SHOGUN Ending Explained | Episode 10 Breakdown, The Real Story Behind It & Season 1 Review
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- SHOGUN Ending Explained | Episode 10 Breakdown, The Real Story Behind It & Season 1 Review. In this video. we break down Shogun, going over the first season and explaining that ending and what it can mean going forward with a potential season 2. We also take a look back at the true story that this show is loosely based on and the book that adapted the story. It delves into the religion and history of the Spanish and Portuguese and teh ownership over Japan. Lots to get through so lets dive right into it, arm those cannons and lets go, booom!
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What’s poppin’, Barbarians? It’s me MT and welcome back to the Heavy Spoilers show! Heavy Spoilers coming up for the Shogun series from FX because we’re about to get into it! So grab your favorite katana or blunderbuss and let’s cover this conflict!
After an insanely stressful season of playing politics and slaying assassins, the final episode of the Shogun series of course ends with Yoshii Taranga on top…thanks to the brave and noble sacrifice of Mariko at the end of Episode 9. As much as many people wanted Mariko to walk away from that explosion unscathed, she took the full force of that impact…leaving John Blackthorn to grieve the loss of the only woman that he loved…well…the second woman that he loved. Dude has a whole wife and family back over in England that he totally ditched in favor of sailing the high seas…but luckily for John, the concept of paying child support wasn’t invented yet so you could just do shit like that. But anyways, as the true operative behind Yoshii Taranaga’s “Crimson Sky” offensive to take the capital, Mariko’s true role as a hostage inside of Osaka Castle was to do what Toranaga never could…change the heart of Lady Ochiba, Mariko’s childhood friend and POLITICAL ROLE HERE. Through Mariko’s sacrifice, Ochiba’s extremely hardened heart towards Toranaga would soften just enough for her to shift her influence from Ishido’s army to Toranga’s army…thus causing all of the other houses that were following Ishido to be forced to ally themselves under the banner of The Heir.
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Show ran out of money. That's the only reason we get a badly written finale 😂
@@joeblow5658 I thought I was the only one who was not impressed by the last episode...
@chocomel1974 No , my friend, you are definitely not alone in this thought
@@joeblow5658 Badly written... yeah your name makes perfect sense, joe blow. Tells me exactly what kind of writing you prefer.
Imagine you only watched the final episode, would you be hooked?
Absolutely not
(Loved this show, hated the ending episodes.)
I love that Toranaga just openly admits he just genuinely likes hanging out with Blackthorne and that’s why he keeps him around. Dudes just doesn’t want his homie to leave😭
He got saved by Blackthorne at least twice or something, but bro didn't acknowledge it in the finale.
He gave him great promotions @@kylemelon6093
"He makes me laugh". Love this story
@@kylemelon6093 fr he saved him after the earthquake and helped him escape the blockade
Bromance.
Can't deny Yabushige's actor performed masterfully and it was absolutely worthy of an Emmy award and Fuji’s comment on Blackthorn being the last hands to hold Mariko was a call back to episode 1, when Fuji’s son was to be killed for her husbands disrespect. When Fuji’s son was to be taken away, Mariko intervened and told them “Let her hands be the last to hold her son.”
this is why I read the comments! what a gem
😢
@@Tronchitina It was mentioned in the video...
Yabushige played his role perfectly. It was comedic and just the right amount of personal interest. There are many things to love about how he played the character.
@@cam1934 agreed I hope he win alot award cause he deserver it
Jesus seeing these comments complain about no battles is just showing media illiterate these days, reminds me of Toranaga criticized his son craving for war
It's so depressing. They wanted Avengers Endgame.
@@boxtears they just cannot appreciate the meaning of subtlety
this is the very substance Toranaga told
Yeah, let's spend the whole series dedicated to building up to a final battle.Yet.Never have a final battle.What a masterful way to write a story😂.. go dye your hair
@@joeblow5658 the victory of the final battle is already dictated before it begins bruh
I still have not seen anyone comment on this aspect so I will do it here:
The line Toranaga delivers when he frees the falcon revealed something to me--"may you have many daughters". When Toranaga lost his son, he was quick to consider that he has another son. When Toranga allows Hiromatsu to commit seppuku, again he moves on rather cavalierly.
The deaths and lives he gives great importance to are the female ones.
Toranaga forbids Fuji from joining her husband and son in death. She goes on to serve as Anjin's consort serving the valuable role of elevating Anjin's standing with Toranaga.
Mariko, too, is vital to elevate Anjin's importance. Serving as a translator, she makes it seem that what Anjin has to say is of great value to Toranaga. This puts the Portuguese on the defensive. She is also useful because of her connection with the Portuguese priest, Father Alvito, who is no doubt an information pipeline to the Portuguese trader-merchants. This elevated role of Mariko sets up her mission as Crimson Sky.
