Thank you for this detailed video. I'm a BJJ student but I don't live near a judo school so watching your posts really helps. All the way from Sligo, Ireland 🇮🇪 Thanks again.
The practice of Judo is always a little different from one certain dojo to another, which is why each dojos teach students a little different way to do a throw but this is by far the most accurate representation of the throw that I have seen. Definitely going to try this one during fights!
I see now why I was always making this difficult on myself. I was stepping outside his leg instead of stepping inside with my support leg. great breakdown.
Wow this is great content covering many aspects of a technique order often overlooked like grips and footwork. I do not practice judo only freestyle wrestling and bjj but uchi mata has always been a favourite throw of mine. Didn’t realize there were so many nuances to the uchi mata in judo . Its one of my favourite offensive throws but also is great defensively against underhooks and great setup for other attacks. The uchi mata from Russian 2-1👌
I usually step on the outside of the leg for uchi-mata while pulling round then sweep the inside leg rather than go straight up the middle. I find the way you demonstrate a lot more challenging but then again I’m 6ft 3
Same as for some others Uchi mata is difficult/unusual, I thought that I should not use the hip, but thank you for clarifying that the hip is intended.
Not 100% sure I understand. If you mean, fainting an attack to get uke to go jigotai then actually attack as they return to a shizentai stance, then yes!
I'm very new to judo and I was wondering if you could change the lapel grip to a back grip when you go hip to hip or does that turn it into a different throw? Love your videos btw ❤️
Thanks for watching. Using a back grip is a good way for beginners to practice techniques like this because it provides better upper body connection, which helps you balance a bit better. The reality is that you'll mainly fight from lapel grips unless you're in a right vs left or left vs right scenario, so you need to be able to use the lapel grip for your techniques. The same is true for practicing harai-goshi and hane-goshi where you need to balance on one leg.
All throws require the whole body to work in unison. You need to continue using the hands to guide the opponent through the throw even when you get the lift with the leg - the hands form an important part of finishing the throw and making sure the opponent lands on their back.
Hane-goshi is hip technique while uchi-mata is a leg technique. The main action in uchi-mata comes from the tori lifting uke via leg to inner thigh connection. Hane-goshi the lift comes from the hip, while tori's leg in Hane-goshi can look like it does he lifting, it's secondary to the hip.
Efficient Judo . Yes I agree with your description. It doesn’t concur with the words in the video that say “...it comes manly from the hips.” And the leg is mainly to guide the throw. What Is presented is like a Ukigoshi (floating hip, see Kano demos) with the sweeping leg entering between. Good technique though what ever it truly is 😉. No offence intended.
This type of Uchi-mata (hip uchi-mata) is best suited against taller opponents. Make sure you break the balance well, so that uke is already leaning forwards. The sweeping leg can even connect with the other thigh, like in Hane-goshi.
Mirko Paragano as I know, the type of uchi mata you are saying is “Ken-Ken uchi mata ” for the right side,Ken-Ken uchi mata will be sweeping your opponent's left leg and less hip contact,the higher you can sweep your opponent's leg,the more you can get the ippon,so this technique is more suitable for tall judoka. and the hip uchi mata,which is similar to hane-goshi, will be sweeping your opponent's right leg and hip contact.
this is a very good performance. No disrespect the master, but, against taller oponent doesn't work, i so many times. Yes, if quality not equale. czcams.com/video/0sJLbvCmwdg/video.html
@@nenadzdravkovic950 if Kosei Inoue thought it was worth attempting on Teddy, then it probably works on taller people. He would know. But Teddy countered.
What the different between uchi mata and harai goshi? Is it just where the right leg(or sweeping leg) placement? Harai goshi placed right leg on opponent right side and uchi mata placed right leg on opponent's center.
Harai-goshi is koshi-waza (hip technique), Uchi-mata is ashi-waza (foot technique). Harai requires hip action, and while we show a hip version of uchi-mata, its not strictly speaking necessary to get that level of hip contact (look at some of our demos for variations of uchi-mata with much less hip). The leg action of tori is in between the legs for uchi-mata, while harai-goshi its outside of the legs.
