FORSAKEN (S3E21) Saying Goodbye to Sam, Stealing Hearts & Betraying Your Father

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    Move over Aubrey Plaza, because Emily Dinsmore is back this week as we revisit Smallville Season 3 Episode 21: FORSAKEN!
    After the guys talk about the quick ascension of the young girl into a mass murderer, we talk about one of the saddest sequences in the series thus far… the farewell to Pete Ross.
    Michael talks about the emotion of the final basketball scene between Clark and Pete, while Tom speculates on the departure and what Sam’s future on the show could have been.
    Timecodes:
    0:00 - Intro
    2:01 - Forsaken
    3:27 - Return of Emily Dinsmore
    5:30 - Final game of hoops
    8:00 - Straight up murder
    9:58 - Factor
    12:40 - Policygenius
    14:50 - Exposing the rat
    17:31 - Teaing off
    18:15 - Testing the waters
    20:11 - Farewell Pete
    22:03 - Peck goodbye
    24:20 - Lionel gets locked up
    26:23 - Indeed
    27:44 - AG1
    30:29 - Hotline
    40:00 - Penultimate
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    42:20 - Show ratings
    43:23 - Ryan’s favorite scene
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    FORSAKEN (S3E21) Saying Goodbye to Sam, Stealing Hearts & Betraying Your Father #smallville #talkville #season3
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  • @cropeverything1152
    @cropeverything1152 Před 5 měsíci +69

    Lana leaving because she doesn't know Clark's secret, but Pete leaving because he knows Clark's secret. So sad😢

  • @NateKruger
    @NateKruger Před 5 měsíci +94

    You really felt the emotion from Sam not wanting to leave the show. He was such a pivotal part of the series and Clark's early development into a hero.

    • @asyouwish3636
      @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci +16

      SO MUCH MORE they could have done w Sam! such a shame, they under utilized him from the beginning smh

    • @jkhoover
      @jkhoover Před 5 měsíci +11

      I agree with Tom, promoting Chloe from non love interest to sidekick is a better fit, and there just wasn't enough to do with Sam.

  • @nathanpoirier7200
    @nathanpoirier7200 Před 5 měsíci +85

    i hope we get jensen and erica to guest star next season and get jon schnider more often since he only has 2 seasons left

    • @nicolelylewis
      @nicolelylewis Před 5 měsíci

      but he (John) guest starred in a lot of other seasons

  • @skiown
    @skiown Před 5 měsíci +37

    They never gave Pete anything to do. He clearly put real effort into his acting. It’s a shame they couldn’t find more interesting stuff for his character to do so they just wrote him off.

  • @KamiFLCL
    @KamiFLCL Před 5 měsíci +22

    Tom said Clark can't walk through walks unlike Emily. Clark can walk through walls but unlike when Emily does it, the walls just won't be there anymore. 😂

  • @artscafe9371
    @artscafe9371 Před 5 měsíci +21

    The Emily growing thing was a foreshadowing of the Lex clone later in the series as a clone grows much faster; that's what I think lol

    • @clausvivas
      @clausvivas Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yep

    • @TalkVillePodcast
      @TalkVillePodcast  Před 5 měsíci +8

      interesting. need to remember that then

    • @artscafe9371
      @artscafe9371 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@TalkVillePodcast Tell Michael I am a fan of HIS acting in everything he is in and that he is my hero in so far as his advice saved my life :)
      I like him, great guy, from Ireland :)

  • @chrisf3280
    @chrisf3280 Před 5 měsíci +39

    Awesome stuff. One more S3 episode to go.... but who else is super excited for S4???? the gang and I here are pumped!!! LETS GOOO!!!!

    • @asyouwish3636
      @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci +13

      omg I CAN'T WAIT til we get to Lois! and I really really really hope they bring Erica Durance for the 1st podcast of S4 🤗🤗🤗

    • @TalkVillePodcast
      @TalkVillePodcast  Před 5 měsíci +11

      can't wait. one more episode. a big one

    • @vanarr6902
      @vanarr6902 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Yeah, gosh we need Lois!! ❤

  • @lys8573
    @lys8573 Před 5 měsíci +23

    I loved hearing that insight from Tom about the loft scene with Clarke and Lana. I thought it was so beautifully acted by both Kristin and Tom. Kristin's reaction in that moment was so perfect and you truly felt the emotion. The relationship between Clarke and Lana (even with their will they won't they arc) gave so much heart to the show.

  • @zoorenard1101
    @zoorenard1101 Před 5 měsíci +27

    The director side of Tom really came out strong today! Love it!

    • @luqir8305
      @luqir8305 Před 5 měsíci +1

      😜😜😜

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast Před 5 měsíci

      I thought his thinking was a bit rigid on the scare scene to be honest though haha. Yes, low angle shots and slow zooms are classic scary camera moves - or they can also be played out if you ALWAYS do it that way. The scene was shot fine, the main problem is this was a dumb storyline and the scene was dragged out (possibly also the director's fault but not a camera problem).

  • @jeffn4836
    @jeffn4836 Před 5 měsíci +10

    I always imagined that Clark would super speed to Wichita on the weekends to see his friend.

    • @DarthDread-oh2ne
      @DarthDread-oh2ne Před 5 měsíci +1

      Me too.

