The HIDDEN stat that makes the CS-63 unplayable in randoms

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  • čas přidán 1. 03. 2022
  • The CS-63 is super weird in World of Tanks, it does not really fit into the current Tier 10 meta, but why? It has great DPM and huge speed you'd think, but what is the hidden characteristic that keeps this tank quite subpar compared to other mediums? Join me and let's find out together!
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Komentáře • 152

  • @promobigamesyt7758
    @promobigamesyt7758 Před rokem +43

    The last few clips are my world of tanks experience in a nutshell. Aim fully, the shell goes above, below, to the left, the right, disappears or just sometimes disappears completely

    • @ArkhonXIX
      @ArkhonXIX Před rokem +8

      Took a 4 year break from this game. I’m a 3160 overall wn8 player with 27k battles and I’ve played for the last two weeks and now remember keenly what it feels like to want to smash my keyboard for the exact reasons you stated. Also the whole armor hit no damage shit is pissing me off. What does that even mean?

  • @raulansbach5238
    @raulansbach5238 Před 2 lety +91

    Also about the CS in normal battles, it can troll "bad players" into getting into shit positions or in positions so early they have no support and make they die with 0 or very low damage

    • @RichardStefanits
      @RichardStefanits Před 2 lety +9

      That's nothing, I used to flip in the first 30 seconds when I do not pay enough attention driving it. And of course that happens in front of enemies, because that's how I do it.
      It's still the most fun tank to play in the last 2-3 years in WoT.

    • @joaoguilherme9034
      @joaoguilherme9034 Před rokem +1

      Thats why i never rush

  • @lethuliv5500
    @lethuliv5500 Před 2 lety +39

    The aimtime combined with relative bad dispersion values really makes it feel like playing a t9 tank when reaching a position. And I dont really understand why it has so so bad reverse speed. It really does have more cons than most other t10 mediums for some reason.
    I still love to play it tho, the gimmick is really enjoyable and lets you do interesting things (YOOOLO!)

    • @joeblack5253
      @joeblack5253 Před rokem

      Wg should create a attacking tank (or fun battle Mode) where you only can go forth and on sides and have like 0-1 kmh back speed

  • @vuxluongw
    @vuxluongw Před 2 lety +26

    11:41 i swear this tank even with the pineapple reticle, if it gets seamless mode transfer like the ebr, will defenitely become meta even in pubs. with a campy tank like strv i understand the reason behind the siege mode delay but this is more of an assault medium tank (still dont get it why wg classed it as a "sniper" medium tank even with really average dispersion values lol) so the 2s wait is completely devastating

  • @mikolaj_stopa_mtb
    @mikolaj_stopa_mtb Před 2 lety +64

    Yeah sometimes this gun is awfull but the stabilisation is Good same as in the m48 Patton(Good stabilisation but bad dispersion)

    • @emirbenaissa3441
      @emirbenaissa3441 Před 2 lety +20

      That makes these tanks good for pubs and medium range but sniping, meeh. Hell even my Leo1 trolls me with fully aimed circle at long range. Fuckign RNG based aim mechanics.

    • @battleroyale123
      @battleroyale123 Před 2 lety +7

      @@emirbenaissa3441 the moment you go long range you must get screwed by RNG, even if you have 0.2 accuracy

  • @TankingTrucker
    @TankingTrucker Před 2 lety +29

    In the over 10 years I've been playing world of tanks, I've learned The one golden rule, never count on a teammate in random battles . They will let you down every single time.

  • @SgtTraz
    @SgtTraz Před 2 lety

    Was just recommended your videos, really enjoying so far.

  • @WiFuzzy
    @WiFuzzy Před 2 lety +5

    I had a game that like yours. I could not miss. Was so much fun. Note I said "a game" One. A couple weeks ago. Still waiting for the next one. might show up in June.