@@EfficientJudo ah I got it now. While uchi mata is like trippling your opponent using your leg and momentum, harai goshi use your hip to lever your opponent. Thank you for your explanation.
I assume you talking about a right vs left scenario? It's the reason you want to control that far sixe sleeve, as that's the grip that allows you to rotate uke effectively. Failing having that grip, you're relying on whatever grip to do have for rotation, but as you may have discovered, it difficult. While I wouldn't normally recommend changing a grip mid throw, you may be able to wrap up their arm as they try to post.
@@EfficientJudo Thank you for the breakdown Sensei, I’ve always had trouble understanding this throw, now I know the leg is just used as a guide and not complete leverage. When we see high level judo, they do a powerful split to guide. Insane. Always thought most of the power is generated there and not thought the rotation and hip.
Help, I keep kicking the jewels of my opponents. I'm lost on what to do with the sweeping leg (do I bend the knee as to sweep from the front to back, or how do I practice to specifically land on the inner thigh and no the jewels)
Sometimes the leg does sweep in the middle - if you are going for this style of uchi-mata, then you need to have some hip contact and lift, otherwise you'll be trying to lift your opponent by that groin with your hamstring. Otherwise you need to attack from further outside of the opponent with a more leg centric uchi-mata, like the spinning uchi-mata demo.
A great throw to make someone off balance and set them up for another throw I used this throw on my sparring partner in the clinch position,since his legs are closed I did the outside thigh kick instead of doing the inside thigh kick to throw him half way and I used the puter kepala throw to turn him and he ends up on the ground without me going to the ground with him
@@EfficientJudo That's understandable, I am looking forward for no-gi throws and will practice gi throws in the meantime :) Thanks for your content, it really helps
my favourite move after tai otochi. listen, when you try to throw and u are stuck use this move to denie the opponent last support. it's the evolution of tai otochi and arai gochi. I tried all three in combat and it safer.
its so hard for me to do uchi mata because my legs are so weak so it basically gives up after a couple seconds, any tips for my problem?im still trying to do it
You need to make sure you are balanced - if you feel you are tipping over in one direction or another then it shows that your support leg is not centrally placed. You can work on the balance by practicing Harai-goshi but using a grip around the back (like an O-goshi).
It depends on you, the best throw is the one you're best at. There are technical subtleties to it, but it's more about how you set up attacks and commit to them.
@@EfficientJudo thx for replying, but I really can't lift my opponent up to throw him, but during practice, I use the 'practice form' Uchi Mata, I can throw my partner to the mat.
@@jimjimjim000-.- if you can't balance on one leg while throwing uke, then you need to work on your balance. I suggest practicing Harai-goshi with an O-goshi style grip (under the armpit around the back) - do this until you are able to lift and balance on one leg.
Owh ya bcuz of this lesson I remember when I was 4th grade my teacher was doing this to me but in mattras and it feels like riding roller coaster but a bit painful lol
Yes it a very valid point, in fact if you look at the kodokan classification, uchi-mata is ashi-waza. But I feel for most beginners, they have a much easier time learning the throw with hip connection. We have a number of different demo videos with more leg based variations of uchi-mata.
Not gonna lie, I feel like the back of my thigh is hitting the groin of uke when I do this even with my support leg being deep in. I'm only able to pull off an uchimata off of a failed ouchi gari or countering a single leg.
Why is uchi mata called a leg technique? I have never primarily used my legs to throw anyone with uchi mata. I've always used primarily my hip to pivot the person about my hip and then sweep the person with my legs. Honestly, I have no idea on how you actually expect to get someone to completely leave both feet off the ground with just your legs. If I don't use my hips, then I'll end up doing a ten ten uchi mata(uchi mata where you're hopping, doing circles),
Uchi-Mata is a leg technique - that is its kodokan classification. I agree with you that the hip variation is probably the most used and useful, and we show hip contact in the video. But its possible to perform uchi-mata as a pure leg action without needing to hop (being taller than uke helps with this, but isnt needed). A simple example of this as a leg action would be as a counter to a kosoto. Also watch some the top level Japanese fighters and you'll see very leg based Uchi-matas - Joshiro Maruyama being an example.
