This video and these responses have made it a rough day at Equipment Lock. We’re not some cold and uncaring multinational company. All our products are designed, engineered, and manufactured right here in Bedford, a small town in central Pennsylvania, by a team of people that are passionate about protecting our customer’s equipment. You could say we are taking this video personally. To be completely clear: We care deeply about our customers. We want to help stop theft. We are always looking for ways to improve our products. We are striving to be the best company in the world at what we do. While keyed locks are considered more secure than combination locks and cost less to manufacture, we listen to our customers and there was a very strong demand for us to create a product that featured the convenience of a changeable combo lock mechanism. We have a team working to find a way to make this combo lock mechanism more secure. Rest assured, we will be replacing this mechanism with a better assembly as soon as possible. While these videos can be helpful for companies like ours that are on a mission to help customers protect their equipment, providing how-to videos and selling tools to some that might have ill intent makes us a little wary. Thank you for your understanding as our team works to resolve the issue with our Model CDL-C cargo lock. Thank you, The Equipment Lock Company
I would be blunt and say did not you not test this lock before you sold it at the higher end price when the people on this channel spotted the obvious security flaws in it even before it was opened using a notch decoder? An A+ for trying to come over as humble, an F for the fact that you sold a high value product as a security device when someone with a sliver of tin could open it and quicker than using the combination code.
Well throwing shade at the LPL for selling tools is not making you look any better. Fact is one could use any thin piece of metal to reach inside and displace the locking bar. This is not an unknown attack vector for combination locks of this type. Your feigned surprise at this is really disingenuous. Decoding of wheeled combination locks has been around since wheeled combination locks were invented. There are many wheeled combination locks where decoding would work but this attack would not work as they protected the locking bar. You should stop selling this lock immediately and deploy a new core, something your letter leaves out. Applaud a response, but the tone of it undercuts your intention.
@@darreng745 We understand where you’re coming from. Rest assured that we’re working hard to replace this mechanism with a more secure assembly and will bring our grade way up.
@@AMD7027 We hear you. And we were shocked. We heard our customers when their demand for the convenience of combination locks was high and now we hear the LPL and all of you. Loud and clear. Know that we are working hard to replace this lock with a better assembly as soon as possible.
>sees a combination lock "He's going to notch decode it isn't he?" >takes out the notch decoder "Yup, it's all over." >just pulls on the lock to unlock it "...what."
To be fair, you also have to find out which bit is the notch decoder. Have you *seen* the covert companion? Last time I tried I got two wave rakes and a thing for digging stones out of a hoof, which I swear wasn't there originally.
The worst part about this is that, if someone didn't know you weren't authorized to access that container, and didn't know that it was a combination lock, this just looks like you're opening it with a key.
Agreed. While a 4 digit combination lock isn't that secure, spend too much time at the lock and you'll raise suspicions. Although, there's still the issue of what you do after you open it...
@@russellhltn1396 Those who open containers that do not belong to them most likely have no issue about what to do after opening it. I think they are gonna empty it.
@@bertjesklotepino I think they mean in the sense of emptying out a trailer in a truck-lot is gonna make security pretty suspicious of you. Typically you don't unload in a storage lot, and if it's out in the wild? Even a good lock isn't worth much without someone watching. Locks are only a delay to help security or the cops catch a thief, determined thieves will cut a hole in the container/trailer if they want the contents and the door is too hard to open.
@@kauske You don't unload, but you can be reasonably expected to want to take something from your trailer. Wear HiVis vest, open door, grab something not excessively big, but expensive, close and lock door, walk away. Nobody will bat an eye.
@@MiiNiPaa If it was small enough to talk off with, but valuable enough to be a problem if stolen? It would have a guard that would care. Shit that's left in those lockups are usually not super valuable. Even an iphone is of negligible value, despite the MSRP of over 1000 dollars. also, if you think that lot security wont question you rifling through shipping boxes to steal phones, you're pretty dumb. Trucks are unloaded at docks, not in the middle of a storage yard. If someone pinches a bunch of phones, security is gonna get shitcanned, and they know it. They will definitely bat an eye at some rando rummaging on a trailer lot.
I think the lock mechanism is a master lock. One that you can change the combo. I used to have one on my shed for over a decade. Then I found out about the problem. So I upgraded it to a key master lock. Nobody will get by that. (that's a joke, it will keep the local kids out)
Reminds me of a video on Viva La Dirt League where an NPC was offering all the contents of a chest to the player that could unlock it. There were about 50 different LPL comments (including me saying the player needed a Covert Companion) and a bunch saying that after the player breaks 100 picks getting in the chest will contain 2 lockpicks.
the most dense load ive ever had was 9k lbs of tungsten carbide. thats $90k in 3 55 gallon drums. i have a stake body si im not worried about people steeling things, but the point is that s $200 device should protect 100k in cargo in a van.
There is bad. And then there is awful. This was shockingly awful. Dear LPL seen many of your videos. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into making them. Best wishes from the UK.
The ridiculous thing is that purchasers of this overpriced $150 "lock" have to pay an extra $20 (on top of the $150) for this combination lock option (instead of the default keyed version).
I was sure this time the LPL had opened this lock that it was a fluke. But thankfully I was wrong and the LPL did prove it was not a fluke once again. I am so relieved and now can enjoy the rest of my day..stress and anxiety free.
The flukes are on key locks like the one sent from I think Germany with the unfortunate pin combination. Pretty sure he only had to set one pin. Add when he completely bypasses the lock mechanism it's just bad design or construction.
Suggestion: a video series where LPL showcases the best of every lock type, so we can actually know what good value locks there are out there. Call it "Bizarro Master Lock Series" or something like that.
