Hi Winkey, you're aiming to remove run out from your adapter. You've cut the female thread to suit the lathe spindle. You even tested it there. Why then, oh, why did you then remove the new adapter, reinstall the collet chuck with the mandrel, and then install the adapter the other way around to cut the male threads for the wood lathe chuck? If you had left the adapter on the spindle and done the male thread from there, you'd have removed the possibility of run out in three possible places, 1/ the collet chuck to spindle, 2/ the mandrel to the collet chuck and 3/ the mandrel to the adapter. What could possibly go wrong? I'll be interested to see the results in part 2, but I'm also almost willing to bet that you'll have more run out. Also, there'd be almost zero chance of the adapter slipping since it would be threaded on instead of being held, hopefully, by a bolt, washer and faith. Good luck from Canada's banana belt. 🤞🇨🇦🍌🥋🇺🇦🕊🇺🇲👍
As long as the mandrel in the collet was turn concentric and not removed, and the adapter was a good fit on the mandrel then flipping it would not me an issue. With that being said, removing the collet chuck from the lathe could result in a small error and removing the mandrel from the collet would also be bad. There was a reason for flipping the adapter. First I didn't think about threading it without flipping... which is a very good idea although I would have had to make groove to start my threads which is not a huge negative in itself but! Second, I wanted to test a new auto retract threading tool that will be reviewed in the next video. In other words, I needed to thread up against a shoulder to demonstrate the tool. The collet chuck threads are proven to be repeatable so removing the chuck from the lathe would not be an issue. However, due to an extreme brain fart I removed the mandrel from the collet chuck. This will be shown in the next video. The auto-retract threader video so feel free to comment. It will be interesting how many notice this error. I was able to rotate the mandrel in the collet chuck to get back to about .001 runout. The video will be public Friday June 28th. The results were good but not perfect. Still much better than the first attempt and more that adequate for my CNC wood lathe. Wood compresses .025" just clamping it in the chuck! Thanks for pointing out my error. Cutting threads away from the shoulder would normally have been an ideal method.
I just check the runout on the wood lathe. It was about .006" which is a bit more than I expected. I still think it was mostly due to removing the mandrel from the collet check. The method you described would have been better but removing the collet from the mandrel or the collet chuck from the spindle would have been needed to test the fit. The later would have been better. Again, the reason for flipping was to test the threader.
@@WinkysWorkshopmy apologies. I just went back and watched the video again and the test was on the wood lathe, not the craftsman. My error. However, if you had turned the mandrel in your collet chuck, which is probably more accurate than the three jaw, with the wood lathe thread, you could then screw the adapter onto the mandrel to cut the male craftsman thread without having to worry about slippage and it would give you a test mandrel for future projects. I have a used mandrel for my Myford and it's been very useful for testing backplates, chucks and adapters without having to dismount the work in the chucks. I'm keen to see this threading device. Is it the George Thomas design? I've always wanted to try making one.
@@ronwilken5219 No apogee needed. You made some good points! The threading tool is Mr. Woopee's Auto-Retract Threader. I thought about making one but he gave me a good deal for doing the video. Honestly its a little high priced but when I ask myself if I would make it and sell it for the same, my answer is no. It's well made, very impressive.
Hey Mark, I was wondering where you have found your mill, lathe, and other equipment? I'm in southern Indiana and can't find anything reasonably close in distance and affordable.
My mill came from Southern Indiana which was a 3 hr drive. Honestly Southern Indiana and Ohio are where most the bargains are. My lathe was Louisville. There is a 10 South Bend for 1200 in Greenfield and another one in Xenia OH (9-inch I think). I just keep looking, mostly on FB market place
It works,Mark.One thing at the time(No algorithms ).Thank you.
Thanks
Very important tools❤
Thanks, I agree.
Great video winky, keep'um coming
Thank you! Will do!
Hi Winkey, you're aiming to remove run out from your adapter.
You've cut the female thread to suit the lathe spindle. You even tested it there.
