who feared reprisals against England. So, the Royal Family of Russia would not have been welcomed by the Royal Family of England. King George basically expected Czar Nicholas to face the music in his own country.
Robyne J True, the British royals did not extend a warm and welcoming refuge to their Russian cousins (I've read variations on this), but there were plenty of other royal relatives scattered throughout Europe, Romanovs among them. All theories about those beautiful duchesses surviving such brutality are intriguing but I find them far fetched and am not (yet) convinced any of the girls survived the Bolshevik Revolution.
@@MissMadeleine9Ultimately George V was very hospitable to his aunt and cousins. Unfortunately he lacked the foresight to realize that Nicholas and Alexandra were in danger.
There were 2 graves. Alexei and Maria in one and the 9 in the other. The Russians have shown that Anastasia died in the first grave. The first grave contained 9 bodies 8 females 1 male, the second grave not discovered till recently contained the missing Maria and Alexei and their dna was matched.
6 females and 5 males were apparently killed. So 5 females and 4 males were in the first grave and Alexei and another sister whose exact identity is unknown and still up for debate. That is if u believe all died though and the original story. However a case this high profiled could easily have been a cover up and had evidence planted. The assassins account kept changing. It is impossible to get DNA out of remains severely chemically burned and lying in the ground for 90 odd years. The biggest mystery is how they 'identified' these remains. The Russians would benefit if all died that night.
+amity amity they said they got DNA off the 'remains' and 'identified' them. The only problem is it's impossible to get DNA off of bones buried for 90 odd years, lying in a harsh environment and also severely chemically burned and mutilated. Ask anyone who has studied biology and they will laugh like I did when they 'identified' them. The biggest mystery is how they 'identified' the 'remains'. Read the description that comes with the video it explains it well, nobody seems to have read it, it's all in the description with the vid!
+TheJoker it would make the most sense. Most historians never really give Maria much attention, not until the Russians believe she was the one missing. Who was lost? It was either Maria or Anastasia but it can't be determined which one.
the fact that maria matched made me think of the guard who sent her a cake.... that would make for a reason someone would rescue her it was a reason that she had fallen in love and the oppertunity presented itself???!!! idk wishful thinking that her soldier rescued her.... this is just another sad record of our mistreament on each other horrible human kind
I think it is the little princess because her son look so much like his grandfather. He also died young. I wish it is her knowing she survived makes me feel better.
+Callan Rogers Coz then they wouldn't have had an excuse to make an hour and a quarter documentary, or treated their appallingly flimsy evidence as proof of Maria surviving.
Wow! What an interesting documentary...very eye-opening and full of details. I actually was looking more for the history of the Romanovs and how they came to be such a mystery, but I think this documentary did provide some inside into their mystery and then some scientific research that was amazing to me. Thanks for uploading!
I personally think that she was one of the servants who was with the Royal Family on that night. I think she was there and knew who'd done it, hence her fear and silence all the rest of her life.
If they really wanted to know if they grandmother was anatasia wouldnt of they just asked her about her life before her family was killed and see if it matched up with history?
+Katie Proctor Actually, there was a Dimitri. He was the son of a kitchen worker and Alexei's best friend. ( They were around the same age.) It was said that he did go to the house of special purpose with the Romanovs, but weeks before the execution, when a changing of the guard was made, before the switch Alexei told Dimitri and his dad to get out while they could. They did, though no one knows what happened to them after.
Well, there was a kitchen boy, Yesterdaysmaybe, and he was Alexei's friend, but his name was not Dimitri. And Alexei didn't tell him to get out while he could; the Bolshies sent him away the day before the shooting, promising to bring him back, saying his Uncle (who they had already killed) wanted to see him. No one knows what happened to him after that.
Granny Elena doesn't look like Anastasia at all. She could have passed for Maria. Poor Albert. He was a good person. Glad he didn't live to see that ALL the Romanovs died on that horrible night in 1918
Maria would've ,if she'd just stayed quiet. In Yurovsky's journal, he says that as they loaded the bodies, Maria sat upright and began screaming until one of the mean began hitting her face in with the butt if their rifle until she was silenced. If only she'd stayed quiet.
Also Anastasia spoke French, Russian, as well as English. Since The Tsar’s German was poor & the Empress’ Russian was even worse. Alix spent much of her childhood in England as the favorite grandchild of Queen Victoria so Alix spoke English like a native as did Nicholas; so The Tsar & Empress spoke English -their best common language- and within the family they all spoke English to each other. Could Granny Alina speak French fluently & speak English fluently? If not, she couldn’t have been Anastasia. But then we already know definitively that Anastasia died with her family in Ekaterinburg. Too many aspects of Granny Alina’s story don’t make sense & conflict with the known, verified facts.
This family tragedy always gets to me. It makes me sad seeing a whole family get executed particularly of Alexei and Anastacia, who were children. How I wish they all lived to old age and how I wish the Russian monarchy remains to this day. How cool would that be?
Don t forget the czars were monsters too and their ministers with the russian soldiers often going into battle unarmed with orders to pick up fallen comrades rifles and ammo. And terrible disorganized pyrrhic battles with the germans where towards the end of both wars generals and other officers were being assassinated BY THEIR oWN MEN for wasting their men s lives. From 1905 to 1917 the army and the police were given orders to KILL unarmed protesters who had the nerve to complain they were STARVING. Just like the french revolution and germany after nov 1918
The account of Granny Alina saying she escaped on the back of a truck and there was "a fat old lady" (which were details not revealed for many years) along with the facial reconstruction is rather compelling for the case that this woman was Maria Romanov. At 1:04:17 I find a remarkable match to my eye, so I tend to believe it. Interesting.
But the DNA tests did not convince some Russian Orthodox Church members, because the remains of two - Tsarevich Alexei and Grand Duchess Maria - were found only in 2007, at a different spot in the Urals. The Investigative Committee, a state body, says new checks are needed in order to authenticate the remains of those two. Russia plans to rebury Alexei and Maria alongside the rest of the family in St Petersburg's Peter and Paul Cathedral. But for that to happen the Church wants to be certain about the remains.
HBB..Harry explain to these people in what capacity were you ever involved in this investigation". I followed various publications and none of them reveal that you and or so called society ever provided any"expert" assistance. On that note, could you outline your credentials that make you an expert? And here is a question for everyone, why would the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian Government would seek the help of an outsider? They have their own experts.
HBB..In your link, you only proved that Russian Orthodox Church wants to authenticate that the bones are truly the remains of the Tsarevich and his sister. Nothing more, nothing less. No where does it say that the Russian Orthodox Church is aware of some so called rescue of the Romanov. Why are the Romanovs venerated as Holy Martyrs by the Church? Nothing but pulp fiction. And you sir are a contributor to this disgraceful fantasy.
What occupies me more whether or not the old lady was a Romanov: She was a Russian emigrant, so she had a sad history behind, and I hope she found happiness later in life.
Maybe the bodies of Alexie & Anastasia / Maria that was found in the separate grave near where the Romanov Royal Family were shot were actually bodies of two Teenagers that were from the Royal Court that were Romanov by Blood Anastasia, Maria. Tatiana, Olga, Alexandria, Nicholas & Alexie wasn't the only royalty in Imperial Russia there were other Romanov Royalty that were in the royal court that could of been of killed to cover up Maria's & Alexie's Escape in the Russian Revolution I now believe this that Alexie & Maria really escaped so to cover up the evidence they were still alive & escaped... maybe they killed teenagers from the Royal Court instead of Alexie & Maria.... I believe Maria & Alexie Escaped & Granny Alina was really the Russian Princess Maria who escaped living as a commoner in South Africa as a Horse Shoe Blacks-Smith.....
When thee Bolsheviks killed the Tzar and his family they also killed their servants and companions which could have included young teenagers. So you could be right.
I reckon that if they really killed Alexie & Maria all in one night why did the Bolsheviks make two separate graves for the Russian Royal Family why weren't all their bodies buried altogether if they all died in one night Alexie & Maria escaped they must of killed two teenagers from the royal court & used them to prove that they killed Alexie & Maria & buried the two teenagers from the russian royal court in a separate grave when they didn't kill Maria & Alexie at all.....they escaped
Question is did the skulls of the Identified Romanov Alexie & Maria found in the separate grave actually match up with The Real Alexie & Maria... Like Granny Alina facial characteristics matched exactly with Princess Maria how do they know that an teenage boy & girl in the Russian/German royal court wasn't used to cover up the evidence that Alexie & Maria Escaped & was the skulls of the Two POSSIBLE ROMANOV Teenagers found in the separate grave have the same skull or facial characteristics as Alexie & Maria?
What if there was German relatives of Tsarina Alexandria from the Royal Court of Germany that also got married into Russian Royal Court that were relatives of Tzar Nicholas in the Royal Russian Court likeA German Princess Alexandria Married a Russian Prince Nicky & had families together there could of been Russian & German Relatives of the tsar & tsarina that had mixed raced/German & Russian children together among or in the Russian Royal Court there would of been more German family members of tsarina Alexandria in the Royal Court of Imperial Russia even teenagers who were children of Alexandria & Nicky's relatives....The Russian/German Imperial Family weren't the only people in the palace there were PEOPLE IN THE ROYAL COURT TO THAT COULD OF BEEN other German relatives of Alexandria that married other Russian Nobility like Alexandria did.... Many of Russian & German relatives & friends of the tsar & tsarina that were in the Royal Court that definitely would of Escaped one of them was Elisabeth Leontieff Hirshon's family Thank God From who all blessings flow... Maybe some Russian German Mixed Race Teenagers or Young Adults from the Royal Court of Russia & Germany were killed after all there were other Romanov Royal Court Family Members killed even teenagers that were related to Alexandria & Nicky as well too I think if all the royal family had all been killed together all in one night they would of all gotten buried all together why would the Bolshevik's bury Alexie & Maria in a separate grave if they killed all The Russian Family altogether in one night I think Alexie & Maria Escaped & that they put two mixed raced German Russian teenagers from the royal court that were related to Alexandria & Nicky's family that could of been either cousins or nieces or nephews that were an teenage boy & an teenage girl.....other people lived in the palace not just the grand duchesses/the tsar & tsarina & the Royal Court & their children that were related to the Tsar & Tsarina lived there too....Has the skulls of the two Romanov' Teenagers found in the separate grave have the same facial characteristics as the Real Alexie & Maria.... Like Granny Alina Facial Characteristics Match Perfectly with Princess Maria's?