  • @konstantymiekus3237
    @konstantymiekus3237 Před 2 lety +63

    The aim mechanic in this game is frustrating, unreal, rng not skill based and basically waaaay to big. I would easily halved or even 1/4 the values like 0.34 - 0,17 or 0.085 etc. Aiming time also could be not linear but be regressive like (aiming from 1.5/100m to 1/100m circle faster than from 1/100, to 0.5/100) Also would decrease the 25%+- RNG to 10% in DMG and +-1% in penetration (why the f there is 25% rng in penetration? Do bullets fly slower? no, do bullets weigh less/more? no, So why the f they gave it 25% +- rng xD)
    What do you think kajzoo?

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před 2 lety +30

      Agreed guns could be more accurate:(

    • @konstantymiekus3237
      @konstantymiekus3237 Před 2 lety +7

      @@kajzoo just make me a WG director and you have it, simple as that

    • @pavelperina7629
      @pavelperina7629 Před 2 lety +8

      Aiming is not linear, AFAIK aim time is how fast circle size goes down by 1/e (37%) so it's 63% of original size in t=aimtime, 40% at 2*aimtime, 25% at 3 times aim time, 16% at 4*aimtime ... so SkyPigGamer having M53 has six time larger aim circle after firing and it shrinks to original size at roughly 4*aimtime (aimtime=5s) so 20s total.

    • @konstantymiekus3237
      @konstantymiekus3237 Před 2 lety +1

      @@pavelperina7629 Oh, right, my bad, So aim time can stay that way :p

    • @Lucero0709
      @Lucero0709 Před 2 lety +2

      @chems

  • @RD-ke8mz
    @RD-ke8mz Před 2 lety

    Nice, nice, nice. 🔝💯 This video is better than a tank review. 👌 Perfect situational awareness, expecially on Serene Coast. I loved also the last min: EPIC SHOT on Kran and silly miss on Yoh. I'm looking forward for more vids like that, maybe where you can squeeze 3-4 clips of the same tank in critical situations 😉 keep up the good work ☺️💪👍

  • @Aquila.
    @Aquila. Před 2 lety +1

    Really enjoying your Videos dude! That Skill is just outstanding. Would btw. love a 430U Video since you rareley see one on the Battlefield nowadays. Not the most competetive Tanks nowadays, but still good nonetheless. (Excuse my Grammar Guys, i'm from Germany)

  • @SilencerGDA
    @SilencerGDA Před 2 lety +2

    "Unreliable gun". Goes to proceed scoring more bullseyes than allowed

  • @RickDeckard2049
    @RickDeckard2049 Před 2 lety +2

    actually really good point on the ebr mode and accuracy.

  • @guvyygvuhh298
    @guvyygvuhh298 Před 2 lety +4

    You can pretty much call the last 4-5 min of the game "Why wot is so damn garbage"
    2 weeks into my wot break, game started to have some serioud negative effects on my mental health, and the last part of the vid is exactly why

  • @atomicbetrayal1
    @atomicbetrayal1 Před 2 lety +4

    man was it frustrating to watch the 60tp in the first match...

  • @phychibdlbpc8503
    @phychibdlbpc8503 Před 2 lety +2

    As usual shell is going in the middle of the aimng circle 95% of the time and no one is schoked by that ...

  • @Exarvi
    @Exarvi Před 2 lety +1

    Tank kinda requires you to be aggressive but at the same time can punish you for that

  • @darkninja___
    @darkninja___ Před 2 lety +8

    My second highest medium dpg is in the CS-63. I actually like it a lot. The dispersion penalty values are actually better than the leo 1 and it has the best dispersion on turret traverse at tier 10 I think. The reverse speed sucks so you are forced to use the field mod and turbo lots of games but besides that I think its good.

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, I have around 4,5k too, but I feel like other mediums just offer way more in the long run (121B M60 Leo1)

    • @darkninja___
      @darkninja___ Před 2 lety +2

      @@kajzoo yeah I prefer the 121B and I do more in it too And I only like it more than the m60 because it is easier for me to play. I still like it more than the stb though tbh. I like it about the same as the leo

  • @1oglop1
    @1oglop1 Před 2 lety

    Just yesterday a 47% CS was driving around me full speed hit me 3 times while I 3 times bounced the side...

  • @SirMcAwesome
    @SirMcAwesome Před 2 lety +7

    I got my accuracy down to like 0.29 in the CS and it's still missing like hell. No fing way is there not a hidden stat in terms of accuracy.

