Joker's "Killing Joke" monologue in 3D
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- From the pages of "The Killing Joke", this is an incarnation of the Joker's monologue over the PA system of the funhouse, after Batman enters to track him down.
I created all the visuals using Maya, and an editing program or two along the way.
The voice acting was performed by Pgirts ( / pgirts , who also chose the music and arranged the audio file used in the project. His rendition of the material inspired the animations I later created.
I do not in any way own or claim ownership of the Joker character or any related characters, graphic novels, etc. Joker and all related characters and elements are trademarks of and © DC Comics. This piece was done for animation practice and fan homage.
"Because I've heard it before-and it wasn't funny the first time."
-Batman
"And you know what? Incidentally, I talked to Commissioner Gordon before I came in here, and he's fine."
If you watch Gotham it kind of shows why he said that.
@@leontrotsky8676 And there was a comic where Batman get's poisoned with Joker's laugh liquid thingy, and the quote ''Why aren't you laughing?'' was said when Batman overcome the poison's effect.
@@gawee08 "i talked with him and he said that he wanted to do this by the book. So through all the despicable things you put him through. he's as sane as he ever was. So normal people dont crack. maybe its just you."
@@leontrotsky8676 The Killing Joke came way before, also fuck Gotham
"Because I've heard it before, and it wasn't funny the first time!"
+matthew rist
That is another way of saying that Batman ultimately realises he is just as cracked as the Joker, though it comes out differently. One bad day.
+matthew rist Batman had something to blame for his pain. Crime. Joker didn't. His wife died in a ridiculous accident. That's why he went crazy. His life lost all meaning.
+Kristijan Mihov we don't know that,that's what happened to him doe
+Kristijan Mihov
You nailed it!;)
Saw the killing joke, this video has more heart.
Yeah I think we are all thinking the same thing. Saw this way before the animated movie came out and the movie just was nowhere near this level.
I still like the movie, without the batgirl crap it's good, but they cut out brilliant lines like Germany's telegram polls.
Agreed.
I also like this better.
assassinsknight I like the movie too.Just not as much as I thought I would have.
"What were you trying to prove? That deep down everyone's as ugly as you?"
"You're _alone!_"
"You can't rely on anyone these days, you gotta do everything yourself. Don't we!? That's okay. I came prepared. It's a funny world that we live in. Speaking of which, you know how I got these scars?"
"No, but I know how you got *these!*" 😈
crazyman8472 Ow.... oH UH HAH HA HAH HAH HAH!
+HonorAmongScars ohhh, You just couldn't let me go could you
This was an amazing performance, honestly. That ending really stuck out to me… “Why aren’t you laughing?” It was powerful. Really conveyed emotion and was honestly better than the actual animated version.
You're right. Obviously, Mark Hamil is the GOAT, but I was let down by his performance compared to this.
The moment when the Hamill Impression is actually better than the actual Hamill Rendition.
Mark Hamill should be ASHAMED of his performance.
No Mark's Performance was good it was bad writing.
anthony smith Yeah but not the same delivery.
Anthony, this is not the same speech as in the movie. the movie version is rushed and has altered lines. Listen to them back to back, and I'm sure you will be able to tell the difference.
@@olivermoran9319 I'd blame the direction he was given.
That is the most beautiful piece of writing for a psychopathic murderer I've ever read.
***** I know, I want to get that book framed or something.
Dylan Murphy real thing is coming 2016
eiji niizuma Real thing?
***** DON'T YOU DARE LIE TO ME ABOUT THAT SHIT!!!
***** Is that a question?
When Joker ends the speech with, 'why aren't you laughing?' the expression on his face tells you everything: the joker is genuinely baffled as to how Batman can go through his 'one bad day' and not end up crazy and delusional like him. He doesn't understand how after such tragic events he can bottle up his anger and still have faith in the world - Joker wants Batman to admit his insanity and see the world as he does; one big fat joke that isn't worth fighting for.
It's not about whether the world is worth fighting for or not. It's about pain. They say there are really only two ways to respond to pain, which the two basically come down to laughter or anger. They are two sides of the same coin, dealing with that pain endlessly in their own way.
“I just wanted to bring down your grim façade, and for once see the world as I do; giggling in a corner and bleeding.”
- Joker, Arkham Asylum
@@chinesemassproduction huh, the joker and batman. Maybe they really are two sides of the same coin.
All the more when the Joker missed the best part. World War 1. It lead to everything else. And what was IT caused by? The wrong person, who was arguably part of the most pathetic organized assasination attempt ever, nursing their woes on a sandwich at some sandwich shop, at the exact place that some duke's car broke down on some random side street, just a couple meters from them. And from the end of WW1 sprung everything else. The entire modern world... was caused BY A SANDWICH.
It THAT isn't worthy of being in his speech, I don't know what is.
@@SephirothRyu It was a bit more then a sandwich but yeah that happened
When a fanmade version _gets it._ Unlike the OFFICIALLY MADE VERSION _STARRING MARK HAMILL!_
*The book and this version:* "Joker is actually slowly becoming the man he used to be during his monologue, and is actually saddened by that fact that he may be wrong."
*Movie version:* "hAvE hIm aLl wHiNy aNd fRuStRaTeD aNd sTaRt yElLiNg!'
This. This is the comment I wanted to make. I groaned and wanted the movie to end when Mark Hamill SCREAMED AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS when he ended this monologue, which is only accompanied by neutral or even melancholy panels of the Joker.
Bruce Timm lost his touch
(EDIT) Had to rewatch the scene again, Joker didn't know Gordon was alright oop, but my point is. It feels like the movie and the comic try to show Joker trying to rationalize why a man like Batman wouldn't go as crazy as he was. Even with the "evidence" presented, Batman is still trying to stop him.
