Microphone Preamp Comparison Test #2 - Cello

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
  • Test #2 of our A/B preamp tests. This time we were joined by Mayumi on her cello, playing ultimately a multi-track performance for Pauly J´s tune - "Maybe Sometimes". We recorded through a Chandler Limited TG2, a Chandler Limited Germanium, a Chameleon Labs 7602, a Focusrite Red 6, a Grace Design 201, a Sound Devices MP-1 and the onboard preamps on the TC Electronics Konnekt 24D and the Yamaha 02R. It was an interesting selection of preamp types and price ranges. Watch the video below to hear the differences and what we thought about each of the preamps. We welcome feedback and comments.

Komentáře • 56

  • @paulsvenson7585
    @paulsvenson7585 Před 12 lety +1

    Very well done demo. Thanks for taking the time and sharing your results.

  • @pablov1973
    @pablov1973 Před 10 lety +7

    I was immediately atracted by the Grace sound without knowing the final veridict, both Chandlers works good to me.

  • @JustinHeronMusic
    @JustinHeronMusic Před 8 lety +2

    Wow, lots of strong opinions here. Personally, I'd like to thank you for your work with this video. The preamps all had their unique coloration, and it really came though. This is one of the only videos where a Red series is compared. I just placed an order for the Red 1 500, and these videos helped me make a more informed decision. Again, thank you. Also, keep making music - don't listen to the trolls on here. You created something to the best of your ability, and that is all that matters as an artist. Keep going!

  • @JohnLRice
    @JohnLRice Před 13 lety +1

    Yeah, I wasn't expecting the end 'mix' either! :-/
    Up until that point though i was thinking beautiful test/demo, beautiful playing and beautiful Mayumi! ;-)
    Thanks for sharing!

  • @j3emt
    @j3emt Před 12 lety +4

    Both Chandlers for me on this one. I agree, they don't sound like an exact representation of the original but I love the coloration of both.

    • @shongo01
      @shongo01 Před 4 lety

      I liked the Germanium more because the transformers were personally tuned by Wade Geoke. He used an audio spectrum analyzer to locate phasing issues in the upper frequencise. They removed the phasing problems and it opens up the highs more than the TG2. It is subtle, but hearing them back-to-back it's easy to hear the variances.

  • @Magicmeatbag
    @Magicmeatbag Před 12 lety +1

    I love these kinds of vids. big ty :)

  • @skymarshallmarz5573
    @skymarshallmarz5573 Před 3 lety +3

    The Grace is superior. I will be purchasing one soon. I had an amp built by Mike G. himself before Grace Designs was born. It was superb!!

    • @christopherdunn317
      @christopherdunn317 Před 3 lety

      Yup ! i got the m 101, I'll tell you when you get this, i don't think there's a pre amp that can go to 60db without noise.You'll be blown away how clean it is.

  • @MrSNEAKFREAK96
    @MrSNEAKFREAK96 Před 2 lety

    Surprised people seem so harsh on the end mix. I thought it was awesome! Love hearing the recording in context.

  • @24frannypack
    @24frannypack Před 11 lety

    I'm really glad I stumbled upon this. I'm half Japanese and born in Japan so it was nice hearing both languages haha, but in all seriousness I am recording my own music right now and I need a war sounding pre-amp for it. REally nice upload.

  • @lamasteve6905
    @lamasteve6905 Před 2 lety +1

    Easy to fix any of those stems. Mixed into the drumming you would never know ! You could mix that song and you would never tell which was which ! On the Cello alone you might tell which was which, in a blind test on a raw file, but if the stem was worked on in the blind test you would need a scope to tell if you can ! The new tools are fantastic !

  • @paultemporal
    @paultemporal  Před 13 lety

    @doowopdiddler. We work for ourselves. Own the gear ourselves - were interested in comparing our own gear then got our geek on and made a video. Glad you enjoyed it. Seems to swing wide both ways here in computer lala land.

  • @hagakure6410
    @hagakure6410 Před 12 lety

    Nice video, guys!

  • @siriusfun
    @siriusfun Před 7 lety +1

    Focusrite RED and Chandler TG2. No surprises there.

  • @rodrigozamo
    @rodrigozamo Před 11 lety +1

    to me the Grace Design sounds the best, very balanced but with a nice bottom end to feel the body of the cello without compromising definition, others did sound a bit metallic and thin

  • @datamasked623
    @datamasked623 Před 10 lety

    That Yamaha O2R is brutal. I remember using those stupid boards when I was in school for audio back in the early 2000s. Ugh!

  • @ParcelOfRogue
    @ParcelOfRogue Před 6 lety

    Headway's "The Band" is the best for Cello on tone, warmth and convenience, at decent volume levels without feedback.

  • @johnosstreeter
    @johnosstreeter Před 13 lety

    holy bonfire! wasnt expecting the final mix to be like that! it destroyed the whole cello playing if you ask, taste is taste i guess :D but nice tests, shows you need a neutral and a colored preamp in every studio ;)

  • @kevinfrieden7929
    @kevinfrieden7929 Před rokem

    it'd be amazing if you would release one with another acoustic instrument 🙏

  • @keiran110
    @keiran110 Před 11 lety +1

    Your room and that cello sounds great. Very dry sounding room. What interface did you record through?

  • @TheProgmagog
    @TheProgmagog Před 12 lety

    The Yamaha 02R is on par with the Mackie, Behringer etc. But of those mentioned the (original) Mackie is the slightly better choice above the Yamaha too. . The Mackie Onyx version is actually quite good.

