The Real Reason Why Red Velvet's Irene Is Scared Of Men
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- apart from her talents, red velvet’s irene is known for her stoic expressions around men, so let’s find out why she is scared of them! or...are they scared of her?
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The fact that she got hate for reading a book about the hardships of women in a conservative country
I can't----
Yh and then Namjoon reads a feminist book and he gets praised like Wth as much as I love him its so unfair
@@k.a.r.d0t453 totally
@@k.a.r.d0t453 wth?! it's so unfair!
@@k.a.r.d0t453 fr
@@k.a.r.d0t453 coughs *double standards* coughs
Can someone give an award to whoever raised Jackson. Because he’s the example of a true gentlemen.
That whoever you refer to is none other that mama Wang and Papa Wang 😌his parents
A definitely, husband material.
He has good parents and naturally has a good character too.
nah, being a gentlement is anti feminist and suppresses women empowerment
@@incased_pol7335 are you serious? How why would you say that
Irene was never rude, she was just being a human who has feelings. She can feel uncomfortable, violated and upset whenever she wants. She can read whatever books she wants. She can live her life however she wants because she is a human who has the right to to make her own decisions. If people really loved her, then feel for her and understand how they are hurting her
Fr, it seems like people are just mad at her because she has boundaries. I think she's also very direct and people take it the wrong way.
I think all the female idols should be expressive like her....there have been a lot of times when the women have not been treated properly on the korean variety shows. I think Irene is bold not to shy away from saying "no" or giving that "I don't like it look" or "that's not funny" look...I support that.
so well said, i fully agree.
irene's no-nonsense attitude is really refreshing to see in this industry
YESS PERIODT SPEAK OUT FOR IT
Yes, exactly.
Fun fact: when Irene mentioned the feminist book it became a best seller and many young kids started requesting for more feminist books to read thanks to Irene, Irene is also known to be a very loving person who gives great advice and inspired many young reveluvs.
Exactly 😌 she's literally the perfect role model people can look up too
@@lgt_jne may the lord give you his light
@@matt.arsmith no thanks 🙂
There's someone that deleted their comment saying "why is believing In feminist ok but when someone believes in masculinism it's sexist" 🤡🤦♀️
UM SIR .. WHOEVER THAT WAS ,FYI FEMINIST IS 👩=👨, not 👩>👨....😶 A simple google search will answer that question
Can you tell me which book was it?
Nevermind watched the video and later on lt was mentioned.. Thanks
Honestly give Jackson an award-
so true. he's really respectful to everyone!
No.
He deserves much more than just an award
Same-
YES!!
Yes he such a gentlemen thank God he was there but he deserves more then an award
Besides social intelligence, Jackson seems to have this impressively high emotional intelligence that makes him aware of others’ emotions on a nearly unattainable level for most people. Respect for the parents who raised this beautiful young man.
He is not as good as u think he is a racist
@@sidrakhan6566 Ok. What makes you say that?
@@sidrakhan6566 shut it
True Jackson is a very humble soul love him
She just literally my vibe. She doesn't take any malicious joke. I love her even more.
People who appear cold or uncomfortable are just trying to exist most of the time. Don’t give hate to someone, just because they have a cold resting face at times
You're absolutely right. We need to show respect to Irene who had been in the entertainment industry for a long time now. She may look cold when we look at her but if we can all see the good side in her she is a really nice person.
I felt called out by this statement lmao. But seriously, i often get scolded and people even somewhat refuse to befriended me because of my resting cold face. Some said i look intimidating, some said i look like i'm always angry.
@@absolutelynotellen I feel the same, that’s why I said it lol
Congrats 🎉 1k😁🎉
Plus people should realize she feels fine with some guys. Like The guys from Got7. I don’t want someone I’m not friends just touching me without permission especially if it’s not something basic like a handshake.
She is not being rude. She is just expressing it when she doesn't like a man touching her. All female idols need to be like her and protect themselves.
Yes speak with your 👀and facial expression they will back off.
True but some of the cases, she seems like the sensitive kind that gets angry at the littlest things. Like when the guy asked if it was the slippers and she gave him a death stare... Sorry but was that necessary?
