Two Pot Retirement System - What should you do come 1 September 2024 with Jimmy Moyaha

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
  • In the following video i sit down with Jimmy to talk about the Two point retirement system and what you should be doing

Komentáře • 149

  • @WallaceM.Hilliard
    @WallaceM.Hilliard Před 4 měsíci +176

    Certainly. Exchange-Traded Funds (ETFs) are popular for long-term investments due to their diversified nature. ETFs offer exposure to a wide range of assets, such as stocks, bonds, or commodities, which can help reduce risk. Some top choices for long-term investing include broad market index ETFs, sector-specific ETFs, and bond ETFs, as they provide potential for growth and income over an extended period while minimizing the risk associated with individual stocks.

    • @Glen.Murphy8
      @Glen.Murphy8 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I agree, that's the more reason I prefer my day to day investment decisions being guided by an advisor seeing that their entire skillset is built around going long and short at the same time both employing risk for its asymmetrical upside and laying off risk as a hedge against the inevitable downward turns, coupled with the exclusive information/analysis they have, it's near impossible to not out-perform, been using my advisor for over 4years+ and I've netted over 2.8million.

    • @JanMuench467
      @JanMuench467 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Kindly share the details for reaching your advisor. With inflation negatively affecting my funds, I'm in search of a more lucrative investment strategy to optimize their performance.

    • @Glen.Murphy8
      @Glen.Murphy8 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Leicia Zavala Perkins is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment

    • @KianShah146
      @KianShah146 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I greatly appreciate it. I'm fortunate to have come upon your message because investing greatly fascinates me. I'll look Leticia up and send her a message. You've truly motivated me. God's blessings on you.

  • @edwardbhengu7864
    @edwardbhengu7864 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Since this is affecting workers I believe that we should have a referendum to accommodate the worker's view.

  • @damonblake0
    @damonblake0 Před 4 měsíci +12

    This was an amazing show, I would wish for the next show to talk more about marriage, finances, and debts.

  • @nomfundokamtungwa7193
    @nomfundokamtungwa7193 Před 4 měsíci +18

    I heard nothing 😭😭I need this explained to me like I'm 5 years old..

  • @Njabulo_Mthethwa
    @Njabulo_Mthethwa Před 4 měsíci +13

    Kushawa edonsayo, this is very informative. SARS is going to make a lot of money

  • @michaelhlongwane697
    @michaelhlongwane697 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Great show Nicolette, I am learning a lot from you. Your knowledge is out of this world. You blow fish out of water. Keep it up lady.

  • @lethu6413
    @lethu6413 Před 4 měsíci +4

    A guest I'm actually familiar with thanks to SAFM 🎉
    Jimmy is a gem 💎

  • @malebtop9720
    @malebtop9720 Před 4 měsíci +15

    Why are we being controlled over our monies that we worked hard for
    I want to withdraw r100k mos we are in so much debts😢😢😢😢

    • @mohalephanuel5800
      @mohalephanuel5800 Před 21 dnem

      Good information, morwa wa Moyaha...re botje ka setlokwa

  • @edwardbhengu7864
    @edwardbhengu7864 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Even if the system is good in general, but stakeholders that will benefit in this set up is business financial institutions and government and keep on suppressing the workers.

  • @penuellmatlala321
    @penuellmatlala321 Před 4 měsíci +8

    The curveball is in losing a job before 55, struggle to find another one & can't get all your money

  • @veehleehmogaleeh5808
    @veehleehmogaleeh5808 Před 10 dny

    Thank you for financial education. Very informal.

  • @LindaPillay-se1rq
    @LindaPillay-se1rq Před 4 měsíci +10

    Im goin be 55 in oct im taking all my money out. I dont want no pot. God will provide.😊

    • @SiyaJola
      @SiyaJola Před 3 měsíci

      😂😂 lucky you.

    • @matriciamoses
      @matriciamoses Před měsícem

      Remember it's only 5 years money 🤔 i think the catch is after the 5 years you eating the Government 🤝🤞

    • @bonisilemaphumulo8553
      @bonisilemaphumulo8553 Před dnem

      😂 you just made my day

  • @kimkaans1072
    @kimkaans1072 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Most will be looking to find new jobs before September. satafrika can't be trusted with our monies😂. This government is making us suffer. 😅...we are suffering today, not at 55 Suka😅😂😂😂. Most won't see 55 with all the stress of loadshedding, unemployment, black tax, inflation, corruption and crime.

