Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder...and BEHOLD!! It is bad ass and a GREAT looking set of wheels John! You are lucky to be able to get out and ride this season....Stay safe! Another excellent review!
Great couple of videos there. I switch to a Clark tank on my RM 250 (when running hare scrambles) with fuel tank foam to control the sloshing effect, I also used a heat gun to ever so slightly massage the tank for my Scotts steering stabilizer. Your bike looks sharp !
We can always count on you to “trail test” these new products! Lol I had a good laugh when you tipped over the other way. Another great video John. Much appreciated as always.
JT, thanks for leaving the crashes in and taking one for the team! We have all done exactly that same move. Great info on your review. Its like you are in the same room fielding the questions as they pop up in my mind.
Hi John, great set up, keep it as it is. I have recently bought the MST rally kit for my CRF 450L that I had planned long time before..... Mate, I have never seen such a terrible job. I will probably make a video about it, there is no single part that would fit. You have to drill, bend, cut, .... almost everything.....
Great videos mate. Love your sense of humour and attention to detail. Got me thinking about upgrading from a 250 rally to one of these as my next bike.
When I saw the tank before you put it on, I thought it was going to be butt ugly. But installed & with the decals, it looks fine. I think the decals help a lot - makes it look like it came from the factory that way. If I buy the CRF450L, I will install all the same add-ons you chose. You should get a sales commission for all the products that people like me will buy because of your videos.
Are you able to remove the fuel pump and extend the pickup tube? Push the 2 pickups way down into the bottom corners with finger strains on them. As well, to prevent dirt from getting into the fuel tank corners, a fuel sock in the neck of the tank might help.
@@DansADV I've carried Fuel Friends 2L for a while now and rarely used them. Figured I'd move that weight to the front of the bike instead of hanging off the back of the bike.
Cool video its been so hot in California its been hard to get out and ride 😓 thanks for the info on the trip screen to check fuel usage. I think the natural ims tank is for me .ride safe !!! Keep the videos coming.
Thanks for the video I’ve been looking for a bigger tank I couldn’t see going just 1 gallon bigger and I couldn’t find this tank anywhere until here so I probably will be getting one soon
Dang! My ims tank arrived last week and then I find out about the Nomad the day after. I’m planning on doing the Washington BDR Labor Day weekend and it would be great to have that extra gas. Well, as it is I will have to do with the Moscow Moto 40l that arrived yesterday with the 2 extra 1 liter add ons. That should allow me to carry an extra 4 bottle or 1 gallon. Over 2000 mi Les oN the cry and loving it. Thanks for the informative videos.
Installed mine for the Westen half of the TAT same thing dumped it a few times no damage. I went with the clear- ugly as sin but always knew how much fuel I had. Great for the 200 mile stretches between fuel stops.
Great info. Thanks for sharing. I would purchase one as a back up for that occasional long distance trip. I'll stay with the stock tank, on the CRF, since my riding is within the mileage to a gas station.
So far the Rekluse has been awesome. Except when it hasn't. There ya go Jono! LOL. Thanks for the feedback and I will try to get something together for ya.
@@JohnTYoung 😅 im interested in the when not good times 🤔 I finally bit the bullet and got one and yet to fit it... I'll be watching your vid again to refresh 👌👍 Thanks John much appreciated 😊
Great review John, looks a lot better in black and with the graphics. I'd only seen the clear tank and thought it looked a bit chunky. Does your tank bag still fit?
Thank you for sharing the good informations. I must say that the nomad would be better with specific fuel pumps but it would cost much more. Anyway the bikes looks nice with the black tank even if I prefer the IMS (because it was looking more like the standard bike) 13:2514:17 that's when you're happy not riding a Africa Twin :D (I used to ride a Super Tenere and now I ride a WR450 so I know lol)
Hey John! Love your videos. What is your Mic setup? I noticed you have the mic attachment on the helmet go pro, what lapel setup are you using? My audio is always "windy"
Thanks for the review. It reminds me of a KLX250/351 I have with a 3.7 gallon Acerbis tank. (Actually it holds about 4.1). On the highway when I run out of gas I park it in gear, come to the front of the bike, crank the bars all the way over and lift up the front end in a wheelie and then rock it a bit up there. First "wheelie" gets me another 15KM, the 2nd wheelie another 4KM, the 3rd about 2KM and then about 1/2 a mile. My big concern on the Honda would be I used to push my KTM 690 till it ran out of gas and so often just doing that once killed the fuel pump.
John, thanks for this channel and all the content for this bike and answering all the questions you get! I had my first real world experience with my Nomad 20L and scuffed it pretty good on a rock. Knock on plastic...do you carry anything to patch yours in the event of a puncture? (special epoxy? radiator hose tape? etc - what works?). Also, I have the same setup as you using the short overflow tube and check valve. My tank leaked through the cap when I dropped it. I can tighten the cap fairly snug, but if I push it too far it pops off, ie. threads let go. Have you had the same experience or does this sound defective?
As usual absolutely nice vid even if the lizard is not very attentive. Thank you so much ! I really appreciate how you turn this bike, pretty bad ass ;) My dude question is : what about Hood Tank Bag, does it fit anymore ?