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj women aren't obligated to be complicit with everything men do. If she felt uncomfortable at that moment, giving that look is completely ok. You may feel like it was unnecessary, but to her it was a way to stop him from nagging her further on. Stop making women feel like they're overreacting and being sensitive when feeling intimidated or not heard by others.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj She doesn’t owe him anything
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj yup she is easly mad at little things and she acts like a diva especially to people who she considers are not on her same "level"
I love that she can set boundaries and knows what she’s comfortable with, I hope she knows how greatly she influences young girls especially. when she mentioned that book it immediately became a best seller and inspired many to learn more about feminism, which isn’t ideal in such a strictly conservative country like South Korea. what an amazing soul she has, such a beautiful woman inside and out. thank you Irene, us reveluvs love you always!
I love Irene because of this! I also notice she is comfortable with some SM male idols which reassures they must (potentially) be good people or at least she is comfy with them
If men behave like that “the not needed touches” like SanE did it would be uncomfortable for any woman
We need more gentlemen like Jackson Wang
Ya
Absolutely
@h8babibunni she just said we need more men like him tho you’re right they might feel entitled but come to think of it some men can be like dogs, when they do smthn and get so much praised for it then they’ll keep doing it
Your 900th like :D
True, there are people that are sensitive about being touched whether it be by a man or woman, and that needs to be respected as they just want to have their own personal space.
She's a woman with boundaries and we love her for that
@Bonk Did you even try to understand what the OP was saying?
@Bonk wtf bro, you should go "find" something better to comment
Wrong - she shows any closeness to a male in any way dating scandal rip brand sponsors.
No she's just crazy and a prude
I mean Irene is my HateLove, i hate it to love her. She is kinda rude, yes, but thats why i love her. I love women with mistakes. Bcs no one is Perfect.
Irene might be one of the rare woman now a days. I can feel an independent vibe from her. Like she would never depend on any man.
Perhaps, she can be described as a Sigma Female.
@@rzdanger stop with this stupid sigma thing
Never depends on any man when her company she's under is a man ?
Just curious by the statement
@@Emmacoffee8 seriously?
@@Emmacoffee8 then should we change the ceo to women
why tf does everyone expect women to be smiley all the time. Irene has the right to make any fucking expression she wants without being hated on. She's not rude. just leave her tf alone
Actually San E kinda has a reputation for being a misogynist. He has been known to call feminist mentally ill and the lyrics of his song Feminist are quite unflattering to women. He had a stage performance where the words 'I love spycam' appeared in the background.
I heard his song feminist was from a hater point of view or at least some comments said that
@@brennathecatlover4360 He just said that because of the backlash he got..
@@airabb how do u know that was the reason?
@@brennathecatlover4360 It's obvious, he clearly pulled that out of his ass. He even contradicted himself (he said that this was all supposed to be from the mysogynist's perspective, but in the songwriting video thing, he had said that he wrote it based on personal experiences)
@@airabb maybe his personal experiences were from what he heard other people say?
IRENE DOES NOT HATE MEN. She is usually very lovely and pleasant with everyone she meets men and or women. But obviously she’s going to be a little startled and taken aback by some things once in a while as anyone else would. Just leave her alone and mind your own business :)
Also with the Heechul thing, SM artist (at least older ones) are all friends to some degree so it was all fun and jokes on Knowing bros. You can’t assume people just hate others just from one or two instances on camera or just from how they look :)
I agree. I was gonna comment about Knowing Bro's as you can watch several different shows and similar videos where Irene is extremely warm and cannot stop laughing and appears to be very comfortable. I think she may be more guarded when there's a large, live audience but that's pretty normal.
💯👍
yea like look when shes with shinee or nct members, shes comfortable with the people shes close with but for San-E lmao that guy does not deserve to get close w her
@who cares about grammer and spelling please..lets stop assuming idol's sexualities for them :)). we do not know irene personally thus we won't know if she's into men, women..anyone in general.
@Kim Vuong I think you may have directed your comment to the wrong person. I don't think Irene hates men.
i really love Irene for who she is , I really love her personality and her blank face , its not necessary to smile all the time even when u don't want to, she's perfect the way she is❤
I am SICK AND TIRED of seeing female idols being treated like shit!
After seeing this I really appreciate Jackson he is such a gentleman
♡
Agreed!
Agreed 2
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Agreed 4
"Give Jackson some award." When we start to even praise someone just based on some basic respect they give to someone else, we know already there's something wrong. Respect and providing personal space is a basic manner--- Irene is totally normal to get mad when she was offended. We got to stop being double standard to women.
yeah but it shows that there are so many trash men that decent men like jackson is now a rarity. the standard is just very low for men but very high for women. it sucks
Exactly!!
This comment. Bravo.
