The problem with Aqua (and how 0.2 fixed it)

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  • čas přidán 16. 01. 2018
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  • @Azdrerios
    @Azdrerios Před 6 lety +3077

    Ansem's goal is
    D A R K N E S S
    And he struggles with
    D A R K N E S S
    The whole character centers around
    D A R K N E S S

    • @aleanddragonITA
      @aleanddragonITA Před 6 lety +201

      Azdrerios
      His Struggles Is
      Try To Not Lose Riku's Body

    • @andreonsouza4314
      @andreonsouza4314 Před 6 lety +185

      Ansem's goal is
      D A R K N E S S
      And he struggles with
      D A R K N E S S WITHIN FREAKING D A R K N E S S

    • @Chris-jk6wd
      @Chris-jk6wd Před 6 lety +57

      Ansem: D A R K N E S S! IMPRISONING ME
      ALL THAT I SEE
      ABSOLUTE HORROR

    • @iii2524
      @iii2524 Před 6 lety +5

      GreggRulezOk Underrated reply

    • @revolvingworld2676
      @revolvingworld2676 Před 6 lety +26

      Which is why Xemnas and Xehanort shit all over Ansem

  • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668

    The difference between Aqua and Sora is that one is Xehanort and one is Sora.

  • @P_Summa
    @P_Summa Před 6 lety +1989

    Aqua's never been in Atlantis and her name means water. No wonder her story isn't deep enough.

    • @JemuzuDatsWho
      @JemuzuDatsWho Před 6 lety +120

      Right? Everyone knows you can't have meaningful character development without a smashing musical number!

    • @murderousroomba8569
      @murderousroomba8569 Před 6 lety +73

      Her character development is as *shallow* as a puddle

    • @tiffanyhayes4014
      @tiffanyhayes4014 Před 6 lety +16

      I don't know why. But this comment. Had me laghing hard its not that funny but thumbs up for that

    • @NathanTheHedgehog
      @NathanTheHedgehog Před 6 lety +9

      Phil Summa plus, Aqua is also a colour of a light blue

    • @the10creative-blinis46
      @the10creative-blinis46 Před 6 lety +14

      THANK GOD we didn't have to go to Atlantis in bbs

  • @aidankeogh9994
    @aidankeogh9994 Před 6 lety +1655

    *actually a thing that happens in the cinderella world*
    *Aqua walks up to Tremaine Manor*
    "As I thought, there is darkness here"
    *immediately summons her keyblade and approaches the door, presumably to massacre the entire family*

    • @PolarPhantom
      @PolarPhantom Před 6 lety +215

      I love that moment.

    • @revolvingworld2676
      @revolvingworld2676 Před 6 lety +146

      Aidan Keogh
      To be fair, they are bitches

    • @MagcargoMan
      @MagcargoMan Před 6 lety +198

      Not gonna lie, but the fact that she was gonna beat the hell out of Lady Tremaine and her daughters was awesome.

    • @shepherdstar14
      @shepherdstar14 Před 5 lety +18

      Aidan Keogh lol yeah I remember! Holy shit this is really rated E10?

    • @TheBonkleFox
      @TheBonkleFox Před 5 lety +64

      @Kaidoku123 honestly eraqus is at fault for just about everything that went wrong in kingdom hearts after the keyblade war

  • @AceofDiamonds236
    @AceofDiamonds236 Před 6 lety +2362

    This is actually a really good analysis while also retaining the classic Just a Pancake humor. I love it.

    • @poisax
      @poisax Před 5 lety +30

      I second this 8 months later

    • @emeros8631
      @emeros8631 Před 5 lety +23

      And i concur 10 months later

    • @NowhereGames518
      @NowhereGames518 Před 5 lety +16

      I am in harmony with your opinion. Greetings from 1 year in the future. Where we are now subservient to our pancake overlords.

    • @PilotStudent24
      @PilotStudent24 Před 5 lety +6

      There's room for me here?

    • @emeros8631
      @emeros8631 Před 5 lety +5

      @@PilotStudent24 Feel free to join

  • @CapnCinnamonBunVideogamemaster

    “Aqua translates to subscribe to Just a Pancake in German”
    Ok ...
    I believe that is factually correct.

  • @michdie1046
    @michdie1046 Před 5 lety +335

    Terra struggles with not being an idiot, like all of us.

  • @Jyukenmaster95
    @Jyukenmaster95 Před 6 lety +863

    RIP the German fanbase who sat through a 4m38s session of being told to subscribe to Just a Pancake.

  • @kimzee59
    @kimzee59 Před 6 lety +3020

    Wait, that isn't how you talk to friends?

    • @BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE
      @BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE Před 6 lety +110

      What friends? :p

    • @unknownwanabe3437
      @unknownwanabe3437 Před 6 lety +80

      What are those, future traitors who will forget you and steal all the credits of your own and only achievements? :y

    • @luisphelipecarvalho5990
      @luisphelipecarvalho5990 Před 6 lety +72

      What are friends? A miserable pile of secrets!

    • @Dundereshock
      @Dundereshock Před 6 lety +33

      I made us some good luck charms, because we are super duper best friends

    • @Ashlovesyou669
      @Ashlovesyou669 Před 6 lety +33

      kimzee59 I don't call by friends a beautiful star. I point at a Dumpster and say "i found your new home tom!"

