"One really disturbed person has him as a commander in EDH" LMAO
Uvarigh Alvarado I run daochan. What does that make me?
@@RobleViejo I don't know what you mean by your second sentence. What mess? She kills a creature, and then one of your opponents of your choice kills a creature. Pick the right person and not only does she live, you've killed two threats a turn. Give her shroud and it escalates. Solid commander that scales up with multiplayer.
Embarrassing Story: I once traded my Hypnotic Spectre and two Serra Angels to my friend for the mighty, mighty AXELROD GUNNARSON, possibly one of the most mana-ineffcient cards ever printed. It was the 5th grade and I assumed that more mana=more power :(
Man, when I was in the 5th grade I conned one my friends out of a protean hulk by trading him a loam dragger giant for it.
Well if it was the Legends version, it was probably a good trade. However, I suspect Chronicles here. My condolences...
If that's a Legends copy of Axelrod, you're laughing at your friend, because that card is now worth money. I sold my Legends Dakkon after it went from 15 to 60 bucks, and I should've kept it, because due to being over 25 years old now, it's vintage and will continue to gain value, just like that Axelrod.
@@nickhughes8179 yeah like who wants oldschool specters or Serra angels anyway?
Trivia: Morinfen was later plagarized slightly in design and name by the Yugioh card Morinphen, which later ended up being such an everlasting meme in Japan that he got sleeves of his own. I think that's pretty legendary.
I'd believe that if other things had Morinfen in them. It just feels too specific of such a forgettable card for it to be anything other than an intentional plagarism haha
I just looked it up and it's a vanilla monster, unless there's some other version floating around (something Yugioh isn't a stranger to). Plagiarism is a bit of an overkill for something that's only borrowing a changed spelling of the name, homage is much more appropriate.
I always thought Morinphen was a cool Yugioh card growing up because it was so funky and terrible. Didn't know it was a meme in Japan. It's apparently a running joke to this day because even the mobile game Yugioh Duel Links actually added cosmetic Sleeves and a Game Mat with Morinphen on them for real money lmao
I actually have a deck with Huang Zhong in it. It's a Shu deck with Liu Bei as its commander.
It's bad.
Everything I just read made me unbelievably happy. Thank you stranger!!!
Veldrane of Sengir has legendary artwork.
I remember 11 year old me pulling this out of a homelands pack and thinking he was such a pos
I have a legend from legends that is a 7 mana 6/4 with no abilities... im building vanilla edh around it
Sivitri Scarzam......awesome artwork but horrible costing card with no abilities.
Ian Sheridan I like Tobias. I would l8ke to see a new version of him that actually does something.
No one remembers Kasimir, the Lone Wolf (UW4, 5/3 vanilla) or Torsten von Ursus (GGW3 5/5 vanilla)? :(
2:38 this creature is called a Taniwha (tun-e-fa) it is taken straight from Māori mythology
My impressions
Number 10: Well it's not that bad I could see some uses in some specific decks.
Number 1: WHO IN THERE RIGHT MIND LOOKED AT THAT CARD AND SAID YUP THAT SEEMS GOOD LETS PRINT IT.
The Boss same, like from 10 till about 6 I could actually see some use for these cards. 5-1 tho... WHY
i actually run 10 as one of my commanders its very good. it just costs a ton as you need alot of expensive old blue cards like invoke prejudice
10 is very good with an eldrazi card that destroys all colored permanents. Make the lands colored and you have one hell of a boardwipe
I love the fact that if Gosta Dirk was changed from costing 3WWUU to just WWUU, he still wouldn't see any real play...
A 4/4 First Strike for 4 that has a narrow upside might actually see some play in EDH, and would be a solid rare in Limited (I’d say “great”, but the casting cost being so specific hurts somewhat.)
Gisela Broken Blade who doesn't die to a lightning strike might be worth jumping through a few hoops for.
American Fury a 2 mana 4/4 with first strike would definitely see play
Did you have fun looking at 50+ legends from legends to find the worst one?
It is definitely a wonky set for sure. Tobias versus Lady Orca... such a hard choice...
+Game Hero Nah man, you remember command beacon? Tutor that to hand, put phage in hand from command zone with command beacon, play endless whispers and a sac engine. Next turn, play phage, sac phage, and you win.
Ryan Gainey No, next turn you kill one opponent. I think they’d die before being able to redirect Phage back to you, but Endless Whispers only takes out one opponent at a time. You’d then have to get it back onto the field. The key to playing Phage is to have cards that kill ETB effects.