  • @dafxtone
    @dafxtone Před 3 lety +2

    Grace 1:38 TG-2 2:32 Cham 1:00 Focus 0:43 Germ 2:50 MP-1 1:56 TC 3:43 Yam 4:02

  • @gino3286
    @gino3286 Před 5 lety

    Hi thanks a lot for the very nice video. I was listening for the purest sound and in the end i liked so much better the processed sound ... i mean the one with reverb and delay added. So maybe the search for the cleanest is not so important in the end ? Regards, gino

  • @ashzombie13
    @ashzombie13 Před 12 lety

    I'm really curious to see a comparison between Grace Design m201 and Schoeps VSR 5. That would be very interesting...

  • @fcolondono
    @fcolondono Před 13 lety

    Hello congratulation this is very interesting videos thank you guys
    when you going to do a test with vocals?

  • @huss03
    @huss03 Před 9 lety +4

    Within the first two comparos these guys already lost me. The 7602 sounded way more real and dynamic. The Focusrite was very shut-down, over-controlled, dark and bland. With the 7602, you had a real cello in the room, and the way it delicately tracks the last bow to fade-out was beautiful. As is the case with so many "audio" guys, the only vocabulary they have to describe sound tends to revolve around frequency balance adjectives - bass to mid to top.
    What about dynamic contrast? What about the way a unit tracks the changes between loud and soft? What about the level to which the moment to moment harmonic complexity is homogenized as opposed to allowed to flow through?

    • @fhgoom8553
      @fhgoom8553 Před 8 lety +2

      +Huxxy great points here

    • @siriusfun
      @siriusfun Před 7 lety +1

      The dynamics of the performance were best captured by the Focusrite and Chandlers; both offering the greatest bass extension and balanced tonal response up through to the high frequencies.
      In common terms, they "breathed the best.", offering a natural sounding reproduction of the performance without any loss or hype.
      Your point about tails speaks more to her performances... which were inconsistent to say the least.

  • @jelcheson
    @jelcheson Před 11 lety

    Love the preamp shootout part of this video! The end result I found was too busy and percussion heavy, taking away considerably from the cello's organic beauty. Just an opinion.

  • @SSL4K
    @SSL4K Před 11 lety

    Guys , You should include the BUZZ Audio pre and GML too

  • @jeffrodvold3524
    @jeffrodvold3524 Před 4 lety

    Man....I must suck, cuz they all sound the same to me. Damn you comparison videos.
    -zoink

  • @richardvancleaf469
    @richardvancleaf469 Před 7 lety +2

    I really liked the lady. She's purdy.

  • @rojas911
    @rojas911 Před 12 lety +1

    VTB1 or Art Tube MP Studio V3 ??

  • @markeeledge
    @markeeledge Před 4 lety

    Nice Cello, weird music at the end fucked it up hahaha

  • @unrealmuscat
    @unrealmuscat Před 12 lety

    ahah no sens! Why trying to have a natural sound with that kind of final product?
    At least we learned a bit about that chains. Thanks!

  • @Muzix11
    @Muzix11 Před 12 lety

    Haha! yes it is!

  • @ZOOLUism
    @ZOOLUism Před 12 lety

    Was a good shoot out, other then the final production, awesome gown do you do Kung Fu , or did you watch too many chuck Norris films,? Jokes aside I think this was informative.

  • @BD-me4nk
    @BD-me4nk Před 5 lety

    Welcome to Karate Movie Soundtrack Studios

  • @Storcogato
    @Storcogato Před 13 lety

    Flea!

  • @FeelMetalMan
    @FeelMetalMan Před 11 lety +2

    Why the fuck are you guys using LOGIC!!! I'm just kidding, I use it too

  • @Groovedoove
    @Groovedoove Před 9 lety +2

    I really liked the Germanium and the beautiful cello playing, didn't like the result at all, I'm sorry... too much reverb, delay etc. Very ghastly.

  • @GingerDrums
    @GingerDrums Před 2 lety

    Mics are too close and the room is not suited to the instrument, hence the nasal sound of all the examples. You can see by the amount of splosh you put on in the end that you are really looking for a more diffuse and ambient sound, so why not go and capture one!

  • @tashows
    @tashows Před 12 lety

    I hardly hear any difference... :p

  • @nic.frasca
    @nic.frasca Před 9 lety +3

    no difference on 720p, so.. yeah waste of money for small studios

    • @siriusfun
      @siriusfun Před 7 lety

      Try 1080.

    • @mariaulfah2813
      @mariaulfah2813 Před 6 lety

      There are critically different, but I agree waste of money for small studio. 1 vintage analog mixer is better than one expensive pre.

  • @hansmuller1980
    @hansmuller1980 Před 5 lety

    to much comp in the song

  • @Rachelnymetal
    @Rachelnymetal Před 12 lety

    the end result was total trash. Why add all that crap to a live cello ? If you wanted garbage like that just play a keyboard with a cello sound. The tc and the our were flat, cheap, lifeless , garbage pre amps. I found the Chandier too grabby. The Grace Designs was light years above the rest.

  • @skakdosmer
    @skakdosmer Před 7 lety +1

    I really think this "music" is .... uninteresting, to be polite. And the cello never sounded good, probably mostly due to poor microphone placement: Right above the strings is just about the worst place!

    • @neocollective5959
      @neocollective5959 Před 7 lety +1

      Agreed...and what kind of stereo effect can you get when you place both miss 2" apart ?

  • @LAOVERDRIVE
    @LAOVERDRIVE Před 12 lety

    There is no difference between any of these....

  • @donepearce
    @donepearce Před 9 lety

    This is a worthless test. Try it again, but with recordings, and no information as to which is which. Double blind testing is the only valid protocol here. You've wasted a lot of time.