CANON C70 Speed Booster | Better than Full Frame?
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- čas přidán 3. 01. 2021
- In this video I compare the Canon C70 with the Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R .71x to the Full Frame Canon C500 Mark ii.
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I’m still waiting for my adapter however it seems canon is showing you the equivalent f stop, rather than the actual opening of the lens. So while it was reading 2.8 for both tests, the lens was actually stopped down further on the C70 in order to give the amount of light and DOF you would be expecting without the speed booster.
Theoretically the DOF and focal length should be much much closer if you simply had the same lens at their most wide open, and then count stops down from there.
Exactly what I was going to write haha awesome video, Griffin!
Thanks Jesse! My brain was breaking trying to figure out how the speedbooster could *increase* DOF with an equivalent f stop, focal length and distance from subject, but this explanation makes so much sense. I don't think showing equivalent f-stop is good practice...seems pretty confusing.
Exactly.
What Jesse said!
Exactly. For a real 1-to-1 here, you have to have the C70 at 1 stop lower at all times. That's what the speedbooster does to begin with.
Hey Griffin, really like your presentation style. DIrect, honest, and down to earth. Thanks for keeping it real and relaxed.
Great Job Griffin
I was really waiting for this test
I think your reviews are among the best
Great video! Thanks for all of your content. I just got the C70 and you’re helping me out a lot. Keep it going!
Really great stuff. I’ve been a Canon shooter for years and this is one of the most useful series I’ve found. I can tell you’re out there working and living with the gear. Thank you!
woah what a quality! I am glad CZcams recommended me this video.
great stuff Griffin.
Love your videos Griffin!
almost watched all your videos about the c70 very good content love how you explain stuff
Thanks for this video Griffin!
Been waiting for this review!!!
Thanks for watching Justin!
Thanks for that video. Just received my C70 so any info on how other people are getting on with it is very welcome. Keep up the good work!
Awesome breakdown! Glad I found your channel a few weeks ago. Debating on investing in the c70 now that I’m doing more video shoots and becoming a big part of my business. currently on a 5d4 since I was primarily a photographer
Love this channel - as a small team (2) and using Canon and Leica your advice and reviews are impeccable. Will be buying a C70 mainly because of you reviews. Many thanks.
Great video, very helpful :)
Awesome video dude!!! That booster+c70 combo looks awesome.
Totally! Pretty stoked on it! Thanks for watching Ty!
Really appreciate all the C70 insights. Looking hard at this camera.
DEF INTIERESTED IN SEEIN GIT ON THE KOMDO!
Im interested in testing this soon. Seems a lot of people are interested. Thanks for watching.
Griffin Thanks a lot for doing is kind of tests I love this one.
Thanks for watching Pablo!
Thanks for the comparison. Just got mine in the mail yesterday and need to start testing it.
Awesome stoked to watch your content on it
Great info! Thanks for the hard work!
Thanks for wathing! Glad you found it useful
Thank you for the video, my Speed Booster will be here tomorrow and I was happy to see your test. Now I feel confident that I did the right thing and will start using it in my work.
Thank you so much! Very informative!
Hey bro great to see you again. Hope you had a great Christmas and just wanted to wish you a very Happy New year and may 2021 bring you much success, joy and happiness. Stay safe and catch up again real soon.
Awesome test thanks for sharing
I am looking forward to when i can get the speedbooster for my c70.. can’t wait. :) Love the video!
This is great Griffin! So I think what is happening with the speedbooster is effecting how the aperture values appear. One thing to note is the an F 0.9 setting on the C70 with the speedbooster is equivalent to the F 1.2 on the C500 Mark II. The numbers change because Canon (and Sony for that matter) felt that speedboosters should provide the equivalent aperture settings or put another way, show you that the speed boosters are converting the lens in use to a +1 stop version. So with the speedbooster combined with the 50mm F1.2 used on the C70 you get approximately a 50mm F0.85 Aperture lens (rounded to 0.9) on a crop sensor. I wish they would just adjust the aperture to read out the lenses in their full frame equivalent so you can match to other full frame cameras, but instead the apply the math accurately and read out the new calculated aperture factoring in the size of the sensor in use. So when you set the aperture to 0.9 on the 50mm on the C70 with the speedbooster you are setting the f1.2 50mm lens to the same wide open setting as you are when the 50mm is on the C500.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching. I agree it was a little confusing but after this test it seems pretty straight forward to me now
Thank you so much for this test. 🙏
Thanks for watching!
