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  • FIELD REPORT FROM CORPORATE AMERICA’S BREEDING GROUND.
    Featuring interviews with students at the University of Virginia Darden School of Business; Adam Grant, organizational psychologist and professor at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School; Ed Freeman, philosopher and professor at Darden; Jeff Pfeffer, professor at Stanford’s Graduate School of Business; and Scott Galloway, podcast host and professor at the NYU Stern School of Business.
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    Video by Dan Toomey and Henry Stockwell
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    00:00-02:03: Intro
    02:03-06:15: Interviewing students
    06:15-12:14: Interviewing professors
    12:14-12:48: Conclusion
    12:48-13:31: Toga party

Komentáře • 2K

  • @GoodWorkMB
    @GoodWorkMB  Před 5 měsíci +1808

    We have now fully investigated schools of business. What should we cover next? Or what schools should we visit? Only coming if toga parties.

    • @alltheworldatmyfeet
      @alltheworldatmyfeet Před 5 měsíci +2

      Investigate stem and tech schools and figure out why so many of them have god complexes

    • @conradvancoller2942
      @conradvancoller2942 Před 5 měsíci +40

      How about schools of technology

    • @icecreamheadache
      @icecreamheadache Před 5 měsíci +37

      How about the crossover of corporations and colleges? Wichita State must have at least ten new buildings on campus built and run by outside corporations, where students work for free...I mean intern. 🤨

    • @copiouscat
      @copiouscat Před 5 měsíci +41

      You def have to fuck up some commas in Insurance and healthcare!

    • @Western_1
      @Western_1 Před 5 měsíci +30

      I feel like a major fine art school would be cool on the grounds that you don't overdo the Hitler jokes.

  • @DigitalisGirl100
    @DigitalisGirl100 Před 5 měsíci +9808

    glad to see society is getting more consultants, we really need more people to consult with

    • @yunleung2631
      @yunleung2631 Před 5 měsíci +485

      consultants need consultants

    • @RGatGala
      @RGatGala Před 5 měsíci +313

      The thing I find interesting with the obsession of elite non-STEM, non-creative young people wanting to go into consulting or finance as opposed to literally any other part of the "business" world is that... this is obviously unsustainable. Consulting and finance only exists if there are clients (i.e. businesses/entrepreneurs that directly do productive and valuable things). People are scared little souls playing their status games, no one wants to take a risk. Not even the most privledged people in society. This is probably less true for immigrants, so once again WE NEED IMMIGRATION.

    • @grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic563
      @grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic563 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​​@@RGatGala but... but... murr freedom! those immigrants are trynna take away murr freedom!!!! #keepfreedominmurica #keeplatinamericansawayfromstroads

    • @Bidmartinlo
      @Bidmartinlo Před 5 měsíci +131

      @@RGatGala I think you're not seeing the bigger picture here. We obviously just need to cut spending and tempt employees with free burgers (1 pr employee). Infinite profit.

    • @RGatGala
      @RGatGala Před 5 měsíci

      Hey, free burgers. I'm in. @@Bidmartinlo

  • @martinconway8174
    @martinconway8174 Před 5 měsíci +8255

    The two professors are a great comparison. The bald guy is drowning in the Kool Aid, and the beard guy is based as hell

    • @johannes-7710
      @johannes-7710 Před 5 měsíci +56

      What does drowning in the Kool aid mean?

    • @bananarama4925
      @bananarama4925 Před 5 měsíci +956

      ​@@johannes-7710 he was lost in the sauce

    • @keomg4718
      @keomg4718 Před 5 měsíci

      @@johannes-7710 drinking from the mountain of knowledge, based is a communist libtard thing or people that hate money and want to give money to africa for nothing

    • @eggyparrot3844
      @eggyparrot3844 Před 5 měsíci +522

      @@johannes-7710 Presumably a reference to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid . Someone who has totally bought into a cult

    • @latlatko
      @latlatko Před 5 měsíci +134

      drowning in kool-aid or has better media training? marketing is also a skill.

  • @marcialabrahantes3369
    @marcialabrahantes3369 Před 4 měsíci +2750

    The ethics professor deserves an entire humor department to himself

    • @f-empire-8
      @f-empire-8 Před 4 měsíci +101

      I thought the same. Everything he says seems well thought out and reasonable, 100% would want him as a teacher.

    • @CompoundingTime
      @CompoundingTime Před 4 měsíci +22

      Love profs like him.

    • @catzor4795
      @catzor4795 Před 4 měsíci

      He's also jewish. Very ethics indeed.

    • @elliotw.888
      @elliotw.888 Před 4 měsíci +104

      when he said oxymorons like "funny CZcams channel" I actually laughed out loud

    • @VideoAmericanStyle
      @VideoAmericanStyle Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@elliotw.888 no, that wasn’t you. That was the videographer.

  • @elliotklein6331
    @elliotklein6331 Před 5 měsíci +2905

    Don't worry Dan, your apartment looks great. Just get a bookshelf with a bunch of books behind you and all of a sudden you become an expert on talking about overpriced business degrees.

    • @zappbrannigan83
      @zappbrannigan83 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Don't forget the low key sex toy

    • @TheBomber15
      @TheBomber15 Před 5 měsíci +70

      The no context comment on Dan’s apartment was weird as all fucking hell. What was that about??

    • @Dodzilla96
      @Dodzilla96 Před 5 měsíci +85

      @@TheBomber15 It's called a 'joke', and they're really not particularly unusual

    • @silasc7996
      @silasc7996 Před 5 měsíci +149

      ​@@Dodzilla96 Making unalive jokes to a stranger during an interview is pretty unusual...