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast Před 5 měsíci +1

      That's actually awesome haha. Now Iim just laughing at the idea of the show writing it in but still not actually filming it so it's just constant minor mentions of Wichita in the Kent house.

  • @nickhydier1201
    @nickhydier1201 Před 5 měsíci +38

    The scene with Lex saving Pete from FBI Agent Loder was a great scene. Loved how Lex told Pete that he was a good friend. Especially for Clark. I always got the sense in that moment how much Lex cared for Pete as well as Clark. Honestly makes it sadder when Lex turns later in the series.

    • @asyouwish3636
      @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci +5

      omg yes! lol last night when I was watching it to prep for the podcast I wanted to like make a meme or something for Michael cuz he says in literally every convention and interview how it's Clark's fault Lex turns evil cuz it drove him crazy not knowing the truth! lol wanna be like SEE even Lex knew Clark shouldn't tell him 😂😂😂

    • @asyouwish3636
      @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci +4

      and also so so heartbreaking cuz I think in retrospect S3 is the end for Lex, by S4 he's sealed his fate to be evil (even though we still have hope for him in S5) so seeing how he really was genuinely trying to be a good friend and an honest person just makes his later choices to embrace being the villain much more tragic.

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Which makes it weird in season 7 when Pete still hates Lex

    • @nickhydier1201
      @nickhydier1201 Před 5 měsíci

      @@asyouwish3636 Absolutely, I always held out hope for Lex to still be good even up through season 5.

    • @nickhydier1201
      @nickhydier1201 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ninjanibba4259 Yes, it does. You'd think Pete would have had a little respect for Lex after moments like this.

  • @tinatinarmainteresebs9255
    @tinatinarmainteresebs9255 Před 5 měsíci +26

    I am just buzzing with excitement, because it's one more episode and then we'll finally get to LOIS, THE QUEEN! I've been waiting for this for 3 seasons lol, I *need* the podcast to reach the 4th season 😂

    • @Melissa.Garrett
      @Melissa.Garrett Před 5 měsíci +9

      I’m desperately hoping that Erica will hop on here for some episodes. She was just beyond special as Lois Lane, no-one comes close.

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I need it to reach 5 and 6, especially how they rank things in the podcast and the shows trajectory changes after 4, it won’t be so easy to find Ryan’s favorite scene when a bunch of scenes are part of the larger stories

    • @vanarr6902
      @vanarr6902 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Same here, and I can’t believe it is about to happen! We need Lois!!

  • @richard6216
    @richard6216 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Michael, the closing of the eyes after Lionel is taken away. Just brilliant acting. Reflected Lex's relief after a battle he thought he wouldn't win.

  • @Superwolf22
    @Superwolf22 Před 5 měsíci +12

    Damn, I can’t believe I didn’t know about Talkville. I binged watched every Talkville episode for a week and a half straight and I’m finally caught up!! I’m so pumped to have Smallville back in my life! #alwaysholdontosmallville #handblast!

  • @nickhydier1201
    @nickhydier1201 Před 5 měsíci +14

    This episode had a lot of good things. Was great to see Emily Dinsmore again as an older girl. Really enjoyed seeing Pete and Clark shooting hoops, hadn't seen that in some time. The scene of Emily going through the wall of water during the confrontation with Clark was well done and still holds up. Jonathan's heart to heart regarding Lana was another great father/son moment between them. Pete's farewell to Clark was so heartfelt. Really felt for both Clark and Pete. How hard it was for both to say goodbye and how much they didn't want to. The loft scene with Clark and Lana was a very sweet, tender moment as well. Happy Wednesday guys!!😀🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤

    • @asyouwish3636
      @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci +2

      yeah alot of great points in this ep.
      I think I originally had given up hope for Clark and Lana by the middle of S3 after the horse trampling and the up and down w Adam etc but after re-watch I get it. plus after all the introspection from the podcast, it still stings but I'm alot more forgiving of the back and forth now. it is what it is lol plus... it drove for the Clark/Lois love story to be the best of superman and one of the best of all TV couples

    • @nickhydier1201
      @nickhydier1201 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@asyouwish3636 Yeah, I always continued to have hope for Clark/Lana. Really wanted Lana to have remained a part of Clark's life even up to season 9/10. He definitely could have used her support in those seasons.

    • @asyouwish3636
      @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci

      @nickhydier1201 yup! they could have had them be a great couple in HS, and S4-5 could have seen them navigate the aftermath of breaking up and becoming friends. could have make for natural conflict instead of the forced drama we got in S6 and the dumpster fire of S7. but it is what it is... still a great show despite the few frustrations here and there

  • @asrotties
    @asrotties Před 5 měsíci +6

    I was hoping to see Sam on as a special guest. Each character in Smallville had a special place in Clark developing into Superman. I understand why this decision had to be made but it was always nice for Clark to have a friend who KNEW his secret and he could talk to about things that he couldn't do with others.

  • @jameselgin1334
    @jameselgin1334 Před 5 měsíci +12

    I think Rosey has a point, Clark definitely whispered something to Lana I think it was… “Damn, who’s that?”