+TheAlexischurches the bodies they found in 2007 were fragments their skulls were smashed into tiny fragments and much of them missing. So no they could not identify them by facial features. Strange how they could get DNA off of the bodies though. It's hard to believe they got DNA off bodies that were horribly burned, mutilated and buried in a harsh climate for 90 odd years. Apparently no teeth were found which is strange. Also Alexeis belt was supposedly found with them which makes no sense as all the bodies were stripped naked before burial according to yurovsky. U could be right maybe they got away or at least one survived after their rescue. Nickolas put millions which could be billions of today's money in separate accounts for each one of his daughters. Any survivor would be entitled to all the money. It's what Anna Anderson wanted. I think the Russian government unofficially used the money and that's why they can't recognise a survivor, if there is one.
I wish some of you would read hisory.1st Whats with the facination of Anastasia? And if you are going to fixate on her,spell her name correctly.Also.....a "couple of maids" did not wake them up.They had 1 maid still with them,Anna Demadovna.,but it was the Dr who woke them up after being instructed by the guards. And,NO,they couldnt have survived playing dead.
After the soldiers found so many jewels lining the girls' clothing, one might suppose the young women were all stripped of their clothes to find all the hidden gems. So, very doubtful that any of the naked dead bodies would have up and walked away.
This is very sad. What is even more heartbreaking is that history repeated itself not much later. Check out the story of the royal family in Baghdad, Iraq on the day of revolution July 14th., 1957. Iraqis celebrated the revolution as the Kingdom of Iraq became the Republic of Iraq, most just had to pretend that it was a just revolution. Surviving royal family members went to London. Later on, I think but not 100% sure, two unmarried princesses went back to Iraq and lived in AlMansour District on a street named after them; The Princesses Street.
As said below, mystery solved in 2007 as cited by the Russian Federation and U.S. authorities via DNA analysis. I'm curious as to whether this controversy would have been as prevalent as it was if her name didn't have a flair to as is 'Anastasia'. Amazing macabre story to say the least, even with the current outcome.
This is one of the most ridiculous docs that I've ever seen. "So how DID she end up in South Africa?" She didn't. She died that night, just like her siblings and parents. All of the remains of the family have been found and DNA tested. That woman doesn't even look like Anastasia.... unless Anastasia got a nose-job to make her nose look wider and reconstructive surgery to make her oval-shaped face more round.
It would make a lot of sense. If a drunk assassin lost a body, wouldn't they all lie about it? If not they would have been killed, so it makes perfect sense that they lied to the boss that all of them were dead, and it also makes sense why the lady wouldn't draw so much attention to herself like Anna Anderson did. If someone saw their whole family they wouldn't claim to be that person, in fear of being finished off.
Because they were found. In 2007 US and Russian scientists confirmed that the remaining bodies were Maria and Alexei. They are now buried at St. Petersburg
It would have been nice to think that Anastasia had escaped, taken away from Russia, and lived her life away from there, with her husband, children, and died an old woman with many grandchildren. But this did not happen. Anastasia was killed along with her family. The way she died was terrible and undeserving.
Greg Scott The reason is they need to match the mitochondrial DNA which is passed down by women. The grandsons were paternal grandsons who would not inherit the same mitochondrial DNA.
Christy Gift It has been many months (a few years?) since I was here, and only have a vague recollection-- I think Prince Philip, Elizabeth II's husband, carries Romanov DNA (possibly mitochondrial DNA) that could be used? If it is mitochondrial DNA that would be of use, then of course his offspring will not carry it.
I'd like to say something weird that has happened to me. Once, while I was sleeping, I saw a dream with a lot of details. I was in a room with what appeared to be the Russian Royal family EXCEPT Anastsia. There were some other men in the cold lighted room. The Royal family called me Anastasia. I wasn't looking at what happend from the rear, I WAS Anastasia. Olga was with a beautiful laced light blue dress, Tatiana was in a pastel yellow dress, Maria in a pastel green laced dress and I, Anastasia was in a pastel light pink dress. Alexei was wearing what seemed to be a white sailor styled white jacket with four big buttons, white pantaloons, black shoes and a sailor styled scarf. Maria was protecting me and I was protecting Alexei because some men in green military suits attacked with vintage pistols. I remember Maria, Olga and Tatiana saying to me YA LYUBLYU TEBIA and then I felt a tremendous pain in the area between the heart and the stomach, THE EXCACT PLACE WHERE THEY SHOT ME. To this day, I love hearing piano, violin and classical music. I also like dancing. Randomly I searched if the Grand Duchess Anastasia had these hobbies, and SHE DID.
I have been interested in the Romanov Family since I was a young girl. This woman's story is no more true than Anna Anderson. Maybe she was a servant or lived in Russia, but she was not Anastasia.
Hello, I'm the proper heir to the Russian Imperial throne. I'm the Great Grandson of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova who is buried in Australia. My mother doesn't care about being the Granddaughter of Grand Duchess Anastasia, She doesn't care about wealth or being Imperial Romanov. The reason I care is that some handyman bastard burgled my parents during Aug 1997 stealing all of my Great Grandmother's Russian/British/German Imperial family heirlooms over the value of 200 million dollars including her Imperial Romanov photo albums,Tsar's medals and so on.We now have nothing and we're struggling to survive. The Russian Federation / Orthodox leaders use propaganda / political repression against me while Maria Vladimirovna undermines me.I live in Cairns Australia.
HIH JOHN ROMANOV Hi, John Romanov, you can't be the Great Grandson of The Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova Because it is stated down that she died July 17, 1918 (aged 17) without any children. She was not married nor was it even stated down in any single country including Russia that The Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova births no heirs to the thrown. Also it is even proven and stated down that The Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova was buried in Peter and Paul Cathedral, Saint Petersburg, Russian Federation. It is more likely that you would be the great grandson of one of her older sisters. Mostly likely it would have been The Maria Nikolaevna Romanova or The Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna. But it can't be The Grand Duchess Anastasia. Including also if you are a relation to the family then to state the full facts you will have many of the illness's. For instance: painful bunions, which affected both of her big toes, a weak muscle in her back and was prescribed twice-weekly massage, Maria, reportedly hemorrhaged in December 1914 during an operation to remove her tonsils, Olga Alexandrovna said she believed all four of her nieces bled more than was normal and believed they were carriers of the hemophilia gene, like their mother, can have symptoms of hemophilia including a lower than normal blood clotting factor that can lead to heavy bleeding and DNA testing on the remains of the royal family proved conclusively in 2009 that Alexei suffered from Hemophilia B, a rarer form of the disease. His mother and sister Anastasia were carriers. Anastasia potentially would have passed on the disease if she had lived to have children. Anastasia, like all her family, doted on the long-awaited heir Tsarevich Alexei, or "Baby", who suffered frequent attacks of hemophilia and nearly died several times. So to conclude that you can't be a part of there family unless you have suffered or are a carried or have dealt with any of these for that would mean if you have you are with DNA testing a apart of their family. If not then stop lieing to yourself about being related to them. I promise you it will bring you no joy in life. Only depression.
Loki DarkRuler Laufeyson In case you missed it, they found Alexei and Maria's bodies 7 years ago.. None of the children survived, and none of the older Romanov daughters were married or had children.. This "John Romanov" guy is a total fraud and unfortunately not worth your (very detailed) history lesson..
Could the myth of survivors spring from the fact that Maria Feodorovna (the zar's mother) refused to accept that they were all killed. For the rest of her life she "pretended" they were still alive somewhere? And bless her for that - I think I would have done the same. It's uncomprehendable to loose five grandchildren in one blow
Why not skip testing questionable bones? Just compare the Prince Phillip mitochondrial DNA to a bloodline grandchild of Alina. Opps, that undermines the program's long build-up to a DNA "cliffhanger." What of unequivocal facial match & declaration "this is definitely Maria!" Opps, how inconvenient> Maria was 5'6" to 5'7" while Grannie Alina was 5'3"
I'm still disgusted with our king at the time changing his mind and not allowing his cousin and his family in the country..that's one part of our history I'm ashamed off...
The Two missing Royal Remains have been found in 2007 and they belong to Aleksey and Marie. And One thing I can never understand, If King George V was afraid that a revolution can break out if they took Tsar's family to England, then why couldn't he sent Tsar's family to any of their Colonies? They could've sent them to British Somaliland or British India (to the secluded Mountainous regions where they had Great Mansions to live in). England Simply betrayed them.
The one body that was missing in the grave was actually Maria's. Anastasia was always there with the rest of her family. The remains of Maria and Alexei were found years later.
Really? I wonder why they were found in different locations?
@@readytogo8533 They split up the graves so people who found the body's wouldn't think it was the Imperial family. It didn't work.
@Rodolfo Frías Huh? There's a pretty detailed protocol of the man in charge of the assassination and the disinterment of the imperial family was filmed... But some archeologist took some skulls earlier and then put them back later (in the 90s). Don't know how detailed their information is.
There were 2 missing bodies actually. Alexi and one of his sisters I believe.
There's no way to prove which of the sisters was buried in the larger mass grave. & which was buried with her brother Alexi, in the end it honestly doesn't matter. What matters is that they've all been found. & were able to be laid to rest properly.
I still find it terribly sad that the British king at the time could of saved his cousin who he was close to. He at first granted the family asylum in England, then due to political pressure he recounted the asylum 😓 so wrong
chelsea hulmston he was a coward. He let these young people die!
As far as I read somewhere they had actually preparations done to leave by ship to England but 2 or 3 of the girls and the boy had the measles and wasn’t fit enough to travel and later on king George did change his mind due to political issues arising in England
Relatives ... are TERRIBLE PEOPLE, VERY TERRIBLE .... I HAVE HAD MY OWN EXPERIENCES WITH 'RELATIVES' THAT WHEN I NEEDED THEM MOST, THEY DESERTED ME, BUT STRANGERS TOOK ME IN INSTEAD AND HELPED ME AND MY BABY ... THERE I S A GOD ! PRAISE HIS NAME FOREVERMORE
So afraid he was I bet , but blood should always be thicker than politics huh ?