  • @Jotari
    @Jotari Před 6 lety +211

    Aqua's arc would have been much better if they actually described her relationship with Ven and Terra as a family. A) They basically are as they've been raised together. B) She treats them more like younger brothers than friends with the way she tries to mother them. Replace friendship with family in half the lines and suddenly both her desire to protect them and he perchance to act quite passive aggressive whenever she's around them would seem a lot more natural.

    • @cattya4406
      @cattya4406 Před 5 lety +27

      i think thats what they are. its obviously more of a family relationship than a friendship one. but isnt that the point? that their friendship is supposed to be so close that they are like family?

    • @jeom3808
      @jeom3808 Před 3 lety +20

      Agreed, I think this is how I overlooked the "unnatural friendship talk", in my mind they are more so family then anything. (their interactions make a lot more sense when seen this way, it makes their fights/drama less off-putting.)

    • @urtoryu_dy_althraidn
      @urtoryu_dy_althraidn Před 3 lety +13

      I always viwed it as a family relationship instead of just friendship, and it does make a lot more sense.

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari Před 3 lety +18

      @@cattya4406 Yeah it is how they are. My point is that the game doesn't actually acknowledge that and calls them friends the whole time. Which makes Aqua look a little loopy about friendship.

    • @attorney_rosa
      @attorney_rosa Před 2 lety +15

      Agree. The first time I played bbs, the friendship theme isn't really match for wayfinder trio dynamic and it bugged me. From bodybuild you can tell that terra and aqua is older and ven is 1 on sora's age. Ven is definitely that innocent boy wanted to see the outside world, aqua is the most motherly figure in the game, and terra is passable to become older brother or even a dad. Then I read the novelization and some of japanese lines. They are more connotations that they indeed a family. Take a look at radiant garden scene where ven gives agua and terra the disney pass. Instead of bringing 2 grown ups, ven called them 'parents' in japanese.
      My guessing is that they wanted to make wayfinder trio a friend group rather than family for english release. Which I prefer that they still keep up the family concept, like in japanese. Family makes much more sense, and the story much more amusing and heartbreaking. It is like watching family being shattered by evil guy
      Thus makes aqua story much more heartbreaking. Is like a mother trying to bring the family back together

  • @lukey3474
    @lukey3474 Před 6 lety +772

    "When KH3 releases next year"
    wait

    • @yesimnotcreative6312
      @yesimnotcreative6312 Před 6 lety +13

      SpeedLucas my response exactly

    • @djheroxt
      @djheroxt Před 6 lety +14

      You thought I was 2018 but was me 2017 ha ha haaaa

    • @GamerRukario
      @GamerRukario Před 6 lety +41

      Just a Pancake is the number one channel for predictions

    • @Jyukenmaster95
      @Jyukenmaster95 Před 6 lety +50

      "When KH3 releases next year"
      and then he accidentally fell, and delayed Kingdom Hearts to 2020.

    • @monken364
      @monken364 Před 6 lety

      SpeedLucas I said that toi

  • @cannedtunaproductions
    @cannedtunaproductions Před 6 lety +495

    for a robotic voice and a couple of ms paint graphics
    *that was a pretty good review*

  • @raidenshibou2054
    @raidenshibou2054 Před 6 lety +2643

    Wow, quality content.
    I'm unsuscribing

  • @WilyGryphon
    @WilyGryphon Před 4 lety +190

    Duh. This is how you really talk to friends:
    Have some ice cream. We are best friends.
    You are right.
    Hahahahaha
    Have some ice cream. We are best friends.
    You are right.
    Hahahahaha
    Have some ice cream. We are best friends.
    You are right.
    Hahahahaha

  • @siriustoast
    @siriustoast Před 6 lety +234

    She's less of a friend and more of a mom

    • @aqua3234
      @aqua3234 Před 4 lety +39

      Ironic that most fandom people treat Aqua like a mother, Ventus as a child, and Terra like a father.

    • @thecasualwatcher4740
      @thecasualwatcher4740 Před 4 lety +21

      @@aqua3234 Terra for me is like a big bro

    • @markuax5046
      @markuax5046 Před 4 lety +8

      Well, she is one of the only adults in the Kingdom Hearts series so

    • @Jetblast01
      @Jetblast01 Před 3 lety +6

      @@thecasualwatcher4740 Given how much Terra screws up, this seems more accurate.

    • @azzzanadra
      @azzzanadra Před 3 lety +1

      @@Jetblast01 screw up by helping cinderella?

  • @stickginge
    @stickginge Před 5 lety +56

    Summed up start of the game
    Terra: “damn it, I tried so hard to be strong, there must be a way for me to be able to become a keyblade master”
    Ventus: “my friend is suffering and I still don’t know my past. I need to help him and also stop this asshole in a black helmet”
    Aqua: “yay I became a keyblade master. Wait where dafuq did those two idiots go. Guess I will go find them, I mean nothing bad is really gonna happen is it”.

    • @scarletrose8766
      @scarletrose8766 Před 3 lety +5

      Technically aqua was ordered to bring Ven back and keep an eye on Terra so technically only aqua was given a mission..... Terra ignored Master Eraqus and Ven got baited to go after Terra if Ven had stayed home aqua would have one job ....... Instead of two and when aqua gave Terra a warning he went ahead and be an idiot anyways oh yeah while ven sleeps soundly aqua had to suffer a decade in darkness (also mickey you had one job!!!!) That aside eraqus would not have to send aqua out if Terra and Ven dint disobey orders

  • @keeganstormblade5456
    @keeganstormblade5456 Před 6 lety +318

    The way you showed the Wayfinder Trio's friendship is... 100% accurate.

