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Hey Chris! As I asked in the full episode: What about directly vaporizing dry cannabis herb with heat (not extracts), either from conduction or convection (so, no other chemicals involved, and without combustion: carbon dioxide)? It would be awesome if Andrew and you also talk about this route of administration. Perhaps in a quick video-call clip? 😉
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Maybe you guys shouldn't go outside, it's pretty scary out there. We wouldn't want you to breathe anything but pure oxygen. You know . . because you might just drop dead. Going to bed now with my carrot juice and a good ol' book.
Hi I vaped for the first time two weeks ago. Bought a vaping device , put liquid in that contained small amounts of nicotine. After vaping my throat started to feel sore. I then developed throat inflammation / infection, and with catarrh gathering in the throat. 2 weeks later i still have the throat soreness. Anyone know why that is and why it happened ? I didnt vape heavily
Quit vaping(MJ) and alcohol 3 months ago cold turkey, at 31yo, felt ashamed of doing damage to my one and only body, but enough is enough. Combined with regular exercise I have never felt better and have never slept better, it's amazing, like a another level of life unlocked.
How did you get over nicotine withdrawals? I’m a recovering alcoholic (3.5 years) and quit all drugs. I run an average of 8 miles a day. But I can’t quit vaping. I’ve tried several times but anytime I’ve tried, the withdrawals turn me into a raging asshole to the point where I almost can’t control it. The last time I tried it really screwed with my relationship. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I did the same a little over 2 months ago. Withdrawals are nothing. Almost entirely mental. Once you make a decision to quit and stick with the decision, only you can stop yourself. UPDATE: today marks 9 months without a cigarette. The hard part is getting yourself to make the leap and commit to quitting. It's all pretty easy from there. Nicotine leaves your body fairly quickly (3 days if I'm not mistaken), so after that, if you're having cravings, it's all mental and you're letting yourself succumb to a fantasy of desire. You don't need it. Just drop it. Live a life of freedom and health. You can do it!
@@Dapryor Should clarify, I was vaping weed on the regular, have never touched nicotine/cigarettes because at least for cigs they smell disgusting and there's rat poison in them, they just smell nasty. Glad I never got into nicotine it sounds like a hard addiction to overcome but you can do it, mind over matter!
Both my parents died from cancers caused by smoking.. I loved them dearly and took care of them until the end .. smoking took my best friends brings me to tears as I type .. lost them far too young ..
Sorry for your lost 😞 I pray your okay and that your able to recover the fact that you took care of them till the end speaks volumes of the kind of person you are God bless you melissa.
I am crying with you, I’m an addict and my parents don’t know. Lucky I don’t have kids or wife because I definitely have a lot of healing to do. You are strong to be able to live through such a loss and be able to move on. I’m so sad for people that lose family to soon
On my third attempt, I am now one month nicotine free today and no longer feel the weight of the addiction that is just a mind game and once I realized that, I became so embarrassed and felt disgusted with every cigarette I smoked. I know so many that switched to vaping and became more hooked. I feel the difference in my breathing, exercise is more enjoyable, my skin is clearer and my teeth are whiter. Every time I interact with a smoker/vaper or walk by one, I feel so proud. I did it.
Yep you’re right it’s all in your mind now. The physical addiction you beat so great job and don’t you dare go back! You made it this far and just think you added back at least 10+ years of your life you could have lost from that addiction. Stay strong !
Congrats brother. I just beat my addiction as well, 3 weeks smoke free(no nicotine replacement therapy either, nothing). I vaped heavily for a year, and actually stopped Vaping and smoked cigarettes for 3 months before I quit. Imo, Vaping is way more addictive then cigarettes. I tried quitting Vape cold Turkey and couldn’t bro. That’s why I used cigarettes to get off. Vaping in my opinion is worse for the brain, a lot worse than cigarettes. Heavily concentrated doses of nicotine is NOT good for the brain. I remember times after taking fat vapes thinking to myself, this is not good for my brain, I’m either permanently or temporarily damaging my mind. Luckily my addiction was only for 1 year, so I’m praying I didn’t cause any permanent damage to my brain. I don’t think I did, I’ve been clean for 3 weeks now and I feel back to my old self. Haven’t felt these levels of mental clarity and ambition in awhile and I’m so fckin happy. Vaping especially robbed me of my motivation and ambition, shits terrible. Again, I’m proud of you for quitting brother! It’s amazing to read others peoples comments who have quit and are experiencing the same benefits as me. Stay up fam
@@Stampedby__bonetti Congrats man, keep it up! I’m in a similar situation, over the last year I vaped for 5 months or so, then switched to Zyn for several months, then quit that and ended up back on vapes. Lol nicotine is vicious. I quit vaping a few weeks ago, quit drinking a month ago, have been using a sauna every day for the last few weeks, have been running and lifting too, and I feel better than I have in ages. I can breath easier and my resting heart rate has dropped comfortably into the 40’s. Nicotine is such a waste of money and it really does wear on you
I started smoking 18 years ago as a teenage, Got addicted to cigarettes. Spent my whole life fighting Cigarettes addiction. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my mom recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, BPD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
Yes he's Dr.alishrooms. My daughter did straight shrooms in few days. Made her whole! after words, no more addictions, pains, ptsd and depression. It helped us.
Saw people talking about..checked him out, I must say he's good at what he does. My son is clean 1 year now. Good luck. just micro dose and you won't trip. Mushrooms helped my son get off opioid.
With cigs I was a pretty light smoker, 3-5 per day. When I switched to vaping, I would draw on it all day long, never going more than 15 minutes or so without a few puffs. When I started going into the bathroom at work several times a day to get a hit, I felt ridiculous and knew it had to stop. Vaping is SO much more addictive because of its accessibility. When I quit I was completely blown away by how calm I felt, unaware of the constant state of anxiety that nicotine kept me in. Like I was back to being myself.
True. Before quitting vaping I was contemplating just going back to a few cigs a day. Kinda seemed like a healthier alternative to vaping every living hour of the day lol
I'm going through that exact same thing right now. Puffing a vape every 15 mins, go crazy without one. Ducking off to the toilets no matter where I am to get a puff, i's nasty shit
I started having genuine panic attacks. I finally linked it directly to vaping. I've been off them for 20 days today. I haven't had any anxiety or panic attacks since I quit. No more headaches too. Pretty insane I felt the addiction was worth more than how awful it made me feel
I replaced the cigarette smoking with another type of high, which in this case was cold/hot plunge. With the extra energy, I picked up running, which gave me another high. From there, I just starting cooking again for myself. It's all about keeping busy helping others the best you can. @@kyle6781
For those struggling with nicotine addiction, I haven't found a better way to kick it than to become obsessed with something that doesn't allow you to smoke. I used to smoke and vape. I got into jumping rope (boxer style) for fitness followed by long-distance running. Now, if I thought about bumming a smoke from a buddy, I know that my running the next morning-something that is normally a pleasurable experience-would be miserable. Sometimes, these things can provide just enough distance between craving and response to give us the space to make better decisions.
I had smoked for about 15 years, and switched to nicotine gum for about 5 years without ever being able to stop. I switched to vaping, and was able to gradually taper myself off of nicotine by mixing the juice myself, and after vaping flavored juice with no nicotine for a month I was able to quit entirely. You will also find that the British Health System relies on vaping to reduce and quit smoking.
I was a smoker for 16 years. Back in my late teens and early twenties. I was in the military. We ran Mondays,Wednesdays and Fridays. Between 2-10 miles depending on who was leading the troop. I was a heavy smoker 1-11/2 packs a day. I also ran with a chew of red man in my cheek. Still alive now 60+. I quit smoking and chewing in 93.
I quit vaping just days after I got back into collecting and selling Pokemon. Without even meaning to! Like you said, I found something else that can be "addictive" but in a beneficial way.
I had a vaping phase. At first, a friend has it so you end up trying it. You think nothing of it, but next thing you know you're buying your own. What makes it so terrible is how easy it is. Eventually, you're fidgeting to take another puff every 10 seconds. I quit because I hated myself for the habit.
I’ve been completely sober 262 days and counting. Quite honestly one of the best decisions of my entire life. Having a clear mind; a clear sense of one self there’s nothing like it. Depending on myself to take care of problems rather than relying on an escape that’ll just create more health problems later on it’s just not worth it.
That's good to hear! Congrats. I'm on day 17th and already loving myself more :) I'm just struggling with productivity... May that have happened to you as well? I hope I keep getting more and more productive each day as I relied on vapes and THC to study and work without feeling it was shit
i quit vaping a few days ago. i used to smoke cigarettes and would never smoke a cigarette indoors but vaping, i would vape all day. i think the accessibility makes it worse than smoking cigarettes in the long run.
That really is the issue. I quit smoking years ago and was nicotine free for a time. But now that you can vape wherever, my body is addicted like it never was with cigarettes.
When are we gonna talk about how CZcams and podcasts have effected our dopamine levels in the context of addiction. I’ve wasted hours watching podcasts on how to be “healthy” and “optimal”. I feel like it leads you down a toxic path of perfection that is unattainable. It seems like all of us have forgotten how to be present in the moment without optimizing every little thing.
Everything is bad if no moderation.. do your self a favor. Pick one day a week where you don’t use technology. Let your body reset. Go outside in the morning and go outside when the sun is setting. Delete ig, facebook and other nonsense brain rot social media. Use CZcams with watch time warning to know you’re using the too much. I promise you’ll feel much better about your self. Hope this helps. Remember we get one life. Donte use it all on apps designed to steal away your time in life✊️⏳🙌💯
From someone who smoked for well over 30 years here is my assessment. I was a heavy smoker, 2+ packs a day. I was at the point for probably a decade where my breathing was short, people knew when I was around by my cough and in the mornings i would cough 💩 up sometimes to the point of puking. I transitioned from smoking to vaping, I was a dual smoker/vaper for some time and eventually put the cigs away. For me, I can tell you I feel 100 times better, dont cough, not short of breath and just feel better overall. With that being said I dont know what the long term effects hold for my future. Ive been vaping now for about 3 years.
Same here bro. Started smoking at 16 and smoked a pack a day for 10 years. I think the biggest down side is that I feel more addicted to nicotine now but overall 100% better physically
All the young people I work around vape and I hear them coughing all the day year round. Don’t fool yourselves into believing it is any better for you then smoking
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Does anyone know any good source to get them? I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels, would love to give shrooms a try.
It’s really about your intention, addiction is an attempt to escape some form of suffering, the best thing you can do is face your issues and suffering
Almost 5 months clean from Cannabis, tobacco, caffeine and alcohol. I’m 25 & started cannabis with tobacco at 16. Quit everything cold turkey cause i had an elevated blood pressure and feel pretty safe to say that I will never go back to that lifestyle!
That must’ve been hell giving up all that at once. I had to ween off one by one slowly (besides caffeine I absolutely hate the way caffeine makes me feel)
28, I've been battling nicotine addiction with cigarettes but mostly vaping (juul, disposables) for over 14 years. I've quit for 8 months and then started vaping again for 4 months. I'm recently 90 days nicotine free again. It is such an evil battle that convinces me to indulge for a 4 second minor morning buzz that I chase the rest of the day which never comes due to the frequency in which I vape. What's crazy is that after extended periods of quitting it actually takes 'work' to get back into it because my body has healed so much. This last relapse was over a week of heavy coughing after each hit and not enjoying any part of it, yet I still continued and got addicted again. Thank you for this video
never related to anything more lol. The morning buzz that lasts for 5 seconds followed by puffing on it the rest of the day chasing the same feeling that will never come again until next morning
@@eduardosierraasame here, vaping for about 5 or 6 years on and off, 25 years old. Ive been off for about 2 months now, going to stay off for real this time!
@@vincentpernicano3277nicotine pouches like Velo really helped me quit for good. I used them for 3 months after quitting vaping and now I’m completely nicotine free for the past 6 months. Elite athletes (such as PL footballers) use them regularly and they’ve been used in Nordic countries for many years
I started vaping casually like a year and a half ago, hitting coworkers vapes a bit while at work. That morphed into consistently hitting friends' vapes while they were around and that then morphed into me finally buying a disposable vape for the first time about 6 weeks ago or so. As of November 1st however, the sale of flavored vape products has been banned where I live and honestly I'm quite happy about it. I was set to keep on buying those disposables as long as they were available. I never had a history of smoking before I ever touched a vape besides a few cigarettes (and not counting weed).
