Rating England’s performance vs Wales 🔢 | The Heated Debate

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    Kyle Walker is joined by Zac Djellab and James Allcott to reflect on England's 3-0 win over Wales at the World Cup. Which players will get the highest rating?
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  • @jhaych
    @jhaych Před rokem +99

    I'm totally convinced by Shaw, it's mount I'm not convinced by

    • @joeynyesss1286
      @joeynyesss1286 Před rokem +7

      Foden over mount

    • @AB-oc7wj
      @AB-oc7wj Před rokem +5

      Should start hendo over mount, more balanced abs gives Jude freedom

    • @eddlovesskiing
      @eddlovesskiing Před rokem +1

      @@AB-oc7wj hendo and mount play 2 completely different roles

    • @AB-oc7wj
      @AB-oc7wj Před rokem +1

      @@eddlovesskiing Obviously, I don’t get your point.

    • @eddlovesskiing
      @eddlovesskiing Před rokem

      @@AB-oc7wj you said start hendo over mount? They’re not in competing positions so doesn’t make much sense, if you said start foden over mount then yeah would make sense

  • @jimmyrace1258
    @jimmyrace1258 Před rokem +61

    Shaw was one of 2 good players vs the US. He has to play

  • @SonnyMonaghan
    @SonnyMonaghan Před rokem +24

    Jim sneaking a 'we can only move forwards' at 22:14 is JAFFN heritage

    • @safebans1369
      @safebans1369 Před rokem +6

      The little cheeky grin that spreads across his chops as he says it

  • @JamesLawrenceAllcott
    @JamesLawrenceAllcott Před rokem +14

    We can only move forwards 👊🏼

  • @garysmith1206
    @garysmith1206 Před rokem +57

    Kane has most assists at the world cup.

    • @ffbear8078
      @ffbear8078 Před rokem +17

      Exactly, I dont care that he hasn't scored cause he's contributing to them well. He's dragging defenders away from our other threats and still managing to get into positions where he can get assists

    • @keepfighting4791
      @keepfighting4791 Před rokem +3

      Because he’s being exposed as a penalty merchant. He becomes a 🦸‍♂️when someone dives for a pen.

    • @mcnetchaiev
      @mcnetchaiev Před rokem +3

      @@keepfighting4791 total bs

    • @bagpussmacfarlan9008
      @bagpussmacfarlan9008 Před rokem +1

      @@keepfighting4791 Yawn

    • @xXSuperman117
      @xXSuperman117 Před rokem

      also could've had more if they could finish

  • @simonislam9527
    @simonislam9527 Před rokem +31

    Lol every time they nitpick they are gonna pick Luke Shaw! He was absolutely fine! And picking on Rashford coz he didn’t score a hat trick! The agenda here my god…

    • @richardgardner7457
      @richardgardner7457 Před rokem +4

      Don’t think there’s an agenda here champ

    • @Vilutusk
      @Vilutusk Před rokem +1

      These guys are just fans dude. They’re not actual pundits and are entitled to their opinions

  • @robbielunn2105
    @robbielunn2105 Před rokem +13

    Still very confused about the Shaw concern, as a United fan I know he can be inconsistent when he's in bad from but right now I have no concerns nor have I ever when he's in an England top - He's solid, contributes to attacks and we have no one better.
    The Kane question is ridiculous, if he is playing bad, we have subs but to not start one of our only world class players is crazy.
    Feeling very confident and have done since the start, I think this year is the year.

    • @mikeabel1660
      @mikeabel1660 Před rokem +1

      Agreed with Shaw. I think people are being a bit harsh on him. As far as the fullbacks go I don't think there's been a big difference between any of them. I think the only reason he came off yesterday for Tripps was to give him a rest.

  • @liammullan2197
    @liammullan2197 Před rokem +11

    Shaw always makes himself available in space for a simple pass. Something which, in my opinion, is still missing from the English game despite decades of us complaining about not being able to retain possession.