He wants Batman to wake up and see what life is really like in his eyes, but Batman's too "stubborn". Its nice to see in one interpretation have him more saddened by the fact, while in the other he's more livid about it.
I felt the Joker's anger made sense. In his mind, he had it all figured out. The "truth" was staring at Batman right in the face and Batty Boy *just didn't see it.* Wouldn't you be frustrated in his situation? When someone is so close to the truth yet refuses to accept it?
@@evanhunt1863I think it was an amazing adaption of the comic book! Could’ve been better. But at least we got one at all
This is still the best version of the monologue, even better than the actual adaptation
I wholeheartedly agree! The movie was such a letdown.
Way better! It’s so smoothly paced
@@jamestolbert1856 though I still wish got to see Batman physically doing the maze,A map of the maze even.
Batman music is a nice touch.
I agree. It's much better paced.
You know what I took from this? If Batman represents the endless struggle to find meaning in life and the ability to pull yourself out from a tragedy, then Joker represents the random bad things that happen for no reason to everyone and thus their fight is about the common man trying to withstand the cruelness of reality.
Wolvenfire86 holy sht couldnt of summed it better myself
Nope. Batman represents how people can still continue doing good for the world despite being crazy, anti-social, traumatized, and depressed. The Joker represents how badly people can react to too much stress and problems.
@@akaneriyun4774 how does any of that contradict his thoughts in any way?
@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 Because he stated that Joker is the personification of the tragedies we face.
He isn't.
What he is, is much more terrifying than that.
He got the first part of his thesis right. Batman is a representation of the every day man, who toils away and continues to find meaning in this world, even in the face of cruelty.
But Joker is also the every day man. He is those of us who have been through hell, and were unable to claw our way out.
Those of us who have lost meaning in life. Who feel ignored. Who think life is pointless. Nihilism in human form.
And just like people that fall into Nihlism, he's frustrated that others can find the meaning in life, which he cannot find himself.
And he has given up on life for so long, that even if he wanted to, he wouldn't know how to pursue his happiness and meaning. So he lashes out, and instead drags more people into the pit of despair with him.
These two are the embodiment of the internal struggle we have every day to retain some sort of good in our souls.
Batman's the hero we all aspire to be. And the Joker is the monster we all know we can be.
That's the reason why this rivalry resonates with the public. Because in many ways, it is the story of ourselves.
@@Everybodyhasapryce beautifully said
See, there were these two guys in a lunatic asylum... and one night... one night they decide they don’t like living in an asylum any more. They decide they’re going to escape! So like they get up on to the roof, and there, just across the narrow gap, they see the rooftops of the town, stretching away in moon light... stretching away to freedom.
Now the first guy he jumps right across with no problem. But his friend, his friend daren't make the leap. Y'see he's afraid of falling... So then the first guy has an idea. He says "Hey! I have my flash light with me. I will shine it across the gap between the buildings. You can walk across the beam and join me." But the second guy just shakes his head. He says... he says "What do you think I am, crazy? You would turn it off when I was half way across."
That actually is pretty funny.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I always imagined Joker choking up while he was saying "why aren't you laughing" like that was the thing that really made him upset after the speech he was saying.
I remember watching this years ago and thinking "how frickin' awesome would Hamill doing the Killing Joke be?"
... Quite honestly, this video is much better than what actually occurred. Real shame.
worry not,the batman X batgirl fan fiction in the first part that only the damn creator liked it(creepy bastard she's at least 20 years younger than the bat in the movie)was totally worth rushing the killing joke part of the killing joke right?
She's actually about 5-7 younger than Batman. But it was not worth rushing the killing joke monologue.
J Turner
Not in this movie shes not,she was a little kid when gordon talk to her about the joker,and batman was already fighting crime before joker appeared,that puts batman in his 20's in the very least when Barbara was a kid
I forgot that. Either way that scene was bad.
Jigsaw joker Merriam Mark was amazing in parts,the direction they gave him was just awful,it was not his fault,I mean compare the killing joke monologue with the musical part
Never get tired of watching this, the Danny Elfman score, the monologue and the recreation of Mark Hamill's voice just sends chills
What’s the score?
@@13Fenrir czcams.com/video/mGoo5-jfzsw/video.html
@@13Fenrir the song is called "the Finale Part I". I've wanted to know ever since i was nine lol and only found out last year
@@georgelumsden4484 ngl it does hit a little bit different in this monologue
Is it me, or does the Joker looks and sound... Sad...?
Like, he genuinely doesn't understand how or why Batman can be how he is, having something so horrible happen to him, and yet manage to somehow keep such a tight lid on it that it doesn't push him over the edge. I mean, can any of us say that we could go though what the Joker or Batman went through and remain unscathed? One had his parents, who he loved very much, gunned down before his own eyes because the man mugging them felt like doing so. The other lost EVERYTHING, and became a disfigured monster right afterwards.
They're both so different, but the same, and Joker knows this even if Batman wants to deny it. He knows full well that Batman SHOULD be totally nuts, and is baffled that he isn't. Crazy recognizes crazy after all. And considering that Batman catches some of the worst villains on the streets, he knows full well how bad people can be.
The world is full of stupid, power hungry people, who'd just as quickly use a picture on a computer to justify a world war or let a war happen over something as insignificant as telegraph poles. With all of the conflict, famine, prejudice, and bigotry in the world, how else could the Joker see it all as nothing else but one big joke?