Well done. That's some good info, thanks.
I’ve had the camera and booster for nearly 18 months and I still enjoyed this video. Thanks.
Thank you!
Do you have problem with famous "purple circle"? I can not find the enough information about it, as no one realy tested it with vatiety of focal lenght, matte box etc?
Nice stuff, Griffin! Yet another useful review with personal thoughts about an exciting product. The potential of the 50mm 1.2 get's me excited.
Thanks for the support as always Christopher! Really appreciate it! An yes that 50 at .9 on the c70 is crazy!!!!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Thanks for watching Borja!
Good job man
Great video bro. Always informative. I'm still waiting for C70 vs 1dx mark iii.
I'm working on it! Thanks for watching!
Nice job, Griff. I appreciate the analysis. I just received my C70 a couple of days ago and waiting to receive the speed booster. I have another adapter and have used the sigma 24mm lens on it and it autofocus seems to work the same as on my R5 and 1DX MK III.
Your videos are very informative. Thanks!
Glad you like them!
Need that Komodo test ASAP! You’re content is straight forward and great!!
Yessir! Great stuff. Yea with the field of view increasing, It's so interesting that it does increase DOF. Definitely looks like an amazing B cam to the c500II.
Totally agree! Such a good B cam at a great price point. Thanks for watching Keith!
Hey Griffin, thanks for the video. Would love to see a test with the Komodo!
Definitely would love to see a KOMODO+speed booster test, as that's a combo I'm really eager to get :D
Nice! Ill try to get that done in the next few weeks!
@@GriffinConway Cheers! And keep up the good work and amazing content! ;)
@@GriffinConway is a little to the United of the m
@@GriffinConway vocas-0900-0034-eos-r-0-71x-adapter-komodo You should get this one
Yes, Komodo test, please. Great video-straightforward, short and clear. Keep them coming.
Thanks for telling the world that the AF does in fact work with lenses other than the three canon originally mentioned. This pretty much solidified my purchase.
Would love to see a functionality test with the Komodo and this or the metabones booster :)
Cool! I will try to get that test done
comodo... red use c100 canon in comodo
Awesome review on the canon speedbooster!
Please do a video with the Komodo as well! 🙏🏼
Great video really :)
More tests with the komodo and speedbooster! loved the video!
More to come!! Thanks for watching!
Great work! I'd personally love to see the Komodo tests, too.
Great! Ill keep that in mind. Thanks!
The C500mk2 just looks real nice out the box... good vid
Thanks for watching!
You got a new sub btw
You rock Griffin!
Thank you!
Great video! Definitely interested in a Red Komodo + Speedbooster video!
Great! Keep an eye on the channel and I will get it done in the next few weeks!
3:34 Hang on, you're NOT a scientist? Why the hell am I watching this then!?! ;) Great job Griffin, love your content.
I think the C70 with speedbooster gives you a reading of the aperture based on the compensation for the extra stop of light. Meaning F2.0 is not really F2 but it´s F2.8. You should do the same test with manual aperture to confirm this
I think you are correct
I have a BMPCC4K with metabones speedbooster and it does this. The camera does the conversion to say what equivalent f-stop would be. I think this would explain the difference in depth of field you were seeing.
@@benbigelow4651 Yes me too.
@@Pierluca72 yes in terms of light but not in terms of depth of field
@@shzammpatapon9865 at same aperture (not what the camera says but same position of the actual iris blade) the dof is identical, only the native is cropped compared to the one with focal reducer. Now if you want to move the camera with focal reducer closer to the subject and reframe so that you get a similar field of view to the native, then it's not comparable anymore and obviously you get shallower dof by moving the camera closer
Awesome video dude, I would love to see a similar comparison at the base 800iso for both of these cameras to see if the c70 iso's cleaner than the c500mkii in any scenarios?
Good video Griffin. One thing that I didn’t understand well is: do you get a shallower depth of fiend with the speed booster or the opposite?
Thank you for the video, it's really helpful. Please what SD card do you use for the C70?
Solid video! Funny until you mentioned it, forgot you only have 5k subs...just watch this thing is going to blow up quick with this quality! ....Also Delanie might help with that growth haha
Always appreciate the support Fraser! And I agree Delanie is a huge part of this channels growth!
Solid comparison! While it can easily be adjusted of course, I think I like the native magenta shift on the C70 vs. the green on the C500 Mk II.
