Arina Averina VS Linoy Ashram (Clubs Difficulty Analysis) | 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games (Final)

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2021
  • I analyzed Arina Averina's and Linoy Ashram's clubs routine at the Olympics finals.
    From my analysis, Arina Averina won in terms of difficulty. What do you guys think? Let me know what you think. :)
    (t.m.i) damn you IOC with your copyrights...
    #ArinaAverina #LinoyAshram #RhythmicGymnastics
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Komentáře • 294

  • @hmj8694
    @hmj8694 Před 2 lety +38

    i wouldnt say arina's routine was totally clean, but u can tell by sight that it was a bit cleaner than Linoy's . Lots of peeps are talking about Arina's small mistakes, but werent there also mistakes in Linoy's routine?

  • @sijason9551
    @sijason9551 Před 2 lety +21

    Until now I'm still sad because Arina and Dina lost at the Tokyo Olympics. I am Indonesian who admire them.
    whatever the reason, Arina and Dina are still the most enjoyable to watch in every performance

  • @rgcomets
    @rgcomets Před 2 lety +69

    It makes sense that when you review it from video, it is lower because, when you are judging you don't see the little mistakes, but when it is recorded and check, all the mistakes appear. Honestly, Arina's clubs are so underrated, SHE DID ABSOLUTLY AMAZING AT TOKYO!!!

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +2

      i know. I love her clubs routine. Bella Ciao :)

    • @Vip-COP
      @Vip-COP Před 2 lety +4

      The judges actually have in front of them a screen… and they can see in slow motion every single routine.

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +6

      @@Vip-COP but they have to judge it in real time. They only re-evaluate with the screen if there's a big difference in their scores.

    • @l.3576
      @l.3576 Před 2 lety +1

      Finally someone says it, this routine is incredible and without a doubt it was Arina's best in Tokyo 2020. She looked very energetic and beautiful.

  • @cmy1175
    @cmy1175 Před 2 lety +14

    It's a shame that Arina's score is underestimated😢 She's a very good player, too

  • @martaenne6490
    @martaenne6490 Před 2 lety +66

    I love Arina’s clubs so much! Thank you so much for the video.. I find your contents very interesting

  • @mayazaslavskaia3358
    @mayazaslavskaia3358 Před 2 lety +12

    Thank you very much for your meticulous analysis!

  • @sonsuenos
    @sonsuenos Před 2 lety +6

    love your videos and editing!!!

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety

      thank u so much! :)

    • @ilfbforever7292
      @ilfbforever7292 Před 2 lety +1

      @@crybaby-bd9xg I love your vids too!
      I have a question, why do you cut parts from the OG routines and edit parts from the last European championship, I mean why do you compare the routines from Varna and Tokyo so to speak? To see what the girls did different in Tokyo?

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety

      @@ilfbforever7292 it's because of copyright issues. It's really killing me because I had to re-edit and re-upload a couple times...

    • @ilfbforever7292
      @ilfbforever7292 Před 2 lety

      @@crybaby-bd9xg Ah I see, omygosh, I'm uninformed, sorry! 🙃🙂

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety

      @@ilfbforever7292 it's fine really. :)

  • @Gaby-qh8vg
    @Gaby-qh8vg Před 2 lety +7

    The system is designed to protect you in case of being under evaluated, under scores but not over. Here it was the main issue. Nobody over evaluation can be prevented, you make a claim about your score but you can not make about your competitor. I can’ t recall a system that prevent both situations. Thank you for the analysis, as always it is very interesting and it helps me to understand much better this sport. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🎉🎉

  • @bee4pcgoldrule.007
    @bee4pcgoldrule.007 Před 2 lety +6

    Arina has more coordinated routine to the music plus more natural grace. Now mach Linoy to The best clubs athlete Dina.

    • @johnalamariz2491
      @johnalamariz2491 Před rokem

      If not mistaken the current champion on clubs is linoy ashram, dina is only 2nd dear (Varna EC)

    • @user-kz3ux8ju3m
      @user-kz3ux8ju3m Před 2 měsíci

      королева булав теперь Линой, а не Дина. У Линой булавы самые сложные, она не только обыграла чистую Дину на ЧЕ, но и получила лучшие баллы на ОИ за них, именно благодаря булавам она стала ОЧ

  • @Elena-vc3jz3ix4k
    @Elena-vc3jz3ix4k Před 2 lety +34

    Восторгаюсь пластичностью и гармонией Дины Авериной. Её выступление восторг! 👏👏👏

  • @olgaplyatzko452
    @olgaplyatzko452 Před 2 lety +27

    Булавы Арины - это шедевр, я редко проникаюсь, но даже прослезилась на квалификации. Наконец их кто-то разобрал. Обидели в оценках не только Дину, но и Арине прям откровенно и бесстыдно занижали. Булавы Линой даже смотреть не хочется - топорно, неартистично.

    • @user-tn6se5yz2m
      @user-tn6se5yz2m Před 2 lety +4

      Вот правильно Вы написали, именно топорно выглядит упражнение Линой.

