I went 2 winters here in northern mn with an outdoor pitcher pump, now I have a well pump on my solar. My son still uses his... he's on his 4th winter. I have a hint from our perpetually frozen northland.... that little bolt on the side that holds the pump together... if you loosen that just enough to lose your suction after your done pumping your water will fall back into the well quick enough so u won't freeze ur pipe or get a block on your flapper lol.... he keeps a little socket thing tied right on his hand pump... takes just a sec9nd to tighten the nut, pump your water, loosen the nut and let the water fall.... pump the handle a couple times to dry off the flapper a little a run back into the house ♡ Sure hope you guys can develop your well this year... that will be a fun journey to follow along on.
@@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving That thing you call a "flapper" is the check valve for a shallow well hand pump... Leave OFF your bottom of the well check valve and lift fully up on the hand pump handle, the water in your pump and pipe will drain back into the well by opening up the leather check valve in your pump!!! You will have to prime your pump more often, Thank You,
I know you have probably already heard this but from your earlier well videos you need to cap the end of the well casing to prevent silt clogging everything. To late for this well unless you can find a smaller diameter pipe to act as a new well casing but larger than your pipe connected to the pump. Good luck in the spring.
I would try a construction type gasoline mud pump to pump out a basin at The bottom of the well. Raise the suction line on the hand pump 12” to get out of the silt. It will clear up in a short time. Good luck!
That a good lesson to learn.. My great Grandmother had a enclosed well pit in the ground about 7 feet in the ground and on the very coldest times ot would freeze..
We have three springs on the land we have tapped into it ,don't have the supplies to do so,but we get water from it with buckets rain water to bath i love it at time i get depressed, and wanna quit i have to think about it i have nowhere to go, i get back at it when reality nick in.
Martin, I can't guarantee it will work, but shouldn't cost that much to try my idea. If you could use reducers or some other method to seal the top of your 4" casing and pump in water under pressure, you might be able to force the sediment to flow out through the pea gravel and up to the top outside the casing. That may allow the gravel to settle on down to the bottom and help prevent sediment from washing back in. Since it's this much later, you may have already resolved it some other way. This was the latest update that I saw.
you need to keep the the piping tube supported and steady and not wobbling to stand concentrate and steady on the water level so not agitating the soil below in the water level...I’m use to this pitcher pump as this what we use to have in the Philippines before to have free water.... try this I said and you will see...
At 18 feet if it was full to the top with water you would not have that much. In 1949 when I was a toddler daddy with grandpa's help cut the tember and built a house. They dug about a 18 foot well about 4 foot diameter. You only need 2-3 feet of water to supply a house. It will be a lot of work but maybe you need to dig your well. "Red Poppy Ranch" dug one with a backhoe. Filled the hole with a large diameter pipe and rock. Ours was hand dug with dirt walls (no liner). "Busted Wagon Ranch" dug his with a back hue.
I don't know if this will help you. But my grandfather a long time ago in the 50s did a point well in northern Wisconsin and what he called glacial till. And I just used high water or strike that they just used high-pressure water weather five horse Briggs & Stratton from the lake to pressurize a pipe and drive it into the ground. All I got what is a lot of mud and kept having to prime it. About the time I was 12 the neighbor said don't give up on that well so the neighbor suggested that he support the the stem the casing and pressurize the bottom of the well. Not to the point well as I recall he rented a pump and pressurized the casing well being supported and pumped it for a bob I think it was like a day and a half. Then it cleared up. It cleared up and he built a jury-rigged motor Corona hand pump that's not supposed to say that. Jerry-rigged motor to the pump and ran it. And as far as I understand now 66 years later some of the best water on the lake. I hope this helps. Carry on
I didn't check any of the other messages the law in your state says that you cannot drill below 18 feet without professional drilling team in permits. I understand this it doesn't say anything about driving a Well Point down. I don't know if the suggestion has been made to yet some places call it a Sandpoint we call it a well point in Maine. I see no reason why you can't use your existing shaft that you've already drilled and simply add the appropriate length you need to drive your WellPoint very deep in the ground. This you would not need a permit for. I wish you and your family all the best for everything you do sure helps us out thank you
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I HAD a pitcher pump in my kitchen for 20 years in northern Maine..Thought you was catching water off the roof??? don't kick your frozen buckets,, turn it over put a hot wet towel on it.. They break easy when frozen..i had 3 days below zero last week 1 was 22 below F,, and 3 more coming starting tomorrow ....., did you watch the video 24 hour snow in 30 second newfoundland canada...
