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The house I grew up in had metal shingles and it was 'bullet proof'. The house was torn down in 2017 and was 100 years old with the original roof. After my grandparents died and my uncles and aunts sold the place the new owners didn't have annual termite control done... All it took was a decade of that and the house was damaged so much it was uneconomical to repair due to the termites being in the entire floor and every wall (East Texas Huntsville area where the termites are Texans too, bigger and bader, haha)
Although Matt would never say it, hats off to him for helping his employee build this house with his resources.
@First Last Matt mentions who it is in other videos.
@First Last This is a home for one of Matt's long time Project Managers. He's thrilled to help Luke build this home for his family.
Looks great! We put a metal
Shingle roof product on our Straw Bale house in Florida 25 years ago. It still looks great. Zero issues despite 5-6 Hurricanes.
thats serious.. im sold
It’s great! My shed has been completed and it turned out nice looking and sturdy and it is way better than the sheds that many of my neighbors had put up. Of course, I'm pleased with the outcome and this Ryan’s czcams.com/users/postUgkxGZedDTcDfgD7fG_uU4esfx_EgxzlY2_1 Plans was extremely useful to me as a guide.
Love the Build Show. As an HVAC contractor/trainer innovative ideas get me excited. It doesn't have to be HVAC, building in general and next level thinking is something that keeps my mind wanting to create a better wheel.
Thank you for informing everyone on your channel of newer easier ways to home build prep
I put these exact same Edco shingles on my house 10 years ago. They look like the day they were installed. Great product. I have no affiliation with the company. Looks like slate from the ground. The only downside is to make sure you put snow stops on as, like many metal roofs, snow will avalanche.
I am a fan of metal roofing. It's easy to install, looks great, and may last the lifetime of the house. The only drawback I have encountered was trying to find matching replacement panels to repair a small section of roofing that suffered damage from a fallen tree. The particular shake pattern was discontinued by the manufacturer a few years after we installed it. I searched all accross the nation to find something compatible without success. I ended up replacing the entire roof with galvalume standing seam as I was assured the profile and color would always be available.
Good point. I guess buying a textured metal roof is like buying that unique Italian ceramic tile for your kitchen or bathroom. Buy extra in case of later damage.
Great product, definitely going this route when I build my house. Thanks Matt.
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I love a good metal roof, I don’t do Mutch roofing anymore, but 25 years ago I used to install Girard, Decra. Granulated steel tile. It was an awesome roof if it was installed right. unfortunately, I have repaired many granulated steel tile roofs. Failure always came in when a installer just don’t care.
I like this style of roof because you lay your 1” x 4” vertically then 2” x 2” horizontally, and then you can insulate in between the bats. Something you should appreciate insulated roof. It really helped break that thermal transfer. When we started, we use smooth shank nails, and we found that they would back out through time. Then we went to ring shank nails. Made it harder to repair them, but really tied everything together. I find myself doing repairs on them occasionally because there isn’t a lot of steel tile installers out there.
I saw these about a year ago on the metal roof channel and I love the style ❤❤❤
Couple weeks late, mother just had her roof redone. Tried to convince her to do metal but she wanted the normal shingle look, but she did suggest to the roofer for the Fortified system you discussed on an earlier post.
thanks Great content and great delivery
Im doing this on my custom build! we wanted metal roof but love this look!
What is the cost compared to a standard metal roof?
Cool to see a new alternative.
Matt you always strive for the best construction outcome.
Well said. Thumbs up. And great backyard storage
I installed a Decra Shake steel roof on my house, in 1995. It's had 100+ mph winds , 100 degree heat, Hail and Snow. No leaks ,or degradation that I can see. Steel is the only way to go.
It was $33,000 in materials to do my house. I paid $4,000 for shingles. I can replace my roof every 15 years for the next 120 years before I hit the metals cost. At 120 years the metal will most likely need replaced. I just couldn’t.
How much was labor to install? That will cut into those replacement roof cost pretty fast.
@@lukemarks9132 sweat equity I believe
You don’t get the resale value tho
@@lukemarks9132 I don’t even want to know!! Another product installed by a local company was $36,000.
@@cybertrk for which? I’m not worried on a house I built and I’ll die in but it can’t change much. All houses are 500% over valued right now so I don’t think it matters for a few grand.
Great roof! That's what I'm going with. Thanks!
Great video. Would have loved to see some flashing detail close up on this product
I put one of these roofs on my house and it's looks great.
We just had this roof installed in the spring, over 2,600 sq ft went up in a day and it's been great. The neighbors are all commenting about how good it looks and we are planning a solar installation hopefully before the end of the year. This is the last roof I will ever put on a house thankfully.
