Creationist Movie FAILS at EVERY Subject! (Full Documentary Response)
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- The 'Is Genesis History?' movie with Del Tackett, purporting to be a documentary, packed hundreds of theaters in early 2017. But does the film actually present science or just pseudoscientific warm & fuzzies? That's what this series with @SciStrike intends to find out.
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"Science is an incredibly unreliable path."
He says, whilist wearing glasses, and a vest with a zipper, into a microphone, infront of a digital camera, recording a video of which to upload onto the internet.
Clowns, the whole lot of them.
I swear the similarities between creationists and flat earthers are uncanny
This deserves far more likes.
An internet that required literal rocket science in many contexts, which required multiple other scientific disciplines to function, with computers that needed science to function as well. I think we can fit a few more clowns in this car folks!
@@Person-ip7iy The overlap is almost impressive, if you disregard the fact that denial of reality for one conspiracy theory will likely lead a person to all the other conspiracy theories that rely on denial of reality.
For many of them, it appears all of science is made up to make people think they're insignificant so they can be controlled by the 'they', denying them their god given liberty to... do anything exactly as god (the church) tells them to and apologise for existing until the day they die and think they go to heaven so they can worship god for all eternity.
Using fossil fuels found using radioisotope dating to drive their car with a GPS navigator that uses satellites and maps made from space shots of earth to get to said church is, apparently, not contradictory to all this.
@@Person-ip7iy there's a significant overlap of the Venn diagram with these two.
Is Genesis history?
Well, they are pretty much. Peter Gabriel's been a solo artist for decades, so has Steve Hackett, and Phil Collins, sadly, can't play drums any more.
Wait, is this the right thread?
🤣
Another day in paradise serves as a beautiful reminder of God's perfect creation
@@philw6056 Pretty sure it's about being kind when people need kindness because our lives are comfortable.
@@BenjWarrant Especially how great that works every single time
Jesus, he knows me. 😂
If the Bible is history, then Marvel comics are newspapers.
LOL!
Mind if I use that?
@@cygnusustus Be my guest
I believe that the Silmarillion was the final revelation of God.
the bible is history. as it being a book written by people in the past. is it historical, tho? no, not even close
@@theflyingdutchguy9870
Don't confuse "History" with "Historical".
"Is it possible this ability to change has been mistaken for evolution?"
The lack of self-awareness is stunning.
It must be exhausting to have to continually defend your beliefs against reality.
As a former Christian, I can confirm that it is.
You either just ignore it or you end up working really, really hard to fit data points into your worldview that are fatal to it.
And profitable
I think this is why so many of them are in such crusty moods most of the time.
@@johnalexir7634 We actually are in great moods unlike angry, crybaby atheists 😢😂.
I dont have to lie and ridicule to live a lame life!
For a group of people who are commanded to be different and not "of this world" they are absolutely obsessed with not just fitting in, but being the dominant system of thought.
That was because they thought jeebs was coming back any day now to destroy that world, so there was no point in being a part of it. Since that has consistently failed to happen, they’ve decided that dominionism/integralism is what they need to do instead.
@@WS-dd8ow 2000+ years later, they're still waiting. And some are tired of waiting, so they actively seek to force His Majesty's return.
Yeah, they are called "Armageddonites" and want to actively cause Armageddon. This should scare you because some of them are prominent politicians.
Imagine those kids having to sit through that dreary nonsense instead of the Lego Batman movie.
As a kid I had to sit through Bible readings until we were all so mentally numb we could only nod and fight against falling asleep. These kids had a blast by comparison (not that I'm bitter) >_
@@brianhurd3355 Wonder how many snuck out and snuck into the Batman movie.
@@brunozeigerts6379 - LoL, At the very least 10-yr-old me would have tried for a long bathroom break, but fear of damnation might have kept the visit brief XD
Argument from atheism fallacy
@@LordOfThePancakes Argument from theist fallacy.
Since Del is into computer science, allow to me invoke an old programming adage: The tendency of science to change in response to new information is a feature, not a bug. It's a critical element of the scientific method.
Tldr : working as intended
Science is a body of knowledge, not a story.
Many different fields influence the capabilities of computers. Electronics, Micro/Nanotechnology, Optics, Micromechanics and more. And every one of those fields provided multiple steps to reduce size or improve performance. Sometimes there is more than one way to move forward, so different companies might head in different directions, but it's almost always a gradual development.
He makes it seem as though each improvement is based on a novel and independent approach to building computers.
I walked into the room and my spouse was watching this movie on a streaming service. I'd never heard of it. I listened for two minutes and then warned him that it was nonsense and to not take it as science. He turned it off.
well done
then, a believer would be justified on turning off paulogia's video too.
@@agroquin…no? If there’s a point you’re trying to make, you’re going to have to spell it out because right now the only thing there is to say in response is a simple negative.
@@agroquinHow is that? Are you claiming that Paul's commentary is non-scientific? If not, then you're making a false equivalence.
@@agroquinNot really. Facts won't change just because you'd like to think otherwise...
_Is Genesis History?_ offers nothing new as “evidence,” just the same arguments.
Yes, but with _different_ emotionally manipulati-
...I mean... emotionally "moving" music.
Check and mate. 😎
Of course it's history - if you mean "history" as in an obsolete cultural artifact with no relevance in modern society.
You know, like zeppelins are history - or the dodo.
@@LadyDoomsinger Zeppelins can still be useful though.