    • @Dodzilla96
      @Dodzilla96 Před 5 měsíci +36

      @silasc7996 It's not unusual in a comedy interview like this to make suicide jokes, I thought it was funny

  • @nickc3657
    @nickc3657 Před 5 měsíci +8128

    It’s comforting to know the people ruining the economy are miserable

    • @etrestre9403
      @etrestre9403 Před 5 měsíci +53

      cry about it

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz Před 5 měsíci +929

      ​@@etrestre9403your comment doesn't make sense in this context

    • @etrestre9403
      @etrestre9403 Před 5 měsíci

      @@tomlxyz he's crying about people "ruining the economy" because he's simply envious of said people for being richer and more successful.
      Are they actually miserable? Of course not! If you think they're miserable, you've never talked to one in your entire life.
      Classic leftie thinking

    • @AkuaWalters
      @AkuaWalters Před 5 měsíci +141

      it hardens the ethically compromised heart

    • @dinglesworld
      @dinglesworld Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@etrestre9403Hmm 🤔

  • @ThrowAway-jf5nw
    @ThrowAway-jf5nw Před 5 měsíci +2271

    Dan Toomey
    4 time MBA All Star
    2 time MBA Finals Week MVP
    2 time MBA Thesis Defensive Player of the Year

    • @bbrbbr-on2gd
      @bbrbbr-on2gd Před 5 měsíci +68

      Don't forget #1 MBA Draft Pick

    • @19MAD95
      @19MAD95 Před 5 měsíci +51

      2 time MBA Rookie of the Year.

    • @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070
      @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 Před 5 měsíci +9

      I'm trying to not wake up my roommate and I just died at this
      "MBA Finals Week" u gotta be stopped 😂

    • @linonator
      @linonator Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@19MAD95😂😂 this is gold

    • @swagistan69420
      @swagistan69420 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@19MAD95How tf can you get 2 MBA Rookie of the Year's?

  • @averylane2528
    @averylane2528 Před 5 měsíci +1172

    Galloway’s comment about the corporations being the customers and the students the product was really enlightening.

    • @mootytootyfrooty
      @mootytootyfrooty Před 4 měsíci +14

      Aaaand that's why I dropped out of cal poly

    • @cerbarus3000
      @cerbarus3000 Před 4 měsíci +10

      Except business schools get money from the students

    • @KoolMonkE
      @KoolMonkE Před 4 měsíci +33

      @@mootytootyfrooty You dropped out of a STEM school because business degrees are useless?

    • @mootytootyfrooty
      @mootytootyfrooty Před 4 měsíci +29

      @@KoolMonkE no it's just the same deal of your goal there is to go work for lockheed and so on and thats what your senior project is. Full nose to the grindstone with no real room to breathe so you end up slaving away but not complaining cuz muh paycheck so big. I have found better careers in STEM outside

    • @uniqueusername69
      @uniqueusername69 Před 4 měsíci +1

      That stood out to me too. I never thought of it that way.

  • @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070
    @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 Před 5 měsíci +531

    "Serial Ted-Talker" is a sly, scathing and underhanded insult and I am here for it

    • @0Clewi0
      @0Clewi0 Před měsícem +2

      I would say it's a red flag but considering how many students think that a main skill or bulshitting he's really a master, we just have to see if they can teach students to be as good as him.

  • @Maxyy40
    @Maxyy40 Před 5 měsíci +3903

    MBA Student - " I will do anything other than consulting"
    Dan - "Finally some diversity"

    • @Silver-Arrow
      @Silver-Arrow Před 5 měsíci +67

      i bet that dog wanted to do consulting too

    • @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070
      @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 Před 5 měsíci +6

      The African Delegation thought that was funny as shit 😂

    • @geralt9036
      @geralt9036 Před 4 měsíci +9

      wow, mr statingwhathasalreadybeensaidinthevideoo

    • @sammirose5084
      @sammirose5084 Před 4 měsíci +2

      HIS NAME IS MARK.

    • @DallaS.88
      @DallaS.88 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@geralt9036wow, mr ihaveneverencounteredquotesbefore

  • @aidan8594
    @aidan8594 Před 4 měsíci +1078

    ethics professor is the type of business professor we need more of

    • @tethron.
      @tethron. Před 4 měsíci +46

      He was the only genuine and wholesome character there in the entire college

    • @jesusmolina-zepeda1471
      @jesusmolina-zepeda1471 Před 4 měsíci +34

      Bro also flamed his CZcams channel 😭

    • @BurakvsPegasus
      @BurakvsPegasus Před 4 měsíci +4

      Yes right, because other nations give a fuck on ethics. We can't compete if we care, thats the money game.

    • @teekanne15
      @teekanne15 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Its a position that is ther purley to slab some "sustainability" branding on your campus. The students dont care and the companies dont care and most consumers dont care

    • @laaaliiiluuu
      @laaaliiiluuu Před 4 měsíci +25

      ​@@BurakvsPegasusThen I rather die than to live in a world like that.

  • @sukaribrown3298
    @sukaribrown3298 Před 5 měsíci +1178

    Ed Freeman was one of my fave professors at Darden. Can confirm this is how hilarious he is in real life 😂😂

    • @james_chatman
      @james_chatman Před 5 měsíci +217

      Sooooooo....are you in consulting?

    • @yeetboi268
      @yeetboi268 Před 5 měsíci

      @@james_chatman I can consult you with the answer

    • @usedname9467
      @usedname9467 Před 4 měsíci +27

      Aaaaaand are you married?

    • @mystriddlery
      @mystriddlery Před 4 měsíci +3

      Happy belated Hanukah

    • @sukaribrown3298
      @sukaribrown3298 Před 4 měsíci

      @@james_chatman haha no I’m not! I opted for the world of finance and investing😂

  • @PBoyle
    @PBoyle Před 5 měsíci +515

    Something has to be done to stop the influence Coldplay are having on the future management consultants of America!

    • @amicaaranearum
      @amicaaranearum Před 4 měsíci +26

      My favorite source for rap news.

    • @Notcleverenough
      @Notcleverenough Před 4 měsíci +12

      🧐 why are you watching YT, Professor?

    • @MJB4646
      @MJB4646 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yes. I know when we started we had high hopes, now our back’s are on the line and ours back’s are on the ropes

    • @suindude8149
      @suindude8149 Před 3 měsíci +3

      We are always under the high end consulting all the time.