Problem with that is he tries to stay away from simply recommending a lock. We know he’s not shy about recommending against some locks, but never will say “you should buy this one”. Most he’s said is things along he line of “I would be comfortable using this” or “this gave me a bit of difficulty”, which is the closest you get to a LPL recommend. But yes, I would be super interested in a series like this. I’d like to see a range from the best of the budget to midline and then the best if money was no object.
He has stated that he doesn't do recommendations. Reading between the lines (he IS a lawyer, after all), a recommendation does carry some potential for liability. If he recommends a lock, and someone has a loss when using that lock, it could come back on him. Not that it's likely, but you never know.
I wonder if he isn't building his reputation here on CZcams, to later reveal that he has developed his own superior LPL lock branded products... In which, I am totally in support of.
@@locke3141 Difficulty with suggestions like that would be: He looks at the locks mostly from the point of lockpicking, but there are other factors which makes a lock better or worse. There are mechanical attacks especially in times of battery powered grinders there are very few locks that can't be opened within seconds. And depending on what is protected with the lock, if it can be taken with the lock pic resistance is surely not the thing that will make the product safe/unsafe to use. Then there is also usability. If using the lock makes using the product more of a hassle, people will sometimes not use the lock, because of it. Let's take e.g. bike locks. If you have a 40kg lock you have to take with you in a backpack, chances are you will leave the lock at home. If it takes you 10 minutes tto attach all the locks you secure your bike with, chances are, you will not use all of the locks, if you just going inside of a store for half a minute. You also have to take in the risk factors, let us stay with the bikes. Your risk factor would be much higher if it is a 7000$ bike in a metropole than if you want to secure a 100$ bike in a rural area with low crime rates. And what kind of a lock makes sense in one scenario might be bad in the other one. Just from that I guess it is very difficult to recommend specific locks, without looking into the use case, especially if you are seen as the expert and people may trust you blindly and just buy the recommended product without looking if it is a good solution regarding all of the factors.
That's what they say about the Car Club devices. The pro car thieves know how to bypass the Club so you are better off using it to hit the car thief over the head with it, if you can.
Or two. Once opened (in less than one second even without the code) , voila' you wield the two halves and you have now two clubs, so this thing is a much better deterrent if left unlocked. 😁
A man runs into the Equipment Lock CEO's office: "Boss, a massive CZcamsr with millions of followers has done a video on our product!" The CEO: "That's incredible news!!" The now nervous sweating man: "It was the LockPickingLawyer." The CEO: "Oh..." Sweating man: "The video was less than 2 minutes long." The CEO: "Cancel the rest of my appointments. I'll be at the bar."
@@JayJoeJCJesh Respectfully, I disagree. Looks like typical Chinese powder-coat straight over the mill-scale formed when rolling the piece parts, it'll be mostly off in 12 months or less.
"Sir, so the villain's going to lock the hero's girlfriend in a cargo container suspended from a crane, and use this really prominent and complicated looking lock, and the hero's going to bust her out in seconds." "Wow, that sounds improbable. Aren't those container locks supposed to take expensive tools to break?" "Actually, sir, it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience...."
I love how LPL always "shows that it's not a fluke" even though we absolutely know that it's never a fluke! A man with serious skills and always happy to share the knowledge 👍
I think he does that to stop the trolls claiming that it's not a universal problem. Likewise, with his videos, where he buys multiple locks and picks them all. And, given how short his videos are becoming, it's probably a significant amount of his CZcams income! 🤣
Yep, we all knew what was coming... except the manufacturer, who apparently are so passionate about locks they don't have anyone there who watches lock channels on CZcams.
This needs one extra Lockpicking skill to open in an inconspicious manner: Taking longer than you'd actually need just so it looks like you're opening it legitimately.
Small addition, "timing" is in the general obfuscation skill tree. Simple bots are by their nature way faster then real attempts. In many cases that's even an economical decision to just be able to try more targets.
The worst cargo door lock ever was the one on the McDonnell Douglas DC10 which failed in-flight causing the cargo door to open during several flights causing catastrophe.
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 yeah but most lock indicators operate under the assumption that the door bas been properly latched before the lock is engaged. Like if you close you car door but it isn't latched you can still lock it and the indicator will still show that it is locked. Just user error, bit people expect inanimate objects to think for them.
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 again, latch vs lock. if the lock fails, an unauthorized person can unlatch the door. if the latch fails the door can open without anybody unlatching it.
Aside from the deficiencies of the actual lock, the product is prone to freeze solid if it is even damp when it drops below freezing and needs a propane torch to thaw it enough to open. They also rust internally. It needs to be screwed or tack welded to the container door if it will be used often as it jams on the locking bars once locked.
I wonder how often a company has just been flooded with complaint emails with a link to the video a day after it goes live. Must be a fun day at the service desk
As a trucker, I see these all the time. I was considering getting one. After seeing this video, I'm glad I didn't. Is there any chance of further disassembly so we can see if there is any way to replace that POS lock with something better (say, maybe an Abloy)? Thanks.
You could try to replace the lock of that thing with an abloy lock, or you could just buy another container lock, that already comes with an abloy. If they put such a crappy lock inside, chances are they did also cut some corners in the rest of the lock. I wouldn't trust that to withstand more physical attacks.
End of the day yes it's not going to resist a prolonged attack. However it is a "visual deterrent" This may prevent an opportunistic thief from having a go if other containers don't or are not secured in a similar fashion...
The lock mech appears to be a master lock changeable combo. Probably a model 175. It's like most locks. Someone going through a truck stop lot of trucks, they'd probably bypass that truck and go to an easier one unless they knew what was in it. If someone wants to get in you're not going to stop them. From acetylene torch to plasma torch.