@@felix-xd4mx
We should change it
Its also cause people forgot that having an attitude and being asshole are 2 different things. People just praise people for bring bad in the name of attitude
She is just not letting anyone walk over her
She knows her self worth and doesn’t like it when people don’t respect boundaries
She has the characteristics of a leader
I love this woman so fing much and I will never stop loving and supporting her period
I seriously hate it Whenever women get defensive and sassy the men really get butthurt like how fragile one's masculinity has to be and then they end up calling the woman "ice princess" or "rude" STOP👏 WITH 👏 THE 👏 DOUBLE 👏 STANDARDS
I K R !!!
Men doing it = swag, cool, super amazing, WOW
Women doing it = rude, uncultured, mannerless, cold hearted.
Jennie and Irene to name 2 victims of this. No wonder they both are really close friends, been there,know how it feels like,support each other.
@@FOREVER-yr7nc exactly
It's engraved in people's mind that if u r a woman u always have to be welcoming, generous, gentle and have a pleasant smile on your face cause that's the sign of submission
I can name more than 20 male idols who have resting B face and then they're considered to be hot , sexy , bad boy
But when it comes to women ?? Pffttt
I was sooo scared when Irene got into the controversy cause I saw a lot of youtube videos targeting her and her behaviour throughout the timeline
She's like that , she's not welcoming to people especially men and so am I
I just don't like any male presence around and still I get to be called names
@@seri4837 ikr , as Taylor swift said , a man can react but women can only over react . Nd the fact that there r girls who hate jennie , irene for having rest b face is so messed up !!!
@@niniluv5246 THISSS--right here
Period
They will go crawl, "nOt AlL MeN" when the moment a woman stands up for herself. Smh.
Let's be real. Irene is completely stunning, she is one of the best visuals in South Korea, so she must be aware that many people only like her because of her looks, for example, on Knowing Bros Irene was talking about something, and out of nowhere a guy asked is she had always been that pretty, which lead to a conversation about Irene's beauty. It doesn't matter what show they go to, the hosts ALWAYS talk about Irene's beauty, and I mean, who wouldn't right? She's the visual of her group. But the hosts are forgetting that she's also the main rapper, and the lead dancer and a vocalist, she's so freaking talented but people only focus on her beauty which is SO annoying to me as an Irene biased person.
Yeah and i get her because ofc she would have so many males fans that she doesn’t know wat there real intentions are
She is attractive but there are many many others too, so...
@FIGHTFANNERD9 So?
@FIGHTFANNERD9 You’re such a toxic fanboy,
How sad
@@iris7301 lol they are a troll. Look at their playlists.
I’m from the city and the blank face she has is a defense mechanism a lot of women around here have. You learn fast to be have a “mean” face so creepy men don’t come to you. Of course this gets guys telling you to smile but it’s better than that being sexually harassed. Both me and my mom have a RBF and my moms is pretty intense to the point she has frown lines i’m quite sure.
Omg yes, my resting face is naturally a rbf too but sometimes I exaggerate it to look even more mad/ annoyed so strangers (especially creepy men) won’t bother me because of how inaccessible/ reserved I look, like when I’m with my friends I’m not the one strangers usually ask for directions. I had classmates tell me that I looked intimidating at first and that they thought I was a mean b!tch/ snob, it’s just my resting face but they get surprised once they get to know me and find out that im actually a chill person
I love Irene, she’s amazing and I love that she has no problem giving people chills when they’re being rude
Irene's a queen .PERIOD.
Periodt!
PERIODT.
PERIODT
So many periods
@Oh Jeong-woo in your mind
I still don't understand why people make such a big deal out of the fact that irene doesn't want to smile or show emotions 24/7 is she supposed to smile all the time just for people's amusement? people always seem to praise men who never show emotions and call them deep and dreamy so why is it a problem when women don't smile?
Omg ikr? Like when a guy rolls his eyes the fans go "woah dreamy so hot omg marry me" but once a woman does it "ew she doesn't like her fans wow so rude" like what? It's just disgusting
@@tartfarted they forget that they're humans. Mentally deranged fans. What to do?
Indeed.
I feel like it’s more because she’s an idol. Her job is to literally sing for people’s entertainment. But they forget she isn’t only a pop idol but a human with human emotions.
