I've been thinking about starting up some SP HC. Any suggestions on what character to start with to get the shared stash up and running?(I'm sure I'll be dying here and there.) Getting a bit of analysis paralasysis here, boys.
I’m a relative “noob” to Diablo 2 still but I’ve played almost purely single player HC and I would personally make a holy fire Paladin to start off. You can pretty much do P8 all the way through normal and nightmare and you can just just switch to hammerdin for hell once you feel you have enough gear for it
@JustLikeYou. Thanks. I have a lot of experience with hammerdins in particular over 20+ years playing on and off, but I was thinking about the possible slog of normal prior to re-spec. I'll try the holy fire route and probably re-spec as soon as possible to find my comfort zone with hammers. Cheers.
Druids tend to be strong as hell, and a necromancers bone spear is the hardest hitting piercing spell in the game that does magic damage with virtually no immunities.
I always thought it was weird we beat up mephisto on the way, but baal runs off somewhere after act2 end and nobody seem to care, and the (base) game ends in current act 4 with diablo ded but baal still at large. It is even more obvious some parts were missing and were gonna be added later on from the cutscenes, if you don't have the act 5 (from the expension), the whole thing with marius make absolutely no sense.
So basically everything in the expansion was supposed to be in the base game but got cut for time? I'm not even mad they got more of my money because of it, just glad the game was able to be fully realized and given to us in it's most complete form.
You can think of it like they are paid a certain amount of time to develop the game and then whatever is done after that time is the game. How expansions are done is they are to convince a publisher to give you more money to develop the game more so that the experience is more fulfilling to the player and so they can resell the game essentially. The publisher thought they were getting one over on the customers, but the customers would be happy with the outcome.
Yep David Brevik mentioned this multiple times actually. It was in development before they fired blizzard north. It was going to have an Act 6, a Cleric class, and many bug fixes to LOD because LOD introduced a ton of frame bugs not in the original game. The theme of it was lightning and it's why lightning has so few unbreakable immunities. It was likely going to have the most unbreakable immunities, but the expansion never came out.
How would the act boss NOT be Baal?? So Act 1 is Andy, Act 2 Duriel -- now we've got 3 acts left, and 3 prime evils.... What would they have done with Baal in the lore if he wasn't one of the act bosses?
Possible they would split it into 6 Acts to make room. Makes some sense since Baal and Act 5 didnt come until the LOD expansion which allowed for more dev time.
This seems a bit confusing. You take a caravan from act 1 to 2 and a ship from 2 to 3. In act 3 you enter a portal after Diablo, so it makes immense sense this portal leads you to hell. Doesn't make much sense that you end up in the Pandemonium Fortress and Diablo ended up somewhere else, but it's acceptable for gaming at the time. So, question is, was the ending of act 3 also changed? I don't see how this portal could just lead you to another part of the world, that makes less sense than a portal to hell. Maybe you were supposed to go back to town and travel with Natalya, since she kinda vanishes without explanation and overall is a mostly useless character in the game (the only one if I remember corectly)?
Fun fact there is a weird ranged archer demon that used arrows as their melee attacks and act 4 was supposed to have 6 quests. Wonder why Diablo 2 Remaster didn`t expand those old ideias.
@@thickoc4539 Blizzard north did not have time to implement a lot of ideias, returning it even as optional content that can be turned off would be wise.
@@sandrothenecromancer6810 Why not change out the rest of the characters/story/setting then with other stuff that didn't make the cut? Oh yeah, because it would suck.
I really hope they aren't just done with D2R, I hope they still update it but.. if they don't, i have faith in the modding community , we already have amazing mods like remodded and randomizer, path of diablo, all that jazz. but it's more of the QOL stuff, stackables etc, a REAL end game, all that stuffs.
The loot is the end game. Don't think they will do anything else at this point considering how much work D4 needs and to be fair considering how much money they make from D4.
@@huybo02 it's not that important. It would be best if they were but they were gone before D3 and D2R was a big success anyway and they added things that the fans really enjoyed like terror zones. There were some thing the fans didn't really like, like the mosaic sin I would say, but overall it was a success.
@@MrIStillDontCare i'll not mind if they add some nice items for other characters also. Mosaic sin just replaces some hammerdin, lightjavazon or sorc...
@@huybo02 it would have been better to nerf those classic build a bit but they don't have the guts to do so. The mosaic sin is even more powerful than those and at the cost of 2 Gul runes so it's quite crazy.