Argument from atheism fallacy
@@LordOfThePancakesThat's not a thing.
Sci Strike was a wonderful little scientifically literate pooch. 😢
Miss the li'l pug.
god: "of course i don't need a fence, i'll tell them they will die and that will stop anyone eating apples"
every gardener ever: "groan" *face palm*
Adam & Eve: "The fu-k is 'death'?"
@@lnsflare1 Also Adam & Eve: ~doesn't understand that disobeying is wrong because the knowledge of Good and Evil is in the fruit they haven't eaten yet~
@@Uldihaa You know, come to think of it, given the way God explains it "You may eat of any of these trees, except that one, it'll kill you" makes the fact that them eating from it is treated as like "The most evil thing evarrr" even weirder. It's not even "Don't eat from that tree, because I, the holy god, said so, and so it would be wrong for you to do so" because, as you noted, he withheld knowledge of right and wrong, good and evil from them. God, effectively, has to lie to Adam and Eve about the consequences of eating the fruit, because he prevented them from understanding them in the first place.
... What weird way for people to picture their god.
@@thaddeusgenhelm8979 What's interesting to me is that in all the stories of all of the gods, not a single one of these gods ever demonstrates more scientific knowledge than whoever spread/recorded them.
The Greek gods still used bronze and Hephaestus never built a steam engine. FFS, they didn't even have the concept of arches for building.
Jesus said the mustard seed was the smallest seed.
Odin knew nothing of the Americas.
All the gods of Egypt and Persia said not a word about fossil fuels.
None of them mentioned electricity, or any fundamental law of physics. And iirc some of them even repeated the idea that the sun revolved around the Earth.
If any of them were real gods, they would have known all the above. But they were never once shown to have that knowledge.
@@thaddeusgenhelm8979 people would make more sense getting their history from Dr Suess books. Weird how we will make excuses in our heads for anything we already believe, but it's so easy to see the contradictions of other peoples beliefs. Yet we still pat ourselves on the head thinking we have it all sorted out. We are homus confidently incorrectus
Man. What a witty character SciStrike was. I hope he enjoyed working on this, and I'm glad to see his work come to life. Rest in peace, king.
Imagine how insulted they'd be if you went into their churches preaching bad theology to their preachers with the same enthusiasm that they preach bad science to scientists.
I've taken to "telling" Christians that they believe that drinking the blood of a dead god will make them immortal.
It's actually closer to their theology than "you think you came from a rock" is to abiogenesis.
I'm less concerned about them teaching "bad science" to scientists than I am concerned about them teaching bad science to children.
I'm old enough to remember starting the school day with a prayer and daily bible readings in class. And a teacher (grade 4 IIRC) who decided to go around the room asking us about what books we were reading on our own. In fairness she was trying to encourage us to read more but when she got to me and I said I was reading a book on evolution I was told (in so many words) to "Shut Up and Sit Down" because she didn't believe that stuff.
@simongiles9749 that is not what Christians believe.
@@scottbradley1432good.
You should have listened.
@@user-uk3uj6zs1w Yeah, that's the point. "You think you came from a rock" is not in any way an accurate portrayal of any theory of abiogenesis, and yet it gets trotted out with irksome frequency.
Annoying, isn't it, when somebody deliberately misrepresents your position?
Although answer me these:
Dioes or does not the Eucharist wine represent (or in some denominations actually *become*) the Blood of Christ?
Is or is not drinking it as part of a ceremony an important part of Christian worship to demonstrate faith?
Does or does not Christianity promise Life Eternal for those who have faith in it?
And is or is not Christ God who lived and died and went to heaven?
So explain to me how believing that drinking the blood of a dead god will make you immortal is an incorrect description. (I freely admit it's reductive, I did that on purpose).
My dad gave this movie to me and I bravely facepalmed my way through this. The entire time I was wondering how he could think that this would be convincing to me.
Oof. Ouch.
Apparently you didn't open your heart for jesus to enter....
I salute your dedication to filial piety.
it's the same way that many of my family members keep sending me bible quotes......they THINK it should convince me.
@@thedude0000
Don’t like cabbage?
Let me stew it for you and then you’ll like it.
How are these evangelical people so impervious to reality? No. Don’t answer that. I was impervious to reality for years. They. Need. Help.
My parents and some of my siblings are evangelicals. And I grew up believing that. Now I'm an atheist.
That being said, I don't think I was impervious to reality. I was simply misinformed and could not find easily digestable information. But I could find some atheists making terrible arguments and that strengthened my conviction.
Do you, for example, know what 'no' means? I think that 80-95% don't know it. And most of them don't know that they don't know it.
How about 'or' or 'fallacy'? Just really basic things people do not understand.
So basically if I do not accept X, it doesn't mean I'm convinced X is false. And "A or B" sometimes includes "A and B" and sometimes not. And also fallacy fallacy (sic) is a thing.
stop them from lying to kids and their evil fable fizzles out
There's a YTer whonused to go by the name AntiCitizenX, (now Philosophy Engineered) who has an excellent series on the psychology of holding beliefs - why we have them, why we cling to thenm despite evidence to the contrary, etc.. Well worth a watch.
SciStrike had a ton of fun assembling our part, I still cringe at how I sound on video (and am looking more and more like my cartoon image in real life) but still happy with how we condensed the topic for the show.
Quibble: atomic clocks are based on the cesium standard, not radioactive isotope decay. From Wikipedia:
The caesium standard is a primary frequency standard in which the photon absorption by transitions between the two hyperfine ground states of caesium-133 atoms is used to control the output frequency.