Hey Martin just watched Stoney Ridge farmer using a passive Ram water pump system to bring water to his land. I think with the stream you have it may be a good thing for you to look into or try for your land..
It may be a good idea to pull the casing and drill perforations in it along and below the water level. (this also means getting the gravel you poured in around the casing out of the hole) Then reset your casing in the hole. Pour gravel around the casing to seat it, but also pour 6 to 9 inches of gravel down the casing, possibly helping to prevent silt build up in your pump pipe. Then send pump pipe back down the hole and try again. Just a thought... Not a gurantee.
A drilled well punches thru the underlaying rock layers until you get enough flow. With a drilled well, you usually get those nasty minerals and foul smells. A bored well - usually three feet across - bores down thru the dirt and collects the water flowing over the rock layers. this water is pure and actual sweet. My last well was 63 feet deep, dry when it was cased, and had 47 feet of water in it the next day. You need to discover how deep is your soil level.
I'm starting to think that if someone was living off grid, and they relied on their shallow well for their water (assuming in the winter ponds, etc, will be froze over), then it would be wise to install the shallow well indoors where your wood burning stove will keep the water thawed, but more importantly, the leathers thawed preserved. The winter will destroy those leathers, and without the leather, the entire pump and well is useless. In a survival situation, you couldn't even risk damaging that leather by pumping in the freezing cold. I had a relative that had a shallow well with hand pump on her back porch, on a climate controlled patio setting. When water is critical for survival in the winter, this is something that has to be considered in cold climates, if there are no other water sources that are not frozen.
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I would say to start over drill a new well the next time I would put a cap on the bottom of the casing keeping the clay out I would be sure to surround the casing with pea gravel to limit the clay from getting to the casing then u should have better results
I'd build an insulated enclosure around it. If it still freezes, I'd put a 100w incandescent light bulb on a temperature switch in the enclosure. Have it turn on at 32 degrees and off at 35 or 40 degrees.
@@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving Then in the summer you could dig down 3 feet or so and build a sunken enclosure using high density rigid foam insulation for the walls. The earth's natural ground temperature of 50 to 55 degrees would probably keep the enclosure temperature above freezing even on the coldest nights. Build a floor at ground level with grated material or planks with a generous gap between them for the earth's heat to rise. The solar panel system would then become your backup system.
I think you are dealing with a quicksand pocket. Having worked as a well driller, I have seen lots of it. It comes in many forms and textures from grainy to very fine. It usually sits in a depression in the bedrock or clay layer and can be exposed to the surface or underground in subterranean pools.
I would have gone and got a gold pan ;) That blue mud (very fine) can contain not only gold but diamonds!! Platinum is even possible! Gold miners call it "Blue Ground".
See: How to drill your own water well 1. But I do not think it is going to work for you, because your well contains to much clay. And you' re not allowed to get deeper than about six meters.
Enjoy your videos but was wondering if you had used a proper bore screen, would you have had as much trouble. If you think not then it might be time to bite the bullet on this well and dig a new one using a proper screen.
hey my friend like it is something difficult underground water because I have seen other videos where you are experiencing to draw water and it has not had any result. You have thought about putting a submersible water pump that is my suggestion take care greetings to the family
you guys didnt put a cap on the well walls so the opening is just ontop of clay, thats probably where it keeps seeping in. also you should have drilled tiny holes instead of slits.
Good Example, of why states and counties, don't allow people, to drill, there own well. You should have, back filled, with pea gravel, around the inlet, or slotted pipe and clay, on top of that. You can cause, ground water, contamination, by not, back filling, immediately, after you, drill a well.