    • @otticeunited9627
      @otticeunited9627 Před 2 měsíci +7

      This is obviously a very biased opinion since your channel is dedicated to rap music.

  • @yaojo27
    @yaojo27 Před 5 měsíci +1405

    The people demand the full chat with Ed Freeman

  • @BaronVonSTFU
    @BaronVonSTFU Před 5 měsíci +2232

    All these students should have to read Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber prior to graduating. Just so that they don't think they are crazy when they realize they are getting paid so much to do basically nothing.

    • @yunleung2631
      @yunleung2631 Před 5 měsíci +150

      LOL, that book is my BIBLE.
      Made me take everything so much less seriously

    • @mnbdy
      @mnbdy Před 5 měsíci +36

      That book changed my lifeeeee

    • @dinglesworld
      @dinglesworld Před 5 měsíci +98

      I found that book after a dive into a Reddit comment section. Thats the heavy price I paid for knowledge.

    • @-BarathKumarS
      @-BarathKumarS Před 5 měsíci +244

      I'm actually not joking,one of my friends works at one of the MBB...he one day showed me what he worked on and it was power point presentations and excel sheets that any high schooler could make + not to mention the over 20 meetings everyday which amount to nothing.
      He literally does nothing,seriously nothing.Heck any programmer could write a script to automate 80% of his job but my god he is paid six figures without doing any serious work.

    • @lemonhaze1506
      @lemonhaze1506 Před 5 měsíci +60

      @@-BarathKumarS I'm sure any highschooler or script can handle his job of synthesizing data from experts to solve company-specific problems. Those doesn't take any brain power & highly automatable. That's why these companies hire high schoolers all the time haha.

  • @msmiami212
    @msmiami212 Před 5 měsíci +521

    The apartment joke was a deeply irresponsible and hilarious thing to say. The cut back to Dan was so funny 😂😂😂

    • @clawsoon
      @clawsoon Před 3 měsíci +16

      Sounded like the guy learned how to relate to people from a book by a failed pickup artist.

  • @jedics1
    @jedics1 Před 5 měsíci +350

    Welcome to the meaning void that fills our society...."I want a job that pays as much as possible while contributing as little as possible with no responsibility". No midlife crisis emergencies here.

    • @mikeguidry2577
      @mikeguidry2577 Před 4 měsíci +11

      You prob don't get the grind of what consultants do to get that cushy salary. I'm not a consultant, but it sucks. I made it to final round interviews with McKinsey and BCG. They work 60 to 65 hour weeks and are traveling often thousand mile flights every single week living 4 days a week in a hotel. So they spend 200 out of 365 days a year in a hotel. That 60 to 65 hours is just work time if you add on travel or time away from home it's much more. Post MBA you go in as an associate which is 2nd level up from bottom, analyst. Most post MBA do not get promoted from associate either because they can't stand that much work and travel or they aren't considered good enough for promotion. There's limited spots at VP+ and more associates than roles open there.

    • @mikeguidry2577
      @mikeguidry2577 Před 4 měsíci +14

      At the end of the day, they may not actually make a difference or contribute anything, but their job still sucks ass with the hours spent on work and out of home.

    • @nomms
      @nomms Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@mikeguidry2577The point of consulting is not to work at a consulting agency. It's to become an associate then get hired as an exec at a major company.
      Man I really dislike corpos

    • @mandela7147
      @mandela7147 Před 4 měsíci +22

      ​@mikeguidry2577 so all the downsides, included midlife crisis but it probably ends with suicide instead of cringe?

    • @litkeys3497
      @litkeys3497 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@mikeguidry2577the travel is increasingly a non-factor thanks to remote work. From 2019-23, BCG cut business flights by 40%, McKinsey cut by 48%, PWC by 76% and Deloitte by 81%. Even Bain cut by 26%. Long hours still suck, but it is simply not the grind it used to be

  • @theOtherNism
    @theOtherNism Před 5 měsíci +1569

    If there's anything this world needs, it's more people who are good at pretending they know what they're talking about.
    I was kind of shocked how open they were about that, actually.

    • @flarebear5346
      @flarebear5346 Před 5 měsíci +229

      These types of people are sometimes very honest. They want to do something and can acknowledge that it's a ridiculous system. I don't even blame them tbh. They are just playing the game

    • @tagguh1
      @tagguh1 Před 5 měsíci +160

      They don't have a stake to lie yet, once they're in a company that will change lol as it'll be tied to their salary.

    • @minch5537
      @minch5537 Před 5 měsíci +124

      @@tagguh1 This is it. I went to one of these schools and everyone knows it's a load of crap. If you're a public facing figure like a CEO though you'll never admit the truth.

    • @stratomaster891
      @stratomaster891 Před 4 měsíci +7

      If they were actually good at pretending they know what they’re talking about they wouldn’t need an mba lol

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 Před 4 měsíci +28

      They know it's all bullshit, give them a couple years w/ a cushy salary and some media training and they'll never admit it again on camera.

  • @NCISfreak123
    @NCISfreak123 Před 5 měsíci +662

    That ethics professor seems like the GOAT. Digging at the YT channel was so brilliant off the cuff

  • @strauss7151
    @strauss7151 Před 4 měsíci +367

    I did my undergrad in mechanical engineering. I dropped out of business school after one semester and started my own business. Everything they 'teach' is just common sense.

    • @Thekrzysiek52
      @Thekrzysiek52 Před 4 měsíci +71

      But if you want corprate possition you need this pice of paper just so you can show that you have common sense.

    • @manthoo7271
      @manthoo7271 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@Thekrzysiek52 🤣

    • @mikeguidry2577
      @mikeguidry2577 Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@Thekrzysiek52 The hardest part of a top 10 MBA is getting admitted which Darden isn't top 10, it's like 12. I went to MIT Sloan full time MBA. It is mostly common sense stuff. The only thing that wasn't is financial modeling and accounting. I agree that companies shouldn't look at a top 10 MBA student and think he prob learned so much there that he'll be an asset. It should be more like if he was good enough based on undergrad gpa, major, school, and test scores to get into this top 10 MBA then he'll be good enough here.