It has a frequency of exactly 9192631770 Hz.
You can’t really use half-life as that kind of clock. It’s a statistical process; it’s only reliable because a lot of atoms are involved.
Like… flipping a coin 4 times might give you heads every time. But flip it 1 trillion times, and you’re going to get a result very close to half a trillion for each side. And in fact, you’ll be able to tell exactly how fair that coin and toss method really are.
Anyway, none of that negates the primary point: half life works fine for dating things as it is used in archeology and geology. Maybe just don’t use it to set your watch.
Yup, was going to make same point: cesium clocks work from stable frequency atomic resonances, not steady rates of atomic decay. Too random in small samples and too slow. No need to give anything away to creationist nitpickers. Otherwise, an excellent analysis of this totally flawed flood of scientific hogwash.
Argument from atheism fallacy
@@LordOfThePancakesAre you even trying?
@@LordOfThePancakes I don’t know what atheism even has to do with anything I said. These are literally just normal verifiable facts about reality that anyone ought to be able to accept regardless of faith. They don’t contradict religion.
Are you so blinded by your obsession with magical thinking that you can’t even operate in the real world?
Also, that’s not a fallacy. That’s something you (or someone else) made up. Do I also fall to the argument from not believing in leprechauns and dragons and wizards and … fallacy? I mean, it’d be cool if dragons or wizards existed… but, you know… they don’t. “Argument from not believing in my fantasy fallacy!” You sound real intelligent there.
Photons from electron shells are also emitted as a stochastic process. What "makes" the Cs137 (IIRC) notable is it is a METASTABLE state, so it stays at the same for many many electron bounces between two shells, and laser light is used to pump up a higher excitation level and one of the falls is to that metastable level. If instead the decay happened quickly, the frequency would NOT be stable to so many significant fractions.
If a book, film, essay or podcast has a title with a question mark in it, the answer is always a resounding 'No'.
Betteridge's law of headlines.
@@totokekedile yup
You've obviously never seen my award-winning documentary "Will I Get Injured By Jumping Off My Roof?"
*To creationists:* If you have to lie to maintain your beliefs, then there's something wrong with your beliefs.
They are too busy counting money to think about that.
@@rickmartin7596 Agreed.
@@rickmartin7596 The grift that keeps on grifting.
lying to children is immoral
So….the Grand Canyon was formed in weeks. Why hasn’t it double or tripled in depth or width in the past 200 years?
Sh..
I didnt think of that!
erm because... you know... something something... you just want to sin!!
It's because they think the Grand canyon is proof of the flood just because their Bible says it happened. Not because they can actually prove the "big flood" happened, but mostly because they feel like it happened.
Not defending creationists but in short, they claimed that the global flood caused the rock to be softer and allowed the rock to be carved quickly. But I won't go into how wrong all of that is lol.
I was exactly the audience for this when I used to be a Christian. I’d have taken the points they made, believed them, and thought atheists and evolutionists were too stubborn to recognize the truth.
As I began a very gradual process of leaving my faith, I began to accept that people weren’t being stubborn when they didn’t believe in god. After long conversations and they’re objections, I more and more began to understand, they really don’t believe. It’s not that they’re being stubborn or obstinate, they actually in their bones, don’t believe. They’re unconvinced.
Unbelief became more and more reasonable to me. And while I was still Christian, when people used to tell me atheists know in their heart there is a god, they just want to live in sin, I found that a dishonest answer. I would argue with my fellow believers, that they aren’t being stubborn or suppressing anything. They really truly don’t believe and they have very logical and rational reasons for not believing.
Those reasons over time were convincing to me.
Bravo to you friend!
You were intellectually honest and introspective...and willing to follow where the evidence led because truth was what was important to you. Well done although it can be a difficult journey, it's a journey worth while.
@@NA-vz9ko thank you
@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 I remember as a Christian, asking atheists if they’d follow truth, wherever it leads. Of course i believed it lead to Jesus so was trying to encourage them to follow truth and arrive at Jesus. I suppose it took that seriously, and truth lead me out of Christianity.
My starting point was when I got into form criticism, and textual criticism. I thought a deeper dive into that stuff will only support the truth of gods eternal word. I would say things like, obviously Jesus didn’t deny Jesus 9 separate times. Ancient storytelling was like that. I understood how they played fast and loose with Old Testament prophecy.
I remember a conversion with my brother and he was frustrated and wanted to know what parts of the Bible are actually true. I remember telling him that was part of the fun of it, trying to solve the puzzle and use these criticisms to figure out what was authentic.
I continued to have to refine what Christianity was as I kept losing parts of it the more I learned. Until at some point, all I had was the resurrection.
And then I didn’t even have that anymore. And I remember saying “I’m an atheist.” It didn’t feel weird or anything. The process was so slow of deconversion that when I finally got there, I sort of just admitted what I had subconsciously known for a while now. I’m an atheist.
@@justinabajian1087 thanks for sharing your journey. I have not been a believer since about the age of 10 when the stories didn't make sense and my questions were never met with a satisfying answer. But I grew up in the UK and although nominally Christian I wasn't indoctrinated. My parents were believers in some type of vague Christian God but they couldn't supply any good reasons when I asked them why they believe and they no longer are. But I find it endlessly fascinating to listen to people telling me what they believe and more importantly why...as I could be wrong and I want to know the truth... but as you found the more you actually learn and question the more the religious claims evaporate.