I remember when they banned methanol cigarettes and honestly I was so annoyed but that turned out to be the best thing they did. I don’t think I could have stopped if they didn’t ban them
I always contributed smoking and vaping as a way to combat anxiety. You fiddling, the deep breathing thats a side effect of inhaling. Makes people feel good
I was a social smoker for quite a few years and never once felt addicted. I’d only smoke when a drank a few throughout the night. I stopped for years. A few years ago I tried vaping and let me tell you it’s 100 times more addictive. I found myself wanting it ALL the time. Had to work really hard to quit and even now even I drink I want it.
Agreed. Over the years I’ve been a social smoker at times and never thought about going out to buy cigarettes on my own, but with vaping being so much more discreet it’s really easy for it to get its hooks in you. I never wanted to smell like cigarettes so I didn’t buy them, but I started buying vapes and just stepping into a restroom or around a corner to hit them everywhere I went. Once you quit for a while you realize how silly the addiction is, but man it really takes you for a ride
@@BeforeThisNovember for me because vaping doesn’t have all the unappealing factors of smoking actual cigarettes. I find cigarettes gross when I’m sober, they taste and smell bad. Vaping tastes and smells good so I found it much more tempting to vape more often. I’ve since cut it out all together.
@@x3lea866 I completely agree. I quit smoking for around 8 years and started again in lockdown (idiot). Not long after I replaced it with vaping and I’m still tryna quit that. Quitting cigs is way easier for reasons you said. And vaping you can just sit in your house hitting it none stop ..
Another reason podcasts can have the same guests and not lose views is because subject matters are more complex than a few minutes of discussion can cover, that people aren't as dumb as the media would have us believe. People have a genuine curiosty about everything and nuance is not lost on them.
Or maybe there are tens of millions of people who devour this kind of content, and a lot of dumb people. I'm a crossover: I'm dumb _and_ love this content :)
Quit vaping cold turkey a month ago, I feel a literal veil off my eyes has been lifted, everything flows clearer in my mind and my performance in the gym is much increased. My libido as well has had a boost. To be honest, cigarettes felt less harmful… WAKE UP
IMO vaping is invaluable only if use for quitting smoking … include quitting vaping a the end . I quite 16 years of smoking thanks to vaping. And I quite vaping after 2 years. That was 11 years ago Before that I had try everything without success. In the other end I think just replacing smoking by vaping on the Long run is not a good idea. It has to be a step helping for quitting.
Smoked cigarettes for seven years. Been vaping for about four. The comparisons aren't even close. Cigarettes you could just see and feel how unhealthy they are. It's better not to do it and be dependent on it, sure, but anyone with actual long term experience smoking cigarettes in comparison knows it's not even close.
100% agree. I would only "recommend" vaping to people who just cannot seem to kick the cigs. It's obviously still not healthy, but I feel miles healthier and especially I can breathe better.
while i agree with how cigarettes “feel”, i started rolling my own with loose tobacco and for me, it’s better than both boxed cigs and vaping smoked a ‘normal’ cig a month after i switched to rolling and it felt like smoking 100% chemicals; vaping makes my mouth feel like it’s laced with metal self-rolled cigs take 1/3 of the time to smoke, don’t feel as nasty, and the whole process disincentivizes smoking. lmao so i’d argue that it’s a slightly better bridge between smoking and not smoking compared to vaping, but again that’s just my experience
Yep this is what annoys me. We are watching a legion of people who are NOT involved with this try to take down one of the most successful smoking cessation methods to EVER exist. A bunch of none smokers rubbing their fu cking nose in it. I smoked for over 10 years. Ive been on and off vaping for about 5 or 6 years now? The difference in my health is night and day. I can breathe. My cardios better. My gums arent rapidly receding anymore. I dont feel like shit all the time from THOUSANDS of chemicals from the combustion of carbon floating around my body. My throats not raspy. Im not coughing up tar. The list goes on. Its NIGHT AND DAY. And we are about to lose it to fu cking chinese vapes, propaganda and civilians being fu cking nosey. This whole thing is a grand display of the utter Lack of cognition happening on a communal scale. If we lose vaping to this i will spend the rest of my life jaded and cynical towards people. They are more than happy to take away your vices and hobbies while they sit on theirs. Its literally human nature. And If it does get banned. Guess who wins? Big Tobacco. Has anyone ever wondered how the importation of MILLIONS of *Illegal* Chinese vapes even makes it into the country in the first place? Bit weird that border patrol just closes up shop on those days dont you think? Nah no one thinks. Just braindead lobby against vaping because thats what the hivemind is doing atm.
Nothing beats addicts justifying the type of poison they can't quit. At least some of you admit they're idiots for starting to smoke. I have people around me who smoke their all lives and I despise it. Arguably the most common annoying disgusting thing in my life. And entirely come from other people and not myself.
that episode is extremely eye-opening, and I've seen tons of people cite it as the final nail in the coffin of their alcohol addiction. I haven't quit entirely, but I went from drinking more than a 6 pack every single day for many years, to having a beer or two with lunch 2 or 3 times a week, and that episode is what made me really reflect on what I was doing to myself and finally make some changes.
@@konkeydonged slow and incremental progress is far better than quitting instantly, atleast in terms of the chance of getting addicted again + the withdrawals
something to consider: I vaped way more nicotine than I smoked. The detriment nicotine withdrawal had on my sleep - particularly with regards to sleep fragmentation or disruptions - was something I only realized when I switched to patches and kept them on at night. My sleep improved so much and was worse when I vaped vs smoking cigs. This week I went from a 7mg patch to 1mg a day of silver malboros. Definitely less healthy, but these companies don't make patches smaller and most are not cuttable (it's almost like they want you to stay addicted).
Exactly! If you want an accurate depiction of what nicotine addiction free sleep will be like, talk to your doc about getting patches, your insurance should cover it, I paid 0 for mine. Just try it once, you will be shocked and it was just heuristically create motivation to quit.@@jimirsayssponsor5844
@@FIshfood500same.. I don’t vape those salt nic gas station vapes, but I have a vape mod and vape 3mg nic juice, and my lungs, my sleep, everything feels fine 🤷🏻♂️
I'm honestly interested in seeing the citations for a number of his statements. I know a lot of the negative Health reports regarding vaping had to do with black market made THC vape cartridges w Vit E acetate. Quite a few people including myself use high quality ingredient and regulated nicotine juice. In general it sounds like he's referring to the worst of the worst and combining them all under one umbrella. I'm sure it's not great for health and if it's very minimal like the European Union study said then I'm fine with it for now
@RoRo-gn9pv harsh dude. I like seeing citations and learning. That's literally what my statement was about above. I've actually been tracking the studies that come out. And again, I don't claim that it improves health and in line with all the solid research I've seen so far especially if you rule out the vitamin E acetate the risks look to be very minimal, if thats the case Ill keep using. Especially if you're a person that uses quality and regulated juice.
ye but he was talking about chemicals crossing the blood brain barrier. This THC and Vit E thing is assosiacted with these things in your lung, and even if it does more damage, this should be the first thing mentioned imo, but he didnt. Still, leaving out Sucralose, Acetoin and colorant is already a great reduction in risk, so Im also curious what he was refering to exactly. And if you only vape the base+nicotin it should be basically harmless.
@@TheUnrider gave me the ick when he talked about "this and that crosses blood-brain barrier, introduces so many toxins into your body, etc. etc.". How about naming specifically what you are talking about? There's so many variables in vaping, that it's already hard enough to do studies (like 15W mouth-to-lung vs. 200W direct-to-lung as an example). Sounds more like fear-mongering to me instead of the usual factual research he's citing.
The only people who defend these smoking vaping habits and "I want specifics" are addicts. Whatever you want to tell yourself about "it's not that bad" it's your addiction speaking. At least most people know that it's really bad and just admit the can't quit because they're completely addicted and don't care about negatives. But then there's you bunch that just "give me details why it bad, or it means its totally justified cus I'm so smart because there's no proper studies YET".cigaretes were recommended by doctors even to children. So don't pretend to be some genius that you vape ATM
The only benefit I can see from my past nicotine addiction (cigarettes then vaping) is that I can now better detect when I'm becoming addicted to something. My phone, a certain behavior, the ability to get drawn into something with a net negative-these all feel like when I craved a cig or a rip on a vape pen. That doesn't mean I don't regret those years of addiction, but it is an interesting silver lining to years of bodily damage.
I started smoking when I was 13 and started vaping a year ago at 44. I feel so much better vaping and I can actually take deep breaths now. People may say vaping is bad but as someone who smoked for most of their life and then vaping, vaping is such a better option health wise for Me.
I had a 4 year kratom habit, daily. It stopped me stealing my stepdads meds, stopped me taking close to dangerous amounts of cocodamol. 4 years and when I quit I had little to no withdrawals. I quit once but read people's stories about quitting and withdrawals and experienced withdrawals from it that time but when I decided to quit and not put the possibility of placebo withdrawals it wasn't a problem at all. It should be legal globally.
I am in the process of quit vaping is so hard I had 1 day and a half and I came back for one day and now I am on track again, is so hard is because of my believes about smoking I have to brake my believes that this is cool because it is not at all !! Thanks for this podcasts !
This is not a very informative discussion. Some people vape cannabis and some people vape nicotine. And there are countless different vape strengths and flavours available, which all contain different blends of ingredients and chemicals and different amounts of nicotine and cannabis.. You can also vape flavourless juice containing only glycerine and nicotine, which I do.
Yeah, I'm glad I realized how detrimental it was to my body. Vaped for 5 years and quit both vaping and alcohol when I was 23; I'm 27 now and trying to reverse all the senseless things I've done to my body with a horrible diet growing up, then vaping and drinking through college.
@@yegheieu I vaped for 5 years; had back to back bronchitis lasting roughly 6 months each, at one point I was coughing up a cup of green mucus from my lungs a day, if not more. I for sure have some lung scarring from vaping and the associated lung infections. And on top of that, my drinking habits were quite bad, I blacked out almost every time I drank.
Good job starting in your mid 20s. Most wait till their 30s and that's after everything really starts catching up with them and it's that much harder to reverse.
I've been vaping for maybe 15 years. I used to smoke 20 Lambert and Butlers a day and always had colds, coughs etc. I smoke the Vape 88 liquids and they seem fine to me honestly. When I switched from smoking to vaping my lungs cleared themselves out and I very rarely get ill now. Maybe once every 3 years or so. I can go months without exercise and get on a treadmill / out on the road and can run 5k without too much bother honestly. The fact is, like he said, we just don't know. No risk, no story I guess.
what has struck me most is the amount of vaping people now do. They smoked far less cigarettes in comparison to how much people vape. I would be interested to see the data in several years down the line.
I quit vaping one year agooo 🎉 because a loved ond convinced me to try. Ever since my health has been so good and tbh I don’t miss it. With every day that passes I just see more things that prove that vaping is very dangerous and bad for my health. You can do it!!! ☺️
Do you ever get cravings or miss it? If not, how long would you say it took for them to go away? I’m on day nine and the cravings the last two days have been worse than when I just started. Hope it’s not like this my whole life lol
@@beccamartin6270 heyyy! Not anymore. But at the beginning i had to get distance from my friends who kept vaping cause they weren't helping me. I craved it a lot for at least 1 month and from then I occasionally craved it but not as much. When you reach the 3M mark you won't miss it. You can do it!!
What about the local vape juice’s with only propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, and food grade flavoring? It sounds like you guys are talking about the gas station stuff that doesn’t even list the ingredients.
So do I. Keep in mind it takes about 20 years on average for the first signs of damage to become obvious. I didn't say it takes 20 years of nicotine use to damage you, only to do enough damage to start being visible. Vapes have been around for decades but got the first patent in 2003 and only started being generally used a few years after that so we're on the cusp of those key 2 decades. And realistically even 20 years is still the beginning, you start seeing the damage exponentially with time with way more at 30 and 40 years. This sounds like a long time but if you start vaping in your teens its just enough to cut your life short. Remember tobacco users lose about 10-25 years of life expectancy with their decade or so often marked by illnesses caused by their vice. Realize that studies have already shown emphysematous changes to the lifetime vapers' only lungs even if they never smoked. Obviously nicotine toasts your circulation with the primary cause of death and disease in this drug's users not being cancer, but cardiovascular and it isn't the tars either because pipe, cigar and oral/smokeless tobacco users (which receive greater dosages of this pesticide) having a greater degree of circulatory death and disease. They lie and say "NICOTINE HAS NEVER BEEN SHOWN TO CAUSE CANCER" but the most potent carcinogens in tobacco (or any nicotine product for that matter) are tobacco specific nitrosamines which come about as a byproduct of nicotine degradation just sitting there. So any form of nicotine is loaded with this deadly poison as well including the patches and gum. Therefore your anecdotal feeling is just because we're not yet noticing and tying 2 and 2 together but based on what we already know about nicotine itself and the dynamics of introducing this poison in your body it is extremely likely in the coming 3-5 years there will be some big studies coming out about the harms of vaping as well..
