The Darkest Scandal in NFL History | Paid to Kill | NFL Documentary |
Vložit
- čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
- The New Orleans Saints Bounty Gate Scandal. Thanks for Watching! Remember to comment like and subscribe and request what you would like to see next in the comments below
Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=2388259
Led by Greg Williams
bounty hunters: Jonathan Vilma, Darren Sharper, Roman Harper,
0:00 Intro
1:31 Greg Williams is Hired
3:15 Bounty on Kurt Warner
5:20 Bounty on Brett Farve
8:00 The Bounty System Explained
9:27 The Saints Hit List
12:43 Investigation is Closing in
13:28 Bounty Bowl
15:41 The Infamous Bounty Audio
19:29 The Walls are closing in
23:18 Punishments - Sport
Are Bounties still being set in the NFL? Let me know!
Not in the NFL anymore. Definitely in your local pee-wee league though lol.
No doubt
hell no lmao this is a soap opera now
it wasnt just the saints
it wasnt just the staint
IT WASNT JUST THE SAINTS!!!!!
:(((((
The fact that Greg Williams didn’t receive a lifetime ban from the league tells me everything I need to know about how seriously the NFL takes this.
Did he not? I thought he did cuz the video said he got banned indefinitely
agree not only that but i think he should had to pay for any players long term problems from those injuries
@@user-li8if6pd9xindefinitely at the time of the ban. Later they mentioned he's floated around the league since returning. Can't remember if they said he's still active or not.
It's a violent game. Why get mad when one side decides to be more violent. I'm not saying its right but definitely something you should expect.
Why would he? People soft man. He paid his players extra for doing a good job… you realize the entire league be doing this but without the money?
He just paid them.
It still blows my mind that this not only happened, but that the NFL tried to cover it up. Absolutely shameful
How’s it shameful Brett Farve even said he never cared about bounty gate!
@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9
Noone cares about Brett he was a Bozo. Players like, Brady, Cousins and Mahomes would say the are happy the Bounty gate was stopped and Caught
@@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9shocker. the piece of shit saints fan defends it
Hey, they’ve got to protect the integrity of the game. 😂
Have you heard of the patriots? The nfl literally burned the spy gate footage.
Crazy how this never gets discussed, and the penalties are arguable laughable, but the PSI of a football in New England is like the freaking holocaust to the NFL.
People felt sorry for New Orleans, a steaming shthole of a city, after Katrina....
One word: Katrina. No one wants to talk about it because of what the Saints winning the Super Bowl meant to the city of New Orleans. As a Houston sports fan whose first baseball team also won their first championship amidst both a hurricane and a scandal, it baffles me how the Astros can never live it down, but the Saints can.
Katrina was 4 years before the Saints won a SB. Also, it's been wide spread knowledge that the majority, if not all franchises in the NFL have had a bounty program at some point. The Saints are the ones who got caught, so now everyone has their scapegoat and can just pretend like their franchise is perfect and has never dont any bad.@@Gemnist98
Dude down here we don't. People never live it down not everyone lives on the internet. Both my parents are life long Saint's(and Astro, they're kinda like Lousisanian's unoffical baseball team, and they carry that scandal with shame ) they carry
this with shame, most Saints fans do. People always talk about bounty gate.
@@evannlorman7926Ima be honest…it never seems to be brought up in convos about the Saints golden season. And tbh…I never took it as much of a big deal from the very beginning cause I always thought that every team secretly operates like that to some degree. I’ve played football from the time I was 6 till high school. Been a part of enough teams, under enough coaches and in enough locker room discussions to understand that more often than not…the higher ups are willing to look the other way or lose some morals if they think they can get away with it. From the very beginning. From a kid being over weight or too old, to encouraging the targeting of a known weak spot of another player. I always assumed, long before bounty gate was brought to light, that coach’s congratulate and or reward players for taking out other players with a hard hit.
Seeing that Kurt Warner hit was crazy. How tf do you let your qb get hit like that and not do anything about it? I’d be furious
@@rubberjohnny911 fax thats a fair hit
@@rubberjohnny911Not really what he’s saying. Maybe it is but i think he’s saying how did the offense specifically the Oline let their QB take a hit like that and they just stood there
I wholeheartedly agree
And his amnesia made him say "so what? That's football." Good hell, Warner.
"He becomes human when we f**kin take out that outside ACL” - that sent chills down my spine. Clear intent to injure and end the career of a professional football player. How come Greg Williams never faced the justice and spent years in jail?
Money, fame, luck, people defending this bullshit who say things like “iTs HoW tHe GaMe WoRkS”
So true, he should’ve been prosecuted along with all pitchers who hit batters with a pitch.
It's literally a part of the game, how are you going to convict? He told his players to target specific body parts of other players so it's illegal now?
I don't think it's right, or that he should coach again, but some of you just react so emotionally to things without thinking them through.
Shii is messed up but y tf would dude go to jail for doin his job shii not a crime outside the nfl wtf😂😂😂
@@Weimerica8841yes, like literally. hits are a part of the game but intentionally injuring players is physical assault
Its supremely shameful for the NFL to see this and still allow greg williams to coach in the NFL.
I know Right!!!
Same with Vilma commentating games
There both POS
@@justinleandoer6821 True!!!!
He is allowed to coach because this was a manufactured “scandal”….fake scandal and fake news from goodell who HATED Coach Payton and crew
The fact that there were so many people coming forward saying bounties were commonplace should've clued the NFL in that they had to set an example. Every single person involved should've had at minimum a year-long suspension with some of the significant figures involved being permanently removed from the NFL.
Fuck a year long suspension they all shouldve been banned for life...NFL is a privilege once you take that privilege and manipulate it to purposefully cause injury you should never been allowed to play again
Exactly the saints only got the stick because they weren't supposed to win the super bowl, we all know that Tracy Porter went off script in both the NFC Championship game and the superbowl when he intercepted both favre & Manning to seal the game !!!
Sad to hear that Vilma offered money on farve's head. I loved him when he was on the jets and had his rookie cards. Also, those bounties prices were pretty low considering their salaries. It makes everything seem much worse
I’m not, Brett Favre is a scumbag
Did he also participate in bounty hunting at the University of Miami?