  • @cs100b6
    @cs100b6 Před rokem +30

    How are they doubting Luke Shaw ????? Haha, been 7/10 each game

    • @bagpussmacfarlan9008
      @bagpussmacfarlan9008 Před rokem

      Yep, first name on the team sheet given we don't have a natural replacement...been great so far

    • @seanmckeown2920
      @seanmckeown2920 Před rokem

      These fellas should be debating what fade you should have

  • @AlexDeLarge77
    @AlexDeLarge77 Před rokem +12

    I have head criticism of Kane and I can’t believe it.
    Yes, he’s the captain and a striker and his job is to score goals, but people that understand football know, he’s more than that. He can play.
    He has a brilliant footballing brain and his passing is on another level.
    He will come good and when it matters he will score.
    My only concern is he tired but I was pleased that Southgate took him off.
    In fact Southgate’s game management and substitutions have been on point.

    • @FootballAndSuch
      @FootballAndSuch Před rokem +1

      Similar to Jesus at Arsenal but let's be honest you want GOALS from your main striker. I love Jesus at Arsenal but fully understand why he doesn't start for Brazil.
      The "if you understood football" bs is just old now.

    • @prometheus8073
      @prometheus8073 Před rokem

      Harry Kane always starts slow, but I think he really only needs 1 goal to kickstart him.
      So far both Harry Kane and Callum Wilson are looking to make the right pass and assist especially for our wingers who cut in.
      Southgate has been managing players, I really believe he kept Harry Kane in against USA so that Kane could try to get his 1st goal of the tournament.
      Almost all forwards need a goal for their confidence.
      It's going to be a tough tournament for England.
      France probably will have the hardest route in the knockout phase, followed by England.

  • @filly1up
    @filly1up Před rokem +18

    I think saka should still start next match. Maybe but rashford on the left over Sterling. But foden or maddison over mount in that cam position. Jude and Rice in the midfield. Shaw, maguire, stones and walker. And pickford in goal but wouldnt mind seeing ramsdale

  • @eldeeb6433
    @eldeeb6433 Před rokem +4

    Shaw's been one of our best players.
    He also performed a first-touch Ronaldo chop nutmeg.

  • @amarvijh4504
    @amarvijh4504 Před rokem +13

    When it comes to Man Utd players this group is very negative, very very negative and it's sad.

  • @connorwilson4357
    @connorwilson4357 Před rokem +12

    I think Bellingham playing in that transitional role between the front 3 and the defensive mids is perfect. Even against a very defensive Wales he unlock a lot of doors with his ability. I think that requires have Rice and Hendo or Rice and Phillips behind him (I prefer hendo as he provides a bit more width, intelligence and leadership) but I think that midfield 3 give the perfect balance we need.
    Walker played last night like he needs to start the rest of the tournament, did everything so cleanly and countered any potential pace of Dan James. Especially with Trippier not blowing anyone away so far he would slot in perfectly for me, which makes the back 4 and easy selection.
    I think Kane, Rashford and Saka are probably the 3 to play as they all bring something different. You get the width and running at Players with Saka, Kane dropping deep to make space and play others through and then Rashford getting inbehind the defensive and looking really powerful. It's a shame Foden to not make the XI but he's the perfect sub if you need someone to get on the ball and create those angles and either play as a 10 or slot in for Saka if he's not getting much success.
    I'd rate last night an 8, strong performance against a very defensive team. Could've been better but 2 decent halves more so the second and I'm looking forward to our next game.

  • @jameswann4636
    @jameswann4636 Před rokem +2

    James Alcott is great to listen to.

  • @gmatic8230
    @gmatic8230 Před rokem +8

    Its simple. Play Foden.