@@Pablophd1965 if we are expecting to see the same or similar effects as tobacco, i do not think we will see much. I want to know which chemical in vape liquid is the culprit and some further details.
@@Pablophd1965oh you're such a smart fu*king parrot! If they had instruments back then to check they wouldn't have to wait for the "yet" with cigarettes. Also the humanity wasn't as weak as today's so negatives were slower or none. Right now you can check how vaping is affecting you and you can feel it. No need for 2030s scientists to tell you.
23 years old. Prob started around 17/18. Slowly quitting. Went cold turkey the first two days and used pouches (2 a day actually pretty helpful) now 10 hits a day for a week. Then -5 next week. Then cut to zero by the end of the month. I do like nicotine so I’ll end up using gum when I want it. Quitting is honestly not as bad as I thought. I think in the past I’ve failed cuz deep down I didn’t actually care to quit. But now i feel way more in control. So far so good on the journey. I wasn’t planning on doing it forever so it’s time. We got this 🤝
I have fainted multiple times since I started vaping and I am constantly nauseous, tired, anxious and depressed. Despite all of this, quitting was not an option for me. It is my crutch and my vice. I wasn’t ready to quit, however I have finally arrived at a place where I am committed to quitting. Currently going through withdrawals and wanting to vape is consuming my mind. Hoping it subsides soon. Pray for me lol
your probaly smoking a shit ton of nicrotine then, im vaping 0 nicotine and im never addicted to it, ive even went entire 2 years without vaping on nicotine
That's what I find strange. Even cigarettes don't make me tired but vaping for a few days like I tried a couple of times makes me slow, tired, sleepy, low bp...
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother Perhaps on this one singular issue, yes. I think I can forgive him for not being on the cutting edge of vape science. There's really not a ton of studies to go on especially not in North America. The Royal College of Physicians conducted a 10 year double blind study claiming freebase vaping was 99.5% safer than cigarettes, but it really doesn't matter much. Most ways to access freebase nicotine vaping (making juice to order on location, building coils by hand with materials known to be safe and not covered in chemicals) were made explicitly illegal because of the teen vaping scare. Juul really did ruin it for everyone.
Oh no bro they're totally in control. They have this addiction by the balls. They're such strong and brave people for choosing vape over cigaretes. Modern day knights.
I quit vaping and am now on a lower mg nicotine gum. The amount of nicotine you intake with a vape is much more than most realize as people puff on it all day long. I know I would when I vaped. Since quitting, my anxiety has also improved
@@nightcoreamv6462 the vaping device itself can be harmful to your lungs by exposing them to metal, since nearly all vaporizers for nicotine contain conductive heating. So it isn't just the juice to worry about. BTW, I'm not condemning anything, just trying to provide helpful info
same for me, I've been vaping for 5 years after 7 years of cigarrettes and now I use 2mg nicotine gum. The irony of using one nicotine substitute against another
I quit vaping because of Doc Hubermans nicotine episode. Thanks Doc, totally worth the three weeks of crawling out of my own skin to be free of that garbage.
@@tylerdrymanit took myself 2 weeks, a little less than 2 actually. Im guessing Carolyn probably wasn’t smoking that long and that’s why it only took her 3 weeks. Like myself, I smoked for 1 year only. So I think that’s why my withdrawal was so short which I’m happy about tbh. It’s great being smoke free, now feeling normal again I realize how much of my mind smoking was occupying. I can use all my attention and mind on things that actually matter in my life, goals and such. Smoking greatly hindered that so much, basically made me a zombie shit sucked.
@@Stampedby__bonettithanks for sharing. Ive been vaping for about 5 years unfortunately, got caught up in it early in high school. I think im going to make a run trying to stop but im worried about me getting right back into it, even if i was able to quit for a few weeks
Oh I should mention what I did when I quit to help me stay with it. That is I constantly was looking at the timeline each week of how your health improves over a few days or weeks or months after smoking. I mean I literally looked at it all the time. I ended up having to stay really busy. Shoveling snow for hours. Sleeping more. But I did whatever I could to stop smoking. I also thought if my sister who was more addicted then me could quit I could too. And it is really truly worth it!!! I smoked for 16 years before quitting.
I went 11 months and never felt better, however alcohol can be a slippery slope, especially if your surrounded by smokers/vapers. I relapse after my first drinking session, there’s something about vaping while drinking that makes me feel on top of the world. Of course that never ends well. Work stress caused me to relapse a second time, I need to find other ways to cope with stress
I smoked for 43 years. I quit almost 5 years ago using vaping for maybe 6 months. Started forgetting it at home. Figured it was time to say no. Replacing nicotine never helped me quit. When I feel I must try one again, I do. I take one draw and think to myself yuck! How did I ever smoke this. I honestly don’t think nicotine is what I was ever addicted to. I grab a vape as well only when I’m under major stress. Then I put it down and no withdrawal ever.
Vaping is a great tool for quitting cigarettes that should then be withdrawn through gum/pouches then nothing. I completed this process myself and have been nicotine-free for 6 months. What’s poor is to see people who never smoked a cigarette starting vaping largely due to targeted marketing.
You can transition to no nicotine vape juice too. I use unflavored with very low nicotine. I was vaping no nicotine for two years but when I traveled out of state I couldn’t get it without nicotine. (That was in 2011 so options were limited back then).
I didn't get anything from this. There were no specifics regarding what exactly in vaping would cause any harm. Also, it sounds like Huberman assumed vaping meant vaping marijuana. I'm usually a fan of him, but he was all over the place with this one.
quitting cigarettes was the hardest thing I've ever done but i would not of been able to do it without vaping and now this year am vape free also there is an good reason to use these
I have a good female friend. She has been trying for 4 years to have kids. Recently she went through a series of doctors and it turns out she can not have kids anymore. Her eggs and hormones went poof a couple of years ago at around the age of 32. Smoking was probably a major factor. She is completely devastated and depressed because of it. I always told her that her smoking is stupid. Sadly, I was right. Learn from her mistake.
It seems Andrew has a personal grudge with vaping and seems to be more based on his emotions, than science. He keeps saying it is so bad, but never really gets to why. The lung damage it caused in US teens were due to illicit vapes with vitamin E. The only shown carcinogen in vaping is formaldehyde but it comes in quantities of 1/100 of that of smoking and only if your vape is burning at a too high temperature. For reference, here is an article from Uk Cancer Research, essentially concluding that it is not cancerous. Other studies I've seen put its health impact at around 5% of that of smoking. Personally, my suspicion is that he has children in the "vaping age" and would rather be safe than sorry.
I like how Andrew talks about the negatives to vaping scientifically rather than these "Quit vaping" commercials that don't even explain why they just try to make trendy videos with younger people telling you to stop. Thank you Andrew for the knowledge and Chris for hosting a great podcast.
Wasn’t there a research that supports vaping is 95% less dangerous then cigarettes. I don’t know how you view injecting nicotine as being more healthy than vaping.
Nicotine as a substance has never been specifically bad (or good). It has its own advantageous and deleterious effects depending on why you use it. The main difference between smoking and vaping as nicotine delivery systems is you are simply swapping one cluster of toxic chemicals and additives for another, less understood and potentially just as (if not more) harmful cocktail of chemicals. Injecting pure nicotine could be reasoned to be better by someone in need of their fix. Vaping is far more addictive than smoking for me, not just for ease of use, but you get massive concentrations of nicotine instantly. Regardless, nicotine or any sort of self-"medication" belies a deeper indication of poor health, whether it be physical, mental, or spiritual.
No there weren't. That's just marketing. They say it's better because it's not smoking, but it basically is smoking anyway. Burning anything is gonna produce shitloads of nasty chemicals. Injecting pure nicotine would get you nicotine without coating your lungs with freaky synthetic oil smoke. Nicotine itself isn't so dangerous compared to all the other chemicals that most people take in by smoking or vaping
You’re mistaken. Propylene glycol is practically anti-freeze. You can eat it in small amounts because it passes through. But that doesn’t mean your lung tissue has the ability to clear those substances.
Vaping helped me kick a 20 year smoking habit. My sense of smell came back and was able to swim the length of an Olympic sized pool underwater on one breath again. I find vaping to be a much better alternative to smoking.
Wrong. The best way to quit cigarettes is to read a book by Allen Carr called “Easyway to Quit Smoking”. It’s $15 which is cheaper than vaping, and there is no willpower involved.
@@PBNIP I AM fried. I’m also a non-smoker now because I read the book. I read his quit drinking alcohol book 10 years ago and haven’t had a drink since. Do you have a better way to quit stupid addictions?
@@coopj250 correct, but the book costs like $12. The price of 2 packs of cigarettes. If it doesn’t work, you’re out $12. If it does work, you saved $12 in 1 or 2 days just by not having to buy cigarettes. Other methods are a lot more expensive, and none have a better success rate. If your car engine was making a noise, wouldn’t you take a chance on a $5 bottle of oil additive before taking it to a mechanic and replacing the engine?
I would really love for content creators around these topics to make a unbiased talk about the effects of, for example vaping, but also give an explanation about how our body handles these substances, and how it rebounds post usage. So much of the content is "this is bad because I say so and I have this degree/phd/title so you should believe me" Im not saying Andrew Huberman isn't far more qualified than myself to make judgements on topics such as nicotine vaping, but all I heard here was "we are inhaling these chemicals into our lungs" yet everyone whos been taught anything about cigarette smoking is is the timeline of how our bodies repair after quitting. Our bodies have the ability to repair themselves, but that point is often over looked. Taking one hit isn't doing permanent, irreversible damage. Smoking weed isn't doing that either. Abusing any substance, or abusing anything (video games) is inherently bad, but simply saying "this is bad" and not properly educating people on why its bad and where the effects are felt the most, and how to go about managing them or using in moderation is simply unproductive.
Totally agree......trying to "educate" or "motivate" people courtesy of one's academic authority (or hubris) is tantamount to how religious priests and clerics behave. I.E "You should refrain from this thing because somebody smarter and more powerful than you (god, Jesus, Allah etc) .....doesn't LIKE this habit and considers it a sin...." These kind of invocations mean JACK to sooo many people because they remove authority, ownership and responsibility from the individual and instead try to employ a kind of "second hand" sense of obligation which not only doesn't work....it (quite rightly) makes many people rebel against this kind of "motivational" model.....because deep down, they KNOW it's just one big croc of sh*t.....even if the advice being given is wise and sound. People MUST be treated as having personal ownership before you try to motivate them, and if you try to "cheat code" that.....well.....good luck reaching your target audience!!
Well said! No one is going to be convinced to give up all their vices for the sake of health, because there is so much anecdotal evidence of people using certain substances, and living healthy lives (on the more mild side of substances) and even people who abuse harder substances, get clean, and live healthy lives. Keep the "this is what this substance does to your body" but follow up with "this is how our body fights its and how it can be managed/balanced/reversed." @@donnietobasco9791
I’m not trying to say vaping is safe but I have done fairly heavily for years and get up at 4am 5 times a week and run 3 miles with no real issues so far.
I have enjoyed nicotine for the last 2 years but watching this vid and hearing 'blood brain barrier' 3 weeks ago drew an absolute line in the sand for me. I was not a heavy user but was an every day user. I dealt with mood issues and headaches for the first 2 days after quitting but then was golden. I use sunflower seeds to fulfill the oral fixation. Also, cut back on tequila shots from 10-15 per week (2-3 days) to a max of 5 in a week (1 day). Feeling great!
Im a vaper and have been for a long time there are many different reasons why but not only do I like doing it but I like collecting vaping gear. I'm glad I switched but I also know that not doing anything is by far better for you. But here I am .