How are you installing solar over this? Matt has recommended standing seam roofs in the past because of the clamp on solar panel standoffs.
I would definitely NOT recommend using this type of metal roofing for solar. Source: I own a solar company that just crested 55,000 installs. I wouldn’t consider anything but a ground mount were I you
@@mattbrew11 What type of roof is best to go with solar? Curious. Is it the standing seam? Seems worth the investment if it is more permanent and less chance of leaks.
What are the approximate costs for 2600sqft of this metal on your house? I know labor prices can vary but I'm trying to get an idea if it's even in the ballpark budget wise. Thanks
@@Darksurfr i built my home with a standing seam Galvalum roof and used a railless S-5 system to mount the panels and route the conduit. In my experience that is the finest roof you can get for solar because it will a) outlast the panels b) requires zero penetrations and c) with proper retainment system can withstand cat 5 wind loads
Hey Matt, take a look at Euroshield rubber roofing. I did it on my roof, and looks amazing.
Really like the look
Very nice roof!
I lived in a house that was built in 1980, it had a metal roof that looked like tiles, but the advantage was the sheets came in 6 metre lengths, the house was rated for 220kph winds, as we lived in a Cyclone Area.
Great Video Can you give more detail on how the roof itself is constructed did you vapor vent it? why is there no rain screen? how is it insulated?
How is repair? Would love for repairs to be discussed during videos so we have the full info, thank you very much for your videos and the work you put in for us mat, amazing work!
Great question but with it you need to answer why it would require repair? Asphalt is more likely to require repair given similar circumstance. But I suspect a repair is going to rely on sealants for this roof, like butyl.
No repairs needed
only in a perfect world are repairs not needed.... i am not saying it wont stand the test of time and nature but in other circumstances like an addition of a plumbing vent in the future?
Love the look my question is how adaptive is this style to solar panel mounting?
Great question, I was going to ask that myself.
It's not, and solar won't be around anyway unless the government ups the subsidies.
I'm going to guess the answer is going to be, "Not very". You couldn't very well anchor mounting rails through the roofing without crushing it, and if you were to cut slots in the shingles so tabs for the rails could poke through you'd lose almost all of your weather protection.
We have metal shingles on our roof and we asked for a quote for solar panels this summer and the installer refused because of this kind of roof. He cannot guarantee the roof won't leak and void the warranty.
@@GervaisRioux that's sad
I love it!
These look great. How do they compare to aluminum shingles?
hope you show how they flash .and the ridge how do they install that so you dont see any fasteners.and do you order the ridge for the pitched roof you have ie;12/12 roof or 4/12 roof??
I am building material supplier, and I have had several customers who have went the metal roof route who complained about their cellular service after the metal roofing was installed. Have you had any experience with cell service issues from metal roofs?
That's interesting since most modern phones will use wifi calling if they're connected to a local Internet connection.
I have a Decra Shake steel roof. Yes, you may see a drop in cell phone signal. But there are cell phone signal repeaters available if needed.
Of course the metal blocks the signal, and that's 4g, 5g is even worse.
It's common that cell signals are reduced so much that a booster has to be installed. A directional antenna outside (looks like a sharks dorsal fin and it is pointed at the closest tower) and a cable that runs down to the base station inside the house that puts out the boosted cell signal.
Note the cheap ones are generally crap, it's worth it to buy the mid to higher priced to get faultless service
Turn on wifi calling for when inside. And also, blocking cell service and other invisible radiation is more a feature than a negative
@@gial8862 do you think a 4g/5g repeater is equally bad?
New subscriber. I love this roof. Hope I can get a discount somehow so I can get one. Asphalt for my house is expensive and I do not like the idea of watching it all fall down my gutter , into the downspout's and then onto the ground, and to mention , watching weeds grow in the gutter's.
Looks great Matt! How does this product compare in price to a Kynar standing seam roof?
Replaced the original roof on a 1915 house because no one would touch the original tin shingles when a valley flash started leaking.
Although my neighborhood does not allow metal roofd, I think that this would pass because of the looks. If I was building again, I would use this!
Most HOAs will make an exception for this type of metal roofing.
EDCO should make the part that looks like the Slate a solar voltaic unit.
I like the fall protection used on the build, simple but safe. I used metal roofing on my house at 140 lbs a square verse 600-900 lbs a square sure for asphalt shingles. You're parking an SUV on top of your house with asphalt shingles.
Most asphalt shingles are 225 to 250 per square. Most metal is 100 pounds per square. High end shingles are maybe 400.
The fall protection is not being used in the right way.