  • @JPDarkHeart02
    @JPDarkHeart02 Před 5 měsíci +5

    "I'm sorry Clark..."
    How Sam delivered that line was sad and hilarious at the same time for me. But no more "Damn, who's that"... the end of an era

  • @enviroearth2289
    @enviroearth2289 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Ryan, it's not the last basketball scene with Pete! In season 7 hero, they play basketball

    • @ashleyryan1
      @ashleyryan1 Před 2 měsíci

      It's the last for Ryan who hasn't seen that and of Pete being on kind of regularly. 😅

  • @JieTie
    @JieTie Před 5 měsíci +151

    Well, see ya Pete. It's a real shame actor didn't join podcast even though guys tried reaching him few times

    • @spencergsmith
      @spencergsmith Před 5 měsíci +38

      Maybe they can convince him to come in for the episode he guest starred in Season 7.

    • @JieTie
      @JieTie Před 5 měsíci +16

      @@spencergsmith heh, we will find out in 2-3 years since now :D. I will definetly write a comment then :D.

    • @themooch5454
      @themooch5454 Před 5 měsíci

      They are being nice on air but for years he was notoriously a piece of shit and burnt tons of bridges. So im not shocked he didnt join the podcast

    • @MKF30
      @MKF30 Před 5 měsíci +16

      Didn't the actor get into some legal trouble and I seem to remember reading something about him making an adult movie with a girlfriend or something? Lol

    • @cellmate1
      @cellmate1 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@MKF30
      Yes

  • @aryanascardigan
    @aryanascardigan Před 5 měsíci +31

    This episode was bittersweet, especially with this being Pete's last episode. When I first saw it I actually thought Clark would tell Lana, but to protect her he didn't. I always loved Pete on the show and I thought he was a great addition. Thanks again guys ❤️

  • @CoffeewithStephanie
    @CoffeewithStephanie Před 5 měsíci +9

    Watching Pete leave was just as heartbreaking to watch today, as it was back in the day 😢

    • @asyouwish3636
      @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci +4

      YESSS 💔 and he really crushed his last scene! 👏

  • @heikira438
    @heikira438 Před 5 měsíci +6

    18:40 Ryan's reaction to Rosey's dad joke 😂

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast Před 5 měsíci +1

      I didn't catch it because I was howling with laughter 😁

  • @Next_Cruise_Please
    @Next_Cruise_Please Před 5 měsíci +3

    Tom should have had a chance to guess Ryan's favorite scene after he disclosed the three options. What a good sport.

  • @matthagmann
    @matthagmann Před 5 měsíci +1

    Chef’s kiss for the summary writing and Rosey’s read of, “Lionel exposes the bald rat’s wire”

  • @theresemarkham9387
    @theresemarkham9387 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Keeping a secret like Clark’s would be a heavy burden. I am glad that Pete admitted that. I am glad that he didn’t tell Lana as well.

  • @enviroearth2289
    @enviroearth2289 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Great scene, perfect portrayal of saying goodbye to a friend. Its not clarks fault, its just pete couldn't handle the enormity of the secret. Pete was a great friend. Great acting Sam

  • @ace360
    @ace360 Před 5 měsíci +16

    😂 Tom with The Indiana Jones reference killed me haha, I love how the hint at Cloning that Lex will pick up from he's Father down the road, The slow motion of Emily Getting taken care of with Water in that Fight with Clark was awesome!, Gowd That ending scene with Lionel Luthor and That Cold line talks about Judas to Lex! John Glover Brilliant!👏 and yup Sam's Final episode for this onion ninjas Amazing moment with Clark and Pete hugging Sam Jones Proformace and Tom Welling killed it!😢 In Honor of Pete "Damn Who's That?!" Thanks Guy's ❤️💙 Rose in a half for Me 🌹🤘

  • @ShadowBend
    @ShadowBend Před 5 měsíci +3

    I like how Tom was like "I said my favorite scene, thats that" 🤣. It was a strong one for sure.

  • @thevoiceoftheseagull7413
    @thevoiceoftheseagull7413 Před 5 měsíci +7

    The final scene of Forsaken, the scene in which Clark is forsaken by Pete his best friend, his brother, is so beautiful, sad, deep and strongly emotional and you can see it clearly in Clark's dazed, frozen and hurt look (Tom's sad, empty eyes staring into the distance are priceless) and in Pete's intense and pained look. I always watch this scene with great emotion as I feel the same feeling of abandonment in Clark and the same conflicted pain in Pete. Hats off to Tom and Sam for their superb performance and for conveying so much emotion not only with words but especially with their eyes. With Pete's exit, another chapter of Clark's adolescence ends, opening up more and more to the difficult and painful path that Clark is facing step by step to become the greatest Superhero of all time.
    And furthermore, due to what happened to Pete, Clark is forced once again to give up on opening up to Lana.
    Thank you so much guys for another great episode of Talk Ville. I love you.❤❤❤

  • @theresemarkham9387
    @theresemarkham9387 Před 5 měsíci +20

    Love this podcast and y’all. It was so sad that this was Pete’s last episode. Sam did such a great job in this role. I definitely agree with Tom about Chole being more confident. One of my favorite lines was when Pete referred to Lex as Uncle Fester. A great Adams Family reference. The line were Jonathan says that he trusts Clark’s judgement but not his own was powerful. When Chole reveals to Lex that she has the voice mail I thought that was a great scene. One thing I noticed when Emily kills her dad you see the blood, but the other guy no blood. I like how they explained the walking through walls thing. When realize that Lionel was using Lex as a pawn this whole time that was powerful. When Lex saved Pete that was a great scene. When Lex brought his father down you could definitely see the pain on his face. So many powerful performances. Best podcast ever!!