    • @user-kr3lp1qx6p
      @user-kr3lp1qx6p Před 2 lety

      ​@@user-tn6se5yz2m Линой Ашрам много прыгает, нет в движениях: легкости, этакой воздушности, она прыгает и бросает булавы. Грубовато как то. И стопы не тянет.

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +1

      Arina only 4th on tokyo. Nevermind alina hanasko is much better than her🤣

    • @olgaplyatzko452
      @olgaplyatzko452 Před 2 lety +1

      @@johanndeguzman7122 вы, я смотрю, по одному выступлению судите? Алина тоже уронила предмет, и, если бы судьи изначально не задвигали Арину, не видать бы ей бронзы, как своих ушей. Хотя, как показывают многочисленные чемпионаты, Алина - девушка сильная, но не уровня Авериных. Её медаль - случайность, да и сама спортсменка это понимает. Поэтому о ней даже не говорят. Да и... судя по тому, как вы пишете фамилию, вы и сами о ней немного слышали....

    • @user-kz3ux8ju3m
      @user-kz3ux8ju3m Před 2 měsíci

      @@olgaplyatzko452 А почему вы считаете, что Арину задвигали? На ЧМ она и того хуже баллы получила, так что на ОИ сестёр ещё по-божески оценили, спасибо русской судье.Кстати на ЧМ она тоже Горносько проиграла. Да и финалы Арина провалила, как на ЧЕ, так и на ЧМ. Считаю её переоценённой, не понимаю восхищения

  • @irenamoiseykina7724
    @irenamoiseykina7724 Před 2 lety +15

    It seems that you compare apples with pears. This is not Tokyo, this is Varna.

    • @rebecaici
      @rebecaici Před 2 lety +1

      i think they were using the varna performances as a reference to see what ashram missed in tokyo, and what points she would have been rewarded.

    • @irenamoiseykina7724
      @irenamoiseykina7724 Před 2 lety

      I can't get into their brain and tell what they meant to say. А ничего, что они generally speaking, discuss Arina INSTEAD of DINA?

    • @rebecaici
      @rebecaici Před 2 lety +1

      @@irenamoiseykina7724 im sorry, im not sure quite what you mean?

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +1

      Exctly, there are elements they did in tokyo not in varna, those cut parts

    • @irenamoiseykina7724
      @irenamoiseykina7724 Před 2 lety +1

      Why they compare Arina with Linoy? They should have being comparing Dina and Linoy.

  • @Vickielindstrander
    @Vickielindstrander Před 2 lety +5

    I think they are more wonderful than angels of heaven.

  • @amitmandel411
    @amitmandel411 Před 2 lety +20

    Pretty sure Linoy did five split leap jumps in Tokyo

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +11

      Nope. only 5 in ribbon routines. 4 in the clubs.

    • @flyerthantheg6
      @flyerthantheg6 Před 2 lety +10

      @@crybaby-bd9xg someone said in another video that 4 jumps is soo cheap but 5? 🙄🙄 ughh plus she doesn't even do them properly.

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +6

      @@flyerthantheg6 she did thats why she got gold:) stop compairing linoy to this arina"queen of ribbon knot" and only 4th pls.

    • @flyerthantheg6
      @flyerthantheg6 Před 2 lety +2

      @@johanndeguzman7122 nothing special I'm sure other gymnasts have no problem doing 5 but they're not cheap so they won't 😹🤢

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +2

      @@flyerthantheg6 hahaha linoy dont care, all i know is shes the 1st at tokyo bleh!!!!!

  • @LucienSabre
    @LucienSabre Před 2 lety +38

    Lots of people keep saying Linoy Ashram robbed Dina Averina of the gold medal because Linoy lost the ribbon during her routine, so her score should’ve been much lower. That mistake sure is undeniable, but there are other three apparatuses to take into consideration….and in all of those three routines Linoy not only had a difficulties starting point quite similar to Dina Averina’s one but above all she performed each of those routines nearly flawlessly (whereas Dina had lots of small deburrings/imperfections) and in fact got consistently higher execution scores - and that’s what got Linoy the gold at the end of the day.

    • @rg1whiteywins598
      @rg1whiteywins598 Před 2 lety +4

      Go back and look at the 2012 where Evgenia Kanaeva dropped her hoop twice.

    • @LucienSabre
      @LucienSabre Před 2 lety +5

      @@rg1whiteywins598 I know. That's exactly one of the episodes I was thinking about when writing the comment.

    • @Constantin9va
      @Constantin9va Před 2 lety +3

      Kabaeva even complained about how unfair it is that you can have one drop and then the whole routine is lost. Then they changed the code. Has Alina said anything about this result? I love RG drama, it is the MOST intense 😅😂

    • @LucienSabre
      @LucienSabre Před 2 lety +4

      @@Constantin9va No kidding. They’re dramatic af….look at Dina Averina’s reaction at getting silver, I was expecting she’d start bawling….and let’s not even mention how Dina acted when Linoy went to congratulate her - childish is the mildest and nicest term I can think of for that attitude.
      Besides…girl, Dina dear: you got a fu*king olympic medal. There are million of gymnasts who’d pay just to get the bronze one, and you’re throwing a tantrum over silver….have some fu*king respect.