Lady Ochiba No Kata too is of vital importance; she is mother to the crown heir. Thru her alone does any successor ruler have legitimacy.
In the end, Toranaga employs Mariko who has craved a noble death to follow that of her father's wrongful execution as a traitor for killing a brutal and ruthless leader Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa. This of course paved the way for Taiko's rule,from which Lady Ochiba gains her prestige and power as mother to Taiko's heir. Thus, while Taiko, Lady Ochiba and the rest of the regents that followed had noble titles and standing, Mariko's family was executed as treasonous and she herself was sold as chattel, giving her only value as Toda Buntaro's husband.
Enter Toranaga who knew of Mariko's long standing desire to wash the disgrace from her family's name, and to die an honorable death fighting those who lived lavishly while her family was forced to bear the humiliation. Toranaga gave agency to Mariko, allowing her to become Crimson Sky thereby undoing the alliance of the nobles under Ishido. She exposed Ishido as a petty man and a coward for employing assassins and holding women and children hostage to garner compliance of the other regents. Lady Ochiba only aligned with Ishido to obtain protection for her heir son, which Ishido provided so long as Lady Ochiba No Kata committed the Taiko's army to him. Mariko's death, and her poem about a leafless branch and her remark about flower becoming a flower only when it falls, and Lady Ochiba No Kata --which means the lady who lives in the Room of the Fallen Leaves--resonated deeply with Lady Ochiba No Kata. She realized that Ishido does not value her or her heir son, and a man who is willing to send assassins will do anything to claim power. Lady Ochiba was struck by Mariko's loyalty to Toranaga, she also realized that Ishido's grip over the Council members was slipping rapidly. She sought Toranaga's protection for herself and her son, believing him to be more honorable that Ishido, as indicated by Mariko's loyalty to him. Her aligning with Toranaga was a fait accompli regarding the coming battle and the Council of Regents.
Thus, in this story, female power was far more important than any male power. Many times, males are discarded like refuse, but the female lives and deaths are of utmost importance and value. This is why Toranga blesses the Falcon to have many daughters.
Great post. Mariko was the "flower" so I wonder if the explosion that killed her was the "wind." This might explain why she wasn't blown to pieces. A freshly fallen flower is still beautiful before it decays.
Way to break that down. Gave me a deeper understanding to like the show even more. Amazing!
Wonderful comment!!
This is not a contest but if it were-you win! Great analysis!
It also subsequently emphasizes how important it was when he stops Anjin from killing himself.
Yeah, when I saw Blackthorne looking at Toranaga in that last scene, I didn't need a translation to know that Blackthorne just accepted his fate and stayed in Japan for the unforeseeable future. Toranaga clearly wanted a BFF and went to extremes to keep Blackthorne nearby while Toranaga climbed his way to the top of the Shōgun... Crazy.
He wasnt interested in blackthorne because of friendship how everyone thinks. He wanted his knowledge of outside japan and his boat skills
Blackthorne will be Toranaga's ears and eyes outside Japan.
That look wasn't just him accepting his fate, but realizing the truth of Toranaga's hand in all of it.... including the destruction of his ship.
A dream of a dream. Blackthorne never reached 'home' never died an old man in Tudor digs with grandchildren, with pale blue eyes. He was holding Mariko's crucifix. That was 'buried' at sea with Fuji's husband and son.
I hate it when Hollyweird tastes poetic license and shoves their 2 cents worth into a great film. You're right. Blackthorne NEVER left Japan again.
Yabushige giving his last last last will made me laugh so much , such a complex and unintentionallly funny character
If this show does not Scoup up all the Emmy's Next Year, It will be a Disgusting shame.
An Emmy for what, killing his friends? The second half of the show is just waiting doing nothing, and nothing happened in the finale either, other than decapitating his best friend.
@@dunkenrunten4593 You have Proven you have Never Read a Book in your Life, Unless it has Pictures in it. You have No Understanding of what a Real Story is unless it gives you Gratification every 30 secs. More Proof America is the 5th worse Educated Society in the World and has an Attention span of a goldfish. Look it up if you know How....