Greetings from north Idaho! I feel like that handle is way too short, I think you'd save yourself some effort with more leverage. Was eyeballing that pump at north 40 myself! :)
@@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving not sure what size your outer casing pipe was, maybe 4 inches? I would go buy a 3" PVC casing pipe, cap the end, and put it inside the 4" PVC, and eliminate that clay and sediment. Would only cost you about $40.
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I went 2 winters here in northern mn with an outdoor pitcher pump, now I have a well pump on my solar. My son still uses his... he's on his 4th winter. I have a hint from our perpetually frozen northland.... that little bolt on the side that holds the pump together... if you loosen that just enough to lose your suction after your done pumping your water will fall back into the well quick enough so u won't freeze ur pipe or get a block on your flapper lol.... he keeps a little socket thing tied right on his hand pump... takes just a sec9nd to tighten the nut, pump your water, loosen the nut and let the water fall.... pump the handle a couple times to dry off the flapper a little a run back into the house ♡
Sure hope you guys can develop your well this year... that will be a fun journey to follow along on.
Great tip. Thank you.
@@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving That thing you call a "flapper" is the check valve for a shallow well hand pump... Leave OFF your bottom of the well check valve and lift fully up on the hand pump handle, the water in your pump and pipe will drain back into the well by opening up the leather check valve in your pump!!! You will have to prime your pump more often, Thank You,
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I know you have probably already heard this but from your earlier well videos you need to cap the end of the well casing to prevent silt clogging everything. To late for this well unless you can find a smaller diameter pipe to act as a new well casing but larger than your pipe connected to the pump. Good luck in the spring.
I would try a construction type gasoline mud pump to pump out a basin at The bottom of the well. Raise the suction line on the hand pump 12” to get out of the silt. It will clear up in a short time. Good luck!
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That a good lesson to learn.. My great Grandmother had a enclosed well pit in the ground about 7 feet in the ground and on the very coldest times ot would freeze..
Sounds nice. Where did she live?
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Nice.
Cold cold day my friend. Sorry you ran into frozen water issues. Luckily you always have a fix 👍
We don’t use that well right now. People just kept asking for an update so I gave them one.
@@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving well it was a great update 👍 stay warm guys 😃
Seems like it could be a good idea to build a shed above the pump to keep it somewhat warm in winter.
If we start actually using it that would be a great idea.
We have three springs on the land we have tapped into it ,don't have the supplies to do so,but we get water from it with buckets rain water to bath i love it at time i get depressed, and wanna quit i have to think about it i have nowhere to go, i get back at it when reality nick in.
Sounds interesting. Where are you located?
Martin, I can't guarantee it will work, but shouldn't cost that much to try my idea. If you could use reducers or some other method to seal the top of your 4" casing and pump in water under pressure, you might be able to force the sediment to flow out through the pea gravel and up to the top outside the casing. That may allow the gravel to settle on down to the bottom and help prevent sediment from washing back in. Since it's this much later, you may have already resolved it some other way. This was the latest update that I saw.
you need to keep the the piping tube supported and steady and not wobbling to stand concentrate and steady on the water level so not agitating the soil below in the water level...I’m use to this pitcher pump as this what we use to have in the Philippines before to have free water.... try this I said and you will see...
At 18 feet if it was full to the top with water you would not have that much. In 1949 when I was a toddler daddy with grandpa's help cut the tember and built a house. They dug about a 18 foot well about 4 foot diameter. You only need 2-3 feet of water to supply a house. It will be a lot of work but maybe you need to dig your well. "Red Poppy Ranch" dug one with a backhoe. Filled the hole with a large diameter pipe and rock. Ours was hand dug with dirt walls (no liner). "Busted Wagon Ranch" dug his with a back hue.