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +3

      These brainless people thought its a ribbon individual final lol. Its OG my goodness. Dnt try to fool us. So sad that even mamun beleives that linoy is not deserving for gold. Shame on her. Her team mate yana drop and crawl on carpet but still got silver? Tjats too unfait to rizatdinova she deserve silver not bronze.

  • @silviainaboxbox
    @silviainaboxbox Před 2 lety +14

    I don't agree with your scoring and it seems the judges of the OG and the judges of the IFG don't agree with you too .

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +3

      Arina is the best of course shes 4th at tokyo lol.

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +1

      @Mariyan Georgiev only clematisRG comes on my mind when it comes to this matter.

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety

      @Mariyan Georgiev hahaha not too ovious. Lol

    • @silviainaboxbox
      @silviainaboxbox Před 2 lety

      @Mariyan Georgiev exactly . Who is that person giving the scores ? hahahahaha

    • @silviainaboxbox
      @silviainaboxbox Před 2 lety

      @@johanndeguzman7122 hahahahaha , LOL .

  • @juliaostowicz6501
    @juliaostowicz6501 Před 2 lety +31

    No hate or anything, as I absolutely admire every performance they do, but honestly the routines just lack style and personality. You can literally put almost any music on in the background and it will still match. Yes, the dance steps are nice, but the entire routine is supposed to match the music, not just *crazy AD, catch* Smile! *Crazy DER* *fifteen other ads and ders and bds* *dance step, finishing position!* but really nice vid, thank you

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +7

      I definitely agree with ur stance. I personally think the Code of Point in the previous cycle was the best. Artistic-wise, body difficulty-wise, and apparatus element-wise. thanks for watching! :)

    • @juliaostowicz6501
      @juliaostowicz6501 Před 2 lety

      @@crybaby-bd9xg Thanks!

    • @user-db7fw3jg9s
      @user-db7fw3jg9s Před 2 lety +4

      Totally agree. I think the problem is with score points. I remember Olympics 2000, 2004 - amazing routines which were absolutely different, and each gymnast has her own style.

  • @johanndeguzman7122
    @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +5

    Compairing 1st and 4th only? Lol why nit 1st and the broze medalist? Its like compairing son yeon jae and margarita mamun at rio, then son yeon jae won over mamun lol.

  • @cait5819
    @cait5819 Před 2 lety +1

    Is there a place to watch the whole stream of the AA finals? I can only seem to find qualifications.

    • @ilfbforever7292
      @ilfbforever7292 Před 2 lety +1

      You found the whole qualifications? Where can I find it please?

    • @user-jg3fd3rc3t
      @user-jg3fd3rc3t Před 2 lety +1

      @@ilfbforever7292 czcams.com/video/9MYr1T_7ahQ/video.html

    • @user-jg3fd3rc3t
      @user-jg3fd3rc3t Před 2 lety +1

      Its avaliable at least here in Latin America czcams.com/video/9MYr1T_7ahQ/video.html

    • @user-jg3fd3rc3t
      @user-jg3fd3rc3t Před 2 lety +1

      @@ilfbforever7292 look on that chanel is somewhere there but like 3/4 rotations

    • @ilfbforever7292
      @ilfbforever7292 Před 2 lety +1

      @@user-jg3fd3rc3t Thanks a lot for sending the link, unfortunately you are right tho, it's not available here(Europe, Austria 🇦🇹).
      After all they showed a few rotations live on TV 📺.
      I hope the Olympic channels will post it, but I doubt they will bc of the many inquiry requests breaks..

  • @giojuntak6203
    @giojuntak6203 Před 2 lety +3

    Linoy🥰😍😘

  • @ninasid7167
    @ninasid7167 Před 2 lety +1

    You are RIGHT!!! 100%!!

  • @rg1whiteywins598
    @rg1whiteywins598 Před 2 lety

    Let me please ask which one is doing gymnastics?

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety

      I'm not sure what u r asking? if r u asking which gymnastics they are doing, it's rhythmic gymnastics. If not, can u pls clarify? :)

    • @flyerthantheg6
      @flyerthantheg6 Před 2 lety +2

      Arina averina is doing gymnastic. Linoy is Trying to do gymnastic.

    • @flyerthantheg6
      @flyerthantheg6 Před 2 lety

      @Bill just saying it for what it is. 🤷‍♀️😹

    • @user-ln9pn5el5u
      @user-ln9pn5el5u Před 2 lety

      @@flyerthantheg6 👍👍👍

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety

      @@flyerthantheg6 linoy is doing inovative version of gymnastic arina the classic ballet style but she ended just 4th at tokyo😂😂😂 nonsense. Belarusian is much better than her🤣🤣🤣 they are like swan then tjey create a knot lol.

