Jordan Peterson: Would I Ever Hit A Woman?
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Professor of psychology Dr. Jordan B Peterson talks about whether he could ever strike his woman.
Full Length Lecture: 2017 Personality 17: Biology and Traits: Agreeableness
Jordan Bernt Peterson is a Canadian clinical psychologist, cultural critic, and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. His main areas of study are the psychology of religious and ideological belief, and the assessment and improvement of personality and performance.
He earned a degree in political science in 1982 and a degree in psychology in 1984, both from the University of Alberta, and his Ph.D. in clinical psychology from McGill University in 1991. He remained at McGill as a post-doctoral fellow for two years before moving to Massachusetts, where he worked as an assistant and an associate professor in the psychology department at Harvard University. In 1997, he moved to the University of Toronto as a full professor.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short-order cook, beekeeper, oil derrick bit re-tipper, plywood mill labourer and railway line worker. He’s taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and businessmen, consulted for the UN Secretary General’s High Level Panel on Sustainable Development, helped his clinical clients manage depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder, anxiety, and schizophrenia, served as an advisor to senior partners of major Canadian law firms, identified thousands of promising entrepreneurs on six different continents, and lectured extensively in North America and Europe.
He has flown a hammer-head roll in a carbon-fiber stunt plane, piloted a mahogany racing sailboat around Alcatraz Island, explored an Arizona meteorite crater with a group of astronauts, built a Native American Long-House on the upper floor of his Toronto home, and been inducted into the coastal Pacific Kwakwaka’wakw tribe.
With his students and colleagues, Dr. Peterson has published more than a hundred scientific papers, transforming the modern understanding of personality, and revolutionized the psychology of religion with his now-classic book, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief. As a Harvard professor, he was nominated for the prestigious Levinson Teaching Prize, and is regarded by his current University of Toronto students as one of three truly life-changing teachers.
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My great grandmother once told me "Never hit a women, but you can sure as hell hit her back".
LMAO
Sounds like she knows what shes talking about.
God! That is a really good point actually.
It shows how protective we are of women when this is not common practice.
It had not even crossed my mind to differentiate initiating aggression with self defence.
Joshua My grandma once told me the world is gonna roll me, I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed
Did she look kinda dumb with her finger and her thumb in the shape of an "L" on her forehead?
I had to stop hitting a woman just to watch this video.
Tad Ficus Catus
haha yes!
Fantastic lol
Tad Ficus Catus this comment wasn’t THAT funny... look at the comments above me Christ it’s like this is the pinnacle of human comedy.
Vard and you must be the arbiter of comedy and what is and isn't funny. Being triggered and REEEEEEEEE isn't an argument
Oh. my. fucking. gawd. This is the perfect movie moment, just scrolling through comments reading having a chuckle... then I see this and I don't know what the fuck in me decided to toss everything and proceed to nonstop laugh for like a minute but it felt good.
Anyone else ever just get those fits of laughter, that if you want, you can just keep going forever after it starts? Feels fucking amazing. Thank you :)
Jordan Peterson is brilliant. The content stands on its own without the childish clickbait title. You get a thumb down for that.
agreed
He didn't answer no, but he explained why it's a no.
But of course he'd defend himself
I agree. Thumbs down for the clickbait title
sadly thumbs down or thumbs up is *apparently* supposed to make the video more visible, i usually just ignore clickbait in general to make it go away
shoudnt hit anyone but if someone attacks you you can defend your self, even if it is a woman (no special case)
probably with the exception of if they are pregnant, I would think.
maalblade nope, smacking a bitch square in the nose ain't gonna hurt little Albert
As a female I agree I sometimes see females hit men and they think men don’t have feelings yea men might be physically stronger but some women can be equally strong
Kayla Leave a lot of female hit men because they know they won't hit back, this is wrong, because of this notion "you shouldn't hit a woman"so most men think they cannot do anything but take the abuse. When they should defend them selfs reasonably
Defending yourself does not always require you to hit back, there are alternatives depending on the situation like dodging hits or overpowering...
Most physically weak men are sensible enough to not go around provoking fights they know they can't win. It's only women who do this foolishness. I've heard multiple women bragging about how they once beat a man in a fight. No honey, he just didn't want to hit you back.
MrEarlBiggs
Well, duh. Of course they know that he doesn't want to hit back. Hence why they know they'll win.
Not nesessarily true. If a woman is 7ft and the man is 5ft then she can beat him up wihout even sweating.
@@Rin23392 Height has nothing to do with strength. I mean it does in some way but if that woman is 7 feet tall thin soggy potato and that 5 feet dude is an athlete, that dude will win in blink of an eye.
@@farzad_143 U know what I meant. Ok a female bodybuilder with a mans muscles fighting a skinny guy
Still doesn't change the fact that an average man is stronger than an average woman lol
Like Bill burr said: "don't tell me there are no reasons to hit a woman. You should just never do it"
You are an idiot then ; my mother bashed the crap out of me when I was younger and gave me as growing up a mistrust of women and problems with my ears ; I had to be treated for middle ear infection quite a few times !! You underestimate his aggressive women can be; and women get away with it while men don’t
@@iamasmurf1122 what he meant was by starting a sudden fight, which, no one should do
@@assaultthomas2632 no he didn't, watch his standup again, he chose to retaliate in a nonphysical way, aka he chose to be the bigger person. you don't hit a woman except if you're actually being assaulted and, especially not if it's your girlfriend/wife. Two wrongs don't make a right, talk it out and change things or cut the relationship off, don't be dragged down to their level.
If it's some random woman you don't know, then that's another situation IMO.
i believe women deserve rights.... and lefts!!!
gold !
I DEMAND EQUAL LEFTS FOR WOMEN!!!
10 outta 10 my friend ROFL
Men should be able to defend themselves, though they must wield their strength differently than they do with men. I often think how amazing men are, who are very restrained when a woman unleashes physical and /or verbal violence. Anecdotally, I find that whilst women tend to treat men and women the same, good men tend to recognise that they mustn't treat women like men regardless of measure of the woman's femininity. They are keenly aware of innate strength differences. Fascinating psychology, really.
and a good one-two here and there.
And a hook.
How is the title at all related to the video smh
ya its kinda clickbait
J read the most liked comment on top, you'll know
How is it not?
how is math related to science ?
stupid clickbait is stupid
If a woman hits a man just because she's pissed, that man should just cut ties with her and never contact her again just because most of society frowns upon a man fighting back to a woman. No excuses for unnecessarily violence. I saw some of my friends take hits from women and they just took it. It was sad.
A girl once tried to bully me with a bad car accident of my mother, her mother happened to know my mother apparently, but I didn't even know her. She was a really manipulative girl in my class. So a couple days later she came up to me and grabbed my bike while I was trying to get home telling me something I don't even remember. Well, I hit her so hard on the arm when she grabbed my bike that she never dared to talk to me again, and I didn't get any flag for it from anybody. If you do me wrong I do you wrong, I'm a simple man lol. Equality all the way :)
Its not about equality, think about it as self restraint, or taking the higher ground, why would you knock out or hurt someone who is weaker and can't do you a physical damage? it is not about you being weak, I think this makes you the strong one here.
Of course every man has his limits, either physical or mental or psychological, but don't set the par too low for yourself and become snowflake waiting for the least motive to explode.
You are making a lot of assumptions here Gandhi. 1. You do not know my physical strength nor hers. You assume the man is always stronger, and even if I am... then she can not do physical damage? Bogus. 2. Well I wouldn't. That's a huge hyperbole. Punching somebody on the arm is not equivalent to knocking somebody out. 3. You do not always think like that. I was 16 years old, and I got to tell you it was one of the most gratifying moments of my life! Retrospectively it's always easy to make your fucking judgements, good for you. People have different philosophies and I think that entertaining physical dominance doesn't always represent weakness, sometimes you just have to draw the line. I have 0 regrets, to hell with your absolute morals, it felt good. And it still does.
My morals doesn't necessarily apply to you, everyone has his way in life, though I'm not Ghandi and I don't try to be one.
Me assuming a man is stronger than a woman is a valid assumption, this is biology u idiot.