I guarantee you the majority of girls feel uncomfortable around guys who you know are going to touch you.
because women are held to different bs standards which cater to men’s satisfaction:( that’s why strong women like irene reject those standards and stick up for themselves
she is so powerful for scaring men with just one look
Irene just keep being you, you don't have to be pretending to be someone or hiding your emotion, you're awesome 💜💜💜
Just the way you are
Jackson being the gentleman he is
Just reminded me of when Irene was fixing Her dress and Jin young was covering her
He then turned around quickly forgetting why he was covering her to begin with and turned back around embarrassed lol
GOT7 are angels
Irene is not scared of men... she's just being herself
you dont know
@@boratgranel2549 neither does this video
@@boratgranel2549 well you can’t just be ‘scared’ of a whole gender that’s ridiculous, she is just uncomfortable with people that touch her without her permission. And anyways, everyone should respect everyone’s private space.
What do you mean by that?
@@todostextbook813 meaning her behavior and resting bitch face is apart of her personality, it’s not because she’s scared she’s just not going to pretend and smile when a guy does something that makes her upset or uncomfortable.
I love her for being strong enough to put boundaries. Not one should make her feel uncomfortable
She flinches near men and her behavior is to be expected bc of predators around her, she's the "visual of kpop" and she does stand out bc of her beauty. Guys onscreen are not even afraid to flirt or touch her, imagine what might be happening behind the screen to her.
her own fandom’s jokes about her “hating men” honestly drew more hate to her than anything else…it’s obviously not cool to hate on someone for no reason but her fandom made it look like she hates men for no reason and that it’s super cool
So agree with you. The truth is she didn't even hate men, she's just uncomfortable with strangers (men). She is close with nct, exo suho and other sunbae from sm. And she can be comfortable around men (stranger) too like got7 Jin young and Jackson, bts jin, winner minho and more. She is just careful with her image, since fans constantly ship her with everyone (which is annoying). A lot of girls/boys relate to her somehow, personally I prefer being with girls and I'm happy finding celebrities like me
LOUDER OMG, its normalised too
@@yuna_ff1054 aren’t we all uncomfortable with strangers tbh
@@brennathecatlover4360 tbh yes/no it depend of the personality. Imo every human being has been comfortable with a stranger at least once in their life.
@@yuna_ff1054 true if it’s someone my age I’m usually more comfortable quickly
Id preffer someone like irene whos not afraid to show what ever she feels rather than the ones who is plastic. Irene is a strong woman and i admire her because of that.
I agree with you. Yeah she does have a snobbish resting face but when she is happy or sad or uncomfortable you will see it immediately. Even if she try to hide it you can still see it in her eyes. Her eyes is totally expressive. Maybe that is the reason I stan her. People might dislike her for being real but I like her for her genuine personality and not trying to fit in.
Me too♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@@saphirmidnight7669 There’s nothing really wrong with snobbish people. They appear snobbish when uncomfortable and they tend to be honest with their emotions
@@bmona7550 I know, because I’m one. Also, it is a form of defense mechanism against people who likes to take advantage.
Irene and Eunji stand out. People have to be scared and behave within their limits.
Shes not rude people just dont like the fact she has boundaries..
I love Irene so much it must be hard to always be smiling and being perfect for your fans
I'm a guy and even I often get really uncomfortable men because of their actions and words, so I can only imagine how much worse it would be for Irene! people really need to give her a break!
Especially when she’s literally one of the prettiest women according to Korea imagine the sexual harassment she must go through or already has gone through even before she got famous
When Irene gets hate for "hating men" when San E ACTUALLY HATES WOMEN
Is he gay?
@@Rengokuwhatareyoudoing just because a man hate woman doesn’t automatically mean he is gay.
@@Anon.279 I'm asking
Thank you for such an insightful video. I never heard about these issues but it is wonderful that someone like you has spoken out in support of this beautiful young lady.
I remember talking to someone about that situation with the stylist, and that someone's response to it was "She had it coming though, I mean she has such a bitchy face." I was literally talking about how Irene at least OWNED UP to her mistake, where as most celebs would've stayed silent/tried to sweep it under the rug. Since when did someone's face suddenly become a reason for them to be harassed online?
That other person was also a woman, so can confirm it's not always men who objectify Irene, a fair share of women do it too by reducing her to only a "pretty face". As a RV stan since debut, we know she's much more than that, seeing how she's willing to reflect and learn from mistakes just shows she wants to grow as a person. How can you NOT stan her?