He's also a moron and is now one of the worst announcers in the NFL. Sucks that they let that bum ruin so many games
You *know* there was a bounty and the hits were dirty when Cam Newton actually gets a roughing the passer call 😂
Fax they ain’t ever care about cam
Fr I feel like its happened to Cam so much I wasn’t even surprised when I found out Cam was on the bounty list
@@donnysofree he was a whiny bitch who cares
@Bruce doesn’t matter bro oh my god. Panthers fans hate this argument. Every QB should get the same calls
Swear to god bro, I can probably count on one hand the amount of roughing the passer calls he got and he was getting roughed up like every pass lol
The darkest NFL scandal is when the NFL themselves tried to cover up CTE research and silence whistleblowers, they would send goons after people in black SUVs
Happens in every sport. The former tour de france boss informed teams when drug controls came and hindered Investigations where he could. They even paid doctors so they said under oath there is no doping
@@kasperhauser4748 hiding doping vs brain damage is vastly different
They still do.
@@anthonyc2781try and read the very first sentence again. He’s talking about all sports having scandals and even gave an example
Dude I so agree with you you know yourself the saints were not the biggest scandal it was the CTE injuries! Look at the Saints versus 49ers NFC divisional playoff game where Pierre Thomas was hit in the head which now would be a targeting penalty and possibly thrown out of a game but yet no one talks about that! It's football these guys sign a contract that says the risk that's why they get paid the amount of money they do I work a dangerous job and I signed a contract. I work for a major airline and I know I can be injured in a sec. If you sign a contract you know what the risk are go Saints
That bounty audio was fucking insane, that sounds like something a prosecutor would use as evidence in a criminal case, I’d ask how he hasn’t been tried in court but that’s not how things work in positions like these
⚪️
@@christensenpierre949⚫️ ⚫️ ⚫️
As a lifelong saints fan, I can agree to an extent with Kurt and Brett’s views on the bounty. But there’s a limit. Targeting people with history of injuries and concussions, trying to make it so they can’t play the game again it way too far. The car assembly comparison was perfect.
To me as a fellow lifelong saints fan, it makes me feel like our superbowl was cheap. Winning the superbowl at the cost of careers and potentially severely injuring people. Wish we could have won in 2018 just so that we had a superbowl unshadowed by the likes of Bounty Gate
Crazy how players would be motivated by .5 or 1% of their salary to end careers. Shameful.
That what I was thinking, there game checks had to be 10’s if not 100’s of thousands of dollars
It's not just money, it's about winning. If you injury the opponent's best players, you are more likely to win.
lol tell me you've never played ball without saying it
@@Mrsolodolo98 you've literally never played professional football so why does your opinion matter
@@DR.64A9 doesn’t make this right but then again we are talking about green men playing a game 🤷🏻♂️
This is another example of how the NFL does not care about the health of its players. Greg William's should not be on any NFL coaching staff.
Dudes get paid millions to play a game
@@mikebowling1378 exactly not to get injured for life and to never play again you see the problem now genius
But the patriots can openly cheat defeat balls and get away with it
@@mikebowling1378 And? So what, Captain Dicinmouth? So they should have their careers shortened and lives threatened because of some other player looking to get paid by some goof, for committing dirty cheap shots? You are the reason why homeschooling and inbreeding are generally frowned upon in this Country. Put your helmet back on, give mommy her phone back and go finish your fucking coloring book.
Williams cried like a baby when it came time to try and get his job back. He’s one of those weaklings who just talk tough because they’re not!
And let’s not forget that Williams was hired many more times after bountygate went public. I still remember that dirty KO hit against Teddy Bridgewater when he was Rams D Coordinator. Probably kept the bounties going to some extent
I'm a Saints fan, but I have to admit you've approached this pretty evenly. The practice may not have been exclusively the Saints, but wow, did they ever get caught red-handed. I love the audio of Williams 'apology,' claiming to "getting caught up in it...." LMAO Greg Williams BUILT it!!!
Well it was known all around the league that bounty gate was a thing and all teams were doing it!!!
I can't fault players for playing hard, but when they are going in with the intent and financial incentive to injure particular players, that feels like it crosses a line.
Fully agree
I just feel like some this is just some guys hitting hard. It’s common knowledge for any player that if they get a free shot at the QB, take it. LEGALLY. A lot of these are legal, but there are a lot of bad ones.
Him calling out players in meetings is bad. But coaches say things like that a lot. They just don’t mean it literally
You people sound like victims
I think the reason he was able to come back to coach is that they are ones who got caught. Many teams did this stuff. If they didn’t, it would of been more shocking and those players, and coaches would never associate with the nfl again
"That feels?" Uh, it's immortal and illegal.
Gregg's apology is what annoys me. He isn't sorry nor was he regretful for any actions, he's just sorry that he got caught.
Ok he's not sorry. So what
much like the movie 300, the hunchbacks just dont understand whats going on on that field. You want them to make you roar, but when the friggin media portray it from the perspective of a pencil pushing dweeb, you all pile on. Its war on that field and only because of a coach sharing verbally, theatrics, nothing but theatrics, everyone piles on.
The game is too fast, played on a field thats not grown with the players. This is a large part of the problem with many sports today. None of thes mofo's could catch Doug Flutie, but if they did.... The greatest hits are when one guy doesnt see it coming. Many QB's lack situational awareness because of the protection they are afforded. How would you all feel if the Quarterback just fell flat on his face when theres a turnover? To avoid a hit that hes entitled to if he pursues the ball... Isnt that what people want? To hear an apology. The game is a war, these guys say many things that would scare most of the non players who follow the game. Im sure he really wasnt interested in ending these mens careers... What a bunch of bored silly media fan boys people have become.....
You realize the large majority of apologies like that aren’t sincere right? When it comes to athletes, actors, & just about everyone else in the entertainment business, the statements put out are done by lawyers & PR teams. Ofc it’s not heartfelt or genuine.