I was not against u hitting the girl, just the idea of hitting girls cuz of "equality", I think it is stupid. It is up to u what u want to think.
ERR DUUUR every man is stronger than every women! You can call me an idiot all you want but that statement is devoid of any common sense you intellectually dishonest simpleton. A man who is 1.54 weighing 65KG is not stronger than a 1.82 82KG woman who is bodybuilding all her life. Or do you think you or just ANY man would win against a female boxing champion? Are you that fucking deluded? Sure, it's also up to you what you think. If you want to be dumb, go ahead.
Clickbait
He answered it.. don't do it because physiologically men weigh more, are stronger, and taller than woman.
Lasmamoe is right. JP did not cover it at all. When is it OK to hit a woman if at all - was NOT answered. Too much damn clickbait in regards of Jordan Peterson on CZcams, really. The downvotes are for just that, otherwise this is good video.
I was hoping for a direct answer as well, considering he has spoken about the necessity of being dangerous but being able to control it. Would be interesting to see if he'd say the same in the context of hitting women.
da good ol' bait
Fanboy much? There's already 15 days worth of videos on his own channel, plus thousands of clippings and dozens of guest appearances on other channels. There's no way you can watch them all, especially if the titles are misleading.
Down voted for click bait.
Go learn what click bait means.
Yeah it's a good vid but it is def. clickbait.
Elaiden nope
He did state that if he hit a woman he would moat likely kill her. He basically would hit that bitch to death, and they say Canadians are polite, I guess if you end a woman's suffering after you hit her it's polite.
+Navig Great job, bud.
Feel free to amend this:
Don’t hit anyone unless it’s to hit them back, whether a man or woman. If someone is hitting you, the ideal is to restrain them but if you do hit back, others don’t have grounds to judge.
I disagree I went through a lot of physical abuse sexual and domestic abuse. The men that hit me were bigger older stronger than me. I couldn’t hurt them back it scars me till this day I get nightmares and anxiety attacks! Men should never hit women back because they have physical advantage that we don’t have!
@@ellenhelen700 given that I’ve already said that hitting shouldn’t be initiated, what should a man do if he’s being hit by a woman? I’ll bet I’ve already covered your answer
@@ellenhelen700 if a real woman truly understands that while also having some common sense, she wouldnt hit a guy, knowing his advantages in the terms of physical strength. Everyone has a right to defend themselves, both men and women
@@ellenhelen700 why you hitting your partner , they are not there to die or killed by you just don't hit them ( you think men hit women is wrong yeah it's wrong bery very wrong but when a woman keeps hitting you , you told by others don't resist it let them beat you ( wtf 😒 i am a human to I don't promote violence ( i never hit another person because I don't have any power or any right to hit another person ( my wife or anyone unless they hit me )
if my wife hit me i will resist may be try to stop her or just self defence but not attack because it's against the rule. i won't let her just keeps hitting me it's also voilence.
@@assaultthomas2632 yes but any man can easily defend himself against a woman by just restraining her. he doesn't need to do far worse damage and potentially fatal damage by hitting her back. It's not needed and, physically it isn't like for like. I'm NOT saying it's ever ok for a woman to hit a man. Violence is never ok. But a man, i'm afraid, should not hit a woman back just as they wouldn't hit a child back bc they will do much more damage
2:09 "kangaroos do that too... *eh*." a true Canadian
You ever watched a kangaroo fight, it's fucking awesome
ive seen few but cant find much can you give me few links?
Mate just put Kangaroo fights into youtube, theres a few in there. Some in the wild others in public streets, they just don't give a fuck
Sure you're not confusing Canada with Australia?
AP12uZvfvag thats what i thought
and this is why wrestling your loved one is important
dan bark great fact, thank you
dan bark mine loves the venis flytrap
Learn some Akido.
to remind them that one of you is stronger than the other? or to just take out the physical stress lol
@@shorewall aikido is bullshit buddy.Learn some real stuff like bjj or wrestling
"We're not the only animals that punch, Kangaroo do that too ay" - Jordan Peterson a true Canadian hero
Love the guy. Got on the bandwagon when people where hating on him, saw video that seemed... honestly like a hatchet job and after that vid I could tell the hype was bs. If he was such a genuinely bad person, you wouldn't need to cut together a video and take statements out of context to fit a narrative.
Was actually disgusted seeing that happening here... the hell. Don't get Canada confused with America, or assume we have anywhere near the level of societal issues they have. I feel a lot of what hit Peterson was just controversy over the LGBT community in the U.S, and some... disappointing people coming here trying to smear his name.
Every video I watched of this man has been insanely useful. Excellent method of thought to incorporate into your own worldview. This guy, Niel, and Elon take my top 3 right now.
Eh*
erm....that's eh*
@@RajSingh-qc6lq he lied about the facts on domestic violence. It's completely shameful.
Octopi also
I'm disappointed at Peterson here when he misses the simple fact that it hurts incredibly to be deemed worthy to be punched by the person who claims to love you. The physical pain, if any, will heal, but crossing that line requires a level of contempt that a relation often cannot endure.
Hit back
@@RoboBreaker nah, just walk away from her, saves you alot of trouble
I keep clicking on the most provocatively titled Jordan Peterson clips and it's always him calmly and reasonably saying something almost entirely unrelated to the title.
Edit: This comment did not age well! I'll leave it up for posterity anyway.
that's because he never says anything of value
just two months later he complains about not being able to punch that female critic of his because society says its not okay
@@kaivogel253 my comment did not age well
When our cat had kittens, she retracted her claws and didn't scratch people any more. She was usually a tough hunting cat.
Janey Ann she felt that now the others can work for her and she doesn't have to work as hard for food anymore
Janey Ann Really? My 🐱 became even more suspicious and aggressive. She attacked the mailman a couple of times, so when i observed him lightly smacking her with the mailers through the screen, i was 😎 with it
darby crash 🐈🐈🐈😎😎😎
Your cat has succumbed to the white male patriarchy.
Janey Ann why does your cat have to be a she?! IT DIDNT TELL YOU IT IDENTIFIED AS FEMALE
"An infant under 9 months is never wrong!" Should be on t-shirts.
what if that infant is a white male though?
THATS TRUE
No one should hit each other. Men and women *BOTH* should learn how to understand and express their emotions, communicate to each other, then walk away if they simply can't remain civil over a disagreement.
Kasey Brown I can't agree with this. Men should never hit women unless they are in a position when that women is a risk to their or their family/friend health. Men against men is fine with me if it is not a useless fight. If you cross the line you get punched or smacked and believe me for men it works as an educating experience to cut that shit out. Been on both receiving and giving end of that education and it is neither violent nor that bad, it is not curb stomping. And I became friends with both people that smacked me and the one that I smacked till today. Men rarely go all violent kick you while you are down, mostly it is just a quick show of confidence that you won't allow other men to cross certain lines with you.
Non-sense. Men and women should learn how to understand and express their emotions, communicate to each other and fight in glorious combat until Vallhalla, where we'll all drink some mead and fight once again.
hahahahahhaahhaaahhaaha.....Who inflates your bubble champ?
Kasey Brown "No one should hit each other." Well no shit, but guess what sweetheart that's not how the world works. Utopia does not now nor will it ever exist.
North American boys & men are trained not to hit girls & women who are not similarly conditioned.
Feminist nonsense claiming that males & females are identical in all respects is eroding social norms with respect to male conditioning not to hit women. This is not good & North American women will pay the price unfortunately.
Soy boy?
It's wrong for anyone to physically abuse another being. People kill each other in wars and that is sad but torture in time of war is wrong. According to law, one should meet force with the force that is needed to stop the attack. So, if a woman attacks a man, he is within the law to subdue her aggression. Any additional force beyond that would constitute assault.
Jordan Peterson: Would I Ever Hit A Kangaroo?
Only if it had my dog in a headlock
not this man, i have been kicked by a kangaroo, and let me tell you, he was stronger then me.
Jordan would get obliterated by any kangaroo. This man has done nothing but lie and cry for years. He doesn't even shower before recording his recent videos. It's just sad to watch this bloated corpse in tweed.
I believe if a woman starts hitting you, first try to restrain her without punching her and if you cant then its go time
Truth is a hit is actually justified. Hit a pet lion and see what he does. Likely a paw strike.