  • @sashamiki7981
    @sashamiki7981 Před 2 lety

    what does ad4 ad3 mean

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety

      AD4 refers to Apparatus Difficulty that worths 0.4 (Catch/Rebound from Large Throw)
      AD3 is worth 0.3 and the elements are large throws, large roll, throw & catch of two clubs, and transmissions.

  • @johanndeguzman7122
    @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +5

    Linoys gold performance on clubs at EC Varna 2021 beating Dina averina who got silver at clubs individula final...both good

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +6

      @Розовый пони - arina wast there on clubs final at varna bec she messed up on qualification, 2 consecutive drops on clubs hows that? You didnt watch? Linoy never beat arina? Hows her gold at tokyo while arina at 4th? Dilussive. Go ahead thats free:)

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +3

      @Розовый пони - czcams.com/video/jJz3U96v6ZE/video.html
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    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +3

      @Розовый пони - wake up lol.

    • @LotusPandaCrane
      @LotusPandaCrane Před 2 lety +3

      @Mariyan Georgiev exactly!! 😂

    • @user-ik7fm4zu1c
      @user-ik7fm4zu1c Před 2 lety

      @@johanndeguzman7122 Linoy, is it you? Praizing yourself everywhere. Your father, mother and brother here and that's all

  • @angeliastone-tolcher2386

    do arina averina and alina harnaskos ribbon

  • @nicoleiankine6486
    @nicoleiankine6486 Před 2 lety +5

    If your analyzing their Olympic Games finals clubs routine, then why is more than half the video not their OG routines???

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +3

      copyright issues.

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety

      Exactly, there are some elements for sure they din on tokyo not in Varna ( other clip)

    • @Vip-COP
      @Vip-COP Před 2 lety

      @@johanndeguzman7122 you again.??… OMG.!!! 🤦🤦🤦.
      If u don’t understand, please back off.!!!

    • @tatianasolovyov3271
      @tatianasolovyov3271 Před 2 lety

      There will be no full-fledged videos while the proceedings and clarifications are underway, and the results are challenged. The Bulgarian Federation also responded to Ms Viner.

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Vip-COP and you again also? Fake rg judge?

  • @lovergvideos
    @lovergvideos Před 2 lety +1

    0:32 not on floor
    0:33 this catch definitely is not in rotation or without visual control
    0:50 backscale pivot was not 180 degree completed (you can see it in slow motion during replay)
    1:15 steps to catch the club
    1:36 R3???
    you should be more impartial when making videos comparing two gymnasts

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety

      0:32 it was on the floor. she went down on her knee while catching the club out of sight. AD2
      0:33 This is debatable but from what I can see, her arm was stretched out and her back was bent 90 degrees when she caught the club so I would say it is fair to say it was a valid AD4.
      0:50 again, debatable. would I've like it if she held it for a lil longer? yes. But again, it seemed close to 180 degree turn to me.
      1:15 I think you are being way too harsh.
      1:36 Yes there was three rotations. maybe the cartwheel wouldn't have count because there were steps made and that's why you made a comment on that?
      Anyways, just take my analysis with a grain of salt. I'm human too so please be forgiving of my mistakes if I made any.

  • @user-sf1zm3ee5g
    @user-sf1zm3ee5g Před 2 lety

    Очень красивое исполнение!

  • @Rgjudging
    @Rgjudging Před 2 lety +4

    hi amazing video as always!!! just at 2:02 start to count while shape is at its maximum,she did 3 and a half so thats 0.9, also 2:39 no 0.1 here she already has 9 bds with higher value and you cant count more than 9 bds

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety

      Hi,
      2:02 it seemed like 4 rotations to me but now that u've mentioned it, it's clearly 3 and half.
      2:39 dang, why did I count the illusion when there was clearly 9 distinct BDs. Thanks for letting me know! :)

    • @Rgjudging
      @Rgjudging Před 2 lety

      @@crybaby-bd9xg also at 0:18 watching it in slo mo you will see that connected clubs turned once at horizontal plane so +0.1 for that:)

    • @ricardoenzpz8859
      @ricardoenzpz8859 Před 2 lety

      @@crybaby-bd9xg hey, I’m not sure but I think illusion is not a bd

  • @user-ev5hw5ws2v
    @user-ev5hw5ws2v Před 2 lety +7

    А с переводом нельзя?

  • @ilfbforever7292
    @ilfbforever7292 Před 2 lety +12

    Thanks for doing that video!
    I just can wondering again and again:how is it possible, that the only time, Linoy got higher scores than the twins (or Dina at least) was at the OG s ? Either Linoy was overscored at the Olympics or she was underscored EVERYTIME at EVERY other competion, and the latter would be very very unlikely.....

    • @deniivanova5961
      @deniivanova5961 Před 2 lety +9

      She won some gold medals in other competitions... But at the OG were the best judges, so what do you think? May be they thought they could be first forever? Even when they are not the best? If you are watching closely, you now that the bulgarian team in the group competititon were the best in many other competitions and they did not always won the gold medal because of Russia.