For uchi-mata it can be, if the person is tall enough to be able to keep their foot on the floor as you lift. But it's not impossible - but also remember that it's about using the right technique for the right situation.
Efficient Judo you’re right. İf uke executes some of ashi-waza techniques as ko uchi gari or tori loses his balance simultanously uchi-mata can be executed but not a basic techniques against a taller opponent than you.
Worked this throw for weeks and then threw my coach with it. Will never forget that feeling!
Awesome! And thanks for watching!
For me uchi mata is one of the most difficult throws, and it was a great help to make my technique better. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching! Once you get comfortable with the basics, don't forget to checkout the setups and variations!
For me too, I haven’t been able to effectively teach my kids either 😂
The imbalance of the uke and the balance of the tori facilitates the technique.
It was pretty easy for me
Same, been learning uchi mata for the past few months and it is by far the most difficult of my new throws to pull off
That was BEAUTIFUL!!!! I appreciate the full speed and slow motion execution at the end.
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Seeing a shorter person do this throw has been a real help. I was taught by a tall coach, and he didnt know how to teach a short guy this throw.
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Hit this today during sparring, such a satisfying throw
Awesome!
Getting a 5000 lbs force isn't satisfying tbh
Probably one of the hardest throws to do. Especially if you are shorter
I love how short and easy to understand these videos are. No unnecessary talking, short and concise.
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Thank you very much. Student from Sydney, Australia.
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Your form and technical break down is awesome! Thank you for posting and thank you for teaching me!
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It helps a great deal when Sensei speaks good English, and slowly speak while explaining. Good job, Sensei.
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Thank you for this detailed video. I'm a BJJ student but I don't live near a judo school so watching your posts really helps. All the way from Sligo, Ireland 🇮🇪 Thanks again.
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@@EfficientJudo You are so welcome. 🙏
Same here. Only I'm up the road a bit, in Armagh. Lol.
Nice to see a fellow Irish judoka
The practice of Judo is always a little different from one certain dojo to another, which is why each dojos teach students a little different way to do a throw but this is by far the most accurate representation of the throw that I have seen. Definitely going to try this one during fights!
the key important is the hip that lift and sweep the thigh. make it easy to throw even bigger opponent.
I see now why I was always making this difficult on myself. I was stepping outside his leg instead of stepping inside with my support leg. great breakdown.
Holy hell I keep doing the exact same thing. Thanks to this I'll be able to try again a lot easier tomorrow
@@xrstevenson How did it go for you?
@@AnGhaeilge after a month of practice i hardly have any trouble, I can do it successfully
Awesome! well done!
Incredibly well done explanation! Thanks for all the details 👍
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very good explanation
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This is some really amazing content, thanks for breaking down the steps.
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Great technique! I competed in Judo back in highschool, that was my favourite trow.
Thanks for watching! Uchi-mata is a classic and very effective technique.
Excellent demonstration.
Thanks!
It's super.
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Nice technique and explanation. Thanks a lot!
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Wow this is great content covering many aspects of a technique order often overlooked like grips and footwork.
I do not practice judo only freestyle wrestling and bjj but uchi mata has always been a favourite throw of mine. Didn’t realize there were so many nuances to the uchi mata in judo .
Its one of my favourite offensive throws but also is great defensively against underhooks and great setup for other attacks. The uchi mata from Russian 2-1👌
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Love your content. Thank you!
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This is so well explained! Ty man!
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Кайф, спасибо!!!!!!!
Videos getting better and better. Love the slow motion at the end.
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Excellent explanation
Thanks!
Uchi Mata looks easy
Great example. Thank u. Godbless u.
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Thanks for demonstrating so clearly
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that was epic, thank you!
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This is my favourite throw.
Awesome! Uchi-mata is a classic!
Nk you for the very detailed explanation.
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thanks a lot for instruction.
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Nice video keep it up,pal!