2020's NFL is right up your alley Ahsan... it's pussy football, unwatchable
he shouldnt be sorry the NFL is soft so he paid his ppl a bit more for playing better? GEAUX SAINTS
After all of this Jonathan Vilma was allowed to do commentary for games and do segments in studios and Greg Williams was still allowed to coach. Unreal. These guys should have never been allowed to be involved with the NFL in any way ever again. This isn't competitiveness it's just sadistic.
Absolutely insane that Williams was able to come back and find a team to work for faster than Sean 😂😂
Who wouldn’t want a coach so dedicated? He’s arguably one of the best defensive coaches to ever play the game..
@@lilholographic722 He is a despicable human being. Here in Buffalo, he is still remembered for the pompous/know it all ass he was (and still is). He was bitter that he didn't get the head coaching job when he was in Cleveland and took his sad act to the Jets where he again knocked heads with the rest of the coaching staff and was fired after calling a ridiculous end-of-game full blitz and allowing the Raiders to beat the Jets. I hope he never coaches anywhere again
The craziest thing about the whole scandal is that so many players were willing to do this to other players--intentionally injuring and trying to end the careers of other players for relatively tiny amounts of money. Absolutely disgusting. Hyenas.
Yes, now that you mentioned it!!!
I was thinking the same thing, only $5K for injuring QBs. Basically pocket change to them considering I’m almost certain even nfl rookie contracts get at least $1-$2 million 🤦♂️🤦♂️
WHO DAT PUSSIES
@@KS-zr5og what do you mean by that?
@@KS-zr5og yeah what do you mean by that
To do that to a frank gore who is so respected in the League and knowing he had to battle back from Horrifying injuries in college is just wild man
Frank a dog, he knew the deal, that's why he played they way he did, he knew players were trying to hurt him, so his mentality was hurt them first.
What’s crazy is a lot played at the U together on the same team
@@barrymuzzleman1002I didn’t even think about that that’s wild
Read Jim McMahon's biography, he talks about defenders from Green Bay (if memory serves me right) having the numbers of "targeted" Chicago Bears actually written on the towels hanging from their waist. This is far from a "modern era" issue.
God damn this is dark. This tremendously ups my respect for all the good dudes who went up against these guys and defended eachother. Present day gladiators.
the problem with this, the only reason the NFL suspended anyone involved, is that the players were being offered money outside of their contracts. not the fact they were trying to hurt players, but because of the money. they never cared about player safety. all they care about is the money.
Yes. The NFL I grew up with is gone. The NFL has gone the way of the NBA….woke, money hungry, use players and throw them away. Feigning moral and ethical standards for mere optics…image… Sad reality is that money is God of NFL.
Who cares. You don't care about their safety, so stop being hypocritical
None of this is true. $1500 is not enough to motivate nfl players, that’s chump change
I am NFL hear me roar
That argument though about NFL caring only for money is counter-intuitive because if their star players are hurt then who replaces them, backup players? Without the stars then it will hurt their overall product, ratings and ticket sales and thus, their ability to make more money.
Alex Smith cementing his legacy as one of the toughest QBs in NFL history
As a Saints fan I can only respect it. But more respect for Farve for not bitching about it. Kurt Warner too.😅⚜️
lmao Saints fan and respect don't go well in the same sentence@@divineeternity7268
@@divineeternity7268I was a saints fan always until that season when they cheated so bad. Not anymore. I hate a cheater.
Respect for what? The saints should have had to give the trophy back.
@@barbarahartzog7631 I disagree. They was only playing football in my opinion. Players are going to get hit and sometimes they are going to get injured. It's apart of the game. I can see if Drew Brees was inflating the footballs though.
@@divineeternity7268hits are part of the game, ending careers for money because you couldn’t bother making a defense that actually functions is not part of the game
It’s not often I enjoyed a video so much that I want to watch it again after so long. This was very well put together. Great video
I can’t help but think about the Antonio brown hit, makes you wonder just how much of this is actually happening in the nfl right under our noses
This is so sickening and sad. Why intentionally try to destroy a man's ability to provide for his family through football? These bounties could have easily paralyzed or killed a player.
The Ring. And the sad truth is, it fucking worked.
You're on a losing team for too long people start calling you a joke. Sometimes calling for your job, if not your head. You've been primed since college and told that the love of the game needs to come second to winning always. The only teams who can afford to have integrity are the teams that can win. Period. They wanted the ring. They wanted the Lombardi. They sold their souls to get it. Saddest part is, I don't think there is a single person on that Saints team who regrets it.
I love watching football. Happy I never tried to go pro. Probably won't let my kids do it either.
@@gregdeandrea1450you cooked my man
@@gregdeandrea1450there were multiple other teams with a bounty system that year including the Vikings
Evidence.
Saints fans are bitches. They cry so hard over 1 missed penalty yet make excuses for this.
@@LandonRobertsproof? Cause we got proof of the saints lmao
I remember watching the 2009 NFC championship game discussing with my dad that they seemed to be purposely cheap-shotting the Vikings, and that neither of us had ever seen something like that before
No. They had a plan and the plan was to hit just like it was the week before versus the Cardinals. And it was the same versus the colts in the SB. The only thing is the colts had better protection. Greg Williams is a guy who did lots of blitzing. They hit Favre as much as possible via blitzing because as Sharper his former teammate & as we all know Favre will throw around 4-5 dangerous passes & if you get to him he might throw more. He was intercepted 2 times now 1 he was high & low which was legal & wasn't penalized.. it was very close. That was the game plan it worked. Plus AP fumbled a lot a record amount in a championship game I believe the turnovers is why the Saints won. In today's game you can't even sneeze on the quarterback without getting a penalty. Now do I think the game plan is a little harsh... Yes. At the same time I didn't sign a waiver saying I knew football was a dangerous sport and that I could be injured at any time on the field. The game plan worked. Plus the crowd was loud. It caused a penalty on the Vikings thus putting them out of field-goal range. Then we all know what happened on the next play. One of the greatest plays and Saints history! Pick by Tracy Porter. OT Saints win a great game!