    • @Zelink108
      @Zelink108 Před 5 lety +1

      Are you sure you aren’t circlejerking?

    • @spark9189
      @spark9189 Před 4 lety +8

      @@Zelink108 no, those were almost the actual lines in the cutscene. and i _like_ bbs

    • @Mishy_Franky
      @Mishy_Franky Před 3 lety +4

      @@Zelink108 BBS is my favorite kh game and uhh the friendship aspect was literal shit

  • @billfrypher8335
    @billfrypher8335 Před 6 lety +677

    This is a surprisingly really well done character study! Good on you Pancake! I wouldn't mind seeing more videos like this in the future!

    • @Boltscrap
      @Boltscrap Před 6 lety +19

      Some seriousness also makes the jokes funnier.

    • @Zinkolo
      @Zinkolo Před 6 lety +3

      BillFrypher I have to disagree though

    • @Ardkun00
      @Ardkun00 Před 6 lety

      I was expecting some trolling when I came to watch this video. Surprisingly enough it didn't have it.

    • @Zelink108
      @Zelink108 Před 5 lety

      Ratón Chamán What about that “Woman who needs no man” part?

  • @lillialuna8651
    @lillialuna8651 Před 6 lety +462

    As much as I love Aqua... yeah, this is pretty true.
    Although Aqua does come off as more like a mother towards Ven, while Terra seems like a big brother to him. They have a very different relationship than any of the other trios. It's interesting to think about, but some of those scenes, like the beginning one, are kinda just... poorly written.
    And personally, I believe the thing Aqua struggles with the most is doubt. Each of the BBS trio has a specific flaw: Terra is trusting too easily, Aqua is doubting too easily, and Ven is being gullible (I actually think he's the one who acts like an idiot out of the three, which makes sense).
    Meh, just my opinions.

    • @demiliomason1565
      @demiliomason1565 Před 6 lety +37

      LilliaLuna even if she acts like a mom think about it. Is it really necesarry? In all honesty their whole connection is really generic and uninspiring. I say generic because you see this triangle in a lot of shitty slice of life anime.

    • @renokyrieliumgodofvoid8330
      @renokyrieliumgodofvoid8330 Před 6 lety +4

      LilliaLuna Yeah I cant believe Just a pancake made a serious video for once
      Because Aqua is like Bland after a while,Terra well he is not wrong for believing Xehanort that Eraqus is wrong but he also not right,and of course
      Now i started to dislike Ventus because he is a little bi....i mean idiot poop face Xion > Ventus

    • @ariksanderstuckwisch1604
      @ariksanderstuckwisch1604 Před 6 lety +2

      Who?

    • @Zinkolo
      @Zinkolo Před 6 lety +30

      LilliaLuna I still think it was great trio. I really liked their relationship and the emotional bond they portrayed. I personally don't think the the beginning scenes are poorly written. Just weird but they serve as a good way to show the close bond. I have to disagree heavily with just a pancake here. The beginning scene felt very relatable to me and I think her struggle was great. Her struggle to save her friends is one of my favorite struggles in the entire series because of how meaningful it felt to me personally

    • @elbert0p1kachu
      @elbert0p1kachu Před 5 lety +26

      I mean I'd struggle to if my best friends were continuing to be a pair of total idiots instead of doing what they're told to do:
      - stop using the darkness
      - get back to homeworld

  • @goodguytongue7159
    @goodguytongue7159 Před 6 lety +112

    THAT’S what’s inside Sora’s shoes.

  • @johnseymore4774
    @johnseymore4774 Před 6 lety +453

    Huh. I came in expecting jokes, but got an actual analysis. What a pleasant surprise; I hope you do more (and that I used that semicolon right.)

    • @Zelink108
      @Zelink108 Před 5 lety +1

      I wouldn’t say the analysis was that good.

    • @camaileon1405
      @camaileon1405 Před 4 lety

      @@Zelink108 lmao this analysis was actually answering my quetion, so i say its pretty fantastic

  • @eyezcosplay
    @eyezcosplay Před 6 lety +89

    Omg the hand on my chest thing had me in tears. I love that about her but didn’t even realize she did that sooo much

    • @Kuulpb
      @Kuulpb Před 4 lety +9

      eyezcosplay i always thought it was her trying to calm herself,

  • @MrHaveGoing
    @MrHaveGoing  Před 6 lety +1618

    Tried something new to spice things up on my channel. What do you guys think?
    And yeah I know I messed up at 1:49 There was supposed to be a buff guy next to me who would play my friend but I guess there was a rendering error and he got removed somehow.

    • @lukelloyd5007
      @lukelloyd5007 Před 6 lety +104

      Just a Pancake this was really good nice mix of comedy and analysis.

    • @DvdLr7943
      @DvdLr7943 Před 6 lety +30

      Just a Pancake i loved the video

    • @DuskAndCover
      @DuskAndCover Před 6 lety +61

      Just a Pancake It's good. It's not the usual shit-post but shit-posting *with material* ! Well done.

    • @BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE
      @BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE Před 6 lety +21

      Something different is good! Can't always be memes. But as a request for future videos, i'd love to see TWEWY stuff. Since TWEWY Final Remix (totally not from KH) was announced for the Switch I think it'd be good to do.