Batman doesn't have his shit so together either, he doesn't kill his adversaries he said it him self Im batman under the red good " it would be too damned easy" if he crossed that line what's to say he won't become the murderous batman like his dad was in the flashpoint paradox
It's part of what makes it fascinating! The two of them really are two halves of the same coin. Men who had their lives ruined and see the world as filled with darkness and insanity. But where one man embraces the chaos and wants to put the world out of it's misery, the other man is willing to fight for a better future by fighting the disease infesting Gotham and the rest of the world.
that was kinda the point of the strip.
@@hoopsonwheels Well yeah, even though if we are REAL for a second, if Batman did kill all the villains in the street, the actual city wouldn't be rid of it's corrupt system that essentially creates and optimizes the formation of delinquency, it would be however free of crime, as most if not all villains in Gotham are criminals who should be considered repeated convicts who in fact should be put in Federal Prison and in the electric chair for their deeds, specially when leaving them alone without any form of therapy or methods to treat them only enables them to further their own actions of destroying anything around them, the fact that they are not killed at all despite being clear threats of the state just shows you how the very concept of Batman now is full of fucking shit.
@@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead Not Batman's job to kill people. His role is to bring people to the system of justice so it can work. Not dispense justice itself.
"Because I've heard it before... and it wasn't funny the first time."
Saw the movie last night, and honestly your version was significantly better.
Alanator
Hamill is a great actor and I LOVE his Joker, however how it was how the film was *directed* that changed the entire mood for certain parts of the film, and for the worse. Like this scene, for example. In the comic, and this video, it is an emotional monologue made by Joker while Batman navigates traps. In the movie, they added *multiple* fight sequences during the speech that threw off the tone of the sequence by distracting from what Joker was saying, and screwed up Hamill's delivery because he had to sound haggard and worn out from fighting, which made it lose a ton of the emotion behind the monologue. The voice acting for the adaptation was fine, Conroy and Hamill did the best performances that they could, but it was the direction and many unnecessary changes to the pacing and tone that ultimately made the adaptation a major disappointment for me, which is a damn shame because Hamill's my favorite Joker, and this is probably the one chance that we will get during his lifetime for him to perform this comic, and it was, in my opinion, wasted.
Damn right. It's really emotional. His video made the Joker look more than just a one-dimensional character and made us feel sorry for him.
@@TheValiantBob yeah but the only good thing about the killing joke Batman movie was mark and Kevin they are the best for those characters these movie just did them dirty
Isnt it ironic that the Joker, who admits being crazy, is using what seems to be perfect logic here to basically ask himself and Batman why doesnt the latter admit being crazy himself?
Amazingly, it makes sense AND doesn't at the same time. Such is the ultimate madness.
I have to say, this was actually better done than the movie, the music especially was a great help.
And this video is 6 years old..........
And that's why Danny Elfman is a great compositor
@@annieskywalker9290 do you know which of his works was used here?
@@magoschonkers711 the finale part 1/death of the penguin from batman returns
I wish the movie had taken its time with the lines.
I completely agree. In the film when they did this scene and the memories monologue I felt they changed some of the lines in a way that they lost some of their impact and made them less memorable.
Same
I don't know, I'm watching this and I also watched the clip that came from the movie and I kind of like Hamill's rendition better. Don't get me wrong, this guy did a pretty good job, but the voice acting seems... a tad overdramatic? Maybe it's just me, but I feel like the guy voicing here is trying a bit too hard; it's like the character talking knows he's performing for an audience.
Hamill's more subtle take on these lines sounds more natural to me. It feels more like he's talking to Batman and not talking for the benefit of an imaginary audience. It's kind of like at the end where the Joker tells Batman the joke about the escapees from the asylum. I watched one video where a guy read from the comic and makes Joker sound all dramatic as he says the joke. Hamill, on the other hand, just tells the joke in the Joker voice normally. It's not punched up, but I think it works better.
I'm not knocking the guy who made this; he did a good job. It's just my subjective personal opinion.
Its the tone,
In the book Joker comes off as being sad, defeated, helpless, and is trying to find some common ground with the one person that could understand him... Batman.
The movie version Joker is just super pissed off that Batman won't admit that he's just as crazy as him.
I completely agree. There is a huge factor you must also take into account. For whatever reason, the speech was very much trimmed down in the movie. And that too plays a huge role on the impact of the speech. The truly beautiful thing about Pgrits version is that when you pull the book out and actually see how it's written, notice how certain words are in bolder letters, you can absolutely tell that when speaking these lines, he was reading straight from the book, portraying the helplessness of the message the Joker tries to send. The movie, while holding its flaws, had in its medium a very different Joker than in the novel. And I think you were right on the money when you stated it is a matter of tone. Mr. Pgrits was very much trying to capture that which Mr. Moore was trying to deliver.
Which, to me, is something truly spectacular.
Bruce Wayne once lived a very happy life, until watching his parents die in front of him caused him to slip into a life of depression and misery. For the Joker, I believed it worked the other way around.
according to this comic joker was relatively happy with his pregnant wife pursuing his dream of becoming a famous standup comedian before his "one bad day"
He also lived in a rundown apartment, he was down on his mortgage, his career as a comedian was failing, and he just lost that wife.
Jake Astl He was down on his rent. Its different. The joker quit his shitty job being a lab assistant in the killing joke cause he had dreams and aspired for better things, (having a job he liked and felt comfortable at and making it as a comedian). He has not made the best decisions for the financial situation him and his wife by putting all his eggs in one basket with the comedian job but he was willing to get his hands dirty to amend that. He wasn't continuously a happy person while he was sane, he had a chance when he had his wife, she made him happy but the thing that made him unhappy before he went insane was his financial situation and inability to provide. Doesn't mean joker was unhappy his whole life,the killing joke flash back is just his low point, but yeah he is crazy and more happier than any sane person could ever be later in life...