Range anxiety is a big deal for me. I will be changing the stock tank after the ECU, Pipe. Since I have to take the tank off to put the new ECU in maybe I’ll do a twofer
Great follow up to part 1. Thought you answered all the questions, I always have unanswered questions (in my mind anyway). Q1, How much fuel is left/used when the low fuel light starts coming on? Q2, When you did the 1 gallon fuel trial, how much fuel was in the fuel pump reservoir rather than in the wings? It may give a misleading indication on how easy it is or at what point it is hard to get the fuel out of the wings. Q4, You mention that for the last 2 litres you need to be prepared for how you are going to get it in the pump reservoir, but also that you haven't ridden in the dirt with less than 2 gallons in it. In your experience, would the fuel from 2 gallons to 2 litres move from wings to pump without conscious intervention in on and off throttle dirt riding? Q5, Did the radiator guard bend at the lower mount point going to the frame hence the bigger washers and did it do anything to the radiator? The guard didn't look bent! Last Q6, Does the thermo fan come on more with the nomad radiator guards compared to the standard ones. Keep up the good work, and good to see the fall overs, I can relate to them all to well. As long as we keep getting up.🙂
That's a lot of questions I failed to answer! A1) About 2 gallons. At that point it is at the fuel pump. A2) The fuel pump reservoir holds 800ml. Anything more than that spills out into the wings. A4) I think it will move up into the res just fine. I talked to Mick from Nomad and he said the res has high enough "walls" to hold the fuel in place very well. A5) Yes, that's were it bent. The guards themselves are very well reinforced and mine bent at the weak point. It didn't look bent because I straightened it out. With a rock. Nope, ever touched the radiator. A6) I have a Vortex, therefore my fan does not kick on until about 212 degrees. It never got that hot, even in the desert with the Nomad tank, so no - the fan did not come on. Keep em coming!
@@JohnTYoung Quick Reply! Don't you sleep? Thanks heaps for answering my questions, did generate more though. Regarding your A1, is that 2 gallons used or 2 gallons left in the tank? Regarding A6, I have a vortex too, does it turn the fan on at a higher temp than the Honda ECU? I just thought it ran cooler. I noticed you have a thermometer on your radiator cap so you'd have more idea than me. I read you sold the ims tank so I'm guessing you are pretty happy with the nomad tank. You've just about convinced me to get one too, I've been using the rotopax on a rear rack with the standard titanium tank. Considered bigger tanks but been reluctant to give up the titanium, the lockable cap (Australian model), and the AXP radiator braces I've got, until now. Have you solved the fuel splash out the cap?
@@andrewhindle6116 Working Andrew. Always working. 2 Gallons in the tank and yes, the vortex turns on at a much higher temp. Not sure why. Yes, I am very happy with the tank and I can't really think of a down side to it. Again, don't like the added weight of 5 gallons of gas - fill it up with 3 and have those 3 sit lower on your bike.
That's a cool idea, but the fuel pump doesn't have a separate hose for pickup, so the mat would have to be incorporated into the pump. Also, no fuel return to keep it wetted. But I like where your head's at. Thanks!
Hey John, well you've certainly transformed the way your CRF 450 looks... Pretty mean, actually, I'm impressed :) Now I noticed the Zeta Revolver in the long shots of the bike, but when you're going around the bike, at the end, it's gone. I think you should do a short video of that, for all the CRF owners that have trouble shifting... So are you still using the low comfort seat ??? If so, how is it treating your butt ? Btw, I just ordered a G2 throttle tamer from CRF's Only...doesn't seem to be available in Australia, and eBay is way dearer (: Cheers
Hi Geoff. The videos can sometimes be a compilation of shots a few weeks apart. As you noticed! I do have shots to make up a video, I just have not yet. It works great by the way. The Comfort Low is NOT as comfy as the regular, probably because it's thinner. It's still WAY more comfy than the stock seat.
I do Classic John’s all the time. Last time was with my 2021 Goldwing Tour DCT. Busted the turn signal in the mirror when the bike fell against my garage wall. Cost me $316 Sh%t. Could have been a lot worse.
@@tennyis28 I went back and forth between being an entertainer or a respected rider and went for the laughs. I'm glad it's working! But now no one wants to ride with me. :(
You can’t blame Nomad for the fuel pick up issues as that was determined by Honda in their stupid tank design. It really needs an auxiliary pump in the low point and I don’t know if that has been done before, maybe in a tank for the Yam 660? I guess you have a reliable range of 17L which is a huge improvement over the IMS. I wouldn’t be happy with that constant cutting out as fuel pumps rely on the fuel for lubrication. With the Acerbis KTM tank you only have to lean the bike to the left and you can use nearly everything. Did you buy from a US retailer or direct from Nomad? Another useful real world report.
glad I came across this. no idea they had a 5 gal. wondering if you took the crf450L on i70 / highway 6 @ 75 80mph during your Utah/CO trip? wondering if the bigger tank helped it feel better on road
Hi John, I've been watching a number of your 450L videos. Been thinking of buying a 450L vs another 701 like I had last year. Based on your riding style why did you pick a 450 vs a 701 or 690?, which would have 3.5 gallons stock and an easy to add 1.5L solution from Rade Garage.
I wanted a Honda, number 1. I'd been eyeballing the KTMs etc but wished Honda would make the CRF450L. So when they did I kinda had to buy one. Other reasons were the weight was a little better and the suspension on the CRF, I thought, was better. When the 701LR came out I was seriously eyeing that bike, but I'd fallen in love with my Honda, so I didn't get one. We'll see what 2023 brings. Great question!
I just bought a 2022 CRF450X for a Baja trip I have planned. The stock tank is just about useless for that type of ride so I'm going to change the tank to either the IMS or this one. I was curious how the fuel would transfer out of the lower wings of this tank and you answered it perfectly. My only reservation is the overall size being slightly bigger... heat build up in the fuel with the larger area around the motor, and the fact that you can't really get the fuel out of the bottom of the wings... I think I might be better served by getting the IMS 3 gal tank and adding a Giant Loop 1 gallon fuel bag. Yes it'd have to ride on the back of the bike (not the best spot) but after the first 40 miles, I could then transfer the gas in the fuel bag into the tank and continue the ride... your thoughts?