@@StarWars_Theories except Favre nearly snapping his ankle from 2 dirty hits also had a massive impact. When he rolled out and didn’t run it on that interception a big part of that decision can be blamed on his ability to run on that ankle. Greg Williams has always been a piece of shit. He has been at everyone of his coaching stops. His bounties showed a lack of respect towards the other players in the league and it’s why he has a bad reputation.
@@braydensoderholm7132 it wasn't dirty Favre even said it. It was a high & low hit at the exact same time. WKFAN even admitted the Saints were playing hard they knew what everyone knows that's Favre will throw a few dangerous passes plus all the fumbles. Game over!
Robe the Vikes from competing for a Superbowl.
@@TheMagarro Viks had 6 turnovers they lost end of story!
I can totally see a coach proposing this to his players but the fact that the players went for it is what baffles me. I would’ve assumed they’d jump up and say hell no, even for the money.
seeing favre and warner getting laid out like that, knowing that it was with violent intent. man, that's hard to watch. Let's just say, I'm happy every time the Vikings beat the Saints in heartbreaking fashion now.
The Vikings had a bounty system as well and so did half the league.
@LandonRoberts doesn't make what the saints did right. Also, you do know artis hicks walked back those claims, right?
@@FecklessSpoon lol stfu 😂 if it wasn’t true he would’ve never said it in the first place. No if doesn’t make it right but it also shouldn’t make them the sole target of all the blame . They were just the scapegoat so the NFL wouldn’t have to punish the whole league. Similar to the Astros in 2017. More than 3 other teams were caught but instead of punishing all of them they inflicted light punishments but gave them all the spotlight to take away the blame for other teams
@@LandonRobertsNope. Artis Hicks was misquoted and said later that the Vikings did not have a bounty program.
@@FecklessSpoonHe's willfully ignorant.
It's amazing that none of these actually went to Court in the justice system. If I were to place a bounty on a co-worker I would certainly end up with jail time. How is it that these guys get away with this and face no legal consequences?
Money
You think a coach who paid his players to tackle with intent to injure should be punishable by law? Lol. Gtfoh bro. I understand this triggers a lot of people but I love it,, and the reason America and society as a whole is full of pussies today is bc they wet themselves with passive aggressiveness when football and hockey are about watching overpaid millionaires who are max trained go out there and kill each other for entertainment. Idk I think this is a really soft statement.
Well if you have an issue with a co-worker why not handle it like Men used to do. Girls are usually in search or to place a bounty.
@@chestrockwell1794you a middle aged whitey huh
They make millions for the economy you make 46.x in tax deductions not hard to understand.
They beat the holy hell out of Brett FARVE... I was screaming at TV like yo this game fixed.. refs wasn't calling none of those hits.. but FARVE being the warrior still took it to OT
Those hits were legal back then
Brett Favre was the last of the real QBs in the NFL. He was a real man who had balls big as cocanuts
Every single hit we made on Favre and Warner were 100% legal.
@@kainefolse3845 no they was not...but who cares that was long ago and NFL been screwing saints ever since🤣🤣🤣
I watched Warner get brutalized. I lost count after 7+ no calls deliberately at his head. Then they did the same Farve.
Trying to end an opponent's career was blatantly obvious.
Thanks for doing this! I share this with my class, highlighting violence in sport
17:31 “He becomes human when we f**kin take out that outside ACL” I got chills hearing that. The guy should’ve never been able to come back to football, encouraging that is fucked up.
He should’ve been in prison for years imo. Paying money to injure guys is illegal and just because it was on a football field shouldn’t make them exempt from serious punishment for their actions.
@@dafuzzbear7711that’s actually so true. Half of these hits aren’t even abiding by the rules of the nfl, they’re just a guy taking advantage of being next to a dude that has a $1k bounty on his head.
@@dafuzzbear7711 😂😂😂, too start if you think he was the only doing this or the mastermind...at least half the league was doing this at one point... at least 4-6 teams that season..... furthermore it's part of the game violence and injury a lot of the hits were actually clean, the violent side of football isn't new and has always been there so have bounties to an extent... your carrying a cross for people who don't ask you too... why have so many of the targets come out and said they don't care , maybe because everyone or a lot of guys behave like this aka it's part of the game... stop carrying a torch for people who don't want you to carry it...
Your name's goes but that give you chills. Haven't you ever coach youth football this is what I told my kids
It takes a real fucked up person to utter those words…
It was always insane to me that these guys were making six figures, and in many cases much more. Yet they would participate in something like this that only pays a few hundred bucks to help motivate them. It’s Also crazy that with all the damning evidence against Williams, he just trucked along from job to job in the NFL for YEARS like all was good. Disgraceful.
It was about more than just money with the people that participated in it. They had there own agenda. You have to be an angy hateful person to do something like that.
Why are you shocked, what type of people are going to exel in a game like football? Of course they are, going to be desensitised to such actions for them it is good defense that's all. And by the way it happens in every team sports, if they are better than you technically you have to try to bully them, I don't even understand where is the scandal. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@nartali9683 sure!!!
He didn’t get in trouble because they found evidence of many other teams doing the same thing including the Vikings
@@nartali9683 Its called compassion. All the guys that were apart of this should feel compassion for other players because they dont want their careers ended over something that was completely unneeded. It just shows how sick some really are
As a 49ers fan, you forgot to Ted Ginn Junior in the video. I don't remember whose Saints knocked the hell out of Ginn Junior but losing him as a kick-returner really cost my Niners a Superbowl trip. I understand the blame for Kyle Williams, and so do I, but losing Ginn hurt the Niners more. Scoring a game-winning touchdown by Vernon Davis with 9 seconds left and beating the Saints really helped.
Besides, seeing some of those coaches and players from that Saints team still working in the NFL and not serving jail time really makes me mad, and they deserve that. Why? The American justice system, that's why.
He didn't mention it, but he showed the hit.
This has gotta be the most shameful sequence of events that ever transpired within the NFL.
Nope, not even close
they just wanted a lil bread
You're a thug
“We’re gonna make that old man retire”
Favre threw for 4,000 yards…
My high ass “Damn” 🤣
😂😂😂😂
Then retired..