Jake Astl He did not own the apartment or have a mortgage, he lived in a run down apartment owned by an old woman that hates him.
jorge russo He wasn't a lab assistant. He was an engineer at Ace Chemicals that the two Red Hood Gang members chose because he knew the plant good enough to lead them to a card company next door, one they could rob.
This is especially true in the comic book universe. Every superhero and villain had one bad day that sent them on that path.
Even after the release of the official film adaptation of killing joke, this video still lives rent free in my mind as being way better
it is, Mark Hamill's delivery in the movie was a little off.
@@pforgottonsoul
Yep, poor direction ruined the film sadly. An even bigger shame given the death of Kevin Conroy.
Memories...
“MEMORY'S SO TREACHEROUS. ONE MOMENT YOU'RE LOST IN A CARNIVAL OF DELIGHTS, WITH POIGNANT CHILDHOOD AROMAS , THE FLASHING NEON OF PUBERTY, ALL THAT SENTIMENTAL CANDY-FLOSS ...
THE NEXT , IT LEADS YOU SOMEWHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO GO...
...SOMEWHERE DARK AND COLD, FILLED WITH THE DAMP, AMBIGUOUS SHAPES OF THINGS YOU'D HOPED WERE FORGOTTEN.
MEMORIES CAN BE VILE, REPULSIVE LITTLE BRUTES. LIKE CHILDREN, I SUPPOSE. HAHA.
BUT CAN WE LIVE WITHOUT THEM? MEMORIES ARE WHAT OUR REASON IS BASED UPON. IF WE CAN'T FACE THEM, WE DENY REASON ITSELF!
ALTHOUGH, WHY NOT? WE AREN'T CONTRACTUALLY TIED DOWN TO RATIONALITY!
THERE IS NO SANITY CLAUSE!
SO WHEN YOU FIND YOURSELF LOCKED ONTO AN UNPLEASANT TRAIN OF THOUGHT, HEADING FOR THE PLACES IN YOUR PAST WHERE THE SCREAMING IS UNBEARABLE, REMEMBER THERE'S ALWAYS MADNESS.
MADNESS IS THE EMERGENCY EXIT...
YOU CAN JUST STEP OUTSIDE, AND CLOSE THE DOOR ON ALL THOSE DREADFUL THINGS THAT HAPPENED. YOU CAN LOCK THEM AWAY...
FOREVER.”
I actually read this with Troy Baker's voice
You know what'd be perfect?
If just before it fades to black, Batman's shadow appears behind Joker.
That would be good.
Thanks!@@thephantomoftheparadise5666
Holy crap, this gave me chills. This is what I'd envisioned when they announced the film adaptation of the Killing Joke. It could've been so great. :*(
nilakmusic+ Same here, it had so much potential.
"Because I've heard it before. And it wasn't funny the first time."
R.I.P. Kevin Conroy
Better than the animated movie.
i agree
Yeah, the movie took the last part and made it more action-packed than emotional.
This scene especially... is much better done.
Which shouldn't have been done.
This video took its time the other one feels rushed
I saw this video as a teenager and now as an adult it holds up so well. Especially the ending where the Joker asks, "Why aren't you laughing?" Seriously, it's meant to be sad while the movie adaptation just has him be angry. This video feels way more powerful than the actual movie adaptation.
Teen and adult are basically the same
Also I noticed that too he was way more aggressive in the movie
Mark Hamill said he'd be the Joker one more time if someone did The Killing Joke animated movie. SOMEONE GET ON THAT ASAP!!!
Jeannie I think it's too short of a story for a full length animated film.
Rory Baker Then they can make it a straight to DVD animated short.
Rory Baker They could probably stretch it out to 90 minutes.
ruvelf There was a fan-made motion comic version (you can find it on CZcams, I recommend it) that lasted for about an hour, so I'm positive they could stretch it to at least the typical DC animated movie run time of about 75 minutes.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
The part at 1:18 is the best, IMO. The way his voice goes softer for a little bit, the soft piano tunes, even his laughter at the "multiple choice" joke...for a moment, you actually feel sorry for the man he might've been. And the laugh sounds forced. Not in a bad way, but like _he's_ forcing it. Like maybe he really _does_ remember what happened to him...he just doesn't _want_ to, so he runs with the multiple choice past to get away from it, so to speak.
1:19-1:34 damn this shit hit hard... the way he delivers the line, the expression on Joker’s face, all paired with Danny Elfman’s beautiful score, it feels so meant to be. It’s beautiful, I love it. You can truly see how lost the Joker really is. He wants to remember who he was but he can’t. He’s too far gone.
I will never be able to put into words that immense disappointment I have that after waiting so many years for a proper killing joke movie, we finally got one and this video is still the superior killing joke video. This speaks not only to the poor quality of the film, but also to how truly well done this video truly is.
Joker looks sad because inside him- a thing he shoves down and buries- is because Batman is crazy. He sees that- but Batman isn’t lashing out. He doesn’t hurt people. He had a bad day as well only he came back crazy but still willing to see good in the world and- he didn’t.
Joker allowed the world to reshape him into a monster and hurts other people. He lost himself. And the idea that there was once a chance- he knows that it’s long gone. After all he’s done- he knows that the person he once was, good or otherwise, has no chance in the world anymore.