Great Video as always. Witch Tank you recommend. The IMS or the Nomad concerning Fit, Look and Quality. I probably won’t need a big as the Nomad. But it is always nice to have an emergency sip on board. I can’t decide. greeting from switzerland 🇨🇭
That totally depends on your style. My style is long 100 plus mile days in the middle of nowhere, so the 5 gallon makes sense. I also don't do a ton of trail or tree riding, so the Nomad's extra width doesn't bother me. Quality wise the IMS looks better though both tanks are made from exactly the same material. I've also sent back 2 IMS tanks when the threaded brass inserts came loose. How's that for a non-answer answer?
@@JohnTYoung Great, thank you. This titanium Tank is super Sexy....but it is to young....sorry to small 😏I think will go for the Nomad. Fat but useful😳. And as I see he can take some punch. You wehre never concerned in case of a damage?
Nice video thanks. You said the 3 gallon IMS tank doesn't hit your knees as much as this big one. So I assume the smaller one is more comfortable. Will you put the smaller one back on during periods of shorter riding when you don't need all that extra km range. Or is the big one on now for good?
I'm thinking it's on for good now. It is only noticeable because the IMS didn't hit, that I noticed. LOL. I'm sure I'll get used to it and won't feel it after a while.
@@JohnTYoung OK cool - a great mod, and it looks awesome. I was thinking about a bigger tank for my WR250R, but I tried a friend's bike with a big tank and it felt quite uncomfortable for my long legs. I think I'll settle on the 3 gallon IMS tank and carry some extra fuel for those rare times I need more than 3 gallons. Cheers
so... I'm no engineer, and all tanks have an "unusable volume of gas", but how hard would it be to either have designed, or retrofit a T sectioned line kit to feed the fuel from the lowest corner wings to be picked up and plumbed into the fuel pump. and a drain line from the seat back section to the lower wings. seems to me that'd leave unusable fuel to ounces, not a couple liters.
John, I installed this tank on my ‘22 450RL and had it looked over by a dealership. The bike consistently loses power while i’m on the road and on the trail despite how much fuel is in the tank. The only thing that temporarily remedies it is opening and closing the gas cap. Have you had this issue at all?
Only one comment John you must be getting OLD, If two hotties ask if you're "ok" the answer is absolutely NO. I think the tank looks good not obese. I wonder if the fuel pick up can be changes to catch that last bit of fuel but then it is a reserve more or less. Also is it going to grow like most plastic tanks?
I am using a Seat Concepts xl comfort tall seat. My inseam is 36”. Do you think my knees will be in the curve of the tank and I will need to scoot uncomfortably back? Your comment about leg position got me wondering.
John with the IMS tank you used to use did you experience any issues when you got low with fuel not pumping well? I'm just thinking if you experience issues when you get down to 5 litres on the Nomad is it really worth it as functional use is actually about 15 litres?
If you are discounting the gas in the very bottom of the Nomad, it's more like 1.5 liters... BUT. it's still in there, you just have to work to get at it, just like you would of those liters were on the back of your bike. As for issues with the last few liters in the IMS tank, no, I never had any issues. Great questions!
@@JohnTYoung Thanks. Did you mean to say it 'hasn't" done that since that video? I currently have a modified 2016 Suzuki DR650. I'm thinking of sticking with it, getting a CRF450L, a KTM 690 Enduro R, or a KTM 790 Adventure R. I'm all over the map! Can't decide! I also have a 2019 Triumph Tiger 1200 XCa.
@@JohnTYoung Thanks. Yeah, they're all great bikes but I guess it just depends on what I want to do. I would like to imagine a situation where I could have one bike that does it all. I feel like the KTM 790 Adventure R might be that bike.
@@JohnTYoung cool! Good to know! I'm actually thinking of trading in my Indian and getting back into dual sport riding and the 450L is high on my list of prospects. I really find your channel informative. Lots of good information! Thanks very much for the response! I'll give you some likes and a subscribe for the algorithm 👍
Well that depends on what my throttle hand is up to Brandon. If I'm getting 45MPG then it's 225 miles. If I'm ripping around at 38MPG then it's 190. If I'm in the sand then it's 20.
@@JohnTYoung good to know. I bought a DRZ400 a long time ago with a 4.9 gallon tank and it got 55 mpg hitting 200 easily before reserve. Now no matter how I drive it gets 30 mpg. Sad part is I get 50 mpg with my street oriented 2008 suzuki dr650 just flogging it! I was looking for my next pure dirt bike with decent mpg. I want 200 miles a tank again with something with at least 50 hp.
@@JohnTYoung my drz400 has the upgraded carb and exhaust as well. hell my front forks are built so tough that you can't even push the handle bars down more than an inch or two. I weigh 260 lbs out of the shower and I was tired of flipping over the handle bars hitting the breaks hard...hahaha! but I am sure the honda CRF450RL is my next dirty girl I want to invest in! Thanks for the Videos!
Looks really BadAss! I hate that we didn't get to hear the audio for the two drops! Also, think you might have been watching too many overseas reviewer's. What do you know about 2 liters other than a diet coke? JK brother!
YOU HAVE TO RIDE IT ON A WHEELIE ON THE LAST 1/2 GALThat's nuts man, that's a terrible design on that tank.. They should have make it 4gal and not have to ride it in a wheelie
@@JohnTYoung I hate wheelies, because I can't do them, it's a out of controll hold on to your life for the next 50 feet disaster with a surprise at the end..