But here’s the thing…THEY WERE STEERING THE SHOW TOWARDS THE MAJOR BATTLE SHOWDOWN…the literal credits in the opening of the show have arrows on fire hitting a castle…the whole show was built around Toranaga and the other dudes in an epic showdown…every episode was forecasting an epic battle, the final showdown…but only to leave you with nothing and subverted expectations…aka falling well short to hit the mark, and never delivering…yea he sent a woman to do an army’s job…then make the show about that…that’s supposed to be the main point and they gloss right over that LOL…every episode felt like the crimson red…is this the one?? The battle? Aww man it’s not? Maybe next week??? And the process repeats for every episode…Don’t have the main picture of the show a bloody samurai on a horse and then never deliver…have a chick reading a poem in a field full of daises as the opening credits or main picture of the show…this series was Anti-Climatic…that’s a shame, this could of been such a great series…
it deffo deserves awards, though Fallout also ended up being amazing, and lets see what else comes along. Im fully with you on your point though, this show was a super high quality breath of fresh air and it was an absolute joy to watch.
for the sake of us viewers, lets hope HoTD and other shows are able to give competition.. and we dont end up with complete flunks like Halo or Wheel of Time where the creators couldnt give 2 shits about the audience
Emmy for worst show 😂
actually the historic john blackthorn, William Adams sent money to his family in england for the rest of his life, and when he died he split his estate between his english and Japanese families. So yes he did pay his child support.
Read Shogun back in the 70"s and loved it. Recently married, when I heard the 1980's TV miniseries of Shogun was going to be aired, my wife and I went out and bought, on credit, our first tiny portable color TV in order to see it in color. It was worth it! Now I own a huge color TV and am so glad to have lived long enough to see this remake of Shogun. I think that over time both versions will be honored as great cinematographic achievements, classics to be treasured.
Incredible show, a forever favorite. Toronaga admitting he just enjoys Blackthornes company, having him around. Just a good moment
He burned his ship and admitted he will burn his second ship once he's rebuilt it, that's a "good moment" for you? This guy is a psychopath. He had all of his friends murdered and decapitated his only remaining friend. There are zero good moments in the second half of this show and nothing happened in the finale other than Toranaga admitting he will psychologically torture Anjin forever.
Very true. Toranaga is exposed as basically being pure evil after his son dies. Goes to show how effective his manipulation is presented and how easily people are swayed by charisma.
Same with Ragnar Lothbrok and that english priest in Vikings.
man, toranaga killed villagers just to test a foreigner. what a madman.
he's a psychopath and needs to be taken out asap.
Not a madman, he was also just looking for the reason to eliminate miscreants from their society.
This was comman practice in fudel systems..just look for a reason to neutralize/clean up society from eye soars which otherwise would be difficult.
Bruh, samurai warriors used to decapitate peasants just to see if their katanas were sharp.
@@stannyb3346 I don't know what the word "bruh" means, but if what you said is true then the atom bombs were 100% justified
@@dunkenrunten4593 bruh means bro, bruh.
I love your insights. ❤ but Fuji wasn't becoming a catholic nun. She was becoming a Buddhist nun which were common in Japan. And what's more
I have read the book and saw the original 1980 miniseries. Although Fuji ( Fujiko in the book) died in the novel. She never died in the 1980 miniseries nor she became a nun. I think she changed her mind and later became Anjin-san's wife. She was becoming a Nun more so for her husband and son. Not just for Mariko-san. However Blackthorne didn't want her to leave him. So I think he wanted to show her a sailor's funeral. In which is believed by sailors that a person's soul and spirit will be around forever. By showing her this and together they buried her family and Mariko-san. She later decided to stay as his consort and perhaps later his wife. Because of this act. They moved on and became a couple. As for Toda Buntaro, he lost not only his wife but his father. So besides his son. He acknowledges Blackthorne as family. Great review. ❤.
It’s also possible that Fuji’s fate (offscreen) is the same as in the book, and becoming a nun is the cover story that will help ensure Blackthorne and others don’t know what she has planned. The looks she gives during her last scenes with Blackthorne could be interpreted as hinting toward joining the family she loved and tragically lost sooner vs. later. I love what season 10 revealed as well as what it leaves open to supposition!
The actor who played blackthorn, man the face expressions he makes, once he knew that Mariko is no longer by heside man, just makes a man tear up
I love that they didn’t “fridge” Mariko. Her death had greater purpose than just guys getting revenge. We didn’t need a massive war. The show was always about politics and people playing chess.
But there was a massive war tho, battle of sekighahara
But here’s the thing…THEY WERE STEERING THE SHOW TOWARDS THE MAJOR BATTLE SHOWDOWN…the literal credits in the opening of the show have arrows on fire hitting a castle…the whole show was built around Toranaga and the other dudes in an epic showdown…every episode was forecasting an epic battle, the final showdown…but only to leave you with nothing and subverted expectations…aka falling well short to hit the mark, and never delivering…yea he sent a woman to do an army’s job…then make the show about that…that’s supposed to be the main point and they gloss right over that LOL…every episode felt like the crimson red…is this the one?? The battle? Aww man it’s not? Maybe next week??? And the process repeats for every episode…Don’t have the main picture of the show a bloody samurai on a horse and then never deliver…have a chick reading a poem in a field full of daises as the opening credits or main picture of the show…this series was Anti-Climatic…that’s a shame, this could of been such a great series…
The main character Anjin was too weak, and the fights scenes were so good and they didn’t capatlize on it!!!!