I found a wonderfully brilliant series of videos by Evid3nc3 describing his deconstruction and it was illuminating. Luckily living in the UK religion is generally regarded as a private thing and the evangelical types are rare and avoided by the average person.
Having an honest discussion with someone religious is interesting but when I am told I know god exists but just want to sin (which is obviously not true and if I did know god existed and I wanted to sin I would sin and then become Christian and have my sins forgiven and get into heaven despite my sins) or that God's existence is obvious I just haven't been willing to look or let jesus in or some other guff it just proves the other person isn't even willing to entertain the idea that I have seriously looked and still find the God claim has failed to meet it's burden of proof.
Sorry I went off a bit there but it's often frustrating but discussing your own journey and thoughts has been a pleasure and a breath of fresh air as it were. Best wishes.
The attack on science in this movie is mind-boggling. Movies, shows, and social media posts like this, erode (pun intended) the confidence in scientific models and make teaching science a chore. As a science teacher, I've found myself having to defend the models as much as I teach them. Add these problems to our current political climate in the states, and you have the making of a de-evolving public. Its "Idiocracy" in the making. 🤦🏻♂️
Only in some countries like the USA. The USA is not the whole world. Really enlightens the decline and the coming of a better new world order from the east. Nations are reaping what they've sown. In our case- anti-intellectualism, trembling in fear of a "demon haunted world."
Peer pressure and empathy for the feelings of others always scared me away from telling my parents and my grandparents and all the other people I was supposed to trust what I honestly think of their religion.
I really feel terrible for bearing false witness to them for all those years.
Don’t.
The fault is theirs for being so cruel as to make you afraid of them.
U should repent to Christ, and rethink all this atheism bogus ur being brainwashed into believing. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, the light. ✝️
We all do the best we can with what we have at the time.
@@LordOfThePancakesdid it hurt when the space aliens removed your brain through that rectal probe?
it's amazing how willfully ignorant these cultists are. I find I have no choice to assume they are simply not intelligent.
As a geologist, it drives me nuts when they simply lie and it's a stupid lie.
But look how much more quickly they are able to come to conclusions, without having to actually do any science!
I get ya, I’m a biochemist interested in abiogenesis. Drives me nuts too!
i dont like calling people unintelligent even if i find their beliefs and epistemology i credibly silly amd annoying. but i agree its really hard to stay nice with these types. so overconfident in their wrongness.
As a former Christian and former evolution-denier, it has little to do with intelligence. It’s indoctrination. You’re born into a community where nearly everyone believes as you do and has been fed the same misinformation. You’re told that only atheists believe evolution and they only believe it *because* they’re atheists. You’re told that atheist = immoral and evil. You’re told that Christianity is the only true religion and only the Bible is 100% reliable.
By the time you finish high school, your thinking is hemmed in by thick walls that you can’t even fully perceive because you’re so used to it. A challenge to your religious assumptions is a challenge to your entire identity and worldview. It’s intensely risky.
I changed my mind because (a) I am highly intelligent and can understand scientific explanations, (b) I’m curious and want to understand how things work, (c) I got to know people outside the fundagelical milieu, and (d) I suffered real religious trauma and was willing to consider alternatives.
I’m still a theist (by a very loose definition), but it’s taken decades to untangle my thinking and understand what’s demonstrable fact and what is subjective experience.
Argument from atheism fallacy
@@LordOfThePancakes nice to see you inventing nonsense and unable to show I'm wrong.
As a person who was directly involved in designing and fabricating the integrated circuits involved in Moore's Law, I have to bite my own tongue to listen to their computer BS. I actually designed and fabricated the simplest possible IC, a photodarlington, an IC with 2 transistors and 2 pins. Near the end of my career I worked on smartphone ICs with billions of transistors. Today, ICs with over 50 billion transistors are commonplace. If this shows that science is unreliable, personal computers (I designed and built my first one in 1976) and smartphones can't possibly exist.
Of course, the theater is filled with children. Of course.
Through a certain lens, the ancient Hebrew creation myth could be seen as a children's story...
Got to get them young.
How sad. This kinda stuff should have at least an R rating.
'God helps those who go to church.'
Parent, glaring at children: God help them if they don't.
@@doranku Gotta catch them all!
Still miss Sci Strike movie nights.
I agree and the Atheist Pug😥
@@55Quirll he was one of first small debunkers I stumbled upon, found paulogia there. And still see lots of people in chats everywhere that used to frequent those late Fridays/early Saturdays.
@@doranku I enjoyed watching him and the Atheist Pug, Bill Ludlow was another good one but he died too. Both were very good.
This “ movie “ was an insult to any intelligent person.
😊
I think it's an insult to stupid people too. I mean, anyone showing it to stupid people thinks they can only take information like that, but even stupid people will understand reality when you explain it properly.
Can only imagine the amount of ankle length denim skirts at that theater during this movie's premiere...
so true it hurts
@@Paulogia Huge fan, thanks for all you do Paulogia!!
How many people in "courtships" showed up to side-hug each other at this premiere? lol
This made me chuckle as an ex-pentecostal. 😂
That's a lot of dead denims!
Just the fact that the Chinese and the North and South American Indians were not affected by any flood, disproves a global flood.
Wrong. Chinese did have quite some impact by the flood. N A Indians also have stories about floods.