I respect riders who don't hesitate to post videos of falls...this is life and real off-road. Thank you, John
You’re welcome!
The graphics make it work!
True.
Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder...and BEHOLD!! It is bad ass and a GREAT looking set of wheels John! You are lucky to be able to get out and ride this season....Stay safe! Another excellent review!
Thank you Mark. That's really appreciated.
Great couple of videos there. I switch to a Clark tank on my RM 250 (when running hare scrambles) with fuel tank foam to control the sloshing effect, I also used a heat gun to ever so slightly massage the tank for my Scotts steering stabilizer. Your bike looks sharp !
Thanks SPENJERE!
John, the bike looks great. Keep doing what you do. Enjoy the ride and keep the informative vids coming. Stay safe!
Thank you lawrence, I'll do my best.
We can always count on you to “trail test” these new products! Lol I had a good laugh when you tipped over the other way. Another great video John. Much appreciated as always.
Thank you! I laughed too. Later on. Much much later. :)
JT, thanks for leaving the crashes in and taking one for the team! We have all done exactly that same move. Great info on your review. Its like you are in the same room fielding the questions as they pop up in my mind.
LOL. Thanks for phrasing it that way. You are too kind.
Brilliant as always!
Thanks for the thorough, thoughtful and honest reviews.
I've always wanted to be brilliant! Thank you.
nice review, @John T. Young. Thanks for the thorough review. Enjoy the rides.
Thank you!
You've put together a red, black, and blue beauty of a beast. Love your channel.
Thank you!
Yaa. bike looks great and I can hear you so much better now. Looking forward to more John. Thanks!
New audio set up.
Hi John, great set up, keep it as it is. I have recently bought the MST rally kit for my CRF 450L that I had planned long time before..... Mate, I have never seen such a terrible job. I will probably make a video about it, there is no single part that would fit. You have to drill, bend, cut, .... almost everything.....
That’s terrible. Those kits are expensive. If you make a video I will definitely watch it. Thanks for the heads up.
Great videos mate. Love your sense of humour and attention to detail. Got me thinking about upgrading from a 250 rally to one of these as my next bike.
If you ever wished your 250 had longer legs or bigger lungs the 450 is probably for you. Thanks for watching!
very good info, thanks for taking the time
Glad it was helpful!
Looks great with the decals John, it would be too plan without. Another great video, thanks for doing this!
Thank you. Thanks for watching.
When I saw the tank before you put it on, I thought it was going to be butt ugly. But installed & with the decals, it looks fine. I think the decals help a lot - makes it look like it came from the factory that way. If I buy the CRF450L, I will install all the same add-ons you chose. You should get a sales commission for all the products that people like me will buy because of your videos.
I totally should, but I guess I’ll settle for your thanks. 😃
Good looking bike with the extra bigger tank :-) Like your explanations and videos of what you've added to the 450l :-)
Thanks 👍
Great review! I hope that the manufacturer will see this and modify their design accordingly!
I always hope they listen too.
I am re-watching your videos, thank you for sharing.
Thank you for watching them!
Are you able to remove the fuel pump and extend the pickup tube? Push the 2 pickups way down into the bottom corners with finger strains on them. As well, to prevent dirt from getting into the fuel tank corners, a fuel sock in the neck of the tank might help.
The Honda setup does use a pickup. No such luck.
Thorough review as always, hope you get enough views to pay for all of the stuff you've tried :) $700 is stout for a tank.
I sold my IMS tank to take some sting out of the cost. Thanks for watching DansADV.
@@JohnTYoung Using Rotopax for now.... carried a syphon on the COBDR.. just in case, didn't end up needing it, but got close.
@@DansADV I've carried Fuel Friends 2L for a while now and rarely used them. Figured I'd move that weight to the front of the bike instead of hanging off the back of the bike.
Cool video its been so hot in California its been hard to get out and ride 😓 thanks for the info on the trip screen to check fuel usage. I think the natural ims tank is for me .ride safe !!! Keep the videos coming.
The UTBDR was nice once I got North of Salt Lake City. South of that was HOOOOOTTTTTT!!!!!
We live in a state where you can always get to cooler weather. I rode from 500 to 8k feet and found some rain and mid 70s
@@izuksammy True.
I have to agree with you a hundred percent it does look badass.
She's big and beautiful. 😃
Thank you. Life is too short. 😂 Gotta be able to laugh at yourself.😁 Such great Info
Thanks for the video I’ve been looking for a bigger tank I couldn’t see going just 1 gallon bigger and I couldn’t find this tank anywhere until here so I probably will be getting one soon
Thanks for watching!
I like the look 👀 of your bike VERY COOL 👍🏿 Good Job as always
Thanks! 👍
After all is said and done, it doesn't look bad at all, and I am sure it was needed.
Some like it, some don't, but it works great and I never worry about running out on a BDR trip.
Dang! My ims tank arrived last week and then I find out about the Nomad the day after. I’m planning on doing the Washington BDR Labor Day weekend and it would be great to have that extra gas. Well, as it is I will have to do with the Moscow Moto 40l that arrived yesterday with the 2 extra 1 liter add ons. That should allow me to carry an extra 4 bottle or 1 gallon. Over 2000 mi
Les oN the cry and loving it. Thanks for the informative videos.
Have fun on the WABDR. It's on my list for sure! And thank you for the kind words Gershom.
Installed mine for the Westen half of the TAT same thing dumped it a few times no damage. I went with the clear- ugly as sin but always knew how much fuel I had. Great for the 200 mile stretches between fuel stops.