The channel itself is FX…the channel of literal action movies…this show should of been on the women’s channel…
@@AirborneAnt you weren’t paying attention.
@@davediaz1742 I paid attention…every week…this show should not of been on FX…it should of been on the Women’s Entertainment network
@@AirborneAnt Not true, early on the point was made that Torunaga was not going to win, unless he defeated his enemy with strategy and guile. The entire show we are challenged to imagine how Torunaga is going to defeat his enemy, who outnumbers him 5 to 1. He says multiple times that Crimson Sky.. the name of the war plan for a direct assault on Osaka Castle is not a viable plan. The entire time, his samurai are playing along with the deception, but none can guess his plan. Ultimately his oldest and mostly loyal general sacrifices himself, simply to lull his enemy into thinking he has lost. Then Mariko is sent to the court, and places the enemy into a dilemma.. loosen your grip on the council, by freeing the hostages, or kill the childhood friend of lady Ochiba, your strongest ally. In the end, Mariko forces him to do both! Instantly winning the war before it's even started. At first, all these strange Japanese protocols seem weird and foreign, however by the end of the story.. we understand that this is a civilized society that understands deeply the connections between politics and war, and the protocols are carefully designed signals sent between rivals to reduce war and killing. The ultimate signal being the sacrifice of ones own life. If you study war at any serious level.. this is a masterpiece!
Bro I was about to shed a tear at that last shot of Toranaga looking at the ocean. Then the “Shogun” title screen appeared and I fr cried
In short, Toronaga made it so his future battle was already victorious before it was even won. Ideally I also would’ve wanted to see something happen with the Erasmus though.
Sun Tzu style.
Well we haven't seen the battle yet and anything can happen, so no, it's not victorious yet, and the future battle scene was only a flashforward in his head. We're gonna have to wait for Season 2 to be sure. All that happened this season is this master strategist Toranaga killing all of his friends and even touching a hair on his enemies. Yeah, he's a complete nutcase and if you think he's "victorious" you need to seek psychiatric help.
@@dunkenrunten4593 There won't be a season 2
@@Mulgerehircum gotcha, so this show is merely about a psychopath killer murdering his own people thinking this will make him the ruler of Japan. Got it.
@@dunkenrunten4593 the whole show obviously went right over your head. there won't be a season 2, the rest is up to interpretation and your imagination. so yea he won since he can now be shogun and lead japan into peace
Apparently it wasn’t modern Japanese spoken but the traditional Japanese spoken at the time the show was set. Kind of like Shakespeare. The official podcast is so interesting and enhances each watch of the show. I recommend it, MT and Paul. This is a great show to watch. A lot of depth throughout the show; and I gotta say that I think Toranaga is actually a complex villain; sort of like Magneto with Xavier’s tendency towards peace. Certainly no clean cut hero. Thanks for the breakdown👍✌️
My favourite part is when Toranaga went “it’s shogunning time!” and Shogun’d over everyone
Seeing people lusting for battle footage in the comments kind of bums me out. This show was clearly about the characters and telling a story. There are plenty of other things you can go watch if you need to get your slicing and dicing fix.
The show built up there would be an AMAZING battle and didn't deliver it..
I loved the show, but I was built up for a canon performance and battle like history said it was. Nothing. Where was the climax, it never climaxed?
Every episode 9.5. Overall a 7 because how it left me kinda disappointed..
Even 10 mins of action, in the finale isn't too much to ask...
And its not because I only respect action, the story and writing was AWESOME.
But it needed the final battle, and they didn't do it and it felt like a underwhelming finish.
I just didn't feel any sense of closure, what can I do about that. Throughout the whole series each episode hype us more and more and more to hit us with a "I already won, roll credit". Bro even the fucking opening credit shows an epic battle. Talk about blue balling us
Blue balls is exactly what it was.... Amazing series, Denied you a memorable climax.
Was good ending, it deserved a cheering ovation ending.
no it wasn't
the trailers promised this big epic show & the 1st couple of episodes were building to that and that what most audiences came to see
if people knew it wasn't just going to be politics and romance 80% wouldn't have bothered watching it 🤷♂️
One thing that you forgot or simply didnt know is that Adams was not the only guy taken to Tokugawa, the 2nd mate of De Liefde Jan Joosten van Lodensteyn was also taken to Tokugawa and was made a samurai alongside Adams and also held a fief where modern day Tokyo station is located.
Jan Joosten van Lodensteyn was instrumental in setting up trade relations for the Japanese and Lodensteyn was made the main advisor on trade and foreign relations, it is also more likely tat Lodensteyn was the one training the Japanese on how to use the cannons from the ship since it was a Dutch ship thus Dutch cannons.