Except one is objectively more healthy for you by an order of magnitudes. Chinese disposable vapes are RUINING the publics perception and RUINING vaping for people who actually need it. @@RolandKoller90
Every time I see professionals having this discussion they don't mention one huge element that differs between vaping and smoking that I have observed with my friends (ages ranging 18-36), and that is the frequency of use. With vaping, due to the lack of stinky smoke, people will be ripping constantly throughout the day. I had one girl tell me about an ex boyfriend who would reach for his vape in the middle of the night and hit it with his eyes still closed. If you compare this with the natural barriers that come with smoking (the need to go outside if you don't want your house to smell terrible, the need to out on shoes/clothes to go outside, etc.) then you find that there are a lot of casual smokers that might only be smoking a few cigarettes a week, usually at night on the weekend when they're out with people. I have been surprised by how many people who smoke are not chain smokers like I was led to belief growing up, and that there is a huge range in people who partake in cigarette smoking, whereas everyone I know who buys vapes will be vaping very frequently throughout the day. I don't think it is accurate to refer to it as "smoking vs vaping" because they always talk about smokers as people smoking a pack a day, which I think is something more common in older generations. Living in LA I've observed groups of actors, dancers, models in their mid to late thirties, and they don't vape, they will smoke like 3-4 cigarettes a day max on days that they spend hanging out by the pool with their friends. That's just their vibe. I hope that these older researchers spend more time understanding how these drugs are being used in different populations instead of only studying what it does to the body.
I am convinced vaping effects female sexual health. As someone who quit smoking cigs and switched to vaping, I saw a tremendous change in my hormones. I was no longer interested in sex, I felt very depressed, anxious and overall mentally unwell. I have now quit vaping all together (not going back!) and find myself feeling more in tune with with body on a variety of levels. Needless to say, vaping is dangerous. There are not enough studies put out there for people, mostly young adults, to know what they are actually doing to their bodies and it's terrifying. If you are a woman who is vaping, may this resonate with you. Some of your ailments might dwindle once you stop injesting unknown chemicals mixed with highly addictive nicotine.
My uncle was a heavy smoker (2 packs a day). Life had been very hard towards him, being deeply in love his kids mom. After being seperated, she took all what he owned and he still supplied her. For years, he used to live a very lonely life and my dad supported him with money, his children only visiting him when they needed money, and he didnt have enough to feed himself but still gave them all what he had on him. Once his brother went to visit him, knocking on the door, left without answer, he panicked. After they opened the door, they found peacifully dead as little child on the couch, beside him his cigarette cup. I did not have a relation to him, but he broke my heart and i had an unconditional love to him. I cried for days. Me he rest in peace.
I was a heavy smoker for 32 years. I quit a few times, once for almost 5 years, and was miserable, I just never got over the “urge”. In 2009 I googled electric cigarettes and surprisingly, there was such a thing so I ordered one. I’ve been vaping now for 14 years and it has drastically improved my life compared to smoking. Almost immediately I could go up and down the stairs, and play basketball and ride a bike without being out of breath. I get unflavored with a low nicotine content. The nicotine “hit” is nice but for me it’s always been more about the ritual of holding it and puffing the “smoke”. I wish I’d never smoked but I did and at my age I’m going to continue vaping.
I did kratom for over a year and half and man was it gnarly getting off of it, I couldn’t sleep for 3 days, constantly uncomfortable. Don’t get started on kratom it will mess you up if you take it long term.
Considering most non salt nic vape juice is composed of 3 ingredients vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, and nicotine I have to call bullshit on these findings.
Have fun finding out in 20 years 😭 I wouldn’t trust what those labels say especially if it’s a Beijing AC UNIT. If it’s only 3 ingredients where does the flavor come from, even more chemicals then 3 i can guarantee that for sure. Please sit down with your nonsensical comment and read research and not just watch CZcams videos😅
"It's expensive" Yeah, £1/week. That's the thing. It's cheap AF if you have a refillable device and buy juice in bulk. You can also get unflavoured e-liquid. Just pure medical grade glycerine used in inhalers and nicotine. Not defending vaping. It's still bad for you. But we need to get our facts straight here.
I wish Chris had called out Huberman on citing studies on vaping being linked to cancer that have all since been RETRACTED. Time and time again research shows vaping to be far less of a risk than smoking and the Royal College of Physicians periodically revisits their assertion that vaping is "at least 95% safer than smoking" and comes back with a similar conclusion. I'm also really tired of Huberman being touted as this figure of infinite wisdom. He's obviously a brilliant man in his field but the fact that he doubles down on his bias instead of acknowledging errors shows he's just like any other flawed researcher or the COVID zealots that doubled down instead of backing off.
100%! As much as I like Andrew, on the vaping question he seems to be driven by emotions rather than science and comes across as just another hysterical soccer mom.
And he cites "chemicals" that vaping creates when unlike cigarettes, proper vape liquid contains three ingredients, nicotine, propylene glycol (in asthma puffers) and vegetable glycerine.
I smoked a pack and a half a day for 20 years tried quitting for 15 years of that. Switched to vaping and within a year I weaned down to zero nicotine then dropped it altogether. Vaping is a wonderful tool for quitting nicotine, any other use is ridiculous.
How can you just talk about " vaping" vaping what? there are so many formulations . The most basic being prop. glycol, glycerine and nicotine. It's akin to saying eating is bad for you.
Former kratom addict...kratom, like any other drug should not be illegal. I cannot use any drug including kratom successfully for some reason that I don't understand, and it destroys my life. Kratom can, and should be used successfully by people who need/want it.
Never touched opiates but I am heavily dependent on Kratom. It’s my own fault and I knew the risks, I did it anyway. I can’t sleep without it, I need it every 8 hours and the withdrawls while not as horrific as heroin are definitely really unpleasant. I’ll be quitting at the end of the year not because I want to but because I have no choice. That said it’s such a great time, I feel really fantastic on it even at the same dose I’ve been taking for over 3 years now.
I smoked cigarettes for 12 years , vaped for 2 years after the cigarettes. In those 2 years of vape, my lungs have never been so bad. I run way less then when I smoked cigarettes and honestly feel way worse then cigarettes. I used to be able to run 2 miles straight when smoked 12 years of cigarettes. Now I’m barely at 1 mile after I switch to a vape.
Im really happy i was able to quit smoking right before vaping became common place ('09). I may not have been able to stop if i transitioned to vaping.
I’m 7 days clean of vaping. Never smoked before. Picked it up 2 years ago when I was 32. Can’t believe how addicted I am/was. The physical comedown has gone but the mental side effects will be here for a long time
I would like Andrew to list all of those toxins from vaping. I ask because vape juice has 4 ingredients: VG, PG, nicotine and flavors. These toxins must be in the flavoring agents and they vary from flavor to flavor. Therefore, there could be a way of reducing harm by looking at those.
It would be helpful to see the actual research and evidence for Huberman's drastic characterization of vaping. Given the amount of resources dedicated to the anti-smoking campaigns, you'd think there would be plenty of evidence available.
I went from smoking cigarettes to vaping, which I did constantly. I noticed a massive brain fog and my joints hurt which was brand new . One day I decided to toss my vape in a trash can on a walk. Took up chewing lots of gum it’s been about a year and a half now
Vaping seems even more ridiculous here in new Zealand given since I could remember as a child our country has pushed so hard to disincentivise smoking, by similar to the UK banning it in so many public spaces, and taxing the crap out of it making it so expensive. But here's a cheaper tastier alternative that's even more attractive to the youth 🤦😂 absolute lunacy. How about we try harder to get rid of meth in our country by releasing a cheaper version that tastes like strawberry cheesecake? 😂
I quite smoking by going to vaping then quitting that. Vaping did not really do it for me. To much hassle with oil, electricity, break downs and it just never really satisfied me. But it did remove the edge from quitting smoking. I feel that you are doing more harm then good with this video
One study that almost never gets talked about is the HEAT from vaping has the similar damage as smoking. You are putting hot air into your lungs which are pillow soft tissue. This in long due time has negative effects, Any one thats been to a Suana has felt this pain of breathing in hot air for to long, thus why we don't stay in one for an hour, well one of many reasons But ether way vaping could just be flavored water as many here use, still has negative effects and honestly looks stupid.. "OOHHH wait for me guys i gotta charge my Vape...." Dork
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@@v1kt0u5 there are 2 trillion articles saying its safer method
Maybe you guys shouldn't go outside, it's pretty scary out there. We wouldn't want you to breathe anything but pure oxygen.
You know . . because you might just drop dead.
Going to bed now with my carrot juice and a good ol' book.
Hi
I vaped for the first time two weeks ago. Bought a vaping device , put liquid in that contained small amounts of nicotine.
After vaping my throat started to feel sore. I then developed throat inflammation / infection, and with catarrh gathering in the throat. 2 weeks later i still have the throat soreness.
Anyone know why that is and why it happened ? I didnt vape heavily
Quit vaping(MJ) and alcohol 3 months ago cold turkey, at 31yo, felt ashamed of doing damage to my one and only body, but enough is enough. Combined with regular exercise I have never felt better and have never slept better, it's amazing, like a another level of life unlocked.
How did you get over nicotine withdrawals? I’m a recovering alcoholic (3.5 years) and quit all drugs. I run an average of 8 miles a day. But I can’t quit vaping. I’ve tried several times but anytime I’ve tried, the withdrawals turn me into a raging asshole to the point where I almost can’t control it. The last time I tried it really screwed with my relationship. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I did the same a little over 2 months ago. Withdrawals are nothing. Almost entirely mental. Once you make a decision to quit and stick with the decision, only you can stop yourself.
UPDATE: today marks 9 months without a cigarette. The hard part is getting yourself to make the leap and commit to quitting. It's all pretty easy from there. Nicotine leaves your body fairly quickly (3 days if I'm not mistaken), so after that, if you're having cravings, it's all mental and you're letting yourself succumb to a fantasy of desire. You don't need it. Just drop it. Live a life of freedom and health. You can do it!
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@@Dapryor Should clarify, I was vaping weed on the regular, have never touched nicotine/cigarettes because at least for cigs they smell disgusting and there's rat poison in them, they just smell nasty. Glad I never got into nicotine it sounds like a hard addiction to overcome but you can do it, mind over matter!
@@Dapryorid recommend using zyn pouches. You’ll stay addicted but its a completely safe and honestly enjoyable way to consume nicotine
Both my parents died from cancers caused by smoking.. I loved them dearly and took care of them until the end .. smoking took my best friends brings me to tears as I type .. lost them far too young ..
Sorry for your lost 😞 I pray your okay and that your able to recover the fact that you took care of them till the end speaks volumes of the kind of person you are God bless you melissa.
Good.
@@cameupstarvin7351what’s wrong with you, I feel bad for both of you in completely different ways
I am crying with you, I’m an addict and my parents don’t know. Lucky I don’t have kids or wife because I definitely have a lot of healing to do. You are strong to be able to live through such a loss and be able to move on. I’m so sad for people that lose family to soon
@@robertworton2394 I’m Glad.
On my third attempt, I am now one month nicotine free today and no longer feel the weight of the addiction that is just a mind game and once I realized that, I became so embarrassed and felt disgusted with every cigarette I smoked. I know so many that switched to vaping and became more hooked. I feel the difference in my breathing, exercise is more enjoyable, my skin is clearer and my teeth are whiter. Every time I interact with a smoker/vaper or walk by one, I feel so proud. I did it.
Way to go,
Yep you’re right it’s all in your mind now. The physical addiction you beat so great job and don’t you dare go back! You made it this far and just think you added back at least 10+ years of your life you could have lost from that addiction. Stay strong !
Congrats brother. I just beat my addiction as well, 3 weeks smoke free(no nicotine replacement therapy either, nothing). I vaped heavily for a year, and actually stopped Vaping and smoked cigarettes for 3 months before I quit.
Imo, Vaping is way more addictive then cigarettes. I tried quitting Vape cold Turkey and couldn’t bro. That’s why I used cigarettes to get off. Vaping in my opinion is worse for the brain, a lot worse than cigarettes. Heavily concentrated doses of nicotine is NOT good for the brain. I remember times after taking fat vapes thinking to myself, this is not good for my brain, I’m either permanently or temporarily damaging my mind.
Luckily my addiction was only for 1 year, so I’m praying I didn’t cause any permanent damage to my brain. I don’t think I did, I’ve been clean for 3 weeks now and I feel back to my old self. Haven’t felt these levels of mental clarity and ambition in awhile and I’m so fckin happy. Vaping especially robbed me of my motivation and ambition, shits terrible.
