I have a bunch of Moleskine notebooks, but once I started down the fountain pen path, couldn’t use them. Feathering, ghosting, and bleeding is pretty bad in them. Now Leuchtturm I have to be careful, some inks will bleed (like Noodler’s American Aristocracy). The Rhodia notebook I just finished never had an issue with bleeding or ghosting. I comfortably used both sides of the pages, but the coating makes the paper very slick and some nibs/ink combos had a issues with skipping and hard starts.
Similar expirience. I started on some generic company diary and wanted something fancier. I was quitre surprised that the paper performed worse, the lines feathers and it has quite heavy ghosting. I got couple of sizes and limited editions. They are ok to use but next time i will give a try to the Leuchtturm.
This was such a helpful video, just what I was looking for! Those closeups did a really good job of showing the quality of the paper. Helped me make a decision about which notebook to go for for my journaling, thanks! Btw, have you tried Dingbats and if so I wonder what you think of them?
Moleskine was founded in 1997 and named after the book style which had come to be known as moleskine because of Bruce Chatwin. Their site cleverly calls their books 'the heir and successor to the legendary notebook used by' etc etc. Hemingway and Van Gough died long before the company existed. For me, the soft cover plain Moleskines are lovely things a they have nicer paper than the lined books, but I find their hardcovers disappointing. I'd go Leuchtturm for those too. I haven't tried their soft covers, but I certainly intend to after a positive experience with their Bullet Journal hard cover.
Bravo ! Hemingway died 36 years ... and V.V. Gogh 107 years before the compagny behind the moleskine-books was started. It is also written in the pamphlet in the notebook. Clearly this guy can't read..... or just love to lie.
I like Moleskine agendas because of their structure. I use the "week on the right / lined page on the left" version, which is something I haven't found in other brands. The paper IS a bit thin, but I don't use fountain pens /markers on it so I don't mind it too much.
The thickness of the paper isn't the issue. It's the contents of the paper. I'm a long time user of Hobonichi planners which have Japanese paper that works well with fountain pens, gel pens, ball point pens, and roller balls.
I don’t like how Moleskin paper takes ink. I enjoyed seeing the journals and it makes me wish I had the need for these lovely books. But, I don’t know what I would do with them since I don’t journal. Maybe some useful suggestions?
Do you feel yourself wishing the Leuchtturm paper was a little thicker? It may annoy me (I write in darker brown and green inks) to see what I’ve written on the previous page when writing on both sides of the page. It may be a trick of the camera, but it looks as if the paper is a bit thin. Granted, I do daily write with an extra fine-somewhat stiff nib, so it may not be a factor. Anyways, great video, thanks for sharing your thoughts with these two notebooks!
I can live with the minimal ghosting some inks have through the page, the normal notebooks are 80gsm but I have noticed they just released a 120gsm notebook. That sounds like it would solve the issue, I need to give it a go also
@@SorrowisKnowledge I know, right? I didn't encounter Leuchtturms until I was (briefly) living in Berlin, and I was prepared to reject them on sight -- simply because of how similar they looked to a Moleskine, I thought they were some store-brand German knock-off? But, then I saw on the belly-band a *picture* of a fountain pen, and (though my knowledge of German was almost negligible) I could tell it was saying fountain-pen-friendly... Well, then I had to try it! I had one as my travel-journal for the rest of the trip. during (The stickers for labeling the cover/spine are not as sticky as I need them to be for them to really stay on long enough, here in San Francisco: fog = damp)
Can you show us your jounals pls? I like that black notebook with white dots with like a circle at the top the cover. I also love the quality of Leuchtturm1917, I've heard that Leuchtturm's paper is thicker than Moleskine.
The one with the white dots is the David Bowie Moleskine. I'll try to add more of it in future videos. Leuchtturm does feel slightly thicker to me so that would make sense.
As far as I know Moleskine has 70gsm paper and Leuchtturm has 80gsm paper. The paper thickness doesn't say a lot about how fountain pen friendly it is. I suspect Leuchtturm, being a German brand, select their paper to be more ink friendly as all students learn to write with a fountain pen in elementary school. BTW, Tomoe River paper, which is considered very fountain pen friendly, has 52gsm.
I have a bunch of Moleskine notebooks, but once I started down the fountain pen path, couldn’t use them. Feathering, ghosting, and bleeding is pretty bad in them. Now Leuchtturm I have to be careful, some inks will bleed (like Noodler’s American Aristocracy). The Rhodia notebook I just finished never had an issue with bleeding or ghosting. I comfortably used both sides of the pages, but the coating makes the paper very slick and some nibs/ink combos had a issues with skipping and hard starts.
I agree with every comment made here. the Leuchtturm 1917 is the best daily use notebook for fountain pen users.