Why then, oh, why did you then remove the new adapter, reinstall the collet chuck with the mandrel, and then install the adapter the other way around to cut the male threads for the wood lathe chuck? If you had left the adapter on the spindle and done the male thread from there, you'd have removed the possibility of run out in three possible places,
1/ the collet chuck to spindle, 2/ the mandrel to the collet chuck and
3/ the mandrel to the adapter. What could possibly go wrong?
I'll be interested to see the results in part 2, but I'm also almost willing to bet that you'll have more run out.
Also, there'd be almost zero chance of the adapter slipping since it would be threaded on instead of being held, hopefully, by a bolt, washer and faith.
Good luck from Canada's banana belt.
🤞🇨🇦🍌🥋🇺🇦🕊🇺🇲👍
As long as the mandrel in the collet was turn concentric and not removed, and the adapter was a good fit on the mandrel then flipping it would not me an issue. With that being said, removing the collet chuck from the lathe could result in a small error and removing the mandrel from the collet would also be bad.
There was a reason for flipping the adapter. First I didn't think about threading it without flipping... which is a very good idea although I would have had to make groove to start my threads which is not a huge negative in itself but! Second, I wanted to test a new auto retract threading tool that will be reviewed in the next video. In other words, I needed to thread up against a shoulder to demonstrate the tool.
The collet chuck threads are proven to be repeatable so removing the chuck from the lathe would not be an issue. However, due to an extreme brain fart I removed the mandrel from the collet chuck. This will be shown in the next video. The auto-retract threader video so feel free to comment. It will be interesting how many notice this error. I was able to rotate the mandrel in the collet chuck to get back to about .001 runout.
The video will be public Friday June 28th. The results were good but not perfect. Still much better than the first attempt and more that adequate for my CNC wood lathe. Wood compresses .025" just clamping it in the chuck!
Thanks for pointing out my error. Cutting threads away from the shoulder would normally have been an ideal method.
I just check the runout on the wood lathe. It was about .006" which is a bit more than I expected. I still think it was mostly due to removing the mandrel from the collet check. The method you described would have been better but removing the collet from the mandrel or the collet chuck from the spindle would have been needed to test the fit. The later would have been better. Again, the reason for flipping was to test the threader.
@@WinkysWorkshopmy apologies. I just went back and watched the video again and the test was on the wood lathe, not the craftsman. My error. However, if you had turned the mandrel in your collet chuck, which is probably more accurate than the three jaw, with the wood lathe thread, you could then screw the adapter onto the mandrel to cut the male craftsman thread without having to worry about slippage and it would give you a test mandrel for future projects.
I have a used mandrel for my Myford and it's been very useful for testing backplates, chucks and adapters without having to dismount the work in the chucks.
I'm keen to see this threading device. Is it the George Thomas design? I've always wanted to try making one.
@@ronwilken5219 No apogee needed. You made some good points! The threading tool is Mr. Woopee's Auto-Retract Threader. I thought about making one but he gave me a good deal for doing the video. Honestly its a little high priced but when I ask myself if I would make it and sell it for the same, my answer is no. It's well made, very impressive.
Hey Mark, I was wondering where you have found your mill, lathe, and other equipment? I'm in southern Indiana and can't find anything reasonably close in distance and affordable.
My mill came from Southern Indiana which was a 3 hr drive. Honestly Southern Indiana and Ohio are where most the bargains are. My lathe was Louisville. There is a 10 South Bend for 1200 in Greenfield and another one in Xenia OH (9-inch I think). I just keep looking, mostly on FB market place
Try Lost Creek Machine in Ottawa, Illinois.
Hi would it be a good idea to add Loctite as a safety measure to the mandrel thein when you want to remove the part just heat it.
looks good
Rich
yeah I was worried about it slipping. Thankfully it did not. Good idea on the loctite
te esperamos amigo
Thanks!
Sharpie mark on part and mandrel to see if they slipped. I'm a chicken though!
Good idea.
Let me guess .... thread milling? 😁
No but that would be cool.