I'm in the UK. Alot of European drivers park with one door open.. Apparently it's cheaper to let a Thief look inside rather than try to break in and do more damage
Heh, both comments are really telling. Reminds me of a friends neighbourhood where he left the car door unlocked with a note it was unlocked and empty. He got tired of paying for broken windows...
Ha. My Walmart has a ton of containers sitting out back with these locks. The containers also say “disable alarm before entering”. Security is an illusion and only to keep the honest man out. That was definitely laughable how insecure that expensive device was.
I bet that sign is just to make people think it's alarmed. I mean those trailers don't even have power running to them! Lol the same trailers at my Walmart too, but I'm not going to be the one to test my theory!
What I LOVE about this lock is the Fire Engine red color that signals every criminal "Hey, the stuff in this truck is expensive!" Saves the criminals time deciding which trailer to break into.
I was almost sure that he would use that silver screw on the front to just disassemble the lock in few seconds. My god, it turned out that this lock is even worse, kek.
@@AdministrativeReload You'd probably want to put a warning or the user will just use a Master or American one that can be opened even easier than the one in the video.
Our top priority is helping our customers prevent theft and we won’t stop until our products are airtight. While our combo locks are more expensive to reflect the higher demand we experienced, we’ll be replacing this mechanism with a more secure assembly.
Where I work, we just use zip ties with numbers on them and if the number on the zip tie doesn't match what's on the paperwork, that's when we know the load's been tampered with. We also have numbered zip ties at our location for when we send stuff back to them for the same security level.
I love watching your videos, and I have actually learned more than I realized. Me and my brother recently had to move 5 vehicles that were parked with no keys, and I was able to not only pick the door locks on 2 vehicles that were locked, but picked the ignition switches in 3 of the vehicles only using a makeshift turning tool and pick 👍🏻
One of the great things that I experienced while attending knob, Creek machine gun, shoot, was a lock picking vendor, showed me how to pick common residential door locks. But he also showed me this trick with the type of combination padlock that I use on my mini barn. I was blown away by the less than two second method that can be used to defeat these.
What may take longer than using the code, however, is flipping through the LPL's catalogue of hilariously bad lock exploits to select the best method of defeat.
We hear you. We do offer a keyed version which is less expensive, however, with such a high demand for the convenience of a combination lock, we felt we needed to address our customers' needs. We care deeply about our customers and the quality of our products, so our team is working hard to replace this mechanism and make it more secure.
@@theequipmentlockco Your just making it worse by sounding like a scam artist that got caught and saying their not a scam artist, better off just improving the product shipping it to people who brought the bad one. Case closed.
My friend Gary has just started university to study law in the UK, he is 32 and has been a locksmith for the past 12 years since he finished his apprenticeship. Today watching this I realised that Gary could be the Lawyering Locksmith! Although I'm not sure how that channel would work lol 🙂
What a ridiculous device. I'm a retired trailer mechanic. All you need is one good padlock to keep people out, trailer doors have built in lock loops. The absolute simplest is a cargo cable seal. Is a stainless braided cable that passes through the body and once sealed and can not be separated unless you cut it. It's not super hard to just remove a trailer door (Even with security bolts), cut a hole in the trailer, or the most common theft is to just take the entire trailer. That said, I've never seen one of these devices, of any type (I've been in transpo for 2 decades) to lock trailer doors.
lol and it still takes longer then picking that stupid thing. Locks are useless, like I said. They can cut through a wall or just pull the whole door off, but they want your load, they usually just take the trailer.
Were that true, they wouldn’t have put a shielded lock and all the other designs in it. Clearly this was intended to keep people out. If it had a decent lock on it, then it would do that job. But like so many locks, people look at it and assume it is secure. A little investigation goes a long way for security.
The soothing baritone voice probably helps. This guy could read the dictionary (or more probably dry legal documentation) and make it pleasant to listen to.
I find room for optimism in that a scathing, but truthful criticism hit home with the manufacturer, leaving ample opportunity for improvement. It may have been a rough day at the manufacturer's, but there's an open dialog for better days to come, and improvements in the product.
@@thorlancaster5641 So far we haven't seen anything on the mechanical construction, only that the weakest link is the lock that is used inside. So I reserve the 'really good lock' label until that is clarified.
@@mrtnsnp We've seen pretty much the whole mechanical thing from the outside of the lock. Two sliding bars, two steel "L" pieces, the rest is just the lock that puts a pin in a hole. Only big question is the hardness of the steel.
Ummm, I saw notch decoder... and thought to myself "will this take longer than 5 seconds? "welp, you have once again proven me wrong. A whole whopping 2 seconds.. well done sir and than you for the review!
I've been watching you for awhile now and Recently purchased the Covert Companion I like it and I'm satisfied but I'm having a problem learning all the picks I keep going through your videos just can't find them all it would be nice if you made a video on it Explaining all the pics Thanks again keep up the good work
What I learned from all the videos is that the more scary looking the shackles, the easier the actual lock mechanism. And you know what? Actual thieves ALWAYS cut through stuff rather than pick locks. So it really does not matter how secure the actual lock is. I have one memory from a factory I worked in. So, one of the big machines of the factory broke down and the materail needed was locked behind 2 doors, one was the control panel, the other was the maintenance room. It was night and keys were on day personel and they were only coming in morning. So I picked both locks, fixed the machine as the shift engineer and the production resumed. In the morning everything was fine and only the head chief engineers knew this. From that day on, I became the lockpicking engineer of the factory and had many many thanks and respect in that workplace.
If I were asked to “fix” this design, I would m: - Replace the lock with an open housing, such as seen on job site lock boxes, that would accept the customer’s padlock, and, - Provide a chain for hanging the body from the container when open.