    • @orwellsegui8004
      @orwellsegui8004 Před 4 měsíci

      Nice Pic. It’s 150 anniversary of Caspar David Friedrich. So come over to Greifswald/Germany 😎

    • @orwellsegui8004
      @orwellsegui8004 Před 4 měsíci

      Nice Pic. It’s 150 anniversary of Caspar David Friedrich. So come over to Greifswald/Germany 😎

  • @19MAD95
    @19MAD95 Před 5 měsíci +75

    That’s hotel suicide joke was unreal

  • @mogulmayhem
    @mogulmayhem Před 5 měsíci +325

    If I've learned anything from my MBA friends (Harvard, Ross, Stanford, etc) it's that they aren't your friends unless you make them money.

    • @stratomaster891
      @stratomaster891 Před 4 měsíci +55

      Imagine needing school to teach you how to be a psychopath😂

    • @fudgen.a1249
      @fudgen.a1249 Před 4 měsíci +18

      @@stratomaster891Not an ordinary psychopath, but a money grubbing one!

    • @itsirrelevant4565
      @itsirrelevant4565 Před 4 měsíci +11

      My uncles Ivy League wife & kids walked off with all of the money from my family’s land here recently. Never met them before a year ago and they never even bothered to ask how I made it to 30 without a dad, or a college degree. Wealthy people are sick.

    • @ramadjones
      @ramadjones Před měsícem

      Soooo... what you're saying is that you're good at making money for your friends. I would love for you to be my friend. First drink is on me! :)

    • @user-nq8vm2iv9v
      @user-nq8vm2iv9v Před měsícem

      Where Anarchists come from.

  • @cancerino666
    @cancerino666 Před 5 měsíci +1727

    How can we make kindergarden for rich adult-children sounds fancy, intellectual, and later justify the well-paid jobs their friends and family will help them get?
    America said MBA.

    • @janaerowe3070
      @janaerowe3070 Před 5 měsíci +41

      Roasted. Well-said.

    • @RGatGala
      @RGatGala Před 5 měsíci +72

      True, but Europe is seemingly even worse in terms of credentialism. Everyone has 5 advanced degrees over there.

    • @louisdbt9096
      @louisdbt9096 Před 5 měsíci +43

      @@RGatGala From a french - it's true. I have a master's with a gap year, 3 years of prof. xp (interships etc) before even entering the job market and it's the norm

    • @RGatGala
      @RGatGala Před 5 měsíci

      Nothing wrong with it, especially when you don't have to go into debt for it. Plus, education can be wonderful from just a life experience point of view. But in the labor market there are often too many delusions about credentials (disregarding medicine, hardcore science stuff, engineering, etc.)@@louisdbt9096

    • @Mandelbomb
      @Mandelbomb Před 5 měsíci +7

      The Coldplay guy killed me.

  • @randrothify
    @randrothify Před 4 měsíci +44

    "Never give a definitive answer because then you’ll be held accountable for it“. I’m confused. Are these people learning how to run businesses or how to become politicians. Oh right, they aspire to be consultants so kind of the same thing.

  • @sudowtf
    @sudowtf Před 5 měsíci +231

    As someone with a marketing degree, the statement “Marketeers are dumb” certainly is true. That degree takes NO effort to get. The hardest thing is remembering the countless, useless terms you need to write down for your exams.
    Also, if you do not like abbreviations, do NOT get into marketing. Apparently marketeers love shortening things

    • @deepam5246
      @deepam5246 Před 5 měsíci +7

      It’s because less is more!

    • @urip_zukoharjo
      @urip_zukoharjo Před 5 měsíci +33

      Marketing is just one of those skills you get on the experience, not from sitting down listening to lectures all day long
      coming from a regretted marketing grad😂😭🫡

    • @cindymora6714
      @cindymora6714 Před 4 měsíci

      So true 😂 I always end searching for an acronym meaning after talk with a marketer

    • @sudowtf
      @sudowtf Před 4 měsíci

      @@deepam5246 It’s because marketeers are soulless people who will do anything to give themselves a sort of prestige because they lack any commonly given respect in the professional business world. Give your lingo loads of abbreviations is one way to sound really cool. Do you know Howard abbreviations, matrixes and concepts like them I had to learn that turned out to be utterly useless in the real world? Marketing is a very sad business, if you could even call it that

    • @sudowtf
      @sudowtf Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@urip_zukoharjo Couldn’t agree more but I wouldn’t call it a skill necessarily. I think anybody can learn marketing and be good at it. It’s not a skill and, if it would be, not a hard one to master

  • @cyhx
    @cyhx Před 5 měsíci +586

    Professors in business schools look like mid-century philosophers while their students look like they'll appear on the front page of a millenial youth magazine

    • @aeoligarlic4024
      @aeoligarlic4024 Před 5 měsíci +76

      Forbes 30 under 30, pipeline to jail

    • @AeroGold1
      @AeroGold1 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@aeoligarlic4024dont forget about the a documentary series produced by Hulu/Netflix/Apple about your fraudent business practices, followed by your subsequent SEC investigation.

    • @wackrapsatire
      @wackrapsatire Před 4 měsíci

      when mom and dad weren´t present to raise a child thats loved and accepted the way it is instead leaving a walking body as hollow as swiss cheese. Poor souls, empty gaps filled with dollar bills@@aeoligarlic4024

    • @doomdoctor6380
      @doomdoctor6380 Před měsícem +1

      The marx looking dude has a doctorate in philosophy lol

    • @tahminhassan9115
      @tahminhassan9115 Před měsícem +1

      Bc the proffesors didn’t go into consulting

  • @The_Muffin101
    @The_Muffin101 Před 5 měsíci +274

    Ok but is no one else going to question that one guy was a psychologist, magician, business professor and author. How did that happen!

    • @lr7815
      @lr7815 Před 5 měsíci +113

      He went to business school

    • @samuelglover7685
      @samuelglover7685 Před 5 měsíci +56

      Don't know if it's related, but the guy's got the look of an aspiring cult leader....