*Shots fired.
Back in the mid-90's before everybody made internet decks I had a pretty good suicide black deck loaded with Gallowbraids and Morinfens and Dark Rituals and Mana Vaults. It won a couple of Type 2 (old Standard) tournaments. I still have love in my heart for the brothers...but I know they are awful.
I remember pulling Shimatsu as a kid and trying to just figure out why
Also I built monoblack with Greven as my commander. It had tons of sac related effects, and if you ended up with an empty board you could always sac him to himself for triggers!
Not good, but eyyy.
Handy way to chuck a bunch of spirits with goes-to-graveyard effects, like the zubera. Also, he could provide a workaround vs. Ghostly prison; trade your weenies for a fat beater thart you can afford to attack with.
I'm not gonna say he's a great (or even good) card, but just htat within hte context of the time, he had some upsides. Kamigawa was -really- self contained, and sandwiched between two rahter OP blocks, so it gets a lot of bad press.
I actually use him in a semi-pivital role in one of my most successful decks. Great for stacking graveyard abilities
Very big noob here, but Shimatsu seem playable if you have lots of creature tokens, and the opponents can take care of tokens easily.
... Yeah, not really anything that applicable, i guess.
I know you put a lot of time into these top 10 videos. This one was funny, and quite entertaining.
Just want to mention that: Your fav Bird in your intro fits that music so darn well!
Gallowbraid and his buddy are the two phyrexians that killed Crovax's family. That's why they are important to the story, and therefore legends.
I have a card from legends (a legendary card) that's a 3/3 for 5 mana that literally does nothing
Back in the day, I played phasing decks with Taniwha, Wrath of God, Armageddon, and mana ramping artifacts/creatures. Never consistent enough to be effective, but it was always fun. Teferi's Veul was a fun addition as well since it allowed you to get phasing creatures back on turns after they attack.
Shimatsu would have been ok if the sacrifice was whenever, not ETB. It be Threaten tribal
Danimal4900 I had a Modern deck that used Iname, Death Aspect and Goryo's vengance to dump all the Zuberas and Shimatsu into my yard then reanimated them with Return to the Ranks. Shimatsu was supposed to be my sac outlet but it doesn't work because they all enter play at the same time and the ETB uses last known information. It was a fun brew besides that.
Vstull The only good thong about Shimatsu is you can trigger morbid at will with it. Just play don't sac anything and let it go to the graveyard.... of course that is still really terrible esp. In red but could come up... I guess... sometime... no, no it's just bad.
shimatsu could pair well in association with Tamiya the moon sage. makes both cards a little less worthless.
Oh yeah. Great video, series,and channel sir. Maybe a video on any upgrades you made to edh karn deck?
I’m one of the few people that have a taniwha edh deck, and there are really cool ways to play him. I made the deck essentially based around teferi stax with land destruction and bounce effects. You can lock the game with land equilibrium and sunder for example. A lot of my mana is in artifacts so i dont need lands to win
Also if you float mana on your upkeep in response to the phasing trigger and then play sunder afterwards, your opponents wont have lands while you still keep yours.
...I liked kamigawa...
Me too! But that doesn't change the fact that it had some crappy legends.
I have seen a kind of powerful Maraxus deck where they just put a bunch of equipment on him and made him huge. It's cool because he is extremely powerful in combat, and then you do everything in your second main phase. He is pretty hard to get to use, but if you can do it, it is very cool to see.
Listening to this with the new urza announcement from modern horizons
Oh hindsight
PROF: Keep yo mana open my friends. Me: I'm doing it because the Keldon.
I agree with most of it, except something you said about shimatzu. You said red doesnt have many sacrifice synergies, but it has goblins and devour, the sacrifice mechanics.
Shimatsu can work well with nesting dragon since you can make a bunch of eggs with it's landfall ability then sacifice them to him making him big while also getting dragons in return since once the eggs die they turn into dragons
"My commander is Urza. There's not really another card that lets you say that"
Except now in Modern Horizons there is!
I just found you, and I subbed, thanks for the good video
His legend was so lengendary...
That his legend was legendary
Like the new intro.
Fits the feel of your vids much better
Number 9 is named after a mythical beast of Maori origin. It's pronounced Tani-Fa. I wish the English alphabet was more well adapted, school would of been easier.
Yeah transliteration to English is odd. If it is pronounced that way, it should be spelled that way. The same thing happens in Hebrew, where there is a letter that makes a "t" sound that is ALWAYS transliterated as "th," leading to incorrect pronunciation of people reading the transliterated word
Read rhymes with lead, but not with lead (pronounced reed rhymes with leed, but not led) I wish English was more optimized in general...