    • @NotADuncon
      @NotADuncon Před 2 lety +3

      sigma is constant. It's probably pen drop off + shell Speed + shell calibre + bloom

    • @pavelperina7629
      @pavelperina7629 Před 2 lety +1

      @@NotADuncon And if you snipe or not. Also I found out RNG much more frustrating on tanks with long reload. But I understand it, there are tanks that just feel broken. Charioteer for example: 40% shots hits exactly where I want, 40% are used for killing moles and 20% at least hit the tank somewhere (like tracks or gun mantlet instead of upper plate). But number of shots going to the bottom- or top-most pixel of aim circle seems insane.

    • @NotADuncon
      @NotADuncon Před 2 lety

      @@pavelperina7629 It's usually just a mix of stats we know not hidden stats. There is a great big article about gun mechanics on wotlabs forums I recomend to you.

    • @pavelperina7629
      @pavelperina7629 Před 2 lety

      @@NotADuncon actually there are two of them, if we mean the same hundred pages books

    • @NotADuncon
      @NotADuncon Před 2 lety

      @@pavelperina7629 wasn't one of them on vision and one on guns?

  • @cirlu_bd
    @cirlu_bd Před 2 lety +1

    disparity between voiceover and stream audio is earshattering :/
    turned the audio up a lot because stream audio is really quiet, but I had to turn it back down very quick at the voiceover part, it was so loud in comparison !!

  • @goodboysady
    @goodboysady Před rokem +1

    I don't know man I like cs gun performance more than my leo 1 because they don't magically disappear alot

  • @tcp7656
    @tcp7656 Před 2 lety

    some people downstairs still talking about gold amo??? i will be 100 years old and still someone will complain about it...great video

  • @mathewweeks9069
    @mathewweeks9069 Před 4 měsíci

    Awesome video

  • @emberfluff
    @emberfluff Před 2 lety +3

    my issue with the tank is the fact that it's supposed to be super fast (which it is, in turbo mode) but the gun is incredibly bad in turbo mode.
    so why does the leopard get to go 70km/h (only 4 less than cs63) but get to keep the great gun handling on the move? cs63 would be soooo much better if it could be even halfway reliable in turbo mode.

    • @TehButterflyEffect
      @TehButterflyEffect Před rokem +3

      Leo doesn't accelerate half as fast as this tank.

    • @GenHummel96
      @GenHummel96 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Leos acceleration and ground resistances are worse, it will loose a race against CS even with 105 octane and bond turbo (aka "improved compressor")!
      CS-63 has 2000HP vs Leos 1800, which makes CS surviving one more hit on average...
      They are both classified as sniper mediums, but have completely different roles on the battlefield - due to the lackluster gun, CS-63 should be classified as a "versatile medium", because this gun works on close to medium range, but is total dogshit in long range combat (0,33 dispersion without improved aiming sucks and 315 APCR loose too much penetration on distance, even Leo1's 323 are complicated sometimes)!

  • @tow7454
    @tow7454 Před 2 lety

    Can you make a video about the Udes15/16? Im grinding it right now because i think its really underated

  • @iainwindows9533
    @iainwindows9533 Před 2 lety

    Not using vert stabs? That's brave xD

  • @TheAllAroundMan
    @TheAllAroundMan Před měsícem

    I was gonna grind this tank but I found the BUGI so horrible that I gave up

  • @omarsaad5117
    @omarsaad5117 Před 2 lety +2

    Everytime I see a video of yours I ask myself
    is he alien?
    Maybe he has a secret V.Stab installed to his hands
    I want to know your mouse sensitivity and dpi please? Your aim is perfect 👌

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před 2 lety +4

      Aiming tutorial video will soon be done 🙏

  • @parkerp4784
    @parkerp4784 Před rokem

    What equipment do you use for the CS

  • @tobiasL1991
    @tobiasL1991 Před 2 lety +1

    Does this reserse speed mean you take the extra reverse top speed but less camo?
    I mean that leads to a situation where even the E-50m has about the same camo as the CS 63, just to put that into perspective.