    • @The_Muffin101
      @The_Muffin101 Před 5 měsíci +17

      @@samuelglover7685 I agree something seems really off about the guy😂

    • @The_Muffin101
      @The_Muffin101 Před 5 měsíci

      @@lr7815 and then specialized in magician consulting 🙂

    • @msmiami212
      @msmiami212 Před 5 měsíci +32

      That’s a single career switch and 2 hobbies. Believe in yourself.

  • @shovellware
    @shovellware Před 4 měsíci +49

    "Went to class, it started at 10, I was late as usual - 10:10... 10 minutes late." love this

    • @AngelaVlahos
      @AngelaVlahos Před 10 dny

      I was so lost after graduating college. what do I do with a college degree? I travelled when I could. now I do healthcare.

  • @TheJamonLance
    @TheJamonLance Před 4 měsíci +22

    As a former consultant with an mba who pivoted into product roles in tech:
    1) Consulting is just glorified outsourcing
    2) The reasons to do an Mba are: prestige, knowledge and network.
    2.1) You can get the prestige by starting your own business or side business
    2.2) You can get the knowledge on the internet
    2.3) You can get the network in consulting
    3) to pivot careers you don't need an mba
    4) Full time MBA are kind of holidays, executive ones are more valued with better network
    5) Tech pays better than consulting
    6) You don't need an MBA to own a business, which remains the most profitable option

  • @cahdoge
    @cahdoge Před 5 měsíci +514

    I love, that you always get at least one interview partner to roast you.

  • @assburgers3457
    @assburgers3457 Před 5 měsíci +309

    What I learned: consultants are liabilities and will only give you vague, unhelpful, and unreliable answers. Time to never hire a consultant

    • @vanguard6937
      @vanguard6937 Před 5 měsíci +87

      That's why consultants are great. They will give you a presentation on exactly what you pay them for which conveniently is what you already decided to do, but didn't want to take accountability for

    • @joshwarrey3728
      @joshwarrey3728 Před 5 měsíci +24

      If I were running a business, I'd consult an expert in the field, not someone who calls themselves consultant.

    • @gaeig
      @gaeig Před 4 měsíci

      @@joshwarrey3728 such a smart businesshero omg

    • @phillystevesteak6982
      @phillystevesteak6982 Před 4 měsíci

      So its a way to make you feel more confident about the decisions you were going to make anyway. Gotcha. Well, not totally useless then @@vanguard6937

    • @resa574
      @resa574 Před 4 měsíci

      @@joshwarrey3728they’re used as scapegoats
      You can make a risky decision and blame the fallout on a consulting firm

  • @tora0neko
    @tora0neko Před 4 měsíci +77

    I can't believe you interviewed karl marx himself

  • @starpupilz
    @starpupilz Před 5 měsíci +110

    “Fuck up some commas on the travel budget” was a god tier line

    • @ryangosha644
      @ryangosha644 Před 4 měsíci

      Classical, it had me in stitches, had to pause the video

  • @Staringathesun
    @Staringathesun Před 5 měsíci +212

    Ed Freeman out here pulling no punches, goddamn.

  • @braidans4767
    @braidans4767 Před 5 měsíci +464

    Here’s how you know your company has hired a consultant. They start doing really dumb shit and laying off employees they actually need. If these people knew how to run a business then they would run a business but they don’t know shit but how to trick rich people into listening to them.

    • @CupGuyDude12
      @CupGuyDude12 Před 5 měsíci +87

      and “how to give answers even if you don’t know what the answer is but also to convince them to listen to you”

    • @anastasiaekimova5101
      @anastasiaekimova5101 Před 5 měsíci +46

      I mean maybe that wanted to lay off employees etc, but hired a consultant firm to blame them for falling off

    • @zkcrisyee
      @zkcrisyee Před 5 měsíci +17

      So did Elon somehow venture into consulting for while when he acquired Twitter? Doing really dumb shit, laying off employees they actually needed, and the value of the company plummeting 60% of its value quite rapidly. Checks all the boxes.

    • @Kleinage
      @Kleinage Před 5 měsíci +23

      @@zkcrisyeeproblem is he already was a Twitter consultant in his mind, so when he became boss, he implemented all his ‘really good cost saving money making ideas’ 🤮

    • @kenlandon6130
      @kenlandon6130 Před 4 měsíci

      @@anastasiaekimova5101 This is more common.

  • @tombrown407
    @tombrown407 Před 4 měsíci +27

    This is unironically the best youtube channel I've stumbled across in years.
    Bravo sir.

  • @Gangmu1920
    @Gangmu1920 Před 5 měsíci +99

    All your content since “What does a consultant do?” has been 10/10. Always fun to watch. Keep up the good work. 😉

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Před 5 měsíci +159

    Quote of the Day: “Fun is relative.”

  • @etrestre9403
    @etrestre9403 Před 5 měsíci +232

    the occasional Hiroshi

    • @erm12341
      @erm12341 Před 5 měsíci +26

      lol that comment was wild

  • @imsleepy620
    @imsleepy620 Před 2 měsíci +8

    can't wait until the consultants have their own consultants to consult with about their consulting

  • @jivermesilver9925
    @jivermesilver9925 Před 5 měsíci +58

    Every single time I watch one of these videos, I just say "What a good video"
    Love the work, will not call it content because it does not feel lazy, I truly appreciate the work put into them and can't wait for more

    • @notsojharedtroll23
      @notsojharedtroll23 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Well, to their credit, the channel is named as "good work" so yeah.

  • @xxrkg8437
    @xxrkg8437 Před 5 měsíci +262

    Bro is dressed like a 1950s detective

    • @PokhrajRoy.
      @PokhrajRoy. Před 5 měsíci +31

      It’s very Columbocore

    • @ballisticbread
      @ballisticbread Před 5 měsíci +18

      You must be new here.

    • @TaoJohn
      @TaoJohn Před 5 měsíci +5

      Same comment on all of the videos on this channel.