Coward.
The song is sad & beautiful at the same time. Thank you so much for sharing. I followed the story of The Grand Duchess "Anastasia". Godspeed to the Czar & his family. This is one for the Ages! Bless you all & your Entourage.
I agree with you the song is amazing and heartbreaking 😭 I love it❤
+Sakura Miku....Thank you.
+Peggy Hill do you know the name of the song?
+Sakura Miku.....When I heard it, I knew I wanted to purchase it. After a lot of searching I found it on Google under the name of "Little Bells Peals." The cost was .99-1.25. It is sung by The Choir of Lenningrad Radio. I have also seen it called "The Little Bell" by Kremlin Capella. (I have never heard this version.) I could not find it. I do like the version I purchased from Google. I have seen the words to this song translated into English, as I don't speak Russian. It's a story that's as haunting & beautiful as it's music. If I can be more help please l let me know. Take care.
+Peggy Hill thank you so much 😢😭 🙏
Conspiracy theories are always interesting, especially when they're not easily answered, but most of the time the truth lies in the simplest explanation. In this case, it's that all tragically died in the cellar in 1918, and all are now buried in the Romanov mortuary room at the St. Peter and Paul Fortress in St. Petersburg.
Rest in peace Romanov Royal Family..it's a sad tragedy to happened to anyone.. no one should died like that..RIP.
💔sad! I am Related💔
I have seen several documentaries on this tragic event and I feel like their parents are at fault for the murder of their innocent kids. They didn't deserve this. But the tsar failed to take his responsibility seriously and his wife also failed to fulfill her duty. Because of their crappy leadership skills people didn't feel secure under their rule and slowly but surely their support for the tsar was lost. The tsar and his wife should have known better. It is very sad how the children were killed and I hope they all got the burial they deserved rather than being dumped and dismembered the way they were.
No, the Bolsheviks are at fault. They are the murderers. You can't victim blame.
Jenn H you know nothing. Be silent with your foolish mouth!
The Czar,was far thinking,he had introduced compulsory schooling for all children,this plan was continued by the Bolshies,so it must have been a good plan. The Bolshies were only looming for an excuse to gain power
Do not blame the parents either. No one deserves to die for that reason. Also, some people say they were dismembered and some don’t say that.
It's so sad that the Romanov's had to die in such a way, and Russia to this day has never been any better off for it.
The emperor Of Russia, was treated much better than the last Emperor of China; not to say Communism was cruel to both!
Many common Russians did literally starve to death under Romanovs
Such a horrible execution of this innocent family will cast a shadow over Russia for all eternity.
Jarek Loovali ..... Tsar Nicholas was out of touch with the reality of the lives of his people. He was a weak and ill prepared leader and doomed to fail. It’s a shame so many people suffered because he was so oblivious.
@@smc130 yes but you have to also remember he was in the middle of a nasty war too that didn't help
Looking at that woman's photos (especially as a young woman) and then looking at Anastasia's photos, you can tell they are not the same person. The faces are too different.
That's why I was surprised that it took those photo "experts" that long, and that much turning, flipping, sliding the pictures to conclude "oh, they are not the same person".
She looks more like Maria
Same thing applies with Anna Anderson
Something to keep in account when the Tsar & his Family were murdered he was by far the richest Man in the world. He was worth billions of dollars when he died in 1917 which would have been an amazing amount for someone to have back in that era. The vast majority of his financial holdings as far as actual money is concerned was kept in the Bank of England. Had by some chance one of his Daughters actually lived & escaped there was no way going forward the powers that be would have admitted she was of the Russian Royal Family as to do so that Daughter would be the sole heir to the late Tsar's vast fortune. All the late Tsar's money is still in England & to this day Royals in Europe related to the last Tsar of Russia by bloodline have been fighting over that fortune for nearly one hundred years. Could one of his Daughters actually escaped that blood bath in Siberia? Maybe & then again maybe not. That being said there were powerful forces all these years behind the scene that would ban together & claim fraud anytime a Woman would step up to claim she was the late Tsars' Daughter. This story will never really be closed.
They are all long dead. I'm just saying, if bolsheviks or any of the like in Russia even had the smallest inkling she would have made it out they would find and end her in short order. There were many people handling the bodies that night and I'm sure not everyone was drunk, those bodies were accounted for. I think the whole missing princess thing is just a fabrication and simple legend. The people claiming to be the girl are either crazy or want some cash, notice how all of them seemed to live long happy lives? If she made it out of there you bet your ass if it were me I would NEVER admit my real identity after seeing how my family was exterminated. That govt would for sure kill her if they knew she made it out. JMO. That Steve guy spouting the conspiratard bs is part of the problem. Let these people rest, they earned the right.
true but they could not all be the Grand Duchesses
Wonderful break down , you should've narrated and told this very story on youtube. I'm always impressed with young historians
@@WhtnyRs Either that or they would've ran to their grandmother (who was still alive until quite some time, who was still hopefully waiting for a letter from her son years after his death, which she never got or their aunts, all of whom they knew and could trust. The Romanovs *died* and people should please let it rest, the story is cruel and inhuman enough as is.
I never thought that any of the murderers would take the CHANCE to let any of the romanovs escape given the long odds of getting anyone out of russia especially a child. If anastasia ever turned up anywhere ALIVE the twelve murderers would suffer very slow deaths via the cheka or the kgb. Alexei being a haemophiliac could NEVER have survived being shot or bayonetted ONCE. I believe rumours of any escape would originate with the murderers trying to show some confidante or relative that they were NOT abject monsters
Anna Anderson could have escaped like she said. Maybe she was part of the family staff or a family member of one of the staff killed along with the family. She still would have been very scared I'm sure.
Anna Anderson was a Polish factory worker who sustained her injuries from an explosion in the factory. She looked nothing like ANY of the Grand Duchesses, except for the color of her blue eyes. I believe Anna Anderson was possessed by the earthbound spirit of the young Anastasia. which is why she knew things that were convincing.
Back in the day, it was not uncommon for an absolute monarch to "sow his royal oats"; that is to say produce illegitimate children as a means to back up his dynasty should anything happen to the royal family itself. The two persons whose remains were DNA tested in 2007 were most likely to have been "royal oats" that Nicholas II had sowed with any one of Alexandra's sisters.
There were many women who claimed to be Anastasia in the wake of the assassination of the Russian royals but only one woman had all the corroborative evidence that supported her claim. The main aspect of the denunciation of Anya Tchaikovsky, a.k.a Anna Anderson was the claim that she was an uneducated factory worker from Poland by the name of Franziska Schanzkowska who was five years older than the Grand Duchess Anastasia.
In the early 1990's a lab which analysed a DNA sample from Anna Anderson and declared her claim as fraudulent and she was in actual fact Franziska Schanzkowska. Strangely enough, Franziska's brother was the first to come forward and dispute the DNA result, stating his late sister did not have a mole removed from her chest, nor a deformed right toe; both of which the Grand Duchess had.
The self-styled Grand Duke, Cyril (and I say self-styled because the title of Grand Duke/Duchess is given only to the Tsar's children and grandchildren) offered Anderson a lavish income if she withdrew her claim that she was Anastasia. Cyril would never have done such a thing if he wasn't trying to bury something that he knew would cost him his share in the Romanov estate. As for Anastasia's grandmother the Empress Dowager Maria Feodorovna, she died before she had the chance to meet Anderson, to which she would have recognized as Anastasia. Cyril had to wait till Maria Feodorovna passed away before he could publicly denounce Anna Anderson as a fraud.
Anastasia was purportedly rescued by two brothers by the name of Tchaikovsky who took her to a doctor by the name of Sokholov, who treated her. There is, of course, no evidence of the existence of the brothers Tchaikovsky. In my opinion, all records of the two brothers had been destroyed at Lenin's behest considering that they had committed such a sin against the Party that warranted erasure from existence and making all mention of their names taboo, which was the most severe punishment an ancient ruler could inflict upon someone.
Also, the bunions on one's feet can be used to identify that one as reliably as fingerprints. No two persons can have exactly the same fingerprints on his/her hands and no two persons can have exactly the same bunions on his/her feet. The bunions on Anastasia's feet were exactly identical to those on Anna Anderson's feet, which would indicate Anastasia Romanov and Anna Anderson are one and the same. So more or less, the DNA that supposedly belonged to Anna Anderson had been switched with that of Franziska Schanzkowska at the behest of one or more of today's Romanovs, or for that matter someone from the Mountbatten household. Nonetheless, Franziska's brother disputed the result.
I didn't imply that Nicholas was sowing royal oats. I only expressed a theory, which everybody has a right to do.
What is fact is in 1927, Felix Schanzkowski, the brother of Franziska Schanzkowksa signed an affidavit stating Anna Anderson was not his brother. He also mentioned his sister had neither a deformed right toe nor a mole cauterized from her chest, which are the two things both Anna Anderson and Anastasia had. Foot bunions are just as reliable in identifying people as fingerprints are. The bunions on Anna Anderson's feet are exactly identical to those of Anastasia's.
The surviving Romanovs feared losing their shares in the estate of Nicholas II. By and large, the only evidence that didn't come up were fingerprints. Which was the standard of proof under German law in the 1920's. Also, the self proclaimed Grand Duke Cyril allegedly bribed witnesses and via a private detective by the name of Martin Knopf, became responsible for identifying Anderson as Franziska Schanzkowska. The canard of Franziska Schanzkowska had resurface several times in the '50's and '60's and in 1991.
You might want to google the words "Franziska Schanzkowska Canard". There have also been many allegations of a darker side of the House of Windsor driven by the Masonic values in which homosexual rape at the hands of male members of the Royal Family was not uncommon at Kensington Palace. And such underhanded dealings gave rise as to why Her late Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, never approved of her husband, George VI going to the Lodge, detesting Freemasonry and everything it stood for. Underhanded dealings in the House of Romanov had been documented in history too, including the assassination of Tsar Paul I.