    • @juanmiclavijo5233
      @juanmiclavijo5233 Před 2 lety

      @@deniivanova5961 excellent ❤️. They are good, but not invencibles

    • @juanmiclavijo5233
      @juanmiclavijo5233 Před 2 lety +4

      Lies.. She got higher scores in internacional competitions in some times.
      What is the problem? Its so unfair to Linoy. 🙄

    • @ilfbforever7292
      @ilfbforever7292 Před 2 lety +2

      @@juanmiclavijo5233 I am just wondering why the only time Linoy got higher scores was at the Olympic games, that's it...

    • @ilfbforever7292
      @ilfbforever7292 Před 2 lety +2

      @@deniivanova5961 Linoy won at 2020 bc the twin weren't able to compete due to Covid 19..

  • @jamesbug2002
    @jamesbug2002 Před 2 lety +2

    Bianka Panova's routines...lovely. today's rhythmic gymnasts...mechanical and lacking the grace 80's gymnasts had

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety

      I do not have knowledge of RG back in the 80s to know it. I’m pretty sure the previous cycle was great also.

  • @user-ph2vq7jr3h
    @user-ph2vq7jr3h Před 2 lety +13

    לינויי אלופה!!❤❤❤

    • @ivanovivan1018
      @ivanovivan1018 Před 2 lety

      Один художник рисует фикалиями, очень не дурно получается... Всем учить идишшшььь.

  • @rhythmicgymnastics.mp4782
    @rhythmicgymnastics.mp4782 Před 2 lety +15

    im obsessed with your vids THEY HELP MY JUDGING SM
    anyways here are some notes for Arina hehe:
    1) i dont think the AD3 at 0:48 is valid,,, the base is high throw, but there is only one criteria (out of sight)!!! unless you can spot another one?
    2) the second ring pivot she does at 1:10 was actually 3 rotations in the olympic final, this is your missing 0.2 in her BD score!!
    3) the AD3 you scored at 1:16 is just the start of her dance steps!! otherwise, there would be 2 ADs in them and they wouldn't be 8 seconds (and therefore couldn't be counted!!) plus, there aren't enough criteria for this to count as an AD!
    4) there is NO WAY that the judges would count the cartwheel after this risk at 1:30,,, you need to have criteria 'out of sight' to have rotations during a catch counted in R, therefore, this risk should only be 0.4!
    5) same principle applies to the R at 1:33; this should only be a 0.3 R!!! particularly considering there was a clear pause during her risk as she had to adjust herself to catch in the cartwheel
    With all this in mind, I would've scored Arina a 5.4 in D1/2 (same as OG) and a 11.1 in D3/4 (1.9 less than OG!!! I assume they counted her backwards roll in her risk perhaps...). This would give her a 16.5 for D!
    and here are some notes for Linoy:
    1) as per FIG protocols, you have to have your first leg off the floor in order to have 'catch in rotation' counted in a R, and I think Linoy does actually do this at 2:43... this would make her R worth 0.7 instead of 0.5 in my opinion!
    2) 2:55... this is the one AD in Linoy's routines i always question myself!! I have no idea how she's expecting this to be paid lol
    3) The DS should be valid for Linoy! Remember you are allowed to have one non-pre acro AD in your DS; this means you should count them from 2:55 to 3:03, this is 8 seconds!
    With this in mind, I would've scored Linoy the D1/2 of 5.5 (her pivot was phenomenal in this routine!! and same as OG) and her D3/4 as 11.9. I also assume that they counted her AD4 at 2:19 as I cannot really imagine this AD with better execution of the rotation aspect. However, I also think its a bit of a sneaky one...
    Regardless, I do think Linoy deserved a higher score for her Clubs routine, but recognise that I do ultimately prefer Linoy as a gymnast and perhaps this has influenced my scores! Happy to hear any feedback as always :))

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +2

      Hi again Amy! :) It's always nice to have ur feedback.
      Arina:
      1) the throw at 0:48 is done without sight and in arabesque balance. So the two criterias are w/o vision and in BD. I believe that was a very obvious and simple AD3 to spot right away though.
      2) I would say it is 2 rotations because a rotation should be counted when the body shape is fixed. I know it doesn't show here, but I counted only 2 rotations when her back leg was fully straightened. And yeah, I had guessed that the extra 0.2 was from this pivot. :)
      3) Yeah I was very confused with this particular action because I thought she had thrown the clubs asymmetrically and in BD, that's why I counted it as AD3, and the catch (AD4) in the back(w/o sight) and rotation. I started counting the DS right after she did the throw. Now looking at it again, I should've just given the AD4 here.
      4) I did not know that the last rotation in the risk had to be caught without sight to be counted as a rotation... are you sure about this? I've never heard about this rule before.
      5) Again, I've never heard of the rule before. And yes, although there was a step, I felt she covered it well and connected the rotation with the catch nicely. But again, if that rule exists, this changes the whole conversation.
      Linoy:
      1) In order to earn the in rotation criteria in a risk, the catch has to be done without sight. Linoy caught the clubs with sight and so no, the in rotation and without sight does not count here. If she had caught it with her club like she usually does, it would've been totally out of sight and hence giving her the extra 0.3 from the risk.
      2) 2:55 I know! lol.
      3) I don't know if it is the way I edited the video, but I remember explicitly that her dance steps being 1 to 2 seconds short. I know u r allowed one AD that isn't with a pre-acrobatic element in a DS.
      2:19 I know right.
      I mean a 0.5 difference from mine and urs, I think it's fair to say we were roughly similar with our scores.
      Anyways, thanks for watching and taking the time to leave ur feedback like always. I really appreciate it. I've seen ur Instagram account and I have to say that I love what you are doing. Very talented really. :)