@@lcf2366 Having stories about floods and your ancestors not being completely wiped out by the flood are two different things.A global flood would not leave any ancestors alive to pass down the stories.
@@shriggs55 No. Just like Noah's ark, there were survivors elsewhere. Different floods had different impacts on people.
@@lcf2366 Wrong. The chinese story is about a two generation long flood that caused problems in one region (not the world). The indians had a story about a water monster god attacking people because their main god was angry.
Some were just better swimmers.
Paul I'm insulted. You had the perfect opportunity to insert one of my favorite Simpsons clips. 'Excuse me, but proactive and paradigm? Aren’t these just buzzwords that dumb people use to sound important? Not that I’m accusing you of anything like that'. They must've said Paradigm like 20 times.
I'm sorry for the loss of your friend and colleague, SciStrike. This video is an excellent monument to him.
*The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.***
*Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.***
***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service.
*"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"*
*"Sumerian Is the World's Oldest Written Language | ProLingo"*
*"Sumerian Civilization: Inventing the Future - World History Encyclopedia"*
("The Sumerians were the people of southern Mesopotamia whose civilization flourished between c. 4100-1750 BCE."
"Ancient Israelites and their origins date back to 1800-1200 BCE.")
*"The Myth of Adapa - World History Encyclopedia"*
Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her 1st lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:50 to 14:30 minutes, lecture 3 from 28:30 to 41:35 minutes, lecture 4 from 0:00 up to 21:30 minutes and 24:00 up to 35:30 minutes and lecture 7 from 24:20 to 25:10 minutes.
From a Biblical scholar:
"Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."*
*"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"*
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In addition, look up the below articles.
*"Yahweh was just an ancient Canaanite god. We have been deceived! - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"*
*"Hammurabi - World History Encyclopedia"*
(Hammurabi (r. 1792-1750 BCE) was the sixth king of the Amorite First Dynasty of Babylon best known for his famous law code which served as the model for others, *including the Mosaic Law of the Bible.)*
*"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"*
*"The Greatest Trick Religion Ever Pulled: Convincing Us That Satan Exists | Atheomedy"*
*"Zoroastrianism And Persian Mythology: The Foundation Of Belief"*
(Scroll to the last section: Zoroastrianism is the Foundation of Western Belief)
*"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"*
*"January | 2014 | Atheomedy"* - Where the Hell Did the Idea of Hell Come From?
*"Retired bishop explains the reason why the Church invented "Hell" - Ideapod"*
Watch *"The Origins of Salvation, Judgement and Hell"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica
(Sensitive theists should only watch from 7:00 to 17:30 minutes as evangelical Christians are lambasted. He's a former theist and has been studying the scholarship and comparative religions for over 15 years)
*"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"*
*"Forget about Noah's Ark; There Was No Worldwide Flood | Bible Interp"*
*"The Search for Noah’s Flood - Biblical Archaeology Society"*
*"Eridu Genesis - World History Encyclopedia"*
*"The Atrahasis Epic: The Great Flood & the Meaning of Suffering - World History Encyclopedia"*
Watch *"How Aron Ra Debunks Noah's Flood"*
(8 part series debunking Noah's flood using multiple branches of science)
*"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"*
*"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"*
*"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"*
*"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"*
*"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"*
*"Studying the Bible"* - by Dr Steven DiMattei
(This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies)
*"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei
*"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
Thank you for this; greatly appreciated!
@@joshuagies4900 You're welcome.
Channelling isn't observed in the strata at the GRAND effing CANYON???? ARE THESE GUYS SERIOUS??? I gotta pace myself. Only 14 minutes in and I'm already losing it.
The level of sheer dishonesty and twisted language in the first few minutes of that film is so shockingly obvious, it makes you want to pull your hair out that even religious folks in the audience couldn't spot it.
People sing songs without comprehending the lyrics...'Every Step You Take' is a good, old, example
This movie seems to keep teetering back and forth on whether or not science is a trustworthy method of understanding. Creationists will proudly proclaim that the scientific method isnt a good metric to study our world and will do everything in thier power to poke holes in our established understanding. Only to then rely on imagined dissent within the scientific community in a pathetic attempt to boost their claims.
"science is like a religion" implies being a religion is bad
Radiometric dating is reliable when studies on the Turin Shroud show it to be 2000 years old, but not when they don't, or when applied to rocks and fossils. Go figure.
They’re inconsistent about almost everything. They grab onto which ever argument seems useful or compelling to them in the moment, because bolstering their preferred conclusion in their own minds is the point.
I discovered the existence of creationists thanks to CZcams 15 years ago. I am still amazed that grown ass men willfully believe Noah's story, which any 5 year old can see is a (horrific) fable
I grew up in the LDS church and i had no idea that some people took everything in the scriptures literally. I never believed any of it, i went from "knowing" it was true as a small child directly to knowing it made no sense at around 10, but my impression was always that the stories weren't meant to be taken word for word
Paulogia, took me awhile to get here! This was excellent! A little sad, though!😢 SciStrike worked at the Phoenix Museum, a few hours from me, we'd planned to meet there. A few others, too, as he was planning a video with Aron Ra. I was jazzed as I would get to meet them. He was going to the 'ark encounter' protest, I think, and was so sweet he took a big detour to pick up Lavender Lady so she could attend, as Bionic Dance couldn't, after all. I believe it was on his way home that we lost him. But this video sure showed how he knew and loved his field! Thankyou for putting this out.👍🏻💙💙💙🥰✌🏻
RIP SciStrike
CZcams asked me to rate your video. I Gave it 5 stars and told them it was informative, inspiring and a few other selections that fit the genre.