    • @jaimelopez-jv6ec
      @jaimelopez-jv6ec Před 6 lety +12

      Just a Pancake haha you can’t see me! I forgot about that

  • @andreware2039
    @andreware2039 Před 6 lety +217

    But....friendship :'(

  • @siriustoast
    @siriustoast Před 6 lety +35

    That last line about kh3 being released next year was perfect.

  • @ShallBePurified
    @ShallBePurified Před 5 lety +45

    KH3 is out and HAHA NOPE. Who needs character development when you got "Good morning Ven." Totally best buds.

    • @photonalchemist6574
      @photonalchemist6574 Před 5 lety +7

      Kh3 did her character dirty. Not gonna lie.

    • @aqua3234
      @aqua3234 Před 4 lety +2

      I thought it was "Simple and Clean?" Not dark and gritty and messy...

    • @dmas7749
      @dmas7749 Před 3 lety +1

      sadly one of the better moments of KH3 writing

  • @Deinzu
    @Deinzu Před 6 lety +19

    It's only funny when you think that the best depiction of friendship in the whole series is by three people with no heart and two of them are basically the same person

  • @AlsoMeowskivich
    @AlsoMeowskivich Před 6 lety +11

    I was shocked when Aqua actually almost put emotion into her words in 0.2

  • @StonePiercer
    @StonePiercer Před 6 lety +56

    Definitely didn't expect an actual analysis, It was a great video and it went straight to the point. Really would like to see other videos like this in the future.

  • @alistor3777
    @alistor3777 Před 6 lety +134

    Wait......
    THIS IS AN ACTUAL VIDEO AND NOT A JOKE?????
    the world is going to end

  • @sequoyachu98
    @sequoyachu98 Před 6 lety +29

    When i first saw you mention you were making a "serious analysis video on Aqua's character" I thought it was a joke but you actually had good reasoning and made a point. Please make more of these type of videos I love the memes but these are good too!

    • @LionNukara
      @LionNukara Před 6 lety

      Damn I'm here one who likes Aqua as a character?

  • @bf5250
    @bf5250 Před 4 lety +13

    "Let's hope Kingdom Hearts 3 does a similar thing when it gets released next year."
    "Will it really do a similar thing?"
    "NO."

  • @jonnysac77
    @jonnysac77 Před 6 lety +60

    Take a shot every time a KH character puts there hand on there chest and closes there eyes

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 Před 4 lety +8

      Damn I tried lost consciousness before finishing KH1.

    • @aqua3234
      @aqua3234 Před 4 lety +1

      My friend took shots everytime the Heavy says “METAL GIANT”. He still survived after 300 shots.

    • @chimanruler15
      @chimanruler15 Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah, why do they do that? Do the writers think that makes the characters look more emotional?

  • @alexlamazza3200
    @alexlamazza3200 Před 6 lety +5

    And then Aqua fell an accidently became a *Z-nort*

  • @Realshadow77
    @Realshadow77 Před 6 lety +53

    I enjoyed this video a lot. I like your normal pure-comedy ones, but 100% meme videos become repetitive with time, so I'm glad you mixed it up with in-depth analysis.
    I hope you will make more content in this style. Really entertaining.

  • @juju0520
    @juju0520 Před 6 lety +177

    I forgot tell everyone where Aqua is, but did you know....
    my name spelled backwards is dis-

  • @RCDeschene
    @RCDeschene Před 6 lety +5

    I think that was the whole point of her character. She was the only character deemed Master at the start of the game and went about her story as such. That moment in Radiant Garden, as pointed-out by Ven, revealed her flaw that she was more concerned about her mission from Eraqus than Terra's desperate struggle to prove himself or Ven's lonely desire to be with his friends.
    I agree that the portrayal of friendship by the BBS trio at the beginning of the game was as a lot more subtle than the kind portrayed at the start of KHI, but that's also because of the vastly different circumstances between the two instances. The Terra/Ventus/Aqua scenario introduces us to three already established Keyblade students of two young adults and a freshman in what's practically a boarding school world, where as we meet the Sora/Riku/Kairi band as just three naive kids on a island looking for adventure. So, there definitely a distinct range of experience and maturity between the two groups.
    This is why, in my opinion, Aqua's real struggle was, not so much entirely the friendship gig, as much as it her being trusted with the Master title too soon. Eraqus' misjudged Aqua's emotional maturity as a Mark of Mastery when it turned-out she still had a pessimistic habit of doubting others in times of crisis and then herself when stuck in darkness. This is made clear during the Phantom Aqua battle in 0.2 when it admits that "[she's] no Keyblade Master". 0.2 helped Aqua realize that and rebuilt her to where she can now bear that title more confidently.

  • @loganburn9412
    @loganburn9412 Před 6 lety +4

    puts hand on chest
    thinks of all the dank kingdom hearts memes Just a Pancake has created and closes eyes

  • @DarkfoolDave
    @DarkfoolDave Před 4 lety +12

    Honestly Terra, Aqua and Ven have a strange type of friendship. It's not a social relationship, but a martial one. They aren't really friends, but comrades. They definitely care about each other, but it feels more like the relationships I've had with the people I fenced with in college. Or people who go to a dojo and practice a strict martial art. I think the competitive nature of what binds them together puts up these little barriers that prevent them from really letting their guards down around each other. Couple this with the fact that they don't really have anyone else to socialize with, then you get all those awkward moments between them when they try to reach each other on a personal level. Though every attempt is an honest one, they're literally a bunch of socially awkward teenagers trying to figure things out. It's fascinating, I think. Sora, Riku, and Kairi all seem much more socially adjusted with each other. Pettiness and jealousy drive Sora and Riku apart in KH1, but past that I think their relationships are pretty stable.