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +5

      @From the Press I don’t know who u r referring to as “us”, but I have to tell u, I don’t agree with ur comment.

    • @Constantin9va
      @Constantin9va Před 2 lety

      @@crybaby-bd9xg that comment from @fromthepress is gross. Also inaccurate, since the only person who looks “attractive” in that highest bun hairstyle is Kanaeva. They don’t look “ugly” of course! They are all extremely beautiful, but that is just not a flattering hairstyle and I don’t understand why the entire sport is so married to it. Is there a sport reason or is it just how you-know-who wants it?

    • @tatianasolovyov3271
      @tatianasolovyov3271 Před 2 lety

      Everything is fine, but in a swimsuit there is a very highlighted area in front of the panties. 3.34

  • @LameritaLLamay
    @LameritaLLamay Před 2 lety +8

    obvious is linoy who did very well

    • @sarahdemir776
      @sarahdemir776 Před 2 lety +3

      For you! Hahahahaha! Averinas are milllion times better

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sarahdemir776 million times? 2nd and 4th? Go ahead and fool yoylur self thats free anyway. Arina didnt manage to beat harnasko with her signature ribbon knot

    • @user-ln9pn5el5u
      @user-ln9pn5el5u Před 2 lety +1

      @@johanndeguzman7122 Ну, а Линой с золотом, со своей фирменной потерей предметов... И с деревянной акробатикой...Фантастика... 🤣🤣🤣

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety

      @@user-ln9pn5el5u cROCs lol...comfy comfy foot wear🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @deniivanova5961
    @deniivanova5961 Před 2 lety

    Actually you are not correct because you show us some other exercise from European competition in Varna.

  • @gabrielacobian9137
    @gabrielacobian9137 Před 2 lety +24

    Those who KNOW, know that Dina should have got gold; 7 out of ten said that

    • @Constantin9va
      @Constantin9va Před 2 lety +9

      False! I LOVE Dina (admittedly a bit less because of her poor sportsmanship she exhibited at the Olympics) but she didn’t deserve that gold because of house the rules are written and applied. The Olympics are always a bit different and they should have expected this. I’m very sad that she is so disappointed, it must be a very hard time for her and arisha. I send love to them💞

    • @gabrielacobian9137
      @gabrielacobian9137 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Constantin9va First, the wording of your comment tells me you do not believe in what you are saying. Second, I do not think Dina will spend sleepless nights because of ONE unfavourable comment out of HUNDREDS of favourable ones.

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +4

      World saw how unprofessional she is, bad sportmanships. well thats really insult to her that her score is not enough to beat a routine with a mistake. Lol

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gabrielacobian9137 linoy crushed the twins with her high diff score are you aware? Not the twins dina only im sory. Nevermind the other one shes only 4th. The balarusian one is much better.

  • @user-qb3cu1pf2u
    @user-qb3cu1pf2u Před 2 lety

    Once again Linoy Ashram can win the 2024 Paris Olympics

  • @udontknowme7798
    @udontknowme7798 Před 2 lety

    Do not ask someone who is not a referee in a sport time and time again, he is not an approved referee.

  • @beatricee8657
    @beatricee8657 Před 2 lety

    Milena Baldassarri vs Boryana Kaleyn ball

  • @user-sf1zm3ee5g
    @user-sf1zm3ee5g Před 2 lety

    Линой Мастер Класс! Грация!

  • @jowelmarquez2107
    @jowelmarquez2107 Před 2 lety +8

    No doubt, Arina won!

  • @ancientbarbie69
    @ancientbarbie69 Před 2 lety +2

    1:41 You forgot horizontal plane criteria

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +3

      i did include that criteria in that risk.

    • @ancientbarbie69
      @ancientbarbie69 Před 2 lety

      @@crybaby-bd9xg sorry you forgot without vision in throwing part

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +1

      @@ancientbarbie69 oh shoot, i did. how did i miss that...
      thank u for letting me know :)

  • @vaaa2902
    @vaaa2902 Před 2 lety +12

    Para mi las Averinas son las ganadoras!!!!🤷‍♀️

  • @mukeshtrivedi3819
    @mukeshtrivedi3819 Před 2 lety +16

    100% Arina

  • @Adelisraelg
    @Adelisraelg Před 2 lety +4

    Dina performs the classic, Linoy does it or die for it🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @plexoniolopez996
    @plexoniolopez996 Před 2 lety +6

    You're not doing the count well, and this is unpurpose just to validate your fanatism towards the Averina sisters. You are just counting the BD,AD but you're not considering the technique/execution... Linoy SLAYED both sisters in that field. I just can't with all this HATE towards Linoy, GET OVER IT, the Averinas LOST against Linoy. JEEZ!!!