Similar expirience. I started on some generic company diary and wanted something fancier. I was quitre surprised that the paper performed worse, the lines feathers and it has quite heavy ghosting. I got couple of sizes and limited editions. They are ok to use but next time i will give a try to the Leuchtturm.
I love your handwriting!
Thank you so much!!
This was such a helpful video, just what I was looking for! Those closeups did a really good job of showing the quality of the paper. Helped me make a decision about which notebook to go for for my journaling, thanks! Btw, have you tried Dingbats and if so I wonder what you think of them?
I'm glad it helped, I knew I had to show the difference after trialing both over a long time. I haven't tried Dingbats but I will take a look!
Moleskine was founded in 1997 and named after the book style which had come to be known as moleskine because of Bruce Chatwin. Their site cleverly calls their books 'the heir and successor to the legendary notebook used by' etc etc. Hemingway and Van Gough died long before the company existed. For me, the soft cover plain Moleskines are lovely things a they have nicer paper than the lined books, but I find their hardcovers disappointing. I'd go Leuchtturm for those too. I haven't tried their soft covers, but I certainly intend to after a positive experience with their Bullet Journal hard cover.
Bravo ! Hemingway died 36 years ... and V.V. Gogh 107 years before the compagny behind the moleskine-books was started.
It is also written in the pamphlet in the notebook. Clearly this guy can't read..... or just love to lie.
My experience matches yours. Thanks for the review.
I like Moleskine agendas because of their structure. I use the "week on the right / lined page on the left" version, which is something I haven't found in other brands. The paper IS a bit thin, but I don't use fountain pens /markers on it so I don't mind it too much.
The thickness of the paper isn't the issue. It's the contents of the paper. I'm a long time user of Hobonichi planners which have Japanese paper that works well with fountain pens, gel pens, ball point pens, and roller balls.
Hobonichi "weeks" have the same structure. But they're quite small.
Enjoyed the comparison. Thank you...
I don’t like how Moleskin paper takes ink. I enjoyed seeing the journals and it makes me wish I had the need for these lovely books. But, I don’t know what I would do with them since I don’t journal. Maybe some useful suggestions?
I have a notebook dedicates to books I've read and notes about them.
i really like music so i write down all the albums i have listened to with some of my thoughts. also i keep a dream journal
Sketch, draw.... but with the Moleskine only using pencils. .. Even using ballpoint pens makes the moleskine useless for the back-side... for me.
Do you feel yourself wishing the Leuchtturm paper was a little thicker? It may annoy me (I write in darker brown and green inks) to see what I’ve written on the previous page when writing on both sides of the page. It may be a trick of the camera, but it looks as if the paper is a bit thin. Granted, I do daily write with an extra fine-somewhat stiff nib, so it may not be a factor.
Anyways, great video, thanks for sharing your thoughts with these two notebooks!
I can live with the minimal ghosting some inks have through the page, the normal notebooks are 80gsm but I have noticed they just released a 120gsm notebook. That sounds like it would solve the issue, I need to give it a go also
HARD AGREE!
"Parcae Factores Moleskinie Exsecrentur" - Curse the Makers of Moleskine (according to a very sympathetic viewer)
I didn't expect there to be such a difference, but there is!
@@SorrowisKnowledge
I know, right?
I didn't encounter Leuchtturms until I was (briefly) living in Berlin, and I was prepared to reject them on sight -- simply because of how similar they looked to a Moleskine, I thought they were some store-brand German knock-off? But, then I saw on the belly-band a *picture* of a fountain pen, and (though my knowledge of German was almost negligible) I could tell it was saying fountain-pen-friendly... Well, then I had to try it! I had one as my travel-journal for the rest of the trip.
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(The stickers for labeling the cover/spine are not as sticky as I need them to be for them to really stay on long enough, here in San Francisco: fog = damp)
Well done
Combine the best features from the two😊
That would be ideal!
Can you show us your jounals pls? I like that black notebook with white dots with like a circle at the top the cover. I also love the quality of Leuchtturm1917, I've heard that Leuchtturm's paper is thicker than Moleskine.
The one with the white dots is the David Bowie Moleskine. I'll try to add more of it in future videos. Leuchtturm does feel slightly thicker to me so that would make sense.
I own both too, and feel no difference in paper thickness, for the pens I use it's identical, guess buy both and see and draw your own conclusion.
As far as I know Moleskine has 70gsm paper and Leuchtturm has 80gsm paper. The paper thickness doesn't say a lot about how fountain pen friendly it is. I suspect Leuchtturm, being a German brand, select their paper to be more ink friendly as all students learn to write with a fountain pen in elementary school. BTW, Tomoe River paper, which is considered very fountain pen friendly, has 52gsm.
Thanks!
What is the red ink you used in 2:20?
That would be Diamine Oxblood, great looking ink