Knew where this was going with the very first glimpse of those wheels. "Oh, wow, the tolerances on that are terrible; those are huge gaps between wheel and lock body. He's going to reach in and pull the locking lug." And so it was.
The particularly fascinating thing about this is that every swing-door cargo trailer I've ever seen has a padlock hasp built right into the levers this thing locks.
This video and these responses have made it a rough day at Equipment Lock.
We’re not some cold and uncaring multinational company. All our products are designed, engineered, and manufactured right here in Bedford, a small town in central Pennsylvania, by a team of people that are passionate about protecting our customer’s equipment.
You could say we are taking this video personally.
To be completely clear:
We care deeply about our customers.
We want to help stop theft.
We are always looking for ways to improve our products.
We are striving to be the best company in the world at what we do.
While keyed locks are considered more secure than combination locks and cost less to manufacture, we listen to our customers and there was a very strong demand for us to create a product that featured the convenience of a changeable combo lock mechanism.
We have a team working to find a way to make this combo lock mechanism more secure. Rest assured, we will be replacing this mechanism with a better assembly as soon as possible.
While these videos can be helpful for companies like ours that are on a mission to help customers protect their equipment, providing how-to videos and selling tools to some that might have ill intent makes us a little wary.
Thank you for your understanding as our team works to resolve the issue with our Model CDL-C cargo lock.
Thank you,
The Equipment Lock Company
I would be blunt and say did not you not test this lock before you sold it at the higher end price when the people on this channel spotted the obvious security flaws in it even before it was opened using a notch decoder?
An A+ for trying to come over as humble, an F for the fact that you sold a high value product as a security device when someone with a sliver of tin could open it and quicker than using the combination code.
@@darreng745 Well said.
Well throwing shade at the LPL for selling tools is not making you look any better. Fact is one could use any thin piece of metal to reach inside and displace the locking bar. This is not an unknown attack vector for combination locks of this type. Your feigned surprise at this is really disingenuous. Decoding of wheeled combination locks has been around since wheeled combination locks were invented. There are many wheeled combination locks where decoding would work but this attack would not work as they protected the locking bar. You should stop selling this lock immediately and deploy a new core, something your letter leaves out. Applaud a response, but the tone of it undercuts your intention.
@@darreng745 We understand where you’re coming from. Rest assured that we’re working hard to replace this mechanism with a more secure assembly and will bring our grade way up.
@@AMD7027 We hear you. And we were shocked. We heard our customers when their demand for the convenience of combination locks was high and now we hear the LPL and all of you. Loud and clear. Know that we are working hard to replace this lock with a better assembly as soon as possible.
LPL: * escapes from prison *
LPL: * is recaptured *
LPL: “Let me do that one more time to show it was not a fluke”
Hahahahha
I actually want him to try a jail lock, not a recent one since that could lead to problems but maybe one that isn't used anymore.
Check out Yoshie Shiratori
Police: "I give up."
LPL: "But I need to show it wasn't a fluke."
*police then asking him to join and working together, but he choose to be a youtuber
>sees a combination lock
"He's going to notch decode it isn't he?"
>takes out the notch decoder
"Yup, it's all over."
>just pulls on the lock to unlock it
"...what."
I knew it was gonna be bad, but not THAT bad 😂
As soon as he said "Faster without the combination" I knew what was coming.
I know he wasn't decoding it because he didn't set a random code
*pushes
He just *PUSHED* on the lock and it unlocked.
"I'll open it again to prove it wasn't a fluke."
It's never a fluke. He's good and the locks are bad.
How sad is it that the lockpicker has an easier time opening the lock then the person with the code?
Reminds me of DRM on Movies, Books, Games, you name it...
"Picker", you dont even need to pick it is just awful and considering the price it is just awful
To be fair the end user could just buy a notched decoder to save time. 😂
To be fair, you also have to find out which bit is the notch decoder. Have you *seen* the covert companion?
Last time I tried I got two wave rakes and a thing for digging stones out of a hoof, which I swear wasn't there originally.
I actually use my covert companion more than I do most of my building keys nowadays...
I love how LPL can have a title like "The WORST lock ever" and it's NEVER a clickbait.
Wrong, it would be Why? Because it's only ever the worst lock SO FAR...
@@Kr0noZ Masterlock are always up for the challenge.
Sure, but later, he is going to need to invent words like "WORSTER" and "WORSTIEST" when someone creates even worst locks. 🤣
Facts. He never tricks you into watching his videos.
Homer, kneeling down: This is your worst lock SO FAR.
The worst part about this is that, if someone didn't know you weren't authorized to access that container, and didn't know that it was a combination lock, this just looks like you're opening it with a key.
Agreed. While a 4 digit combination lock isn't that secure, spend too much time at the lock and you'll raise suspicions. Although, there's still the issue of what you do after you open it...
@@russellhltn1396 Those who open containers that do not belong to them most likely have no issue about what to do after opening it.
I think they are gonna empty it.
@@bertjesklotepino I think they mean in the sense of emptying out a trailer in a truck-lot is gonna make security pretty suspicious of you. Typically you don't unload in a storage lot, and if it's out in the wild? Even a good lock isn't worth much without someone watching. Locks are only a delay to help security or the cops catch a thief, determined thieves will cut a hole in the container/trailer if they want the contents and the door is too hard to open.
@@kauske You don't unload, but you can be reasonably expected to want to take something from your trailer. Wear HiVis vest, open door, grab something not excessively big, but expensive, close and lock door, walk away. Nobody will bat an eye.
@@MiiNiPaa If it was small enough to talk off with, but valuable enough to be a problem if stolen? It would have a guard that would care. Shit that's left in those lockups are usually not super valuable. Even an iphone is of negligible value, despite the MSRP of over 1000 dollars.
also, if you think that lot security wont question you rifling through shipping boxes to steal phones, you're pretty dumb. Trucks are unloaded at docks, not in the middle of a storage yard. If someone pinches a bunch of phones, security is gonna get shitcanned, and they know it.