    • @TalkVillePodcast
      @TalkVillePodcast  Před 5 měsíci +9

      love Sam. damn whos that

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      @barbaraalice8056 Před 5 měsíci

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  • @justaguy7230
    @justaguy7230 Před 5 měsíci +4

    What doesn’t make sense to me is how the water tower actually fell fast enough to affect Emily. She’s running at the speed of light, and the tower just fell at normal speed.

    • @artscafe9371
      @artscafe9371 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Not the speed of light or she'd time travel, even Flash or Impulse as its called on this, would not reach light speed until later. Clark runs at the speed of sound, Emily a bit less. Clark hit the tower ages before she reached it.

  • @RJ_Cormac
    @RJ_Cormac Před 5 měsíci +3

    Sam leaving for Jensen just proves they would never stop the love triangles

  • @OneResone
    @OneResone Před 5 měsíci +3

    U agree with Tom on how frustrating it is that Emily kinda just knows all the powers she has and how to use them at instant. That carries through a whole series, like whenever someone takes Clarks powers they just know everything and how to use it and how to control it, but we had like the whole episode build ups on how Clark managed to get control and to learn how to use every power he has. It lacks consistency really. All in all 1.5 roses for this one

  • @Costas22
    @Costas22 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Sigh, I hoped you guys would have Sam Jones as a guest for this one! Pete had a very emotional send off (kudos to both Sam and Tom for the acting!) and he won't be back for 3.5 years.
    At least call him up when TalkVille reached Hero in 2025, lol.

    • @leannepritchett6323
      @leannepritchett6323 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I know they have been trying.. I believe Sam is shooting something right now .

  • @jeffh06
    @jeffh06 Před 5 měsíci +2

    8:40 Tom must be Harrison ford fan with the object reference treasure replica that Indy managed to get for at museum until Beloq got surrounded and forced too surrender it after danger to another by armed group with bow and arrows😂

  • @miguelsilva3867
    @miguelsilva3867 Před 5 měsíci +5

    This was a great episode. I really felt that Pete was collateral damage. It felt like it was a Pete episode as well. Pete was collateral damage from his parents, Lionel's battle to figure out what is going on with Clark, and Pete not wanting to accidentally betray Clark. Sam's acting was on full display in this episode. Annette and John's acting was on point as usual and Allison's acting was great as well. I liked the special effects with the water against Emily. I had tears in my eyes when Pete said he couldn't forgive himself if he betrayed Clark's secret and how hard it was keeping that secret. Sam's goodbye scene was my favorite scene. This is a strong 1 1/2 roses episode. (I think Emily died because she "disappeared" according to Lionel.)

  • @JoeSelf1982
    @JoeSelf1982 Před 5 měsíci +13

    I’m stoked for Season 4 next year.
    It’s got some crazy good stuff in it along with just 🦇 💩 insane stuff as well!

  • @samuellal1998
    @samuellal1998 Před 5 měsíci +6

    18:47 Ryan 😂😂

  • @CrimsonButterfly91
    @CrimsonButterfly91 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Both becoming nerds better late then never guys ❤ that scene between Pete and Clark at the end so good he deserved so much more he will come back in a later season episode at least that water tower scene was so good for the time🌹

  • @ashleyryan1
    @ashleyryan1 Před 2 měsíci

    The emotions Pete showed with Clark at the end made me cry 🥺😢 that was hard to see on both ends, Pete knowing he had to leave and Clark feeling the loss because of his secret. Definitely see why he changed his mind with Lana.

  • @jlegare333
    @jlegare333 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love how Michael just has NO CLUE what's happening on the show 😂😂
    He always mentions/assumes things that don't happen hahahaah

  • @calebashton1
    @calebashton1 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Even if it was just to explain away the new actress, Emily suddenly aging to an adult works well with the later plotlines involving cloning. We see early on that they can clone people and age the clones all the way to adulthood in a matter of months, so when it happens later, it makes sense.

  • @LivstevMotherEarth
    @LivstevMotherEarth Před 5 měsíci +8

    Forsaken is one of those episodes that could be easily forgettable if it wasn't for those pivotal scenes with Pete leaving and Lex having Lionel arrested, which is why it's a good penultimate episode and not a sub-par one. Pete's last scene with Clark was so sad, you could tell it was hard for him but if he stayed he was terrified of accidentally slipping up. And the way he got beaten for knowing Clark's secret told him how dangerous it was. It also told Clark how dangerous it was for anyone to keep his secret, which is why he decided to not tell Lana after all. He didn't want Lana to have that burden and definitely didn't want to put her in that same kind of danger. He also took Lex's advice and decides to let her go to Paris. It was sad for Clark having two people he cares about leaving him. I get why Tom had issues with Emily Dinsmore's powers of going through walls, but I'm with Micheal, I think sometimes you gotta continue with suspension of disbelief. Especially with shows like Smallville. Not everything is going to make sense. I did like Tom's problem with the directing, as much as he respected Terrance O'Hara, it shows his knowledge of directing and how good of a director he is. I look forward to when we get to the episodes of which Tom directed.