Act 4 wasn't cut down. It's unfinished. It was supposed to have 6 quests like every other act. What david brevik said on it contradicts this story. Since he also said it was always determined what act 4 would be. David Brevik being the lead designer is more credible. So I can probably make sense of what happened. David Brevik knew the layout of how the game was going to look from the beginning, but I don't think the level designers did. So they were just making levels at random essentially and were told where they would be after their maps were accepted. I do often find the other developers takes to be different than what David Brevik says on some of these things, but David Brevik's wife is also there to say it's true. Since she was also on the Diablo 1 and 2 development teams. They ran out of time for Diablo 2 though, so it does make some sense that maybe their initial idea of how the game was going to look changed after they saw all of the work that was done by the end. It sounds like David Brevik was adjusting the overall layout of the game without telling anyone based on what maps were done. Keep in mind that he was the guy in charge and had full dictatorship authority to essentially do anything he wanted. He often let everyone else have a say, but after crunch time and you don't have the work done to make the game look the way you wanted it to. You have to plan out an alternative so you can finish the game. David Brevik had an outlook that some of the other members of the development team did not have. He was the one who had to meet with higher management to negotiate terms and relay the update reports to them. So what I take from it is that the other people on the team might not have seen the full picture of what was happening because some of it was in the background without their knowledge. However, if you look at the game it tells a story. You start in the rogue encampment which I assume is somewhere in central sanctuary. You go East to Lut Gholein. Then you sail north to Kurast. However, then you take a portal to act 4 and then another portal to act 5. So maybe you weren't going to talk to someone to get to the original act 4. You are going north the entire act 3, so maybe you were supposed to end up in act 4 after killing mephisto by just exiting a cave into act 4. Then find a portal into hell to end the game. There are obvious shortcuts taken in the story for developer convenience. So the game was developed around these, but these were needed due to the game being unfinished compared to their original vision.
This is exactly what I heard from interviews like 10 - 15 years ago too. Act 4 was 6 quests but they had to cut it down because they had no time left. Thats why Hadriel at the River of flames feels so random because he was supposed to have his own quest in act 4 that never made it into the game
@@FloundBlacky I did kinda wonder about Hadriel, but he didn't feel that out of place for me because of izual and tyreal. I just thought he was a guard of the chaos sanctuary to keep it from spilling out of hell or something. It would have been nice to have more story about the angels considering their role in 3. Despite it's unfinished status act 4 is by far my favorite act as well. It would have been nice to have a finished version of it. Act 4 is just considerably less fun with poison or fire builds. xD
@@YuyuHakurei oh yes there were apparently 3 quests that would tell more about the angels and hell. Act 4 feels Like hell in the best possible way, Like the First Thing you find is an area full of tormented human Souls. Then a fallen Angel and after that burning Lands of fire. Also my fire Druid and sorc never Had much fun down there in Nightmare and hell 🤣
If it needs a loot filter you need to up it to p8 for solo, p16 for 8 players. Crap confetti is dumb. Also, D2R needs a cave that goes down 99 floors and is impossible, progessing to boss packs with auras and Ubers in Duriel style fight, no townportals. Exit to return to town.
@Nah_Bohdi this sounds good maybe floor starts at lvl85 monster level then increases every few floors so you can actually grind xp for level 99 without praying for a good terror zone
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Rakanishu from a Sneeze? That’s gold! 😂
It was the birth of "Death by snu snu" :D
Probably fake but still quite hilarious.
"everything coming together kind of magically" d2 in a nutshell! great vid thanks Llama!
Phil shenk the overseer
Do a full interview with Phil Shenk please.
and receive socket reward
More of these please
Ok the rakinishu story tho
That’s a cough lol
Act 7 and 8
We need a D2R expansion
Not only that. Generally more content is what we need.
Excellent content!!
Also, please don’t tell Rakanishu the truth, he’ll be sad.
Ooh, I'm going to start sneezing more at work 👍
Let us make custom maps like warcraft 3 ,man that be fun on d2r
I've been thinking about starting up some SP HC. Any suggestions on what character to start with to get the shared stash up and running?(I'm sure I'll be dying here and there.)
Getting a bit of analysis paralasysis here, boys.
I’m a relative “noob” to Diablo 2 still but I’ve played almost purely single player HC and I would personally make a holy fire Paladin to start off. You can pretty much do P8 all the way through normal and nightmare and you can just just switch to hammerdin for hell once you feel you have enough gear for it
@JustLikeYou. Thanks. I have a lot of experience with hammerdins in particular over 20+ years playing on and off, but I was thinking about the possible slog of normal prior to re-spec.
