Reverb Goes to Eleven on this Vintage Amp
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- The Ondes Martenot was one of the very first electronic instruments that was embraced by composers of orchestral music. Looking to expand its sonic range, Maurice Martenot developed a series of amps around the instrument, from a normal speaker, to tuned strings, a resonating gong to this strange box here. Manufactured by Rehdéko, a long defunct French high-end company, it uses seven brass strings attached to the speaker cone. This creates a rather lush and surprisingly dense reverb, with no feel of the "boingyness" of usual spring reverbs. As I am a fan of unusual speakers, see "Gong Amp" I made with AudioThing (www.audiothing.net/effects/go..., I could not resist its allure.
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00:00 Unboxing
01:50 Sound Demos
05:59 Impressions and use as reverb
07:52 Do you have more information?
Let AudioThing and me know if this would be worth a plugin like Gong Amp: www.audiothing.net/effects/gong-amp/
If yes, what features would you think interesting?
First thing I thought when I saw this...totally yes ❤
I think this would make a terific new product from Audiothing!
an audiothing plugin would be amazing! maybe one of the features could be to lengthen/shorten the springs? or some damping stuff like the gong amp & some feedback options?
Tension control for each spring along with some kind of "tuning" of the springs harmonics (if It makes any sense lol)
Plugin would be cool; or even just an IR
Whenever talking through a reverb for the first time it's traditional to pretend you have been trapped in a well
thanks for 12 year old memories. 😂🍻
much like any time you speak into a fan it's obligatory to say "Luke, I am your father"
Thanks for letting me hear my Ondomo through the 'ole Rehdéko! It was very rewarding to hear it play back via the speaker designed for the instrument! :)
Thanks for taking part in the video!
I know the father and son creators of these speakers (father Weber Rehde has unfortunately passed away) and you have the small model of these reverberant speakers.. they were sold in pairs to accompany the hifi speakers in their range and give a powerful effect. concert hall. they were limited in power and reverberation length by an electronic box
Interesting! So they had use beyond the Martenot. Thank you for sharing, and maybe you could send this video to the son?
larger stereo speakers like this would be awesome. 🍻
wow imagine playing black metal through that speaker
Imagine DSBM vocals through that thing! I'd absolutely love to hear that!
@@arachnenet2244 I'd reckon Wagner Ödegård would be keen on a cab like this.
Yes! What a wild time it was. The gong, the harp, the springs. Really they were magical transformations to the simple tone world of the ondes. The fact you can now run a drum machine through this is superb. There’s so much to discover bringing these worlds together.
At first I was surprised, and then... not surprised by the fact that Hainbach is completely surrounded an insane collection of electronic audio gear and somehow doesn't have a single standard loudspeaker amplifier
I brought up the only other one I had, the hifi amp I got when I was 14. That of course did not work, and the footage was lost to out of memory camera anyway
I've built one, because I play Ondes Martenot ! If you ask people that play Ondes, they have all the answers, including the type of springs to use
+10 for the plugin
Doh, of course I’d like the plugin.
Instead of the pillow I’d propose to squeeze the tips of some patch cables between the springs at different points to get weird resonances - I love that trick with spring reverbs!
that smile at 4:00 is so pure
The 5 seconds or so of you taking the cover off is enough resample material for a whole track. That's when you know it's good.
Incredible! So glad to see that one of these beautiful speakers is in your capable hands!
Yeah lucky find! I have to experiment with micing it and using different amplifiers
@@Hainbach Of course! Looking forward to hearing and seeing more!
Your prononciation for "Ondes Martenot" was good, Hainbach. I' m French and I understand it, with your accent obvioulsy, but the "on" in "ondes", the tough part, is good.
But do we really need another reverb plugin? Of course we do! That would be an instabuy. Dear Hainbach and Carlo, please make this happen. All the best and full support!
It’s got such a gritty interesting sound... it’s got such a nice distortion and energy to the sound it’s really sick !!!! .... a plug-in of this world be so hectic!!!!
Damn I didn't know Reverb made equipment! /s ;)
I bet if you put a coincident pair of mics right in close to the speaker you could capture the reverb in stereo too. A plugin version should include a stereo option.
Wonderful speaker! An Audiothing plugin sounds very interesting.