I took that they blended both characters into Blackthorne
@@franug its largely based upon Adams since Adams wrote a book on his experiences.
van Lodensteyn was far more important to Tokugawa which was shown in Lodensteyn being given a larger more lavish estate in Edo(modern day tokyo) and unlike Adams van Lodensteyn never got permission to leave Japan since he was instrumental in the trade relations for Japan.
All I have to say is that I was crying when Toranaga stopped the Anjin from killing himself.. How quickly he got over there and popped him like Bruce Lee had me 💀🤣
He needs Anjin, who else is he gonna psychologically torture for the rest of his life? He admitted he will burn down his ship every time he rebuilds it. He needs him to satisfy his psychopathic tendencies.
As a frequent anime watcher I felt right at home with the japanese with English subs, it really made you feel like you were in their world not to mention the core dynamic between Mariko toranaga and John and how Mariko translates ones words to best suit the other's ears.
What makes Toronaga so special is the fact that he never underestimates Blackthorne. Virtually everyone calls him and rejects him as a barbarian in the show including Mariko. As the show progresses you can see how Balckthorne changes their mind by assimilating to their culture. The main takeaway for me is to never underestimate anyone and to keep an open mind when dealing with foreigners.
Thank you. Great explanation. Caught some things I certainly missed! I appreciate those little bits.
Fuji was going to be a nun, not necessarily a catholic nun. Buddhist nuns exist as well...
Nope there isn’t such thing as a Buddhist nun it’s called a monk
@@dominusdone5023 no its not monk😅
@@domokun6157 yes it is lmfao I actually follow the religion I know how it works they aren’t nuns
She was 3x times hotter than Mariko.
@@dominusdone5023are you sure you follow Buddhism? Because there certainly are “nuns” in Buddhism. A “nun” is what you may call a ‘female monk’ in English.
They are called bikuni/ama in Japan.
One of the BEST shows i have watched in a very long time. Superb!!
Really enjoy when you host videos MT!
MT! I was wondering where you went my brotha. Keep doing your thing! I always enjoyed your funny moments on New Rockstars
Sick breakdown! I agree, there needs to be more shows that stick to this level of authenticity! Thanks MT for another banger!
Love MT's creative and colourful names for Yabu. 😂
Dude, this is a great recap. Great job.
Very well done thank you mt
My only complaint with this version of Shogun was the change in Blackthorne. I don’t see any reason why they had to make him so venal. It didn’t show the allegiance he maintained to Toranaga and it didn’t go deep enough for the deep love he shared with Mariko enough.
Man this show was amazing and I hope we get a follow up series or something
Toranaga was an asshole after all…. Sacrificed everyone that followed him for who knows what reason and they died for him, even his son just for him to say something along the lines of “good thing i have more sons”. So much shit for him to just be as power hungry as ichido. Poor Mariko
This is the point, he really is just like everyone else and uses his people as pawns. Actually, he is more power hungry than Ishido. He really wanted to become Shogun all along, you can see him smile at Yabushige at the end when he flat out asks. And in history, after he wins the battle of Sekigahara, he laid siege to Osaka and killed lady Ochiba and her son to be sole ruler of Japan.
@@marsryo6569 so Toranaga is the villian and Ishido is good guy
@@shreyas-mq4ydwell Toranaga united Japan so depends how you look at it
@@shreyas-mq4yd They're just both not good guys in the traditional sense. They have their reasons. However, the historical Ishido was more of a loyalist to the Taiko's heir. So you could see that Toranaga was the villain all along. However, he did take the lords and their families hostage, so his true intentions are unknown. But Sekigahara was won very narrowly by the historical Toranaga. The casualties on both sides with immense. He won not because the heir's army did not show up, but some of the lords betrayed Ishido during the battle.
No one will know what could have happened in Ishido won. He could have very well united Japan and become Shogun himself, or leave it to the heir.
Japan at the time was still not a unified country, and there were wars all the time... which caused great suffering and death. Toranaga and his samurai would understand that ultimate victory in war would mean lasting peace.. and sacrificing themselves in political intrigue, was MORE valuable than dying in battle. This is why all of Mariko's samurai give their lives without hesitation in a suicide attack on the gates of Osaka castle. They understand the strategic genius of this action. This is why Mariko stands in front of the cannon. There is even a part of the the scene where you can see she has a realization... this is her opportunity to win the war! She orders Blackthorne to stand aside.. and makes a speech, before the cannon fires. Show knows the political consequences of her sacrifice will break the enemies alliance, restoring the Shogun, and bringing lasting peace to Japan.
Such an incredible show. I've always been fascinated by Japanese history and culture, and this show got me reading all about William Adams' amazing story. Whilst I was expecting a big battle before the episode, in hindsight I'm so glad they didn't. The way they ended the show felt exactly right. Done with real elegance
M.T.!!!! THANK YOU!!!! In fact, this got more than my thanks; it got my social media forward!!! 'Nuff said!!!