Nbs 😂 😂 💯
Old men don't belong in NFL.
@@theeslimstevie Tom Brady?
Crazy how they did this to their peers, attempting to impact their livelihood and and short-/long-term health. And as others said, how is Vilma a commentator right now, and Greg Williams being able to still coach. I remember watching the vikings game live, and seeing what they did to Favre. Just crazy
Cuz its a mans game. Its a violent game. Running back do this shit all the time. Chop blocks trap play guards pulling crack blocks cmon this was just FOOTBALL. Stop being a woman
Every team does it.
I've worked for 2. They all STILL do it, by the way.
You mean pro me yeah i love me some me.
He like's hurting the NFL "*Slave's*" 😬 "*WOW*"
@@davemccombs I don’t t believe that
One of the most satisfying moments of the year so far seeing the saints get a taste of their own medicine in the 49ers divisional game.
All I'm gonna say is after watching this...a lot of things make sense. Smh great video. 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
"For the LOVE of money is the ROOT of ALL evil".
I hated it when Jeff Fisher hired Williams to run the defense for the Rams. Williams wasn't sorry...he was sorry he got caught, there is a huge difference.
I was livid when he was hired, and, as a Vikings fan, I was even more livid when Teddy Bridgewater got knocked out and put in concussion protocol when playing against them.
Worth 50 million bucks. Laughing all the way to the bank.
@@lisasmith767 and still gonna die
Fisher is a scumbag too
The darkest Scandal in NFL history is something that happened multiple times before the Saints did it. Hell, Buddy Ryan wanted his Eagles to hurt everybody, not just the quarterback
It's so obvious that this isn't the only time in NFL history that this has happened
hell yea his teams had bounties....offering $10,000..to take somebody out
@@wessleydorsey which is wild to think about considering these people have or had salaries that paid way more than 10k
They just got caught that's all.
nah nola is trashy and they have no class case closed…and its not surprising honestly
it was kinda slow at first, but once u hit the Saints-49ers game it really picked up. great video
What a job to make this video! Great work.
Hearing them talk so boldly about injuring alex smith is especially chilling, given how his career turned at the end.
Still that man had more character than the whole Saints defense.
more character than the whole saints team XD
Saints have always been a bunch of thugs.
Greg Williams is someone that should be shunned by not just the NFL, but every single sports organization in the world for what he pulled, as there's a deep drive into left field by Castellanos and that'll be a home run. And so that will make it a 4-0 ball game.
Alex Smith had a few terrible injuries and I feel bad because he was doing super good during the season each time
Facts bro
The best part of that playoff game with the Niners is Vernon Davis scoring the winning TD despite taking a big hit & Alex Smith turning to the Saints sideline after throwing the TD & screaming at Gregg Williams. The coward turned away & looked down; a beautiful moment indeed! That the NFL would later reinstate him is pathetic & callous.
The coward?
I bet that old man would beat your azz
That never happened bro. The results happened but I have every game from the Brees era & that isn't there maybe you thought that was being said. I think it was just bs'n between 2 teams that played the best last 4 mins in the playoffs I ever seen. 4 touchdowns! Saints coming back to make it a game was amazing being down big. Brees never gave up I miss him told everyone here in NOLA year 2 of the 4 straight division titles this could be his last season enjoy his greatness.
Hey just wanted to tell you that Plz read everything btw Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ love you so much that God would send his one and only son Jesus Christ to die on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead 3 days later Get a relationship with God and Jesus and confess for your sins and Live for Christ and not the world and allow God and Jesus into your hearts. God and Jesus are trying to save you from going to hell.
HELL IS NOT A JOKE. Jehovah and Jesus are all of our Gods and Lords and Saviors✝️✝️✝️✝️SPREAD THE WORD✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️Pray to Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ get saved today ✝️✝️✝️✝️SPREAD THE GOSPEL✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
Watched again... None of what you put is on there lips not one word. It's funny how people make up stuff. What matters is that the game was awesome 2 teams w the same record one whom never quit after being down big. Nearly won and shoulda. Lots of horrible Defense by the 49ers after there dominate start. Then whom benefitted the Giants team that was destroyed by the Saints a few weeks earlier. The best team as we seen this weekend don't always win. That's sports just look at the Nola no call
@@megawatts-jq5xm thank you I'm Catholic so Jesus was there for me etc. I truly thank you for your words in the name of the father, the son and the holy Spirit....amen
Very informative. Ty ❤
Forever haunting me with my 2009 Vikings🥲should’ve been our first ring.
I’d argue the NFL hiding concussions from the players, resulting in a $1B settlement is the “Darkest Scandal”
Fighting back against Katrina? They played up that angle for years. How many of those players had to sleep in the Superdome? Stay in the airport for a week...stuck in the i-10 bridge...lost everything when their $30,000 9th ward house was destroyed? Had family members drown in their own homes only because they didnt have enough money to leave... Please, money shields people from reality. Its offensive to even suggest they suffered like any real person from NO
Lol
Exactly 💯
As someone born and raised in new orleans. I think this is a fair critique but you may have stretched it a good bit. The saints have always been an extension of the city of new orleans. This city lives and breathes the saints. Also Katrina greatly affected many of the players who had homes in the state, and familes and friends who had also been greatly affected by the distruction. Yea drew brees and many other incredibly wealthy individuals of the saints may have been completely fine, but there are a lot of members of the team who are not incredibly wealthy and are living day to day on practise squads and 3rd stringers.
Good one 😂
If you ain’t from there, don’t tell us how to feel about our own damn team 😂 no other city is as attached to a football team like we are.
“Never apologize for the way we play”
- gets caught
“I’d like to apologize for the way we played”
Just saying. If you say “this will be his last game” and it was. That’s hard as fuck
I think it's absolutely hilarious (read: disgraceful) that an organization and the defensive players within it would be willing to intentionally end another player's career or ruin their off-the field existence permanently for like, $5k max. Most of those dirty/cheap hits, mathematically, had to be worth less than they get paid per tackle given their insane, multi million dollar contracts that included very generous player incentives for being league/team leaders in sacks, forced fumbles, QB pressures, etc.