They will definitely bat an eye at some rando rummaging on a trailer lot.
Master Lock: "Interesting, perfectly matches our product line up. Can we license this product to sell it under our name?"
:D :D
I think the lock mechanism is a master lock. One that you can change the combo. I used to have one on my shed for over a decade. Then I found out about the problem. So I upgraded it to a key master lock. Nobody will get by that. (that's a joke, it will keep the local kids out)
Much like how white label goods are in stores, I wouldn't be surprised if the locks were a job lot from Masterlock for pennies on the dollar.
:D
"Wow, this is more secure than any lock we've sold in the last 20 years, how do you do it?"
Imagine breaking into a trailer and finding it’s carrying a load of those cargo door locks
Helps that there's no padding.
This is a Twilight Zone twist for the ages
Thats a LOL right there...
Reminds me of a video on Viva La Dirt League where an NPC was offering all the contents of a chest to the player that could unlock it. There were about 50 different LPL comments (including me saying the player needed a Covert Companion) and a bunch saying that after the player breaks 100 picks getting in the chest will contain 2 lockpicks.
the most dense load ive ever had was 9k lbs of tungsten carbide. thats $90k in 3 55 gallon drums. i have a stake body si im not worried about people steeling things, but the point is that s $200 device should protect 100k in cargo in a van.
There is bad. And then there is awful. This was shockingly awful.
Dear LPL seen many of your videos. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into making them. Best wishes from the UK.
then theres masterlock
@@johnnypay I think this is based on a Masterlock mech.
You’re thanking LPL for his effort but these lock companies are so bad he doesn’t have to use any 😂
The beer snorted out of my nose when I saw the four-wheel locking mechanism. I've been watching this channel for too long.
The ridiculous thing is that purchasers of this overpriced $150 "lock" have to pay an extra $20 (on top of the $150) for this combination lock option (instead of the default keyed version).
I was sure this time the LPL had opened this lock that it was a fluke. But thankfully I was wrong and the LPL did prove it was not a fluke once again. I am so relieved and now can enjoy the rest of my day..stress and anxiety free.
And once again LPLs reputation is intact..
We don't want any rumours about LPLs videos being... flukes...
The flukes are on key locks like the one sent from I think Germany with the unfortunate pin combination. Pretty sure he only had to set one pin. Add when he completely bypasses the lock mechanism it's just bad design or construction.
We all know very well, it is never a fluke.
It's possible to fluke things twice... which would be a fluke.
I did not think about a double fluke. Quantum Fluke Mechanics is very strange indeed.
Suggestion: a video series where LPL showcases the best of every lock type, so we can actually know what good value locks there are out there. Call it "Bizarro Master Lock Series" or something like that.
Yeah, it would be nice to have some website that lists the "hall of fame" top picks (har har) for each type
Problem with that is he tries to stay away from simply recommending a lock. We know he’s not shy about recommending against some locks, but never will say “you should buy this one”.
Most he’s said is things along he line of “I would be comfortable using this” or “this gave me a bit of difficulty”, which is the closest you get to a LPL recommend.
But yes, I would be super interested in a series like this. I’d like to see a range from the best of the budget to midline and then the best if money was no object.
He has stated that he doesn't do recommendations. Reading between the lines (he IS a lawyer, after all), a recommendation does carry some potential for liability. If he recommends a lock, and someone has a loss when using that lock, it could come back on him. Not that it's likely, but you never know.
I wonder if he isn't building his reputation here on CZcams, to later reveal that he has developed his own superior LPL lock branded products...
In which, I am totally in support of.
@@locke3141 Difficulty with suggestions like that would be: He looks at the locks mostly from the point of lockpicking, but there are other factors which makes a lock better or worse. There are mechanical attacks especially in times of battery powered grinders there are very few locks that can't be opened within seconds. And depending on what is protected with the lock, if it can be taken with the lock pic resistance is surely not the thing that will make the product safe/unsafe to use.
Then there is also usability. If using the lock makes using the product more of a hassle, people will sometimes not use the lock, because of it. Let's take e.g. bike locks. If you have a 40kg lock you have to take with you in a backpack, chances are you will leave the lock at home. If it takes you 10 minutes tto attach all the locks you secure your bike with, chances are, you will not use all of the locks, if you just going inside of a store for half a minute.
You also have to take in the risk factors, let us stay with the bikes. Your risk factor would be much higher if it is a 7000$ bike in a metropole than if you want to secure a 100$ bike in a rural area with low crime rates. And what kind of a lock makes sense in one scenario might be bad in the other one.
Just from that I guess it is very difficult to recommend specific locks, without looking into the use case, especially if you are seen as the expert and people may trust you blindly and just buy the recommended product without looking if it is a good solution regarding all of the factors.
I think this would protect your stuff better if you just wielded it as a club
That's what they say about the Car Club devices. The pro car thieves know how to bypass the Club so you are better off using it to hit the car thief over the head with it, if you can.
Or two. Once opened (in less than one second even without the code) , voila' you wield the two halves and you have now two clubs, so this thing is a much better deterrent if left unlocked. 😁
@@sandrodunatov485 nah gotta have the range, people fear big things.
That's obvious, anything would protect your stuff better than this
A man runs into the Equipment Lock CEO's office: "Boss, a massive CZcamsr with millions of followers has done a video on our product!"
The CEO: "That's incredible news!!"
The now nervous sweating man: "It was the LockPickingLawyer."
The CEO: "Oh..."
Sweating man: "The video was less than 2 minutes long."