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před 2 lety +1

      Yep

    • @GenHummel96
      @GenHummel96 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Well, i personally will prefer camo over reverse speed most of the time...
      With improved bounty Turbocharger, i equal the reverse speed loss of the camo field mod, so i simply gain camo and forward speed in exchange...
      Due to CS-63 collects dust in my garage and simply is a CW-only tank (i hate it with all my heart), its just used for fast pushes an therefore i dont need reverse speed 🤣

  • @davidkraljic8371
    @davidkraljic8371 Před 2 lety

    Thank you 😁

  • @serbianempire6456
    @serbianempire6456 Před 2 lety

    Another pro-tip: paint your tank with sick-ass cammo. What's the name of that 2D style? :D

  • @PapaSquat808
    @PapaSquat808 Před 2 lety

    So what made you want to go heavy line instead of C1 in the first game Serene Coast?

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před 2 lety

      Enemy Kran and the promise of free damage in the form of slow and dumb heavies

  • @melvin3844
    @melvin3844 Před rokem

    bro wtf is that kranvagn snipe

  • @Bagheera2
    @Bagheera2 Před 2 lety

    Your misses remind me of my games in obj 140.
    Worst medium tank gun ive ever used.

  • @olds2011ify
    @olds2011ify Před 2 lety

    What equipment you running here? Also, on your k91:)

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před 2 lety +1

      Check description:)

    • @olds2011ify
      @olds2011ify Před 2 lety

      @@kajzoo apologies I just found your videos! Very helpful! I feel like with today’s meta, this medium has more influential Carry potential than most mediums because of how important position is to the early game. That early damage on transitioning tanks is just so important. I love your videos, and for the most part the gun seems great! My Leo doesn’t hit every shell either, damn rng. Though that k91 looks tempting !

  • @trogdortamer48
    @trogdortamer48 Před rokem

    13:18 What a beautiful moment

  • @Eshelion
    @Eshelion Před 2 lety +1

    Why ebrs don't have same mechanic with modes switch as this tank is a philosophical question, almost as hard to answer as "why are we here". ;) Only WG's balancing department knows. I'd say the answer is crack. In huge amounts. ;)
    I've seen 1st and 2nd battles on stream, watched them again with pleasure. :)

  • @user-cd6df8cg6n
    @user-cd6df8cg6n Před rokem

    can we play CS without v stabilizer? i usually play MTs like leo, udes, m48 with rammer, vents, and some other equipments (like vision, hardening, turbo). cs does not have a good dispersionwhile on moving and turret traverse.

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před rokem

      I would say drop vents and take turbo or hp

    • @user-cd6df8cg6n
      @user-cd6df8cg6n Před rokem

      thanks dude always enjoy your vid

  • @maX0229567
    @maX0229567 Před 2 lety +3

    Field mod and turbo makes the reverse speed a pretty servicable 22 kmh, which I think is enough

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před 2 lety +3

      But then you are left with no accuracy/dpm/gun handling or survivability

    • @maX0229567
      @maX0229567 Před 2 lety +3

      @@kajzoo Yea, some trade offs I guess

  • @g7capo
    @g7capo Před 2 lety +2

    Really wish you could sort out your volume issues. They're all over the place.

  • @Mrcool179
    @Mrcool179 Před 2 lety

    Sheesh this game easy as fuck when you have a good crew, gold rounds, prem consumables, bounty equipment etc.

  • @ciu4523
    @ciu4523 Před 2 lety

    why not stb 1 best medium for doing high dmg?

  • @marcohueber5130
    @marcohueber5130 Před rokem +1

    Still 10 times more playable than the Grille 15

  • @commenttroll6933
    @commenttroll6933 Před 2 lety +1

    Commenting for the algorithm

  • @Djoki1
    @Djoki1 Před rokem

    19:32 yet another lol moment

  • @innerarts4091
    @innerarts4091 Před 2 lety

    Yeah exactly, why I don't play this in pubs anymore, maybe I'm just too shite

  • @shmevanriceballz2857
    @shmevanriceballz2857 Před rokem +1

    Wow that 60tp was dog

  • @evrimdemir702
    @evrimdemir702 Před 2 lety

    i only play this tank for rammin people in turbo mod

  • @Noodleypup
    @Noodleypup Před 2 lety +6

    Really love how you haven't loaded any gold at all! Love content that shows how you can play by actually aiming for weak spots which a lot of CZcamsrs at the moment don't possess.

