@@chrisford7824 What a smart and clever input! However, the market totally leans toward what you call the "shit box lightweight". And most of class D amps are just great. The SVT 7 Pro is the best example that comes to my mind.
Decent heads but the bells and whistles don’t make it actually better (IMO) than an early 70’s SVT for straight up tone. Plus the EQ and voicing switches on the old ones is very strong. You can dial in whatever you want. The 2 Pro always sounded a little too constrained vs older ones for me. Had a SVP Pro preamp for a while that was a pretty cool recording unit. Just ran it straight into my 4-track.
The SVT II non-pro blows the classics out of the water in regards to sound. Reliability on the other hand, it's garbage. The worlds largest PCB along with pots connected to the PCB vs. being independently mounted. Bigger question here, why is there a new review of a discontinued amp?
@@Detownrebel1 If you’re referring to the Classic model with the master volume I agree, but it doesn’t beat out an old non master SVT. Not by a long shot.
@@Detownrebel1 A local store has a 74 that sounds pretty good and as much as I'd live to have it in the basement the thought of even carrying it in and out of the car brings a tear to my 51 year old eyes..lol I'll just go with my old 800rb.
I owned 2 of these monsters,both of the Premier Edition US made(first serie of 250 numbered examples),# 013 and # 039. #013 was sold to a double bass player,who played in a psycho billy band.He did gigs in Germany and played with it at Wacken Openair Festival and different bassplayers at the same stage,asked him,if they could use his bassstack,cause they loved the sound. # 039 is going on sale soon,here in the Netherlands/Belgium/Germany. Too many gear at home.
These days you can get 800watts continuous power from class D amps. These full valve heavy monsters can only produce 300watts. I'm a bit confused about these performance figures cause it is hard to believe that those small package class D amps can produce more headroom and volume. For example, there is definitely a sonic/power difference between an Ampeg SVT2 and Markbass SD800. But a full-tubes equipped amp can be louder with its 300watts than a small digi amp rated at 800watts?
It comes down to composure and characteristics. A class D amp can produce a consistent tone at higher volumes or can produce overdriven tones at lower volume through preamp voicing. For some, a tube amp can be a little more intuitive because you start to understand where the amp reaches its breaking point, and it feels more organic. My biggest issue with class D amps is the cost. Most companies are basically charging you per watt output but don't come close to that in terms of material cost.
Amps are rated differently. Tube watts are basically power output when those tubes start introducing all of their tone. Solid State RMS watts are the continuous maximum output and most of them are rated at peak watts. The SVT 4 PRO was made to be a solid State equal to the 2 PRO. It is 1,200 watts RMS / 1,600 watt peak. This is why guitar players often use power attenuators between their tube amp and their speakers.
@@maxine2798 Watts are watts but more watts doesn’t necessarily equal more volume. My 200w Orange AD200 is noticeably louder than the 500w class D Orange Terror Bass (same preamp circuit and everything). SVTs are louder than most 800w class D amps I’ve tried. Two amps with the same wattage rating can have completely different usable volume levels.
It would have been respectful to have the review done by someone who could play the bass. This person reviewing the amp, is not a musician. Obviously. Please have a musician demoing amps in the future. Not beginners or wanna be musicians. Peace and love!
How about *not* playing the bass like it's a guitar? That's what your fingers/thumbs are for. What a weird in-between. Too unskilled to play the bass properly but to play an actual guitar as well? Completely unwatchable and wholely unprofessional. Ouch.
Nice demo. Have this amp with a 610 hlf cab and a 3 pro as back up since 2005. Excellent piece of gear🤘.
Sounds really good, combine it with an 8x10 and you get a killer sound that will kill your back as well. Yet I want one.
God get over the crying about "your back" I'm so sick of hearing about it. Go play your shit box lightweight junk.
@@chrisford7824 don’t be an asshole. You don’t know what rig I have, and you obviously never had to move an 8x10, nor read my comment to the end.
@@chrisford7824 What a smart and clever input! However, the market totally leans toward what you call the "shit box lightweight". And most of class D amps are just great. The SVT 7 Pro is the best example that comes to my mind.