A great response video and an awesome way to honor Sci Strike!
Great work!
That hat guy’s “mm-hm”s remind me of a churches “uh huh, amen, preach it”s that they murmur along with a sermon.
Randomness is literally a critical aspect of things like genetic algorithms and machine learning processes. Some of the most sophisticated computer programs today (e.g. ChatGPT) absolutely require randomness.
Creationists stop saying randomness cannot possibly improve a computer program! It can and does!
Creationist sound-smarterer vocabulary guide:
"Objective" = betterer!
"Subjective" = worserer!
"Random" = dumbdumb
So, Christians, creationists are an expression of randomness?
Is genesis a bronze age herder's cosmology?
No, it is a classical age city-dwellers' cosmology. Close enough, I guess.
(Paraphrased) Coach from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air: "When you make an assumption, you look like an *ASS* and the *UMP* will *SHUN* you!"
I prefer "When we ASSUME, it makes an ASS of U and ME."
It's hard to believe that mature, educated adults believe fairy tales.
It may be difficult to believe, but here's the evidence. These people exist. Amazing
Might I introduce you to Christian dominionists?
Oh my goodness, I just rewatched this series on your Playlist (Last week, I think.). First, I have to rewatch Gutsick Gibbons' re-edit of her mud video. Then I will watch this again.
Why are there never human fossils mixed in with the dinosaurs victims of the flood, not a single one though they were contemporaneous, according to these geniuses.
Simple answer: no. Longer answer: _Hell NO! For the thumbnail tells me so..._
Sigh. I miss SciStrike! and Buster the pug. If there is a heaven, remember all dogs go there!
*Regarding matters of science, one must **_turn to the Bible for the real truth_** .*
Both sad & hilarious.
The fact that this movie did so well (relatively speaking) is a bit depressing. They used the sediment deposited by Mount St. Helens' eruption, sediment that you can literally watch being distributed in the surviving film and photography of the event, to support their claim of a global flood _and_ compared it to the Grand Canyon. And some people nod their heads and go 'Yup, gotcha atheists/old Earthers'. Anyone with even the slightest bit of critical thinking should have gotten up and left at that point. That no one did just reinforces my belief that the target audience for this were the type of student that slept through their science classes.
Abel was a literal _shepherd,_ as in 'the person that watched over, cares for, and herds *sheep.* Last time I checked, sheep are _mammals._ So why aren't any mammals found in these rock layers that were supposedly deposited *after* Abel was murdered?
Why don't sites like Göbekli Tepe(1) show any signs of a world-wide flood? It's a site whose organic remains buried in and around the monuments have been dated to *_9500 BCE._*
Genetic mutation is chaotic(see: Chaos Theory), *not* random(again, see Chaos Theory). Mutations due to damage or replication error to the patterns of the nucleotides can cause unpredictable but not random propagation effects. Typically, one mutation isn't going to make much difference, but many insignificant mutations added together via reproduction could produce a noticeable change over time. And that last bit is where they seem to struggle with the most. They can't seem to comprehend just how big a timescale we are talking about.
(1) Thanks Miniminuteman for introducing me to this site.
Erika's (Gutsick Gibbon) video on the Mud Problem has just been uploaded and also worth a watch.
It leaves Creationists with a lot of dirt on the faces.
Why do so many of these creationists appear to have no actual education at all, but approach the topic like grade school kids?
So, the "astrophysicist explaining how light that is millions of light years away, and the rapid maturing" has a trickster god.
It's truly fascinating how the whole movie is about 'proving that the Bible is right' and yet each and every single claim is either backed up by *Cue Jingle* 'Because the Bible Told Me So!' , Logical Fallacies, and 'Just trust me bro.'
Being disingenuous and outright dishonest is the only way for creationists to argue against the immense quantity of actual fact science has amassed. For them, these lies are the right tool for the job.
This is how I found your channel, when I’d watched this movie an rss alert in Dec 18’ or Jan 19’ on Google gave me a heads up.
Best alert ever!
agree
So did I.
1:37:12 for this I like to bring up the "mudskipper will never be an amphibian" argument. The mudskipper is a fish that is an obvious transitional form, it can breathe air temporarily at least, crawl on its fins, and its eyes are on the top of its head rather than the sides. These are all adaptations that allow it to live in very shallow water and even dry land for a short time. However, it IS still a fish, not an amphibian, and it will NEVER evolve into an amphibian, even if its fins become full on legs, even if it loses its gills and has only lungs, even if it begins to reproduce on land, it WON'T be an amphibian, because that isn't how evolution works. The amphibian is a group of animals that evolved over 600 million years ago from something that probably was a mudskipper's distant ancestor, but just like how bats are not birds, birds are not pterosaurs, and pterosaurs are not dragonflies, just because it evolves a similar body plan to something exists or existed in the past, whatever pseudo-amphibious creature that mudskipper's descendants evolve into will NOT be true amphibians because that's just how taxonomy works.
This is a long video to just say the word "No". And that's really all the answer that that stupid question deserves. 😆
At the risk of upsetting those who are scientifically illiterate, I think it's important to bear in mind a relevant quote from Neil deGrass Tyson -
"The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you!"