  • @cadetkatana2293
    @cadetkatana2293 Před 6 lety +16

    Great video. It was serious, yet still held that Pancake-y feel.
    10/10 would fall to DARKNESS again

  • @LCDSJ7
    @LCDSJ7 Před 6 lety +35

    Man, I miss the old times. Talking with my friends about stars, sunsets, and police...
    Also, I didn't expect a so serious and true argument by the same pancake whose name spelled backwords is Just a Pancake, so I don't believe you, sorry.

  • @michaelmcguire7526
    @michaelmcguire7526 Před 6 lety +7

    I don't believe this
    A meme channel just released the most inspired and thought provoking kingdom hearts video I've ever seen and after I thought the series had nothing to offer outside of vague plot direction and a bottomless timeline. I'm very impressed and pleasantly surprised

  • @JSPaul49
    @JSPaul49 Před 6 lety +78

    4:34, I thought this was a serious video.

  • @TechnicSky
    @TechnicSky Před 6 lety +8

    I mean once Ventus wakes up, he’s gonna be Aqua’s true friend and probably be a way better person.
    Aqua: “Ven, you were asleep for the past decade.”
    Ven: “I believe you.”

  • @tbe9790
    @tbe9790 Před 6 lety +25

    "When KH 3gets released next year" I laughed and laughed so hard!

  • @M0bileKeys
    @M0bileKeys Před 6 lety +175

    Wow... I'm used to memes and joke videos on this channel but...
    This was actually an excellent video (actually in the sense that it wasn't acting as a parody, but a well thought out analysis on Aqua's character). Yes, other people have brought up that Aqua's character in BBS is bad and that the parallel of friendship between Sora, Kairi, Riku is far superior to that of Terra, Aqua, and Ven, but Just a Pancake went further beyond and not only found examples in BBS that save Aqua's character but also about how 0.2 makes Aqua so relatable.
    It's a good thing Aqua's name means "Subscribe to Just a Pancake" because a video like this makes me glad I subscribed.
    The memes are good too, but this video is the icing on the p̶a̶n̶cake.

    • @loren5432
      @loren5432 Před 6 lety +6

      M0bileKeys I never knew people cared so much about both trios friendship.
      Then again, I don't really care about the story, because it got convoluted after KH1, and it started to seem that they made up new plots at random to keep the series going. Everything from the very moment in which nobodies were introduced is just..ugh. (Not saying KH was a masterpiece; it wasn't, but it had a far more simple and engaging plot with your typical cliches rather than a convoluted story who tries so hard to get an emotion out of you and be original through whatever shit they come up with). It also doesn't helps that any newcomer to the series has to go start from KH 1 (still fun but you can see it's dated, even with Final Mix version) to AT LEAST have an original idea of what's going on.
      I can't believe I'll say this, but I'd rather have Sora run around Disney World like an idiot instead of running around the edgy, melodramatic FF themes it tries to have. If they truly wanted to make a game that held on his own through good story, then they should have shoved KH aside.

    • @LionNukara
      @LionNukara Před 6 lety

      Aqua is any better as a character than Kairi. I do not understand why you can hate it.
      She's one of my favorite characters.

    • @LionNukara
      @LionNukara Před 6 lety +2

      KH 1 is too childish and alas is deprived of really interesting characters except Riku.
      In fact, it is in KH2 that all the fun begins.
      It is thanks to the second part that everyone loves this franchise.

    • @loren5432
      @loren5432 Před 6 lety +7

      Nukara Rikova That's just you and few other people. Just check on the forums; most people agree that after Chain of Memories, the story gets too convoluted to be interesting.
      People love KH2 because of its amazing gameplay, not the story. KH was childish indeed, but that's because it was targeted at children, not adults.

    • @LionNukara
      @LionNukara Před 6 lety +1

      What ?! You probably have not read much of the forums. For the second part is just praised for the appearance of drama and a more adult story.
      Many have been touched by the Roxas story and I do not know, it's necessary to be completely heartless to the point where Roxas says his last words about the end of the vacation did not cause you any feelings.
      Tell me though about one moment in KH1 which would have reached the drama and the plot turns to 2 parts? Except for the moment where Sora beats himself by the Kiblade.
      And tell me, what's so bad about a complicated plot?
      Or do you like that you are being held for a five-year-old child and popping out the chewed information as Disney does (the benefit is that the new cartoons have become more intelligent and less trivial and predictable) or where the plot moves can be predicted for many years, as it was with the Tobi personality in Naruto.
      Yes, and in fact an unnecessarily complicated plot was in DDD in other games if you just strain your brain, everything will be clear.

  • @Nevict
    @Nevict Před 4 lety +6

    And then, kingdom hearts 3 came around and Aqua was STILL THE SAME. She is pretty though.

  • @dyxanyouts9012
    @dyxanyouts9012 Před 6 lety +39

    Aw nooooo, the sad part is it’s actually a well structured and well defined argument that I’m agreeing with. If I could subscribe again I would.