It’s been five years now since the film version came out and I still find myself coming back to this video rather than the film. As far as I’m concerned Mark Hamill is THE defining Joker performer and he did his best in the movie, but this take I feel is way more accurate to the mood Joker was meant to portray in this scene, in my opinion anyway. There is a sadness I read in all of his actions throughout this story. It’s almost his last stand if you will. This is his Hail Mary to try and get batman to finally get the joke or die trying. Him rejecting Batman’s offer is final moment of total lucidity. He knows what Batman is offering him and he knows that while taking him up on his offer for help is the right thing to do, he’s too far gone and just too broken to ever be set right. And in that moment there’s nothing funny about it anymore.
In comic right after this great act Batman comes along and Brian Bolland's art really tells that he is not being nice. He is there to hurt Joker - not just subdue him so authorities can handle him, but to break him. To make him suffer. Because Joker has stepped further than he has ever before so he is doing it as well.
You know, it always pisses me off when people say something like "They both had a bad day, but Batman came out better for it!" or, in Batman's words, "Maybe it's just you!", implying there was something wrong with the Joker to begin with.
They both had a bad day, yes. But Bruce Wayne had something he could return to - the mansion, Alfred and more money than he knew what to do with at this point. Granted, neither of these things could bring back his parents, but they were still there to anchor him (especially Alfred).
The Joker? Lost everything. His appartment, wife and unborn child? Gone, thanks to a faulty household appliance. He then is strongarmed into a crime that, to him, had no meaning or purpose anymore. He is attacked by Batman, dropped into the chemicals and then loses about the only thing he has left - his looks.
When your life goes from barely there to completely wiped out in a single day due to a whole SERIES of events that, while independent from another, work together in seemingly perfect harmony to ruin you, it is completely understandable - hell, almost inevitable - if you snap the way Joker did.
Batman has no right talking down to Joker when Batman fell into a safety net while Joker fell into a bottomless pit of despair from which there is no escape.
As for the joke at the end: both men are insane. Man #1 for coming up with the flashlight plan in the first place, believing that Man #2 can actually walk on the beam and Man #2 for believing Man #1's plan will work (although he doesn't go through with it in the end due to not trusting Man #1 himself).
To me, the sense behind the joke is: Batman offers Joker help (the flashlight), but it is a false offer - like one can't walk on light, Batman's offer of help is flawed, for the Joker's lunacy really might be uncurable. Deep down, Joker knows this and therefore has no other choice than to reject Bat's offer.
Also, the downright stupid idea with the flashlight beam symbolizes Batman's own lunacy - he has deluded himself into thinking that the Joker CAN be cured and rehabilitated.
+Gary Ohnsorg (Chosokabe007) ONE WAS A MAN THE OTHER A CHILD
+eiji niizuma - The problem with that reasoning is a child does have a more fragile state of mind but even broken at a young age something then can be done to help. Perhaps a full recovery is not likely, but as shown, he doesn't become all that bad. He managed to grow up with a some semblance of a moral compass.
For an adult like the Joker, an adult with a fully developed state of mind and a strong sense of what is and what should be, it's harder to break but even harder to fix. And it broke. What didn't help was he then had nothing nor anyone to help him recover, so he did it on his own.
Tyraim unpleasant memories from childhood affect us more then unpleasant memories generated in adult life.Unfortunately,negative memories from childhood do not fade away; instead theyre repressed since they arent valued.
Memories that are negatively valued can lead to personality disturbance,because such memories are combined with anxiety.The associated anxiety is usually kept under control by ensuring the memory is repressed and relegated to the subconscious mind.In order to remove the causes of personality disturbance these unpleasant subconscious memories have to be brought into full consciousness.
+Gary Ohnsorg (Chosokabe007) The problem with that is that it assumes that the flashbacks in the Killing Joke were the truth. Yes, it seems like Joker is remembering them, but he himself admitted "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another." He could've been anyone before he became this.
Batman's definitely insane, yes, but Joker's had more than enough chances to stop killing people. I'm not saying he can just decide to become sane, but as he demonstrates here, he does understand that what he's doing is wrong. He just doesn't care. Batman doesn't just casually murder every thug he comes across to take out his rage over the man who murdered his parents.
Danny Butler
You know, sometimes I think that Joker was driven so batshit insane by whatever happened to him that he became like Deadpool - he knows he's only a cartoon character and deals with it in his own twisted way. After all, why have respect for life when you know that the people you kill aren't real anyway? Why even pretend to be sane with that kind of knowledge? If Joker really knows that, then his approach is the only sane one and Batman's in the wrong.
Something worth thinking about.
This video has more views than the official reading. Let that sink in.
Yeah the reading has 64k views way less
I believe all of Mark Hamill's performance as Joker in the film was great, all except for the "One Bad Day" monologue, the script didn’t do him any favours.
Its better than the animated batman killing joke. Get hamill to do the voice and this deserves an oscar. Then again this guy is close to hamill. Saw this YEARS AGO. Phenomenal
Two men experience the worst days of their life. One wants the entire world to feel his pain. The other works to make sure no one else has to go through it.
They say that insane people usually don't know how to define crazy. So if joker recognizes that he's crazy and what crazy is.....then is the joker truly sane and batman the crazy one?
TheJokesOnYouProductions I always felt that was kind of the idea and what made the chemistry between the two so good. That's why they set up joker and batman the way they did so different yet so similar, one bad day was all it took destroy what their lives were the only difference is how they handled it.
Sanity is relative and all a matter of perspective. Everyone sees Joker as insane, but really he's supersane. He doesn't see in absolutes or extremes.
But in relation to Batman, both of them had a "bad day" that drove them to lose their humanity. But the difference is Batman fights for something meaningful and the anchor to his humanity is his code
TheJokesOnYouProductions you have to be crazy to know that your crazy but its the crazy people that don't know they're crazy isn't that crazy?