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Uchi mata is my favourite throw and this video will probably help me make that technique better, Its my fav throw but I dont think Im very good at it
Practice makes perfect
I usually step on the outside of the leg for uchi-mata while pulling round then sweep the inside leg rather than go straight up the middle. I find the way you demonstrate a lot more challenging but then again I’m 6ft 3
The outside, spinning style of uchi-mata can be a great way to execute the technique too.
Same as for some others Uchi mata is difficult/unusual, I thought that I should not use the hip, but thank you for clarifying that the hip is intended.
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Guapo y bien explicado.Enhorabuena
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I love this technique
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Beautifully done; thank you. My only concern with doing this version is putting my leg... too much in the middle of uke's legs
You mean you're worried about hitting their groin?
@@EfficientJudo yes haha
I wonder if I timed it just right, would I be able to perform the uchi Mata throw from a rising block (block and capture)?
Not 100% sure I understand. If you mean, fainting an attack to get uke to go jigotai then actually attack as they return to a shizentai stance, then yes!
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Wow, this looks hard 😅
But the way you break it down makes it seem so simple
It just takes practice
Great technique
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Nice broo oss
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great video.
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first video ive ever seen on this channel and it wont be the last
great explanation 10/10 and all the details are perfect
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Same here
Love it
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Thanks you!
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I'm very new to judo and I was wondering if you could change the lapel grip to a back grip when you go hip to hip or does that turn it into a different throw? Love your videos btw ❤️
Thanks for watching. Using a back grip is a good way for beginners to practice techniques like this because it provides better upper body connection, which helps you balance a bit better. The reality is that you'll mainly fight from lapel grips unless you're in a right vs left or left vs right scenario, so you need to be able to use the lapel grip for your techniques. The same is true for practicing harai-goshi and hane-goshi where you need to balance on one leg.
@@EfficientJudo That makes sense. Thank you for clearing that up for me. I'll keep practicing ☺️
This helps me alot!
Now i can do this to my friend during judo
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a question about this: when you put the leg inside of the uke´s balance, is just that movement or i should pull his sleeve down?
All throws require the whole body to work in unison. You need to continue using the hands to guide the opponent through the throw even when you get the lift with the leg - the hands form an important part of finishing the throw and making sure the opponent lands on their back.
Awesome
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Wait, i think this is HANE GOSHI, what a difference?
Hane-goshi is hip technique while uchi-mata is a leg technique. The main action in uchi-mata comes from the tori lifting uke via leg to inner thigh connection. Hane-goshi the lift comes from the hip, while tori's leg in Hane-goshi can look like it does he lifting, it's secondary to the hip.
Efficient Judo . Yes I agree with your description. It doesn’t concur with the words in the video that say “...it comes manly from the hips.” And the leg is mainly to guide the throw. What
Is presented is like a Ukigoshi (floating hip, see Kano demos) with the sweeping leg entering between.
Good technique though what ever it truly is 😉. No offence intended.
Thank you
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Hi sensei can uchiamata works against a very taller opponent?
If yes what changes... how execute it in this situation?
Thanks
This type of Uchi-mata (hip uchi-mata) is best suited against taller opponents. Make sure you break the balance well, so that uke is already leaning forwards. The sweeping leg can even connect with the other thigh, like in Hane-goshi.
Efficient Judo
So this version is more a hip throw than a ashi waza?
Much people call uchimata a tall guys technique
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Mirko Paragano
as I know, the type of uchi mata you are saying is “Ken-Ken uchi mata ”
for the right side,Ken-Ken uchi mata will be sweeping your opponent's left leg and less hip contact,the higher you can sweep your opponent's leg,the more you can get the ippon,so this technique is more suitable for tall judoka.
and the hip uchi mata,which is similar to hane-goshi, will be sweeping your opponent's right leg and hip contact.
this is a very good performance. No disrespect the master, but, against taller oponent doesn't work, i so many times. Yes, if quality not equale.
czcams.com/video/0sJLbvCmwdg/video.html
@@nenadzdravkovic950 if Kosei Inoue thought it was worth attempting on Teddy, then it probably works on taller people. He would know. But Teddy countered.
Hi, I could make a video explaining the Ippon Kouchi technique and with what other technique I could combine it.