    • @joankeys1087
      @joankeys1087 Před 5 měsíci +2

      It is based on a comic book, it is not supposed to make any sense, just fun fantasy stuff.

    • @LivstevMotherEarth
      @LivstevMotherEarth Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@joankeys1087 Yes, but some sense of realism needs to be translated into turning a comic book into a live action TV show or movie.

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast Před 5 měsíci

      @@joankeys1087 Fantasy with no logic at all is just random crap happening. Gotta have some consistency. Honestly they can make up any powers they want since a conceit of the show is people get powers, it was just weird they made up even more random powers for a preexisting character that nobody was that attached to in the first place.

  • @user-sg3us7uj5c
    @user-sg3us7uj5c Před 5 měsíci +2

    It was sad to see Pete leave. But his exit was powerful. Tom did an outstanding job, as always. The acting of Michael and both John's was outstanding, as well. I love the show and the podcast. Keep it up. Love you guys.

  • @JEBossTon92
    @JEBossTon92 Před 5 měsíci +1

    “It is what it is, folks. It’s Smallville!” - Michael Rosenbaum 🤣🤣💯👍🏼

  • @judygarhaugh1301
    @judygarhaugh1301 Před 5 měsíci +1

    8:15 I love Tom’s insights. He really pays attention to everyone’s performances

  • @bobknudsen1059
    @bobknudsen1059 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Thank you Tom for the 'lighting gem' regarding Lex by the water.

  • @johnhart8856
    @johnhart8856 Před 5 měsíci +1

    23:25 - 24:13
    Clark: *whispers to Lana*
    "Lex Luthor is circumcised... don't ask how I know that."

  • @sammywohl5194
    @sammywohl5194 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Damn 2.5 rose swing from Rosey! Didn’t think that’d be possible!

  • @stephanerobert3946
    @stephanerobert3946 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The water tower would have to superspeed down to hit her as they were superspeeding. ;)

  • @FatimaTomsEnough
    @FatimaTomsEnough Před 5 měsíci +36

    Thanks for the FUN TALK VILLE! I hope Tom is feeling better! Tom, thanks A LOT for loving the scene with Jonathan & Clark in the loft! Happy to hear you guys enjoyed "Forsaken" enough! Clark is the one who is forsaken in this "penultimate" episode. Jet Sweet! Will definitely check out "Blame It On Rio" soon!

    • @asyouwish3636
      @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci +2

      lol be prepared, it's a VERY 80s film that probably won't age well lol I haven't seen it as a grown-up so idk but will say the cast is stellar so no matter what, the performances are great. if you're a fan of the 80s (I am) then you should be good but let me know what you think!
      p.s. your videos always pop up on my recommended lol so cute!

    • @samanthasharman-vr7wo
      @samanthasharman-vr7wo Před 5 měsíci +2

      I couldn't agree with you more flower this was a fun talk Ville made me laugh and cheered me I'm not well and feel like rubbish, they crack me more when they say people's names x

    • @user-gm6hu4hc5i
      @user-gm6hu4hc5i Před 5 měsíci +1

      Uc vbj
      Yug

    • @FatimaTomsEnough
      @FatimaTomsEnough Před 5 měsíci

      @@asyouwish3636 I do like the movies from the 80s, and I'm a fan of the actors, so I'm sure I will enjoy it especially since Tom said that it's really funny!
      I hope you enjoy them!

    • @FatimaTomsEnough
      @FatimaTomsEnough Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@samanthasharman-vr7wo I hope you feel better soon!

  • @ShellsKnohl
    @ShellsKnohl Před 5 měsíci +7

    In the Superman comics, Pete is Clark's "Chloe" (Chloe doesn't exist in the original comics). Pete learns Clark's identity in high school and helps him, secretly, through and after finishing school. He even helps create the Justice League, eventually. I would have loved to see Pete do that on the show - help Clark make saves, etc. As much as I loved Chloe, her character was basically a mashup of comic book Pete (sidekick) and comic book Lana (high school reporter who suspects Clark is super powered). I felt sad when Sam Jones left, knowing he never got to play the sidekick role to its fullest.

    • @asyouwish3636
      @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci +3

      RIGHT! we got an underutilized Pete, and WAY TOO MUCH Chloe. like in later seasons, there's a few random eps where her screen time is more than Clark's! 🤯 plus nearly all of her character development is a plot point for Clark or byproduct of another character's growth...sigh. . .they needed to dial her down and pass it towards Pete. or at least found a balance. idk 🤷‍♀️

    • @Melissa.Garrett
      @Melissa.Garrett Před 5 měsíci +3

      THIS. I get shouted down so often when I put forward this angle, but the inclusion of Chloe permanently altered Pete, Lana, and Jimmy going forward. Parts of each of them was borrowed to make up Chloe.