    • @TaoJohn
      @TaoJohn Před 5 měsíci +3

      Also this. All videos.

    • @aldren707
      @aldren707 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Cool drip ngl

  • @Madbird95
    @Madbird95 Před 5 měsíci +173

    Ed Freeman is hilarious! He looked like a ton of fun to interview.

  • @eusouluizgustavo
    @eusouluizgustavo Před 4 měsíci +133

    This is pure gold. Dan can critique MBA programs with a perfect blend of humor, a spot-on balance, and a touch of witty seriousness that gives us a delightful dissonance. It navigates between insightful commentary and a humoristic, serious journalism vibe, striking the perfect chord of wit and wisdom without descending into rudeness or nonsense. 10/10

  • @adityasuryavanshi3687
    @adityasuryavanshi3687 Před 4 měsíci +92

    As someone who got fired yesterday, I'm planning to do an MBA. This is very helpful and funny.

  • @alexlieberman8321
    @alexlieberman8321 Před 5 měsíci +102

    I will forever use the phrase corporate larvae thanks to you.

  • @LJinx3
    @LJinx3 Před 5 měsíci +44

    I used to be a consultant with one of the big 4 and imo there are two types of consultant - those who roll up their sleeves and get shut done and those who manage. The latter are the useless ones, but they are also the more likely to get promoted.

  • @lstranathan
    @lstranathan Před 4 měsíci +31

    I had an Accounting professor for 3 different classes who is a version of Ed Freeman. You're gonna learn a hell of a lot more from professors like that than from the rest of them.

  • @good-tn9sr
    @good-tn9sr Před 5 měsíci +151

    Do one on Computer Science and Tech majors. Too many people and not enough jobs. The amount of knowledge and skills you need for an entry level job keeps increasing because of all those online best major rank listings. It’s getting suppressed by the news and tech companies because the more CS majors there are, the less they have to pay. And we just got a few thousand layoffs announced just this past week for software engineers/devs

    • @bigmouthprick5852
      @bigmouthprick5852 Před 5 měsíci +6

      I wanna know why I see the BLS outlook for Software Development careers growing and why these numbers are wrong

    • @dannyn.6933
      @dannyn.6933 Před 5 měsíci

      @@bigmouthprick5852Demand changes, supply changes. Right now, demand is lower and supply is higher than ever.
      Demand - IRS tax laws and high interest rates have made hiring less desirable.
      Supply - A generation of zoomers were told by influencers that you can get a six figure job while doing minimal work after graduation. So now you have a massive supply of graduates. Many of whom are not smart, didn’t go to prestigious schools, and are pretty much screwed and have to get a job not related to their field of study.

    • @Chill_Pills
      @Chill_Pills Před 5 měsíci +7

      Yeah but that is true of all college jobs. At least every engineering field. I graduated in 2007 and salaries are basically the same today as they were then. There are just so many people out there with these degrees now.

    • @good-tn9sr
      @good-tn9sr Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@bigmouthprick5852 true for engineering it’s hard. But software is even worse. I have friends who haven’t found decent paying jobs for over a year. Companies are outsourcing work to other countries for low wages.

    • @elucified
      @elucified Před 5 měsíci +9

      This this this!!! And like a whole series dedicated to the absolutely stupid shit coming out of Silicon Valley. Like every tech bro and their roommate building something that essentially is really expensive piece of nothing.

  • @SkylorBeck
    @SkylorBeck Před 5 měsíci +14

    "Fun is relative" I like her

  • @elahem6940
    @elahem6940 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Listening to this at my accounting job... glad to see I'm not the only person wasting my life

    • @VelocitrapLords
      @VelocitrapLords Před 4 měsíci +1

      Starting a MAcc in March and feel like the algo is really throwing some heaters at me

  • @scoobydont
    @scoobydont Před 4 měsíci +28

    9:38 Absolutely losing it at Dan's "and that's a crisis" and Adam Grant's response lmao

    • @DMasterChifu
      @DMasterChifu Před 2 měsíci +2

      I BURST OUT LAUGHING. I'm in my office.

    • @coleyblossoms1051
      @coleyblossoms1051 Před měsícem +2

      How did he keep a straight face through that I'm dying 😭

  • @dengernoodle4391
    @dengernoodle4391 Před 5 měsíci +175

    These students aren't learning good lessons, but they are learning the right lessons

  • @lucasballestin9085
    @lucasballestin9085 Před 5 měsíci +46

    God I love the business ethics prof

    • @Zionswasd
      @Zionswasd Před 4 měsíci +1

      He's at least self-aware its all a huge scam/garbage fire.

  • @Sam-cd9jz
    @Sam-cd9jz Před 5 měsíci +45

    I worked at the gym these students go to for the most part. I can confirm they're all exactly the same.
    Professor Freeman is an absolute baller at Handball, btw

  • @UnschoolingCOM
    @UnschoolingCOM Před 4 měsíci +11

    “If education doesn’t solve a problem, then it is a problem; If the educated do not solve problems, then they are the problems.” ~ Ernest Agyemang Yeboah

  • @jamesscouten2966
    @jamesscouten2966 Před 5 měsíci +97

    This is a local exercise shop where business students go to learn how to run from the SEC 😂😂😂😂😂
    Top 5 all time lines

  • @Gailon1000
    @Gailon1000 Před 5 měsíci +109

    This is definitely one of the best channels on this platform. Great content!

  • @khalidalali186
    @khalidalali186 Před 4 měsíci +185

    As someone with a PhD. I can’t stress enough how unbelievably overrated university degrees are.

    • @jeffreythomson3789
      @jeffreythomson3789 Před 4 měsíci +21

      In what way do you mean?
      If you're referring to the fact that while most jobs require a degree as a barrier to entry the degree isn't necessary to do the job, I would mostly agree. Most jobs don't really utilize the things you learn in school and many jobs now require degrees they didn't 30 years ago, without the job changing by any significant manner - a phenomenon an Atlantic writer called something like credential inflation.
      If you mean that getting a university degree isn't worth it, the data on that is very much clear that it is. In terms of job prospects and lifetime earnings, university degrees are extremely valuable and one of the biggest determining factors of whatever upward mobility is still possible these days.
      Of course that is for undergraduate degrees, not graduate degrees. And how valuable an Ivy League degree is over any degree, such as from a state school, and whether it's actually the degree or the connections you make, is much more contested and demographically specific.