Carter Revell I know YOU'RE crazy :P
I love the understanding between bats and Joker at the end of the killing joke. I think it's an acknowledgement by Batman that they are both crazy. They each took separate roads on their respective bad days. However what they both are doing is equally mad. That's what I take from it anyways
You got it, right.
Now that I look at it, I believe Batman and Joker were once the same. Perhaps Joker doesn't want to remember his past is because his whole life, he felt as miserable and confused just as Bruce Wayne did. Before they became what they are now, they walked the same path. But then they reached a fork in the road, and each took a different path. Joker decided to let go of his sad feelings...along with his sanity. But Batman couldn't let go on what happened to his parents and decided to do something about it.
that was The "Deal"
Look up 'The Killing Joke' in its full form and they sort of hint to Jokers' past and what 'COULD' have driven him off the deep end. The death of his girlfriend and their unborn child. He also let go of a good job at the chemical plant that would later be the same place that bleached his hair green and skin white; but anyways, he let that job go to attempt his dreams of being a comedian. And no one thought he was funny and the lack of a steady job had him and his pregnant girlfriend living in a hell hole of an apartment on the verge of eviction before her untimely death... so it was like life kept dealing him shitty blow after shitty blow. And when batman "shoved" him into the chemicals, as he remembers it, that was just the last straw and his mind snapped... I'm sure the chemicals helped, but then again, maybe all they did was disfigure him and the madness was inside him all along.
And even these events aren't fully clear, Joker says it best that 'sometimes he remembers things one way, sometimes another... if he has to have a past, he prefers his to be multiple choice' so it isn't set in stone that things even played out that way at all. That is kind of the horrifying beauty of the character, no one fully knows what happened to him to make him this way.
I personally don't think Bruce and The Joker are so much alike as just polar opposites, both victims of their lot in life. Where Bruce was well off and set to inherit the world, so to speak Joker was at the very bottom of the barrel. Then tragedy struck them both and kind of put them on the same playing field, they both had lost whatever it was that was most important to them... and that is when the fork in the road took place. Where Batman thought 'I never want the world to suffer like this' Joker figured 'Fuck it, life is full of monsters and evil and wickedness and in the end we lose what we try most to hold onto anyways... so why fight it? If anything, we should encourage anarchy and destruction and chaos because... well, because if we are going to lose it all anyways; why hold on in the first place?'. Where Batman seen the world as a project worth fixing, Joker seen fixing the world as being the biggest joke of all.
Batman and Joker are just two men battling out life philosophies on a grand scale with massive body counts. Sometimes innocent pawns like Harvey Dent get involved and prove Joker right... sometimes survivors like Commissioner Gordon and his daughter Barbara endure what Joker throws at them and prove Batman right.
Joe Grace Enough reason to both hate and love the Joker. I mean, it's just so hard to pin down what made the Joker what he is. A fitting description to the Clown Prince of Crime. An honest wild card.
Now that you mention it that explains why Martha and Thomas Wayne chose different paths in the alternate timeline.
Batmans main rogue gallery are all reflections of himself. Penguin = Bruce Wayne using his business power for crime. Two-Face = Batman killing people. Catwoman = Batman stealing. Ra's Al Ghul = Batman taking over the world. Joker = Batman on a homicidal scale...they are all Bruce/Batman which is why they work...IMO
This Monologue just proves that The Joker is one of the greatest if not the Greatest comic book character ever created. He's so interesting the thought that Even He doesn't know what happened to him makes him just that more better. Because it makes you think wtf happened to him? what drove him on the path to becoming a monster? That and the fact that joker yes is a monster but you almost at times feel bad for him,because he is just so broken down. The fact that he doesn't have a real origin makes him even scarier and it's because we don't know and we fear what we don't understand. And in this monologue you start to question if he really is crazy because you start to think,Is he right about al this? And that's why to me the joker is the greatest comic book character ever created
he is super sane
I'm a boss yep
couldn't have said it better myself
I'm a boss can you save comments to your phone
Slime and insanity is in surface,but dead and sanely inside.....
The true horror of life is growing up to see that the joker has some good points.
Coming next year is the animated version of The Killing Joke that we have all been waiting for
Yep. We all know. Hype.
Taj Holmes YAY.
But hype can lead to disappointment. What if everyone is disappointed?
+JW_Gojifan it'll lead to a bad day lol
+The Mister it takes just one bad day before you take a axe and murder several people working for dc dressed as the joker
Almost 6 years and I still love this animation
I love the Owlman's reaction to the realization of meaninglessness of everything. "It's not funny, but it's also not not funny". Instead of becoming just like Joker and going hysterical about it or Batman with his beliefs in good and better way to the end, Owlman has decided to simply put the entire existence out of its misery, himself included.
From how it sounds, Joker is jealous of Batman. Jealous that the caped crusader suffered a similar tragedy he did, only to have his sanity in tact while the other went so mad and twisted inside.
To have a serious look on his face one more time, to have a mind like he did before that one bad day, why can't Joker have that? "...Why aren't you laughing?"
AGREED!
"Because I've heard it all before. And it wasn't funny the first time."
I want to hear Kevin Conroy say that line.
You got your wish :)
He did
This was better than the movie
Batman: “Because I’ve heard it before. And it wasn’t funny the first time.
Incidentally, I spoke to Commissioner Gordon before I came in here. He’s fine. Despite all your sick, vicious little games, he’s as sane as he ever was.
So maybe ordinary people don’t always crack…
…maybe there isn’t any need to crawl under a rock with all the other slimy things when trouble hits…
…maybe it was just you, all the time.”