  • @Endophin
    @Endophin Před 6 lety +214

    Pancake uploaded?!? *Y E E T*

  • @darkpyro786
    @darkpyro786 Před 5 lety +17

    Aaaand they made her character even worse in KH3 again lmaooo

    • @mishoa1
      @mishoa1 Před 5 lety +4

      You must have played a different game than, becuase KH3 completed her arc. Aqua's problem has always been trying to take too much on by herself. She's still fighting the darkness in the deepest place even without a keyblade after all. She literally was stripped of everything, and when Sora reaches his hand out, she takes it, knowing that even with nothing she was never alone.(her good friend actually being inside Sora and really being the one reaching out to her)
      they even took off the pressure of her being the only "master" during this crisis unlike before, and even showed that her time spent in the darkness still effects her(the scene with the huge swarm) and it wasn't just a one off thing that she overcame the second she was back in the light.
      There's wasn't much more you could expect from the character, like at all. Roxas and Xion turned out to be much worse characters overall, they had minimal pay off in 3 for their arcs.

    • @photonalchemist6574
      @photonalchemist6574 Před 5 lety +6

      Seeing her ready to fight again at the end of 0.2 established her as someone who doesnt give up. 3 kinda does away with this by having her not do anything. The scene where she gave up was also out of character. What she shouldve done is, as the strongest wielder there, gone up to attack it like riku did. Seeing her get overpowered by the tornado would instill the sense of hopelessness that the scene was trying to present.

  • @dbert1024
    @dbert1024 Před 6 lety +6

    1:53 I think Just a Pancake is talking to someone, but nobody is there. Nobody is there. *Nobody* .

  • @dezdoss5388
    @dezdoss5388 Před 6 lety +13

    This video actually made sense for once and isn't just memes. Best video so far, jokes AND an actual opinion.

  • @pixu5221
    @pixu5221 Před 6 lety +16

    This video is.... different....
    I actually like it

  • @akumaten
    @akumaten Před 6 lety +6

    3:08 - 3:15
    This can apply to Naruto as a whole.
    I can write a thesis on how Naruto and Sasuke's "relationship" is the worse

  • @Beaudry007
    @Beaudry007 Před 6 lety +12

    I'm from the year 2028 and I can finally say KH 3 maybe will come out next year next to half life 3

  • @Dasheble
    @Dasheble Před 6 lety +11

    Was not expecting a serious video from you (though I did enjoy it), but then you talked about KH3 arriving next year and it was all fixed again.

  • @tylerenright9691
    @tylerenright9691 Před 6 lety +14

    Just a Pancake, let me preface this by saying that I almost never subscribe to anyone. There are only a handful of channels on my subscription list, and you sir are on it. For so long, I've been forced to listen to everyone raving about how Aqua is the best character in the whole franchise. But now, finally, I've met someone who was perfectly able to describe exactly all the problems I've always had with her. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar! I've thoroughly enjoyed all your videos so far, and don't mind you popping up on my notifications list (which normally is so annoying!) Just keep doing what your doing, because it's working for you!
    Now, if you could just admit to yourself that Xion is a good character. Then we'd be, like, kindred spirits or something.

  • @FueryMistGaming
    @FueryMistGaming Před 6 lety +7

    Did....I just learn something from Pancake's channel?

  • @StarluxXIII
    @StarluxXIII Před 6 lety +68

    "next year"
    N E X T Y E A R
    GUYS JUST A PANCAKE IS OUT GOD! SUB TO HIM
    BUT IF HE SAYS THAT THE GAME WILL COME OUT NEXT YEAR, IT WILL!
    #KH3FOR2019

    • @colezac2272
      @colezac2272 Před 6 lety +1

      Bladeofthedark ™ n o

    • @StarluxXIII
      @StarluxXIII Před 6 lety +1

      he said so, so its gonna happen!

    • @BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE
      @BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE Před 6 lety

      I can't. You know why? Because of the *DARKNESS* . Ansem would kill me.....

    • @DvdLr7943
      @DvdLr7943 Před 6 lety +2

      BladeOfTheDark you were right

    • @coloryournight
      @coloryournight Před 6 lety +1

      BladeOfTheDark Yep. He was right, he must be some God.

  • @TackyRackyComixNEO
    @TackyRackyComixNEO Před 6 lety +5

    How the fuck is it that this is actually a fantastic bit of analysis on these characters

  • @SorcerorNobody
    @SorcerorNobody Před 6 lety +3

    As much as I like Aqua, this is legitimately the best I've seen anyone explain a critique of her character. And done, of course, in that inimitable Just a Pancake style.

  • @Jonewii
    @Jonewii Před 6 lety +16

    Great video, I hope you do similar style videos about other characters as well.

  • @amirgarcia547
    @amirgarcia547 Před 3 lety +4

    Dayum, this’s actually a pretty deep and insightful analysis sometimes tbh. I guess even after playing BBS, the reason I still found Xion to be my favorite female KH character is that she actually struggles throughout the course of the game, whether it due to being shunned by Riku and Saïx or eventually learning that she’s nothing more than a hollow puppet meant to serve the organization’s goals, which’s to basically SUCC all of Sora’s (and to an extension Roxas) memories and power after the organization failed to capture him. And then her main struggle is in either confronting this and returning to Sora or remaining with her friends. And she ultimately ends up paying the price for it in her final clash with her close friend...
    Aqua meanwhile felt the least interesting and fleshed out of the Keyblade trio imo. Terra struggled with the darkness in his heart and controlling it, basically making him Riku 2.0 (or 1.0, since he technically came first), whereas Ventus had his naïveté shattered by realizing his friendship wouldn’t last forever and learned what his true purpose is. Aqua just...well, more or less exists in order to help her friends, which makes her lack an identity of her own.
    But then we fast forward to 0.2, where I felt *much* more invested in her character since here we struggle with fighting in the realm of darkness, and being there for so long has truly taken a toll on her mind and made her have doubts and insecurities in her actions. A part of her truly wants to give up and give into the darkness, and yet a small part still doesn’t want to lose hope, hence why she desperately chases the mirages of Terra and Ventus she sees. And in the end, even with presented to a chance to finally escape, she instead sacrifices her freedom in order to save Riku and Mickey, which’s truly selfless and noble.
    So tl;dr, 0.2 definitely improved Aqua despite its super short length, and I’d say she more than deserved her happy ending once KH3 eventually rolled around.