    • @_astarte4410
      @_astarte4410 Před 2 lety +23

      How do we tell him? XD

    • @bbernhar2000
      @bbernhar2000 Před 2 lety +5

      It is all GOLD he is shooting. He does it in most tanks he plays at high tiers.

    • @Noodleypup
      @Noodleypup Před 2 lety +2

      @@bbernhar2000 Ahhhh thanks for letting me know 😂😂 Oops! He still does something most CZcamsrs don't either way 😬😂

    • @bbernhar2000
      @bbernhar2000 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Noodleypup He is great player but moving the ammo over to appear in what is usually the regular slot and then maxing it out is a little deceiving. If he carried a mixed bag of ammo I could see switching the gold to slot 1 but since he only carries gold there is no reason to for the slot switch. He also never mentions anything about all premium ammo during his vids. I am an average player that only shoots gold when it is a must and my rating suffers dramatically for it. I like the skill needed to pen with reg ammo on weak spots more that the rating boost.

    • @Noodleypup
      @Noodleypup Před 2 lety +2

      @@bbernhar2000 Yeah I agree. I'm totally the same and hardly ever use gold rounds as I like the challenge and premise of aiming for weak spots.

  • @NotADuncon
    @NotADuncon Před 2 lety

    Thoughts on Udes MEDIUM?

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před 2 lety +1

      Meh, good at close range but really bad at sniping cuz of velocity and pen

    • @NotADuncon
      @NotADuncon Před 2 lety

      @@kajzoo Damn was kinda hoping the decent alpha dpm and armor mix made it a good brawler/hull down tank. Need a med to grind thats not STB/LEO

  • @deividaskosteckis726
    @deividaskosteckis726 Před 2 lety

    Whats the point of this mode, when u can put turbo into slot or use improved turbo? u dont need to waste time in switching modes, you can fire on move, you got more power and bigger top speed all time

    • @theBhavMan
      @theBhavMan Před 2 lety

      idk bout you but i use it because I get the speed without needing to run a turbo, and so I can run something else to boost my gun handling

  • @kacperpaluch8761
    @kacperpaluch8761 Před 2 lety +3

    Reverse speed is shit 15km/h xXDdDDF

  • @GenHummel96
    @GenHummel96 Před 4 měsíci

    I cannot make that damn thing work!
    Over 2sec aim time with 0.33 dispersion simply feels bad on a T10 "sniper"-medium!
    The forward speed feels good but the reverse speed sucks, combined with unreliable armor makes this thing only playable in a platoon of two or three...
    I will grind the field mods on it, because it is CW-Meta and it will collect dust afterwards!
    Leopard 1 will be my No. 1 tank forever! ✌️

  • @adambalogh7239
    @adambalogh7239 Před 2 lety

    Does it only bother me that the screen scaling is so wide?

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před 2 lety +1

      Sry about that

    • @adambalogh7239
      @adambalogh7239 Před 2 lety

      @@kajzoo since you said it, i dont mind it anymore 😂

  • @mateuzz7538
    @mateuzz7538 Před rokem

    Polish meds are way better than any medium tanks. What do you think?

  • @lilwank9602
    @lilwank9602 Před 2 lety

    bros twitch sub count as been skyrocketing

  • @Ouwak
    @Ouwak Před 2 lety

    best med ten nice troll title lol

  • @madsandreasen5201
    @madsandreasen5201 Před rokem

    play t95e6 PLEASE

  • @Airspaceuser
    @Airspaceuser Před 2 lety

    Got the Cs-63 cause *faest*

  • @charakterny8800
    @charakterny8800 Před 2 lety

    If ebr would have same mechanics like cs there wouldnt be any clear reason to use it. Simple

  • @ludovicgomessilva404
    @ludovicgomessilva404 Před 2 lety +1

    EBR doesn't get this mechanic for many factors :
    -its a light tank
    - it's got a 390 alpha at THE
    - it's got trash penetration as well as heat round for premium with terrible velocity.
    - it doesn't have as much DPM and armor as the CS gets
    It's pretty obvious as to why EBR doesn't get the same treatment as the CS...