So the male fans mentality is that women aren’t supposed to be feminist and shouldn’t be reading a book about THEM?!?? Bro wtf. Irene is so misunderstood in this industry like bruh what
most men out there are really misogynistic and hate women which is sad we live in a effed up world
@@peachesandroses99 Ironically feminists exist because of men like that. The more they complain about feminism the more feminism continues far longer. It is what it is
@@arlescenes modern feminism= man hate. No more no less. Don't give me that bullshit.
@@theonewhoismany8072 what-
@@arlescenes modern feminism is no more than man hate. I said what i said.
Rosé 🤝 Irene 🤝 Sana
Edit. I don't mean that Sana isn't comfortable with men
I ment that she is like Irene and Rosé who both don't like men
Hope ya got what I ment 👀👌
Lol yeah
Sana?
Isn't Sana pretty comfortable with men though
No hate ... sana literally acted like girlfriend for onc fans..along with other members
Maybe Mina?
Irene is just smarter and values integrity.
I love how her gaze is so powerful, such a queen 👑
Jackson Wang was definitely raised well and this world needs more people like him 💚
All the more reason to support and protect Irene, thank you for this video. 💝
y'all i stan irene's "don't touch me" attitude🤧 queen things
Being as beautiful as Irene is not easy. And I think that she realized this very young. Men can be exceptionally creepy when seeing a very beautiful women and with time women tend to really watch their behavior because they don't want to send "signals" that can be wrongly interpreted from the man's point of view.
Agreed, it happens
@ᴄʜᴀᴇʀᴀᴍᴇʟ ᴍɪʟᴋ ᴛᴀᴇ Exactly!
U put it so right
I can relate to this. I always feel unsafe when I go out
And im sure Irene got some reeeeally bad and creepy experiences with men, knowing how she’s a beauty in Korea. Edit : and knowing how Korean seems to be obsess with beauty
It's the way I can relate with Irene so much. Men make me anxious and a defensive mechanism of mine to cope with the anxiety is to hide my emotions and wear a poker face instead. I once got called a rock bc of how emotionless I get around men and it made me so angry and sad bc it's not like I want to feel anxious around men either. I can't imagine having to go through this as a celebrity where you're under the spotlight all the f*cking time. I really admire Irene.
The book thing. Is just insane. I cannot imagine what Irene is going through but stay strong. I peronally think shes just an intuitive person who is aware of her surrounding and doesn't take crap from no one
I can't remember the source but I read once that boys from other schools would come to Irene's school to look at her because she was so pretty. Can you imagine being objectified like that even as a child, and then becoming an idol thrust into the limelight as an actual child and having to deal with all the creeps who feel entitled to her simply because of her looks? Just...gross, man.
I don't blame her one bit.
Well, that definitely sounds real and not like you just made it up right now... Really.
@@xinceras-6542 unfortunately it apparently is a real story. i rmb those from back in sm rookies days, before irene even debuted. she was, whats the name again ? for incredible visuals ? i forgot. it's a word for pretty people school kids use a lot. any way, she was that and they would come and look.
i rmb that from the sm rookies days omg
@@wxkh1193 its ulzzang.
@@lune1102 yes ! that.
Irene has been constantly sexually harassed online by men all throughout her career and who knows what she has experienced privately by male celebrities. I always remember Sistar advice to young female idols of senior male celebrities and also other female stars mentioning receiving disturbing texts and calls from CEOs and senior male stars.
It's safe to say that based on Irene interactions with men, she is definitely traumatized by them and don't trust them which to be honest is almost all women in this world. It's sad how our gender has to constantly alert for things like that
Probably cuz she lives in korea country of the rice cowards as we call it in my nation
Oh Irene got abused
thats so stupid womenn arent all traumatized by men lol
@@jagason7494yeah, that's why yorbelize said 'almost'. Means 'not all women'.
@@jagason7494 learn how to read almost isn't the same as all go back to school ppl learn this shit in kindergarten
Honestly, bunch of respects for Irene, she isn't afraid of telling someone off and if she's tired and doesn't wanna act energetic and smile she does not smile or act energetic, she's just a normal person like everyone else
i love her i hope she’s okay
FIRST OF ALL.. SOMETIMES THATS JUST HER FACE. She obviously doesn't HATE them, probably just want her personal space. Imagine the number of creeps she's had to encounter. I swear the prettiest ones always get hate for the stupidest reason.
reminds me of jennie on bp documentary where she said “sometimes when i look like im tired and angry, that is my happy face” ppl need to understand that theyre not obliged to give people what they want all the time/ to smile everytime?! theyre allowed to express themselves in their own ways
@@hhana5190 tru. Just two best friends getting attacked cos of their beauty🫂 Anyway I'd really like to see these haters work as hard as THEY do, be as tired and worn out as they are and still smile for everyone and everytime 😒
@@baethor2793
Its interesting that if they were men, they would be called savage
Real examples are Yoongi & V
Indeed
@@hhana5190 as someone with a natural "bitch face" im with Jennie. People think I'm mad at them for something when really I'm not.