The CEO: "Cancel the rest of my appointments. I'll be at the bar."
They actually responded 😂
This comment may be more accurate than we expected.
When I saw the bottom of the lock, I immediately thought “that’s just a Master Lock, isn’t it?”
I thought the same thing and was thinking "He's going to bypass the mechanism, isn't he?"
At this rate, you're just buying metal.
😂
It seems to be well painted metal.
@@JayJoeJCJesh Respectfully, I disagree.
Looks like typical Chinese powder-coat straight over the mill-scale formed when rolling the piece parts, it'll be mostly off in 12 months or less.
When I saw that lock, I shook my head and waited for the decoder. Imagine my shock when you didn't even have to turn the wheels!
This guy invented "shorts" before there was such a thing with his insanely quick lock picking. LOL.
"Sir, so the villain's going to lock the hero's girlfriend in a cargo container suspended from a crane, and use this really prominent and complicated looking lock, and the hero's going to bust her out in seconds."
"Wow, that sounds improbable. Aren't those container locks supposed to take expensive tools to break?"
"Actually, sir, it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience...."
Certainly beats using a hidden laser in a Rolex.
Or a "talking car".. to "radio jam" the lock (with microwaves ) to open the lock....
Pitchmeetingfan!
Wow wow wow wow wow… wow.
Cheap container locks are tight!
The only point there is any danger is because the hero demonstrated a second time to prove it wasn't a fluke.
"Huh. Usually he shows himself setting a new code so he's not just decoding a known combination."
"Oh."
If it takes longer to watch an ad than it does to pick a lock, its a bad lock.
When he said "decoder", I thought he was going to learn the code. He didn't even need the code!
I went and looked at the seller's site and they actually charge $20US *more* to have the easily bypassed combination lock instead of the keyed lock!
I'd bet the key lock is almost as bad.
SOoooo....a sucker & their money are soon parted??
/Yeah, companies prey on people who just don't have the facts about .... *ANYTHING!* 🤷
@@elvewizzy Read what Dan wrote again, carefully.
@Dan Turner, you're assuming the keyed lock is better. But maybe, the combination lock *really is* a security upgrade... 😉
@@elvewizzy I see what you meant now.
I love how LPL always "shows that it's not a fluke" even though we absolutely know that it's never a fluke! A man with serious skills and always happy to share the knowledge 👍
I think he does that to stop the trolls claiming that it's not a universal problem.
Likewise, with his videos, where he buys multiple locks and picks them all.
And, given how short his videos are becoming, it's probably a significant amount of his CZcams income! 🤣
As soon as I saw this kind of combo lock, I knew exactly what tool he was going to use.
Sadly it looks like any scrap of metal would work…
I knew he was going to bring out the notch decoder too, but I at least thought he was *going* to have to decode it.
@@AMD7027 He's used a notched strip of metal cut out of a Red Bull can before, to the same effect.
Yep, we all knew what was coming... except the manufacturer, who apparently are so passionate about locks they don't have anyone there who watches lock channels on CZcams.
For when you're transporting your daughter's horse, but you are really sick of it.
This needs one extra Lockpicking skill to open in an inconspicious manner:
Taking longer than you'd actually need just so it looks like you're opening it legitimately.
Small addition, "timing" is in the general obfuscation skill tree. Simple bots are by their nature way faster then real attempts. In many cases that's even an economical decision to just be able to try more targets.
The worst cargo door lock ever was the one on the McDonnell Douglas DC10 which failed in-flight causing the cargo door to open during several flights causing catastrophe.
Ahhhh, someone is watching mentour pilot
you seem to be a bit shaky on the difference between a latch and a lock.
@@kenbrown2808 To be fair, the door had a lock indicator, indicating the door was locked when it wasn't.
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 yeah but most lock indicators operate under the assumption that the door bas been properly latched before the lock is engaged. Like if you close you car door but it isn't latched you can still lock it and the indicator will still show that it is locked. Just user error, bit people expect inanimate objects to think for them.
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 again, latch vs lock. if the lock fails, an unauthorized person can unlatch the door. if the latch fails the door can open without anybody unlatching it.
Aside from the deficiencies of the actual lock, the product is prone to freeze solid if it is even damp when it drops below freezing and needs a propane torch to thaw it enough to open. They also rust internally. It needs to be screwed or tack welded to the container door if it will be used often as it jams on the locking bars once locked.
Ok, so other than all those problems, and a useless lock, how is the unit?
@@colinpovey2904 It has some nice heft. You could throw it at someone in self defense, or use it to prop the door open while you unload the trailer.
This is the first time I've seen LPL have more trouble re-locking something than opening it. Normally it's about equal
I wonder how often a company has just been flooded with complaint emails with a link to the video a day after it goes live. Must be a fun day at the service desk
As a trucker, I see these all the time. I was considering getting one. After seeing this video, I'm glad I didn't. Is there any chance of further disassembly so we can see if there is any way to replace that POS lock with something better (say, maybe an Abloy)? Thanks.
You could try to replace the lock of that thing with an abloy lock, or you could just buy another container lock, that already comes with an abloy. If they put such a crappy lock inside, chances are they did also cut some corners in the rest of the lock. I wouldn't trust that to withstand more physical attacks.
End of the day yes it's not going to resist a prolonged attack.
However it is a "visual deterrent"
This may prevent an opportunistic thief from having a go if other containers don't or are not secured in a similar fashion...
LPL & Bosnian Bill did a collab with PacLock some time ago, showing PacLock's new cargo locks. Maybe you should take a look at these.
A length of heavy chain and a good padlock would probably work better and be a lot cheaper.
The lock mech appears to be a master lock changeable combo. Probably a model 175.