    • @Catwomen4512
      @Catwomen4512 Před 4 měsíci +8

      Depends on the degree

    • @capnmnemo
      @capnmnemo Před 4 měsíci +15

      @@Catwomen4512 It is all a matter of degrees.

    • @xblade11230
      @xblade11230 Před 4 měsíci +6

      ​@capnmnemo even professional degrees like engineer, nurse, doctor or lawyer?
      Pretty sure for these you actually use what you learned

    • @youMatterItDoesGetBetter
      @youMatterItDoesGetBetter Před 4 měsíci +1

      It's just a piece of paper to check off a box for HR. Make that $$$ with that paper slip.

  • @LokiBeckonswow
    @LokiBeckonswow Před 5 měsíci +29

    this video was really next level, I don't know how but you made this topic kick ass - pls everyone give this channel money so they can continue their epic good work

  • @jsevakis
    @jsevakis Před 5 měsíci +173

    Dan Toomey x Scott Galloway is the team-up I didn’t know I needed

    • @MariaPetrovaNYC
      @MariaPetrovaNYC Před 5 měsíci +4

      +1

    • @mmcewen9789
      @mmcewen9789 Před 5 měsíci +10

      A reverse Prof G Podcast where Dan hosts and Scott is the guest would be epic.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Před 5 měsíci +334

    Business School Students: “You got into Business School?”
    Dan: “What? Like, it’s hard?”

    • @monxx15
      @monxx15 Před 4 měsíci +3

      really depends on the business school tbf. Yea if we're talking University of Virginia, its probably pretty easy. Try getting in LSE or Bocconi however and you'll quickly find its not as easy as you'd think

  • @FriendlyYoda
    @FriendlyYoda Před 5 měsíci +38

    Ironically, I’ve just started considering an MBA or doing a specialised masters in my tech field. Sooooo glad I saw this. Thanks Dan, wouldn’t wanna end up in consulting, eh?

  • @zherkezhi
    @zherkezhi Před 23 dny +2

    My business is givin’ you the business.
    And business is boomin’.

  • @bbrbbr-on2gd
    @bbrbbr-on2gd Před 5 měsíci +39

    Can we get a team of consultants to set up a meeting, to discuss when to set the presentation for the next meeting?

  • @TheLegoPerson
    @TheLegoPerson Před 5 měsíci +40

    This is one of your best videos yet, I could have watched another ten minutes of this! Great interviewees this time around, too

  • @nickelbutt
    @nickelbutt Před 4 měsíci +5

    “Consulting” is about convincing businesses to abuse workers rights for the sake of profit.

  • @tens0r884
    @tens0r884 Před 2 měsíci +10

    no way bro really found Karl Marx in a business school

  • @kylev1228
    @kylev1228 Před 5 měsíci +8

    You are one of the few creators that I genuinely stop whatever I'm doing to watch!

  • @stevebuscemi4185
    @stevebuscemi4185 Před 5 měsíci +33

    That business ethics guy is so funny

  • @samuelglover7685
    @samuelglover7685 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Never ever forget that George W "The Lesser" Bush was our first MBA president. He truly set the standard.

  • @wetwillyis_1881
    @wetwillyis_1881 Před 4 měsíci +36

    As a fellow person who started taking classes at my university’s business school, to become a consultant, I’m glad to see I’m not alone.

  • @cbboiii1100
    @cbboiii1100 Před 5 měsíci +44

    I read on reddit how someone was defining consulting. She was like we talk in a meeting about a bunch of things then go to another meeting to talk about what you just talked about in the last meeting. And get paid like $300k/yr doing it. I wish I was smarter

    • @xblade11230
      @xblade11230 Před 4 měsíci

      They aren't smarter they were just born rich and well connected
      Consulting is basically just a fake job where you do a couple hours of work a week instead of a full 40 hours and get paid absurd amounts of money for it , it's a giant scheme for rich executives to give fake jobs to their rich children
      Manhattan is full of these do nothing rich kids who work as consultants

  • @scottgalloway2421
    @scottgalloway2421 Před 5 měsíci +38

    Love Dan Toomey. True story, tried to hire him.

    • @morning-brew
      @morning-brew Před 5 měsíci +1

      We keep trying to fire him but he won't leave.

    • @MustraOrdo
      @MustraOrdo Před 5 měsíci +7

      Oh dang, it's the Sultan himself.

  • @JanRademan
    @JanRademan Před 5 měsíci +14

    Who'd have thought that teaching about business would turn into a business.

  • @grantwallace365
    @grantwallace365 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I never comment on videos, but your sense of humor combined with some actual education is wonderful. Thank you for continuing to make these awesome videos! ❤

  • @TheFunnyEagle
    @TheFunnyEagle Před 5 měsíci +25

    I work at a top 3 PWM/IB Firm and got to say, you are on point with so much. Love your work, your humor is on point. Never stop

    • @customjuices
      @customjuices Před 4 měsíci

      For those who don't know the acronyms?

    • @jaylam55
      @jaylam55 Před 4 měsíci

      @@customjuicesPWM = Private Wealth Management and IB = Investment Banking. Different type of finance jobs.

    • @sithlordbinks
      @sithlordbinks Před 4 měsíci

      Private wealth management / investment banking. Basically pandering to rich fucks and making them stupid money so that their generational wealth can terrorize us all forever.@@customjuices

  • @sohambanerjee417
    @sohambanerjee417 Před 5 měsíci +31

    These videos are brilliant. You truly have one of the best CZcams channels around

  • @himike3278
    @himike3278 Před 4 měsíci +26

    Awesome that you got to interview those professors. Definitely need the full interviews! I remember watching Freeman's videos in business school...can't believe he's like this in real life haha

  • @wolfganglauth4015
    @wolfganglauth4015 Před 4 měsíci +2

    The genius of these videos cannot be overstated. Literally perfect

  • @ds2disciple
    @ds2disciple Před 5 měsíci +8

    This is the most important channel on CZcams

  • @kenlandon6130
    @kenlandon6130 Před 4 měsíci +6

    This channel is a godsend.