If you're a man and you eventually hit a woman back, you better be sure there are multiple witnesses, because most of them won't tell the police what happened and you WILL be dealing with the law and chances are you WILL be arrested
You still have to use reasonable force. It's the law. I would use reasonable force with an elderly person as a women even if she was being a psycho.
Men and women are not equal. Two completely different things cannot be equal. That doesn't mean one is better than the other. It simply means they have differences, differences we need to accept. Men have their strengths and weaknesses and so do women. Working together there highs and low will fit together like a two cogs. If two parts are equal they will never bond, like the saying goes; opposites attract.
Well then men and men are not equal either...
what is a womans strenght?
@@jaydenwinter4647 being able to endure in a world that's made to break her down.
Giving birth
When I was a teenager I had to defend myself
I was a boy in bad shape, and overweight at the time. There was a group of girls who bullied me almost daily. I had more muscles than them. But they were in good condition and quick on their feet, they ran after me to bully me. I stood pressed in a corner, didn't protect myself, terrified of what consequence it could give me, but one day I had enough. I stood pressed in a corner. Got kicked and punched, the girls gave all their muscle power, my lips were bloody, and I was covered in bruises. Finally, I kicked carefully and gently pushed them away from me. I jacked myself down to their physical muscle level, if it was a person as strong as me, or stronger than me I would have given all my muscle power, but here I took their physical level into account.
I was punished by the teacher, he logged a note of unacceptable behavior from me , I said to the teacher "look how bloody and swollen my lips are", the teacher said that I had to deal with it, because they "had every right to defend themselves", they turned the situation around as if I had attacked them
I'm a fully trained fighter, a Super Heavyweight. My mother of all people said that any reason to hit a man is good enough to hit a woman; "a lot of these women can give as good as they get, so just wollop her if she's asking for it! And make it clear that if she wants to roll with the men, she can be beaten down like one!" but ya know, she was the type of woman to grab someone by the head in a rumble & tumble on the ground and throttle them on the pavement, or whack them with a vacuum cleaner extension pole. The type to go full on Hulk or King Kong on someone. I know. I've seen it. She's a strongly built woman. Exceptional genetics. Outside of training, I've never hit a man or woman. I think you'd near have to bash me in the head with a shovel to get me to fight back. Anyone ever been hit by a properly trained, competitive fighter? The smaller guys, Middleweight and below, their hands feel like rubber mallets smashing you on a full swing. Imagine what the bigger guys, the man-sized men, feel like.
so your mother is your moral instance on whether or not to hit a woman?
Actually there is a point just before puberty where a lot of girls are taller than many boys.
Equal rights, equal fights.
I was leaving a pub at closing. Walking down the outside steps I was hit on the side of the head by a basket of hot fries thrown by a drunken female that was sitting on the steps as I passed. When I turned and berated her for her disgusting behavior, she refused to apologize, stood up, and slapped me across the face.
I gave her an instant slap right back and then was forced to fight her drunken male companions when she complained that I struck her.
It’s hard to imagine how any child could survive (remain intact) not having a mother’s love. Not in this age where children are expected to grow up so fast. Sure, some men have wonderful paternal instincts. I was lucky to grow up with very loving parents. I simply wouldn’t be who I am today without them.
5:50 Peterson would tell an 18 month old to sort itself out.
ikr? i never told my 18 month old to do that. he started getting the time out chair at 3 years. so idk how an 18 month old can get a hold of their emotions. for real.
ibkristykat maybe HIS child, who is probably a genius in the making lol
that is NOT what he is saying. He's saying that the child at that age has to start learning consequences and this is true.
'You're still not cleaning your room. It's high time for you to get a job, move out and start a family.'
Are we all gonna ignore the clickbait? He didn't state how he would react at ay point.
He merely pointed out how the dynamics are.
When I was a teenager I had to defend myself
I was a boy in bad shape, and overweight at the time. There was a group of girls who bullied me almost daily. I had more muscles than them. But they were in good condition and quick on their feet, they ran after me to bully me. I stood pressed in a corner, didn't protect myself, terrified of what consequence it could give me, but one day I had enough. I stood pressed in a corner. Got kicked and punched, the girls gave all their muscle power, my lips were bloody, and I was covered in bruises. Finally, I kicked carefully and gently pushed them away from me. I jacked myself down to their physical muscle level, if it was a person as strong as me, or stronger than me I would have given all my muscle power, but here I took their physical level into account.
I was punished by the teacher, he logged a note of unacceptable behavior from me , I said to the teacher "look how bloody and swollen my lips are", the teacher said that I had to deal with it, because they "had every right to defend themselves", they turned the situation around as if I had attacked them
I've seen a man take an agressive woman lightly, and get his throat slit with a box-cutter. If I'm in public, and an aggressive woman strikes me, I intend to IMMEDIATELY "immobilze that threat". Stay safe Brothers.
So what you're saying is...
the same this as what you're saying.
The Juvo-Diamond Fair! I’m not saying that at all!
Adam Seeve And that’s no joke, man.
Correct
If you can walk away, then walk away.
If you cannot walk away, protect yourself.
If you can get away, but choose to "hit back ", you are defending your pride. You are out of line, especially if it is a woman you are hitting.
Striking back is the last resort and should be a controlled, calculated slap that would cause the least amount of harm and hopefully end the altercation.
A controlled, calculated slap will just escalate the situation without neutralizing the threat.
@@nikitab.6600 does "neutralizing the threat" means killing the other human being? Is that what you mean?
Ive never been that far in an argument with a woman, but what if the woman hits you and you just hold her arms so that she cannot continue attacking, that kind of shows your strength without dealing damage doesnt it?
Truth. Pure truth. As a mother of 2 very small children, I can attest to what he is saying.
I hate violence and I would avoid hitting anyone if at all possible.
If someone was threatening me or endangering me or someone I love I would try to diffuse the situation. If that fails I would hit the person and in this case I don't care what gender the person is. The only thing I would be concerned about is that I win the fight.
You've already proven you wouldn't be much good in a fight if you hate violence or can't be violent.
@Jon Lanier
The amount of information about me that you where able to extrapolate from my comment is staggering to say the least.
Absolutely impressive, one could almost say that you know more about me than I do.
The skill level that you exhibit is unprecedented and unmatched.
Jon you have to stop wasting your time and your talent farting around CZcams. You need to get your ass in to gear and work for the secret service. Your country is spending millions of dollars to train people and hone their skills. They have put together a team of of the nations most talented and experienced professionals but sadly for them to this very day they have never managed to even remotely approach the kind of ability that you possess.
Absolutely amazing. That is talent right there. You have to excuse me I just have a hard time to wrap my head around the idea that one single person could possess such a high level of skill.
If I didn't know any better I would have thought you where a psychic. But since psychics aren't real you must have taken a quantum leap in human intelligence leaving the rest of us behind in the dust.
It is simply beyond any normal persons comprehension as to how you can figure out so much stunningly accurate information about a person with so little information.
You don't have to like violence to be efficient at it. I adore violence, but in practical uses, I am hesitant to use it. Contradictory as that may seem, being non-violent in some situations is unavoidable. Protecting one's self is important, protecting others is just as important. Which is half the reason I learned what I have.
Babe, don't feel bad because of negative people. Do what you have to, to survive
@The Lingering Elf
That dude got a 4 paragraph response out of you with only one sentence. Why are you sou upset? Maybe you should let some rage out.
Fighting is actually a good way to let feelings out so you don't end up all passive-aggresive like that, try it. No seriousy, don't shun the evil part of yourself. It is to be recognised and accepted.
@ Cameron J. Wallace
True, you are right. to be efficient at violence is a very valuable security asset and one does not need to like it in order become good at it .
Your stance on the use of violence is perfectly reasonable.
I hope I never have to use it but unfortunately there are some assholes on this world that are gagging for it. Violent encounters are always dangerous and someone and sometimes even both parties can wind up with permanent physical impairment. When someone forces violence on us or someone else and diplomacy or avoidance fails, being efficient at violence can be our saviour.
As a woman, I can see where he's coming from... But I learned at a young age how to protect myself, despite my mother's aversion to violence. The pressure points, the weakest places to hit (no, not below the belt), and importantly, the sharpest words to end a fight.