  • @ghosthuntermike2592
    @ghosthuntermike2592 Před 6 lety +5

    And then she becomes one with Darkness.
    *KEYBLADE*

  • @gigaganon
    @gigaganon Před 5 lety +12

    Now you could add to the title how KH3 unfixed it again! What a joke

  • @ChefinBb
    @ChefinBb Před 5 lety +5

    Lets just hope KH3 does a similar thing next year...
    [sad trombone]

  • @KaiserShounen
    @KaiserShounen Před 6 lety +6

    This just a pancake vid was a little to... Down to earth. What kind of ham sandwhich madness is this?

    • @ShnobbsReal
      @ShnobbsReal Před 6 lety

      Kaiser Shounen reminds me of something Cynical would say lol.

    • @KaiserShounen
      @KaiserShounen Před 6 lety

      No he would say what kind of pig nipple sandwhich madness is this

  • @myungwonbaik1982
    @myungwonbaik1982 Před 6 lety +13

    I thought this was a joke, but it actually is serious.

  • @DameOfDiamonds
    @DameOfDiamonds Před 6 lety +17

    Wow an actual serious review are you sure you're pancake?

  • @camaileon1405
    @camaileon1405 Před 4 lety +4

    It's really funny because this stuff is actually true while it seems like its all just a meme

  • @ASauce.2.0
    @ASauce.2.0 Před 6 lety +269

    Eh. I prefer Waffles

  • @TheAuNinja2
    @TheAuNinja2 Před 6 lety +121

    Now talk about why you think Xion is a bad character. I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning for that.

    • @Swordkiller55623
      @Swordkiller55623 Před 6 lety +16

      "Roxas? What do you mean?" -Axel Kh358/2 days/SAVEEEEEMEEEE

    • @seranrevere865
      @seranrevere865 Před 6 lety +13

      How does one remember Xion? I forgot about her. cx

    • @TheAuNinja2
      @TheAuNinja2 Před 6 lety +33

      -Unversed Fantasy- I don't know, but there's this running joke where Pancake talks about how some character named "Xion" is a terrible character. Not knowing who they are, I'd like to know why.

    • @seranrevere865
      @seranrevere865 Před 6 lety +4

      Brian Manley Jr. Sorry, I was making a bad joke. Though I'm interested in that as well!

    • @TheAuNinja2
      @TheAuNinja2 Před 6 lety +6

      -Unversed Fantasy- Understood.

  • @TheDeagster877
    @TheDeagster877 Před 6 lety +5

    "Aqua translates to subscribe to Just a Pancake in German."
    Ok I believe you.

  • @Thekirbwhokirbs
    @Thekirbwhokirbs Před 6 lety +14

    Holy shit Pancake is friends with John Cena

  • @snowdropberry
    @snowdropberry Před 4 lety

    I hope you make more videos like these in the future. I love all ur goofy ones but this one had a really great blend of making a point and the same silliness

  • @femorllarina9395
    @femorllarina9395 Před 6 lety

    This is actually really impresive, youre good at this and I personally would love to see you make more

  • @KaiserShounen
    @KaiserShounen Před 6 lety +8

    I talk like that to people after i break into their homes all the time. Just last week i met this guy Terry. We got along once he put down his shotgun. We're going out for Arbys tomorrow night. He promised not to handcuff me into a chair this time.

    • @ThePenitentMan1
      @ThePenitentMan1 Před 6 lety

      Is that why that random stranger knocked on my door and gave me free handcuffs?

    • @KaiserShounen
      @KaiserShounen Před 6 lety

      Exactly. Aqua, Ventus and Terra's friendship makes sense now right? HAHAHAHAHA

  • @standard1703
    @standard1703 Před 5 lety +5

    He puts a lot of comedic parts in it, but this seriously puts a needed point on the character personality and development

  • @AmateurAnimations65
    @AmateurAnimations65 Před rokem +2

    As an Aqua fan, I can 100% agree with this analysis. At first I thought Aqua being all moody and depressed in 0.2 was a bit weird, but then I realized, "Oh yeah, she's been spending the last decade or so in the Kingdom Hearts equivalent of actual Hell with endless hordes of monsters constantly trying to eat her heart, I wouldn't exactly be all smiles and friendship at that point either". Frankly the fact that she's able to keep fighting the darkness at that point at all speaks volumes to why she is considered a Master. Hopefully when Kingdom Hearts 4 comes out 17 years from now we'll get to see Aqua's personality when she's not completely bogged down by worrying about her friends. At this point the gang's been reunited, there's no Terra falling to darkness or Ventus taking the most epic power nap in the universe to live rent free in her head anymore, so hopefully we'll get to see a side of Aqua that doesn't need "She cares about her friends, Terra and Ventus" added to the description.

  • @stevenseymour696
    @stevenseymour696 Před 6 lety

    So found your vids recently and boy did you hit the nail on the head woth the release date. GJ!