  • @Emily-kj1tb
    @Emily-kj1tb Před 4 měsíci

    This is possibly my favourite channel, please don't stop ever!

  • @dmo2189
    @dmo2189 Před 4 měsíci +2

    As a consultant applying to business school, I'm happy you uploaded this!

  • @TommyjojoJake
    @TommyjojoJake Před 4 měsíci +4

    Can’t believe I just stumbled upon this channel. You rock, sir.

  • @davidwang6335
    @davidwang6335 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Just wanted to say thanks for the “good work” out there. This is really reminding me of the Daily Show in its Heyday (but with even better Journalism of course)

  • @xelefonte
    @xelefonte Před 4 měsíci +45

    I remember I got accepted to UC Riverside MBA program. And it seemed like they wanted me more than I wanted them especially considering I had a 2.8 GPA in my undergrad in civil engineering and my GRE scores were average. I even wrote some fake recommendation letters to see if I could get in but I put in little effort in those letters. They were sloppy. Days later, I got an acceptance letter. They further tried to entice me by saying UC Riverside MBA program’s connection UCLA MBA’s program. After seeing the minimum $80K of student loan debt I would amass in 3 years at UC Riverside, I declined. I chose San Diego State’s master program in engineering. It cost me nothing after financial aid. Glad I made that decision. A UC Riverside MBA degree would’ve been worthless and I would’ve been sitting on over $100K in student debt. I see why these business schools love to accept underqualified students into their program. They don’t care if you graduate or not. They just care about making money off each student even it ruins his or her young life.

  • @chrisfoo9195
    @chrisfoo9195 Před 5 měsíci +3

    one of your best vids yet. keep up the GOOD WORK

  • @shpluk
    @shpluk Před 4 měsíci +4

    I'd looooove to see the full interviews with the professors
    Great video, thank you

  • @dionysus1394
    @dionysus1394 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I say this wholly understanding my comment will be drowned, but suddenly finding and clicking on this video was the best decision I made today. You a are phenomenal CZcamsr and this video was both hilarious and concerning, easiest subscribe of the new year

  • @jaydeejooks3398
    @jaydeejooks3398 Před 5 měsíci +2

    You are the GOAT of what ever style you tube this is

  • @evolvo1
    @evolvo1 Před 5 měsíci +45

    Take it from someone with didn't go to one of the top schools with an MBA, it's definitely not worth it. I've even started to leave it off of my resume.

    • @xblade11230
      @xblade11230 Před 4 měsíci

      MBA are for rich kids who have rich parents, so that their parents can justify paying absurd salaries to basically young kids with no experience to do basically nothing
      They basically spend all day working out, playing tennis and maybe once a week attend a meeting where they pull out a PowerPoint and bullshit
      Then they collect their 100k->200k salaries
      Many of these consultants live in places like NYC the playground of the rich
      And these leeches basically do nothing all day, you can see them milling around in Manhattan all day. Seemingly never working

    • @akadaafrica5841
      @akadaafrica5841 Před 4 měsíci

      Why wasn't it worth it? #curious. Was it because it wasn't a top school?

    • @xblade11230
      @xblade11230 Před 4 měsíci

      @akadaafrica5841 probably because the MBA is worthless, it's only useful if you have rich parents who can use their connections to get you a bullshit job that requires 2 hours of work a week and nets a 200k salary
      Dumb idiots will fall for the scam, the average salary, median salary is extremely misleading

    • @mikeguidry2577
      @mikeguidry2577 Před 4 měsíci

      @@akadaafrica5841 Yes, people who are hiring MBA's are 100% deciding whether you're hirable or not based on the name of the school on the resume. I went to MIT Sloan full time MBA and getting a call back on a resume or response happens pretty easily.

  • @MissMCwuffles
    @MissMCwuffles Před 5 měsíci +45

    As a UVA alumni, my most memorable encounter with a Business Major student was when I saw one of them steal a drink from the dumpling truck. We made eye contact. He knew what he was doing was wrong.

    • @BBoPPo88
      @BBoPPo88 Před 5 měsíci +13

      comm school kid fully decked out in patagonia stealing from got dumps is gold

  • @TheOneWhoIsTheTwo
    @TheOneWhoIsTheTwo Před 4 měsíci +1

    This channel has only gotten better with time. Another fantastic video

  • @alexh1701
    @alexh1701 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Its actually wild how big the difference betwees European business schools and American ones are

  • @nishkarshjakhar
    @nishkarshjakhar Před 5 měsíci +27

    11:35 to 12:15 is a fantastic explanation for why the MBA makes sense for the corporations.

    • @xblade11230
      @xblade11230 Před 4 měsíci +2

      The corporate executives use MBA consultants as shields, when they screw up blame they blame the consultant, if it succeeds take credit for it.
      And most Rich executives know how the game is played , and that consultants are rich well connected kids who do nothing all day and pull 6 figure salaries. Thir own loser kids will also become future consultants and their rich exec friends will hire them

  • @RakeanRadya
    @RakeanRadya Před 5 měsíci +10

    I'm not kidding this has gotta be one of your best episodes 👌

  • @The-Untitled-One
    @The-Untitled-One Před 5 měsíci +2

    This is evolution of content guys. This is how you evolve your channel. New categories of content.

  • @UnBR0k3enAngel
    @UnBR0k3enAngel Před 3 měsíci +1

    First video of yours I watched....had to pause MULTIPLE times to just stitch myself together at how well your jokes fit into the script....amazing

  • @kevindanielpg
    @kevindanielpg Před 5 měsíci +14

    Bro your work audiovisually, editing wise, comically and of course: INFORMATIVE, it's top notch, congrats for real a keep it up