Do you mean what can be used and combined with Kouchi-makikomi? czcams.com/video/sSEaC2Y1-e0/video.html
What the different between uchi mata and harai goshi? Is it just where the right leg(or sweeping leg) placement? Harai goshi placed right leg on opponent right side and uchi mata placed right leg on opponent's center.
Harai-goshi is koshi-waza (hip technique), Uchi-mata is ashi-waza (foot technique). Harai requires hip action, and while we show a hip version of uchi-mata, its not strictly speaking necessary to get that level of hip contact (look at some of our demos for variations of uchi-mata with much less hip). The leg action of tori is in between the legs for uchi-mata, while harai-goshi its outside of the legs.
@@EfficientJudo ah I got it now. While uchi mata is like trippling your opponent using your leg and momentum, harai goshi use your hip to lever your opponent. Thank you for your explanation.
Good sir
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Sensei, how do you prevent posting by the hand in instances where you can’t establish a sleeve grip on the far side?
I assume you talking about a right vs left scenario? It's the reason you want to control that far sixe sleeve, as that's the grip that allows you to rotate uke effectively. Failing having that grip, you're relying on whatever grip to do have for rotation, but as you may have discovered, it difficult. While I wouldn't normally recommend changing a grip mid throw, you may be able to wrap up their arm as they try to post.
@@EfficientJudo Thank you for the breakdown Sensei, I’ve always had trouble understanding this throw, now I know the leg is just used as a guide and not complete leverage. When we see high level judo, they do a powerful split to guide. Insane. Always thought most of the power is generated there and not thought the rotation and hip.
Help, I keep kicking the jewels of my opponents. I'm lost on what to do with the sweeping leg (do I bend the knee as to sweep from the front to back, or how do I practice to specifically land on the inner thigh and no the jewels)
Sometimes the leg does sweep in the middle - if you are going for this style of uchi-mata, then you need to have some hip contact and lift, otherwise you'll be trying to lift your opponent by that groin with your hamstring. Otherwise you need to attack from further outside of the opponent with a more leg centric uchi-mata, like the spinning uchi-mata demo.
Thank you, it is very rare for youtube channels to reply so quickly to comments and even more so for older videos. You have my respect
@@edmondchan9699 we do our best to reply to every comment, even if it's just to say thanks for watching our video!
Good !!
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A great throw to make someone off balance and set them up for another throw I used this throw on my sparring partner in the clinch position,since his legs are closed I did the outside thigh kick instead of doing the inside thigh kick to throw him half way and I used the puter kepala throw to turn him and he ends up on the ground without me going to the ground with him
Thanks sensei
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Thank you sir
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Some amputee guy was picking a fight with my pal at a bar, thanks for the tip, incredibly easy. Man just fell over
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Uchi Mata is the hardest move to get right in Judo. Harai Goshi in comparison is so much easier to pull off.
Muito bom bem explicado 👏👏
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Hello there, I love your tutorials, are you willing to do nogi versions of throws for fellow MMA and NoGi grappling practicioners ? :)
No gi throws is on our content roadmap - but we have a number of higher priority videos to create first.
@@EfficientJudo That's understandable, I am looking forward for no-gi throws and will practice gi throws in the meantime :) Thanks for your content, it really helps
beautiful
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my favourite move after tai otochi.
listen, when you try to throw and u are stuck use this move to denie the opponent last support.
it's the evolution of
tai otochi and arai gochi.
I tried all three in combat and it safer.
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Have you done various grips with Uchi mata?
We have the competitive variatiosn video, but its not looking specifically at different grips - but I'll add it as an idea to the list.
its so hard for me to do uchi mata because my legs are so weak so it basically gives up after a couple seconds, any tips for my problem?im still trying to do it
You need to make sure you are balanced - if you feel you are tipping over in one direction or another then it shows that your support leg is not centrally placed. You can work on the balance by practicing Harai-goshi but using a grip around the back (like an O-goshi).
Do squats to build strength. Try high bar and front squats
Uchikomi bands help me develop the strength and balance for this throw.
I didn't know Hugo Lloris does Judo
in a real world, when would you use uchi-meta verus something like ogoshi (hip throw). When would you use one over the other?