Pure malice and completely unnecessary, even in a game that rewards violent tendencies. There is a world of difference between "Go out there, play hard and knock their fuckin block off" and "Target Micheal Crabtree's previously injured outside ACL on cheap sideline hits to potentially end his career." Glad that the Saints could bring it home the year of Katrina -- there were still a lot of great players playing hard within the moral confines of the game -- but this is a real stain on that narrative that won't ever go away, nor should it.
Greg Williams should be put on a practice field 10 times in a kick return drill and have pro bowl defenders strategically target his own physical weaknesses on hits. That would be some poetic justice. "10K for anybody that leads with the crown of their head into his beer gut!"
Except only a few guys on the defense are really making those big multi million dollar deals. The guys on special teams making league minimum gettin 1500-3k for de-cleating someone on kick off is substantial money to em and an incentive to play even harder. Colleges have always done this w/ helmet stickers. And actual cash at the bigger programs. But make a play or huge hit, and ya get a tag. End of the yr players helmets are covered. It’s the same thing. Football players are tryin to end careers every play and if ya think any different, you’re just kidding yourself. You think Lawrence Taylor wasn’t looking to end you when he lined up across from you? Ask Joe Theisman. And ppl actually feared LT and played different bc of it. It makes a difference when ya fear going across the middle, or get anxious droppin back to pass knowing real hitters are coming at you.
I know this is old, but I try to make this point every time I see this inconsistency.
I think it is hypocritical to wish an equal amount of barbarism on someone as a form of punishment. We shouldn't rape rapists. We shouldn't beat abusers. We shouldn't steal from thieves. We should all try to be better than the things we despise. I don't have the answer for how people SHOULD be punished for immorality. If we want justice then people who do bad things should be forced to do good things. If we want revenge, we should do it your way.
@@tjanderson5892 Injuries are supposed to be a byproduct of football, not the goal you buffoon. That’s why players kneel after injuring an opposing player as opposed to celebrate. That argument that they’re always trying to hurt people is just lazy, dumb, and outdated
@@luckyduckfarms591 I won’t say it’s hypocritical at all, it’s a punishment for someone’s actions applying equal harm to what they themselves have done to another(s), personally if someone does something awful intentionally and consciously without a important or meaningful reason, if they get killed in prison I couldn’t less. But you can’t really deliver that same amount of punishment, would it even fair to do that it if it was say, by accident? No, but the rest of world isn’t very fair either, in your form of justice it wouldn’t be very fair to the victim of the crime if it was say, sexual harassment, assault or rape to later see their attacker out and about society just being forced to good things, knowing they can easily just do the same thing all over again without much stopping them, or get revenge on the victim for calling the police on them for their crimes. Which had sadly happened before when the police let someone go on probation after serving time and he immediately used that to find and kill his ex for ratting him out for sexually assaulting her.
You can’t just hope to convince people to stop doing bad things or change them by making them do good things without just turning them into mindless husks of people that can’t even live normal lives because they’ve been continuously manipulated and broken. And if you could keep the person and their mind intact, often times you alter what makes that person themselves as well as remove those behaviors from the person, a individual and their behaviors are heavily connected with one another that remove from one, also removes from the other side, They’re just people that have those bad things ingrained in them and impacts who they are, it comes from their environment, to relationships, to experiences throughout their lives that can lead and reinforce awful behaviors and reinforce who they are, you can’t convince a serial killer to stop killing people and send them off into the world again but force them to do good things, you just have to hope that they stop getting the urge to kill people and live a normal life if you can’t find and identify them or kill/imprison them for life.
So every team and players ever. Because , like it or not, knocking players out is a good strategy to win and it's used by everyone
An idea for an appropriate punishment for Williams. Every player he ever put a bounty on gets a free shot in full pads at williams. If he gets knocked out or injured he gets to heal up and then the next guy gets his turn.
A cycle of the same injuries he put players through.
he's an old man, where as he had players legally hitting nfl players in a sport about hitting. Lol
@@thebackupaccount1154 Legally? Watch that Vikings and Saints playoff game, you cannot tell me that a majority of those hit were legal. They wanted to kill that guy
@@tmouse1234 Favre had multiple cracked ribs, 3 broken bones in his foot and a concussion. But you know it was all fair play. Like the time he was leveled 3 seconds after handing off the ball
@@thebackupaccount1154 ok then, find some retired players, like LT, that are about his age and let them have a crack at him to make it more even.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. God will give Williams what he deserves.
Love it Greg
I remember I was a kid watching farve getting smoked in that game . My uncle kept saying they’re trying to hurt him to take him out the game and he was right lol
I think anyone getting caught up in bounties like this should not be suspended, they should be fired. Instantly done. It sickens me that they went out of their way to consistently try to hurt people. Sean Payton should not have been allowed to coach anymore. It’s pathetic he is in any way involved with the nfl now. Same for Jonathon Vilma and Greg Williams. The people caught up in shit like this need to be cut out entirely from the league, if the punishment is severe enough it will stop happening.
They should all be in jail, this is why I laugh when people preach ''da law"
Funny how that system is only enforced on poor people ... It's totally legitimate though ...
agreed!
there is a TOTAL & COMPLETE difference between hard hits, laying wood and "bang-bang" plays vs intentionally going out of your way to cheap shot a guy! reprehensible!! 😡
I agree, suspensions aren’t nearly as effective, look at schools all the way to elementary level. Some people learn their lesson, some people don’t. When you’re fired, your life instantly changed, and you need to show and prove that you’ve changed as a person, and you maybe deserve one more opportunity, or else you deserve to be done for good.
I totally agree. If the NFL is so adamant about player safety then these people need to be out of the game for good. Whoa. But Sean Payton is such a great coach. Is he? He won one Super Bowl and Williams was the DC at the "beginning" of the bounty scandal. Payton should not coach again, but he will. Williams is still around too. It's all about money, not player safety.