This moment was not done justice in the animated film, here this 3D render perfectly captures the emotion of the scene
It's funny because when they made the movie version their excuse for the Batgirl-half of it was to make it long enough for a movie, yet they went and cut down crucial dialogue from the actual novel that made it gripping. I'd say the only change they did right was having Joker falling into the chemicals instead of jumping to escape Batman, the rest was a wasted visual opportunity when compared to this video.
*"There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us, you blinked."* ~ Batman, Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths Quote
Batman: "*Crashes through one of the mirrors* Because I heard it before, and it wasn't funny the first time."
10 years and the animation still holds up for being an internet video.
Honestly, I think the creepiest part is how serious the joker sounds in this. The facial expressions, the delievery, the somber tone, the music.. it just all... *Chefs kiss*
I feel bad for the joker. He is insane but what he says is right
do you know how he went insane? would make you feel like 3 times worse for him lol.
ScaryGothicGamers Girlfriend killed by the mob, maybe? :P
Cameron Fox His pregnant wife died in an accident I think.
Yeah, thats what it says, but I'm not sure i believe that.
alfie hagan His girlfriend, and unborn infant were killed by a short in a faulty bottle warmer . . . The Joker has my sympathy. :/
I love this animation. The way he starts drifting off and is trying to remember his life. Then the very end where he goes from smiling, then it turns to anger, then to sadness. It makes you feel so bad for him.
As it should be;)
This animated scene inspired me to do this monologue at last year's talent show. IMO probably not Oscar worthy but the crowd still enjoyed it. Thank you Joker for saying those words that I failed to get the rights to use! XD
He has a point.
I love how you were able to animate his facial expression to fit with the tone of his dialogue, especially when he recalls to his messed up past and never knowing what actually happened, then he goes back to laughing it off.
Jesus, those faces on the walls are horrifying... especially the one that was focused on the most. I assume they were the author's face photoshopped?
This has and does everything the animated movie hasn't and doesn't : it takes its time, it has personality, and it's not Mark Hamill doing something he clearly didn't want to do. It's not forced, it's passionate. I can't believe they missed The Killing Joke. It's such a great comic book, that was literally unmissable if they had put at least a little bit of heart into it.
"Everything woke turns to sh*t." -Donald Trump
That's what happens when you hire people for no other reason than to check off a "diversity quota" tick box. Genuinely talented people get passed over for the position because they had the "wrong" skin color or gender.
This video will always be the best version of the killing joke
Killing Joke was good, but I was disappointed they didn’t portray this sequence in this manner. They just put in the dialogue and sped through it. This part is supposed to be a slow build up and gives more insight what’s going on inside Joker’s head. Unlike how he usually is Joker is letting go of his Joker persona and is talking in a tone that is mixture of sadness and slight frustration not smiling or cracking any jokes. The concept that Joker is breaking down from his life problems, but just can’t understand why Bruce can’t just admit he’s no different from him and embrace his insanity And just be my friend hence why he says sadly “Why aren’t you laughing?.....” this video did a better job at capturing this iconic comic moment.
Batman looks at Joker and sees the opposite of everything he is and stands for. Joker looks at Batman and sees someone who is exactly the same, but won't admit it for some reason.
The way he goes from smug and contemptuous to quiet and introspective is so beautifully directed and highlighted by the music. That ending where he reaches the hall of mirrors, looks into his own eyes, and wonders how anyone can see the world as anything other than a joke, especially someone who went through what he did.
There's so much conveyed there.
"I thought that, after what happened to me, the only thing that made sense was to go mad... but you didn't... so why did I?"
It makes Joker snap out of it, just for a second, and look at himself. That moment where he asks "Why aren't you laughing...?"...
He isn't the Joker anymore.
For just one second, he's Jack again, and he looks at himself, and he sees what he has become, and the shock of it is conveyed in the eyes and voice flawlessly.
Its one of the best piece of Batman media I've ever seen.
Something is so wrong when a fan is able to do this speech better than Mark Hamil.
Shitty voice direction was the problem.
Director/Producer(s)/Writer(s) wanted their version of the Killing Joke. That’s why there’s the weird Barbra/Bruce love story that’s dropped when it actually becomes the Killing Joke.
Its amazing how well this has aged even with the movie!
Mark Hamil better do this in 2016
EvilSCIENTIST confirmed hes recorded his vocal track for the movie
eiji niizuma Please give the source !!!!!
EvilSCIENTIST Thanks! If it is true I am so excited
JC Moran its true, you can look up other sources easily, whats not confirmed is Kevin Conroy
+EvilSCIENTIST I hope they get kevin Conroy in the movie but he tweeted recently that he was " working on a project for wb" so maybe he is gonna be in the killing joke movie as batman
This version of the monologue actually made me tear up
I remember watching this years ago. It's what I wanted the Killing Joke movie to be.
His words translate very well with the Joker movie.
The killing joke movie made me feel sad for the joker I honestly felt for him but this...this really makes him look so human like there is a sad humanity still trying to break out and he honestly feels and sounds so confused and heartbroken
For real i saw this way before the movie came out, and remembering this all the way up to release had my expectations through the roof but for some reason this was alot better than the official, the movies monologue felt rushed and it really damaged it, i know the person doing the voice was kinda going for a Mark Hamill joker, its kinda funny that this one did it better,
I hope Killing Joke and knightfall get's animated movie soon, they were two best Batman comic books I've ever read
Killing Joke is possible but im not so sure about Knightfall, seeing as it was one of the main influences and arcs of The Dark Knight Rises.
Personally, I want Battle for The Cowl to be animated.
I'm personally up for The Long Halloween, Court of Owls, or The Black Mirror after TKJ gets animated.