It depends on you, the best throw is the one you're best at. There are technical subtleties to it, but it's more about how you set up attacks and commit to them.
where can I find such a mat on which page, please, give me a name!
You want to know the supplier of the actual mats? They are Dollamur mats.
I remember trying the uchi mata once and it worked perfectly. Beginner's luck I guess.
If you practice enough, you'll find beginners luck happens more!
Great video, but I don't know how to execute it in real fight, I always fall to to the front while my opponent is on my back
That's just a balance / practice issue. The more you execute it training the better you'll become and keeping your balance.
@@EfficientJudo thx for replying, but I really can't lift my opponent up to throw him, but during practice, I use the 'practice form' Uchi Mata, I can throw my partner to the mat.
@@jimjimjim000-.- if you can't balance on one leg while throwing uke, then you need to work on your balance. I suggest practicing Harai-goshi with an O-goshi style grip (under the armpit around the back) - do this until you are able to lift and balance on one leg.
Owh ya bcuz of this lesson I remember when I was 4th grade my teacher was doing this to me but in mattras and it feels like riding roller coaster but a bit painful lol
Tnk u
2:11 why are you taking the step backward before beginning?
Its a compromise between having limited space to shoot our videos and wanting to show the techniques with dynamism.
@@EfficientJudo it looks like it's a part of the technique
God damn, judo is gorgeous!
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@@EfficientJudo thanks for demonstrating!
That was only the Koshi-Uchi-Mata.
I hoped, you would show the Ashi-Uchi-Mata too
Yes it a very valid point, in fact if you look at the kodokan classification, uchi-mata is ashi-waza. But I feel for most beginners, they have a much easier time learning the throw with hip connection. We have a number of different demo videos with more leg based variations of uchi-mata.
Nino used Uchi-Mata, and has the pictures to prove it.
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the good ole' whizzer kick!
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Not gonna lie, I feel like the back of my thigh is hitting the groin of uke when I do this even with my support leg being deep in. I'm only able to pull off an uchimata off of a failed ouchi gari or countering a single leg.
Sometimes it does go straight up the middle, but you should still be able to throw form there.
Oh you use your hip . I was misunderstanding by using my thigh lift his thigh for a long time , Damn it!!!
There are two common 'styles' of Uchi-mata, hip and leg, both are perfectly valid!
is this technique actually useful for self defense?
It's one of the most used techniques in Judo
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You see this a lot when both guys are like about the throw one another n one guy reverses his throw
Its a commonly used technique!
Why is uchi mata called a leg technique? I have never primarily used my legs to throw anyone with uchi mata. I've always used primarily my hip to pivot the person about my hip and then sweep the person with my legs. Honestly, I have no idea on how you actually expect to get someone to completely leave both feet off the ground with just your legs. If I don't use my hips, then I'll end up doing a ten ten uchi mata(uchi mata where you're hopping, doing circles),
Uchi-Mata is a leg technique - that is its kodokan classification. I agree with you that the hip variation is probably the most used and useful, and we show hip contact in the video. But its possible to perform uchi-mata as a pure leg action without needing to hop (being taller than uke helps with this, but isnt needed). A simple example of this as a leg action would be as a counter to a kosoto. Also watch some the top level Japanese fighters and you'll see very leg based Uchi-matas - Joshiro Maruyama being an example.
Nunca pude.
2:11
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İt is hard to be successful if you have short leg portion against tall opponent
For uchi-mata it can be, if the person is tall enough to be able to keep their foot on the floor as you lift. But it's not impossible - but also remember that it's about using the right technique for the right situation.
Efficient Judo you’re right. İf uke executes some of ashi-waza techniques as ko uchi gari or tori loses his balance simultanously uchi-mata can be executed but not a basic techniques against a taller opponent than you.
I am the best Judoka
Congrats!
I am left hand I do Uchi Mata without cross the legs.
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❤❤❤❤❤HELLO my Sense wrestling or jodu for stirt fait Defense
I saw a dog in the thumb...
You're not the first person to have said that! lol
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I will try it on the annoying classmate.
In Judo class, right?