On the IDBDR now. Same deal. Quite a few long stretches. I’ve found the Honda fuel meter to be extremely accurate.
Great info. Thanks for sharing. I would purchase one as a back up for that occasional long distance trip. I'll stay with the stock tank, on the CRF, since my riding is within the mileage to a gas station.
That makes sense WSL. Thanks for watching!
Great follow up review and feedback 😊👌glad you like it overall 👍
Keep the vids coming 😉
Ps please do a follow-up review on the recluse 😎
So far the Rekluse has been awesome. Except when it hasn't. There ya go Jono! LOL. Thanks for the feedback and I will try to get something together for ya.
@@JohnTYoung 😅 im interested in the when not good times 🤔
I finally bit the bullet and got one and yet to fit it... I'll be watching your vid again to refresh 👌👍
Thanks John much appreciated 😊
Great review John, looks a lot better in black and with the graphics. I'd only seen the clear tank and thought it looked a bit chunky. Does your tank bag still fit?
The Hood tank bag still fits, but sots pretty high now. Without the graphics it still looks chunky.
Thank you for sharing the good informations. I must say that the nomad would be better with specific fuel pumps but it would cost much more. Anyway the bikes looks nice with the black tank even if I prefer the IMS (because it was looking more like the standard bike)
13:25 14:17 that's when you're happy not riding a Africa Twin :D (I used to ride a Super Tenere and now I ride a WR450 so I know lol)
LOL! Yes. That trail would have been a really bad place for a Twin.
Hey John! Love your videos. What is your Mic setup? I noticed you have the mic attachment on the helmet go pro, what lapel setup are you using? My audio is always "windy"
I switch around a lot, but I just got the Rode Go wireless mic that seems to work well when I remember how to work it.
Thanks for the review. It reminds me of a KLX250/351 I have with a 3.7 gallon Acerbis tank. (Actually it holds about 4.1). On the highway when I run out of gas I park it in gear, come to the front of the bike, crank the bars all the way over and lift up the front end in a wheelie and then rock it a bit up there. First "wheelie" gets me another 15KM, the 2nd wheelie another 4KM, the 3rd about 2KM and then about 1/2 a mile.
My big concern on the Honda would be I used to push my KTM 690 till it ran out of gas and so often just doing that once killed the fuel pump.
So far the fuel pump seems fine, though I don't try to push my milage too too far.
John, thanks for this channel and all the content for this bike and answering all the questions you get! I had my first real world experience with my Nomad 20L and scuffed it pretty good on a rock. Knock on plastic...do you carry anything to patch yours in the event of a puncture? (special epoxy? radiator hose tape? etc - what works?). Also, I have the same setup as you using the short overflow tube and check valve. My tank leaked through the cap when I dropped it. I can tighten the cap fairly snug, but if I push it too far it pops off, ie. threads let go. Have you had the same experience or does this sound defective?
Epoxy and duct tape. But so far no holes.
As usual absolutely nice vid even if the lizard is not very attentive. Thank you so much ! I really appreciate how you turn this bike, pretty bad ass ;)
My dude question is : what about Hood Tank Bag, does it fit anymore ?
It does, but it leans back a bit. Standing up I don’t notice it. Sitting and riding hard I find I lean on it, like a brace. Still love the bag tho..
That random stall is always what gets me on hard obstacles.
Ya. Almost makes me want to get a flywheel weight.
Amazing tank .👏🏽👏🏽
Ya!
Range anxiety is a big deal for me. I will be changing the stock tank after the ECU, Pipe. Since I have to take the tank off to put the new ECU in maybe I’ll do a twofer
Mr. Efficiency! I like it.
Very nice bike.
I enjoy your videos.
What boots are you wearing?
Thank you! They are the Sidi Adventure 2s. There’s a review on here somewhere.
Awesome, cheers from Brazil
Hey, thanks!
Glad you are happy with it.
I find it a bit fat and ugly, but like they say, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
Yes, that's what they say.
Great follow up to part 1. Thought you answered all the questions, I always have unanswered questions (in my mind anyway). Q1, How much fuel is left/used when the low fuel light starts coming on? Q2, When you did the 1 gallon fuel trial, how much fuel was in the fuel pump reservoir rather than in the wings? It may give a misleading indication on how easy it is or at what point it is hard to get the fuel out of the wings. Q4, You mention that for the last 2 litres you need to be prepared for how you are going to get it in the pump reservoir, but also that you haven't ridden in the dirt with less than 2 gallons in it. In your experience, would the fuel from 2 gallons to 2 litres move from wings to pump without conscious intervention in on and off throttle dirt riding? Q5, Did the radiator guard bend at the lower mount point going to the frame hence the bigger washers and did it do anything to the radiator? The guard didn't look bent! Last Q6, Does the thermo fan come on more with the nomad radiator guards compared to the standard ones. Keep up the good work, and good to see the fall overs, I can relate to them all to well. As long as we keep getting up.🙂
That's a lot of questions I failed to answer! A1) About 2 gallons. At that point it is at the fuel pump. A2) The fuel pump reservoir holds 800ml. Anything more than that spills out into the wings. A4) I think it will move up into the res just fine. I talked to Mick from Nomad and he said the res has high enough "walls" to hold the fuel in place very well. A5) Yes, that's were it bent. The guards themselves are very well reinforced and mine bent at the weak point. It didn't look bent because I straightened it out. With a rock. Nope, ever touched the radiator. A6) I have a Vortex, therefore my fan does not kick on until about 212 degrees. It never got that hot, even in the desert with the Nomad tank, so no - the fan did not come on. Keep em coming!