    • @asyouwish3636
      @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @Melissa.Garrett wow you're right! and it was totally not worth it cuz she was horrible for majority of the series. nothing personal against the actress but if Erica had played her she DEF could have turned into Lois or even would have made sense as a side kick. but Chloe was just redundant most of the time. smh

    • @jeffh06
      @jeffh06 Před 5 měsíci +1

      As much I liked Allison as Chloe before (which never exist in comics) but with the news of her arrest feels altered when watching her character and facial express just odd and only what bothers me of Chloe’s later on after knowing the truth and finally supports on Clark’s side but yet with having too keep things from him of lack of principles that never had showed before and also with gaslights unfairing who can be annoying at times from in episodes

    • @ShellsKnohl
      @ShellsKnohl Před 5 měsíci +1

      I didn't mean to make it sound like I wanted Chloe off the show. I liked her character, and as a writer, I get why they created her. A smart, spunky, cute female character is more versatile. She can be used (as she was) as the third point in a love triangle, as a damsel in distress, as a woman scorned, a woman struggling with being in the perpetual friend zone, etc, etc. I'm not begrudging them Chloe. I only meant to point out that her presence took depth away from both Pete and Lana, and it felt like Sam Jones got the raw end of that deal. There was a lot of potential for him as a character that he didn't get to play.

  • @dominique9187
    @dominique9187 Před 5 měsíci +6

    This episode is a pivotal one and important with the departure of Pete and Sam from Smallville !❤❤ the return of Emily and overall the arrestation of Lionel !😑❤❤ Great and hilarious TalkVille, thank you so much Michael, Tom and Ryan !! 💙❤💖

  • @wolfmanjack9959
    @wolfmanjack9959 Před 5 měsíci +1

    19:48 “it couldn’t have been easy to light yahyou.” I was cracking up for some reason 😂

  • @santiagomillan2489
    @santiagomillan2489 Před 5 měsíci +7

    TGI Wednesday! Can’t belive we are almost in season finale and that we are saying goodbye to our friend Pete Ross. Love you guys thank you for another amazing episode

  • @kingcocacola1
    @kingcocacola1 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Ryan deserves a spot on the Logo :)!

  • @local2004prez
    @local2004prez Před 5 měsíci +3

    Tom says Clark can’t pass through wall but he actually can…on an episode of Lois and Clark season 3 episode 6 Clark vibrates his molecules fast enough to phase through a glass cage similar to the one used in this episode…

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast Před 5 měsíci

      Remember kids, superpowers are anything you want them to be!

  • @jsbrads1
    @jsbrads1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    She was able to phase thru water, but she was only able to hold it together for a few feet before being knocked out by the exertion.

  • @bradparnell614
    @bradparnell614 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I've got some help for Ryan. Lana's parents weren't divorced, they were killed in the pilot. Of course if Mr. Lang had found out that Lana was not his daughter who knows? As far as Clark and Pete always playing basketball, Kansas is one of those states like Kentucky, Indiana, and North Carolina where basketball is fully ingrained in the kids growing up. In all these states you'll find fierce loyalty to both men's and women's college basketball teams as well as hoops in rural, suburban, and urban neighborhoods. Michael should be aware of this having grown up in Indiana and having gone to Western Kentucky University.

  • @stellaharris4826
    @stellaharris4826 Před 5 měsíci +2

    A good episode, changing up the relationship dynamics among all the characters. Sad goodbye to Sam Jones as Pete, who always brought heart into all the weird.

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse Před 5 měsíci +6

    I felt bad for Sam throughout Smallville. Considering that Whitney looked like comic book Pete (and even had a relationship with Lana) you would think the creators would have combined Pete and Whitney. Of course, Sam got more seasons but without much to do. Sam himself has stories for sure. Get it?

  • @eyezonly8593
    @eyezonly8593 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I wish Sam would have stayed.Petes departure was a real shock

  • @HansCholo619
    @HansCholo619 Před 5 měsíci +1

    lmao!
    Clark whispers to lana
    'I just super farted"

  • @evanwilliams6923
    @evanwilliams6923 Před 5 měsíci +11

    It's tough losing Sam . But, it opens up room for Erica's Lois Lane to be Clark's friend for the next few seasons before transitioning into a couple. Erica injects some much needed humor into the show and creates a fun dynamic even if the writing in season 4 isn't as strong as season 3.

  • @tomgonz1099
    @tomgonz1099 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Loder was not a detective! He was an FBI agent! Damn, who's that!😂

  • @rotem-shmueli
    @rotem-shmueli Před 5 měsíci +3

    For a rich guy it's weird how Lionel does everything by himself. needs to talk to Chloe? he's like "I won't call, I won't send someone else to talk with her, no no... I will go to the school myself!" and he does it so many times

    • @karlherman3591
      @karlherman3591 Před 5 měsíci +2

      He can’t trust anybody else with the not-so-legal stuff.

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast Před 5 měsíci

      I think he likes to get personally involved with things and people he finds interesting (or important/dangerous to himself). He and Chloe have quite a history now. I think he must admire her resourcefulness, willingness to defy him, and occasional ruthlessness a bit, in a condescending sort of "you are somewhat more than a minor nuisance to me" way.

  • @tompollockjr144
    @tompollockjr144 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Loved Clark blasting down the water tower, thought it was a creative effect. But when you stop to think about it, if two people are moving at hundreds, if not thousands of miles an hour - how did the tower fall fast enough to get Emily? Gravity was working at super speed too apparently...

