30. John Knox and a New Vision for Scotland (part 3)
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- When John Knox returned to Scotland in 1559, he was quickly challenged by Mary Queen of Scots, who returned soon thereafter from twelve years in France. Their relationship defined the entire controversy in Scotland, monarch against preacher, Catholic against Protestant, political against moral authority. In the end, Mary was her own undoing however, and by the time of his own death in 1572, the Scottish Reformation was well underway toward a reformulation of religious and political principles that would eventually become central to the American experiment of constitutional governance.
I am so addicted to these lectures.... I have listened to 11 in 3 days, but the day is still young..... I can easily fit in 3 or 4 more.
You deserve a medal! (...or maybe, a sympathy card :)
You have a true gift with teaching i find myself addicted to your videos, thank you for making these!
...and thank you for your kind feedback!
This is a great grandfather of mine. Love to learn about him
Awesome trio of lectures on John Knox. I listened to all three in one evening. Now I can go back to you lectures on the Presbyterian Church in America. You have the gift of making history fun and exciting. (Of course, it helps to like history anyway...) but your lectures are especially interesting with the personal stories and the great quotes from historians and biographers. And your sense of humor, of course!
Thank you!
Thank you for this series and all your Sunday school lessons. I’ve shared things I’ve learned about our Christian forefathers with others. the other night I started reading under the influence which you had suggested.
Thank you for your lectures, I am learning a lot about the reformation.
Amazing story. Thanks for documenting all these research for posterity.
Bruce -- you've ommitted the incredible contribution that John Knox had in the production of the Geneva bible.
My long departed Scottish grandmother called the Geneva the John Knox Bible and derisively referred to the KJV as the King James Version of the Geneva Bible
Doug Kidd Good point. Thanks!
Was so blessed by these lectures.Thankyou so much.
You are most welcome! ...and thanks for your kind and encouraging feedback!
Bruce, thanks for your presentation of Church history. Soon, 05.13.17, I will be visiting the Langside memorial at Glasgow, on the 449th anniversary of the Battle; and the 100th anniversary of Fatima; your series has been very helpful to my understanding; thanks, Mark
I wish I could join you! Thanks.
Quite the revelation, Bruce. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge of the heritage of law.
Yes, thank you to Bruce Gore. May the revival he prays for come soon.
Amen.
Amazing! ...Made my whole day an Awe Day!
Here We Stand....
Great teaching series on John Knox. I also watched the series on John Calvin and will be viewing others. My only association with the Presbyterian Church, however, was as a custodian for almost 2 years here in Lakeland, Fl. , but recognized them as true Christian brothers and sisters (I am Pentecostal by choice with a strong Baptist influence). As I see it in America, our country is in a world of trouble. The devil is running roughshod over the people of God, not necessarily because of a wrong understanding of salvation by grace, but much like the Libertines you described in one of your lectures on Calvin. Because of satanic deception, and what I call "sanctified sin", the church has become a salt-free, low light, powerless institution, that has forsaken the "way of holiness" (Isa.34:8) Let me share a connective passage of supporting scriptures on the issue. "Oh my people, your leaders MISS - lead you and confuse the course of your paths...Therefore hell has enlarged itself, and opened its mouth beyond measure...For those who lead this people lead them astray and those who are led by them are consumed" (Isa.3:12b, 5:14, 9:16 RSV). As always, Jesus said it best in the N.T. "If the blind lead the blind, shall they not both fall into the ditch?" (Matt.15:14). Parsons Carlson
Great word, brother. Thank you!
That last comment is massive ... Wow ... Thank you ....
Thank you.
The ten toes of the image in the book of Daniel. Democracy justifies itself.
39:28 insurrection nurtured
Could Mary's letter which was used to prove her machinations against Elizabeth had been falsified?..i read somewhere once that some reassessment of it concluded that the errors in the French spelling and grammar mean a woman as proficient as her could not have made those mistakes...and conclude that it must therefore have been forged....i looked this up on the internet but found nothing...frustrating!
+AmidalaEmma Yes, that theory has circulated, but as far as I know has never gotten much traction. My lectures tend to stay within the mainstream of accepted historical theory, but history is always more complex than later summaries can admit!
thanks! it makes me want to see a copy of the letter! lol
If I can throw one into the suggestion box, how about an in-depth lecture series on how the Church and the Reformation helped to shape the founding of the United States? Oh, the joy...