I want to cry
I really miss her
Please come back
she will in august soon! let's just wait with respect
@@sy-do3yt Yes!!
Me too i miss her
She is coming soon
where did she go?
can I just say thank you to Kookielit.... this is one of the only channels that present idols as people and treat them as such..... also they dont spew hateful opinions or comments..
THANK YOU KOOKIELIT!!!
Her beauty combine with her timid personality, in a country where man disrepect woman, im sure she has trauma and a lot of trouble growing up. She learned to keep a cold face to not getting trouble because she not bold enough to defend herself. And when she reaches her limit, she explodes.
I have some opinions as a fellow asian woman, living in a very conservative society.
I cannot count the number of times beautiful women (or just women) get lewd stares and touches from unknown men at any damn place. Also, it's always got to be the woman who has to bend to the will of their male counterparts. Even in jobs we get biased and at times are expected to work harder than most if we want to be taken seriously.
Female idols, as it is, go through a lot of mistreatment. On top of that Irene is known primarily cause of her visuals. I cannot imagine the number of times she probably had come across nasty comments or ill intentions and all this not just as an idol, maybe previously too. That comment from the male fan on LYSN surely wasn't the first or the last one (as sad as it is).
It's very normal for women to be wary of unknown people. Irene is also very introverted so it makes her extra cautious. If you see her around familiar people, you'll see how loud, chaotic, happy and free she looks.
She's not cold. She's just human guys. I get her. I have been like her at times around men. So there's really no logic in judging her.
I feel compelled to point out that there are literally hundreds of videos on this website of female fans inappropriately touching and even hitting male kpop idols. The vast, vast majority of fans are women, presumably including the majority of problematic ones. Bad men mistreat good women, bad women mistreat good men. It’s really not a competition.
I don't even know who she is just came across her from seeing a shorts about here wired manerizimes anyways i just got to say I'm not trying to judge her for being this way but what i didn't like what i got from this video is she only acts that way around and towards men but if it's a random female shes perfectly fine with them being close and touching her and having fun, if she's not okay with personal space i get it but she only does it to men i don't like it either but i don't like it when both women and men touch me or get in my space
@@ryananderson7382 I think it comes down to what you are and simply aren't personally ok with. As a woman I'm ok with another woman invading my personal space, even if I don't know them well, to a *certain* extent because they're fellow women. But if a man tried to do the same then yes, I'm gonna lock up and get uncomfortable.
You have to realize that the woman of this generation have been taught since day one to be weary of men we don't know well. Or just men in general, because they might try to assault us. That type of teaching gets drilled into a lot of our heads from a very young age to always be vigilant and protect yourself as much as you can.
Obviously a lot of these pretenses get dropped if you're dating a guy or just have a guy friend. But whenever it comes to a an unknown man invading your space? That uncomfortable feeling and mindest to guard yourself will most likely persist.
Irene actually has close male friends like Suho. But when someone is being weird around her, like with San E, she can't hide how off that makes her feel. Which is fine. That's a normal response.
@@Sogeking995 but that isn't equal to males harassing women. For women, it's gnawing fear, a fear of pure intimidation unlike men. Men are physically far stronger than most women, thus women touching them doesn't affect them like it does to women where they can always physically dominate any situation in case it goes awry and they brush it off as idle chatter. Also nowhere do women harass males to the extent where msles harass women. How dare you make this a centrist approach where they are billions of cases of males harassing women.
@@wrendum286 We are not talking about men and women in general. We are talking about fan harassment of Kpop idols. There are more male idols and significantly more female fans, so you are simply wrong on the numbers or prevalence. I don’t disagree that the power dynamics are different, but I’m not sure why you need to dismiss or even diminish what female fans do in order to feel better. That’s just apologist behavior. There are still tangible ways in which someone can harass a celebrity and make their life hell without literally assaulting or raping them, and the discussion doesn’t automaticity have to go to that extreme.