  • @LumkaJwara
    @LumkaJwara Před 4 měsíci +20

    Lol im going to pretend that money doesnt exist 😂😂 . I pray I never have a need for it. Because no way SARs is chowing that money so early

  • @ladyr8744
    @ladyr8744 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great video. So informative. Thanks Financial Bunny and Jimmy.

  • @buhlesihlali
    @buhlesihlali Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks Nicolette for yet another educational segment❤

  • @chubsmash7602
    @chubsmash7602 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Amazing video, dankie kakhulu, very informative. I think we need to start thinking about the next steps now.

  • @ayandal4744
    @ayandal4744 Před 4 měsíci +2

    You're appreciated Nicolette.

  • @tlp3482
    @tlp3482 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Imagine being retrenched and having people tell you, you cannot access your pension

    • @Falcon2024-u2i
      @Falcon2024-u2i Před 3 měsíci +6

      This is absurd, how can one survive while waiting to get another job if you are still within the employable age. Will UIF sustain me until I'm 55😢

    • @siyandankundla-mgudlwa1888
      @siyandankundla-mgudlwa1888 Před 9 dny

      I know

  • @masabathatsenase4444
    @masabathatsenase4444 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Day light robarry, this money was taxed now. I want it. They taxed it again, xaaa sokaman😢😢I can't wait to withdraw muulaaa

    • @kgaugelomakgatho5688
      @kgaugelomakgatho5688 Před 4 měsíci

      It wasn't taxed, it's only taxed when you withdraw and when you receive the annuity payments

  • @levit8jackpotslots
    @levit8jackpotslots Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for clarifying so many questions out there. 😊

  • @v12productions_
    @v12productions_ Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for clarity on this 2pot system.. rsa is risking with people's cash 😢

  • @davidmotlaloe5628
    @davidmotlaloe5628 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I should resign before vbs ports beginn.

  • @Mketsi2708
    @Mketsi2708 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank you for this c'thandwa sam ❤

  • @ntombiyesiziba1926
    @ntombiyesiziba1926 Před 9 dny

    people with 1o years service are better off than those who just started working before the system comes to effect, because each withdrawal from the savings pot reduces 4 months of your service, which will prolong you getting to 10 years and also restricting your pension's growth.

  • @keolebogilesolomons9330
    @keolebogilesolomons9330 Před 2 měsíci

    Tnx Nicolette for the important advice/information.

  • @MrVinnyVp
    @MrVinnyVp Před 4 měsíci +4

    The comment she made at 16:46 was felt by every working class citizen! 😩

  • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
    @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Im 44 years old with 19 years of service,but hey I'm not tempted at all,I feel like this could be just a way out government wants to chow our money,should you take that 30 K,taxed and you take home 22Ks,then come retirement time,and you look at that pocket it will look like you took 300ks.this will benefit amaqabane ka Thambo.

    • @TheycallmeBanie
      @TheycallmeBanie Před 4 měsíci +8

      Nna I'm going to withdraw cause I'm not sho if I'll be alive at the age of 60. Just look at how beneficiaries chow our money when we are dead they even call it their money n Wena ur dead

  • @nthabisengletsoalo4194
    @nthabisengletsoalo4194 Před 2 měsíci +3

    So the vested and retirement pots cant b touched...till 55+yrs.only savings can be accessed per year with tax

  • @anatiicabashe
    @anatiicabashe Před 4 měsíci

    That was insightful. Thank you Jimmy! 🫡

  • @user-cv2yr1hu9r
    @user-cv2yr1hu9r Před 2 měsíci

    This was very helpful. Thank you

  • @thilonaicker6464
    @thilonaicker6464 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Excellent , thank you

  • @AlinaMoney
    @AlinaMoney Před 4 měsíci +1

    My understanding of the vested pot is that one can withdraw from it when they change jobs. What cannot be withdrawn is the 66%.