900lbs a square??! I own a massive solar company and while we sub out roofing ive never heard of any roof weighing that much per square outside some tiles
@@mattbrew11 Yeah, asphalt shingle is 200-300 pounds/square. Tile is 800-1200 pounds/square. Metal is 60-100 pounds/square (peel/stick puts it at ~100). Solar is also around 250 pounds/square. It's right on that a typical asphalt roof is equal to an SUV!
Roofs are designed to handle the load
Great content on metal roof subject. I would like to suggest a subject for video. Solar shingle roof options in new construction. Since there is a lot of interest in netzero homes.
There are exactly zero solar shingles on the market that I would have wanted any of our 55,000 solar customers to utilize.
Standing seam coupled with S-5 mounting remains and likely will remain the best possible option to use solar for quite some time. Its what I used on my own home designed from the ground up to be uber durable, ultra high performance and an heirloom to be passed down through my family. Budget was of no concern. I don’t drive nice cars but I live in a Bently, if they made tanks that don’t care if its - 60* or 140* outside.
Reasons: incredibly easy to repair, much better cooling, easily outlives the panels and not an electronics recycling nightmare. Also doesn’t count a particular inverter setup.
Super cool for me here in Boston... Will check that out to replace my 100 yo slate
I hope this works better than the Dekra version we used on our roof, it was a leaky nightmare. The worst part are the vents most are only rated for 10 years. Reason I say was a nightmare first installer didn't do it right so Dekra had another company come out and tear it off within a year, the valleys were leaking. I thought all was well then the vents all started to leak, had I known I was thinking of having vents come through gables maybe so no penetrations? Shortly after we sold the house and on inspection there were two major leaks we had to get fixed and finding a good contractor to fix it wasn't easy. I would not trust just any installer to do it right. Wish there were more contractors around like you who would stand behind their work.
Very nice looking.
How does it compare to a 24 gauge, standing seam meal roof for commercial application in price and longevity for central Florida?
Would there be a concern with galvanic action between the aluminum windows and steel wall siding which can lead to corrosion? If so , is there a way to deal with it?
Nice product, thank you man🖒
Well you've just solved my metal roof conundrum. I love the bullet proofness of a standing seam roof but I'm not enthused with how they look & haven't been blown away by the metal shingles I've seen in the past in our area. This looks like a great substitute.
Look into the US Metal consortium. They have some stone coated steel roofs I bet youd love and they are much more suitable for solar if you ever want it. I say this as the owner of a very large solar company.
@@mattbrew11 I'm interested in adding solar at a future date but Alabama Power has bought the legislature & been able to enact a $5/Kwh installed solar per month on your bill. So solar just doesn't make sense until someone is able to sue & get it overturned.
@@bamascubamanthat's outrageous...
@@vapeurdepisse that it is but corruption is how you spell politics in the South. Fortunately I've moved to an area not served by Alabama Power, so no solar power tax. Hopefully looking for a lot to build on next year.
@@mattbrew11 any chance you can give me some ball park planning numbers for tracking mounts? Wasn't originally thinking about going that route, but if they make sense cost/benefit, I'm interested. The thing that would factor into my hesitance would be I live on the Gulf Coast, so it's a good bet I'll have one hit within the next 15-25 years.
It looks very nice. How does the total installation cost compare to traditional metal roofing?
I wonder what the minimum pitch of the roof can be with this product as duriod shingles has its limits in that regard and metal is much better for low pitched roofs. I replaced our torch on roof with metal and its been great, no problems in 10 years and looks good, lifetime transferable warranty too!
Got my father interested for the 1910 Winnituxit property
Hey Matt great Edco video, I have a question about venting the roof ,how was that done .thanks in advance
You don't--maybe. The attic spaces that Matt does are part of the conditioned/controlled air space.
If you do need to vent Edco roofing it can be done - they offer an under-the-ridge vent option that looks great and allows for good airflow.
Hey Matt, what about under heavy rain or ice pellets would it be noisy on the inside of the house?
Thanks for another great product review Matt. 2 things …
1. Anyone know if you can install solar over a metal roof like this? Solar sales guy seemed to think not.
2. Has anyone heard of Davinci Slate Composite roofing? It’s another slate look-alike, I thought it was made of rubber but I’m unsure?
I've never seen solar mounting options for metal shingles like this. Better bet would be standing seam (or corrugated). Mounting on asphalt shingles is simple along with most concrete tile. I've been in solar design for 3 years.
I love those metal shingles. Put them on my brothers house. The only downfall is that there is no way to install solar panel on them. There are a myriad of mounts for traditional metal roofs, but no approved mounts for textured shingles.