I as woman who has a pretty friend really understands irene's situation for being uncomfortable around men. whenever me and my friend hangs out, there will always some guys who looks at her with that hungry looks face. and believe me, it's really disgusting. even 2nd gen idols like sistar and snsd always warn their juniors to watch out around men in kpop industry. so irene who is one of top visual in kpop, might get a lot of uncomfortable treatments from men in the industry. so i think irene is not rude, she just being cautious.
Totally right
Ok, so I can relate to this... It's always like I am a creep magnet or something. I am not telling all men are like that cause I have met few gentlemen but others it's just disgusting. Even I get startled by some of the men who just put their hands on my shoulder without even asking my permission..so I can relate to Irene
And then some men wonder why some beautiful women date/marry sincere not conventionally attractive guys. Like there’s a reason people. They avoided f*ck boys
its a defense mechanism of woman towards a man who she really dont know or not close to her ...sometimes man look the woman like a wanton and its totally creepy.
Yeah like one time some older guy (btw im a minor) and some older guy was looking at me in a creepy way.... 😭 its gross
She is so sweet and lovely person. She is so adorable 🥰.People we are not the same. We have different characters and personalities. Just leaver alone and treats her with respect ✊. She is like that for a reason and I don’t blame him. I am a fan of Irene because she is an incredible human being ❤️🥰
I don’t know why people say Irene has a “cold” expression. She has a gentle and sweet face.
At this point, RBF face is considered "illegal" for female idols 💀😩
True
@ it means having a mean face when reasting
@ Resting B*tch Face
It's basically a feature of some people, they look sad and angry when they are 'not smiling '. So basically, they have to smile all the time not to look "rude"
@ Yea same
I have a face like that and I'm a guy
My mom tells me that I always look annoyed
@ it is not supposed to be rude, but people just assume it to be "rude"
I don’t think irene is scared of men but you can see that she gets uncomfortable around them. she seems more comfortable around her members, friends and girls. I feel like irene would feel uncomfortable and shy at first (around men and in people general) but I feel like she would slowly get comfortable the more you spend time with her.
i love her personality 😊😊
I really really like your content 🥰 I really appreciate what you did to explain Irene's condition. irene is just someone who only puts forward honesty. All the members of red velvet are good people, but especially for irene we have to dive deeper to get to know her.
Maybe “ uncomfortable around men “ and “ scared of how they might treat her” ~ she has boundaries and makes it clear. Most female idols put up with so much, I think. From public opinion to what they experience behind the scenes. Better to have an icy glare than to have to fake laugh when someone crosses the line.
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You have no idea how annoying it is to be asked to smile if you have a straight resting face and you have a lot going on in life.
*I love Irene's personality* 🥰
queen, love her
I feel Irene is the most relatable K-pop idol to me sometimes
Her SM co-artists, Jackson, Jin and some other male artists are respectful towards her. She is not afraid of these men
Edit : also the artists who are mentioned in the reply section like Park Bogum, Jinyoung etc.
Also Park Bogum And Jinyoung
Right. She has been Mc with jin many time. I know Jackson he is very respectful person.
Her smile is so precious 🥺
We're all human. Leave her alone and we'll be good. Thanks for making this video. I'm so glad many people share the same feels as me. 💗💗💗
I think we women can all agree, we had some trauma with men at some point, don't ever blame famous people. Because all eyes are on them especially since they're so attractive.
She did not rude to all mans but she dont like touching if mans behave like that then you have to show them their place its not her fault if im in situation like her i also do that so plzz understand her and support her
I have come to just love this girl!!! I love her humanness! Just great that she can be REAL> Go Irene!!!! Keep you your spirit!!!!
She knows how to handle with a rude guys. Very strong woman. I love her attitude.
As a fellow member of the RBF club, I have never seen Irene as cold or rude. She's a super intelligent, funny, nurturing, genuine, amazingly talented woman and all of that comes through quite clearly in her actions. She's human, people!! Give the lady a break.
She is my Queen
She taught me the worth of woman
I just love her
Me too. She's incredible
I love Irene personality 💖
the privilege of men being more likely safe than women is just a sad thing. not a fan of red velvet but i can feel irene's hardships. protect all female idols!
@FIGHTFANNERD9 ?? did u even watched the video luv??
edit: and oh, stfu too ^^
I think the thing I'm most annoyed with is the fact that a large part of the kpop fanbase is women and yet somehow those same girls can't understand being approached with unwanted advances and yet girls would be the first ones to bully & attack her over anything they hear. And that goes for all female idols like why in the hell are you a girl attacking another one over unverified rumors and debunked claims if they haven't harmed a single soul ever. It never makes sense and really broils down to envy of women like Irene because they know they'll never be her or experience a fraction of the attention she gets. That's why they come for Irene, its jealousy because they're upset she has what they lack. It's pathetic to be real honest.