I think they both look good and unless you are a really looking for it, it would be hard to notice. Especially if it was a typical A cam / B cam setup where one is at an angle. Anyways, thanks for watching and checking the video out!
Great work. when you have time can you do a dynamic range comparison between the C500ii and C70, Highlights and shadows.
If there is enough interest I will do a full comparison like my other comparisons on my channel. I usually do polls on my community tab to get a feel for what would be interesting to most people. Thanks for watching!
Thank you 🙏
Did you find the autofocus covered less of the frame when using the speedbooster? Great video by the way.
You have to apply the crop factor to the aperture too. 1:1 even at the same aperture settings, with a focal reducer in between it will be a different DOF.
You should move your C70 closer to the subject when using a speedbooster in order to get a similar frame composition, which will make the C70 and C500 ii have a similar DOF.
yes PLEASE do a video on the komodo + speed booster :)
Hmmm, interesting. Outstanding, Griffin... I’m shamelessly still partial to the 1DXM3 and wondered how the speed booster’s depth of field change compared to full frame 1DXM3 AND the Komodo
Well done. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Id love to see a Komodo + Speed booster test, Im torn between the C70 and the Komodo so videos like this helps a lot
Your awesome ordered your rig recommendation! From Germany not so easy
It would be amazing if you do a video testing the Canon 0.71x speedboster on the Red Komodo. Specially showing how the autofocus works with canon L series glass + Canon Speedbooster.
Thanks for the content Griffin! Cheers from Barcelona
Thanks for watching! I love Barcelona, I visited there about 10 years ago. I will try to do the komodo test in the future!
Really interested in the Komodo+adapter test. Sounds interesting.
Great video. Thank you for sharing. I think the issue with the depth of field appears to be because the lens was wide open on the c500 and stopped down on the c70 to compensate for the added light from compressing the image on the speed booster so even though the image was close to the same exposure, the smaller aperture of the c70 was giving you a wider depth of field. Since the sensors are not the same size there is no perfect “apples to apples” comparison but if you want to compare bokeh you would want to make sure both lenses are wide open and adjust exposure through ISO or ND.
Yep, that is basically the same conclusion I came to in the video as well. Thanks for watching!
Would be have to see a speed booster on the Red! Exciting times in the gear world.
Thanks Griffin for your video. I would love to see the speed booster on the Komodo
Awesome thanks! Will try to make that happen!
@@GriffinConway that would be awesome. Since the Komodo has a slightly bigger Sensor Than the c70 I’m wondering if ff lenses will cause vignetting. When I’m doing the math correctly the Komodo will get a 0.9x FOV which is wider than FF. I really appreciate the work you’re doing keep it up
Hey Griffin, great video. Depth of field is kind of fascinating isn’t it? The reason your lens matches at f/2 on the C70 and f/2.8 on the C500 II is because that is when your lens is stopped down to the same physical aperture size.
The speed booster is simply compressing the image circle projected by the lens on to the sensor. At f/2.8 on the C500, the lens is stopped down to f/2.8 internally. If you took this same lens configuration and put it on the speed booster it would become f/2 due to the reduction in focal length. But the image is still the same. This means if you have a 50mm f/2.8 it becomes a 35mm f/2 (both of these keep the same 17.7mm physical aperture) but you end up with the same framing between the two cameras because of the smaller sensor on the C70.
When you stop down to the same aperture of f/2.8 on both cameras you end up with a 50mm f/2.8 setting with a 17.7mm aperture on the C500, and a 35mm f/2.8 setting with a 12.5mm aperture on the C70 with speed booster. Smaller physical apertures = higher depth of field.
So what you observed is absolutely correct! You have to open the aperture one additional stop to match depth of field (and light collection) with the speed booster. If you stop them down to the same aperture you’re eliminating the advantage of the speed booster. You should always use 1 stop wider aperture and 1 stop lower ISO setting when possible to achieve full frame equivalent noise and depth of field.
Ya it is interesting for sure! It was fun to test this for myself and see it in the real world. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for doing the test. Was waiting for that! Is there any noticeable loss of sharpness when using the speed booster compared with the C500 m2?
There is none that I can notice...although the 6k sensor in the c500 mark ii is sharper overall than the c70
The komodo test would be lovely
Hey! Great video! I got a question. I heard that when using the the autofocus with the speedbooster, the C70 can only autofocus on a smaller part of the field of view. Is that correct? is it the part inside the black frame on your screen? Thanks a lot!
That was perfect. Please do that test with the Komodo!