I don't know if this will help you. But my grandfather a long time ago in the 50s did a point well in northern Wisconsin and what he called glacial till. And I just used high water or strike that they just used high-pressure water weather five horse Briggs & Stratton from the lake to pressurize a pipe and drive it into the ground. All I got what is a lot of mud and kept having to prime it. About the time I was 12 the neighbor said don't give up on that well so the neighbor suggested that he support the the stem the casing and pressurize the bottom of the well. Not to the point well as I recall he rented a pump and pressurized the casing well being supported and pumped it for a bob I think it was like a day and a half. Then it cleared up. It cleared up and he built a jury-rigged motor Corona hand pump that's not supposed to say that. Jerry-rigged motor to the pump and ran it. And as far as I understand now 66 years later some of the best water on the lake. I hope this helps. Carry on
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I didn't check any of the other messages the law in your state says that you cannot drill below 18 feet without professional drilling team in permits. I understand this it doesn't say anything about driving a Well Point down. I don't know if the suggestion has been made to yet some places call it a Sandpoint we call it a well point in Maine. I see no reason why you can't use your existing shaft that you've already drilled and simply add the appropriate length you need to drive your WellPoint very deep in the ground. This you would not need a permit for. I wish you and your family all the best for everything you do sure helps us out thank you
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I HAD a pitcher pump in my kitchen for 20 years in northern Maine..Thought you was catching water off the roof??? don't kick your frozen buckets,, turn it over put a hot wet towel on it.. They break easy when frozen..i had 3 days below zero last week 1 was 22 below F,, and 3 more coming starting tomorrow ....., did you watch the video 24 hour snow in 30 second newfoundland canada...
I was just checking on the well. We don’t use it right now. So many people asked for an update.
Hey Martin just watched Stoney Ridge farmer using a passive Ram water pump system to bring water to his land. I think with the stream you have it may be a good thing for you to look into or try for your land..
I don’t have a stream.
It may be a good idea to pull the casing and drill perforations in it along and below the water level.
(this also means getting the gravel you poured in around the casing out of the hole)
Then reset your casing in the hole.
Pour gravel around the casing to seat it, but also pour 6 to 9 inches of gravel down the casing, possibly helping to prevent silt build up in your pump pipe.
Then send pump pipe back down the hole and try again.
Just a thought... Not a gurantee.
If you are not using it store it away till it warms up some. just thing out loud.
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you didn't put a cap at the bottom of the pipe to prevent mud form going into the pipe
when installing the well before pea gravel
If it every gets going, building a pump house over it will solve the freezing problem. Can't wait to see in Spring!
Ahhhhh threw my back, Martin
A drilled well punches thru the underlaying rock layers until you get enough flow. With a drilled well, you usually get those nasty minerals and foul smells. A bored well - usually three feet across - bores down thru the dirt and collects the water flowing over the rock layers. this water is pure and actual sweet. My last well was 63 feet deep, dry when it was cased, and had 47 feet of water in it the next day. You need to discover how deep is your soil level.
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I'm starting to think that if someone was living off grid, and they relied on their shallow well for their water (assuming in the winter ponds, etc, will be froze over), then it would be wise to install the shallow well indoors where your wood burning stove will keep the water thawed, but more importantly, the leathers thawed preserved. The winter will destroy those leathers, and without the leather, the entire pump and well is useless. In a survival situation, you couldn't even risk damaging that leather by pumping in the freezing cold.
I had a relative that had a shallow well with hand pump on her back porch, on a climate controlled patio setting. When water is critical for survival in the winter, this is something that has to be considered in cold climates, if there are no other water sources that are not frozen.
My family and I would like to thank you for your very pleasant and entertaining videos. Also, great job on the score you got for us at my patriot supply. Thanks and God bless Martin!
Thank you and you are welcome.
I would say to start over drill a new well the next time I would put a cap on the bottom of the casing keeping the clay out I would be sure to surround the casing with pea gravel to limit the clay from getting to the casing then u should have better results
Idaho...? What next? Alaska? North America states, near of Canada are cold as broken hearts!
Maybe
@@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving if ye off-Grid on alaska... Must be you are rambo!!
..GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR SEARCH FOR H2O..LOL GOOD VID
Thanks.
I'd build an insulated enclosure around it. If it still freezes, I'd put a 100w incandescent light bulb on a temperature switch in the enclosure. Have it turn on at 32 degrees and off at 35 or 40 degrees.
Where would you get the power for the bulb?