Best revenge, saints never making another Super Bowl nor winning back to back playoff games. Sean Payton not being hall of fame worthy because of Bountygate, potential hall of famers from the title team not getting the call now except Drew Brees (see Darren Sharper), & the return of the saints darkest days as a franchise.
I VIVIDLY remember that post game presser on the NFL Network where Favre actually said those hits hurt (and that he hadn’t been hit that hard in a long time, or ever).
I remember that Farve posted the pictures of all his brusing from those hits either right after the championship game or right after bountygate got revealed
Stay classy!
I was not a fan of Favre, because of who he used to play for, but as our QB it was disgusting what the Saints did to Favre. The players who did the hits should have been fired, banned and jailed.
As a saints fan 🤷♂️ who cares yall do realize he was gonna hit anyway the way this man painted it wasn't exactly how it went it was really more of a misguided attempt to get the defense to Play their hardest was it the right way hell no but acting like him getting hit gard ain't apart of football is a little silly
@claudewillis234 hahahaha. "As a saints fan" I'm sure we're in the locker room and also looking at this objectively with no bias STFU
Imagine being Drew Breeze, a veteran, grizzled vet who is aging but still killin' it, & being the QB on this team. If he played for any other team he'd be on that list.
As a Vikings fan I will literally never stop hating the Saints until the day I die. as far as I'm concerned, Minnesota's worst enemy changed from the Packers to the Saints in 2009
the scariest part about this is that there were multiple teams doing the same thing, the saints just got caught
Exactly
Yep even the Vikings said they had a similar bounty program at the same time.
People don't want to have that conversation though....
@@Twigmyerno need to!
I wish people were this understanding about spygate then 😂 even more teams were doing that but only 1 got punished
It's weird that these players were willing to risk their careers to get a five hundred dollar bounty, but at the same time they sign contracts worth millions.
Tyrone’s committing crime? Have you looked at black crime in America? They aren’t built the same as the rest of the world.
more is better how do u not see the mindset
It probably wasn’t even for the money… They liked it. And this is why every time somebody asks me why I think adults can be bullies and do all kinds of heinous things for no apparent reason, I think of things like this. Human beings are fucked up animals.
i blame the coach
i like the new orleans saints and hate that coach
I find it hard to believe that new orleans was the only team with a bounty system. I would bet its way more common than we think.
It boggles the mind that so many players would play a clean honest games for millions of dollars but risk playing dirty for 500 or $1000 and think they won’t get caught
Lol it was never clean or honest nfl games have always been predetermined that’s why the nfl isn’t classified as a sport it’s classified as an entertainment
@@kdblackmon4214fax
Hearing the bounty audio legit gave me chills. It was hard to hear all that but it was definitely necessary so props to the reporter for recording it
@@robdupre1210 sounds like your coaches were douche bags
@@robdupre1210 man we’re told stuff like this as kids in pop Warner to hit kids hard I’m sure it still happens today the Saints just got caught and are still paying for it today
Notice how nobody went to jail !? Yet If you say something mean on Facebook you will ?
Some system you Americans have...
The last 5 seconds of this video are the best part 😂
Greg Williams was doing this same thing prior to signing with the Saints. He started this in Washington. He would give bonuses to injur other players. Thats why he was quietly let go.
there were conflicting reports that Williams also ran this bounty gate scam while he was head coach at Buffalo
Honestly, this was as bad as it got. Injuries are an unfortunate, but inevitable part of the game - a sport as physical and as violent as football will always result in injuries. But even the concept of going out there to intentionally injure players is beyond reprehensible. Frankly, the Saints got lucky - I’d have gutted their defensive coaching and playing staff, because no-one on the defensive side thought about going to the league, making them just as guilty as any of the coaching staff.
There were 4 teams that participated in a bounty system not just the saints. Saints were the scape goat because they won the Super Bowl, kind of like the Astro’s after winning a championship. If they discipline one team then they have to discipline them all
You get paid millions to play a game and you shut up and take your money. Most of these dudes grew up with nothing.
I just don't understand how this lasted so long with so many players willing to do this with such little money it's insane. You'd have to be a little off your rocker to participate in something like this for little to no money considering how much NFL players get paid.
Yeah are all demonic I hate them all, and pray God deals with them in the next life
The other team is the enemy
Period
no one stood up to say, "hey coach, l am all for hard hitting, physical play, but this is fucking bullshit!"
@GORILLA_PIMP lol when you're attempting to put people in the hospital thats not sports that's criminal.
@@gorpim you sound like you’re a bench player on JV at your local shit high school football team😊
These guys are really permanently injuring people for $400.
Shouldn’t “bounty systems” be considered betting? Just asking. Great video. Love it.
No but they should be illegal/banned
I remember watching that Panthers Saints game in 2011. I mainly remember the fight after Roman Harper hit Steve Smith after a touchdown. It’s weird thinking about that now because it was probably part of a bounty on Smith.
Great TD play right there
I was thinking the same thing. It was such a late hit after he'd already scored. I'll never forget Smith taking the hit, getting up to celebrate, and then just absolutely manhandling Malcolm Jenkins.
Harper already discussed with Smith why he hit him on Smith’s podcast: he thought he was going to catch him before the endzone and when he saw he wasn’t at the 5 yd like, he figured he already gave his all to run him down, just as soon finish the play.
I too recall this particular play so many years ago now. I thought it was so unusual at the time but makes perfect sense now.
@@drumsforbumsthank you I was gonna say this too lol but I just remember they were trynna k*** Favre, knowing what he ended up doing I wouldn’t have been mad if they did now 😅
I love what Herm Edwards said about Bountygate. He said he didn't want to injure the other players. He wanted to grind them down until they didn't want to play anymore and that trying to injure someone intentionally was cowardly and a sign of someone who wasn't mentally strong.
That's a great way to put it.
The 49ers weren't having that sht though. Big REVERSE card 😂😂😂😂😂😂
GREAT VID!