@Matt Risinger, can you do a video on F-Wave shingles?
Hey Matt - This is a really interesting product. We're coming due for a roof replacement and while I've wanted to do a standing seam roof, my wife isn't crazy about the look. This could be a great compromise.
I've watched some of your other steel roof videos and if I recall correctly, you usually like to put an air gap between the decking and the roofing material, but I don't see that here. Presumably because of how these panels are attached to the deck? Do you think the lack of an air gap would cause any issues in the Chicago area with a conditioned attic? Closed cell -> ZIP R -> (additional rigid foam?) -> Peel & Stick -> Steel
You’ll have to pay Matt to get an official response.
@@damianokon6209good grief
The problem with metal roofs as a replacement product is the cost.
You can put on 3-4 asphalt shingle roofs for the cost of one of these.
If it’s a new build, sure it can make sense if this is your forever home.
If not, I don’t think you’ll recapture that higher cost in the sales price.
I do like this product’s look vs standing seam because standing seem can show defects and high and low spots on the roof deck.
I was quoted nearly twice the cost of a high quality asphalt shingle roof for 26g metal.
I just didn’t see the value in a metal roof so thin.
Love the look. I was quoted at $540 per square for material only. Standing seam metal with labor included was significantly less.
That’s $5.40 per square foot?
@@robertatkins272 Correct. A square is 100 square feet.
I've heard code won't allow standing seam in my area on residential. My builder Uncle claimed one reason was because when the wind gets underneath it the whole thing goes.
@@KLondike5 I own a solar business that among many other states, we service FL and we had multiple standing seam roof with proper retainer systems and solar survive hurricane Ian just fine.
@@KLondike5 Standing seam that is installed on a good substrate holds up much better to wind than other common roofing. Maybe this guy just didnt have the resources to do it.
I’ve got a question with regard to tankless water heaters that you have made videos about prior. My house in Gulfport Mississippi is 1000 SF with a very old standard tank-type water heater. It would free up some space if I could replace with an outside tankless. I watched one video that stated that one can’t be installed under a roof. Well, I have 2’ eves on the side where I would want to install. Is there such a restriction in Texas where you are?
We used plastic slate and it came out great and our cell phones work!
Try walking on that plastic roof in about 10-15 years. I feel the UV exposure would make it brittle and breakable with the slightest pressure.
Would have been nice to see the flashing detail, plus how do you replace a damaged shingle if it's in the middle of the roof? What's it painted with, and what are the specs of the warranty? I've put on many standing seam roofs and these are things to consider.
Go to the website
It's not asphalt so no repairs needed
What is the system for valleys? Looks like a nice product.
Matt, if I'm definitely replacing my roof (in the northeast), but intend to install solar panels thereafter, what roofing product would you use?
Thanks!
Got a quote for this product for my 1500 sf new construction. $14K for materials and then about $40K installation costs. No thanks. I'm willing to pay more for a quality product but that's at least 3-4 times what a traditional roof is going to cost.
Would like to see how you flash the walls with this product
I like it. Every time I watch a video and my wife hears the music she’s really another video lol?
Any sound proofing materials required? Loud in rainy climates?
I saw so many Build Show videos that my daughter just told me that on my death bed she will say: 'See you next time ON THE BUILD SHOW.' 😬
Can you put this on as siding as well?
Quick question weigh difference percentage of this product verses asphalt shingles.
Curious how to handle roof penetrations with this?
If an existing house has 1/2" wafer board decking, will this metal roof nail to it sufficiently to keep the metal roofing from coming off in sever wind storms?
Does anyone make plastic shingles using material like Aztec? Would seem to be another great durable option to asphalt
Will this work in the northeast with our weather and snow??
like every performance aspect of this product, warranty huge plus, i have been in a house with similar metal roof heavy rain sounded like one was inside a snare drum, lots of interior noise, is there a sound deadening backer?
I prefer zero (0) lumber home. Concrete top down poured not blocks. Yep that includes roof.
Would you use 1x4's to create a ventilation area under the shingles, just like on standing seam?
Do they have Canadian distributors? How well are they for snowfall and super cold temps. I really like this idea, so every hail storm we get can give a big FU to it. Love that insurance companies are giving breaks when you install this. Asphalt shingles are just waiting to be replaced
Check out Diamond Roof just west of Toronto. They have a similar product with years of experience in cold climate. Tell them the r&d lab sent you.
How well do they work on a shallow pitch roof?
Would this would for shingle siding?
Hey Matt, how do you flash around around a chimeny?
Where should I get the supplies? I can't find metal roofing that is being sold directly.
Matt, do you have folks that work for you that do this kind of install in Harlingen, Texas?