@@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving Then in the summer you could dig down 3 feet or so and build a sunken enclosure using high density rigid foam insulation for the walls. The earth's natural ground temperature of 50 to 55 degrees would probably keep the enclosure temperature above freezing even on the coldest nights. Build a floor at ground level with grated material or planks with a generous gap between them for the earth's heat to rise. The solar panel system would then become your backup system.
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I think you are dealing with a quicksand pocket. Having worked as a well driller, I have seen lots of it. It comes in many forms and textures from grainy to very fine. It usually sits in a depression in the bedrock or clay layer and can be exposed to the surface or underground in subterranean pools.
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Need to try a new well man, will be more easy for you. This one mine himself with clay is not good. Try new one on a good spot on your property.
Drill a small hole in your pipe about 6' below ground level and your pump won't freeze up
That is a good idea.
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Thanks you too.
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Iam wondering if putting a flat plate on the bottom of the filter would help keep it out of the silt.
I was thinking the same thing. We will have to experiment with it in the spring.
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maybe tux 😅
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Good night
You can cook that snow change it to water
I would have gone and got a gold pan ;) That blue mud (very fine) can contain not only gold but diamonds!! Platinum is even possible! Gold miners call it "Blue Ground".
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See: How to drill your own water well 1.
But I do not think it is going to work for you, because your well contains to much clay. And you' re not allowed to get deeper than about six meters.
Who care. I drill mine at 75 feets.
Enjoy your videos but was wondering if you had used a proper bore screen, would you have had as much trouble. If you think not then it might be time to bite the bullet on this well and dig a new one using a proper screen.
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hello Johnson family hope all is well. was just wondering what is the nearest town to your homestead?
Build a small well house
Build a little shed around the water pump.
No need. I’m not using it now. Maybe next winter.
Why would you not put in a cistern and store water from your roofs it looks like a wet area
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hey my friend like it is something difficult underground water because I have seen other videos where you are experiencing to draw water and it has not had any result. You have thought about putting a submersible water pump that is my suggestion take care greetings to the family
Why not try harvesting rain?
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you guys didnt put a cap on the well walls so the opening is just ontop of clay, thats probably where it keeps seeping in. also you should have drilled tiny holes instead of slits.
Good Example, of why states and counties, don't allow people, to drill, there own well. You should have, back filled, with pea gravel, around the inlet, or slotted pipe and clay, on top of that. You can cause, ground water, contamination, by not, back filling, immediately, after you, drill a well.
It's a shallow well. No permit needed in this part of the country
where freedom can still be had.
I did not know snowflakes use so many commas.
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Greetings from north Idaho! I feel like that handle is way too short, I think you'd save yourself some effort with more leverage. Was eyeballing that pump at north 40 myself! :)
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Looks like a new "insulated" water housing Cover coiming up...
It's very expensive to have a well dug by professionals. But you would have good water. Water from 20 feet could be suspect.
So true.
Hey Martin my pap covered his pump with burlap sacks
He swore by them they was
good insulation
Nyimak...
No. It is winter.
Could have jus tput it in a bucket full of warm water too :)
Hmmmm Grey poopon. Lol
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Nice and frozen! what a big difference from South Florida Homestead if we get 40 degree for at least 2 days is a blessing.
No doubt. We lived in the tropics for 9 years. Nice but like the 4 seasons.
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The bottom of your casing should have cap on it to keep mud and soot from getting in.
Think it is a little late for that. What do you think?
@@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving it was too late when I saw the video, lol
@@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving not sure what size your outer casing pipe was, maybe 4 inches? I would go buy a 3" PVC casing pipe, cap the end, and put it inside the 4" PVC, and eliminate that clay and sediment. Would only cost you about $40.
Is it the only water resource?
You should build a shed for the well
No. We done even use it.
Dig a well like what red poppy ranch has
Maybe I will.
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If Sandpoint is on a plateau, then drilling a well must be at least 20 meters from the ground level.
You could look at google earth and let me know what you think.
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Should have capped the 4inch pipe.
Need to drill deeper. U r at the surface of the real clear water site. Maybe 6 or 7 more feet .
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