    • @nkulihadebe_wieners
      @nkulihadebe_wieners Před 4 měsíci +1

      I’m of the same view about the vested pot, that’s it will not be affected by the new system.

    • @dabeezkneez8716
      @dabeezkneez8716 Před 29 dny +1

      I'm also surprised now.😮 My understanding was that the vested pot could be fully withdrawn from (subject to tax and tax free allowance) upon resignation before retirement.

    • @nkulihadebe_wieners
      @nkulihadebe_wieners Před 19 dny

      @@dabeezkneez8716100%

    • @ntombiyesiziba1926
      @ntombiyesiziba1926 Před 9 dny

      @@dabeezkneez8716 THATS TRUE. vested is accessible at resignation/retrenchment. the retirement is only pot locked until 60 years.

  • @knackstogether2713
    @knackstogether2713 Před 21 dnem

    Thank you.

  • @sandilejobesithole5475
    @sandilejobesithole5475 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great show but can you please put time stamps next time.

  • @PalieXb
    @PalieXb Před 3 měsíci +1

    Very informative show, but I'm curious. Does this two pots retirement system applies to Retirement Annuities as well?

  • @tshepisomokhema8391
    @tshepisomokhema8391 Před 4 měsíci +10

    What I’m getting from this is that it’s not worth making a withdrawal

  • @ntavhanyenimudau4831
    @ntavhanyenimudau4831 Před měsícem +1

    Is it allowed to just withdraw just once and never again?

  • @johnroman4608
    @johnroman4608 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Nee jiirrrrre we in a quagmire here ! 😮

  • @lionelmabone826
    @lionelmabone826 Před 4 měsíci

    Very Informative

  • @thesobetwafamily1187
    @thesobetwafamily1187 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Many thanks Nicolette ,very informative 👍

  • @malebtop9720
    @malebtop9720 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Wanna know what will happen if I resign

  • @sizwetraveladventures
    @sizwetraveladventures Před 4 měsíci

    Interesting. I would like to hear your views about finance and marriage one day when you guys are both married. Thanks for the discussion

    • @FinancialBunny
      @FinancialBunny  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Thanks for the idea! Let me see if in the meantime i can get someone who can discuss finances and marriage with me

    • @sizwetraveladventures
      @sizwetraveladventures Před 4 měsíci

      @@FinancialBunny Thanks

  • @EmilyKhoabane-kp3je
    @EmilyKhoabane-kp3je Před měsícem +1

    English is not my mother tongue,they need to explain this in our language.

  • @unarineraphulu575
    @unarineraphulu575 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Is this system meant to help us or just another money making skeem sars cooked

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Is not meant to help us,if it was the case,we were supposed to get a certain amount from the money you already accumulated,like if you have 600k,maybe get your 150Ks,not this nonsense of everybody will get 30Ks,it's just ANC shenanigans to eat out money and they tried before to borrow from our GEPF and failed,saying they want to help Eskom

    • @nomalungelongcete5875
      @nomalungelongcete5875 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074not to help at all instead SARS will benefit a lot

  • @donnyscott6227
    @donnyscott6227 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Does this mean I can take my savings pot at 55 and still work in other word taking the 550000 tax free and still continuing with what's left of my pension working up to 60 years

    • @luckyndlovu2926
      @luckyndlovu2926 Před 4 měsíci

      Yes

    • @dabeezkneez8716
      @dabeezkneez8716 Před 29 dny

      No, the savings pot is always subject to tax when withdrawn from. It only falls under the total R550 000 tax exemption amount when it is taken at retirement. (Coupled with the totals of the vested pot). Plus when you take what's in your savings pot ,that amount gets added to your total earnings for that year and pushes up your tax bracket for that year accordingly. If you have as much as R550 000 in your savings pot when you choose to withdraw at 55yrs old, can you imagine how high that amount will take your annual earnings for that year and the astronomical taxes you will pay as a result. Also, what no one talks about is how withdrawing from the savings pot affects one's years of service as calculated in a defined pension fund. In this case , the monthly pension you receive after retirement is also affected (lowered) as the savings pot cash is also translated to service years lost.
      Edit: Also keep in that if you have at any time in the past resigned and taken cash from your pension fund, you have already used up ( either in full or partially) the R550 000 tax free allowance.