Death in the Family and Death of the Family would be my choices
Wish they thought of that before mark hamill retired
By my perspective voicing killing joke is ,is sing piece of mark hamill's career. I'll admit that Troy baker's good, but he's not better. Especially when it comes to doing a comparison
1:34 this part gets me Like his persona is his coping mechanism, and I can see his sadness, behind his smile
A perfect look into the mind of the Joker. This graphic novel needs an animated adaptation like The Dark Knight Returns.
You'll come to regret that wish sooner than you think.
This is perfect. I can't stand J. being portrayed as a straight psychotic maniac. The more sides he has, the more confusing he gets - and that is the point of Joker in a way - you can relate, but never quite get him.
They should have cut out the unnecessary sex and extended this glorious scene instead.
I honestly think this is even better than the actual Mark Hamill delivery. And that's REALLY saying something. Mass props.
I wish the movie had a similar scene to this. It gave the original comic and the character so much soul.
This has so much heart man. But I still loved the killing joke movie
The joker character written by Allen Moore was so interesting. I loved it. Good job!
MikeyTheWolfman yup yet whenever hes asked about the book he shrugs it off as nothing while everyone else considers the book the mona lisa of batman comics
yeah... Alan Moore is one of those special cases where i love the art but not the artist.
MikeyTheWolfman this monologue is reminiscent of watchmen for a reason
Many people have worse days than batman and joker comebined
But that doesn't mean we should turn evil .Be different and follow God
Personally this would have been more impactful if Batman for the first time show no fear or any punches, kicks, and brutalities on the Joker but rather walks up to him and calmly says “because I heard it before… and it wasn’t even funny the first time” and then the rest of ending like the comic happens
Edit: Looking back at it and comparing it to the comics I like more on how it shows lesser stuff Batman’s side of things cause you know the same old chases and what he does and more on Joker’s side of things and his wrote on quote “breakdown” on questioning if you can really find meaning even after experiencing so much tragedy
Just wanted to say this was uploaded just over six years ago, and still, it's leaps and bounds above the new killing joke film, like the actual entire film... your 2 minute and 40 second animation, is better by far!
Warner Bros. Animation has to make an animated film of ''The Killing Joke''.This video alone is the very proof of how grand it would be.
wouldn't it be way too dark for an animated movie?
The Rockingbird . Not really. A lot of the recent WB animated films have a truly dark tone. Batman: under the Red Hood, Year One, the Dark Knight returns, Son of Batman, are good examples of that dark tone. The one Batman comic that would be way too dark would be Death of the Family. Don't reed it if you can't take more than The Killing Joke.
That would be cool, also, if that happens, we get to see Mark Hamil return to the Joker, he said he would be joker again if this happened.
The Rockingbird . Well they did the red hood arc so I'm pretty sure DC'll go as dark as they need to if the fans demand it.
***** DC has some of the darkest comic books. Death of the family shocked me more than The killing Joke. If DC makes DOTF we're in for the darkest Batman story EVER!
Both Batman and Joker are nihilists, through their pain and both DID see the miserable meaninglessness in the world, the difference is one saw it and laughed and the other was angryOne laughed and didn't care about anything other than keeping the joke going to keep laughingThe other want to change that, used his anger to try and bring meaning into meaninglessnessone lives to bring pain, the other to run from it
you know what we need? A universe where Joker is seen as the hero and Batman is the villian. Where Joker is the exact same as he is now, just with Batman's one rule. Where Batman tries to make Joker see how serious and grim the world is. Where Joker's only goal is to make Batman smile.
Peter Rojahn hello clone
Hmm... We have semi sortas that if combined, could create that. There's a universe already where jokers a good guy and "owlman" is the bad guy. And we have a more famous one where Bruce was killed as a kid and his mother became joker as his father became batman
Ryan Fink i know about the one were bruces mom is the joker and his dad is the batman
+Peter Rojahn
Crisis on Two Earths had a Joker like that. He was the Jester.
Levon Gevorgyan the trickster I think he's called
Came back to watch this video after watching The Killing Joke on Blu-Ray. I don’t think the movie is that bad, but God, is this ten years old video still better in it’s delivery. I watched this video for the first time back when I was thirteen and had just read The Killing Joke: Deluxe Edition, and I was just stunned about how well this video adapted that part of the comic. Ever since then, I always turn this video on for the part whenever I read the comic.
I almost feel like the "Why aren't you laughing?" Line was said to himself.
How it is possible that a fan made production based on a recording better than an official movie featuring experienced animators, voice actors and composers?
If someone referring to the Beam in the joke as if they were discussing a Beam of light,they made a mistake. It was the discussion of a Beam as in a support beam between two buildings. This is meant to be referring to how much the choice to recover and cross between the two buildings (one being madness and the other being sanity). Batman makes the walk blindly but makes it through and tries to help the people still on the other side, specifically his Rogue's Gallery. Joker however doesn't believe that he could ever truly recover or believe anyone would ever help him to recover. Hence the man's refusal to cross because he doesn't believe he will make it across. So the conflict isn't between two madmen of their types of madness, but rather between optimism and cynicism, and a cynic's attempts to drag someone to his level .
Beautiful. I love it when writers (in this case Alan Moore) REALLY get into their story. And props to you for the animation and Pgirts for the voice acting.
I wish it ended with Batman saying: "Because I heard it before." Joker whirling around as Batman finished with his lines starting with: "And it wasn't funny the first time."
One of my favorite videos on this website. Been the case for many years. Truly a masterpiece.
For a fan made video this is absolutely fantastic and not to mention your Mark Hamill Joker impression is AMAZING