I don't have to use this knowledge. The fact I know it is evident before a fight ever occurs. Ever.
To a point where I no longer understand the problems of women today. I can't relate. They hate me for it. Because I have an answer, a quip, a reaction that shuts down anything thrown at me.
And I realize it doesn't work for everyone... Probably due to "anxiety" levels from being "threatened". If properly practiced, it DOES work.
I learned cooking easily because I know how to use a knife and because Biology II forced me to learn things I didn't want to. I learned to be mouthy because the world calls for it... But I learned kindness and patience because of it too.
In the words of Anita Blake "My father had taught me to be nice first, because you can always be mean later, but once you've been mean to someone, they won't believe the nice anymore. So be nice, be nice, until it's time to stop being nice, then destroy them."
That’s great but yeah, like the other poster states, unless you are extremely strong and well trained, a teenage boy can beat most women. Its just how it is. Any girl that goes to the gym can immediately see the strength difference is massive and any girl ‘training’ in any fighting style can immediately see the difference in power needed to throw or block someone.
You have good points, and I appreciate you taking the time to respond. You're absolutely correct, and I realize that. Men do have size and power on their side; that will never change.
Which is why I like to study tai chi and other martial arts styles that focus on fluid movements and defense. Not to mention that it helps with confidence, which I've noticed does help on a psychological level.
I am not an outwardly violent person. I have been in a couple... I wouldn't call them fights, per se, but a few altercations, in my younger days. Now I've mellowed down, but I keep the mindset, and I think it shows when people make me angry. However, I choose to say "How about we talk about this" in a wwy that kinda implies the other option is like ticking off the Hulk, and so far so good.
But as far as "sneak attacks" like we women are supposed to fear... I hate that I have to walk with my keys in my hand, I hate that I have to carry a box cutter on me unless I need to go through a metal detector (DSS has one). But I do, because MAYBE it could happen and I need to be ready... But it never does. So far so good, I suppose. In fact, unfortunately, most seem to be quite taken with me.
I'm not exactly social, but for some reason, I never seem particularly threatened by men... If anything, I tend to piss women off a lot more. But that's because I hate them, and there's no cure for it. I don't connect with them, and for some reason, they don't like "looking at other perspectives" and like it or not, they act like superior assholes and/or professional victims.
I understand the threat is real, I understand that some people get very hurt, or killed, and I sympathize... But that doesn't mean you live in fear, it means you lose that fear and learn to defend yourself and find that confidence. If not, you're a walking target.
Cameron J. Wallace that’s cool. I see with feminism and girl super hero movies, there are really girls that believe they are tough. And then they get hurt, put themselves in situations, or worse. Its the absurd, and comical situation. I like the act, it’s cool and sexy, as long as it’s an act and they know it.
What do you do when you're not talking about yourself?
Richard Sharp sleep soundly, work a great job, inspire my friends, writing a novel at the moment, sing, dance sometimes, clean my house, read interesting books, do quite a bit of walking in a day...
Don't act like you ain't got stories and opinions bro.
They may not do the same physical harm, but women still shouldn't hit men. Nobody should hit their partner.
Peterson never says this. Never. It would have been so easy.
Up until the balls.
I'll take smacks, punches, and kicks from a woman, mostly because it's more adorable to me than anything. I have a very particular thing I want out of life though, and if you put that in danger I'll drop you like fine china.
Grumblebuggy Spergamatron hitting someone in the balls is a dick move.
Someone hits me there, I take that personally,
not me man, women in this day and age want equality, that means you don't touch me and i won't touch you, you put your hands on me without my consent, man or woman, and i will put you in the hospital. this is my body not your's so hands off.
Either a man or a woman, if someone hits you, you fight back.
I'm gonna keep it short.
A man who says he would never hit a woman has not been hit ENOUGH by a woman.
This is coming from a dude who's ex-girlfriend came to his apartment, drunk, KICKED the door in like the police, and tried to bash me in the head with an ashtray.
The was not the first time she put her hands on me. The first 4 times, I just covered my head and told her to stop.
After the last fight I gave her a black eye and deleted her from my life.
Even though she is a very attractive girl, she still stalks me to this day and I have restraining order against her.
Please, no one should hit anyone. period.
When I was a teenager I had to defend myself
I was a boy in bad shape, and overweight at the time. There was a group of girls who bullied me almost daily. I had more muscles than them. But they were in good condition and quick on their feet, they ran after me to bully me. I stood pressed in a corner, didn't protect myself, terrified of what consequence it could give me, but one day I had enough. I stood pressed in a corner. Got kicked and punched, the girls gave all their muscle power, my lips were bloody, and I was covered in bruises. Finally, I kicked carefully and gently pushed them away from me. I jacked myself down to their physical muscle level, if it was a person as strong as me, or stronger than me I would have given all my muscle power, but here I took their physical level into account.
I was punished by the teacher, he logged a note of unacceptable behavior from me , I said to the teacher "look how bloody and swollen my lips are", the teacher said that I had to deal with it, because they "had every right to defend themselves", they turned the situation around as if I had attacked them
When someone slap or touch you, male or female, it's very difficult to keep cool even if you're in an "good average" of self-control, it's even not really about self-defense or protect you...it's about physical agression and reflexes.
One of most revealing moments was when a "partner" now Ex suddenly turned ` physically psycho` with me when inebriated by alcohol: Although they must be taken serious; to me; one time emotionally charged challenges of this type seem to be a natural experience in the human psyche as we develop:
But right then I knew immediately she was changed and so was I; but as I know cooler heads prevail; and usually if you test the situation for what its worth long term:
I waited a day or so; she came to me; we discussed it; got to the root of it in due course and laughed about it even to this day in a mocking kind of way:
Although we went our separate ways a long time later; that one "negative" thing was turned right on its head and the discussions we had about it revealed a lot of previous unknown issues we BOTH had: Also it furthered our separate understanding for future relationships:
Needless to say; it takes great patience and understanding not to let one "psycho" drink fueled moment cause the end of everything positive you both have and worked for:
If its not up for honest discussion; therein lies deeper problems ahead of you both and will in-evidently end intimacy and your relationship:
I know of friends who tried the patience approach but it went drastically wrong because of variables like they thought about it too much; took it too personal; or either partner did it more than one time and no less than it becoming a routine: Toxic as they say:
In my opinion: Once is a mistake; because twice is simply taking the piss:
Alcohol is a troublemaker. Like you said though, if you share your life with somebody, weird shit is bound to happen.
My ex bitch-slapped me full force once, and later that year I made an ass off myself by grabbing her throat, choking and threatening her. We were drunk and 19 years old both times
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My transgression was obviously worse, I was blackout drunk and out of control. Didn't feel nice either; finishing high school, you and a girl experiencing early adulthood together, then over night your self image switches to "Abusive monster". I mean, who wants to be *that* guy? .
Neither of us assaulted the other ever again the coming 4,5 years though.
+Flying Dude CommenT-art
I think thats the main point of sharing life: So that things happen which cannot happen when you dont share life/experience with another human: Especially with someone you have made shared promises with because you are both intimate with one another: Promises are basically premises:
Alcohol consumed immaturely is done to "cope" or hide their sober self: But made worse when someone has underlying issues; which can be dangerous or turn out to be quite healthy; depending on how patient/understanding the other person is with them and if they are capable of being empathetic with them ONE TIME - EACH:
Alcohol enhances and feeds large egos; hence the name "dutch courage"
If a situation develops; you should never react; but act accordingly:
Simply wait so you can then examine it all after the fact: Like what brought this heated scenario about and very importantly is what age are you both: Younger than say 21 for example is a steep learning curve:
BUT: If neither party can discuss it; it will manifest later:
IMO Once is a mistake; but twice is taking the piss:
PS +Flying Dude CommenT-art
Congrats for recognizing a situation and sorting it out:
This will also serve you both very very well later in life:
Thank you for the words.
Never a problem: Thank You for your engaging in a conversation:
I hope all works well for you:
You too man.
Would you watch a grown woman punching, kicking or using a weapon against a small child, or against any other person who was clearly unable to fend off her assault?