    • @tbow6719
      @tbow6719 Před rokem

      If only Southgate could take a note from the most successful manager in the Prem and start him more

  • @sunizzo
    @sunizzo Před rokem +4

    ---------------Pickford
    Walker-Stones-Maguire-Shaw
    ---Hendo-Rice-Bellingham
    -------Saka-Kane-Foden
    This is the best team after the group games. Hendo is a fantastic leader on the pitch - very vocal, g's up his teammates, old school captain. He also allows Bellingham to get forward. Rashford has been good in spurts, but he's better off the bench against tired legs. Saka is a bit more effective in and around the box and in tight areas.

    • @ajfraser7648
      @ajfraser7648 Před rokem

      Agreed, I prefer Rashford and Sterling off the bench. Unleash the extra pace later on in the game.

  • @ewannorth9397
    @ewannorth9397 Před rokem +3

    Confused... Luke Shaw has been one of our best players...? He was one a few plus points against USA. Trppier hasnt been great left back or right back when he has played.

  • @luthandohlatuka7113
    @luthandohlatuka7113 Před rokem +1

    The slander against Rashford is disgusting. The guy scored 2 goals and is disrespected because of the chance he missed the first half. This James guy thinks he knows it all. Bias AF.

  • @olivertharrison
    @olivertharrison Před rokem +6

    We can only move forwards

  • @Jack-sc3dn
    @Jack-sc3dn Před rokem +3

    This man really went at Shaw once again

  • @SuitcaseShuffle
    @SuitcaseShuffle Před rokem +1

    Tough tests ahead, but we need to attack this World Cup. We're strong upfront and have the players to unlock the best defences.

  • @CoachDamo
    @CoachDamo Před rokem +3

    Again with the Shaw slander 😂 Yea you can want more from him but it's ridiculous to start thinking about putting Trippier in there. IF it's a back 3 and you need a LWB I'd play Trippier too.
    But these fantasies need to be reigned in, same as with Foden at #10. It's not the time. Play your best LB = Shaw

    • @benwebster7583
      @benwebster7583 Před rokem

      I’m a fan of trippier but he hasn’t played particularly well this WC. His passing has been off and he’s not contributing much going forward. Can’t see the sense in moving him to LB.

  • @BohemianRaichu
    @BohemianRaichu Před rokem +5

    People talk like Southgate had never played Foden before.

  • @a.s1232
    @a.s1232 Před rokem +4

    kane not scoring is a tactical issue, he doesnt drop so deep so often at spurs, only when spurs arent getting the ball and having chances, so thats southgates problem, but it also seems like rn kanes role is more creative than a finisher, he’s made the best chances which has allowed the others to score so much

  • @bestfullyy
    @bestfullyy Před rokem +1

    how can you question Declan Rice lol. insane. one of England's best players and does an essential job that no one else can do

  • @StanPW88
    @StanPW88 Před rokem +3

    I think Shaw's doing well

    • @astroidroach1873
      @astroidroach1873 Před rokem +1

      As a England fan we always gotta point something bad in a victory instead of celebrating the win 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @jimmyrace1258
    @jimmyrace1258 Před rokem +4

    Trippier was garbage in the first 2 games. How can he want him to play? 😂

  • @jhaych
    @jhaych Před rokem +13

    I thought Henderson was poor, he lost the ball a lot.

  • @joelstevens6792
    @joelstevens6792 Před rokem +2

    Southgate thinks hes worked it out with playing 3 defenders in midfield to win the ball high up the pitch for the attackers to be able to score from. Why can't we have midfielders that can pass the ball to the strikers instead? because high press won't work against good talented teams, Brazil won't get scared by Hendo running around like a headless chicken.

    • @colour1246
      @colour1246 Před rokem

      Probably because it’s worked for him in the prem and champions league so far

    • @joelstevens6792
      @joelstevens6792 Před rokem

      @@colour1246 no because KDB is the number one player in that position and Foden also has more flexibility....