Again, I’m proud of you for quitting brother! It’s amazing to read others peoples comments who have quit and are experiencing the same benefits as me. Stay up fam
"Every time I interact with a smoker/vaper or walk by one, I feel so proud.", my experience exactly.
@@Stampedby__bonetti Congrats man, keep it up! I’m in a similar situation, over the last year I vaped for 5 months or so, then switched to Zyn for several months, then quit that and ended up back on vapes. Lol nicotine is vicious. I quit vaping a few weeks ago, quit drinking a month ago, have been using a sauna every day for the last few weeks, have been running and lifting too, and I feel better than I have in ages. I can breath easier and my resting heart rate has dropped comfortably into the 40’s. Nicotine is such a waste of money and it really does wear on you
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With cigs I was a pretty light smoker, 3-5 per day. When I switched to vaping, I would draw on it all day long, never going more than 15 minutes or so without a few puffs. When I started going into the bathroom at work several times a day to get a hit, I felt ridiculous and knew it had to stop. Vaping is SO much more addictive because of its accessibility. When I quit I was completely blown away by how calm I felt, unaware of the constant state of anxiety that nicotine kept me in. Like I was back to being myself.
I’ve noticed this with a lot of friends who switched from smoking to vaping.
True. Before quitting vaping I was contemplating just going back to a few cigs a day. Kinda seemed like a healthier alternative to vaping every living hour of the day lol
Very interesting
I'm going through that exact same thing right now. Puffing a vape every 15 mins, go crazy without one. Ducking off to the toilets no matter where I am to get a puff, i's nasty shit
I started having genuine panic attacks. I finally linked it directly to vaping. I've been off them for 20 days today. I haven't had any anxiety or panic attacks since I quit. No more headaches too. Pretty insane I felt the addiction was worth more than how awful it made me feel
Because of this man, 15 of my mates and I literally quit cigarettes and alcohol immediately. Someone protect this man!!!
Thats so badass. Im not being sarcastic. A group of friends coming together and being like "Nah we're done" is badass.
Rad! Isn’t it fun being the sober one at parties?! It’s actually funny (& sad), bittersweet. Keep up the good work 🙌 🙌
Thats amazing.
How u quot cigs? I've tried so many times. It's one thing I just can't quit yet
I replaced the cigarette smoking with another type of high, which in this case was cold/hot plunge. With the extra energy, I picked up running, which gave me another high. From there, I just starting cooking again for myself. It's all about keeping busy helping others the best you can. @@kyle6781
For those struggling with nicotine addiction, I haven't found a better way to kick it than to become obsessed with something that doesn't allow you to smoke. I used to smoke and vape. I got into jumping rope (boxer style) for fitness followed by long-distance running. Now, if I thought about bumming a smoke from a buddy, I know that my running the next morning-something that is normally a pleasurable experience-would be miserable. Sometimes, these things can provide just enough distance between craving and response to give us the space to make better decisions.
I had smoked for about 15 years, and switched to nicotine gum for about 5 years without ever being able to stop. I switched to vaping, and was able to gradually taper myself off of nicotine by mixing the juice myself, and after vaping flavored juice with no nicotine for a month I was able to quit entirely. You will also find that the British Health System relies on vaping to reduce and quit smoking.
I was a smoker for 16 years. Back in my late teens and early twenties. I was in the military. We ran Mondays,Wednesdays and Fridays. Between 2-10 miles depending on who was leading the troop. I was a heavy smoker 1-11/2 packs a day. I also ran with a chew of red man in my cheek. Still alive now 60+. I quit smoking and chewing in 93.
I quit vaping just days after I got back into collecting and selling Pokemon. Without even meaning to! Like you said, I found something else that can be "addictive" but in a beneficial way.
I had a vaping phase. At first, a friend has it so you end up trying it. You think nothing of it, but next thing you know you're buying your own. What makes it so terrible is how easy it is. Eventually, you're fidgeting to take another puff every 10 seconds. I quit because I hated myself for the habit.
Good on you man! It is hard, I've been there
I made the mistake of buying my own and got HOOKED. Nicotine was hard af to kick.
@@MrKfloz Just tell yourself the vape is evil.
I’ve been completely sober 262 days and counting.
Quite honestly one of the best decisions of my entire life.
Having a clear mind; a clear sense of one self there’s nothing like it.
Depending on myself to take care of problems rather than relying on an escape that’ll just create more health problems later on it’s just not worth it.
Well done. 1692 for me. 💪
That's good to hear! Congrats. I'm on day 17th and already loving myself more :) I'm just struggling with productivity... May that have happened to you as well? I hope I keep getting more and more productive each day as I relied on vapes and THC to study and work without feeling it was shit
i quit vaping a few days ago. i used to smoke cigarettes and would never smoke a cigarette indoors but vaping, i would vape all day. i think the accessibility makes it worse than smoking cigarettes in the long run.
That really is the issue. I quit smoking years ago and was nicotine free for a time. But now that you can vape wherever, my body is addicted like it never was with cigarettes.
@@Dapryor Still better than lung darts.
@@thetavibes9021 what are lung darts?
@@alexandern5296 Cigarettes.
good job
When are we gonna talk about how CZcams and podcasts have effected our dopamine levels in the context of addiction. I’ve wasted hours watching podcasts on how to be “healthy” and “optimal”. I feel like it leads you down a toxic path of perfection that is unattainable. It seems like all of us have forgotten how to be present in the moment without optimizing every little thing.
Everything is bad if no moderation.. do your self a favor. Pick one day a week where you don’t use technology. Let your body reset. Go outside in the morning and go outside when the sun is setting. Delete ig, facebook and other nonsense brain rot social media. Use CZcams with watch time warning to know you’re using the too much. I promise you’ll feel much better about your self. Hope this helps. Remember we get one life. Donte use it all on apps designed to steal away your time in life✊️⏳🙌💯
100%
The workd isnt ready for that conversation
The social dilemma on Netflix
Get outside and walk, preferably among nature and you'll feel better.
From someone who smoked for well over 30 years here is my assessment. I was a heavy smoker, 2+ packs a day. I was at the point for probably a decade where my breathing was short, people knew when I was around by my cough and in the mornings i would cough 💩 up sometimes to the point of puking. I transitioned from smoking to vaping, I was a dual smoker/vaper for some time and eventually put the cigs away. For me, I can tell you I feel 100 times better, dont cough, not short of breath and just feel better overall. With that being said I dont know what the long term effects hold for my future. Ive been vaping now for about 3 years.
Surely using all natural tobacco flavouring and glycerol in the vapouriser would have to be vastly different than these synthetic flavourings
@ejefepinnock945 sell a kidney
I'm the same, 30 year smoker 2packs a day vaping helped me kick the habit 10 years ago and I feel 100 times better.
Same here bro. Started smoking at 16 and smoked a pack a day for 10 years.
I think the biggest down side is that I feel more addicted to nicotine now but overall 100% better physically
All the young people I work around vape and I hear them coughing all the day year round. Don’t fool yourselves into believing it is any better for you then smoking
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Does anyone know any good source to get them? I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels, would love to give shrooms a try.
Yes, dr.sporesss
Dr.sporesss is the best, he's been my go to for anything psychedelics.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.sporesss
It’s really about your intention, addiction is an attempt to escape some form of suffering, the best thing you can do is face your issues and suffering
Almost 5 months clean from Cannabis, tobacco, caffeine and alcohol. I’m 25 & started cannabis with tobacco at 16. Quit everything cold turkey cause i had an elevated blood pressure and feel pretty safe to say that I will never go back to that lifestyle!
Thats amazing!
That must’ve been hell giving up all that at once. I had to ween off one by one slowly (besides caffeine I absolutely hate the way caffeine makes me feel)
i think caffeine is the one drug i could never give up, I love my breakfast tea and coffee too much. Fair play though
28, I've been battling nicotine addiction with cigarettes but mostly vaping (juul, disposables) for over 14 years. I've quit for 8 months and then started vaping again for 4 months. I'm recently 90 days nicotine free again. It is such an evil battle that convinces me to indulge for a 4 second minor morning buzz that I chase the rest of the day which never comes due to the frequency in which I vape. What's crazy is that after extended periods of quitting it actually takes 'work' to get back into it because my body has healed so much. This last relapse was over a week of heavy coughing after each hit and not enjoying any part of it, yet I still continued and got addicted again. Thank you for this video
never related to anything more lol. The morning buzz that lasts for 5 seconds followed by puffing on it the rest of the day chasing the same feeling that will never come again until next morning
25, been vaping for almost 6 years now, also happens to me, quit for several months then go back on it. Need my body to heal for real this time.
@@eduardosierraasame here, vaping for about 5 or 6 years on and off, 25 years old. Ive been off for about 2 months now, going to stay off for real this time!
@@vincentpernicano3277nicotine pouches like Velo really helped me quit for good. I used them for 3 months after quitting vaping and now I’m completely nicotine free for the past 6 months. Elite athletes (such as PL footballers) use them regularly and they’ve been used in Nordic countries for many years
@@vincentpernicano3277you can do it!
A Wise Man once said:
"BREATHE AIR!!
YOU DON'T NEED A VAPE!!"
That man was not that wise if he didn't understand how addiction works
That man also on camera smoking a hookah so...
That man is also a human trafficker.
The dude is know for smoking huge cigars full of crud.
@@Zhdhcjenimagine genuinely believing this statement, seethe more
quiting cigarettes was the hardest thing I've ever done....
you must of not done very hard things then
Good on ya
I kicked an opiate addiction but I still can't quit nicotine
I’m trying to quit. It’s not going good- 😢
@@ActiveGamingUKIt is one of the hardest drug to quit.
I started vaping casually like a year and a half ago, hitting coworkers vapes a bit while at work. That morphed into consistently hitting friends' vapes while they were around and that then morphed into me finally buying a disposable vape for the first time about 6 weeks ago or so. As of November 1st however, the sale of flavored vape products has been banned where I live and honestly I'm quite happy about it. I was set to keep on buying those disposables as long as they were available. I never had a history of smoking before I ever touched a vape besides a few cigarettes (and not counting weed).
I remember when they banned methanol cigarettes and honestly I was so annoyed but that turned out to be the best thing they did. I don’t think I could have stopped if they didn’t ban them
So you guys need the government to be your baby sitters?
That's so real. It starts like that
I always contributed smoking and vaping as a way to combat anxiety. You fiddling, the deep breathing thats a side effect of inhaling. Makes people feel good
I was a social smoker for quite a few years and never once felt addicted. I’d only smoke when a drank a few throughout the night. I stopped for years. A few years ago I tried vaping and let me tell you it’s 100 times more addictive. I found myself wanting it ALL the time. Had to work really hard to quit and even now even I drink I want it.
Agreed. Over the years I’ve been a social smoker at times and never thought about going out to buy cigarettes on my own, but with vaping being so much more discreet it’s really easy for it to get its hooks in you. I never wanted to smell like cigarettes so I didn’t buy them, but I started buying vapes and just stepping into a restroom or around a corner to hit them everywhere I went. Once you quit for a while you realize how silly the addiction is, but man it really takes you for a ride
Why can’t you just have it when you drink like you do with cigs
@@BeforeThisNovember for me because vaping doesn’t have all the unappealing factors of smoking actual cigarettes. I find cigarettes gross when I’m sober, they taste and smell bad. Vaping tastes and smells good so I found it much more tempting to vape more often. I’ve since cut it out all together.
@@x3lea866 I completely agree. I quit smoking for around 8 years and started again in lockdown (idiot). Not long after I replaced it with vaping and I’m still tryna quit that.
Quitting cigs is way easier for reasons you said. And vaping you can just sit in your house hitting it none stop ..
@@BeforeThisNovember I had to quit drinking for awhile to quit vaping otherwise I’d cave when I got a little tipsy lol
Another reason podcasts can have the same guests and not lose views is because subject matters are more complex than a few minutes of discussion can cover, that people aren't as dumb as the media would have us believe. People have a genuine curiosty about everything and nuance is not lost on them.
Or maybe there are tens of millions of people who devour this kind of content, and a lot of dumb people. I'm a crossover: I'm dumb _and_ love this content :)
Quit vaping cold turkey a month ago, I feel a literal veil off my eyes has been lifted, everything flows clearer in my mind and my performance in the gym is much increased. My libido as well has had a boost. To be honest, cigarettes felt less harmful… WAKE UP
Saw a middle aged lady that had to talk through a hole in her throat when I was a kid. Was never tempted to smoke much of anything after that.