It is a moral imperative to protect the victim, even when their tormentor is a woman.
One of my greatest regrets in life was not doing enough to protect my aging parents from my eldest sister who was an abusive battleax. Yet my parents were unwilling to sign off on social services to take care of the problem, so I washed my hands of it.
I don't remember having ever to hit a woman.
The last time I hit a girl, I think I was 12 and she was 14. She was bullying the boys and being taller and older than anyone of us. One day she went after me and instead of submitting, I faced her. It was the last time she bullied anyone of us. I think losing the fight against a boy younger, shorter and lighter than her made her think again.
Later as teenager, after puberty, indeed, girls can't harm you if they try to punch. Those who try are more likely to hurt themselves than hurting you.
The only way for girls/women to inflict some pain is pinching or scratching. You catch their wrists and immobilize them. It upset them, but they get the message that trying anything physical is useless.
As a teenager, when I was really pissed off and wanted to drive scratching and pinching female friends crazy without hurting them, I catched them by the wrists, joined both of their wrists in my right hand and showed them that with my free left hand, I could do anything I wanted to them, by tickling them. They went in absolute rage when they experienced that not only they were 100% powerless when it come to inflicting physical pain, that it made me laugh instead, and that they punching me was the same as me tickling them.
After that, as an adult, I don't remember any situation when I had to or wanted to fight or hit a woman. It simply never occured. Except in some war or shoot out situation, I can't think of any situation where I would want or need that.
🤣🤣🤣 yeah it's annoying for us indeed. But that's the best thing to do.
Am I supposed to believe that right before this video, someone asked him "Would you ever hit a woman?" This title is not only clickbait, it misrepresents the speaker.
My coach always tells me to treat women equally. No matter if a man or woman threatens me, I should react to both the same way. First try to talk but if it doesn't work, just hit them in the face.
I know I have the right to defend myself if a woman hit me. However, something just doesn't feel right about throwing a punch back at someone smaller than me. It's like knocking out an angry child punching wildly out of frustration. I'm not really in any danger if she continues hitting me but if I threw a couple punches in return I just might cause serious damage, maybe even lethal. I'd rather move away and deescalate the situation. There's no justice in getting a punch in because I probably wouldn't even need to. If it's gonna be a guy though, I'm going all in because my life would legitimately be in danger.
thank you for being one person here with some sense. It's never ok for anyone to hit anyone and a woman should never hit a guy, but the truth is that hitting back is not like for like and it's total crap that a man would need to throw a punch back purely for self defence. Restrain them and then break up with them.
You deserve the nobel prize of this comment section
When I was a teenager I had to defend myself
I was a boy in bad shape, and overweight at the time. There was a group of girls who bullied me almost daily. I had more muscles than them. But they were in good condition and quick on their feet, they ran after me to bully me. I stood pressed in a corner, didn't protect myself, terrified of what consequence it could give me, but one day I had enough. I stood pressed in a corner. Got kicked and punched, the girls gave all their muscle power, my lips were bloody, and I was covered in bruises. Finally, I kicked carefully and gently pushed them away from me. I jacked myself down to their physical muscle level, if it was a person as strong as me, or stronger than me I would have given all my muscle power, but here I took their physical level into account.
I was punished by the teacher, he logged a note of unacceptable behavior from me , I said to the teacher "look how bloody and swollen my lips are", the teacher said that I had to deal with it, because they "had every right to defend themselves", they turned the situation around as if I had attacked them
well said my man
You can’t always run away. Its not always possible, I wrote an other comment to your comment. Read it, and you will understand my point of view!
All he said was that its okay for women to hit men cause its not fatal, but not okay for men to hit back because it can be fatal. WHATS THE DISLIKES FOR?
As a woman listening to this, he's spot on. this is where I steer away from that equality thing that feminists try to push on western culture, not everything is concrete in nature, ESPECIALLY when it comes to relationships. Because no, a punch from a woman to man's chest is in NO WAY THE SAME as a punch from a man to a woman's chest. It's not that straightforward
My little brother and I have a great relationship now to the point where it's basically unconditional bonding that we have, because we have been able to lay on each other for support and see the worst sides of each other and move beyond that. He's verbally a lot more aggressive than me, but I am much more hands on than he is. I'll hug him as many times as I'll hit him lightly just in the playful going of the conversation. Heck, when we've argued, I've even slapped him once in a while here, but never once has he hit me. There was something I was getting out of hitting him, just a frustration release, but there was nothing he was getting out of hitting me back. It's not weakness, it's knowing that he's stronger than me and yet holds back which tells ME how much tolerance and discipline he has.
At times like that, we would let it go, and then later I would feel like absolute sh*t and console him and make up for it by making his favorite food or something like that.
And when he was abused by his girlfriend for all the wrong reasons, I punched her good as well. First I slapped him for having bad taste, then punched the b*tch for actually thinking she could do that to my brother.
There was a guy at work one of the girls are deaf she was right beside him and he punched her hard into her arm
The next time it happens I'm going to get him arrested he cant be going around and punching old women
When I was a teenager I had to defend myself
I was a boy in bad shape, and overweight at the time. There was a group of girls who bullied me almost daily. I had more muscles than them. But they were in good condition and quick on their feet, they ran after me to bully me. I stood pressed in a corner, didn't protect myself, terrified of what consequence it could give me, but one day I had enough. I stood pressed in a corner. Got kicked and punched, the girls gave all their muscle power, my lips were bloody, and I was covered in bruises. Finally, I kicked carefully and gently pushed them away from me. I jacked myself down to their physical muscle level, if it was a person as strong as me, or stronger than me I would have given all my muscle power, but here I took their physical level into account.
I was punished by the teacher, he logged a note of unacceptable behavior from me , I said to the teacher "look how bloody and swollen my lips are", the teacher said that I had to deal with it, because they "had every right to defend themselves", they turned the situation around as if I had attacked them
Women is plural. Woman is singular. So it’s either; “Would I ever hit women?”, or “Would I ever hit a woman?”
I read that people who must correct grammar in social mediums have low self-esteem and its their way of bullying others.
You might be right lol. That wasn’t the intention, but ya got me there :)
When I was a teenager I had to defend myself
I was a boy in bad shape, and overweight at the time. There was a group of girls who bullied me almost daily. I had more muscles than them. But they were in good condition and quick on their feet, they ran after me to bully me. I stood pressed in a corner, didn't protect myself, terrified of what consequence it could give me, but one day I had enough. I stood pressed in a corner. Got kicked and punched, the girls gave all their muscle power, my lips were bloody, and I was covered in bruises. Finally, I kicked carefully and gently pushed them away from me. I jacked myself down to their physical muscle level, if it was a person as strong as me, or stronger than me I would have given all my muscle power, but here I took their physical level into account.
I was punished by the teacher, he logged a note of unacceptable behavior from me , I said to the teacher "look how bloody and swollen my lips are", the teacher said that I had to deal with it, because they "had every right to defend themselves", they turned the situation around as if I had attacked them
Shame on you Clash of Ideas, he never said anything about whether or not he would hit a woman; he just said that women are more aggressive and men do more damage when they're aggressive.
the title isn't click bait, it gives you the question, gives you the lecture and lets you figure it out yourself.
Pretty sure that's what university/college is.
He seems to be avoiding the serious domestic violence against women.
Can you provide a link to the full lecture? That would be really appreciated. Thanks
Where can I watch the full length video. This ends abruptly.
On Jordan Peterson's CZcams channel, there is a video playlist called Personality and Its Transformations 2016, or something like that. I'm not sure exactly what lecture it is, but this clip is from one of them.
The general rule is that you are entitled to use a reasonable degree of force to protect yourself and the people around you. What is a reasonable degree is measured in proportion to the force or threatened force that you are faced with. This means that you cannot injure your attacker if he or she is retreating, nor continue to apply force if it goes past the point of defence and becomes instead an act of retaliation or revenge.
A woman can hit a man as many times as she wants and get away with it, but if a man hits a woman he ends up in prison.
A freind of mine once said "It is always always always wrong to hit a lady, but a woman is only a lady if she's acting like it".
Facts!
Clickbait title... never gonna watch another of your videos
I had this girlfriend she abused me psychologically, things heated up and then she started hitting me. I responded with a slap and just went away.