@@francismckagan5422I’ve got the SVT 2 pro and the 7 Pro.The SVT 7 is an awesome amp 😎👍🏻
Great review! Ampeg SVT 2 Pro & EBS 4x10 cab 👍
Decent heads but the bells and whistles don’t make it actually better (IMO) than an early 70’s SVT for straight up tone. Plus the EQ and voicing switches on the old ones is very strong. You can dial in whatever you want. The 2 Pro always sounded a little too constrained vs older ones for me. Had a SVP Pro preamp for a while that was a pretty cool recording unit. Just ran it straight into my 4-track.
The SVT II non-pro blows the classics out of the water in regards to sound. Reliability on the other hand, it's garbage. The worlds largest PCB along with pots connected to the PCB vs. being independently mounted. Bigger question here, why is there a new review of a discontinued amp?
@@Detownrebel1 If you’re referring to the Classic model with the master volume I agree, but it doesn’t beat out an old non master SVT. Not by a long shot.
@@Skoora Well i'm not going to worry because i had both and sold both. I regret both decisions but I am old and have back issues.
@@Detownrebel1 A local store has a 74 that sounds pretty good and as much as I'd live to have it in the basement the thought of even carrying it in and out of the car brings a tear to my 51 year old eyes..lol I'll just go with my old 800rb.
I owned 2 of these monsters,both of the Premier Edition US made(first serie of 250 numbered examples),# 013 and # 039.
#013 was sold to a double bass player,who played in a psycho billy band.He did gigs in Germany and played with it at Wacken Openair Festival and different bassplayers at the same stage,asked him,if they could use his bassstack,cause they loved the sound.
# 039 is going on sale soon,here in the Netherlands/Belgium/Germany.
Too many gear at home.
For how much are you gonna sell the #039? I might be interested.
@@diahex i've offered it for €1500,now it's on reserve for a bassplayer, out of Slowakije.
Like your bass riffs
What type of "Valves" does this amp use? Gate Valves? Globe Valves? Ball Valves? Twin Seal? Butterfly? Motor Operated Valves? Etc...
One way valves! That is, LOUD, LOUDER, LOUDEST ha ha!
These days you can get 800watts continuous power from class D amps. These full valve heavy monsters can only produce 300watts. I'm a bit confused about these performance figures cause it is hard to believe that those small package class D amps can produce more headroom and volume. For example, there is definitely a sonic/power difference between an Ampeg SVT2 and Markbass SD800. But a full-tubes equipped amp can be louder with its 300watts than a small digi amp rated at 800watts?
It comes down to composure and characteristics. A class D amp can produce a consistent tone at higher volumes or can produce overdriven tones at lower volume through preamp voicing. For some, a tube amp can be a little more intuitive because you start to understand where the amp reaches its breaking point, and it feels more organic. My biggest issue with class D amps is the cost. Most companies are basically charging you per watt output but don't come close to that in terms of material cost.
Amps are rated differently. Tube watts are basically power output when those tubes start introducing all of their tone. Solid State RMS watts are the continuous maximum output and most of them are rated at peak watts. The SVT 4 PRO was made to be a solid State equal to the 2 PRO. It is 1,200 watts RMS / 1,600 watt peak. This is why guitar players often use power attenuators between their tube amp and their speakers.
Class D is not digital. It’s just the next class in the classification. Watts are watts.
@@maxine2798 Watts are watts but more watts doesn’t necessarily equal more volume. My 200w Orange AD200 is noticeably louder than the 500w class D Orange Terror Bass (same preamp circuit and everything). SVTs are louder than most 800w class D amps I’ve tried. Two amps with the same wattage rating can have completely different usable volume levels.
@@AlexhPDX currect
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Куда не ткнешь, он базарит а не играет, бесят такие обзоры
It would have been respectful to have the review done by someone who could play the bass.
This person reviewing the amp, is not a musician. Obviously.
Please have a musician demoing amps in the future. Not beginners or wanna be musicians.
Peace and love!
How about *not* playing the bass like it's a guitar? That's what your fingers/thumbs are for.
What a weird in-between. Too unskilled to play the bass properly but to play an actual guitar as well?
Completely unwatchable and wholely unprofessional. Ouch.
Clearly you didnt watch the whole video.
George, I sort of sense you're the wise one of the bunch, correct?
Where’s the link to your video George? 🖕🫵
This fellow can play bass, you????
@@charlesjaphe Not properly though. Fingaz, 'memba?