  • @_CoasterNinja
    @_CoasterNinja Před rokem

    Great video

  • @seanmckeown2920
    @seanmckeown2920 Před rokem

    If Kane won the silver boot in this tournament it would be the perfect display of how good he is as a player. He is slow but he manufacturer's everything regardless of that. An example of how good determination can be

  • @jacques5869
    @jacques5869 Před rokem

    Someone's got to say it... keep your feet firmly on the ground!! England could have played any combination of players and easily walked through Wales. They were pretty abysmal in every aspect of their game if we're being completely honest. All the praise being given to Foden and Rashford is a little bit OTT considering they did a combined nothing particularly great in the first half and had 25 minutes of genuinely quality play in the second. My biggest concern is with the incoming abuse when this same England team can't break down Senegal in 90 minutes because they have some semblance of quality like the USA had...

  • @NeeksSports
    @NeeksSports Před rokem

    Weird conversation about Luke Shaw... Nothing wrong with his performances so far 🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @Sparkz147
    @Sparkz147 Před rokem

    Still don't see what Walker adds that Trent or Trips are not much better at. He's a good RCB in this squad but in a back 4 there isn't a spot for him.

  • @ninety_ldn
    @ninety_ldn Před rokem

    The decision to start Foden on the right was a mistake by Southgate. He isnt going to play there later on in the tournament, and his best position is on the left anyway, so why even bother trying it. Foden - Kane - Saka, Jude as the attacking b2b, and we will have so much more creativity than mount sterling.

  • @mrhussain9008
    @mrhussain9008 Před rokem

    That guy with the glasses is a friend Of Gareth Southgate, and is definitely knows more about Southgates thinking than meets the eye. Praising Mason Mount?? Also saying Luke Shaw has been average? They can not be more wrong. Mount has been trash, and Shaw has been one the best left backs in the World Cup so far. I feel these guys know Southgate will play trippier as a LB and Mount as a number 10 in KO rounds, so they're praising the players he will pick.

  • @eff943
    @eff943 Před rokem

    5:45 I bet Kyle Walker has never been referred to as sophisticated in his whole life lmaooo🤣
    Shaw's not perfect and I would've had Chilwell starting at the Euros last year, but he's consistent and I'd say his place is the one least in doubt rn lol

  • @joelstevens6792
    @joelstevens6792 Před rokem

    when you watch England and south gates England its always the same.... they give you a little bit of satisfaction to keep you but you know there could be so much more and its frustrating as hell....... yes yes innuendos...
    Basically every England fan know if you play a creative number 10 in Englands midfield Foden with the two pivots behind that England would come alive but he just won't do it. 3 DMs is overkill, I know people call Bellinghams all action which he is but he is not like a Scholes or Gazza or Zidane or something... hes a box to box and doesn't create what a foden or grealish could playing in there.
    please do it Southgate even if its just in a second half for 20 mins.

    • @joelstevens6792
      @joelstevens6792 Před rokem

      for people that say "Pep plays him on the wing" City have KDB! or I bet you he would play Foden central and he would play central for any other club in the Prem

  • @rjflores438
    @rjflores438 Před rokem

    Walker, Foden and Rashford must start the next game. I would also like to see James Maddison be brought on in the 2nd half in the number 10 position. If Southgate doesnt use him in the entire tournament that would be a massive shame and a waste of such a creative and talented player

    • @jamescorlett5272
      @jamescorlett5272 Před rokem

      Maddison Must be mad as hell inside - I hope he will get his chance but know matter what Southgate I feel will not find a place for him other than - back of the bus .

  • @FukinMikeAlright
    @FukinMikeAlright Před rokem

    Phoden is good but I don't think we need to get the tissues out, played well but goal could've been scored by any player in that position, think the lad needs to come on alot before he's starting 11, same with rash 1 gr8 goal, 1 scruffy goal, fair few dropped passes an touches, scrub up an they should both be there as starters but neither seem ready yet IMO

    • @benwebster7583
      @benwebster7583 Před rokem

      So you want to stick with the team that crawled to a 0-0 against a poor USA side?