That has nothing to do with smoking but ok.
That'll do it
IMO vaping is invaluable only if use for quitting smoking … include quitting vaping a the end .
I quite 16 years of smoking thanks to vaping.
And I quite vaping after 2 years.
That was 11 years ago
Before that I had try everything without success.
In the other end I think just replacing smoking by vaping on the Long run is not a good idea.
It has to be a step helping for quitting.
Smoked cigarettes for seven years. Been vaping for about four. The comparisons aren't even close. Cigarettes you could just see and feel how unhealthy they are. It's better not to do it and be dependent on it, sure, but anyone with actual long term experience smoking cigarettes in comparison knows it's not even close.
100% agree. I would only "recommend" vaping to people who just cannot seem to kick the cigs. It's obviously still not healthy, but I feel miles healthier and especially I can breathe better.
while i agree with how cigarettes “feel”, i started rolling my own with loose tobacco and for me, it’s better than both boxed cigs and vaping
smoked a ‘normal’ cig a month after i switched to rolling and it felt like smoking 100% chemicals; vaping makes my mouth feel like it’s laced with metal
self-rolled cigs take 1/3 of the time to smoke, don’t feel as nasty, and the whole process disincentivizes smoking. lmao
so i’d argue that it’s a slightly better bridge between smoking and not smoking compared to vaping, but again that’s just my experience
Yep this is what annoys me. We are watching a legion of people who are NOT involved with this try to take down one of the most successful smoking cessation methods to EVER exist.
A bunch of none smokers rubbing their fu cking nose in it.
I smoked for over 10 years. Ive been on and off vaping for about 5 or 6 years now?
The difference in my health is night and day. I can breathe. My cardios better. My gums arent rapidly receding anymore. I dont feel like shit all the time from THOUSANDS of chemicals from the combustion of carbon floating around my body. My throats not raspy. Im not coughing up tar.
The list goes on.
Its NIGHT AND DAY.
And we are about to lose it to fu cking chinese vapes, propaganda and civilians being fu cking nosey.
This whole thing is a grand display of the utter Lack of cognition happening on a communal scale.
If we lose vaping to this i will spend the rest of my life jaded and cynical towards people. They are more than happy to take away your vices and hobbies while they sit on theirs. Its literally human nature.
And If it does get banned. Guess who wins? Big Tobacco.
Has anyone ever wondered how the importation of MILLIONS of *Illegal* Chinese vapes even makes it into the country in the first place?
Bit weird that border patrol just closes up shop on those days dont you think?
Nah no one thinks. Just braindead lobby against vaping because thats what the hivemind is doing atm.
Nothing beats addicts justifying the type of poison they can't quit. At least some of you admit they're idiots for starting to smoke. I have people around me who smoke their all lives and I despise it. Arguably the most common annoying disgusting thing in my life. And entirely come from other people and not myself.
You must not have any vices, that is impressive. Wow.@@laius6047
I quit drinking completely after listening to his podcast on alcohol and health.
that episode is extremely eye-opening, and I've seen tons of people cite it as the final nail in the coffin of their alcohol addiction. I haven't quit entirely, but I went from drinking more than a 6 pack every single day for many years, to having a beer or two with lunch 2 or 3 times a week, and that episode is what made me really reflect on what I was doing to myself and finally make some changes.
I hope it was too late.
@@konkeydonged slow and incremental progress is far better than quitting instantly, atleast in terms of the chance of getting addicted again + the withdrawals
I started...I wanna do the science myself.
@@Godisreal. You're gonna fail.
something to consider: I vaped way more nicotine than I smoked. The detriment nicotine withdrawal had on my sleep - particularly with regards to sleep fragmentation or disruptions - was something I only realized when I switched to patches and kept them on at night. My sleep improved so much and was worse when I vaped vs smoking cigs. This week I went from a 7mg patch to 1mg a day of silver malboros. Definitely less healthy, but these companies don't make patches smaller and most are not cuttable (it's almost like they want you to stay addicted).
Now that u mention it I hadn’t noticed i sleep completely thru the night now… before I quit I’d wake up and roll over to hit the vape like every hour
Exactly! If you want an accurate depiction of what nicotine addiction free sleep will be like, talk to your doc about getting patches, your insurance should cover it, I paid 0 for mine. Just try it once, you will be shocked and it was just heuristically create motivation to quit.@@jimirsayssponsor5844
I vape and I sleep like a baby
@@FIshfood500same.. I don’t vape those salt nic gas station vapes, but I have a vape mod and vape 3mg nic juice, and my lungs, my sleep, everything feels fine 🤷🏻♂️
Shoenice can drink 5 handles and live.@@FIshfood500
I'm honestly interested in seeing the citations for a number of his statements. I know a lot of the negative Health reports regarding vaping had to do with black market made THC vape cartridges w Vit E acetate. Quite a few people including myself use high quality ingredient and regulated nicotine juice. In general it sounds like he's referring to the worst of the worst and combining them all under one umbrella. I'm sure it's not great for health and if it's very minimal like the European Union study said then I'm fine with it for now
Whatever justifies it for you. Just don’t cry when you come down with a disease from it.
@RoRo-gn9pv harsh dude. I like seeing citations and learning. That's literally what my statement was about above. I've actually been tracking the studies that come out. And again, I don't claim that it improves health and in line with all the solid research I've seen so far especially if you rule out the vitamin E acetate the risks look to be very minimal, if thats the case Ill keep using. Especially if you're a person that uses quality and regulated juice.
ye but he was talking about chemicals crossing the blood brain barrier. This THC and Vit E thing is assosiacted with these things in your lung, and even if it does more damage, this should be the first thing mentioned imo, but he didnt. Still, leaving out Sucralose, Acetoin and colorant is already a great reduction in risk, so Im also curious what he was refering to exactly. And if you only vape the base+nicotin it should be basically harmless.
@@TheUnrider gave me the ick when he talked about "this and that crosses blood-brain barrier, introduces so many toxins into your body, etc. etc.". How about naming specifically what you are talking about? There's so many variables in vaping, that it's already hard enough to do studies (like 15W mouth-to-lung vs. 200W direct-to-lung as an example). Sounds more like fear-mongering to me instead of the usual factual research he's citing.
The only people who defend these smoking vaping habits and "I want specifics" are addicts. Whatever you want to tell yourself about "it's not that bad" it's your addiction speaking. At least most people know that it's really bad and just admit the can't quit because they're completely addicted and don't care about negatives. But then there's you bunch that just "give me details why it bad, or it means its totally justified cus I'm so smart because there's no proper studies YET".cigaretes were recommended by doctors even to children. So don't pretend to be some genius that you vape ATM
The only benefit I can see from my past nicotine addiction (cigarettes then vaping) is that I can now better detect when I'm becoming addicted to something. My phone, a certain behavior, the ability to get drawn into something with a net negative-these all feel like when I craved a cig or a rip on a vape pen. That doesn't mean I don't regret those years of addiction, but it is an interesting silver lining to years of bodily damage.
I started smoking when I was 13 and started vaping a year ago at 44. I feel so much better vaping and I can actually take deep breaths now. People may say vaping is bad but as someone who smoked for most of their life and then vaping, vaping is such a better option health wise for Me.
I had a 4 year kratom habit, daily. It stopped me stealing my stepdads meds, stopped me taking close to dangerous amounts of cocodamol. 4 years and when I quit I had little to no withdrawals. I quit once but read people's stories about quitting and withdrawals and experienced withdrawals from it that time but when I decided to quit and not put the possibility of placebo withdrawals it wasn't a problem at all. It should be legal globally.
I am in the process of quit vaping is so hard I had 1 day and a half and I came back for one day and now I am on track again, is so hard is because of my believes about smoking I have to brake my believes that this is cool because it is not at all !! Thanks for this podcasts !
This is not a very informative discussion. Some people vape cannabis and some people vape nicotine. And there are countless different vape strengths and flavours available, which all contain different blends of ingredients and chemicals and different amounts of nicotine and cannabis.. You can also vape flavourless juice containing only glycerine and nicotine, which I do.
Yeah, I'm glad I realized how detrimental it was to my body. Vaped for 5 years and quit both vaping and alcohol when I was 23; I'm 27 now and trying to reverse all the senseless things I've done to my body with a horrible diet growing up, then vaping and drinking through college.
Vaping and drinking for a couple years no way did that much damage
@@yegheieu I vaped for 5 years; had back to back bronchitis lasting roughly 6 months each, at one point I was coughing up a cup of green mucus from my lungs a day, if not more. I for sure have some lung scarring from vaping and the associated lung infections. And on top of that, my drinking habits were quite bad, I blacked out almost every time I drank.
@@alexduero9444good for you. It's not easy and you caught it at a time where you are resilient. Many don't and suffer a lifetime.
@@yegheieuNot very surprised, it’s terrible for your lungs, heart and liver. Can cause diabetes, gut issues, etc.
Good job starting in your mid 20s. Most wait till their 30s and that's after everything really starts catching up with them and it's that much harder to reverse.
I've been vaping for maybe 15 years. I used to smoke 20 Lambert and Butlers a day and always had colds, coughs etc. I smoke the Vape 88 liquids and they seem fine to me honestly. When I switched from smoking to vaping my lungs cleared themselves out and I very rarely get ill now. Maybe once every 3 years or so. I can go months without exercise and get on a treadmill / out on the road and can run 5k without too much bother honestly.
The fact is, like he said, we just don't know. No risk, no story I guess.
they blubbering all kinds of crazy stuff for 11mins. everything for a buck
They demonise nicotine ...but probably cant function if they dont start their day with a cup of coffee...
what has struck me most is the amount of vaping people now do. They smoked far less cigarettes in comparison to how much people vape. I would be interested to see the data in several years down the line.
I quit vaping one year agooo 🎉 because a loved ond convinced me to try. Ever since my health has been so good and tbh I don’t miss it. With every day that passes I just see more things that prove that vaping is very dangerous and bad for my health. You can do it!!! ☺️
Do you ever get cravings or miss it? If not, how long would you say it took for them to go away? I’m on day nine and the cravings the last two days have been worse than when I just started. Hope it’s not like this my whole life lol
@@beccamartin6270 heyyy! Not anymore. But at the beginning i had to get distance from my friends who kept vaping cause they weren't helping me. I craved it a lot for at least 1 month and from then I occasionally craved it but not as much. When you reach the 3M mark you won't miss it. You can do it!!
What about the local vape juice’s with only propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, and food grade flavoring? It sounds like you guys are talking about the gas station stuff that doesn’t even list the ingredients.
Working in the healthcare field, I still see a lot of ill effects of cigarettes but haven't seen anything from vaping yet.
So do I. Keep in mind it takes about 20 years on average for the first signs of damage to become obvious. I didn't say it takes 20 years of nicotine use to damage you, only to do enough damage to start being visible. Vapes have been around for decades but got the first patent in 2003 and only started being generally used a few years after that so we're on the cusp of those key 2 decades. And realistically even 20 years is still the beginning, you start seeing the damage exponentially with time with way more at 30 and 40 years. This sounds like a long time but if you start vaping in your teens its just enough to cut your life short. Remember tobacco users lose about 10-25 years of life expectancy with their decade or so often marked by illnesses caused by their vice. Realize that studies have already shown emphysematous changes to the lifetime vapers' only lungs even if they never smoked.
Obviously nicotine toasts your circulation with the primary cause of death and disease in this drug's users not being cancer, but cardiovascular and it isn't the tars either because pipe, cigar and oral/smokeless tobacco users (which receive greater dosages of this pesticide) having a greater degree of circulatory death and disease. They lie and say "NICOTINE HAS NEVER BEEN SHOWN TO CAUSE CANCER" but the most potent carcinogens in tobacco (or any nicotine product for that matter) are tobacco specific nitrosamines which come about as a byproduct of nicotine degradation just sitting there. So any form of nicotine is loaded with this deadly poison as well including the patches and gum. Therefore your anecdotal feeling is just because we're not yet noticing and tying 2 and 2 together but based on what we already know about nicotine itself and the dynamics of introducing this poison in your body it is extremely likely in the coming 3-5 years there will be some big studies coming out about the harms of vaping as well..