@@JohnTYoung Quick Reply! Don't you sleep? Thanks heaps for answering my questions, did generate more though. Regarding your A1, is that 2 gallons used or 2 gallons left in the tank? Regarding A6, I have a vortex too, does it turn the fan on at a higher temp than the Honda ECU? I just thought it ran cooler. I noticed you have a thermometer on your radiator cap so you'd have more idea than me. I read you sold the ims tank so I'm guessing you are pretty happy with the nomad tank. You've just about convinced me to get one too, I've been using the rotopax on a rear rack with the standard titanium tank. Considered bigger tanks but been reluctant to give up the titanium, the lockable cap (Australian model), and the AXP radiator braces I've got, until now. Have you solved the fuel splash out the cap?
@@andrewhindle6116 Working Andrew. Always working. 2 Gallons in the tank and yes, the vortex turns on at a much higher temp. Not sure why. Yes, I am very happy with the tank and I can't really think of a down side to it. Again, don't like the added weight of 5 gallons of gas - fill it up with 3 and have those 3 sit lower on your bike.
The Holley Hydramat would help with fuel starvation and get all the fuel from the bottom of your tank.
That's a cool idea, but the fuel pump doesn't have a separate hose for pickup, so the mat would have to be incorporated into the pump. Also, no fuel return to keep it wetted. But I like where your head's at. Thanks!
Hey John, well you've certainly transformed the way your CRF 450 looks... Pretty mean, actually, I'm impressed :)
Now I noticed the Zeta Revolver in the long shots of the bike, but when you're going around the bike, at the end, it's gone.
I think you should do a short video of that, for all the CRF owners that have trouble shifting...
So are you still using the low comfort seat ??? If so, how is it treating your butt ?
Btw, I just ordered a G2 throttle tamer from CRF's Only...doesn't seem to be available in Australia, and eBay is way dearer (:
Cheers
Hi Geoff. The videos can sometimes be a compilation of shots a few weeks apart. As you noticed! I do have shots to make up a video, I just have not yet. It works great by the way. The Comfort Low is NOT as comfy as the regular, probably because it's thinner. It's still WAY more comfy than the stock seat.
I do Classic John’s all the time. Last time was with my 2021 Goldwing Tour DCT. Busted the turn signal in the mirror when the bike fell against my garage wall. Cost me $316 Sh%t. Could have been a lot worse.
Bike's need their own airbags. Just sayin'.
great video! got a laugh at the bike drops haha
Thanks?
@@JohnTYoung yes haha all in good fun! been there before :)
@@tennyis28 I went back and forth between being an entertainer or a respected rider and went for the laughs. I'm glad it's working! But now no one wants to ride with me. :(
@@JohnTYoung haha i'd ride with ya anyday!
You can’t blame Nomad for the fuel pick up issues as that was determined by Honda in their stupid tank design. It really needs an auxiliary pump in the low point and I don’t know if that has been done before, maybe in a tank for the Yam 660? I guess you have a reliable range of 17L which is a huge improvement over the IMS. I wouldn’t be happy with that constant cutting out as fuel pumps rely on the fuel for lubrication. With the Acerbis KTM tank you only have to lean the bike to the left and you can use nearly everything. Did you buy from a US retailer or direct from Nomad? Another useful real world report.
I got it right from Mick himself. LOL. Ya, a better pump location would be nice, but here we are.
glad I came across this. no idea they had a 5 gal. wondering if you took the crf450L on i70 / highway 6 @ 75 80mph during your Utah/CO trip? wondering if the bigger tank helped it feel better on road
A little. But it’s still a light bike for the road. What helps more is a steering stabilizer and balanced tires.
Great videos.👍🏼🇺🇸
Thanks 👍
Add me to the list of viewers who think those graphics were a great call. Have you had any issue with the decals bubbling or peeling off the tank?
Of course! They are long gone and I'm on to a new set. But they were very pretty while they lasted.
there's another way to use the rest of the gas john, just put pebbles on your gas tank for the gasoline to rise up, then your good to go.
I will certainly keep that in mind. :)
Great video as always John! What was the shipping time like all the way from aussie land? Seriously considering picking one up for my 450L as well.
Took two weeks as I recall. No guarantee s on that tho. Thanks for watching Ryan.
John T. Young awesome thanks!
Hi John, I've been watching a number of your 450L videos. Been thinking of buying a 450L vs another 701 like I had last year. Based on your riding style why did you pick a 450 vs a 701 or 690?, which would have 3.5 gallons stock and an easy to add 1.5L solution from Rade Garage.
I wanted a Honda, number 1. I'd been eyeballing the KTMs etc but wished Honda would make the CRF450L. So when they did I kinda had to buy one. Other reasons were the weight was a little better and the suspension on the CRF, I thought, was better. When the 701LR came out I was seriously eyeing that bike, but I'd fallen in love with my Honda, so I didn't get one. We'll see what 2023 brings. Great question!
I just bought a 2022 CRF450X for a Baja trip I have planned. The stock tank is just about useless for that type of ride so I'm going to change the tank to either the IMS or this one. I was curious how the fuel would transfer out of the lower wings of this tank and you answered it perfectly. My only reservation is the overall size being slightly bigger... heat build up in the fuel with the larger area around the motor, and the fact that you can't really get the fuel out of the bottom of the wings... I think I might be better served by getting the IMS 3 gal tank and adding a Giant Loop 1 gallon fuel bag. Yes it'd have to ride on the back of the bike (not the best spot) but after the first 40 miles, I could then transfer the gas in the fuel bag into the tank and continue the ride... your thoughts?