  • @olgaszoke9241
    @olgaszoke9241 Před 2 lety +1

    Man they really robbed here

  • @MSquare20055
    @MSquare20055 Před 2 lety

    Completely visible arina got so less than she deserves and so did dina.
    It was a completely visible fixing for Linoy

  • @russianaverinyrg4293
    @russianaverinyrg4293 Před 2 lety +8

    Forever Arina !!❤️

  • @tanyns6853
    @tanyns6853 Před 2 lety +12

    Linoy deserved won, She remembered me Margarita Mamun 🥰

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +1

      On an interview, linoy said her idol aside from neta rivkin an israeli gynast, is margarita mamun, but margarita ofcse bleive that dina won at tokyo, this half bangladeshi half russian dont deserve linoys admiration. They are on the same level now.

    • @sarahdemir776
      @sarahdemir776 Před 2 lety +4

      Bwahahahaha! No she didn’t

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sarahdemir776 they are on the same level now. Linoy and that half bangladeshi margarita mamun:)

    • @johnalamariz2491
      @johnalamariz2491 Před rokem

      Mamun look like arab people not rusian. Im sorry.

  • @marquise3440
    @marquise3440 Před 2 lety +1

    И Дина и Линой красиво выступили. Но лента Линой сыграла с ней злую шутку ( так обе девочки хороши

  • @johanndeguzman7122
    @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety

    Linoy should retire after OG like bangladeshi Mamun did, she reach the peak of her career and got gold at olympics her dream, competing again is like going back to zero. Let this hungry dogs feast on gold at worlds, since they are begging for gold til now. Sad

  • @Air_dana
    @Air_dana Před měsícem

    Мне больше понравилась Линой ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @alisaburton7295
    @alisaburton7295 Před 2 lety +6

    They keep crying. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @meitals630
    @meitals630 Před 2 lety +5

    and yet, Linoy won...

  • @lanaoconnell609
    @lanaoconnell609 Před 2 lety +8

    Its not Olympic games anymore. Its a war. This explains the bias in judging. I feel sorry for athletes.

  • @johnalamariz2491
    @johnalamariz2491 Před rokem

    They cant even use their country name @ tokyo, dnt know why, now they are banned or what? For invading Ukraine😔 hope fig banned them forever. Bad

  • @andreiberdnikov9135
    @andreiberdnikov9135 Před 2 lety

    Español man

  • @user-sf1zm3ee5g
    @user-sf1zm3ee5g Před 2 lety

    Очень красивое исполнение уЛиной!

  • @leticiavarela8695
    @leticiavarela8695 Před 2 lety +2

    And the winner was the girl Averina, the best!!! ❤️

  • @Ramsesos
    @Ramsesos Před 2 lety

    Based

  • @hamzagrimeh3264
    @hamzagrimeh3264 Před 2 lety +10

    Linoy can not even do the leap and splits like Dina all she is doing is dancing on her place unlike Dina who is busy all the time with most difficult activities and very fast and clever steps Dina was really underrated unfortunately this year judges were so so so unfair

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +1

      Although I agree dina should have won, I don’t agree with what u said about linoy. As you know, more than half her DB score comes from her leaps.

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +3

      Are you serious? Her body difficulty is much higher than dina are you aware? Lol. All your comment is a big lie. Go on fool your self thats free anyway.

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes unfair for so long many gymnast like kaleyn and linoy being robbed by this dopers. They cant even use their flag and countey name

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety

      Your lier. She can do 4 consecutive j jumps russian cant😂

  • @tatianasmoliar4922
    @tatianasmoliar4922 Před 2 lety

    It was 3 penche pivots.

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety

      it was four rotations. :)

    • @tatianasmoliar4922
      @tatianasmoliar4922 Před 2 lety +1

      @@crybaby-bd9xg i counted it in slow motion it was definitely 3 rotations . And her scores qualification vs final proved it. 4 rotations on the flat foot in qualifications : 0,4+0,1 for each additional rotation - so it was 0,7 VS 3 rotations on releve 0,5+0,2 for each additional rotation -0.9 This is the only pivot in her routine and the only element that could change the BD score in the final . BD qualification was 5.3 and BD final was 5.5.