Key word here is YET 4:36
@@Pablophd1965 if we are expecting to see the same or similar effects as tobacco, i do not think we will see much. I want to know which chemical in vape liquid is the culprit and some further details.
@@Pablophd1965oh you're such a smart fu*king parrot!
If they had instruments back then to check they wouldn't have to wait for the "yet" with cigarettes. Also the humanity wasn't as weak as today's so negatives were slower or none.
Right now you can check how vaping is affecting you and you can feel it. No need for 2030s scientists to tell you.
23 years old. Prob started around 17/18. Slowly quitting. Went cold turkey the first two days and used pouches (2 a day actually pretty helpful) now 10 hits a day for a week. Then -5 next week. Then cut to zero by the end of the month. I do like nicotine so I’ll end up using gum when I want it. Quitting is honestly not as bad as I thought. I think in the past I’ve failed cuz deep down I didn’t actually care to quit. But now i feel way more in control. So far so good on the journey. I wasn’t planning on doing it forever so it’s time. We got this 🤝
Sticking to zyns myself
I have fainted multiple times since I started vaping and I am constantly nauseous, tired, anxious and depressed. Despite all of this, quitting was not an option for me. It is my crutch and my vice. I wasn’t ready to quit, however I have finally arrived at a place where I am committed to quitting. Currently going through withdrawals and wanting to vape is consuming my mind. Hoping it subsides soon. Pray for me lol
your probaly smoking a shit ton of nicrotine then, im vaping 0 nicotine and im never addicted to it, ive even went entire 2 years without vaping on nicotine
That's what I find strange. Even cigarettes don't make me tired but vaping for a few days like I tried a couple of times makes me slow, tired, sleepy, low bp...
Zero distinction between freebase and salt nicotine. Gigantic difference in ingredients, temperature and nicotine dosage.
Zero distinction between Chinese vapes and real vapes.
I expect so much more from Huberman. Just lost all credibility in my eyes.
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother Perhaps on this one singular issue, yes. I think I can forgive him for not being on the cutting edge of vape science. There's really not a ton of studies to go on especially not in North America. The Royal College of Physicians conducted a 10 year double blind study claiming freebase vaping was 99.5% safer than cigarettes, but it really doesn't matter much. Most ways to access freebase nicotine vaping (making juice to order on location, building coils by hand with materials known to be safe and not covered in chemicals) were made explicitly illegal because of the teen vaping scare. Juul really did ruin it for everyone.
The way I've seen people vape, I have thought about suggesting a "vapilator" so they can keep vaping continuously and keep their hands free.
Oh no bro they're totally in control. They have this addiction by the balls. They're such strong and brave people for choosing vape over cigaretes. Modern day knights.
I quit vaping and am now on a lower mg nicotine gum. The amount of nicotine you intake with a vape is much more than most realize as people puff on it all day long. I know I would when I vaped. Since quitting, my anxiety has also improved
i vape 0 nicotine and im fine, i cant stop vaping and forget about it. only 2 ingreidents in vaping pg and vg both found in foods
@@nightcoreamv6462 the vaping device itself can be harmful to your lungs by exposing them to metal, since nearly all vaporizers for nicotine contain conductive heating. So it isn't just the juice to worry about. BTW, I'm not condemning anything, just trying to provide helpful info
same for me, I've been vaping for 5 years after 7 years of cigarrettes and now I use 2mg nicotine gum. The irony of using one nicotine substitute against another
@redweyes1733 ikr lmao, but hey at least the gum doesn't affect our precious lungs!
I quit vaping because of Doc Hubermans nicotine episode. Thanks Doc, totally worth the three weeks of crawling out of my own skin to be free of that garbage.
3 weeks all it took for you? You ever get cravings anymore?
@@tylerdrymanit took myself 2 weeks, a little less than 2 actually. Im guessing Carolyn probably wasn’t smoking that long and that’s why it only took her 3 weeks. Like myself, I smoked for 1 year only. So I think that’s why my withdrawal was so short which I’m happy about tbh.
It’s great being smoke free, now feeling normal again I realize how much of my mind smoking was occupying. I can use all my attention and mind on things that actually matter in my life, goals and such. Smoking greatly hindered that so much, basically made me a zombie shit sucked.
@@Stampedby__bonettithanks for sharing. Ive been vaping for about 5 years unfortunately, got caught up in it early in high school. I think im going to make a run trying to stop but im worried about me getting right back into it, even if i was able to quit for a few weeks
Oh I should mention what I did when I quit to help me stay with it.
That is I constantly was looking at the timeline each week of how your health improves over a few days or weeks or months after smoking.
I mean I literally looked at it all the time.
I ended up having to stay really busy. Shoveling snow for hours.
Sleeping more.
But I did whatever I could to stop smoking.
I also thought if my sister who was more addicted then me could quit I could too.
And it is really truly worth it!!!
I smoked for 16 years before quitting.
I went 11 months and never felt better, however alcohol can be a slippery slope, especially if your surrounded by smokers/vapers. I relapse after my first drinking session, there’s something about vaping while drinking that makes me feel on top of the world. Of course that never ends well. Work stress caused me to relapse a second time, I need to find other ways to cope with stress
I smoked for 43 years. I quit almost 5 years ago using vaping for maybe 6 months. Started forgetting it at home. Figured it was time to say no. Replacing nicotine never helped me quit. When I feel I must try one again, I do. I take one draw and think to myself yuck! How did I ever smoke this. I honestly don’t think nicotine is what I was ever addicted to. I grab a vape as well only when I’m under major stress. Then I put it down and no withdrawal ever.
It’s the ritual for me too. I have to see the smoke or the vape cloud to get any satisfaction from it.
I quit vaping today. I think it messes up your lungs lowers blood oxygenation and makes the heart work harder. I'm worried about it
Vaping is a great tool for quitting cigarettes that should then be withdrawn through gum/pouches then nothing. I completed this process myself and have been nicotine-free for 6 months. What’s poor is to see people who never smoked a cigarette starting vaping largely due to targeted marketing.
You can transition to no nicotine vape juice too. I use unflavored with very low nicotine. I was vaping no nicotine for two years but when I traveled out of state I couldn’t get it without nicotine. (That was in 2011 so options were limited back then).
I didn't get anything from this. There were no specifics regarding what exactly in vaping would cause any harm. Also, it sounds like Huberman assumed vaping meant vaping marijuana. I'm usually a fan of him, but he was all over the place with this one.
It's because there are no studies to confirm it. Andrew is emotionally driven on this question.
I quit zyn 2 years ago, my blood pressure went down, my sleep is better and i don’t have that anxious feeling. I dont miss it at all
quitting cigarettes was the hardest thing I've ever done but i would not of been able to do it without vaping and now this year am vape free also there is an good reason to use these
I have a good female friend. She has been trying for 4 years to have kids. Recently she went through a series of doctors and it turns out she can not have kids anymore. Her eggs and hormones went poof a couple of years ago at around the age of 32. Smoking was probably a major factor. She is completely devastated and depressed because of it. I always told her that her smoking is stupid. Sadly, I was right. Learn from her mistake.
It seems Andrew has a personal grudge with vaping and seems to be more based on his emotions, than science. He keeps saying it is so bad, but never really gets to why. The lung damage it caused in US teens were due to illicit vapes with vitamin E. The only shown carcinogen in vaping is formaldehyde but it comes in quantities of 1/100 of that of smoking and only if your vape is burning at a too high temperature. For reference, here is an article from Uk Cancer Research, essentially concluding that it is not cancerous. Other studies I've seen put its health impact at around 5% of that of smoking. Personally, my suspicion is that he has children in the "vaping age" and would rather be safe than sorry.
Its 100% agenda he even admits "he thinks vapors are disgusting"
Like shit the writing is on the wall.
I like how Andrew talks about the negatives to vaping scientifically rather than these "Quit vaping" commercials that don't even explain why they just try to make trendy videos with younger people telling you to stop. Thank you Andrew for the knowledge and Chris for hosting a great podcast.
Wasn’t there a research that supports vaping is 95% less dangerous then cigarettes. I don’t know how you view injecting nicotine as being more healthy than vaping.
Nicotine as a substance has never been specifically bad (or good). It has its own advantageous and deleterious effects depending on why you use it. The main difference between smoking and vaping as nicotine delivery systems is you are simply swapping one cluster of toxic chemicals and additives for another, less understood and potentially just as (if not more) harmful cocktail of chemicals. Injecting pure nicotine could be reasoned to be better by someone in need of their fix. Vaping is far more addictive than smoking for me, not just for ease of use, but you get massive concentrations of nicotine instantly. Regardless, nicotine or any sort of self-"medication" belies a deeper indication of poor health, whether it be physical, mental, or spiritual.
No there weren't. That's just marketing. They say it's better because it's not smoking, but it basically is smoking anyway.
Burning anything is gonna produce shitloads of nasty chemicals. Injecting pure nicotine would get you nicotine without coating your lungs with freaky synthetic oil smoke. Nicotine itself isn't so dangerous compared to all the other chemicals that most people take in by smoking or vaping
Injection bypasses any lung damage but vaping being 95% safer than smoking definitely should have been explored
King’s college said this, yes. But we still don’t know long-term implications. No matter what, neither is good. Avoid if possible, or make it seldom.
@@M3spooni the dude promotes ketamine.
What toxins are Dr Huberman referring to? I vape with ONLY PG & VG without flavors or additives. The flavors and additives are the REAL PROBLEMS.
You’re mistaken. Propylene glycol is practically anti-freeze. You can eat it in small amounts because it passes through. But that doesn’t mean your lung tissue has the ability to clear those substances.
The hygroscopicity of them concern me as I've had what feels like dry lung a few times
@@kitkakittehso is salt. Borax is outlawed as being toxic but it's LD50 is double that of salt. PG is pretty low toxicity
@@danielmclaughlin2145cope 😂
Vaping helped me kick a 20 year smoking habit. My sense of smell came back and was able to swim the length of an Olympic sized pool underwater on one breath again. I find vaping to be a much better alternative to smoking.
The amount of Vape shops opened up all over the place is unreal.
I totally agree, it’s made many towns and cities unappealing in my opinion…
@@melissah3069Funny how a vape shop can be more unappealing than a liquor store
This is one area in which I am surprised in Huberman. It is inarguable that vaping is much preferable to smoking and the best way to quit cigarettes.
Wrong. The best way to quit cigarettes is to read a book by Allen Carr called “Easyway to Quit Smoking”.
It’s $15 which is cheaper than vaping, and there is no willpower involved.
@@zenlandziplineyoure fried
@@PBNIP I AM fried. I’m also a non-smoker now because I read the book.
I read his quit drinking alcohol book 10 years ago and haven’t had a drink since.
Do you have a better way to quit stupid addictions?
@@zenlandziplinedoesn’t work for everyone though. I don’t think there is a one size fits all unfortunately.
@@coopj250 correct, but the book costs like $12. The price of 2 packs of cigarettes. If it doesn’t work, you’re out $12. If it does work, you saved $12 in 1 or 2 days just by not having to buy cigarettes.
Other methods are a lot more expensive, and none have a better success rate.
If your car engine was making a noise, wouldn’t you take a chance on a $5 bottle of oil additive before taking it to a mechanic and replacing the engine?
I would really love for content creators around these topics to make a unbiased talk about the effects of, for example vaping, but also give an explanation about how our body handles these substances, and how it rebounds post usage.
So much of the content is "this is bad because I say so and I have this degree/phd/title so you should believe me"
Im not saying Andrew Huberman isn't far more qualified than myself to make judgements on topics such as nicotine vaping, but all I heard here was "we are inhaling these chemicals into our lungs" yet everyone whos been taught anything about cigarette smoking is is the timeline of how our bodies repair after quitting. Our bodies have the ability to repair themselves, but that point is often over looked.
Taking one hit isn't doing permanent, irreversible damage. Smoking weed isn't doing that either. Abusing any substance, or abusing anything (video games) is inherently bad, but simply saying "this is bad" and not properly educating people on why its bad and where the effects are felt the most, and how to go about managing them or using in moderation is simply unproductive.