Agreed that and anna is a distant relative of mine so fascinating
When I read Peter Kurth’s book decades ago, I became convinced that Anna Anderson was Anastasia. I grew up in N.C., Va and Md, so I remember hearing about her. Several members of her family absolutely believed her and she knew a lot of stuff that wasn’t widely known. I would have been apt to believe the DNA if they hadn’t gone that extra step to tie it to Franzseska. Also, Rasputin’s daughter thought so until they had a fight. I think AA’s demeanor was like royalty.
@@richfolkes yh ofc, the pious Orthodox man who stayed true to his wife to the very end because marriage is considered as holy was sowing royal oats (he was the Tsar for Christ's sake he could just have divorced her after the Rasputin rumors if he really wanted). Don't get me wrong, in regards to certain royal families its not uncommon but Nicholas simply wasn't the man who would. If he did, surely he would have chosen one of the illegitimate sons he fathered to inherit after him?
Stop ruining their good names and just accept it, they were mecilessly slaughtered by the leading Communist regime.
feeling sad... i hope their souls rest in peace... ;(
jom mar you need to see the whole story this is an opinion I belive Anistasia was murdered alone with her family. But you really should see it all
Why didn't they try to see if the photos of the grandfather matched any of the Imperial guards?
Or take mitochondrial DNA from Grandma Alina's children? It would have provided the same link...
I wondered that, too.
This is a most impressive documentary.
I so appreciate the thoroughness, and the music is quite emotional and perfect for this sad
story , a story of greed , power and murder .
How a soldier could be so cold blooded in murdering children is beyond me.
This tall grandson reminded me immediately of the czar's father, it gave me the chills... And yes the picture of her has the same expression of the mouth (lips) that Maria has in most of her Pictures! Also, the little bit she's holding in the picture (her younger son is the spitting image of kzars face, including his ears) Also gave me the chills! Why don't they submit themselves (the grandchildren) to the DNA test and compare with the kzar's family results?... It would be so easy!
💯 % agree!! I was thinking he was a spitting image of the czars father big and manly!! 😮 how could no one notice this!!!
This must be an older program as the remains of not only Maria Romanov but her little brother Alexei were found & identified using DNA analysis in July of 2007.
The area in which their bodies were found wasnt far from the mass grave that the remains of the rest of the family were recovered from in the early 1990's.
Something is fishy about the July 2007 situation. I think they might have put story out to the public and said they found the 2 bodies and DNA results matching, but they really didn't. A fabricated story. It makes zero sense as to why Maria and her little brother were in a different spot. Unless, Maria survived and so did Alexey and they hopped off the back of the truck and then got caught. Buried where they killed them. idk...it's just odd they weren't buried with the others. IF that was really them.
@@candysmith8724 they had shifted some of the bodies in 1918 and thrown them down a mineshaft.then thrown explosives in after them
This is driving me crazy! They keep going on about how important it is not to contaminate the remains while touching the bones without GLOVES!!!
Remember, the ones that did not die with the shooting were beat up and the girl that survived was said to have a horrible head injury. This would account to why should could not remember. It also takes her a long time to recover. She had a head/brain injury. It wasn't that she could not remember who she was but she was scared to say. She witnessed almost her complete family being murdered. That would scare a person into secret. We have known for a long time that one or two survived and for it to carry on for this long tells you that they did.
then I can also agree of this you Said, Sheryl Cambell, in this case of the missing Romanov. we were not there to see I witness of this. this brought me to a movie back of the 1970's version Of Anastasia, she the actress who played her said that she was the only alive and among her members what had happened to her. saying that she laid un conscientiously but the soldier came back saw her moving among her dead family and took her to a place hidden. and she was watched over while she recovered. she was taken over in America. she did not remember who she was and was given a name. please remember one of the soldiers could have given her a rifle but in the head. that gave her amnesia. than perhaps recovered her memory. in the film, she was saying she was the last daughter of the tsar. of Russia reclaimed her name, Anastasia after her memory had come back. but the people over in America did not believe that she was the tsar last daughter. this could have some significance to this again she could of been the Tsar daughter. I would kinda hope of this horric act that she survived this everything is always poltical of this
sheryl campbell no one survived. The remains of the daughter and son were found in the early 2000’s. They had hacked them apart and burned the bodies. DNA tests proves they were the remaining daughter and the son.
emily cheetham I remember the News reports on it , it was all over the news for almost two to three weeks.
THIS!!
Years ago, when I was much younger, I absolutely loved the animated film Anastasia, but I was old enough to find out about the true story behind the movie. I was curious, as many young children are, and I found this video. Fascinated by the story I watched part of this video, up until the reenactment of the families deaths.
I haven’t watched Anastasia since.
Other than childhood trauma, watching this video again is horribly fascinating, and the video is extremely well done! I grieve for the Romanov family, but History can be brutal.
I ve never seen Anastasia because strangers won t let me take their kids to the movies because I m not Michael jackson. How did Disney handle the ipatiev house
@@davidhallett8783It wasn’t Disney. They didn’t show it. It was just implied the family died. They only show the family escaping the palace and that’s it.
R.I.P. Anastasia Romanov and her family. Hopefully one day the world will find out what truly happened that fatefull night.
They know, don't they? They have all the bodies identified, and from the evidence gleaned from the study of them and from using contemporary written accounts from the killers, etc, they have put togther a sturdy account of what happened.
MrFredSed1 -- No, they do NOT have all the bodies identified. Two are missing. That said ... yes, it's hard counter all the witness accounts.
sadly, they do... they were found after this movie was made.
MrFredSed Except for the point made above that the DNA from the two found bodies was apparently quickly and easily extracted and identified when considering what happened to the remains uncontaminated usable DNA would have been difficult if not impossible to extract. The remains had been burned and acid doused and kept for 90 years in dirt exposed to all kinds of weather and possibly animals digging them up. It dies seem strange how easily, neatly and quickly the Russian government got the results that benefitted them.
Imagine a world where everything you were taught turned out to be falsehoods.. Be skeptical..
Tsar Nicholas II, Alexandra, their four daughters - grand duchesses Anastasia, Maria, Olga and Tatiana - their son the Tsarevich Alexei and four royal staff members were murdered in the cellar of a house in Yekaterinburg in 1918.
One night they were lined up as if for a family photo, and then a Bolshevik firing squad killed them in a hail of bullets, according to witness accounts. Those who did not die immediately were bayonetted.
The royal couple and three daughters were formally reburied on 17 July 1998 - the 80th anniversary of the murder. They were canonised by the Russian Orthodox Church in 2000.
Alexei and Maria are also likely to be canonised before the 100th anniversary in 2018. Their remains are currently kept at the Russian State Archives.
You forgot their daughter Andrina. X
+MsJenn1985 there were only 4 daughters, and none of them were named Andrina. It was Olga, Maria, Tatiana, and Anastasia.
+MsJenn1985 first off it's not "Andrina" it's Andreevna, and secondly, she was not one of the
Tsar's daughters.
Princess Olga Andreevna Romanoff (born 8 April 1950) is a Russian
princess and descendant of the House of Romanov.
She was born in London the daughter of Prince Andrei Alexandrovich of
Russia and his second wife Nadine Sylvia Ada McDougall (1908-2000). Her
father was the son of Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna, sister of Tsar
Nicholas II.
She was born a full 33 years AFTER the Tsar, Tsarina and their family
were murdered.
I know u believe that all the remains were found, but the description says the remains were found in 2007 and that it's strange how easy it was to identify them. Do u not think it's strange that granny Alina's remains we're contaminated and they lay in a ground for 30 odd years but the Romanov weren't and they lay there for 90 odd years and also were badly burned. Also the fact Alina and Maria are one in the same. I wouldn't believe everything scientists say
I know about Anastasia the last grand duchesses of russia her mother is from England but she marries the Russian she have a brother named Alexia I don't know that the hole family has died but I am still reading the book I took that from the library
Is this documentary serious? anyone with eyes would know this isnt true. Just look at the pictures of Anastasia when she was a teenager and the images they show when she was "in her early twenties with her children" its obbviously not her...just look at the face features.
did you not watch the whole thing? they discovered that it was Maria not Anastasia
I didnt actually, I should have watched the whole thing before commenting. My bad. :S
Drew Hart
both died in the execution. bones were found later on ..
Didn't you see the whole documentary? They eventually came up with the conclusion towards the end that when comparing the old lady's face with Anastasia's sister, Maria, that Maria's face more closely fit the face of the old lady. Because of the contamination of the old lady's bones, the test results were inconclusive as to whether her DNA matched the Romanov family's DNA. However, because of the descriptive and empowering piece of evidence from the story of how the old lady escaped and how that strongly correlated to descriptions given publicly 30 years later from other witnesses at the scene, and of how both the grand duchess Maria's face strikingly resembles the face of the old lady, they decided that it was safe to say that the old lady was most likely Maria and that the grand duchess who escaped from the truck that night was not Anastasia, but was Maria.
charlottesasaki But wait... if she was related to the Romanovs... then wouldn't they be able to test the DNA of the grandchildren who apparently came forth? I dunno... highly suspicious.
The lady on the left at 27:46 reconstructed Richard III's face and did the facial reconstructions for BBC's "Historic Cold Case".
Oh for goodness sake, the Imperial family were all murdered that dreadful night. As if anybody could have escaped that bloodshed...and DNA have accounted for all family members. RIP Romanov family.
they were wearing those corsets because they thought they were gonna be rescued and had sewed their jewelry into them essentially wearing the world's most expensive bulletproof vest
Anistasia died with the others. they were all woken up by a couple of maids and were told they were moving to a safer place but they were put in the cellar and some guards came in and said "we're going to execute you now" and the father could only say "what" and take a look at his family before they were brutally murdered. the smoke was so thick but once it finally cleared they saw Anistasia and Maria in the corner huddled in fear. the guards shot them. these guards were an assassination group. theres no way they were going to miss one. they put acid on the body's to get rid of the evidence and they dumped the remains in the forest. Anistasia sadly didn't, or couldnt have survived the assassination. it's horrible that the children had to suffer from mistakes the parents made. and tbh the parents did nothing it was mostly Rasputin. >and no I'm not whatching the whole thing because I dont believe one of the girls could have escaped
Same. They were all killed that night, there is no mystery. The hags claiming to be that poor girl should be ashamed of themselves imo. People always have to turn things like this into some conspiratard bullshit.