  • @NilsBrunner10
    @NilsBrunner10 Před 2 lety

    wie kann man immer ausreden haben wenn man stirbt???

  • @madscavens6363
    @madscavens6363 Před rokem

    Gold all the time

  • @sillysausage4549
    @sillysausage4549 Před 2 lety +4

    Seeing all these gold spamming streamers is a reminder of how good Sir Foch actually was.

    • @gottwyCZ
      @gottwyCZ Před 2 lety +1

      Not really. These days it's completely different game on tier 10. Tanks are balanced around their gold ammo there. You often need gold to pen "weakspots". If you want to watch some no gold content skill4ltu recently started no gold challenge. Although he is using impossible crews and food for that. So what's the point really.

    • @Extremely.Retarded
      @Extremely.Retarded Před 2 lety +1

      Do you think he does that much damage just because he fires golds? Stop lying to yourself, he's just good and you're bad. That's it. Even if YOU were to fire only gold rounds, you would never reach even 30% of his skill.

    • @TehButterflyEffect
      @TehButterflyEffect Před rokem

      @@Extremely.Retarded That's a very bold assumption.

  • @Florence00pi
    @Florence00pi Před 2 lety

    I literally had to unsub and sub again in order not to get that bad RNG 😞

  • @todarka3003
    @todarka3003 Před rokem

    oh man?I am sorry but what about RU region?There are more good plaiers . I saw...

  • @TheHateSpeechChannel
    @TheHateSpeechChannel Před 2 lety

    Autoaim.... Really? Lolol

  • @justmadz8447
    @justmadz8447 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice clickbait

  • @dougismakis4828
    @dougismakis4828 Před 2 lety

    This guy is a cheat.

  • @TehButterflyEffect
    @TehButterflyEffect Před rokem

    What a clickbait title. You know all the "playable" tanks you listed are extremely hard to play, right?

  • @KretenSedam
    @KretenSedam Před 2 lety +3

    Dude, make more videos without full gold and tryhard loadouts, better without even food. Everyone seems to go full unicum in their videos.

    • @kajzoo
      @kajzoo  Před 2 lety +4

      And whats that gonna achieve?

    • @KretenSedam
      @KretenSedam Před 2 lety +2

      @@kajzoo It will be fun to watch a good player like you dominate without using the absolute maximum tools the game gives you, nothing more.

    • @chems
      @chems Před 2 lety +6

      @@KretenSedam why would you put yourself at a disadvantage if you have access to better options?

    • @KretenSedam
      @KretenSedam Před 2 lety

      @@chems Other than entertainment, some lols and to test yourselves, no real reason.

    • @azi2g
      @azi2g Před 2 lety +2

      @@chems because it takes more skill, and it proves to the naysayers it's not gold that floats you. A large percentage of players disregard any good, high damage, replays that shoot only gold.
      Gold is a cancer, just like arty.

  • @aries_23_hltm
    @aries_23_hltm Před 2 lety

    Still don't understand why this obvious cheater has not been banned by WG.
    I'm gathering evidence every day. I watch him snipe cupolas, sitting there with his mouth agape. There is no way this bathrobe wearing kid is legit. NO WAY. And it's 'you're' not 'your'. Once I have enough evidence, I'm going to demand that WG ban him! If you read through the comments, I'm not alone in my suspicions.

  • @toniespasmos
    @toniespasmos Před 2 lety

    i was the 60TP and i was making a play that i learnt in Mr.cvs strim! we lost the game but i made that PzV|| waste his time and im happy! :)

    • @PanZimaa
      @PanZimaa Před 2 lety

      funny to be proud losing the game for your team

    • @toniespasmos
      @toniespasmos Před 2 lety

      @@PanZimaa losing is part of the game! :)