  • @cats.6677
    @cats.6677 Před 2 lety

    She is a champion🥇, but she was lucky to win, but she was still insufficient.🥈
    The champion knows that her country is clearly lagging behind in this regard.🥉

  • @batodelcastillo4802
    @batodelcastillo4802 Před 2 lety +5

    RUSSIA 🇷🇺! THATS IT

    • @johnalamariz2491
      @johnalamariz2491 Před rokem

      Google is right. Your a lier lol. They are banned too for invading what country? Pls answer. Hope FIG banned them forever lol

  • @silviainaboxbox
    @silviainaboxbox Před 2 lety +10

    To the maker of this video :
    Who are you to give the scores ? Present yourself , give your credentials as professional judge.
    Else all what you analyze is just pure CRAP ! FAKE ! No Value at all

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +7

      You don't have to be a professional judge to be learn the Code of Points. I'm not claiming that my analysis are the answer. This is just my take on the COP and the gymnasts' routines. If u aren't happy with it, u r free to leave. I mean if you can't see that, u r just hating. Anyways, who are you to tell me to present myself? It's viewers like u that makes me glad that I've kept my identity as crybaby.
      thanks for watching anyways.

    • @silviainaboxbox
      @silviainaboxbox Před 2 lety +4

      @@crybaby-bd9xg You are giving to the people the suggestion that Dina won ( according to the scoring method that only you understand )
      But actually the judges of the OG and of the IFG said the opposite.
      I asked you to present yourself as maybe you were a professional judge. I didn't ask your name , just your credentials to make a scoring.
      Now I understand you are not a professional judge , that is it .
      In that way people can decide by themselves if to believe in your analysis or not.

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +2

      @@silviainaboxbox exactly. people can decide for themselves. That was exactly my point. U keep talking about the judges and IFG but I don't think it matters here. If I truly believed that their work was accurate, I wouldn't be making this video. Would u tell an apple that it is an apple? The whole point of this video is to "question" the whole judging in the Olympics. If you think questioning something is wrong, I'm sorry, go back to 2010 because u r living in the past my friend. U don't know or u r just denying the time we are living in.

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +1

      @@silviainaboxbox And please don't tell me that my work is crap and fake. I mean u shouldn't even be saying that to anyone in general. If u have the time and energy to comment like that, use it on something positive. Why r u trying to turn my work into trash? Just because u don't agree with it, doesn't mean U have to say shit about it...
      Or at least try to have a positive conversation with me like other viewers who also don't agree with me.
      I mean I know people are different but man, how can u be this different...

    • @grseeg
      @grseeg Před 2 lety +1

      As a gymnast learning about cop is not that hard. If you want to, you can check it yourself and judge everyone you wish. And just because the author’s opinion is different from yours you cant say shit about them (or it just means that you are a rude individual who doesnt know how to respect different opinions) Educate yourself

  • @augustisthebest1606
    @augustisthebest1606 Před 2 lety +6

    Honestly you are delusional if u think the any of the averinas are better at clubs

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +2

      there is no dina here. :)

    • @augustisthebest1606
      @augustisthebest1606 Před 2 lety +2

      @@crybaby-bd9xg on lol either way point still stands

    • @crybaby-bd9xg
      @crybaby-bd9xg  Před 2 lety +2

      @@augustisthebest1606 love the edit in ur comment. "the averinas"...
      so sneaky, sneaky indeed...

    • @augustisthebest1606
      @augustisthebest1606 Před 2 lety +2

      @@crybaby-bd9xg not really hiding it you corrected me so I corrected myself

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety +2

      She forgot maybe that tha current european champion on clubs is linoy, dina is only silver. Arina didnt qualify at varna 2021 because of 2 consecutive error on her clubs exer on qualification

  • @flyerthantheg6
    @flyerthantheg6 Před 2 lety +7

    Here comes the delusional Linoy fans 🙄🙄

    • @flyerthantheg6
      @flyerthantheg6 Před 2 lety

      @Mariyan Georgiev 😂😂 we just gonna respect each other's opinion and leave it as that Mmkayy🙏?

    • @animestuff6779
      @animestuff6779 Před 2 lety +1

      And u are another russian still salty about linoy’s win, get over it and before say ‘robbed’, go remember 2014 Alina sotnikova who robbed Yuna Kim’s gold medal. I would say karma really hit Russia this year

    • @flyerthantheg6
      @flyerthantheg6 Před 2 lety +4

      @@animestuff6779 I'm not even Russian and I don't even watch figure skating soo... if you said yuna Kim was robbed then cool I guess I agree? But I do see talent when it's there though and would rather perform like arina than Linoy . That's enough for me to know that arina is better. Ask yourself...Who would you rather be? To be able to perform like Arina or Linoy? Be honest

    • @johanndeguzman7122
      @johanndeguzman7122 Před 2 lety

      Whos banned because of drugs? Cant use their flag? Ang country name? Who are they? Lol. Funniest rg ever....

    • @flyerthantheg6
      @flyerthantheg6 Před 2 lety

      @@johanndeguzman7122 ok???? And who massacred a bunch of Muslims this year? Yea totally unrelated 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @milesister1573
    @milesister1573 Před 2 lety

    Linoy Ashram is only a "temporary champion" 🤣🥇because she makes others feel a bit speculative.🤮
    First, because the Israeli players are generally not of high quality.
    Second, she dropped the ribbon but the judges still showed her favor.🤬😱

  • @justentien5452
    @justentien5452 Před 2 lety +15

    Linoy perfect champion