    • @FukinMikeAlright
      @FukinMikeAlright Před rokem

      @@benwebster7583 nope never said that :)

  • @scottkoppschall9802
    @scottkoppschall9802 Před rokem

    8.0000003245 for England
    9.33003254 for Southgate

  • @cluckingbell1772
    @cluckingbell1772 Před rokem

    Keep Saka, Mount and Sterling on the the bench. Simples

  • @michaelwood8284
    @michaelwood8284 Před rokem

    Who are these guys?

  • @CharlesLeclerc_fan
    @CharlesLeclerc_fan Před rokem

    If only Mount can play 8 he is not a 10, his best position is as a 8

  • @aliazman7567
    @aliazman7567 Před rokem

    Against france in the quarter finals but im sorry its game over for England

  • @AvfcMason
    @AvfcMason Před rokem

    We Can Only move forward 🐌

  • @footyball66
    @footyball66 Před rokem +2

    I was raging in the first half. England were going backwards again!, every time they passed it backwards! even when there was space to turn and go forwards. Why didn't we attack like we did in the 2nd half.....why didn't we do that in the first half!

    • @WizzyImz
      @WizzyImz Před rokem

      We didn't do it in the first half cause there was no freekick goal to drag us out of a rut. If rashford didn't score the freekick the second half performance would've been the same as the first. No plan just luck

  • @Cantab28
    @Cantab28 Před rokem

    why didn't Southgate start Foden the 1st 2 games?

  • @siddharthsingh7378
    @siddharthsingh7378 Před rokem

    If England wants to win wc foden and Walker must play every game

  • @thegeneral6045
    @thegeneral6045 Před rokem +1

    Trippier is bait mid af it’s frustrating

    • @iRoChoLLXD
      @iRoChoLLXD Před rokem

      That statement is bait.

    • @Sam-_-
      @Sam-_- Před rokem

      He’s only there because Chilwell was injured.

  • @mattholloway7945
    @mattholloway7945 Před rokem

    These 3 deluded turned it off as soon as it was these 3

  • @benharris5621
    @benharris5621 Před rokem +1

    What’s with this shaw hate you guys need to watch the games

  • @jnktekkerz5648
    @jnktekkerz5648 Před rokem +6

    Harry Maguire 🐐

    • @ryanflood635
      @ryanflood635 Před rokem

      Lol he looked like that troll from lord of the rings running forward ending with that glorious headshot attempt on the linesman.

  • @DrawnInk1
    @DrawnInk1 Před rokem +1

    Great chat lads, re: Kane he just needs to stick in the box and he’ll score more.

    • @xXSuperman117
      @xXSuperman117 Před rokem

      Only if they can create chances.. we have zero creativity

  • @andrewfarnden7111
    @andrewfarnden7111 Před rokem

    We can only move forwards 🐌

  • @suthir_nadar
    @suthir_nadar Před rokem

    This might be a weird take but I feel Trent and Philips should come in for Walker and Rice, cuz they were able to feed the ball more into the forward players than Walker who was finding it difficult to find a pass....and Rice cuz he likes to dribble forward with the ball and he can't do that cuz he is a sitting 6, when Philips plays he has the passing range to find the channel balls...and when he was on instantly he found two passes for Rashy... ‼️

  • @PaulHattle
    @PaulHattle Před rokem

    Rice is the man. Nobody talks about him but you know he's there. He gives extra confidence to the flair players.

  • @TheWoodchip101
    @TheWoodchip101 Před rokem

    Only forwards

  • @robbietheuncean
    @robbietheuncean Před rokem

    Jimmys been gym

  • @drewsummerz2879
    @drewsummerz2879 Před rokem +2

    James agenda stinks ...for the 500th time😑

  • @multiyumz
    @multiyumz Před rokem +2

    SOOO HEATED!!!

  • @mick5207
    @mick5207 Před rokem +1

    Shaw is the best player so far .. Don't get a mention on any of Woke English channels.... It's all about Bellend and Co....