Fare enough. That of course is a very sound opinion. The documentary goes on to dig into their claims. Did you get up to where Oxford University tested the mtDNA. Also Sheffield University created a number of facial reconstruction. Nation Geographic said the documentary was one of the best examples of storytelling. It also won the Investigative Journalism Award at WorldFest Houston International Film Festival and a finalist in the New York Film Festival.
A very bas assassination group. Drunk and botched the whole thing.
Olga was the eldest born in 1895 and was the Tsars favorite daughter
Not true. Nicholas didn't openly have a favourite. Though Yakov Yuronsky and Peter Ermakov determined seperately by observing the Emperor with his children that Maria was 'the Emperors great favourite'.
@@jamiemohan2049 one documentary says Anastasia was his favorite cause she was like a tomboy and did stuff outside with him. 🤷🏻♂️
Olga has always been Nicholas' favorite. She was most like her father both in appearance and character. She was very intelligent and loved spending time on long conversations with her father. A definite daddy's daughter who did not like her mother. The Tsar always invited her to his office to discuss politics.
But then Maria was strongly spurned by her siblings. The older sisters did not want to play with her because they thought she was stupid and clumsy. Olga and Tatiana were very close to each other. Anastasia also liked to spend time with Alexei much more than with Maria, because she was too quiet and meek. Her brother was just as mischievous as she was, so they could fool around together. Nicholas decided to somehow compensate Maria for this situation, in return making her someone like his favorite. After that, he spent a lot of time with her.
I think Olga was the most like Alexandra, so I can understand why Nicholas would be especially close to her.
Anastasia is the most famous of all the Grand Duchesses because for a long time it was thought that she was the one to survive; also, there were two prominent cases of impostors claiming to be her which is probably what contributed the most to her fame. I read a lot about the Romanov's recently and to be honest, apart from that there isn't anything that really stands out about her to me. She was kind of a brat and one time put a rock in a snowball before throwing it at one of her sisters. I personally like her older sister Maria a lot better, who was stunningly beautiful and very kind and peaceful. She is more of an embodiment of what I feel most people think of when they think 'Anastasia Romanov'; not in person, but definitely in spirit and essence.
There is no reason to be rude about her character by calling her a brat. She was a child and if her personality was as you make it out to be, she was never given a chance to grow and learn. Let the girl Rest In Peace and remember that there is no need to speak negatively about a deceased person.
I think Anastasia liked to play rough, but I don’t think she was exactly a brat.
Yes, optimistically Gramma Alina has an uncanny resemblance to Grand Duchess Maria. But if she had two children with this Frank Guy who was 37 yrs. older than she. Maybe Maria did marry one of her loyal guards after all??? I would love to believe that perhaps one did escape, but it wasn't Anastasia; she's verified dead. The strange thing that is intriguing in all this is two sons of Princess Maria by Frank her body guard. What ever happened to those two sons & where the hell are they buried or cremated???? They seem to be the whole key to establishing & ending this mystery after nearly a century after that horrible night of assassination of the family, Dr. Botkin & three other servants. Albert dies of leukemia in 1997. Does his blood or DNA match with any of the known findings of the original Tzar Nicholas & his immediate family or even possibly Prince Phillip who is still with us at 95 yrs. young????RMA; Bakersfield, Ca....
Roger Angress
He wouldn't match. Mitacondrial DNA is passed from mother to her children, but only female children carry on that line. Man passes y chromosome DNA to his children, but like woman to daughter only male children carry on that line.
would really love to watch this without the opera playing over the narrators voice....
"His fate is not for this program"
AW COME ON!
Yeah, did they imply that he and Ana survived on that truck?
It's very interesting knowing what we know now, to get to see what people in the past believed.
Did they think to check the mitochondrial DNA of Granny Elena's children? Male or female, their mitochondrial DNA would match the existing documented samples if she is indeed Maria.
the problem I see is that from her photo she doesn`t look like Anastasia or maria or any of the other Romanovs,maybe she was related somehow,who knows?
The mitochondrial DNA would be definitive, I think.
Now someone's using their forensic noggin. With all the world's expert on the case it takes you to figured that out what a stroke of genius - Scotland should be knocking on your door!
Sue Ton Thanks, Sue Ton. After realizing this, doesn't it seem strange that they didn't try this approach? It should have been obvious to them.
why they didn't check the mitochondrial DNA of Granny Elena's children?
Probably they comes from the idea that the children may not be her children or something like this. Or maybe someone doesn't want to reveal the truth .
Dark midnight in July in Siberia? This is an big error. Nights during the summertime are really light. This is a fact and all people living in North Europe, North Russia, Canada etc know this. Can be noticed of course in Alaska as well.
the "White Nights" in St. Petersburg
Who knows one just might have survived - however we will never ever be allowed to know the truth - Royal Families and Authorities together for whatever reason will see to that - we only really find out what it suits them for us to find out so you just have to use your gut feeling to decide what you want to believe - personally i think one daughter did survive but for this to have been revealed disclosed or acknowledged would have opened a can of worms "they" never wanted opened
Another romanticized version of history. They didn't make any mention of the execution with the family of the family's doctor and maid. Play a bit of haunting music and a re-enactment and it becomes history. They should have explained how the family got there in the first place. Or would that spoil the story?
jack hackett I
That was wild! 😂 I hope that family find out the truth about their grandmother now. Her invading the law by being in South Africa illegally, living in an illegal a biracial relationship and having a midnight secret burial indicate she must have had an interesting life even if it wasn’t a royal one.
Evading the law in english
@@davidhallett8783
Are you the spelling police? It is maddening, and a waste of time, to keep opening comments only to find that it is you, correcting someone else's spelling.
I realize what is meant, even with the error, and I am willing to overlook it.
Continuously checking comments that have nothing to offer pertaining to the subject matter is an exercise in futility.
I have seen this video.. After viewing it I scoured the web for photographs of Maria in a similar pose to the only existing photograph of Granny A as a young woman.. I found 7 photos that I could use and overlayed them on different photoshop layers adjusting the transparency of each layer to get an accurate scale match... the results are uncanny...
not only do the feature positions match, even the subtle carve of nose, nostril shapes, pout of mouth, form of cheeks, chin shape and relative position to mouth... if Granny Alina is not Maria R, then it is a very strange coincidence in itself, let alone the other information offered in the documentary.. i:e: Granny A never said she was Anastasia, that she described details surrounding her escape that were only made public in the 1980's decades after her own accounts, that her presumed husband also bears a striking resemblence to one of the the Romanovs private guard (who would have sworn life-long loyalty to the family)... etc.. I personally feel it is highly likely that Granny A is the Grand Duchess
She is not, they found Anastasia's remains
it can never be sure, if it's confirmed by Russian government, especially when they have zero interests in finding the heir of the Czar who could claim back all their assets.
Vincent Lewis Why weren’t Granny Elena’s children and grandchildren also given DNA tests? Could they too have been matched with that of Prince Phillips family line?
+Paula Abrams Silver 1. The kids had died. 2. They may not have been biologically hers. 3. It's unknown if her grand kids refuse to give DNA or are not allowed too. Also the 2007 'remains' in question may not be the missing Romanov children anyway. It is virtually impossible to extract DNA off of severely chemically burned remains that are lying in a harsh environment for 90+ years. Many other scientists have criticised and even laughed that the 'remains' were identified and also too quickly and easily. The Russian government has an agenda and regardless of what is true or not they want all Romanovs to be dead. All the Romanovs likely did perish, but I severely doubt the fragments are really them. So many twists, turns, changing stories in this case.
Yugirii can you not read?? She said MARIA not Ana
shooting with rifles in a room and still not dead because of the corsets of diamonds and gold. They must have been a lot of diamonds that the corsets become a Protection waistcoat to get the bullets away.
Actually, the Tsar and his family were murdered with handguns. (Mauser Broomhandles and Nagant revolvers.) The stories of the girl's corsets containing gold and diamonds, let alone enough to stop bullets, is ludicrous.
HotCuppaCoffee I see, that what I was wondering.
Don't forget, the guns used weren't as good then as they were today....
this is true .. terrible thinking how bad that must be for all of them and not only for the victims.
MewTangerine I must protest, they more than likely where shooting a Mosin Nagant which is a 7.62 x 54r caliber. An extremely lethal round up to 1000 yards, or farther in the right hands. Great rifle indeed and extremely cheap on the resale market. I got mine for $129!
There's a version of that in the Philippines. There was a Russian woman out of nowhere who came to the Philippines and no one knew where she was from. They suspect she's from a royal family and they said there was a lof of resemblance between her and Anastasia.
Saw that one. The Russian woman in the photo didn't have any resemblance whatsoever to Anastasia or the other sisters
I think the idea of the lost princess being Maria not Anastacia is absolutely fascinating. As for little Alexi it seems unlikely he would have lived much longer anyway.
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Russian investigators have exhumed the remains of the last tsar and his wife, as they re-examine their 1918 murders. Samples were taken from Tsar Nicholas II, his wife Alexandra, and from the bloodstained uniform of Alexander II, Nicholas's grandfather, killed in 1881.The Romanov family members, who were killed by revolutionary Bolsheviks, are buried at a St Petersburg cathedral. The Orthodox Church wants to confirm family links before other relatives can be reburied with them.The long-running murder case had been closed in 1998, after DNA tests authenticated the Romanov remains found in a mass grave in the Urals in 1991. But the DNA tests did not convince some Russian Orthodox Church members, because the remains of two - Tsarevich Alexei and Grand Duchess Maria - were found only in 2007, at a different spot in the Urals. The Investigative Committee, a state body, says new checks are needed in order to authenticate the remains of those two.