Been waiting to watch this as a vikings fan from the A our rival
Crazy how they tried putting bounty on the niners offense but whitner put their running back to sleep 🤣🤣🤣
Whitner put his ass to sleep
Irony is a he'll of a thing
Dirty hit
What Gregg Williams said about Peyton Manning leading up to the Superbowl still gives me goosebumps.
I don’t remember. What was it he said? To me their Super Bowl win is tainted the way they played just to get in it.
Tagliabue & Goodell are spineless cowards.
What'd he say?
@@loganraymond263nothing....
Early watching, looks like Vince in some pics.
Great breakdown! Do Deshawn Watson next!
I'm amazed how long Gregg Williams was able to stick in around in the league after this. The headshots didn't happen after the suspension either.
Winning is more important than any form of public decency. A recent trade proves that...
@@jayrodr897 Well stated.
Hell Belichick and Brady still in the league and they’ve been busted MULTIPLE times cheating lol….
@@philiptucker7590 Fair point
Well tbh he was an incredible D coordinator with some truly revolutionary schemes
Nice video Bro. Keep it up, really dig these types of documentaries.
crazy how vilma (who was involved in one of the darkest scandals in NFL history) is still employed for commentating the league on Fox.
Don’t even let me start on how they still allow Williams to coach…
Love how by equating bounties, you simply look at how good the Defense was 😂🤦♂️
As a niners fan I must say I have a large smile knowing more about this lore, niner gang ended this man's reign.
When Buddy Ryan was the Bears DC his bounties were an open secret. Both the coaches & players had separate bounty pools & rewards. I vividly remember the broadcasters openly discussing the bounties AND the prizes (money/dinners/other) for specific players/positions.
It should be like that every game
Back like 40 years ago
Different era... Timeline matters
Greg Williams was on buddy’s staff.
Kurt and Farve are just phenomenal. They understand they are warriors and want to win
Imagine actually being scared enough of JAY CUTLER to put a bounty on his head.
Tbh he was a talented player, just didn’t care after a certain point
More like he was stuck on da bears
He had his moments, not a lot of them, but like three or four
@@funkmunkle McDaniels coming to Denver trading him to Chicago kinda changed him. The Denver version of him seemed to have unlimited potential. He was a different player inn Chicago. He got hit too much.
@@sheldonpegram8421 I thought cutler was good. When he went to the bears he just looked dead. Reminds me of Romo, where everyone hates on him but was better than average.
Thanks for your hard work making these videos.
Great vid
There’s a line with that sort of stuff. Playing rugby, if our opposition had a real good player who was running rings around us the coach would tell us to drop defensive technique and put a shot on them. You never wanted to injure them; you just wanted to hit them hard enough that they’re on the brakes before they go into contact and thinking twice about running the ball.
Going into games with the aim of hurting your opposition and with bounties on players is taking that idea to a fucked up extreme
Many teams had a bounty like system in those days. The NFL just used the Saints to set the example.
Most teams had a "bounty system" that went like this, you knock someone out of the game you get paid. The Saints actually having team meetings pointing out injuries to marquee players and then telling their players to attack those specific injuries is pretty fucked.
@@iels7346 The Vikings even said they had a bounty gate system idiot
@@iels7346 not to mention saying to kill and rewarding going overboard extra hits and out of bounds knee shots
Darren sharper doing 20 plus years in prison
@James Roberts what does the crap he did off the field have to do with this though?
Considering what happened in the Bills game, it makes me sick that players would try to intentionally injure, cripple and end another players career. I get sick everytime I see Greg Williams coaching on the sideline. What would happen of a player took him out on the sideline be abuse somebody took a bounty out on him, you wonder
There was no covid jab back then. Damar wouldn't have collapsed in those days
@@greatskygeckos Someone clearly was dropped on their head lmfao.
@@zcraw4874 more than once.
@@zcraw4874apparently you. Look into heart problems with athletes induced by the covid shot it’s not a conspiracy. It’s a high fucking percentage.
@@greatskygeckos Facts. People really like to ignore how many people are just dropping from random heart problems AFTER taking the jab. Older people have it way worse, but pro players and regular people alike are facing similar numbers in terms of reported incidents.
If I’m a player in that meeting I’m getting in trouble cause I’d crack up when he starts talking like that 😂
And not a single person hates on sean Payton for this! Dude knew everything about this and should have been judged his entire life! People praise Sean Payton to this day and it blows my mind.
I know, it's crazy
He's getting payback this year. 70-20. Lol!
the saints were one of the least penalized teams that year for personal fouls.
Cus all the hits in this are legal lol
@@austi16 naw going full force into someone’s head and knees to take them out is still wrong refs don’t have a rep of being good at there job
@@ChnChn-in5kf it’s not illegal to shoot at someone’s legs and they aren’t head to head hits it’s dirty to go for the knees sometimes but the goal is to smash then with your shoulder
@@ChnChn-in5kf rules were different back then you remember the madden hit sticks. The game is soft now
@@ChnChn-in5kf this was 2009, football was still football. You were able to hit heads. Being a head hunter was a style of play that people liked back then. Including me.
The 2018 NFC Championship game is my go to source for comedy especially at the end. 😂
😂🤣🤣
Keep laughing bitch
Us Chiefs fans and those poor Saints fans can attest to the heartbreak that happened between those 2 games, one haunted a franchise more so tho lmao, cuz we won the whole damn thing the very next year
Go rams
Y'all are hating on saints during that NFC Title game. It was OBVIOUSlY pass interference and Helmet to Helmet Contact on the play. That would made the Rams loose it's final Timeout and would have put the Saints on the 5 yardline Knowing Sean Payton he would run the ball and bleed that clock out until it reaches to 0:01.And Kick the Saints to the Super Bowl. Yes I'm a died hard Saints fan🟨⬛.I barely remember this so called "BountyGate" now of days the NFL is turning into a Defensive game. Look at 2021 season.Look at all the injuries and most of the injuries was big names.injuries are part of the game of sports. imagine y'all teams was the best of the league and went undefeated and made it to the title game and your team didn't made a single mistake and a team changing play happens and the Refs didn't call it. How would make you feel?????? Pissed off right!!!! So does the Saints have the right to be Pissed 💯 hell yes.