As a woman I expect a man to protect themselves. Nobody should put hands on anyone... Like seriously!
In the course of my life, I have had a few situations where women, even a couple whom I did not know, have stood and screamed in my face. They were far more abusive and aggressive than any man would be.
When two men experience this level of anger and conflict, they are more likely to moderate their tone, because they know a punch in the face is an option. While they are yelling, they are thinking "is he about to pop me one?" Sometimes, it does lead to physical violence, but it is far more likely they will dial it back.
As a balance to the basic moral principle of "never hit a lady," women were expected to ACT like ladies. If it is never, ever acceptable for a man to strike a woman in anger (and I believe that), it is reasonable to ask women to refrain from conduct that would get a man a knuckle sandwich.
I've only had strange men scream at me, who knew I wouldn't punch them unlike a man, or even scream at them...because men escalate to physical violence at the drop of a hat. Women who get aggressive w/ men just have poor self-preservation instincts. I think men just rate aggressiveness from women as 100x more aggressive/hurtful (is it the insubordination? the betrayal of the expectation for coddling?) then when coming from men. It's like the children in the snow experiment, people told they were girls called it aggressive, people told they were boys merely described them as playful.
Men should be allowed to deliver a couple of slaps to assert dominance. Forget all that weakk "mlady" talk...
@@cheezedoodlenygguh6229 It is a tempting proposition, but I refuse to play their game. Marxists WANT men to assault women. It is why they are constantly using mid-level violence.
Ridicule is a more effective weapon.
Jordan Peterson doesn't need clickbait titles to get views. You however need both Jordan Peterson AND clickbait titles to get views. How about you produce some content of your own?
If somebody tries to hurt me that person will catch these hands real quick
I think the most important segment here is what he says about the baby. Maybe because I'm a new father with a 7 month old who screams for mum when I've worked 3x15 hour days in a row and I raise my voice for her to stop (not often, I'm not a monster! I'm very human and it hurts a father that he can't be what mother can) . You can't "spoil" a baby, they only grow up with secure attachments if they know that their parents have their back. When they cry, comfort them; they didn't choose to be born.
All of this is making me crave a sandwich.
This comment is gold
MrSapper21 it actually is. After this beer
Fight me
PB&J yum
hunh?
Good lecture... click bait title.
If you're gonna start a fight with a man you better be able to take a hit from a man
Serious physical violence against women many times goes far beyond getting punched. So many women are shot, stabbed and seriously beaten to death but their mates. I don't agree that women are just as violent as men. Women could use guns to shot their mates if they are violent. You hear more about men shooting women, (this has nothing to do with body strength) so can't agree that women have more aggression than men.
I hit one woman. She on the other hand was beaten by every serious boyfriend she ever had. I was the 12th at the time. I knew her next two boyfriends and whitnessed her do to one of them what she did to me and im telling you it was an evil practiced skill. First she waited for the right time. Tired or bothered about something already. Then some nagging untill she sensed the right moment. Then the attack. Whatever your most vulnerable point is she had it dialed in and stomped on it. It was amazing to see this from both sides. I dont know how common this is but it should be studied and men should be warned.
Quite common, speaking from personal experience.
Some people are terribly good at this. My twin sister would do this when we were small children (ie: pre-teen) and my mother wised me up at some point. When I see adults do this (both genders by the way, though predominately women likely for the reasons discussed in this video) I shake my head. Same for the people who let it happen.
It is a strange phenomena though, since as a child I have no idea where she would have learned that... analysing it in hindsight it seems almost natural.
Look up Erin Pizzey, she has a number of interviews talking about this exact kind of situation.
my ex best girl friend was amazingly skilled at goading men into hitting her. she was extremely manipulative. i loved her like a sister and we had so much fun together, but she was an incredibly toxic person. I had to "break up" with her after she got the shit beat out of her by her last ex, who already had a history of physically hurting women. they were such a scary couple together, their fights were epic and often ended up with someone in handcuffs or a trip to the hospital. I'll never understand why she thought that was a good strategy, to irritate the fuck out of the men she loved so that they would hit her... it was like she could put these men under a spell or a trance, they'd fall head over heels in love with her, but then they'd end up beating her. I just don't get the point of fucking with another humans emotions to such extreme levels of love and hate. it would fuck any person up, man or women, and thats why i had to remove her from my life.
im very curious where these chicks learn this psycho-cunt manipulative pussy magic behavior, and what they think it's going to accomplish for them in the long term. it's a dangerous game and they have no one to blame more than themselves.
Royer 714 Royer 714 I've seen it too. Where as on the other hand I once had a gf get mad at me for laughing at her during a fight. I was sitting down with my hands full because I was eating dinner and she just threw her hardest punch right against my face, which is actually pretty hard. I've always regreted not calling the cops on her for that because she ended up being the most fucked up person I've ever met.
Theory is one thing-in reality a much bigger, stronger woman could be slapped by a weaker man and society would still attack and condemn him. If a weaker man assaulted a much larger man and was knocked unconscious when the larger man retaliated there would be no negative consequence for the larger man despite his superior strength. This clearly shows that the whole not ion of "never hitting a woman" has never really been about disproportionate strength and more about the seemingly ingrained belief that women are more precious and valuable than men and to hit someone with a vagina is regarded as an evil act in our society.
I can think of many examples where a man would be justified in hitting a woman but most people react in horror at the mere expression of this belief.
not that women understand it will do little damage, but that they think they can get away with it. based on old ideas of chivalry, etc. I explained to my wife that the 'gentleman' allows the adversary to choose the weapons, but after the 'rules of engagement' are set, one must play by the rules. In other words: "You don't want to go there, and if you have any sense at all, you won't, for I assure you, if you start a physical conflict, it will not end well for you." (and she believed me.-- we have had disagreements, but we don't fight physically)
If i feel that ANYTHING is a threat to my wife, child, or myself i would mercilessly destroy it without a second thought. Sure i might feel bad about it later but that's nothing compared to how you would feel if you failed to protect your family.
ian that's if you could
I so agree, woman are easily more vicious. At the hospital I trained as a nurse, we had many drunks showing up for all the many physical ailments that they necessarily contract. When they went into the delirium tremens, they would of course get physical if you couldn't get the meds into them quick enough. While a man would get agitated, he wanted YOU out of the way. They want to get out of the hospital IMMEDIATELY, clothes or no clothes. I've been pushed to the floor more than once. But once you get out of their way, they just run.
With a woman there were NO boundaries! I've been strangled, punched in the face, dragged about for twenty minutes straight, and struck with a phone (not a cell, kids, a real solid old fashioned bakelite deal that weighed several pounds) on who knows how many occasions. In every single episode there was fear in the man's eyes and viciousness in the woman's. An encounter with a man would last fifteen or so minutes (then the meds kick in), with a woman we were in for the kind of fight that only deep sea fishing enthusiasts know about, at least three times longer than the man! Thank GOD I don't have to deal with THAT anymore.
How about a small weak man, is that the same as hitting a women? no? should it be?
No, is he weak because of illness? Then it's hitting a cripple which is it's own ethical circumstance. Has he neglected exercising and getting in shape? I guess it's victim blaming, but sorry guy you ought to at least be able to defend yourself if you're capable, have some backbone and self respect. Even short men have a significant advantage in upper body strength compared to women. It's not a fair fight still, but in that sense it's a win win for the small guy, he either wins and is a really big badass for it or he loses and everyones on his side because he got beat up by a bigger dude. It's not the same and it shouldn't be. That being said, if the shorter guy doesn't want to fight and is trying not to, assuming the strangers near him aren't cowards/the big dude doesn't look lethally dangerous then they are just as likely to step in to protect him as they would a woman in danger it's just that we allow the short guy the opportunity to defend himself if he so chooses while we stop things before blows are made if possible if a woman's threatened because one solid hit to the head could be lethal for her.
The action of being hit in the head can be lethal to anyone. As far as I know males haven't got a better ability to take a punch. I think the main difference is gender, I think that's the bigger issue over size, strengthen & training. I don't know if it's correct to think like that.
Yes, don't hit those who are weaker than you. Unless they hit first, then you can hit back.