Totally agree......trying to "educate" or "motivate" people courtesy of one's academic authority (or hubris) is tantamount to how religious priests and clerics behave. I.E "You should refrain from this thing because somebody smarter and more powerful than you (god, Jesus, Allah etc) .....doesn't LIKE this habit and considers it a sin...." These kind of invocations mean JACK to sooo many people because they remove authority, ownership and responsibility from the individual and instead try to employ a kind of "second hand" sense of obligation which not only doesn't work....it (quite rightly) makes many people rebel against this kind of "motivational" model.....because deep down, they KNOW it's just one big croc of sh*t.....even if the advice being given is wise and sound. People MUST be treated as having personal ownership before you try to motivate them, and if you try to "cheat code" that.....well.....good luck reaching your target audience!!
Well said! No one is going to be convinced to give up all their vices for the sake of health, because there is so much anecdotal evidence of people using certain substances, and living healthy lives (on the more mild side of substances) and even people who abuse harder substances, get clean, and live healthy lives.
Keep the "this is what this substance does to your body" but follow up with "this is how our body fights its and how it can be managed/balanced/reversed." @@donnietobasco9791
I’m not trying to say vaping is safe but I have done fairly heavily for years and get up at 4am 5 times a week and run 3 miles with no real issues so far.
Almost a year nicotine free. Anyone who is looking to quit or has quit stick with it! It’s only tough in the beginning
I have been smoking and vaping heavily ever since I was 14. I'm 25 now and I am quitting today. Will check back in with my progress.
Good luck dude
I have enjoyed nicotine for the last 2 years but watching this vid and hearing 'blood brain barrier' 3 weeks ago drew an absolute line in the sand for me. I was not a heavy user but was an every day user. I dealt with mood issues and headaches for the first 2 days after quitting but then was golden. I use sunflower seeds to fulfill the oral fixation. Also, cut back on tequila shots from 10-15 per week (2-3 days) to a max of 5 in a week (1 day). Feeling great!
Im a vaper and have been for a long time there are many different reasons why but not only do I like doing it but I like collecting vaping gear. I'm glad I switched but I also know that not doing anything is by far better for you. But here I am .
It's rediculous that somehow vaping has become more stigmatized than all out smoking which is much much worse
It’s not ridiculous. Both are terrible. Get over it.
@@RolandKoller90Citation needed.
Except one is objectively more healthy for you by an order of magnitudes.
Chinese disposable vapes are RUINING the publics perception and RUINING vaping for people who actually need it. @@RolandKoller90
I hate both. Don't do either. What pisses me off is people pretend theyre smarter and beating their addictionby vaping lol.
@@laius6047 Oh no, people are picking a healthier option while still getting the benefits of their drug of choice. Call the fucking inquisition!
Just quit too days ago it's been so hard but this video gave me a renewed vigor to keep going!!
The argument that vape is wrong, accompanied by saying there is not enough research on it, is weird
Every time I see professionals having this discussion they don't mention one huge element that differs between vaping and smoking that I have observed with my friends (ages ranging 18-36), and that is the frequency of use. With vaping, due to the lack of stinky smoke, people will be ripping constantly throughout the day. I had one girl tell me about an ex boyfriend who would reach for his vape in the middle of the night and hit it with his eyes still closed. If you compare this with the natural barriers that come with smoking (the need to go outside if you don't want your house to smell terrible, the need to out on shoes/clothes to go outside, etc.) then you find that there are a lot of casual smokers that might only be smoking a few cigarettes a week, usually at night on the weekend when they're out with people. I have been surprised by how many people who smoke are not chain smokers like I was led to belief growing up, and that there is a huge range in people who partake in cigarette smoking, whereas everyone I know who buys vapes will be vaping very frequently throughout the day.
I don't think it is accurate to refer to it as "smoking vs vaping" because they always talk about smokers as people smoking a pack a day, which I think is something more common in older generations. Living in LA I've observed groups of actors, dancers, models in their mid to late thirties, and they don't vape, they will smoke like 3-4 cigarettes a day max on days that they spend hanging out by the pool with their friends. That's just their vibe.
I hope that these older researchers spend more time understanding how these drugs are being used in different populations instead of only studying what it does to the body.
Anybody else get insanely vivid dreams on patches? Cus I did and at times I would still use them literally just for the adventure of the dreams
That's an awesome concept you've stumbled upon
I am convinced vaping effects female sexual health. As someone who quit smoking cigs and switched to vaping, I saw a tremendous change in my hormones. I was no longer interested in sex, I felt very depressed, anxious and overall mentally unwell. I have now quit vaping all together (not going back!) and find myself feeling more in tune with with body on a variety of levels. Needless to say, vaping is dangerous. There are not enough studies put out there for people, mostly young adults, to know what they are actually doing to their bodies and it's terrifying. If you are a woman who is vaping, may this resonate with you. Some of your ailments might dwindle once you stop injesting unknown chemicals mixed with highly addictive nicotine.
My uncle was a heavy smoker (2 packs a day). Life had been very hard towards him, being deeply in love his kids mom. After being seperated, she took all what he owned and he still supplied her. For years, he used to live a very lonely life and my dad supported him with money, his children only visiting him when they needed money, and he didnt have enough to feed himself but still gave them all what he had on him.
Once his brother went to visit him, knocking on the door, left without answer, he panicked.
After they opened the door, they found peacifully dead as little child on the couch, beside him his cigarette cup.
I did not have a relation to him, but he broke my heart and i had an unconditional love to him. I cried for days.
Me he rest in peace.
There is only one way to quit smoking and that is with Allen Carr's Easyway to stop smoking.
I was a heavy smoker for 32 years. I quit a few times, once for almost 5 years, and was miserable, I just never got over the “urge”. In 2009 I googled electric cigarettes and surprisingly, there was such a thing so I ordered one. I’ve been vaping now for 14 years and it has drastically improved my life compared to smoking. Almost immediately I could go up and down the stairs, and play basketball and ride a bike without being out of breath. I get unflavored with a low nicotine content. The nicotine “hit” is nice but for me it’s always been more about the ritual of holding it and puffing the “smoke”. I wish I’d never smoked but I did and at my age I’m going to continue vaping.
Well then
almost two years without vaping. took an incredible amount of tries but just never stopped trying. never go back
I absolutely love the honesty of this guy
I did kratom for over a year and half and man was it gnarly getting off of it, I couldn’t sleep for 3 days, constantly uncomfortable. Don’t get started on kratom it will mess you up if you take it long term.
Considering most non salt nic vape juice is composed of 3 ingredients vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, and nicotine I have to call bullshit on these findings.
Agreed 100%
Have fun finding out in 20 years 😭 I wouldn’t trust what those labels say especially if it’s a Beijing AC UNIT. If it’s only 3 ingredients where does the flavor come from, even more chemicals then 3 i can guarantee that for sure. Please sit down with your nonsensical comment and read research and not just watch CZcams videos😅
Dr. Andrew Huberman should share his thoughts on Anabolic Steroid use in America which is unhealthy, toxic & dangerous.
"It's expensive" Yeah, £1/week. That's the thing. It's cheap AF if you have a refillable device and buy juice in bulk. You can also get unflavoured e-liquid. Just pure medical grade glycerine used in inhalers and nicotine. Not defending vaping. It's still bad for you. But we need to get our facts straight here.
I enjoy cigars in moderation. On occasion I'll chew on nicotine gum .
I have bad adhd and it helps me tremendously.
I wont touch vapes or cigs .
I wish Chris had called out Huberman on citing studies on vaping being linked to cancer that have all since been RETRACTED. Time and time again research shows vaping to be far less of a risk than smoking and the Royal College of Physicians periodically revisits their assertion that vaping is "at least 95% safer than smoking" and comes back with a similar conclusion.
I'm also really tired of Huberman being touted as this figure of infinite wisdom. He's obviously a brilliant man in his field but the fact that he doubles down on his bias instead of acknowledging errors shows he's just like any other flawed researcher or the COVID zealots that doubled down instead of backing off.
100%! As much as I like Andrew, on the vaping question he seems to be driven by emotions rather than science and comes across as just another hysterical soccer mom.
And he cites "chemicals" that vaping creates when unlike cigarettes, proper vape liquid contains three ingredients, nicotine, propylene glycol (in asthma puffers) and vegetable glycerine.
You must vape
He literally says "i think vapors are disgusting"
Its 100% emotionally driven and its scary that so many can't see it. @@TheNalimo
@@robbiemedica2652what do you mean when you said "pg(in asthma puffers)"
Just curious because I am asthmatic vaper
Andrew Huberman - expert of everything.
Specifics about vaping dry THC bud would be interesting to know, compared to oils and oils with additives for flavour etc.
He'd be hard pressed to disagree that it's the probably the healthiest way of consuming it besides edibles.
Bro it’s 10x fucking worse for you
@@Mvrrayishhave a hard time believing using a vaporizer for dry herb is worse for you lmfao. It ant. I did it for years and had the best stamina ever.
I smoked a pack and a half a day for 20 years tried quitting for 15 years of that. Switched to vaping and within a year I weaned down to zero nicotine then dropped it altogether. Vaping is a wonderful tool for quitting nicotine, any other use is ridiculous.
How can you just talk about " vaping" vaping what? there are so many formulations . The most basic being prop. glycol, glycerine and nicotine.
It's akin to saying eating is bad for you.
Because they work for the sigeret companies!
Former kratom addict...kratom, like any other drug should not be illegal. I cannot use any drug including kratom successfully for some reason that I don't understand, and it destroys my life. Kratom can, and should be used successfully by people who need/want it.
Never touched opiates but I am heavily dependent on Kratom. It’s my own fault and I knew the risks, I did it anyway. I can’t sleep without it, I need it every 8 hours and the withdrawls while not as horrific as heroin are definitely really unpleasant. I’ll be quitting at the end of the year not because I want to but because I have no choice. That said it’s such a great time, I feel really fantastic on it even at the same dose I’ve been taking for over 3 years now.
I smoked cigarettes for 12 years , vaped for 2 years after the cigarettes. In those 2 years of vape, my lungs have never been so bad. I run way less then when I smoked cigarettes and honestly feel way worse then cigarettes. I used to be able to run 2 miles straight when smoked 12 years of cigarettes. Now I’m barely at 1 mile after I switch to a vape.
Im really happy i was able to quit smoking right before vaping became common place ('09). I may not have been able to stop if i transitioned to vaping.
I’m 7 days clean of vaping. Never smoked before. Picked it up 2 years ago when I was 32. Can’t believe how addicted I am/was. The physical comedown has gone but the mental side effects will be here for a long time
I would like Andrew to list all of those toxins from vaping. I ask because vape juice has 4 ingredients: VG, PG, nicotine and flavors.
These toxins must be in the flavoring agents and they vary from flavor to flavor. Therefore, there could be a way of reducing harm by looking at those.
I think they are talking about disposables. Not from proper vapes or the actual ones that are 95% safer than smoking. Not the chinese disposable crap.
You're right, but there are also small quantities of heavy metals when the product is heated in the cotton of the resistor.
It would be helpful to see the actual research and evidence for Huberman's drastic characterization of vaping. Given the amount of resources dedicated to the anti-smoking campaigns, you'd think there would be plenty of evidence available.
I actually love those Zyn (nicotine) pouches.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they caused periodontitis or something similar
@@cameronline3780 agreed. Have to watch it.
Same
@@cameronline3780Why?
Are those the ones u put under ur lips?
I went from smoking cigarettes to vaping, which I did constantly. I noticed a massive brain fog and my joints hurt which was brand new . One day I decided to toss my vape in a trash can on a walk. Took up chewing lots of gum it’s been about a year and a half now
Vaping seems even more ridiculous here in new Zealand given since I could remember as a child our country has pushed so hard to disincentivise smoking, by similar to the UK banning it in so many public spaces, and taxing the crap out of it making it so expensive. But here's a cheaper tastier alternative that's even more attractive to the youth 🤦😂 absolute lunacy.
How about we try harder to get rid of meth in our country by releasing a cheaper version that tastes like strawberry cheesecake? 😂
I quite smoking by going to vaping then quitting that. Vaping did not really do it for me. To much hassle with oil, electricity, break downs and it just never really satisfied me. But it did remove the edge from quitting smoking. I feel that you are doing more harm then good with this video
One study that almost never gets talked about is the HEAT from vaping has the similar damage as smoking. You are putting hot air into your lungs which are pillow soft tissue. This in long due time has negative effects, Any one thats been to a Suana has felt this pain of breathing in hot air for to long, thus why we don't stay in one for an hour, well one of many reasons
But ether way vaping could just be flavored water as many here use, still has negative effects and honestly looks stupid..
"OOHHH wait for me guys i gotta charge my Vape...."
Dork