That was my plan B too. So far tho, no problems with over heating or running out of fuel with the Nomad.
👍🇺🇸🙏🏅 really enjoyed excellent video thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Great Video as always. Witch Tank you recommend. The IMS or the Nomad concerning Fit, Look and Quality. I probably won’t need a big as the Nomad. But it is always nice to have an emergency sip on board. I can’t decide. greeting from switzerland 🇨🇭
That totally depends on your style. My style is long 100 plus mile days in the middle of nowhere, so the 5 gallon makes sense. I also don't do a ton of trail or tree riding, so the Nomad's extra width doesn't bother me. Quality wise the IMS looks better though both tanks are made from exactly the same material. I've also sent back 2 IMS tanks when the threaded brass inserts came loose. How's that for a non-answer answer?
@@JohnTYoung Great, thank you. This titanium Tank is super Sexy....but it is to young....sorry to small 😏I think will go for the Nomad. Fat but useful😳. And as I see he can take some punch. You wehre never concerned in case of a damage?
@@MrBenfru I like fat but useful. ANd so far any damage has been to the radiator guard/brace that holds the tank in place and acts as a radiator guard
@@JohnTYoung thanks for your support. I let you know how things on my bike change.
Thanks ! Wont waste my time with this tank.
Ok
i put a large gallon tank on my bike,after running out. my riding buddies made fun of me until they started running low
It's funny to see who carries the siphon tube and who carries the gas.
Good wheelie excuse for the popo.. 🤔
Ya!
That fuel tank is “astig” or “bad ass” in English. How I wish that’s available in the Philippines anyhow.
Give Nomad a shout. They can ship anywhere.
Nice video thanks. You said the 3 gallon IMS tank doesn't hit your knees as much as this big one. So I assume the smaller one is more comfortable. Will you put the smaller one back on during periods of shorter riding when you don't need all that extra km range. Or is the big one on now for good?
I'm thinking it's on for good now. It is only noticeable because the IMS didn't hit, that I noticed. LOL. I'm sure I'll get used to it and won't feel it after a while.
@@JohnTYoung OK cool - a great mod, and it looks awesome. I was thinking about a bigger tank for my WR250R, but I tried a friend's bike with a big tank and it felt quite uncomfortable for my long legs. I think I'll settle on the 3 gallon IMS tank and carry some extra fuel for those rare times I need more than 3 gallons. Cheers
so... I'm no engineer, and all tanks have an "unusable volume of gas", but how hard would it be to either have designed, or retrofit a T sectioned line kit to feed the fuel from the lowest corner wings to be picked up and plumbed into the fuel pump. and a drain line from the seat back section to the lower wings. seems to me that'd leave unusable fuel to ounces, not a couple liters.
Bob, not impossible, but the Honda's fuel pump is an odd chunk on engineering. It would not be an easy fix.
I'll tell you what I think. I think the gravity forces were unstable at the 13.41 mark. It happens to me all the time.
Right. End of the world apocalypse kind of stuff going on.
@@JohnTYoung Lol!
I guess a site tube on the gas tank is out . Does the fuel pump over heat when low on fuel.Your bike looks tough
I thought of that, but I didn't want to be the first one to drill a hole in my tank.
John, I installed this tank on my ‘22 450RL and had it looked over by a dealership. The bike consistently loses power while i’m on the road and on the trail despite how much fuel is in the tank. The only thing that temporarily remedies it is opening and closing the gas cap. Have you had this issue at all?
No. Are you sure the gas cap vent isn't clogged? No air in means no gas out... Also, be sure the fuel line is fully seated.
Hi John. Now that Nomad has a 15L tank, if you were getting the tank today would you still go with the 20L? Thanks.
Nomad is sending me a 15L as we speak so I can let you know once I have it in my hot little hands.
Only one comment John you must be getting OLD, If two hotties ask if you're "ok" the answer is absolutely NO. I think the tank looks good not obese. I wonder if the fuel pick up can be changes to catch that last bit of fuel but then it is a reserve more or less. Also is it going to grow like most plastic tanks?
What was I going to say? "Hey come help me push my bike cause I ran it out of gas on purpose!" ?!?! That's a horrible pick up line.
@@JohnTYoung Act dumb.
@@azlong4596 Who's acting!
Sorry if I missed it, what range are you getting on the 20L tank?
36 to 48 MPG times 5... Your mileage may vary.
I am using a Seat Concepts xl comfort tall seat. My inseam is 36”. Do you think my knees will be in the curve of the tank and I will need to scoot uncomfortably back? Your comment about leg position got me wondering.
The bend for your knees is at the same place but instead of the plastic there it’s tank.
How tall are you John and what is your inseam. I have Range Anxiety so a larger tank is in my future but the width may send me to the IMS
Hi Doug, I have a 32" inseam and my knees just start touching the outward sweep when I am sitting down... which I try not to do. LOL
@@JohnTYoung Thanks for the reply. Guess I’m just going to have to ManSpread a little more than normal
@@PapaDougsAdventures01 keeps the airflow up to the important bits.
Hi John love you Vids i only got 300Kms on my 450l i getting about 5.8 L/100 is that how much fuel you are using thanks
Thanks! I get between that and 5.2 or 40 MPG to 45 MPG.
Hey John, think I could still hit some monster jumps with a full 5 gallon tank?
Heck ya. With all the videos of people jumping and trials riding T7s and Africa Twins a 450 would be easy.