Yes, don´t hit anyone in the first place. Unless they hit you first. Or if they have kidnapped you, and you hit them in order to escape. Or if they shoot into a crowd with a machine gun. Or something extreme like that.
small weak man as in a small framed SICK man? i wouldn't hit a guy who was sick. but men, biologically & physically speaking, are broader shouldered and have more muscle mass regardless of their frame/height. so it's really not comparable to him being a 'woman'.
Treat a person the way they want to be treated.
If a person wants to act like a fighter, they want to be treated like one.
If a woman attacked me, the only way I wouldn't hit her back is if I knew and cared about her. If a frail weak guy hits another guy and gets knocked out, everyone says he got what was coming to him. When a woman gets hit, everyone freaks out. Not about them being weak, it's about people thinking they need to protect women.
If you read youtube comments, you would know that a large amount of men think it's perfectly alright to hit women. It's actually uncommon for me to find men on youtube that actually think male violence against women is wrong.
I wouldn't hit back cause I am a level headed stronger being. I hold their arms to keep them from hitting me cause lets be honest its like little pecks. no strength what so ever. Its like if old man came to me and hit me I would not hit him back cause of same reason. Men have great strength you need extreme maturity and responsibility cause it can do damage I think it sounds immature and juvenile to hear you all say if they hit me I am hitting them back. Be a mature man.
What if a small weaker man was to attack you. Would you still not attack back because you're a stronger being?
My gf is a tai Kwon do champion in Korea, I do hit her. She hits me back. I show her how to hit harder she shows me how to hit faster. We spar. I'm bigger and stronger even though she is more skilled, I always hurt her. I really limit my power. Couples should learn to fight together. It takes away aggression, if you hurt your sparring partner it is always accidental. You say sorry and do again.
Yeah sorry not everyone is comfortable with learning martial arts beyond basic self defense courses and I'd argue there could be some serious drawbacks if either of you get angry during a sparring match. I have a couple friends who did amateur mma and they refuse to do a full match with eachother or more than slight sparring because they can't help but start to hate their opponent if they're pushing themselves to their limit and they're scared that could ruin their friendship. Just some thoughts on this it's not for everybody but for those who are into that it could be beneficial in a really unique and fundamental way.
the problem there is she learned tai kwon do which is a loa of wank. get her doing boxing or bjj
Does she hurt you, too?
That's BS. When a petite woman gives me a light slap on the arm in anger it's more cute than violent, it's just a way of expressing disagreement, anger and other similar emotions. Like Jordan said, they know it doesn't hurt and I won't slap her back because that might hurt. But I don't like when my gf was to hit me for fun. Not my thing. You do that with friends sometimes in this kind of "I love to hate you" relationships and that's fine(tho' other people won't like it) but that's different. And it's not about being angry at eachother after you spar it's just because I don't want to do it. One of my friends is an MMA amateur master in my country and in one of the tournaments he and his good friend were to fight in final match. They didn't. They did a straw poll for 1st and 2nd place. Not because they would hate eachother but do you imagine beating your friend possibly to the point where he/she bleeds? Because I don't. Calling my best friend a bitch in a joke feels just bad and awkward. Kind of thing I would never say seriously. If I was to hit her my brain would try to stop me with all the available impulses.
If a girl slaps my arm, depending on how she does it, I try to match it.
I raised two wonderful real men. I taught them never to strike a woman, even when attacked or provoked, except to defend themselves. Because the men ALWAYS come out on the wrong end of the stick. One day my 16 yr old younger son's "girlfriend" hauled off and smacked him in front of everyone in the school cafeteria. He told me he remembered what I taught him, and did not retaliate. She lost my son and the respect of everyone.
The biggest revenge is to not become like that.
When I was a teenager I had to defend myself
I was a boy in bad shape, and overweight at the time. There was a group of girls who bullied me almost daily. I had more muscles than them. But they were in good condition and quick on their feet, they ran after me to bully me. I stood pressed in a corner, didn't protect myself, terrified of what consequence it could give me, but one day I had enough. I stood pressed in a corner. Got kicked and punched, the girls gave all their muscle power, my lips were bloody, and I was covered in bruises. Finally, I kicked carefully and gently pushed them away from me. I jacked myself down to their physical muscle level, if it was a person as strong as me, or stronger than me I would have given all my muscle power, but here I took their physical level into account.
I was punished by the teacher, he logged a note of unacceptable behavior from me , I said to the teacher "look how bloody and swollen my lips are", the teacher said that I had to deal with it, because they "had every right to defend themselves", they turned the situation around as if I had attacked them
if someone is hitting you, you have every right to defend yourself. the thing people have trouble with is retaliating with an appropriate amount of force. If a woman starts slappin you and shes flying off the handle, maybe don't automatically go with a right hook. odds are you could probably just physically restrain her until she calms down.
or just bend her over.
but that's totally different kind of "fight"
Right. Like if a child kicked me in the shins I wouldn't KO them. Proportional force, and defense not retaliation.
Only if they fit both of the following criteria:
Hit me first
Are a feminist (this is because they claim men and women are the same.)
So if a non feminist constantly bashes you over the head you'd be fine?
Women: we deserve equal rights.
Degenerates: so I get to hit you?
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I would like an opinion on this:
I had an argument with my husband. He had betrayed my trust in pretty awful manner so I was furious. I was yelling at him, asking why he did what he did. I lost control of myself for a second, and bitch-slapped him quite hard, then I felt bad and collapsed on the couch and started crying.
My husband then grabbed my throat and choked me. This happened without a warning, he didn't say anything, didn't punched a wall or do anything that might've indicated that he was furious. I got really scared, when he finally stopped choking me I asked "What the fuck?!" or something along those lines, I don't remember. Then he started to beat me with a vacuum cleaner. I had lots of bruises all over my body. It was really scary situation, I thought he was going to kill me.
My husband thinks that this is my fault, because I hit him first, and because I hit him so hard. Of course he doesn't think that what he did was right either. But if one of us is at fault here, it is me in his opinion.
And I don't think it was justified to me to slap him, it was wrong. I regret it.
I have always thought that I shouldn't hit men, because they can't hit me back or because they can kill me if they decide to hit me back. It's not balanced, so it would be unfair to make that situation happen. But I have always thought that fighting escalates little by little. First you yell, then you push each other, then you throw few punches and the force increases each time, until you're beating the crap out of each other.
If my husband pushed me, like really hard, and I fell on the floor, or was pushed against the wall, I would ask what is wrong. I would try to use my words. And by pushing I mean JUST pushing, once, because of moment of rage. Because you instantly know whether someone lost control for a while or whether they are going to attack you again.
I am very sure that I didn't give any indication that I was going to assault my husband, when I slapped him. If he had just slapped me or pushed me back, or maybe thrown something at me, I wouldn't blame him. But what he did.. I think it was pretty out of the line.
Note: I am not violent person. Not including this incident, I have hit someone only once before; my dad, when I was a teenager. He threw me on the wall, and dragged me across the floor by pulling me by my hair. Pretty much did anything but hit me. So I slapped him across the face, I just wanted to see how he'd react if I'd fight back, and of course I was pretty angry at the moment.
So, any thoughts? Am I totally wrong about everything? Did I do something extremely horrible? If I did, why, and in what sense.
I'd say both of you fault. People don't fight for no reason. There must be built up negativity over time for him even to want to hit you back. He wasn't hurt physically, its the psychological abuse that he felt which your slap represented to him. Then when he saw you collapse in crying he thought "weak spiteful bitch I hate her, she's not getting away with this!" and then the events ensued. That's my thoughts on what might have happened. Men can control woman physically. But woman can control men psychologically. You must understand that woman are like a drug to men. I'm not defending him for beating you, but I think it's unlikely that you had nothing to do with him beating you. This is the harsh truth I think. Woman are not blameless in domestic violence as the feminist professors would have us believe.
Nikki Sotku talk it out.
First welcome to the mens world.
"First you yell, then you push each other, then you throw few punches and the force increases each time, until you're beating the crap out of each other."
This really shows that women don't know how physical conflicts go. Once things get physical the fight is on. When you feel pain the adrenalin kicks in and then anything can happen. No matter how subtle the hit looked.