It's like most locks. Someone going through a truck stop lot of trucks, they'd probably bypass that truck and go to an easier one unless they knew what was in it. If someone wants to get in you're not going to stop them. From acetylene torch to plasma torch.
"I didn't think this was a keyed lock..."
"It is now."
"I can literally open this faster without the combination than with it"
Me: He's just gonna reach up and pull the locking bar right? Yep...
That's exactly what I thought as well.
As a truck driver, I don't bother locking loads. I back up close to something so the doors can't be opened
I'm in the UK. Alot of European drivers park with one door open..
Apparently it's cheaper to let a Thief look inside rather than try to break in and do more damage
Heh, both comments are really telling.
Reminds me of a friends neighbourhood where he left the car door unlocked with a note it was unlocked and empty. He got tired of paying for broken windows...
The moment LPL said what kind of lock it was I knew it would be only a second to open.
4.5 star rating on Amazon, with 171 reviews. Surprisingly not an “Amazon Choice”
"Warning. This device is known to the State of California to contain high elements of suck"
Ha. My Walmart has a ton of containers sitting out back with these locks. The containers also say “disable alarm before entering”. Security is an illusion and only to keep the honest man out. That was definitely laughable how insecure that expensive device was.
I bet that sign is just to make people think it's alarmed. I mean those trailers don't even have power running to them! Lol the same trailers at my Walmart too, but I'm not going to be the one to test my theory!
@@jkitch419 haha exactly!
You know the lock is bad when it takes him longer to actually LOCK it again, than it does to bypass the lock to open it.
What I LOVE about this lock is the Fire Engine red color that signals every criminal "Hey, the stuff in this truck is expensive!" Saves the criminals time deciding which trailer to break into.
LPL is one of the few channels where you know that the shorter the video is, the better it's going to be.
I was almost sure that he would use that silver screw on the front to just disassemble the lock in few seconds.
My god, it turned out that this lock is even worse, kek.
$170 for some square tubing welded together? I think I’ll make the same thing with a decent lock and charge half the price. I’ll make millions!
Use the Moomin lock for the extra humiliation factor.
It took me about 10 seconds to think up how to modify this design to use a good puck lock that would give actual security.
@@AdministrativeReload You'd probably want to put a warning or the user will just use a Master or American one that can be opened even easier than the one in the video.
@@thorlancaster5641 I think you are conflating the two brands. American locks are much better than Master locks.
Our top priority is helping our customers prevent theft and we won’t stop until our products are airtight. While our combo locks are more expensive to reflect the higher demand we experienced, we’ll be replacing this mechanism with a more secure assembly.
Where I work, we just use zip ties with numbers on them and if the number on the zip tie doesn't match what's on the paperwork, that's when we know the load's been tampered with. We also have numbered zip ties at our location for when we send stuff back to them for the same security level.
More secure than masterlock anyway 👍👍👍
I love watching your videos, and I have actually learned more than I realized. Me and my brother recently had to move 5 vehicles that were parked with no keys, and I was able to not only pick the door locks on 2 vehicles that were locked, but picked the ignition switches in 3 of the vehicles only using a makeshift turning tool and pick 👍🏻
One of the great things that I experienced while attending knob, Creek machine gun, shoot, was a lock picking vendor, showed me how to pick common residential door locks. But he also showed me this trick with the type of combination padlock that I use on my mini barn. I was blown away by the less than two second method that can be used to defeat these.
I read your first sentence over and over..help me out here, I don't understand....lol
@@papadelta316 WAG, they’re talking about an event hosted at knob creek gun range. They used to have a machine gun shoot event. RIP.
@@papadelta316 take the commas out and you'd be ok 🤣
@@papadelta316 same here hahahh
@@andyruse4670 Thx!!! I was truly trying to understand.
What may take longer than using the code, however, is flipping through the LPL's catalogue of hilariously bad lock exploits to select the best method of defeat.
Sir we need more people like you in the world to expose company's that just don't care about their product and consumers $170 bags of garbage
We hear you. We do offer a keyed version which is less expensive, however, with such a high demand for the convenience of a combination lock, we felt we needed to address our customers' needs. We care deeply about our customers and the quality of our products, so our team is working hard to replace this mechanism and make it more secure.
@@theequipmentlockco Your just making it worse by sounding like a scam artist that got caught and saying their not a scam artist, better off just improving the product shipping it to people who brought the bad one. Case closed.
My friend Gary has just started university to study law in the UK, he is 32 and has been a locksmith for the past 12 years since he finished his apprenticeship. Today watching this I realised that Gary could be the Lawyering Locksmith!
Although I'm not sure how that channel would work lol 🙂
What a ridiculous device. I'm a retired trailer mechanic. All you need is one good padlock to keep people out, trailer doors have built in lock loops. The absolute simplest is a cargo cable seal. Is a stainless braided cable that passes through the body and once sealed and can not be separated unless you cut it. It's not super hard to just remove a trailer door (Even with security bolts), cut a hole in the trailer, or the most common theft is to just take the entire trailer. That said, I've never seen one of these devices, of any type (I've been in transpo for 2 decades) to lock trailer doors.
1 Battery angle grinder and 10 seconds later and the loops are removed allowing full access to the handle. Had it happen to an employer
lol and it still takes longer then picking that stupid thing. Locks are useless, like I said. They can cut through a wall or just pull the whole door off, but they want your load, they usually just take the trailer.
That lock looks like it could be opened from the inside of the shipping container. Great for people smugglers, but no one else.
"This is the LockPickingLawyer and what i have for you today is a murder"
Love this channel, listened to your conference speech recently, very funny 😁 thanks.
What an expensive door stop!
It's more to prevent the weather from opening the door than preventing theives from opening it.