I'll try the holy fire route and probably re-spec as soon as possible to find my comfort zone with hammers. Cheers.
Druids tend to be strong as hell, and a necromancers bone spear is the hardest hitting piercing spell in the game that does magic damage with virtually no immunities.
I always thought it was weird we beat up mephisto on the way, but baal runs off somewhere after act2 end and nobody seem to care, and the (base) game ends in current act 4 with diablo ded but baal still at large.
It is even more obvious some parts were missing and were gonna be added later on from the cutscenes, if you don't have the act 5 (from the expension), the whole thing with marius make absolutely no sense.
You heard this from Phil Shenk? Hopefully an interview is forthcoming?
So basically everything in the expansion was supposed to be in the base game but got cut for time? I'm not even mad they got more of my money because of it, just glad the game was able to be fully realized and given to us in it's most complete form.
You can think of it like they are paid a certain amount of time to develop the game and then whatever is done after that time is the game. How expansions are done is they are to convince a publisher to give you more money to develop the game more so that the experience is more fulfilling to the player and so they can resell the game essentially. The publisher thought they were getting one over on the customers, but the customers would be happy with the outcome.
Can we get a video on all the crazy bugged gear back in the day plz? Like bugged Valor, occy rings and stuff!
Do you know if they ever considered a 2nd expansion?
Yep David Brevik mentioned this multiple times actually. It was in development before they fired blizzard north. It was going to have an Act 6, a Cleric class, and many bug fixes to LOD because LOD introduced a ton of frame bugs not in the original game. The theme of it was lightning and it's why lightning has so few unbreakable immunities. It was likely going to have the most unbreakable immunities, but the expansion never came out.
great stuff!
:-)
Is it just me, or is the playback kind of glitchy? it's almost like the camera refresh rate was low
A Llama LORE video? *faints*
I was thinking that, myself.
Yea, a speed runner doing is hilarious
what happened to your camera? was it always that blurry
Probably auto focus gone wrong
I am curious what act 5 would feel, if it was avaible as content for classic, within same classic rules.
It just works
Im learnding!
How would the act boss NOT be Baal?? So Act 1 is Andy, Act 2 Duriel -- now we've got 3 acts left, and 3 prime evils.... What would they have done with Baal in the lore if he wasn't one of the act bosses?
Possible they would split it into 6 Acts to make room. Makes some sense since Baal and Act 5 didnt come until the LOD expansion which allowed for more dev time.
This seems a bit confusing.
You take a caravan from act 1 to 2 and a ship from 2 to 3.
In act 3 you enter a portal after Diablo, so it makes immense sense this portal leads you to hell. Doesn't make much sense that you end up in the Pandemonium Fortress and Diablo ended up somewhere else, but it's acceptable for gaming at the time.
So, question is, was the ending of act 3 also changed? I don't see how this portal could just lead you to another part of the world, that makes less sense than a portal to hell. Maybe you were supposed to go back to town and travel with Natalya, since she kinda vanishes without explanation and overall is a mostly useless character in the game (the only one if I remember corectly)?
Act 6 confirmed!
Fun fact there is a weird ranged archer demon that used arrows as their melee attacks and act 4 was supposed to have 6 quests. Wonder why Diablo 2 Remaster didn`t expand those old ideias.
The remaster wasn't a reboot. Thank God lol
@@thickoc4539 Blizzard north did not have time to implement a lot of ideias, returning it even as optional content that can be turned off would be wise.
@@sandrothenecromancer6810 Why not change out the rest of the characters/story/setting then with other stuff that didn't make the cut? Oh yeah, because it would suck.
@@thickoc4539 Yep diablo 3 and fort never happened.
act 4 having 3 quest and being the shortest act added a more chilling and harder vibe.. i think it became much better because of this..
I really hope they aren't just done with D2R, I hope they still update it but.. if they don't, i have faith in the modding community , we already have amazing mods like remodded and randomizer, path of diablo, all that jazz. but it's more of the QOL stuff, stackables etc, a REAL end game, all that stuffs.
The loot is the end game. Don't think they will do anything else at this point considering how much work D4 needs and to be fair considering how much money they make from D4.
D2 dev is no longer with Blizzard (now MS). Group of old dev are working on Moon Beast. Hope that they will success with it
@@huybo02 it's not that important. It would be best if they were but they were gone before D3 and D2R was a big success anyway and they added things that the fans really enjoyed like terror zones. There were some thing the fans didn't really like, like the mosaic sin I would say, but overall it was a success.