John with the IMS tank you used to use did you experience any issues when you got low with fuel not pumping well? I'm just thinking if you experience issues when you get down to 5 litres on the Nomad is it really worth it as functional use is actually about 15 litres?
If you are discounting the gas in the very bottom of the Nomad, it's more like 1.5 liters... BUT. it's still in there, you just have to work to get at it, just like you would of those liters were on the back of your bike. As for issues with the last few liters in the IMS tank, no, I never had any issues. Great questions!
@@JohnTYoung Thanks John for the reply. Love your videos and your bike, great practical vids.
Oh, also, next time you need decals, check out SKDA, they do decals to match the Nomad tank, see my profile pic for an example.
@@triplethefun Yup. Got them and waiting to finish the rally kit before I apply them. Thanks!
Does your bike have a fan? Think the tank would accommodate a fan?
It does. The fan is the small stock one on the backside of the radiator. The tank doesn't interfere with it at all.
Hey John, was wondering how many miles you have on it now? And if you’ve had to shim the valves any
9900 and nope. Not yet.
John T. Young nice!! Top speed on gps?
@@matthewcaldwell5853 I have no idea Matthew. What a great question. In theory it ought to do about 100MPH.
8:08 So "splashing out" isn't leaking? ;)
Nope. I was talking about the fuel pump o-ring. Oddly enough it has NOT done it since that video.
@@JohnTYoung Thanks. Did you mean to say it 'hasn't" done that since that video? I currently have a modified 2016 Suzuki DR650. I'm thinking of sticking with it, getting a CRF450L, a KTM 690 Enduro R, or a KTM 790 Adventure R. I'm all over the map! Can't decide! I also have a 2019 Triumph Tiger 1200 XCa.
damachine3 yes! Thank you. Fixed it. That KTM 790 is a nice bike. It was my second choice at the time.
@@JohnTYoung Thanks. Yeah, they're all great bikes but I guess it just depends on what I want to do. I would like to imagine a situation where I could have one bike that does it all. I feel like the KTM 790 Adventure R might be that bike.
Put the 790 on a 500cc diet and you’d have something. It fatten up your 450. 😎
Do they have a translucent plastic tank where the fuel level can be easily seen?
Yes, they make one in white as well.
Yep, there is a translucent one too. The black one looks way cooler though.
Can't you just lean the bike over from side to side to get the fuel to flow over to the center reservoir?
I suppose if you leaned WAY over and hard enough to slosh it over the frame rails... maybe.
@@JohnTYoung cool! Good to know!
I'm actually thinking of trading in my Indian and getting back into dual sport riding and the 450L is high on my list of prospects.
I really find your channel informative. Lots of good information!
Thanks very much for the response!
I'll give you some likes and a subscribe for the algorithm 👍
@@JP-ec9rl Thank you Jeremy.
Any time Sir!
Try magura hidráulic clutch
I'll add one to the list. Thank you.
What mirrors are those?
Double Take Mirrors - bit.ly/3p9yAIJ
If you can run out of gas. with two liters left in the tank...it's a bad design.
The pick-up should be lower in the tank.
2 liters? No. 1/2 liter. Sort of.
Does this fit the RL
L and RL are the same bike.
12:03 Compsognathus
So you're saying I'm as old as a dinosaur?
Me ayudas con la campanita para seguirte algo está esos paseos
Gracias
what is your range with that tank?
Well that depends on what my throttle hand is up to Brandon. If I'm getting 45MPG then it's 225 miles. If I'm ripping around at 38MPG then it's 190. If I'm in the sand then it's 20.
@@JohnTYoung good to know. I bought a DRZ400 a long time ago with a 4.9 gallon tank and it got 55 mpg hitting 200 easily before reserve. Now no matter how I drive it gets 30 mpg. Sad part is I get 50 mpg with my street oriented 2008 suzuki dr650 just flogging it! I was looking for my next pure dirt bike with decent mpg. I want 200 miles a tank again with something with at least 50 hp.
@@PseudonymAliase Mine isn't set up to get great MPG, I'm afraid. I'm geared to haul a ton of gear.
@@JohnTYoung my drz400 has the upgraded carb and exhaust as well. hell my front forks are built so tough that you can't even push the handle bars down more than an inch or two. I weigh 260 lbs out of the shower and I was tired of flipping over the handle bars hitting the breaks hard...hahaha! but I am sure the honda CRF450RL is my next dirty girl I want to invest in! Thanks for the Videos!
@@PseudonymAliase You are very welcome.
Looks really BadAss! I hate that we didn't get to hear the audio for the two drops! Also, think you might have been watching too many overseas reviewer's. What do you know about 2 liters other than a diet coke? JK brother!
It's an Aussie tank. It must be rubbing off on me. :/
Yep those graphics made the tank look a lot smaller.........NOT, Great vid
Thanks ?
Sounds like a 4.5 gallon tank.
That 1/2 gallon is still in there tho…
YOU HAVE TO RIDE IT ON A WHEELIE ON THE LAST 1/2 GALThat's nuts man, that's a terrible design on that tank.. They should have make it 4gal and not have to ride it in a wheelie
You don't like wheelies? LOL. I know, a 4 or 4 1/2 gallon tank would have made a little more sense.
@@JohnTYoung I hate wheelies, because I can't do them, it's a out of controll hold on to your life for the next 50 feet disaster with a surprise at the end..
@@vegasromaniac Been there for sure. We're going to have to start practicing.
so basiclly u has to wheelie to use your fuel... lol
Yes, but by the time you get down to the last half gallon, this thing is a wheelie machine, so....
5 gallons is great but damn it looks ugly.
It started as a “Butter Tank” but I’ve gotten used to it.