  • @loganpadayachee6048
    @loganpadayachee6048 Před měsícem

    Daylight robbery people must decide what fits them best if they choose to withdraw their money not dictatored to by our government

  • @OdwaKoka
    @OdwaKoka Před měsícem

    If you have about R40000 and you get affected by retrenchment, how much will you be able to get from that R40000?

  • @thabs4428
    @thabs4428 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Does this two pot retirement system apply to a pension preservation fund that one is no longer contributing to after resignation?

  • @lisalawrencevuso5672
    @lisalawrencevuso5672 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great show. Are the withdrawals taxed using the SARS tables?

  • @Lungi_Mgwaba
    @Lungi_Mgwaba Před 4 měsíci +2

    Hi Nicollette, can I just leave everything as it is. Just continue to contribute monthly without doing anything to my retirement fund?

  • @EllaLetseng
    @EllaLetseng Před měsícem

    I keep hearing that money will be taxed but no one is saying how much the percentage is....

  • @booysencharndro
    @booysencharndro Před měsícem

    What happens if I'm resign by November 2024. Will government keep n third of my quarter of my pension?

  • @crystalballakistan93
    @crystalballakistan93 Před měsícem

    I will be 60 iin October 2024. I have more than 10 years service. If i retire will i get all my money as a lumpsum?

  • @naailahsearle6169
    @naailahsearle6169 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Does my vested pot keep growing since nothing is going in there anymore?

    • @isaacmorake3602
      @isaacmorake3602 Před měsícem

      SOME LITTLE PERCENTAGE

    • @bonga4929
      @bonga4929 Před měsícem

      It should be growing since its invested somewhere with the required rate of returns

  • @hamiltonmolepo2983
    @hamiltonmolepo2983 Před 4 měsíci

    Very informative sessions, more of this please kgaetsedi

  • @leratolouw9162
    @leratolouw9162 Před 22 dny

    I'm also contributing to my private Retirement anuity.How will it affe ct my finances when I retire after September .I planned to transfer my pension fund into Retirement anuity .My contact is that they pay 1/3 one third the rest monthly pay

    • @evancemashita1257
      @evancemashita1257 Před 14 dny

      I hope you are using bank for retirement anuity cz this other staff like old mutual, sanlam,metropolitan etc ,to get ur money from them its a big problem.

    • @evancemashita1257
      @evancemashita1257 Před 14 dny

      One of my colleague is still waiting for his money from old mutual since 2019 upto date

  • @kelejadvyga2293
    @kelejadvyga2293 Před 29 dny

    What happens when you divorce?

  • @thembabongeziwemahlangu8508

    SARS cant wait for September 1st-

  • @vernonrich7202
    @vernonrich7202 Před 4 měsíci

    If i retired in 2016 do this rules apply to me or can i get all my provident fund as the rules set down by NUMSA and SIEFDS when the provident fund were introduce

  • @jacolinekilelo8167
    @jacolinekilelo8167 Před měsícem

    So when I retire, will I withdraw all my funds

  • @danielmosala3506
    @danielmosala3506 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Accessing of the funds on the saving pot, is it annually? Ones a year every year? If I withdraw R30 000 this year, will I be able to withdraw the same amount on the following year?

  • @phumzilemanyathi9538
    @phumzilemanyathi9538 Před 4 měsíci

    How much will the tax be? Are we taxing according to the individual package? For example 31% on the R30k? Or standard tax amount?

    • @FinancialBunny
      @FinancialBunny  Před 4 měsíci

      If I recall it is according to your tax rate. Yes, you're correct. Under the Two-Pot Retirement system in South Africa, when you choose to withdraw from your retirement savings, it is subject to tax according to your individual tax rate. However, remember that the portion withdrawn before retirement may be counted as part of your taxable income for the year it's withdrawn, which could possibly put you into a higher tax bracket. Retiring should ideally be a time of relaxation and reward for years of hard work. So, planning wisely around tax matters can help ensure you make the most of your retirement funds. 💰👌
      Remember, details regarding taxation can varied and sometimes complex, hence, you may want to consult with a financial advisor or tax specialist for personalized advice. Keep asking great questions!