  • @KataMiyo
    @KataMiyo Před 5 měsíci +5

    I think Pete had to go (unfortunately for Sam and the fans!) but Clark losing his buddy sets up the isolation and loneliness that Clark feels in future episodes. The Clark/Lex dynamic wouldn’t be as effective in showing the loss of friendship if Clark had his buddy Pete to soften the blow.

    • @Melissa.Garrett
      @Melissa.Garrett Před 5 měsíci +2

      That’s an interesting point, I hadn’t thought of it in those terms before. While I’m sure there were probably practical/monetary reasons for them writing Pete out as well, it certainly did add to the idea of Clark’s isolation and his fear of everyone eventually leaving him. Very well spotted!

  • @asyouwish3636
    @asyouwish3636 Před 5 měsíci +6

    🌹🌹nice podcast today! loving all of Tom's interjections lol ❤️ the basketball-blocking, his notes about building suspension... and of course the Lionel/Lex scene was so great, really strong performances.
    Tom's directing notes are always great and you can see it in the eps that he directs, they are really strong and jam packed w events and info and action(LOVE S7 Apocalypse among others). . . he's right that it could have been portrayed better about Emily's new phasing power - like was it new? there needed to be just a little more exposition or like Tom says just a diff/tighter way of shooting it.
    sidenote: awesome throwback reference to Blame it on Rio! 😃 such an 80s flick 🤣

  • @sarabkaur9654
    @sarabkaur9654 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Loved watching tom welling on screen. I can just watch him talking for hours. 😊

  • @Atestinal
    @Atestinal Před 5 měsíci +2

    Whenever a character gets kidnapped and stuck in a room, like Lana in this episode, I always think, where do they poop?

  • @ThatBetchEllie
    @ThatBetchEllie Před 4 měsíci

    Chloes new confidence is preparing her for s4 when she learns clarks secret and becomes the best sidekick ever!! She knows for awhile before clark tells her ans helps him whej he gets amnesia to not reveal his secret shes just the best!

  • @HappyGuy343
    @HappyGuy343 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Goodbye Sam Jones III 😞 I like this one. Emily is creepy, but in an entertaining way. Some great stuff with Lex and his dad. Lionel’s finally being brought to justice. I really felt for Pete man. He definitely had to carry a big burden keeping Clark’s secret. And it ultimately lead to him leaving and Clark wanting to hold back from telling Lana his secret. It’s definitely not easy being Clark and knowing his secret. I’m giving this one a rose 🌹. The season 3 finale is one of the best finale’s of the series IMO, can’t wait for next week!
    Talkville Rose and Bomb tracker for Season 3:
    Tom:
    Exile: 2🌹
    Phoenix: 1.5🌹
    Slumber: 1🌹
    Perry: 2🌹
    Relic: 2🌹
    Magnetic: Heder
    Shattered: 2🌹
    Asylum: 2.5🌹
    Whisper: Heder
    Delete: Heder
    Hereafter: 1🌹
    Velocity: Heder
    Obsession: 1.5🌹
    Resurrection: Heder
    Crisis: 1🌹
    Legacy: 2.5🌹
    Truth: Heder
    Memoria: 2.5🌹
    Talisman: 1.5🌹
    Forsaken: 1🌹
    Michael:
    Exile: 1.5🌹
    Phoenix: 1.5🌹
    Extinction: 1💣
    Slumber: 0.5🌹
    Perry: 2.5🌹
    Relic: 1🌹
    Magnetic: 0.5💣
    Shattered: 2🌹
    Asylum: 1.5🌹
    Whisper: 0.5🌹
    Delete: 1.5💣
    Hereafter: 0.5🌹
    Velocity: Heder
    Obsession: 1🌹
    Resurrection: 1.5💣
    Crisis: 0.5🌹
    Legacy: 2🌹
    Truth: 0.5🌹
    Memoria: 2.5🌹
    Talisman: 1🌹
    Forsaken: 1.5🌹
    Ryan:
    Exile: 2🌹
    Phoenix: 1.5🌹
    Extinction: Heder
    Slumber: Heder
    Perry: 2🌹
    Shattered: 2🌹
    Asylum: 1.5🌹
    Whisper: 0.5🌹
    Delete: 1💣
    Hereafter: 0.5🌹
    Velocity: Heder
    Obsession: 1.5🌹
    Resurrection: 1💣
    Crisis: 0.5🌹
    Legacy: 1.5🌹
    Truth: Heder
    Memoria: 2🌹
    Talisman: 1.5🌹
    Forsaken: 1🌹
    Bryce:
    Relic: Heder
    Magnetic: 0.5🌹
    Me:
    Exile: 2.5🌹
    Phoenix: 2🌹
    Extinction: 1🌹
    Slumber: 1🌹
    Perry: 2🌹
    Relic: 1.5🌹
    Magnetic: 0.5💣
    Shattered: 3🌹
    Asylum: 2.5🌹
    Whisper: 1🌹
    Delete: Heder
    Hereafter: 1🌹
    Velocity: Heder
    Obsession: 2🌹
    Resurrection: 0.5🌹
    Crisis: 1.5🌹
    Legacy: 2🌹
    Truth: 1🌹
    Memoria: 3🌹
    Talisman: 1.5🌹
    Forsaken: 1🌹

  • @johnhart8856
    @johnhart8856 Před 5 měsíci +1

    36:13
    They explain later in season 4 during Alicia's return that they kept her from using her teleportation powers to escape belle reeve by giving her a specially designed bracelet that releases trace amounts of lead into her blood stream. Assuming that emily shares the same weakness phasing through lead, I would imagine they would have implemented similar technology for her

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast Před 5 měsíci

      They also mention Emily was heavily sedated. They seem to have missed the point it wasn't actually Emily who escaped, it was Lionel destroying evidence of crazy mad scientist crap he funds.