"What's popping Barbarians?" has to be the best open to any of these videos on Heavy Spoilers going back to the days Paul went by Deffinition (sorry Paul)
It was never about the battle. Although I didn't notice that Mariko's sacrifice was this pivotal... I mean, I thought there was more about relationship between Lady Ochiba and Toranaga, but this didn't matter. Much like Blackthorn himself. This show was made unlike in the Hollywood.
“Never about the battle” yet it was literally hyped up for the last 10 episodes of an impending battle and it was literally marketed up by trailers that a battle was to come.
How can you say it with a straight face that this was never about the battle? 😂
It’s like saying Star Wars was never about the wars. Shogun was built on a feudal war between lords, teasing up a battle for the last 10 episodes and leaving it with a stinker ending isn’t good climatic writing…
Delusional excuses. This is about the formation of the edo period. It's only about the battle.
@@TheGodvszombies It was working up to Crimson Sky. And when you found out Crimson Sky wasn't what you thought it was, you got jobbed just like Ishido. You would've been the poor sap Toranaga ran circles around.
@@boxtears tell me you don't know what the battle of sekigahara is without saying so.
@@ericciaramella1984 let's focus just on the serie. We have historical political drama but with Japan/Nihon accent and lore. Maybe this would sound stupid, but compare two adaptations of Shaman King. The final in the first one was epic climactic duel between Kaiju spirits. The second one was faithful to the source material, and Moreover the epic stuff was reduced anyway and the villain has won. But this was not the ending. It was normal. Such as this ending in Shogun. It has some logic. It's my theory but I think is that how real, generic Nihon drama looks like. Just to be clear, I am no Japan geek. I like watching movies
3:01 "That two timing Yabupiece of Yabushit.. Yabushigue"lol great artistry MT 🐐
Gotta love MT’s breakdowns, you can always tell when he be lovin’ his work and the content.
I like “the real shogun was the friends we made a long the way” vibe of an ending
Regarding the crucifix: In the last scene, Toronaga is holding a crucifix in his left hand. That could be the one the old Blackthorn is holding.
Great review MT
ayyyyy another MT video!!
Toranaga mastered the art of war. He appeared weak and feeble and feigned compliance, when he was ready for war and itching to fight. He prepared for the fight in such a manner that the war was already won before he ever drew a blade. He manoeuvred scorned nobles in such a manner that made their vengeance equal decisive blows that sowed division amongst his enemies. He played disloyal vassals so they thought they were playing him, but he was in control the entire time. He deliberately antagonised his son by revoking titles a duties in order to spurn on compulsive behaviour. This WAS deliberate. He confirmed as much we he thanked his dead son for buying him time. Despite the loses, everything was moved by the hand of Toranaga. Even down to his continued outright denial of wanting to be shogun, like his ancestors. Every move he made was to pacify his enemies into believe he was less of a threat than he actually was. Appear as if you are weak when you are strong. Acting sick. Arguing with his council. Watching his friend kill himself in protest. Hiding away from the public eye. Everything was done to portray a weak and feeble man who had given up and accepted defeat. Until Mariko exposed Ishida for what he was. A weak coward who used women and child as hostages to threaten the rest of the regents into compliance. Once that was done and the heirs mother sent word to Toranga, the act was no longer required. The war could be fought in earnest because he had already won. All the chips had already squarely fallen on his side of the table and his hand was matching set royal flush. the title of shogun was basically already his at this point...
Masterful display...
Thanks dude
When Yabushige wanted to ask Anjin to perform the final beheading (kaisyaku), Toranaga said, ``No.'' This also gave me a sense of Toranaga's consideration for Yabushige himself and the Kashiki family. When Yabushige said, ``Then, I would like Toranaga-sama to do it for me,'' Toranaga immediately agreed. This is also Toranaga's feelings for Yabushige.
In those days, it would not have been honorable to have kaisyaku be a foreigner from an unknown country.
However, despite such betrayal, Toranaga kaisyakud Yabushige with his own hands. Normally, a person of that rank would not kaisyaku his subordinates. It was an honor for Yabushige. The Kashiki family will be able to pass on their achievements to their descendants to the extent that they were able to receive kaisyaku from Toranaga. Yabushige seems to have had a slightly distorted desire to be thrown away like garbage and fed to dogs...
Dude this show is the epitome of what a show should be and how it should be executed….no seppuku pun intended. You don’t need epic cgi battles to make a compelling story. Yabushige was my favorite character in all honesty but the level of depth with every character was so well done. Better then the 80’s original but no disrespect to those actors from that time. But this really opened my eyes on how to make a perfect series.
Well explained ❤
A whole history lesson here 10/10 great job!