7:07 These longer notes instantly remind me of The Residents (which of course is a good thing). Don't know if that is due to the Crumar Spirit or to the speaker or the combination, but it makes me happy. :)
Damn that outro track is a hit
Re: the springs
Grab yourself a set of suitable springs, and an appropriate mathematician, and then pair those springs to a matching speaker…
…not forgetting the frame 😆
That is one gnarly sounding spring reverb speaker there & a nice reverb sounds from the speaker!🙂🔊🙂
Springtime
That jam at the end sounded amazing!
What a lovely sound! I can only imagine what hearing it in person is like.
Sounds far more tame than expected. Very good concept for incorporating spring reverb into the speaker.
Yes Please it's own Plugin!!!!!!!!!
endlessly fun studio
Really cool!
Yes please!!!
Wow thats a really interesting thing.... And it sounds great! 😍
I feel like a capable piano manufacturer could recreate those springs.
Commenting for the plug-in. This sounds so amazing.
floored by how cool thi sspeaker is and how crisp to some sounds and reverb!!!!
I dig it!
Wild !
The post office guy probably shit his pants when hearing those eerie resonating sounds in the night.
You have such a good taste in sounds🤗🤗🤗
And playful musicality too❤❤❤I subscribe to you😊
Thank you!
ooo definitely looking forwards to an eventual plugin
I experimented with making speaker and piezo buzzer driven spring and plate resonators when I was a kid, they’re great in a feedback loop. I once scrounged a big spring similar to the ones used in this device, and the bigger springs definitely sound more interesting.
it reminds me of the spring reverb tank on my 1970's peavy bass amp
omg this thing must be pluginized. the sound is just too bizarre and good
Hello @Hainbach,
First of all, thanks for your content and its quality.
How did you make the connection with Ondes Martenot ? The Martenot "diffuseurs" (sound difusors / amp) were from a different design from what I can tell.
I own one of those spring speakers and I've read in French after some research that the Redheko speaker model you reviewed was originally specifically designed to accommodate small studio room design and, as @alainreimbolt581 wrote in his comment, in addition to a little controlling device that can adjust the reverberating time of the speaker, virtually extend room proportions, natural reverberation and stereo imaging.
All the best,
Val.
Thanks! It was sold on Reverb France as an Onde Martenot amp
That outro track - chef's kiss!
Thank you! I struggled with that one until went all in on the Spirit
Would definitely be interested in an audio thing plugin of this - fully breathing in stereo
Woooh....those 606 toms!
and ya a plugin that could sound just like that would be killer. and the voice in the well part really shows it's depth.
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Well now we just need to sit and wait until Sam figures it out. Lovely thing this speaker.
Im in love!
Einfach toll
The drums sounded amazing!! Please make an Audiothing plugin from this amp!
Run a thermin though it, I bet it would sound otherworldly, especially if you added some delay and chorus. You also need a second one for stereo lol
All my hearing should come through that speaker.
4:13 reminds me of godspeed you black emperor
5:29 Almost sounds like something off of Hosianna Mantra.
Plug-ins are great. I hope you do that. Sadly (not really), I don't use a DAW. I would be much more interested to know what the secret of the springs is and why it can't be currently reproduced for the analog world.
It's always challenging to create these types of things DIY style. I've tried and been less successful than I'd expected / hoped in the past, too. You really notice how small details about the composition of the resonating pieces really makes a big difference.
Yeah the devil is in the details so often. You can get near but to finish something like this and make it reliable to last a few decades is a long process.
🎉😂❤Küsschen für den überlangen Federhall fürs das Ondes,supergeil.Könnte man mit dem Schepperteppich für Snare gleichsetzen.mit einem Filzhebel ließe sich dieser abschalten?¿🎈🎈🎈💖🎯
The amp sounds great here and the the reverb is very "musically".
What an amazing thing! I would imagine if you wanted to get those brass springs made these days it would cost a lot or maybe I'm wrong.
Apparently it’s difficult. The Ondes community has been on it for a while
@@Hainbach Yes I imagine there are a few restorations waiting out there. Very interesting though I hope they crack it. 🙂
There is a guitar pedal called prismatic walls that uses Karpluss Strong dsp to get a similiar effect
For those without the space for an EMT machine. Going to make my own. Fun!
That Ondomo is great, the #1 instrument all airship sitting rooms require for the best steampunk experience. Sounds even better through the amp modeled after the insides of a bed.