  • @koulor315
    @koulor315 Před 5 měsíci +2

    We almost there!! Season 4 first introduction for Lois lane let’s go!! Erica durance guest star !!

  • @brookhiland721
    @brookhiland721 Před 5 měsíci

    You guys are the best, thank you for doing this!!

  • @jpny.7961
    @jpny.7961 Před 5 měsíci +1

    😂🤣😂😂as a fan of pun jokes, testing the waters had me lmao

  • @dawnsnow7576
    @dawnsnow7576 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Also 1st episode in season 4 Tom and Micheal are both so muscular! WOW! Just saying

  • @actiondk2279
    @actiondk2279 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Great season and always love the Wednesday morning streams!

  • @leannepritchett6323
    @leannepritchett6323 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Thanks for the joy you bring and all you do. Feel better soon Tom❤. TGFTVW 🙏.

  • @kerenolivero7097
    @kerenolivero7097 Před 5 měsíci

    You guys are awesome, looking forward to next week's episode! :)

  • @rubenlopez2764
    @rubenlopez2764 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Watching this while doing cardio. Multitasking Lol 😅

  • @jillquin5224
    @jillquin5224 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Clark can walk through walls, just in a different way.

  • @aplusgarcia8206
    @aplusgarcia8206 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Clark whispers: "I'm so sorry."

  • @Barleyluv
    @Barleyluv Před 5 měsíci +1

    My favorite part of this episode was the ending scene where Lionel is arrested. Very intense scene between Lex and Lionel.
    Also, farewell Pete.
    I don’t think I became fond of his character until this podcast.
    So, thanks Talkville!

  • @HOUSEOFHIXON
    @HOUSEOFHIXON Před 5 měsíci +1

    Another great podcast- good episode with great performances 🌹🌹

  • @lindamawdsley6130
    @lindamawdsley6130 Před 5 měsíci

    Great week with some insightful and interesting discussions this was a very entertaining episode. Thanks for all that you do🤩

  • @FantasyRaider
    @FantasyRaider Před 5 měsíci +4

    How does no one talk about how Pete was suppose to be married to Lana Lang in the comics? Surely there would of been a lot of material there to atleast bring him back for building that storyline…wonder why the writers didn’t think this would be interesting. I hoped that when they brought Pete back in season 7 that they atleast might hint at something between him and Lana..

  • @mrmoves97
    @mrmoves97 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Awesone video ! Love you guys from Brazil !!!❤❤

  • @bluesuperman1
    @bluesuperman1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This pod calms me I love it

  • @briansnarr3057
    @briansnarr3057 Před 5 měsíci

    Another fantastic episode, you guys are amazing and I love re-watching Smallville and seeing your takes on everything.

  • @sofiadrosos1308
    @sofiadrosos1308 Před 5 měsíci

    Great episode. I always enjoy the analysis on the episode. The best thing about Wednesdays. ❤

  • @MattHunX
    @MattHunX Před 5 měsíci

    17:02 LOLOL!! I just imagined Clark doing that in Looney Tunes fashion, just busting through and leaving a perfectly Clark-shaped hole, complete with cartoon sound effects.

  • @redlox2
    @redlox2 Před 5 měsíci +2

    One of my favorite parts was Clark vs Emily at the end where they are using super Speed. I thought it was clever for Clark to use heat vision (while they were both in “Clark time”) to shoot past her to hit the water towers. This allowed water to hit Emily who doenst have super durability like Clark does.! Nice way to use other established powers!

    • @tornadochaser2457
      @tornadochaser2457 Před 5 měsíci

      It's generally really cool, but Emily should be long gone by the time the water tower even hits the ground considering its regular movement. It would've been better if Clark jumped to the water tower to pull it down from the front, while shooting heat vision as he jumped.

    • @redlox2
      @redlox2 Před 5 měsíci

      @@tornadochaser2457 like that also has a problem of Clark having his running speed to actually pass Emily to do this. (which based on the frames was shown he was pretty much the same speed as Emily). either way these are just nitpicks on a relatively cool ending.

    • @tornadochaser2457
      @tornadochaser2457 Před 5 měsíci

      @@redlox2 Clark didn't run passed Emily. I also consider my comment a legitimate flaw, not a nitpick.

  • @Greybush
    @Greybush Před 5 měsíci +2

    Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on season 4 episode 5, 6 and 7. Run, Transference and Jinx. There is an amazing Father, Son moment between Clark and Jonathan in Jinx.

  • @littlew0men
    @littlew0men Před 5 měsíci +1

    loved this season and can't wait for season 4!! ❤

  • @lovelywaz
    @lovelywaz Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks for S03E21! 🥂🥂🍻🍻

  • @aerialsdaddy
    @aerialsdaddy Před 5 měsíci

    Love the show. Keep it going dudes.

  • @anotheruser1052
    @anotheruser1052 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Bring Sam please!!!