If you're looking for "things to make sense," rather than looking for actual evidence, then you're not doing science. If your conclusion is "That doesn't make a whole lot of sense..." then you've abandoned the scientific method, in favour of finding a pleasing narrative. The fact that Creationists do this should come as no surprise. However, I don't think we point this out to them, anywhere near enough! We should take them to task over this, EVERY time they stupidly announce that "this doesn't make much sense..." In fact, most scientific breakthroughs start with the exclamation "Hmmm... That's odd!" In reality, scientific observations don't need to "make sense." They just need to be consistent with the laws of objective reality (ie- chemistry/ physics). If an observation appears to violate the laws of physics, it's a good bet that what's really happening is that you don't understand the laws of physics. The classic example being the vacuous assumption that cosmology/ evolution violates the laws of thermodynamics (more specifically, the 2nd law and how it relates to entropy). The reality here is that creationists simply don't understand this law and thus fail to account for closed vs open systems, which includes the input of energy from the sun. Doing so shows how plaintively bleating the creationist position truly is.
As much as I appreciate these older videos, I'm glad that Paul has moved on. Debunking creation science is like shooting fish in a barrel. Paul's new focus on Christian history and philosophy is like shooting fish in a kiddie pool. Much more entertaining.
I guess Christians are a bit obsessed with this topic. In the world of science there is no debate about this issue and there hasn't been one in over a century. The Earth, the Sun, our solar system are very very old. Period.
RiP Sci we still miss you ❤
Your breaking 9th commandment comment was brutal. Awesome
The track argument is so dumb. Which will there be more of: things that can walk, or the number of times things have walked. If you've walked more than once in your life, you know which there are more of, which is therefore mathematically more likely.
I think this fella w the glasses' actual voice just sounds like someone told AI "make it sound like a nice smartass grandpa" 😂
whiny like WLC
So if science is so unreliable, I guess the man has never flown on a plane, been to a doctor, taken his car to a mechanic? Even eaten at a restaurant for that matter.
The problem with Christian apologists is that because their Christian audience don’t understand things, they assume nobody does.
The complexity argument is so ridiculous. That is the opposite of "good design" or "intelligent design".
These people are like the guy who dies in the flood and asks "WTF?"
Then their god says "I sent you a boat, a helicopter.. What were you expecting?"
What?
I have to mention this whenever the “one small change will cause software to catastrophically fail” and “software can’t come about from random changes” argument comes out. Sorry, no on both counts. First, most software bugs don’t cause crashes, they tend to be annoyances that you can often work around, such that the software continues to be useful. Inferior software often wins in the marketplace because, like in nature, “fitness” is determined by the environment more than some Platonic ideal. Second, computer scientists have successfully written software using random mutations of code. All they had to do was introduce replication and a selection mechanism. The thing creationists leave out in their analogy is that software is typically generated by humans, not by reproduction with random modification and selection.
And let's not even start discussing the happy accident bugs that we leave in as "features".
Thank you for sharing. Sorry for the loss of your friend.
The people who wrote the Bible never knew there were 2 places on the Earth that would be in perpetual day and perpetual night for months out of the year. A God who created the Earth would have known that and included it in his fan fiction.
the fact that cinemas allow this kind of trash in theatres in the USA is just pathetic...
Of course it should be allowed! Just because they are wrong doesn't mean we should abolish free speech.
I mean... money is money, whether it's coming from some overly-credulous theist or not.
@@LukeSumIpsePatremTe why are you pretending I remotely said anything even resembling abolishing free speech? And if you imagine I said anything remotely connected to free speech, how do you even have the idea cinemas COULD abolish it? Were you trying to be as weird and wrong as possible?
I was, obviously, speaking about the movie being trash (you can tell by.... that's what I said), and the cinema's lowering their standards to allow that level of garbage being shown is pathetic. I did not in any way even hint at the idea that the goverment should force cinemas to not show trashy movies because they are religious. I don't know how you managed to get such an absurd notion. "those cinemas are pathetic" doesn't even remotely resemble "free speech should be abolished".
@@nagranoth_,
It's trash... but cinemas show trash _all_ the time. Why would a religious propaganda piece be treated any different from any other movie if the theater is getting paid to show it?
@@aralornwolf3140 ROFL. In the US maybe. In other countries cinemas actually have some standards. And ehm.... movie theaters have to BUY the rights to show movies, they don't normally get paid to show movies, not unless you hire the whole cinema for a private event.
2 1/2 hours of Paulogia?!!! LET'S GOOOO!
I’ve had many creationists point me to this film in a bid opening my eyes. 😂
Peace to you and all who loved your friend, Paul. Thanks for all you do. 🖖
PAULLLLL i live in between missoula and spokane!!! thats so crazy i literally am jumping up and down im so excited to hear my backyard being talked about by the field i love so much. I personally love love love studying the missoula flood, spokanes flooding, the glacial recessiona and the movement of the indegenous people and the amanita mushrooms across the continent as the floods happened, and mt st helens! this video is so fricken sick!:))))
Ha! Enjoy! I visited Missoula several times as a kid... beautiful place.
@@Paulogia i live up in little old aspestos ridden Libby, montana. ive heard about mt st helens my whole life, this area inbetween spokane and missoula is the best forest ever! lol no offense to CA
That movie should have an 18 certificate, And be labelled fantasy.
DNA is not an assumption, it's 100% proof of evolution.