Between 1973 -75 I met a lady in Hendon NW4 UK, an old lady called Natalia Avoutin. I met her several times, she told me the whole story, one of which I never ever had a clue about. She showed me a linen bag that contained a lot of what was like valuable things, broaches, necklaces, rings. Among them were several documents, a letter, a folded seal embossed document some photos. The handwriting was not English looked Russian, I cannot say. She told me her real name was Anastasia she told me she was told by her father she was going away, and was taken by strangers, hidden for years. Then taken to England. She died I believe around 1979. I recall her telling me her story but my lack of background on it perhaps never clicked for several years.
+John Townsend Con artist. It's easy for people to loot the scene of he murder and claim to be Anastasia or anyone else.
+NOYB S It may have been, but she was a very lonely old lady, who spoke with fractured English. It was a chance meeting, I lived in a nearby road helped her carry something to her lower part of a house that she rented. She could easy be called a con artist if she was conning, she did none of that. Just an old lady with some items of her past,
and as far as I know she died that way.
John, other women claimed to be Anastasia including Anna Anderson who I believe died in Virginia. The real girl was killed in 1918 and her remains were found in 2009. Anyone could loot the scene of the murder and claim those things to originally be theirs. An old lady claiming to be the princess who happens to speak broken English isn't enough proof. Just sayin.
+NOYB S Their remains were actually found two years prior to that in 2007. I remember there being a big hoopla with my family because my mother had believed Anna Anderson to be legit (she still does in spite of the DNA results) Anastasia or Maria was seen to be missing along with the only son of the tsar. It was never determined which daughter it was. Only that it was one of the younger two. For whatever reason people decided it was Anastasia or Natasyia (as her family called her). You are right though. As exciting and amazing as it would be had this old lady turned out to be the duches, it's not possible as all 6 of the last Russian Imperial family are now accounted for
DNA has proven ALL of the children & their parents were indeed killed that night. the only question here is whether the woman lied and her grandchildren honestly believe what is simply not true, or the grandchildren are the liars. either way, someone's lying.
And testing their mitochondrial DNA would put it to rest.
probably she was one of the servants and fantasised to be the Duchess, hmmm
Or the Russian government lies about this matter, which is just the most common pattern of their's
Did anyone check out the maid? She would have known the details of the murders,as did Elena. Maybe they didn't kill her because she wasn't royal.Just saying.
The maid survived the longest, but was killed.
All the servants were killed,and identified.they are now interred with the family in the cathedral
The mystery of Anastasia had always fascinated me. I feel like the 1997 adaption was quite an insult to her memory. they made it sound like a great magic adventure but when infact she and her family were brutally murdered.
the late William maples who examined the remains of the Romanovs came to the conclusion that it was Anastasia and Alexei that were missing ,maria`s remains was present in the mass grave.
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Alinas grandson looks very much like tsar Nicholas father....
I was thinking that! Same build as the Tsars Uncle - the one they called Nickolasha
I know it's after the fact, but here would have been my big problem with the so-called anecdotal evidence.
We've been told Granny Alina told that story well before the official reports came out, but the story is being told second-hand, and told *after* the official reports came out. Just because they say that's the story Granny Alina told doesn't mean it's true. I'll be charitable and not accuse them of deliberate misrepresentation for profit (although to be honest, that would be my first inclination -- I don't buy the whole 'let's unite Russia' bit in the slightest) but the fact is, there's a reason hearsay isn't good evidence.
Memory is unreliable, and it's been years since either man heard the story. It's entirely possible they heard of the updated account and 'remembered' the detail about the fat woman, or even that one 'remembered' and prompted the other in recollections. People do that all the time -- in fact, there's an experiment on the program Brain Games that demonstrates just how memory can be corrupted among a group of people.
Also, just because 'Granny Alina' got scared and hid at the sight of police, that's not conclusive, either. There is such a thing as paranoia and delusions.
The documentary's very well done, but personally, I wouldn't find their investigations credible in the slightest. The biggest black mark of all is that they state that they're *going to prove* their grandmother's claim - not that they're going to investigate whether it was true or not. If it's the former, the inclination is to ignore all evidence to the contrary. If it's the latter, you're evaluating whether there's truth and you're more likely to be an unbiased judge of facts.
Thank you for sharing and it's much appreciated. :)
The facial recognition is uncanny
Nocturnal Rites thanks for your comments. Very good observation and many are valid. But your suggestion they did it for profit. I assume you are talking about the Tzars wealth. That they were after that. At first glance you could think that, but they would never have had a chance legally against the Russians. These were poor people that didn’t have the resources to mount a legal claim BBC against the Russian Government.
Also I think you’ll find we say PROVE HER CLAIM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
Not to twist the evidence to prove her story. Look, fair go, all we have done is present the evidence. It up to you to decide. I think it’s unfair to suggest the film makers were anything other than straight.
Fare enough. That of course is a very sound opinion. The documentary goes on to dig into their claims. Did you get up to where Oxford University tested the mtDNA. Also Sheffield University created a number of facial reconstruction. Nation Geographic said the documentary was one of the best examples of storytelling. It also won the Investigative Journalism Award at WorldFest Houston International Film Festival and a finalist in the New York Film Festival.
We don’t say we are going to prove anything. We quote the 2 men saying ‘we are going to prove’ but the narrative of the documentary does not.
Interesting that the man who seems turned out to be "Marie's" grandson? strikes a remarkable resemblance to Alexander III not to mention that Alex III was over 6 ft tall and the grandson? is a very large man.. also the large ears and placement of them
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That's what I was thinking all along - that he bore an uncanny resemblance to King George AND Czar Nicholas. I can even see Prince Harry's face in his!
And also, the younger son on that family photo has very similar features to Czar Nicholas
I was thinking he looked exactly like Nicholas ll
Russian investigators have exhumed the remains of the last tsar and his wife, as they re-examine their 1918 murders.
Samples were taken from Tsar Nicholas II, his wife Alexandra, and from the bloodstained uniform of Alexander II, Nicholas's grandfather, killed in 1881.
The Romanov family members, who were killed by revolutionary Bolsheviks, are buried at a St Petersburg cathedral.
The Orthodox Church wants to confirm family links before other relatives can be reburied with them.
Certain senior members of the Russian Orthodox Church is the issue. This is the main reason as to why the funeral of the children hasn't happened yet. These members of the church still have doubt (or are refusing to believe) that these are in fact the remains of the Grand Duchess and the Tsarevich. Despite conclusive DNA results conducted by the US and Russia positively identifying the remains to be them. So the Russian Government have allowed further testing to be done. But the results for this (hopefully final batch of results) will be released in June this year.
I agree, it is beyond frustrating. I just wish that these people would stop hindering the rightful burial process of this children and finally allow their remains to be rightfully laid to rest alongside the rest of their family. I pray that they will come 2018.
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It is extremely interesting that rumour at the time (recorded by investigator Sokolov in 1923) had it that Alexis was spared and taken by one of the assassins as his 'house boy' - and that (although official accounts had him buried with his family) his body was not found with the others.
the husband and guard look so alike... it could be... nothing is impossible.
it might be her but perhaps the birth mother is not the tsar s wife. that also can be a possibility. the grandson dying of leukemia is a strange coincidence. may they are rest in peace,and may all these dumb revolutions stop. and for what we know this lady might have been maria, and maybe the tsar s mistress had a baby at the same time and these babies switched at birth. so maybe the real grand duchess lived her life as a peasant. anyways it s so sad.
Well, In the dark of the night evil will find her
This is a truth that will never be known, interested in this story as I am in Russia currently and I am learning alot from their history... honestly, honestly I hope that Anastasia or at least one of the Romanov family survived but I doubt it... RIP Romanov family...
He knows he is lying, and you can see it on his face. She knew that she was placed in a truck. She knew that there were an old lady. She knew that she went to Poland. She knew that she had kinfolk in Germany. She knew about being placed in a wooden box and heard folk fighting and shooting. YES, SHE IS THE REAL THING, BUT THE QUEEN IS DOING WHAT SHE DOES BEST. It is impossible to kill off a dynasty and the head of the illuminati or the Council of 13, the Monarch of England, not know about it. They call all the shots!
I hate to say it,but to me I don't think anyone survived this.Although deep down in me I want to believe that one just one of them made it out alive.But sadly we will never know the full story of this.I Hate to say that no one made it.
Unfortunately, mitochondrial DNA has proven they were all slaughtered. Terrible.
@@OOMackica , only if you believe the Russians. I don't trust them.
Alina actually looked like Grand Duchess Maria.
@@casperendicott6861 Russia, the USA and the UK you mean.
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Seems to me that had one of the Grand Duchesses been smuggled out of Russia in a crate, as Alina's story goes, been brought to Poland and later to Berlin where she was helped by an unnamed baron, said baron - no doubt a friend or relative - and all the nobility of Germany and Great Britain would have embraced and protected her - not sent her off to live in anonymity in South Africa. Just saying' . . .
No, I 'know' that Czar Nicholas asked for asylum in England, but was refused by his cousin? King George who feared reprisals against England. So, the Royal Family of Russia would not have been welcomed by the Royal Family of England. King George basically expected Czar Nicholas to face the music in his own country.
Robyne J True, the British royals did not extend a warm and welcoming refuge to their Russian cousins (I've read variations on this), but there were plenty of other royal relatives scattered throughout Europe, Romanovs among them. All theories about those beautiful duchesses surviving such brutality are intriguing but I find them far fetched and am not (yet) convinced any of the girls survived the Bolshevik Revolution.
@@MissMadeleine9 Undoubtedly the Netherlands would have taken her in if that happened tbf
@@MissMadeleine9Ultimately George V was very hospitable to his aunt and cousins. Unfortunately he lacked the foresight to realize that Nicholas and Alexandra were in danger.
There were 2 graves. Alexei and Maria in one and the 9 in the other. The Russians have shown that Anastasia died in the first grave. The first grave contained 9 bodies 8 females 1 male, the second grave not discovered till recently contained the missing Maria and Alexei and their dna was matched.