Men understand this quite well. Only woman can hit someone and don't expect to get hit back. Why do you think weak nerds don't pick fights with big MMA fighters no matter how pissed they are? Dont hit someone that you think you cant beat in a fight.
Just go watch any street fight. Most of the time the guys swing big KO punches at each-other from the beginning. Your view of the world is pretty naive. You should read the terrifying books that Peterson recommends for your own good. People are dangerous.
M Tichý Ah yes, Peterson's recommended reads. I stopped parkway through Gulag Archipelago. Gave me nightmares.
Also Nikki I recommend listening to Karen Straughan, you could learn a lot about woman's psychology from her.
You cannot ever hit a woman. Legally if you do here in the UK, even if you've been hit repeatedly by a woman before-hand, you will end up in prison.
Yes he would. Somebody with high intelligent as him will easily say yes.
Exactly i love guys likes you but there are simps obviously
Reading the comments section I realized that some men will actually like hitting women, am I wrong?
Petersons fans love making jokes about that. In another thread they found child abuse funny. They are all scum.
Boys and girls are different way before puberty.
Would you like to present some of them?
If you are asking, it probably means that you haven't got any children, and do not work with them. But before the age of 4, their behaviour are noticeably different. They are attracted to different games and activities. They develop usually also at a different pace. Girls tend to talk earlier, boys are physically more active ( Of course, we are talking in terms of statistics, they are always girls or boys who do not fit into these average). When it comes to biology or neurology, boys and girls before the age of 5 are already affected by different disorder ( for example autism affects much more boys than girls). I agree that probably one of the biggest influence on our gender are hormones. But hormones affect are development from conception. They determine our sex, and probably our sexual orientations. And then life and experience reinforce our differences. But I believe, men and women are simply different from birth. And science support and his.
gerafina li That's not what Dr. Peterson is talking about. Of course boys and girls have different predispositions even when they're young, I think what Peterson is talking about is the difference in physical makeup / body strength etc.
It's clear that you must have typed this statement 10 seconds into watching the video.
He was talking about size, not behaviour.
If a woman can commit assault against me then I can do the same to her. Don’t put yourself in a man’s shoes and you won’t have to see IF he can control himself
I grew up knowing to never pick a fight with someone bigger than me, the road is for cars and if I get hit by a car its my fault, never start a fight but you can always retaliate.
The title isn't necessarily misleading. Could be argued it's simply a newspaper headline-like approach to communicate the gist of the lecture. strike a chord, or provoke some kind of interest based on the tantalizing question: Would I Ever Hit a Woman?
P DB newspapers invented click bait.
They say things like "drug addict looses sense of smell from overdose" when that's just a moment in their story of recovery.
It creates false assumptions dependent on reading the article for context. Otherwise people are left to assume or associate the title with a bias. They may think " Addicts, why do they do this craziness" or " "surely there's more to the story, why are people with substance disorders painted negatively. Bahh, news outlets don't seek truth. Can't trust news 'FAKE NEWS' " lol.
It's no different than advertisers making crazy claims and we say "their just trying to sell a product."
This headline is either grammatically incorrect and should read from the perspective of the poster- Why I dont hit women (Peterson explains gender differences) or they intended to elude to Peterson making the comment.
Either way- the one perspective was wholly derived from the one illustration on male physique used to highlight the differences between genders after puberty.
P DB you're reading some fuxking hideous newspapers id that's what you got from this
It absolutely is. In this video, Jordan doesn't at any point say anything at all about what he would or wouldn't do. He is speaking hypothetically about how the two genders on average have a differing relationships towards violence. A woman can be violent towards a man on a whim because it's like a child being violent towards their parents. It's not in any way okay but it also doesn't have very large consequences. A man hitting a woman can have enormous consequences, to the point where a single punch can seriously injure or even kill a woman if the man is powerful enough. Therefore men are usually more careful with throwing punches, while some women think they can just punch away at anyone they disagree with.
It's the same reason women are more careful with sex than men. The consequences for them are higher.
Jordan's title is not misleading. The title is: "would I ever hit a woman?" He answered it by saying very clearly no. Because, when when boys become pubescent they start to build upper-body strength, which is much different from pubescent girls bodies. And, as they develop into adults, the differences become more remarkable. Men develop incredible upper body strength compared to women. If you don't understand that common, clear thought go back and re-listen to his lecture. It's so simple. It's not clickbait. It's just that you're not listening and comprehending this very simple lesson.
I'm afraid it is clickbait. Even though Clash of Idea's title is _partially_ answered by the excerpt of the lecture, it isn't the question the lecture was _meant_ to address. The lecture is titled "Agreeableness." It's a discussion of different psychological tendencies between the sexes, particularly as relates to how they handle conflict, not a personal discussion of whether Jordan Peterson is willing to inflict physical harm on women. And that particular question is never explicitly posed by Peterson here.
I suspect that if you asked him the question directly, he'd probably instead try to define the conditions under which he would not and the conditions under which he would. For an extreme example, I doubt Peterson would be opposed to hitting a woman who is threatening someone with a knife or in other situations where defense is required.
This title couldn't really be MORE misleading-he doesn't answer the question at all. Typical objections would be: a) a man hitting a woman back can use the same force/strength as she has used on him, b) it depends whether self-defense issues are involved, c) it depends whether she's intending violence to a third party. Basically women should be treated like weak men-whom one can surely also 'hit' or 'hit back', depending on what they're attempting.
There is no excuse for ever hitting a woman. There is a size differential, heavier, and stronger in men vs. women. If a man his a woman, he can actually kill her. This is not so if women hit men.
Again, LISTENING SKILLS are ESSENTIAL in listening to Peterson's lecture here.
+Laura Allison
Given that I'm very underdeveloped muscularly and have never punched anyone in my life and am not very big at all, your argument that I could kill a women by hitting her doesn't apply to me any more than it does to other women. (Most women are probably stronger than I am.) Does that make it okay for me to hit a woman, particularly one that's bigger and stronger than me?
Let's consider a hypothetical. A man is standing beside an armed woman. She's not threatening him, but she's threatening his wife. Say she's his ex-girlfriend who is literally insanely jealous. He can either hit her and take the gun, thereby minimizing the risk to everyone (and especially to his wife), or he can not hit her because there's a chance he could kill her and let her continue to endanger his wife. Is it okay for him to hit the aggressor?
Peterson isn't saying you never hit a woman even under the most extreme circumstances. He's talking about averages and adaptive pressure on our biology, and that's a different question entirely.
BladeOfLight16 not only are you underdeveloped physically but your brain seems to be underdeveloped as well. You have no listening or comprehension skills and listening to dr. Jordan Peterson and what he is talking about. I'm not going to sit there and discuss hypotheticals with you or specifics about your underdeveloped body. We are talking specifically about what he is talking about that men are typically stronger and bigger than women. And that even if a woman hit a man with Force the likelihood that she would kill him by hitting him hard would do fairly little damage period compared to a average man who, if he hit a woman with full force might likely kill her.
Bottom line is as a woman I would not hit an elderly person unless I was straight up defending myself and had to but I would keep it under control and not use too much force. Ironically but not surprisenly, I have seen the vile comments from men who want to hurt women simply because they say something they didn't like. These men wish they could get away with it- saying things like " equal rights equal fights" but if a man is twice a women's strength. He should defend himself with reasonable force (In fact, that's how self defense is described in the law itself)
versus find a excuse to hurt her with the pleasure. "Men just want to protect women." Says Andrew Tate who, jokes about beating women. "Women have no accountability" say the men who when confronted with violent and sexual crime statistics say: "Thats false." (3x) while refusing to look up the crime stats. I watched the podcast myself! You disappointed me Peterson.
It seems that there are many short videos of Jordan Peterson but where can we find full length videos of his lectures?
The saying is "Never hit a lady", not "Never hit a woman". A lady is a respectable woman. When that lady provokes a man, she is not a lady anymore, but a woman. That woman will be beaten up.
So if she acts exactly like you want her to you won't hit her. How kind.
I always say, if she goes full Bellatrix Le Strange, by all means, go full Order of the Phoenix on her
Not hitting a woman is sexism
This is why equality is impossible, in a good way.