I agree it's a fascinating story. ...as the old saying goes, Calvin was the inventor the US.
Mcfetridge has an excellent book:Calvinism in America. Lorraine Boettner quoted him extensively in his work on the subject.
Do you know where I can learn more details about John Knox's writing on government. I've heard you speak that Calvin/Knox are really the father of America, but what specifically did they promote? For example, you mentioned they required the monarchies to sign an agreement upholding the presbyterrian style government, what was this? Thanks in advance, love your videos.
Loraine Boettner's 'Calvinism in History' and sources cited therein is a good place to start.
www.amazon.com/Calvinism-History-Loraine-Boettner-ebook/dp/B005DST1M2/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?crid=29UVNI609HKY9&keywords=lorraine+boettner+calvinism&qid=1650304808&sprefix=lorraine+boettner+calvinism+%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-1-fkmr1
@@GoreBruce well I skipped ahead to the Calvinism and Representative Government chapter and it really wasn't very good. It was more concerned about making a weak argument that arminiaism leads to tyranny than really delving into the details about Calvin's government positions. Maybe the Calvinism in Scotland will be better.
Alternatively, I got hold of an old article The Political Theory of John Knox by John Grey (1939) and it was excellent. Here's some of his interesting quotes:
"None who compel idolatry, should be allowed to reign and that those who actively oppose and destroy true religion should be put to death.
God demands not only that a man should avoid iniquity himself, but that he should oppose it insofar as in him lies - wherever it may be found."
"If their princes exceed their bounds, and do against that wherefore they should be obeyed, they may be resisted even with power. My travail is that both princes and subjects should obey God."
This sentence contains almost all of his political philosophy, his views on church and state, and almost all his ethics and religion besides. His desire was not that the church, but that God, should dominate the state.
"Preachers should meddle with policy and speak freely of kings, queens and affairs of state."
"Much ink spilt on the question of church and state might be saved if it were remembered that the only absolute obedience enjoined by God is obedience to Himself in faith. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" is simplest rule and clearest guiding for the Christian as ecclesiastic, politician, church member, or citizen."
Thank you so much for this series on Church History. I live in Texas where the Catholic Church is trying to take over Protestant Churches. We have the bizarre situation of Italian Catholics trying to suggest they represent the Presbyterian Church. My family are long time Presbyterians and Calvinists and we are constantly being attacked by Black Presbyterian Catholics who feel that all Presbyterians must be Black and Catholic and Homosexual. John Knox is turning over in his grave, needless to say. This strange mix of racism and Catholicism is also taught by our preachers in Presbyterian Churches. So whatever you can do to educate people is most appreciated. I always pray for non violent cooperation between all faiths, but the Catholic Church particularly in Texas is using our medical system to violently persecute Protestants by poisoning them with diseases and then bankrupting their families through medical bills and killing people through disease. They gleefully use this medical persecution as their modern form of burning people at the stake which they feel they can get away with, avoiding criminal prosecution through deceit. Meanwhile our Presbyterian Preachers smile and preach as if this persecution is all just fine as they become Catholic servants to a new Catholic economic aristocracy. Thank you for this history. I pray that all people find a way to restore Democratic freedom of religion to America and return our medical system to devotion to healing and compassion, rescuing it from the religious sadists who pervert it into persecution. Anything you can do to expose these modern medical and religious crimes would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Pastor Gore: I would like to know if Nero's persecution of Christians was temporary, local and sporadic or can it be considered an imperial persecution as was with Decius and Diocletian. Thanks so much.
The persecution of Christians under Nero began in Rome after the fire of 64, but spread throughout the empire. It was sustained for several years, and was part of what prompted the campaign against Israel in 66. The persecution under Domitian (c. 95) was short, intense, but somewhat sporadic. I will be treating these topics in some detail in my upcoming series on the book of Revelation. Thanks for your interest!
I think that is the Babington Plot in 34:00
It is very troubling to say the American Revolution was a Presbyterian Revokution when it was clearly freemasonic. Do Presbyterians really want to be associated with freemasonry?
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