6 females and 5 males were apparently killed. So 5 females and 4 males were in the first grave and Alexei and another sister whose exact identity is unknown and still up for debate. That is if u believe all died though and the original story. However a case this high profiled could easily have been a cover up and had evidence planted. The assassins account kept changing. It is impossible to get DNA out of remains severely chemically burned and lying in the ground for 90 odd years. The biggest mystery is how they 'identified' these remains. The Russians would benefit if all died that night.
+amity amity they said they got DNA off the 'remains' and 'identified' them. The only problem is it's impossible to get DNA off of bones buried for 90 odd years, lying in a harsh environment and also severely chemically burned and mutilated. Ask anyone who has studied biology and they will laugh like I did when they 'identified' them. The biggest mystery is how they 'identified' the 'remains'. Read the description that comes with the video it explains it well, nobody seems to have read it, it's all in the description with the vid!
so the lost princess was actually maria not anastasia?
+TheJoker it would make the most sense. Most historians never really give Maria much attention, not until the Russians believe she was the one missing. Who was lost? It was either Maria or Anastasia but it can't be determined which one.
the fact that maria matched made me think of the guard who sent her a cake.... that would make for a reason someone would rescue her it was a reason that she had fallen in love and the oppertunity presented itself???!!! idk wishful thinking that her soldier rescued her.... this is just another sad record of our mistreament on each other horrible human kind
what a horrible way to die! the poor girls knowing whats going on while they slowly die and are beaten to death. so sad. R.I.P.
I think it is the little princess because her son look so much like his grandfather. He also died young. I wish it is her knowing she survived makes me feel better.
Why don't they test the DNA of a grandson? the 1 who died of leukaemia.
Exactly!
Because all the bodies were found
+Callan Rogers Coz then they wouldn't have had an excuse to make an hour and a quarter documentary, or treated their appallingly flimsy evidence as proof of Maria surviving.
Wow! What an interesting documentary...very eye-opening and full of details. I actually was looking more for the history of the Romanovs and how they came to be such a mystery, but I think this documentary did provide some inside into their mystery and then some scientific research that was amazing to me. Thanks for uploading!
Some insight into their mystery. In english
I personally think that she was one of the servants who was with the Royal Family on that night. I think she was there and knew who'd done it, hence her fear and silence all the rest of her life.
Unlikely if the bullets pierced the flesh and were cushioned from impact with the bones by fleshy organs.
If they really wanted to know if they grandmother was anatasia wouldnt of they just asked her about her life before her family was killed and see if it matched up with history?
No, in that case there would not be a whole documentary about it.
LOL. Exactly. Even for a conspiracy junkie like myself this documentary is a whole load of bull crap.
Maybe she was a member of royality in another country?
There i no doubt in my mind that Anastasia did in fact die with her family & yet people keep thinking she's alive.
I just kept waiting for Dimitri to come into the story. lol Get it? From the 1997 animated movie?
+Katie Proctor Actually, there was a Dimitri. He was the son of a kitchen worker and Alexei's best friend. ( They were around the same age.) It was said that he did go to the house of special purpose with the Romanovs, but weeks before the execution, when a changing of the guard was made, before the switch Alexei told Dimitri and his dad to get out while they could. They did, though no one knows what happened to them after.
+Yesterdaysmaybe Wow
Cute.
Well, there was a kitchen boy, Yesterdaysmaybe, and he was Alexei's friend, but his name was not Dimitri. And Alexei didn't tell him to get out while he could; the Bolshies sent him away the day before the shooting, promising to bring him back, saying his Uncle (who they had already killed) wanted to see him. No one knows what happened to him after that.
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If Anastasia was remade Dimitri was the favourite cousin of Czar Nicholas II and betrothed to Olga.
Granny Elena doesn't look like Anastasia at all. She could have passed for Maria. Poor Albert. He was a good person. Glad he didn't live to see that ALL the Romanovs died on that horrible night in 1918
As of 2007, all of the victims' remains have been recovered and are accounted for. None of the prisoners made it out alive that night.
Maria would've ,if she'd just stayed quiet. In Yurovsky's journal, he says that as they loaded the bodies, Maria sat upright and began screaming until one of the mean began hitting her face in with the butt if their rifle until she was silenced. If only she'd stayed quiet.
Also Anastasia spoke French, Russian, as well as English. Since The Tsar’s German was poor & the Empress’ Russian was even worse. Alix spent much of her childhood in England as the favorite grandchild of Queen Victoria so Alix spoke English like a native as did Nicholas; so The Tsar & Empress spoke English -their best common language- and within the family they all spoke English to each other. Could Granny Alina speak French fluently & speak English fluently? If not, she couldn’t have been Anastasia. But then we already know definitively that Anastasia died with her family in Ekaterinburg. Too many aspects of Granny Alina’s story don’t make sense & conflict with the known, verified facts.
I understand that Nicholas spoke exquisite German, and Alexandra spoke competent Russian.
This family tragedy always gets to me. It makes me sad seeing a whole family get executed particularly of Alexei and Anastacia, who were children. How I wish they all lived to old age and how I wish the Russian monarchy remains to this day. How cool would that be?
Yeah, and look what followed the monster, Stalin!!
Don t forget the czars were monsters too and their ministers with the russian soldiers often going into battle unarmed with orders to pick up fallen comrades rifles and ammo. And terrible disorganized pyrrhic battles with the germans where towards the end of both wars generals and other officers were being assassinated BY THEIR oWN MEN for wasting their men s lives. From 1905 to 1917 the army and the police were given orders to KILL unarmed protesters who had the nerve to complain they were STARVING. Just like the french revolution and germany after nov 1918
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The account of Granny Alina saying she escaped on the back of a truck and there was "a fat old lady" (which were details not revealed for many years) along with the facial reconstruction is rather compelling for the case that this woman was Maria Romanov. At 1:04:17 I find a remarkable match to my eye, so I tend to believe it. Interesting.
But the DNA tests did not convince some Russian Orthodox Church members, because the remains of two - Tsarevich Alexei and Grand Duchess Maria - were found only in 2007, at a different spot in the Urals.
The Investigative Committee, a state body, says new checks are needed in order to authenticate the remains of those two.
Russia plans to rebury Alexei and Maria alongside the rest of the family in St Petersburg's Peter and Paul Cathedral. But for that to happen the Church wants to be certain about the remains.
This doco was made in the mid 1990s. Computer modelling wouldn't make any difference to the DNA results as the samples were so badly contaminated.
HBB..Harry explain to these people in what capacity were you ever involved in this investigation". I followed various publications and none of them reveal that you and or so called society ever provided any"expert" assistance. On that note, could you outline your credentials that make you an expert? And here is a question for everyone, why would the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian Government would seek the help of an outsider? They have their own experts.
HBB..In your link, you only proved that Russian Orthodox Church wants to authenticate that the bones are truly the remains of the Tsarevich and his sister. Nothing more, nothing less. No where does it say that the Russian Orthodox Church is aware of some so called rescue of the Romanov. Why are the Romanovs venerated as Holy Martyrs by the Church? Nothing but pulp fiction. And you sir are a contributor to this disgraceful fantasy.
HBB, thanks for this link as welll.
Is it that the DNA was so badly contaminated or something more sinister and why at this stage of the game?
What occupies me more whether or not the old lady was a Romanov: She was a Russian emigrant, so she had a sad history behind, and I hope she found happiness later in life.
Maybe the bodies of Alexie & Anastasia / Maria that was found in the separate grave near where the Romanov Royal Family were shot were actually bodies of two Teenagers that were from the Royal Court that were Romanov by Blood Anastasia, Maria. Tatiana, Olga, Alexandria, Nicholas & Alexie wasn't the only royalty in Imperial Russia there were other Romanov Royalty that were in the royal court that could of been of killed to cover up Maria's & Alexie's Escape in the Russian Revolution I now believe this that Alexie & Maria really escaped so to cover up the evidence they were still alive & escaped... maybe they killed teenagers from the Royal Court instead of Alexie & Maria.... I believe Maria & Alexie Escaped & Granny Alina was really the Russian Princess Maria who escaped living as a commoner in South Africa as a Horse Shoe Blacks-Smith.....
When thee Bolsheviks killed the Tzar and his family they also killed their servants and companions which could have included young teenagers. So you could be right.
I reckon that if they really killed Alexie & Maria all in one night why did the Bolsheviks make two separate graves for the Russian Royal Family why weren't all their bodies buried altogether if they all died in one night Alexie & Maria escaped they must of killed two teenagers from the royal court & used them to prove that they killed Alexie & Maria & buried the two teenagers from the russian royal court in a separate grave when they didn't kill Maria & Alexie at all.....they escaped
Question is did the skulls of the Identified Romanov Alexie & Maria found in the separate grave actually match up with The Real Alexie & Maria... Like Granny Alina facial characteristics matched exactly with Princess Maria how do they know that an teenage boy & girl in the Russian/German royal court wasn't used to cover up the evidence that Alexie & Maria Escaped & was the skulls of the Two POSSIBLE ROMANOV Teenagers found in the separate grave have the same skull or facial characteristics as Alexie & Maria?
What if there was German relatives of Tsarina Alexandria from the Royal Court of Germany that also got married into Russian Royal Court that were relatives of Tzar Nicholas in the Royal Russian Court likeA German Princess Alexandria Married a Russian Prince Nicky & had families together there could of been Russian & German Relatives of the tsar & tsarina that had mixed raced/German & Russian children together among or in the Russian Royal Court there would of been more German family members of tsarina Alexandria in the Royal Court of Imperial Russia even teenagers who were children of Alexandria & Nicky's relatives....The Russian/German Imperial Family weren't the only people in the palace there were PEOPLE IN THE ROYAL COURT TO THAT COULD OF BEEN other German relatives of Alexandria that married other Russian Nobility like Alexandria did.... Many of Russian & German relatives & friends of the tsar & tsarina that were in the Royal Court that definitely would of Escaped one of them was Elisabeth Leontieff Hirshon's family Thank God From who all blessings flow... Maybe some Russian German Mixed Race Teenagers or Young Adults from the Royal Court of Russia & Germany were killed after all there were other Romanov Royal Court Family Members killed even teenagers that were related to Alexandria & Nicky as well too I think if all the royal family had all been killed together all in one night they would of all gotten buried all together why would the Bolshevik's bury Alexie & Maria in a separate grave if they killed all The Russian Family altogether in one night I think Alexie & Maria Escaped & that they put two mixed raced German Russian teenagers from the royal court that were related to Alexandria & Nicky's family that could of been either cousins or nieces or nephews that were an teenage boy & an teenage girl.....other people lived in the palace not just the grand duchesses/the tsar & tsarina & the Royal Court & their children that were related to the Tsar & Tsarina lived there too....Has the skulls of the two Romanov' Teenagers found in the separate grave have the same facial characteristics as the Real Alexie & Maria.... Like Granny Alina Facial Characteristics Match Perfectly with Princess Maria's?