What an apt description 😄
brb, skeletonizing a discarded mattress for some experiments
This is the only thing I would want on a digital amp modeler/simulator guitar cab or pedal. Why have a boring old Marshall stack or Fender twin IR when you could (in theory) have this?!?
Agreed, what a magical sound.
Electronic Audio Experiments Prismatic walls is the pedal version
@@PorchBass Like I need more on my GAS list ;)
I love this channel.
Interesting! So having two of these would result in a true stereo reverb...
I want to see this tech applied to a giant stage speaker
Where did you get that t shirt from? I love it!
Oh, as an engineer I’d dream of having two - just for the possibility of making stereo recordings… 😅
What's that fancy otamatone you're playing?
That is a Sonica
I wonder if sympathetic strings like on a sitar, would work.
Yes, but those would be tuned. The cool thing about this is the untuned response.
I believe you can make the springs from guitar strings. 👍
4:45 .. genuine lol.
I see the buchla but I don't see any video on it on your channel. Is there something in the work or you're just not going to release anything buchla-related? or maybe I just didn't find the video
great video as usual, btw, thanks. I especially like how drums sound through that speaker
I think you meant the Fenix? I am working on a video to that.
@@Hainbach I am not sure, I meant the one on the background at 5:18. Looks like 4 tiptop modules... 258t x 2, 230 and 207t probably?
@@SergeTarasoff Thats in my studio. You can check out some Buchla stuff on my channel or over at my IG. :)
@@seancurtispatrick ah thanks, understood. :)
Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead) plays an Ondes Martenot!
From now on I'll call it the Poltergeist Voice Effector ™.
Hainbach, since the speaker has no controls or parameters of itself, would you perhaps be willing to make a small impulse response pack? A plugin would be great but maybe this could be a nice little freebie?
The fun is in seeing how to take it further- with gong amp we added treatments and modulations that made more than the original. And we have a freebie coming very soon 😃
@@Hainbach Ooh, exciting! Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean one or the other, a plugin would definitely be great! Selfishly I just would love IRs as well, haha
03:50 ff makes me think of oldskool digidub.
Can you make some IRs? Would really like to use it
why won't any brass spring the right size work? are those a special alloy or? seems like any metal that can carry a sound wave should work...a bunch of guitar strings very close to each other might work
Apparently the Onde community has been trying to recreate it, but the springs make it difficult as they are no longer available. They are not brass but a different alloy apparently.
04:03 *Khruangbin enters chat *
7:03 such a banger, will this ever be released?
Thanks! You can get the rough version of this on my Patreon. Would need to polish it for a proper release
Johnny Greenwood vibes.
Just saw the Smile in Berlin ❤️
4:50 what is that? it's awesome!
Video next week on that!
💙
any chance of an impulse response?
Reminds me of an old electric fire before safety was a thing. Is Technotherm also a genre with many fans? ;)
It does look like an inductive heater. I was sleeping in front of one of those once, and a heater coil snapped and threw hot shards of metal on me. That was best case scenario because it woke me up swiftly, before my blanket caught fire.
@@Roikat I had something similar happen to me when a pin dropped into my rather vintage fan heater. It promptly ejected hot bright yellow sections of the coil element onto the carpet and left quite a few circular burn marks!
Bravo.......spring speaker.....what yr. .?.....the other one I heard....was self tuning.....running electrity through the cord to tune the frequency or tone.......cheers......next time check the tone and show .....
Concept probably around the 1930s, production between 1968 and 2002
This speaker is Rehdekolus.
Did the Illuminatie built this for you Hainbach?
There is no way for me to have too many reverbs. I probably have as many reverbs as I have other effects combined.. It's hard to not love reverbs. Even harder to not overuse them.
So... Its sortof like pushing the sound through a spring reverb? Weird
Excellent demo! This is so unique. I'm realizing this is so different from that. It's all physical and analog and it's actually adding to the timbre/resonance rather than creating a reverb signal. I had no idea this existed. Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
that may be a one trick pony, but man that's a good trick.
I don’t understand what is special about the springs themselves. Are they somehow tuned?
The material appears to custom made for this and not available any longer.
plugin please!!
what's that weird electric ukulele?
Sonica
@@Hainbach thanks!
Hainbach you didn’t feedbach :(
Who needs an amp when you have bubble wrap?
Plugin yes please