Toranaga the goat thanks for the info and video. Much needed after last episode
Bro this was so great
ShoGun is one of the most engrossing, courageous, most beautifully produced shows, ever. I'm looking forward to another great experience with season two.
It's a miniseries, there's not a season 2
@@hahaimout1693 So popular, there must be talks afoot... a followup maybe a different timeline. We'll see.
Yabushige...... amazing performance
The show was great! I enjoyed it so much although it did confuse me in parts. With the finale, I knew I was gonna need an explanation 😅 video did an awesome job 😁👍🏼 thanks
Very relatable to chess: toranaga has sacrificed his rook (toda) and his queen (mariko ) to check mate his opponent… absolutely brilliant.
Toranaga the master strategist, not grazing a hair on his enemies' heads, killing only his friends and family, decapitating his only remaining friend. I'd say Toranaga is a paid spy. With a leader like that you don't need enemies XDDD
so which side Yabushige on? i kind of confuse..
No the situation with Blackthorne's ship is a deal made that he doesnt leave to get back and snitch on Portuguese's plan for the Japans.
Blackthorn saves Toronaga’s life multiple times and just wants his ship back in return to go home. Nope, Toronaga blows his ship up and makes him his slave bc he’s too helpful to let him leave. A classic nice guys finish last tale. At least he’s funny.
I watched all of season 1 on Hulu.
Does this YT video cover past that ? Im a little confused
Where can i find more shogun
That's it. There is no more. It's a mini series.
@adamdavidsoddities8573 I watched all there was to watch on Hulu and I do not recall this older Anjin scene at all.....
When was it. Did I miss something
No battle needed this series must be watched as a whole to love it
As far as ending gose I don't know what's worse shogun or the Sopranos
Clearly this one. First half of the show was amzaing. Last 5 episodes literally nothing happened. 5 hours of filler and nothingness and Toranaga murdering NOT his enemies, but killing his own people and friends. XD
I found this episode moving and powerful. The ending hits similar notes to the book. But I can still see how some viewers who revved up for a climatic battle are disappointed.
Toranaga is not a Master's mind, he just doesn't care for anyone rather himself. Even is own son! Very easy to have sucess like this when you are a dictator with followers who blindly follow your orders.
you do a war for the planet of the ape's breakdown video someday right.
I remember the 80's series and have read Clavel's Novel. Rewatched the 80's version at the beginning of this series. Although many differences both can stand on their own merits.
As far as the end end result Toranaga sacrificed a few loyal subjects in order to achieve a lasting piece and avoid a much larger bloodshed, well played!
i'm a simple man. I see MT, I drop a like. This dude is one of the GOATs
This was a damn good series. I felt every episode. Almost cried and lady marko (sc) died. She seemed so unafraid of death. 10/10
Loved this show . Just confused when Blackthorne said to Toranaga “ ever since I landed on this shore I’ve been using you and feeding you shit “ Or did he just want to die so just rambled on ?
Good point. It confused me at first. But I think he just wanted to die.
He wanted to expose himself as a traitor but he didn't realize that Toranaga already knew and had played everyone.
The timing is insane
Not really, episodes been out around 11 hours, usually the timing is insane for these uploads but not this time lol
Just meant for me, dropped as soon as I finished the ep
I can say this show has helped me with my Japanese 😂
Spectacular mini series of the lead up to the battle of Sekigahara. Knowing that Tokugawa Ieyasu even though being out numbered 120,000 to his 75000 he won and became Shogun.
I loved every scene Yabushibo was in.
This show needed 20 episodes not 10
I thought kashigi. Was experiencing PTSD/ shellshock from the blast. A traumatic beain injury makes more sense to me then guilt I guess.
Hell ya, glad to see MT breaking down the ending of this show, I'm here for it.
Nice history lesson
My favourite MT breaking down the finale of one of the best tv series. A good day it is
In the book, I don’t think Blackthorne left Japan. The book said it was his “fate” to stay in Japan. Please let me know if this is right. If it is, it leaves one to wonder if that house is in Japan.
Fuji was going to become a Buddhist nun, not a Catholic nun. Buddhist nuns also live in what is referred to in English as "convent". There has been no indication that Fuji practiced Christianity in the series, so we should only assume Fuji became a nun in the Buddhist tradition.
This was such a amazing series!