+TheAlexischurches the bodies they found in 2007 were fragments their skulls were smashed into tiny fragments and much of them missing. So no they could not identify them by facial features. Strange how they could get DNA off of the bodies though. It's hard to believe they got DNA off bodies that were horribly burned, mutilated and buried in a harsh climate for 90 odd years. Apparently no teeth were found which is strange. Also Alexeis belt was supposedly found with them which makes no sense as all the bodies were stripped naked before burial according to yurovsky. U could be right maybe they got away or at least one survived after their rescue. Nickolas put millions which could be billions of today's money in separate accounts for each one of his daughters. Any survivor would be entitled to all the money. It's what Anna Anderson wanted. I think the Russian government unofficially used the money and that's why they can't recognise a survivor, if there is one.
I wasn't expecting that. Amazing great job, and thanks for sharing
Could be Maria.. but since she new the story of how this happened she could have been one of the young maids
I wish some of you would read hisory.1st Whats with the facination of Anastasia? And if you are going to fixate on her,spell her name correctly.Also.....a "couple of maids" did not wake them up.They had 1 maid still with them,Anna Demadovna.,but it was the Dr who woke them up after being instructed by the guards. And,NO,they couldnt have survived playing dead.
After the soldiers found so many jewels lining the girls' clothing, one might suppose the young women were all stripped of their clothes to find all the hidden gems. So, very doubtful that any of the naked dead bodies would have up and walked away.
OMG - It is, I didn't expect This!
Maria - Maria
God bless her and all of their Souls, but dad was an idiot!
This is very sad. What is even more heartbreaking is that history repeated itself not much later. Check out the story of the royal family in Baghdad, Iraq on the day of revolution July 14th., 1957. Iraqis celebrated the revolution as the Kingdom of Iraq became the Republic of Iraq, most just had to pretend that it was a just revolution. Surviving royal family members went to London. Later on, I think but not 100% sure, two unmarried princesses went back to Iraq and lived in AlMansour District on a street named after them; The Princesses Street.
As said below, mystery solved in 2007 as cited by the Russian Federation and U.S. authorities via DNA analysis. I'm curious as to whether this controversy would have been as prevalent as it was if her name didn't have a flair to as is 'Anastasia'. Amazing macabre story to say the least, even with the current outcome.
You believe the Russians?
You believe the Russians?
If we didn't already know the truth this would be a cool theory.
This is one of the most ridiculous docs that I've ever seen. "So how DID she end up in South Africa?" She didn't. She died that night, just like her siblings and parents. All of the remains of the family have been found and DNA tested. That woman doesn't even look like Anastasia.... unless Anastasia got a nose-job to make her nose look wider and reconstructive surgery to make her oval-shaped face more round.
If you watched the documentary you would know they thought Maria, not Anastasia.
It would make a lot of sense. If a drunk assassin lost a body, wouldn't they all lie about it? If not they would have been killed, so it makes perfect sense that they lied to the boss that all of them were dead, and it also makes sense why the lady wouldn't draw so much attention to herself like Anna Anderson did. If someone saw their whole family they wouldn't claim to be that person, in fear of being finished off.
This could easily be settled by DNA comparison with living people who come down from the granny. Why hasn't that been done?
Because they were found. In 2007 US and Russian scientists confirmed that the remaining bodies were Maria and Alexei. They are now buried at St. Petersburg
Whitney Pyant That's true but it doesn't stop "wannabe royals" coming forward claiming to be living descendants of these people.
It would have been nice to think that Anastasia had escaped, taken away from Russia, and lived her life away from there, with her husband, children, and died an old woman with many grandchildren. But this did not happen. Anastasia was killed along with her family. The way she died was terrible and undeserving.
Why not just test the DNA of the grandson(s) against the DNA of the Romanovs (or Prince Philip), and just figure if there's a match instead?
exactly, minicomma. I've been suggesting that. Some get it, and others just don't.
Greg Scott The reason is they need to match the mitochondrial DNA which is passed down by women. The grandsons were paternal grandsons who would not inherit the same mitochondrial DNA.
Where will they get the DNA's for the romanovs?
Christy Gift It has been many months (a few years?) since I was here, and only have a vague recollection-- I think Prince Philip, Elizabeth II's husband, carries Romanov DNA (possibly mitochondrial DNA) that could be used? If it is mitochondrial DNA that would be of use, then of course his offspring will not carry it.
minicomma that's exactly what I was thinking there trying to play dumb
I'd like to say something weird that has happened to me.
Once, while I was sleeping, I saw a dream with a lot of details. I was in a room with what appeared to be the Russian Royal family EXCEPT Anastsia. There were some other men in the cold lighted room. The Royal family called me Anastasia. I wasn't looking at what happend from the rear, I WAS Anastasia. Olga was with a beautiful laced light blue dress, Tatiana was in a pastel yellow dress, Maria in a pastel green laced dress and I, Anastasia was in a pastel light pink dress. Alexei was wearing what seemed to be a white sailor styled white jacket with four big buttons, white pantaloons, black shoes and a sailor styled scarf. Maria was protecting me and I was protecting Alexei because some men in green military suits attacked with vintage pistols. I remember Maria, Olga and Tatiana saying to me YA LYUBLYU TEBIA and then I felt a tremendous pain in the area between the heart and the stomach, THE EXCACT PLACE WHERE THEY SHOT ME. To this day, I love hearing piano, violin and classical music. I also like dancing. Randomly I searched if the Grand Duchess Anastasia had these hobbies, and SHE DID.
I have heard the is a direct heir to the throne. .smuggled out of Russia in the 50s..raised in America. .still alive.
lisa howell How would this person be alive nearly 100 years later? This happened in 1918, we are in 2015. 97 years old + the age they were then.
She would be the great granddaughter..direct descendant
Or granddaughter...that's who they are looking for..
that's true...he still alive ..... but he don't want the throne...
I have been interested in the Romanov Family since I was a young girl. This woman's story is no more true than Anna Anderson. Maybe she was a servant or lived in Russia, but she was not Anastasia.
Hello, I'm the proper heir to the Russian Imperial throne. I'm the Great Grandson of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova who is buried in Australia. My mother doesn't care about being the Granddaughter of Grand Duchess Anastasia, She doesn't care about wealth or being Imperial Romanov. The reason I care is that some handyman bastard burgled my parents during Aug 1997 stealing all of my Great Grandmother's Russian/British/German Imperial family heirlooms over the value of 200 million dollars including her Imperial Romanov photo albums,Tsar's medals and so on.We now have nothing and we're struggling to survive. The Russian Federation / Orthodox leaders use propaganda / political repression against me while Maria Vladimirovna undermines me.I live in Cairns Australia.
HIH JOHN ROMANOV Hi, John Romanov, you can't be the Great Grandson of The Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova Because it is stated down that she died July 17, 1918 (aged 17) without any children. She was not married nor was it even stated down in any single country including Russia that The Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova births no heirs to the thrown. Also it is even proven and stated down that The Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova was buried in Peter and Paul Cathedral, Saint Petersburg, Russian Federation. It is more likely that you would be the great grandson of one of her older sisters. Mostly likely it would have been The Maria Nikolaevna Romanova or The Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna. But it can't be The Grand Duchess Anastasia. Including also if you are a relation to the family then to state the full facts you will have many of the illness's. For instance:
painful bunions, which affected both of her big toes, a weak muscle in her back and was prescribed twice-weekly massage, Maria, reportedly hemorrhaged in December 1914 during an operation to remove her tonsils, Olga Alexandrovna said she believed all four of her nieces bled more than was normal and believed they were carriers of the hemophilia gene, like their mother, can have symptoms of hemophilia including a lower than normal blood clotting factor that can lead to heavy bleeding and DNA testing on the remains of the royal family proved conclusively in 2009 that Alexei suffered from Hemophilia B, a rarer form of the disease. His mother and sister Anastasia were carriers. Anastasia potentially would have passed on the disease if she had lived to have children. Anastasia, like all her family, doted on the long-awaited heir Tsarevich Alexei, or "Baby", who suffered frequent attacks of hemophilia and nearly died several times. So to conclude that you can't be a part of there family unless you have suffered or are a carried or have dealt with any of these for that would mean if you have you are with DNA testing a apart of their family. If not then stop lieing to yourself about being related to them. I promise you it will bring you no joy in life. Only depression.
Loki DarkRuler Laufeyson your intellect is titillating
2sprite1770 Thank you. I am just a girl that Loves History. Any part of History i can read up on i will.
Loki DarkRuler Laufeyson In case you missed it, they found Alexei and Maria's bodies 7 years ago.. None of the children survived, and none of the older Romanov daughters were married or had children.. This "John Romanov" guy is a total fraud and unfortunately not worth your (very detailed) history lesson..
Could the myth of survivors spring from the fact that Maria Feodorovna (the zar's mother) refused to accept that they were all killed. For the rest of her life she "pretended" they were still alive somewhere? And bless her for that - I think I would have done the same. It's uncomprehendable to loose five grandchildren in one blow
Why not skip testing questionable bones? Just compare the Prince Phillip mitochondrial DNA to a bloodline grandchild of Alina. Opps, that undermines the program's long build-up to a DNA "cliffhanger." What of unequivocal facial match & declaration "this is definitely Maria!" Opps, how inconvenient> Maria was 5'6" to 5'7" while Grannie Alina was 5'3"
Thank you for this doco. R.I.P Grand Duchess Maria of Russia, Granma Elena