I feel like I should just take a second to recognize how badass Paul is. Seriously, I really appreciate how much work you put into these videos. I know every time you put something out, I can trust the information to be thoroughly(and properly) researched. Can't ask for better than that. Also I just heard your deconversion story recently and it really hit home...right up to the point of dropping the book. Thanks for sharing that and thanks for all the work you do(including the work on Star wars...I'm a massive fan if you can't tell from my photo lol)
Thank you so much for the kind words! They mean much. (Miss Layer? Mis Slayer? Mi Slayer?)
@@Paulogia I'll answer to any of those 😉
‘Science is an unreliable path’ - and Sweet Jesus is so reliable, even though he is 2000 years overdue 🤣
They don’t really mean it though. They rely on it in most areas, like everyone, and discard it when it threatens some dearly held belief.
Wow. So great to hear Sci-Strikes voice again. A great man that is sorely missed.
Can we call geologist Steve Austin, "Cold Stone Austin?"
We watched this in my christian school bible class. It was so obviously bogus. I actually was losing my mind. Thank you for making this. My 16 year old self would have loved this
"Is Genesis History?"
No.
That's it.
Hope all is well Paul! This was a big project. As always your work is so well put together. Thank you for your work.
Aww, right in the feels seeing that pug again. I still miss my parasocial friend SciStrike, even if my face palm protection never arrived in the post.
I wish people would confront the flood myth with the simple question "You say that the Earth was completely flooded, so where did all that water come from, but more importantly where did it go?". I am not sure if I have seen this question before, but I wish it was a primary point. And yes they will most likely say "God did it" but it's just as good of a point as the Ark not being even remotely able to carry all the animals.
most creation ministries, like answers in genesis, have extensive articles and theories on this. I believe the most popular is "fountains of the deep" described in Genesis as reservoirs of water below the surface at the time. they also hold that there were no mountains pre-flood, so less water is needed to cover them up.
"It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit."
It literally says in Genesis, the water comes from Tehom. Since we know Tehom doesn’t actually exist, it kind of ruins the whole story, which is why nobody likes to talk about it.
If I had a nickle for every time there was a Steve Austin that's famous and not a creationist I'd only have 2 nickles but it's strange it happened twice.
Wouldn't you prefer two nickels?
They were probably pissed off when they discovered they weren't bionic and felt cheated by science. They then turned to magic to deal with the heartbreak.
@@DavidSmith-vr1nb Maybe just likes fish.
I am 70-y-o. I grew up with a fundamentalist evangelical father. He was a dyed in the wool, Republican Goldwater, man from my earliest memories of politics. We used to argue about politics all through my teens and early adult years. But we never argued about religion because I considered myself a Christian also. Until my lazy self education about the truth of the Bible and Christianity, led me away. The year before my father died, when he was 93, he said to me, “you’d probably be surprised on my beliefs on the age of the universe and evolution”. It turned out he came to believe in evolution and believe that the universe was 14 billion years old. He was also a low-level amateur Greek scholar. He started his own church that I grew up in. He wrote several books about the Bible God, etc. But six months before he died he told me he no longer believed in hell. So there is hope for people like the guy in this movie-I don’t even remember his name.
2:17:50 Isn't it wonderful how the 24 hour day exactly fits the human sleep /work cycle.
Is this some sort of parody?
1:35:07 that's a horrid analogy, modern windows 11 is built over decades of smaller code changes starting from the NT kernel to the point we have it today. And you can see a bunch of vestigial bits in it, like the old settings dialogs which are the fall backs you get once you dig deep enough in the control panel, those are mostly unchanged from their earliest appearances.
Same with the linux kernel it's also a product of many smaller changes getting applied to the code base. In this case you can even inspect each and every one of them because the entire history of the kernel is public.
also they clearly never heard of evolutionary algorithms where the process is exactly that, randomly mutate some data which is part of an evaluation and then give it a score, do that multiple times and always keep the best scoring examples.
Exactly. My eyes rolled down my back when he touted his outdated "computer knowledge," from the 80s. My final project was exactly that, I evolved CA reservoir computing reservoirs and evolved pools of networks to play a mario bros clone.
Anyone who denies the fact of evolution by natural selection is either incredibly ignorant and autodeceptive, or plain malicious.
I tried watching the movie ... and noped out after twenty minutes. Couldn't stand the onslaught of lies. How many PhD's have "sold their soul" for a quick buck on the apologetics circuit?
well, like 99% of them have PHDs in completely unrelated fields.
@@Soapy-chan There is a video of Dr. Georgia Purdom (PhD in molecular genetics) giving a lecture on geology. AiG couldn't find a geologist?!
*Answers in Genesis Logic ;* (analogy)
From punch cards & vacuum tubes to transistors and finally micro processors,
clearly science couldn't make up it's mind, and kept getting it wrong.
As a kid who use to spend some summers at Spirt Lake the part where he is standing and says "there use to be...." couple hundred feet below him is the old State Route 504.
That people believe this creation stuff is terrifying
Christians need to argue this out amongst themselves.
Creationism according to the Bible, is a belief that most Christians don't accept.
Most Christians accept modern science, and simply give God the credit.
If Genesis would be history, I wonder, why not every culture would have known about it.
They did.
@@marcj3682 Oh really? They all say, that God did it in seven days? Even tho, all cultures had different calenders? And a diiferent number of gods?
Yes indeed. _(hypocrisy in action)_
It's perplexing how a theist could look at the great complexity of life,
and simply declare that it requires an immensely complex creator.
*Then turn around and declare, that their **_"most complex creator"_** gets a pass from this rule, because they say so.* Wow