Those girls who don't support other girls are called "pick me girls"
Society has pit women against each other.
because for centuries women have been turned against women, that there are no female friendships, women can only envy. I think there is misogyny in every culture.
"The Power of her gaze is no joke"
Periott💅
The fact that Jonghyun is the only man that always made her smile and be comfortable is really sad, especially since he is gone now. RIP Jonghyun
tbh, i really love this side of Irene.. it's inspiring, imagine how difficult it is for idols to protect themselves fr. being objectified & harrassed.. she may not b perfect, but i respect a woman like her.
i've heard so many things about irene. as i have been into red velvet for so many years now, when you are not too sure of a person you can see what they mean BUT when you understand the things she go through, it makes sense. i'm the same way with men. i've gone through a lot of experiences that have left me with odd emotions when around them, not feeling comfortable, etc. she honestly has the right to feel discomfort and annoyed with all the pressure she's put under. she's human just like us.
I'm not even reveluv, but hey I really like her, not only her visual and talents but also her personality. Irene, I'm rooting for you ^^
Creo que Irene es muy prudente y observadora, lo que le permite ver y anticiparse a muchas situaciones. Además al ser un idol, ella definitivamente se está cuidando
I am in awe of how smart, hard working, kind, and resilient most idols are. Irene is an amazing example of these traits, and more. I truly wish for her all the happiness, and safety, that she creates in this world.
I can totally relate to Irene. Being “beautiful” is not easy at all. People will act so weird and creepy around you just to get your attention and even try to be touchy.
Last year I moved to another school and had this director that just wouldn’t leave me alone. He would always compliment me, tell me how beautiful I am and I was so uncomfortable. At the end of the school year he told me “You know..when I see these beautiful girls...” and chuckled without continuing his phrase. I literally had my eyes wide open. This man is married, he has kids and really had the guts to tell me such thing. I am so disgusted when I think about it.
I literally can’t have a normal day going out because men would always come out of the blue trying to flirt with me or something. It happened to me even when I was at a cafeteria with my mom. I felt so embarrassed towards her.
So guys, please, don’t judge Irene for being cautious with men. Maybe she has her reasons and she knows damn well how it feels like to have a bunch of creeps approaching you just because you’re pretty.
@@joan8755 I hope so too, Irene is really sweet to the people she’s close to. Everyone is so quick to judge her for being “sassy”, but never look deeper and see the caring person she is.
Sadly, these kind of situations are happening left and right to almost all the women. From a very young age we have to be cautious just because there is a possibility that some male creep would make an attempt to take advantage of us. At the same time, instead of trying to control these creepy men, people have decided that women have to act, dress, walk and talk a certain way to not to "provoke" men. We live in a 21 st century but some aspects of our lives are still medieval 😐
@@kellis9346 why does everyone keep saying this about women and blah blah blah i don't get how someone can think this way but that's why we're individuals i guess Wich also means we're all different and that's why I don't like and don't get is she only acts a certain way around and to men, it goes both ways do you think i like women touching me at work no but i also don't like when men do it either so why is she allowed to judge and only treat men this way she seems perfectly fine when women do it to her as if having a certain anatomy makes it okay for one but not the other
@@ryananderson7382 *Ehem* women are ab*sed all around the world every single day, you, as a man, will never understand stuff like that. You don’t know how it feels like to be scared to go out at night. You don’t know how it feels like to be scared to walk alone because some creep might follow you. Think before you speak.
@@ryananderson7382 tell me you are ignorant without telling me you are ignorant.
I love Irene cuz she's always being real and atleast not pretending to act like something she is not . And jst cuz she's a celebrity doesn't mean she has to take all the crap that PPL give her. And as a human we all have boundaries, Tbh when she is happy or comfortable around someone she shows it and when she is not, she shows that too
This is a well put together video
Ppl r using her scandal nd saying mean things to her !! You guys should be ashamed , without having proper info , antis bashed her . End of the day , she is also a human . Respect her or atleast don't say rude things
Always staying on alert
Shut up
@@rosemyqueen7885 Why don't you
Thank you for this video
Ya she is unreal, how can someone be so beautiful :)