  • @yoshimitsui2
    @yoshimitsui2 Před 6 lety +102

    Well it does makes sense for Aqua about friendship.

  • @FranzAgEn
    @FranzAgEn Před 6 lety +7

    That Kairi laugh thoo

  • @mthcomics4002
    @mthcomics4002 Před 4 lety +1

    When I’m bored I literally just scroll through your channel rewatching these things :,D

  • @whatsthatsupposedtomean3104

    "Aqua means subscribe to Just A Pancake in German"
    This is amazing information

  • @Shadowslash1
    @Shadowslash1 Před 2 lety +4

    I think the reason Aqua seemed so bland in BBS is because she kind of was the 3rd wheel. Despite meeting Kairi, we knew nothing about her and BBS was explaining the fates of Ventus and Terra. It really didn't feel like Nomura had an idea what to do with Aqua's character, thus she spent most of her time chasing her friends shadows only to fall to darkness.
    I do agree with you though, 0.2 did bring alot of depth to Aqua. Where she has a long look in the mirror and does everything she can to keep herself from shattering to pieces, desperately clinging to even a semblance of herself and resisting the darkness for ten years.

  • @TheXhanort
    @TheXhanort Před 6 lety +7

    "... with Kindgom hearts 3... when it gets released next year." Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • @kiomori
    @kiomori Před 6 lety +7

    A good analysis! I really hope Aqua is better in KH3. She has so much potential as a character.

  • @poisax
    @poisax Před 4 lety +7

    "Let's just hope Kingdom Hearts 3 does a similar thing when it gets released next year."
    Unfortunately, it's worse.

  • @Nenilein
    @Nenilein Před 6 lety +68

    I personally disagree, because I always saw Aqua’s character in BbS to be more about the struggle between her sense of duty and her devotion to her friends, rather than just the later, but that’s just how I read it. We’re all entitled to our own opinions~

    • @tianathekey9449
      @tianathekey9449 Před 6 lety +13

      I agree

    • @Gamelover254
      @Gamelover254 Před 6 lety +20

      Been looking for the right words, thank you! Her entire character in Birth By Sleep is about her trying to be a good Keyblade Master, and listing to orders given to her by her superior, and still trying to maintain a friendship she cares about. It was never just “friends” to me.

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Před 5 lety +6

      Nenilein even if that were the case I've seen hundreds of Shonen anime series that does that concept better, and it doesn't make you want to turn off your computer/tv screen.

  • @kingleonidas2182
    @kingleonidas2182 Před 6 lety +11

    Just saying, Aqua could’ve saved both Terra, Ventus, AND Eraqus if she had just went with Terra as opposed to sitting there for a while.

    • @BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE
      @BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE Před 6 lety +3

      I mean she didn't know what was going to transpire so......

    • @kingleonidas2182
      @kingleonidas2182 Před 6 lety +4

      DetectiveEthanaterSpiritOfBobbyFulbrightGamer. This is true, but still. If she was really Terra’s friend, she would’ve gone with him.

    • @Ombby
      @Ombby Před 6 lety +1

      While I get and partly agree with you, it's never that simple on the spot. While some people would chase their friends all over the world, some people prefer to give others space, when they are upset

    • @kingleonidas2182
      @kingleonidas2182 Před 6 lety

      Ombbyy. Of course, but that doesn’t change what she COULD’VE done to save everyone.

  • @elking.b2643
    @elking.b2643 Před 5 lety +2

    " Aqua = Subscribe to Just a Pancake "
    Sora : Ok I believe you !

  • @TheOtherSideBooks
    @TheOtherSideBooks Před 6 lety +5

    “He’s got friendship written all over him”

  • @Vinimous
    @Vinimous Před 6 lety +3

    This was really interesting and had just the right amount of comedy. Great job dude

  • @spatalottakittens
    @spatalottakittens Před 5 lety +3

    To be honest the novel fixes this problem too. There's a few chapters of the book dedicated to showcasing how Terra, Aqua, and Ventus when they were younger, and then their friendship building over time. Most of the time it takes place immediately after Xehanort left Ventus with Eraqus, and a young Aqua and Terra trying to help Eraqus get Ven back on his feet; but then it focuses on the Wayfinder Trio's friendship building once Ventus is healed. It was pretty damn wholesome. Not to mention they use that time to explore the characters more, and even give them some nice quirks that helps humanize them. Honestly the scenes from the novel should have been in the game, it would have fixed so many problems it had.

  • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668

    Literally next year from this video's creation. See you in March.

  • @SquishBaron
    @SquishBaron Před 6 lety +5

    Wait a justapancake video which actually analyzes the characters if kingdom hearts accurately and not 100% memes... This is heresy to the 572.69th degree

  • @14megasxlr
    @14megasxlr Před 6 lety +4

    >"When it gets released next year"
    > *checks video publishing date*
    >Jan 17, 2018
    HE KNEW

  • @patch141
    @patch141 Před 6 lety +4

    "Hey, guys! Just one singular pancake here."

  • @saborsora4938
    @saborsora4938 Před 6 lety

    This was actually a really cool video that looked into the many problems this series has. I would love to see more of something like that!

  • @BigGreenDub
    @BigGreenDub Před rokem

    I love how you were able to combine your analysis with humor. I would love to make more vidoes like this! I wanted to add more analysis in my newest but I think it ended becoming more humoristic than anything else😅Great job bro!