"Yabadabadooshige-sh*t" sent me 😅
Fantastic show, hoping for a season 2
Amazing show I loved it
Preach MT
3:43 Yooo MT KEEP KILLING IT
Bless
It has been years since I read the book, but I still remember parts that were different from this mini-series. The 1980 production was more faithful to the book but still missed a couple of things. As Blackthorne's position increased to Hatamoto, he and Omi became friends. After the earthquake, Omi and Blackthorne dug up and found Toronaga's mangled sword which he then discarded. Also, Toronaga awarded that prostitute/courtesan that Blackthorne slept with, whom Omi was in love with, to Blackthorne. Blackthorne gave the contract to Omi. The Lady of the Willow world got to build her brothels. Toronaga made sure Blackthorne never left Japan as he was amongst the very few people loyal to him whom Toronaga could trust. It was Toronaga who destroyed his ship to keep Blackthorne from going after the Black Ship. Lastly, Toronaga, in real history threw out the Catholic church from all of Japan a few years after the Battle of Sekigahara. Blackthorne suffered from temporary blindness after the explosion. Yabu also enjoyed boiling that dutch kid in boiling water. Yabu was treacherous and ambitious from day one. He wanted the Erasmus for himself and to have Blackthorne train a Japanese crew and serve him. With that ship, he could command a lot of power in Japan. Toranaga knew of Yabu's treachery and inclination to be a traitor when they witness the sunrise together. During that meeting, they made a pact that Yabu then broke. Yabu had a samurai's execution seppelku with witnesses, ritual, etc. The book explained WHY Toronaga liked and respected Blackthorne from the very beginning. The book explains that in their first meeting, Toronaga questioned Blackthorne about his intentions trying to get a good measure of his character. Toronaga asked Blackthorne under what mitigating circumstances was it ever honorable to be a pirate and steal from foreigners. Blackthorne mentioned that he could get away with being a pirate in a respectable manor "If you win." That key response is what drew Blackthorne to Toronaga's favor. "If you win." The victor makes the rules. The victor writes the history books. Toronaga knew Blackthorne was a man after his own heart. The current series was excellent as was the 1980 version. Both are worthy of owning in a dvd collection and should be seen as two entirely different stories. The 1980 version had a lot more romance and no soft porn as this one did. The book of course was able to explain what everyone was thinking. Had the 1980 version had English subtitles, viewers would've understood the story much better. But it was the producers decision to not do that to give the viewer the same language barrier that Blackthorne had. One final thought; Sanada is an excellent actor and probably the best in Japan today. The 1980 version had Toshiro Mifune who was considered the "Lawrence Olivier or Marlon Brando" of Japanese film. Both were excellent, but Mifune's acting was as powerful to watch as Marlon Brando. Cosmo Jarvis did a good job as Blackthorne. But Richard Chamberlain could act circles around Cosmo. Chamberlain was in an entirely different class with many great films to his credit: the Thornebirds, The Bourne Identity, Count of Monte Cristo, 3, 4 Musketeers, too many to list.
Yay mt he makes me laugh out loud 🤣 😆 😂 😄 😅 😭 🤣 😂😂😂😂😂
This ending was hilarious to me, just learning how torinaga was played it was insane I loved it it was insane 😂
William Adams (Blackthorne) actually had a permission to leave Japan but he chose not to likely because if He go back to England that higher ups would only see him as mere Pilot unlike in Japan that he was basically a Lord, a minor Lord but nevertheless still a Lord, a powerful individual that had huge land and favored by Tokugawa himself. I mean, If I was in Adams' shoes I'd also stay in Japan considering how complicated things are between England and Spain. I'd just bask in my wealth and fame rather than be commanded to risk my life in the seas.
one thing i did wonder, the guys that set the bomb to get in that door.... where did they just run off to after they set up the bomb? wasnt the whole point of the bomb so they could get inside the door to get them?
NGL, I have made a few theories for where this show might go to for a possible S2, with Toronaga asking John to build him a fleet, he may also wage war or a campaign against the Spanish bases that John mentioned earlier in the show that were occupied and guarded by Ronin, so we may see some action with how Toronaga may deal with those as well as how the Spanish/Catholic Priests might fare now with Toronaga giving them land in Edo to build a church, albeit next to a Consort/Brothel which would lead to some interesting interactions to say the least, not to mention that Ishido may have some ruse or involvement that might throw Toronaga's prediction of him not having a banner or the Heir's forces with him that one month from when the Finale ended/took place, who knows, maybe Toronaga's fleet that he made John make for will be ready and we see an all out battle and afterwards John sailing to those Spanish gunrunning bases to take them out, more interaction between John and Buntaro would also be interesting to see with Buntaro possibly teaching John how to use Fuji's Family swords/katanas properly like a samurai, we also saw old John having Samurai armor in his room when his grandkids were inspecting it so John learning and becoming a Samurai like how Nathan Algren did in the movie "The Last Samurai"(another samurai movie that Hiroyuki Sanada played in) might be a possibility too!
Are you mentally damaged or something? Portuguese, not spanish.
Honestly ssuch a great show
The suspense building was top tier
Everyone should watch this
The book is a masterpiece, and this show is true to it.
Harry Potter owls? 😂 Thanks MT, because I was wonder how they received word that fast. 😂