Thanks for watching! Seems like there is a lot of interest there so I will try to make that happen
Great video. Very interested in the komodo test since the komodo sensor size is effectively a 1.33 crop. 1.33 x .71 = .944. Curious how much more wide this seems when comparing directly to a full frame sensor.
Yes! Komodo speedbooster video please🙏🏻🔥🔥
As a Komodo owner currently figuring out the best rigging options, I would love to see how the Komodo works with the speedbooster. Im going between PL cine glass or a speedbooster and FF EF glass. For about 2 years I shot exclusively with the GH5, Metabones speedbooster and the sigma 18-35 F1.8 and it was great. I'd like to see if the AF works on the komodo, also can you try some more tricky lighting situations please? This highlights lens issues :)
I would be very interested in a sharpness/optical degradation comparison between full frame and speedboosted c70. Normally with speedboosters (especially cheaper ones) your loose some image quality (most noticable wide open on the edges). I would be interested how good canon's adapter-optics are made.
Definitely curious to know how the speedbooster works on the Komodo. Currently deciding between getting the Komodo or keeping my C70.
interested for sure!
Great! I will try to make it happen
Honestly man, I would keep the c70. What benefits are you hoping to get from a komodo? If you are not happy with the image of the c70 the komodo will not be much better
@@jordantimothy97 2 month old post but yeah, I ended up cancelling the Komodo preorder. Too many quirks I can't ignore - like the long boot-up time and the protruding batteries.
@@JervyHou I’m torn between moving over to Sony or getting the C70 (coming from BlackMagic so current lens kit isn’t a deciding factor)
The reason I’m debating is because I’ve never been in love with Sony’s color science. Thoughts?
I actually canceled my FX3 order because I’m still undecided.
komodo test yess!
Red Komodo With Speed Booster TEST
It will be a great video
As always, we will be grateful
If you make this video
Speed booster is a focal reducer. Wider focal length means deeper DOF. And of course the c500 has a shallower DOF it’s a full frame sensor and the c70 is super35. Just because you use a focal reducer doesn’t change your sensor size.
Hey Griffin, any chance you have info recording RAW on a C200 using a SSD drive? The Cfast cards are crazy expensive and I understand this could be a viable workaround. Great video by the way. THX!
It would be great to see a speedbooster test with the komodo!
Of course you have to open the speed boosted lens another stop to match the full-frame DOF. I would like to see a test of the 4k through the speed booster. Thanks
Would definitely like to see the speed booster test with Komodo
I'd love an in-depth dynamic range comparison between the c500, c70 + speedbooster, c70 no speedbooster, and Komodo 🤟🏽🎥
I will try to get some of those tests done!
Note to Self: Use a lint roller on your hat before filming 😂 also, 2:45 should say f/2.8, iso 6400 on both cameras (sorry about that!)
It would be great to do the speed booster with the Komodo. Very good job. Thanks.
Was super excited to get my 0.71x canon booster. Arrived today and will be going back to RF lenses. I used the 24-105 Ef ii and the autofocus motor was being picked up by the rode mic I had on top.
Any point in keeping the speed booster for manual lenses? Just the extra light and wider field of view with manual lenses I guess?
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👍 Nice work. Now make another.
Man I brought C200 watching you. I brought C70 watching you. I brought Mount Adapter watching you and now I sold C200...:-). You do great videos.
Haha that’s awesome! How are they working for you so far?
@@GriffinConway I sold the C200. I upgraded to the C70. The C70 form factor is much easier to travel with and with the exposure tool like false color it makes nailing exposure a breeze. No more need to RAW. I can travel with C70 and DJI Ronin SC 2 and a few lens all in a backpack. Love it man. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks!!!
Komodo test 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
The speedbooster adds 1 stop of light and the camera compensates te number of the f stop for it so when it says 2.0 the it is actually 2.8 only one stop brighter. So that is why the depth of field matches when you open up 1 more f stop. But to really compare you have to set the fstop 1 step brighter since it’s actually the same. The extra stop of light is one off the benefits of a speedbooster.
Thanks man, great testing as always.
Could you see how much in real life the autofocus area effects shooting? To my knowledge it shrinks down from 80% to 60% coverage.
In the autofocus section you can see a little square on the screen. That shows you the area that can achieve focus. I think in the real world it wont affect shooting much
@@GriffinConway that looks quite large enough, thanks for the quick response. Can't wait for mine, 2 weeks to go!