That roof looks amazing, but how would you put solar panels on it and not void the warranty?
With the right house design that slate look shingle with concrete log siding from Everlog would be a perfect combination. Especially if the exterior walls were ICF. The only way they could REALLY be better is if they were also solar collectors LOL.
Do you engineer ICF houses?
@@shannabolser9428 No, I was an electronics engineer. I've been doing a lot of research into them though and working on a design for our next home. Most of the online home designs would be perfect with relatively minor tweaks. Adding an elevator, expanding the pantry/kitchen counter area things like that. Of course I'd have an architect familiar with ICF construction go over what we finally come up with.
@@shannabolser9428 I built my home out of ICF (and own a large solar company). What state are you in I can see if my engineering firm is licensed there
@@mattbrew11 Indiana
Those would good for Florida and the mid West
Can you show how it will look if you staggered the metal roofing?
It would be nice to know the price you would be looking at for this SQ footage.
It's an easy install when you compared to standard shingles but it's exponentially harder than just doing a standard metal roof
By "standard metal" do you mean corrugated?
Matt states that this roof will have a Class A fire rating. As I understand this system, it will only have that rating if you use a 1 hour rated underlayment. I am trying to figure out that underlayment that gives the A rating and does not "break the Bank".
Matt, What is the process if one of these (or several) shingles is damage, say three or four rows from the bottom? It looks like it would be hard to repair without removing much of the roof.
Probably similar to vinyl siding. You insert tool to pop the shingle out of the clipins and after popping loose a sufficiency you start removing and replacing the shingles as needed and restore the clipin.
I reached out to edco in 2018 after I saw them featured on your video and they had no dealers or installers in my state (Maryland). I reached out again in 2020 and they had a Mid-Atlantic business development manager but I still couldn't find any dealers or installers in Maryland. Sounds like a great product but it's not helpful if I can't get a quote to compare to other products and installers in my area.
I’d suggest asking a local roofer to source and install. It’s pretty straightforward to train a shingle crew to do this install. It’s easy to source too. Hope this helps. Best, Matt
I can just imagine a metal roof after a hail storm..
Nice looking roof! Can solar PV panels be added to this type of roof? How much does it add to the PV Installation on this type of metal roof as opposed to other roofs?
As a large solar business owner I absolutely would avoid this system completely if you want panels on top. If you want metal (and I built my own home with it if that tells you anything) do a standing seam roof with S-5 rail less mounting. Zero penetrations, excellent airflow to cool the panels. I also think it looks badass but that part is obviously up to you. My roof is mega insulated so I can’t hear precipitation but i would suggest adding more insulation at the same time if you do.
@@mattbrew11 Thanks! Will keep this in mind for the future;-)
love the build and roof sealing. I want to like the product.
The fire resistance is a big deal. I am glad that was mentioned, but was it the same as any metal roof, or was the comparison to asphalt shingles?
Can you add solar mounts? leaks, special tools or tiles, etc.?
How do you handle penetrations? Clearly they do, but it wasn't shown. If they do leak, where do you get the indicators so you can fix it?
What is the sound profile like during rain/wind? (I have always wondered if certain metal patterns might have resonance issues).
Too many questions? Sorry. Not being a downer. The devils in the details and I REALLY like the look, but have to be comfortable with function versus form.
This product is designed and warranted to work with solar mounts: www.starlingrfs.com/. I suspect you can find details for how to handle penetrations on the product website where they have install manuals.
Blast from the past 🙂 You made a video about this product about 4 years ago called "Metal Roof Shingle Review"
That was totally different!... They weren't paying him that time. 😅
@@jt5747 😆
I'm actually thinking of using that product vs. the metal sheets he used on his home build
What happened to you have them run 1xs on a 45° angle for ventilation?
We did a more typical deck mounting with no additional ventilation on this home. Stay tuned for a future video showing ventilation option for shingles. I do like a vented install.
Curious what they do to sound deaden the roof, for when there is Hail or Heavy Rain. I could hear the tin sound as Matt was sliding them together.
Probably extra insulation or sound proof dry wall options.
You will hear nothing in the house
How do these steel shingles compare in price to traditional steel sheet roofing & are they solar panel compatible?
I own a very large solar company. Do not choose the system if you want panels on top. There’s not a good way to mount without causing a lot of issues. When you say steel sheeting do you mean a ribbed roof with exposed fasteners or what?
@@mattbrew11 - Yes, I guess another way to say it, would be corrugated sheets.
@@cmdrdarwin3682 corrugated much lower cost to install but the exposed fasters need maintenance periodically. I chose a standing seam roof for my own home