@@MrIStillDontCare i'll not mind if they add some nice items for other characters also. Mosaic sin just replaces some hammerdin, lightjavazon or sorc...
@@huybo02 it would have been better to nerf those classic build a bit but they don't have the guts to do so. The mosaic sin is even more powerful than those and at the cost of 2 Gul runes so it's quite crazy.
SNEEZEKANISHU!!!!!
Hello Mich Lemy :D
bro is pete davidson
5/5
I thought Llamas didn't like lore? Thats pretty cool though.
It's more like game dev process lore, so it's meta "lore", not the actual game lore
Act 4 wasn't cut down. It's unfinished. It was supposed to have 6 quests like every other act. What david brevik said on it contradicts this story. Since he also said it was always determined what act 4 would be. David Brevik being the lead designer is more credible. So I can probably make sense of what happened.
David Brevik knew the layout of how the game was going to look from the beginning, but I don't think the level designers did. So they were just making levels at random essentially and were told where they would be after their maps were accepted. I do often find the other developers takes to be different than what David Brevik says on some of these things, but David Brevik's wife is also there to say it's true. Since she was also on the Diablo 1 and 2 development teams.
They ran out of time for Diablo 2 though, so it does make some sense that maybe their initial idea of how the game was going to look changed after they saw all of the work that was done by the end. It sounds like David Brevik was adjusting the overall layout of the game without telling anyone based on what maps were done. Keep in mind that he was the guy in charge and had full dictatorship authority to essentially do anything he wanted. He often let everyone else have a say, but after crunch time and you don't have the work done to make the game look the way you wanted it to. You have to plan out an alternative so you can finish the game.
David Brevik had an outlook that some of the other members of the development team did not have. He was the one who had to meet with higher management to negotiate terms and relay the update reports to them. So what I take from it is that the other people on the team might not have seen the full picture of what was happening because some of it was in the background without their knowledge.
However, if you look at the game it tells a story. You start in the rogue encampment which I assume is somewhere in central sanctuary. You go East to Lut Gholein. Then you sail north to Kurast. However, then you take a portal to act 4 and then another portal to act 5. So maybe you weren't going to talk to someone to get to the original act 4. You are going north the entire act 3, so maybe you were supposed to end up in act 4 after killing mephisto by just exiting a cave into act 4. Then find a portal into hell to end the game.
There are obvious shortcuts taken in the story for developer convenience. So the game was developed around these, but these were needed due to the game being unfinished compared to their original vision.
This is exactly what I heard from interviews like 10 - 15 years ago too. Act 4 was 6 quests but they had to cut it down because they had no time left. Thats why Hadriel at the River of flames feels so random because he was supposed to have his own quest in act 4 that never made it into the game
@@FloundBlacky I did kinda wonder about Hadriel, but he didn't feel that out of place for me because of izual and tyreal. I just thought he was a guard of the chaos sanctuary to keep it from spilling out of hell or something.
It would have been nice to have more story about the angels considering their role in 3. Despite it's unfinished status act 4 is by far my favorite act as well. It would have been nice to have a finished version of it.
Act 4 is just considerably less fun with poison or fire builds. xD
@@YuyuHakurei oh yes there were apparently 3 quests that would tell more about the angels and hell. Act 4 feels Like hell in the best possible way, Like the First Thing you find is an area full of tormented human Souls. Then a fallen Angel and after that burning Lands of fire.
Also my fire Druid and sorc never Had much fun down there in Nightmare and hell 🤣
mishter lama xD
Gimmie act 6 or a loot filter
Does D2 need one tho?
@SonySteals maybe not needed for act 6 but it's up there for my wish list along with stackable runes and gems
If it needs a loot filter you need to up it to p8 for solo, p16 for 8 players. Crap confetti is dumb.
Also, D2R needs a cave that goes down 99 floors and is impossible, progessing to boss packs with auras and Ubers in Duriel style fight, no townportals. Exit to return to town.
@Nah_Bohdi this sounds good maybe floor starts at lvl85 monster level then increases every few floors so you can actually grind xp for level 99 without praying for a good terror zone
@@SonySteals Yep, Diablo 3 and forth never happened it is the torture Ba`al placed upon Marius (torture through cringe).
when I see the whole video is just talking without any relevant video - skip it
Damn still really trying to milk out that D2 lore after all these years….smh