Were that true, they wouldn’t have put a shielded lock and all the other designs in it. Clearly this was intended to keep people out. If it had a decent lock on it, then it would do that job. But like so many locks, people look at it and assume it is secure. A little investigation goes a long way for security.
I don’t know why these videos are always so satisfying
The soothing baritone voice probably helps. This guy could read the dictionary (or more probably dry legal documentation) and make it pleasant to listen to.
His insults are so nicely delivered. Classy fella
Thank you for posting 👍
When the video is under two minutes, you know the lock is going to be the worst
Hey. As a lawyer, do you have a preference on receptacle for legal documents, or do you carry them In Any Case? Thanks!
Outstanding comment
Use carrier/plastic grocery bag..
Won't draw attention to oneself...
Thanks mate now I can break in these trucks again!
I find room for optimism in that a scathing, but truthful criticism hit home with the manufacturer, leaving ample opportunity for improvement.
It may have been a rough day at the manufacturer's, but there's an open dialog for better days to come, and improvements in the product.
Is it possible to replace that mechanism with a functional lock? After all it appears that it is just a padlock that is put into a separate housing.
I was thinking the same thing. With an Abloy this would be a really good lock.
@@thorlancaster5641 So far we haven't seen anything on the mechanical construction, only that the weakest link is the lock that is used inside. So I reserve the 'really good lock' label until that is clarified.
@@mrtnsnp We've seen pretty much the whole mechanical thing from the outside of the lock. Two sliding bars, two steel "L" pieces, the rest is just the lock that puts a pin in a hole.
Only big question is the hardness of the steel.
I am always amazed at how quickly you open locks LOL
Masterlock must be in awe of this locking mechanism
I have never seen one of those before. Does it come with the Master 175 or can that lock be changed out?
I would like to see a recommendation for a lock that the lock picking lawyer suggests the end of each video to use in place of the lock tested.
If a movie hero opened a lock this quickly, we'd call it an unrealistic plot contrivance.
I also like the fact that it's BRIGHT RED... so it advertises itself... there's no hiding that design.
And just like that, Master Lock is knocked out of the top spot for worst lock maker...
Plot twist: he just scrambled the numbers in correct position. Twice.
As soon as you showed the combination lock, I knew what was coming... :-)
Break through the cargo door lock, to reveal . . . . a shipment of 40,000 Master Locks.
The circle is complete.
Sub-2 minute LPL videos are always a treat!
All i can ever think when I watch your video's is the adage "Locks are only there to keep an honest man honest".
Ummm, I saw notch decoder... and thought to myself "will this take longer than 5 seconds? "welp, you have once again proven me wrong. A whole whopping 2 seconds.. well done sir and than you for the review!
I've been watching you for awhile now and Recently purchased the Covert Companion I like it and I'm satisfied but I'm having a problem learning all the picks I keep going through your videos just can't find them all it would be nice if you made a video on it Explaining all the pics Thanks again keep up the good work
What I learned from all the videos is that the more scary looking the shackles, the easier the actual lock mechanism. And you know what? Actual thieves ALWAYS cut through stuff rather than pick locks. So it really does not matter how secure the actual lock is.
I have one memory from a factory I worked in. So, one of the big machines of the factory broke down and the materail needed was locked behind 2 doors, one was the control panel, the other was the maintenance room. It was night and keys were on day personel and they were only coming in morning. So I picked both locks, fixed the machine as the shift engineer and the production resumed. In the morning everything was fine and only the head chief engineers knew this. From that day on, I became the lockpicking engineer of the factory and had many many thanks and respect in that workplace.
LPL's biggest flex: shortest video length with complete description, picking and verification
champagne is flowing in the masterlock HQ, today.
I have watched so many of your great videos, so I am surprised that I am still surprised. Wow, that was fast!
I don't use a lot of locks, but when I do, I come here to figure out which locks to buy and which to avoid.
As soon as I seen the combination wheel, I audible said 'Oh'.
If I were asked to “fix” this design, I would m:
- Replace the lock with an open housing, such as seen on job site lock boxes, that would accept the customer’s padlock, and,
- Provide a chain for hanging the body from the container when open.
Knew where this was going with the very first glimpse of those wheels. "Oh, wow, the tolerances on that are terrible; those are huge gaps between wheel and lock body. He's going to reach in and pull the locking lug." And so it was.
Thanks LPL
As soon as i saw that combination lock design.. i knew what it was, and i knew what was coming! 😂
There's so much space around the codewheels, I bet it's possible to see the grooves!
But it's so much faster with the Covert Instrument!
"This can be opened with the product I sell, look. Have a good day" 😂
Love when he scrambles and its not a fluke
170 dollars? I truly have no words for this.
It should be a crime to sell these - and so many other "security" products that were featured by the LPL.
Master lock screaming at his monitor:"SEEEEEEE WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES SELLING SHITTY LOCK"
It was really cool to see your hands at Hacker Jeopardy at Defcon this year
Same as a Master 175. They also put it in key lock boxes, like those at properties for sale or Airbnbs.
I knew it was going to be short and sweet with a video under 2 minutes.
The particularly fascinating thing about this is that every swing-door cargo trailer I've ever seen has a padlock hasp built right into the levers this thing locks.
This is so it takes a criminal 7 seconds instead of 3.5 seconds to get into your trailer.
My man has no chill.
Still more chill than that lock has security.
Who needs to remember a code when you just need to remember your covert instrument 👍
WOW that was fast! I looked away to reply to an email and the entire video was over.
Since it's the same lock as the key box at an AirBNB, the manufacturer wanted to make it as easy to get into as an AirBNB
As a former FedEx contractor, they always pushed silly locks as a requirement. Never did they want to put up the money for something that worked.