  • @pearln2308
    @pearln2308 Před 4 měsíci

    What if i retire and want all my money because im relocating to another country?

  • @jacolinekilelo8167
    @jacolinekilelo8167 Před měsícem

    I'm 62. Can I make a withdrawal , I'll be retiring at 65

  • @vernonrich7202
    @vernonrich7202 Před 4 měsíci

    I took R300000 in 2016 when i retired can i still get the other R300000 tax free from my annuity fund know to make it 1/3 of my lump sum

  • @xolanimashaba721
    @xolanimashaba721 Před 4 měsíci

    This two-pot systems meaning that when you reach 60-65 you no longer allowed to get SASSA grant for old age?

    • @luckyndlovu2926
      @luckyndlovu2926 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Even the current one ( one pot system) doesn't allow you to get SASSA when you retire.

  • @MSdigitalincome-zm4kc
    @MSdigitalincome-zm4kc Před 2 měsíci

    if you take 30k by sept you get tax almost 10k thats how they get you so you end up with 20k to pay your debt

  • @lorraineralebona8216
    @lorraineralebona8216 Před 4 měsíci

    22:20- 23:00 does the frozen amount (kept till one is 55) does it accumulate interest? Thank you for such an informative discussion

    • @frederickhefer3442
      @frederickhefer3442 Před 4 měsíci +1

      yes

    • @luckyndlovu2926
      @luckyndlovu2926 Před 4 měsíci +2

      It's frozen in the sense that you're not allowed to touch it unless you want that R550 000 withdrawal which is tax free.

  • @siyamthandapasiya1055
    @siyamthandapasiya1055 Před 4 měsíci +4

    This guy sounds like Trevor Noah..😅

  • @Mtshepana380
    @Mtshepana380 Před 4 měsíci +2

    What happens if i resign before the age 55 and decide that i dont want to work anymore, will i receive all my funds?

    • @frederickhefer3442
      @frederickhefer3442 Před 4 měsíci +1

      No. You will only receive your vested pot after 55 when you buy annuity.

    • @fhatuwanimasindi
      @fhatuwanimasindi Před 4 měsíci +2

      From what I have read on GEPF document vested port will continue to be governed by old rules, meaning when you resign you will get it together with savings port.

    • @malebtop9720
      @malebtop9720 Před 4 měsíci

      I wanna retire this year when I turn 55 will I get all my provident fund at once?

  • @MayaMollz
    @MayaMollz Před 4 měsíci +1

    What does "to purchase an annuity" mean ? 😂

    • @reinethmonareng2981
      @reinethmonareng2981 Před 4 měsíci

      It means purchasing a product that pays you a monthly income

    • @bonga4929
      @bonga4929 Před měsícem

      And every receipt you get is subject to tax at your ruling tax bracket by definition of income i e its revenue in nature ​@@reinethmonareng2981

  • @dineosibanyoni18
    @dineosibanyoni18 Před 4 měsíci

    So Nicollette, its not us withdrawing R30000, the R30000 its just a booster you may only withdraw 10%? Yoh!😮

    • @FinancialBunny
      @FinancialBunny  Před 4 měsíci +2

      The R30K is the limit that will be used to “boost” the savings component. So it’s 10% of your existing fund capped at R30K. You can withdraw the whole R30K but remember you won’t get all of it because of Tax

    • @mrsspringbok
      @mrsspringbok Před 4 měsíci

      @@mbuyixeketwane5481this is just another way of the government to benefit from tax payers. The unfortunate part is many people will be opting for the -R30k which will be taxed because people are highly indebted 😢

  • @Macedonia270
    @Macedonia270 Před 4 měsíci

    This disaster will prove to be the downfall of millions of South Africans.... People are going to withdraw half of their pension savings to buy BMWs, which they won't be able to afford to insure, maintain and service.... They will retire with very little and be dependent on a bankrupt state....

  • @mimimasala
    @mimimasala Před 4 měsíci +1

    How can I contact Jimmy Moyaha? Yes, I tried Linked-in, just a Follow on his profile and no MESSAGE option.

  • @EmmanuelMoela
    @EmmanuelMoela Před 3 měsíci +1

    I stopped listening when they mentioned Millions. 🥲