Nizzahon Magic it uses the maori vowel sounds so it can be confusing to others
Nizzahon Magic also there is no "f" in the Maori alphabet instead you use "wh" lol
Not everyone in the world is American, nor do they all speak english (though finding a Maori who doesn't speak english these days would be very difficult) and they have their own languages with their own spellings and pronunciations. Maybe instead of telling other cultures how to spell their words you should learn how to properly pronounce them first.
I have a Blind Seer deck, and I have a lot of fun with it. I use a few of the Swords of X and Y, and other cards like Wash Out and Dismiss Into Dream.
He's definitely not the best mono-blue commander, but he's certainly unique. Only commander that's at all similar is Eight-and-a-Half-Tails.
soldierswitheggs I have played with blind Seer as well and I'm not sure that it should be on this list. It seems weak but it can do some broken things and I've won many games with it because opponents underestimated it.
soldierswitheggs you want another fun off colour effect, try daochan. play a bunch of artifact to creature effects and go to town.
blind seer was part of a combo deck I did very well with back in old extended called "Color Manipulation" involving Blind Seer and Southern Paladin/Northern Paladin. It was effectively a control deck that ran 4 copies of blind seer, 3 copies of southern paladin, and 3 copies of northern paladin. The deck worked by turning perminates red or black then destroying them, often lands once no good creatures or other perminants were left on the board. The rest of the deck was counters and spot removal as well as bounce spell and the like. The deck did quite well in it's hey day, I kinda wish they would bring back Northern and Southern Paladin.
You have another meme to add to this list on the last set. Talking about Yargle, ofc.
Greven il-Vec is actually good in tempest and tempest remastered draft.
Can you make a video on best 1 cost spells? Jus a thought...
Contract from below is probably the best one, it's so good that its even banned
Taniwha is the commander in my Summon Bigger Fish deck (Leviathan & co. 'tribal', and summon is summon, no mana cheating ). The combo with Sunder is pretty cheesy so I might swap it for Slinn Voda.
Use keld in an exalted deck?
Oh c'mon Maraxus is amazing! Mono red equipment deck he gets +1/+1 for all equipments .Also you don't even need to tap your stuff until after you attack.
I was born in 91 I’m 26 I have always been very intrigued by MTG and thanks for the Insight on this card game I have been missing out on I think it’s time to go pick up a deck better late then never great video
I came here to find ideas for my next Commander brew. Not disappointed.
Shimatsu the Blookcloaked; an upgraded Wood Elemental. XD
That one person running my boi Me Gusta Dirk Diggler *IS* the legend.
The thing that really makes my eyes pop about Veldrane of Sengir is that the same goddamn set had Ishan’s Shade, which is also a costly Black 5/5... with Pro White at all times, making him actually pretty good against basically all removal at the time, meaning he wasn’t that bad at all.
i love the top 10 worst videos so much... that i want to buy all does cards and build a deck!
Can you named another 10 worst ones?
that jokes ahah
As someone from New Zealand, it was painful for me every time you said Taniwha. It should be said Ta-ni-fa. I hope this helps someone.
Shimatsu can be paired with creatures like Goblin Arsonist, Pitchburn Devils and Gang of Devils which all look to die and deal damage when they detonate, so filling a deck with guys like that, and having others who bring them back would really benefit especially since when the dust clears for every creature you blow up you've just added to an absolute monster and thats if your opponent is still standing
Minor error at 3:15 There is no "phasing/phased out zone", there was, but they changed it. Now "being phased in/out" is just a status just like "being un/tapped" or "face down/up".
Power Conduit and Chisei Heart of Oceans can remove age counters from cards with cumulative upkeep, which will mitigate it a lot.
Gallowbraid and Morinfen were the two gargoyle demons that attacked Urborg (Crovax's estate) in the early Weatherlight Saga. It is a really obscure event, referenced by a single sentence in one of the more obscure books.
Blind Seer was good around that time, when color manipulation was a powerful mechanic. One of my favorite combos from around that time was Shifting Sky and Llawan, Cephalid Empress.
Could you use taniwha to phase your lands out then cast a destroy all lands spell?
Would mana maze also be an option for the seer? ... if yes it could be very hard
taniwha isnt bad. its fucking awesome in any zedru deck. i love and it will have a place in my heart until the end of time. i really didnt expect to see it on this list
I actually use Shimatsu in my Mono R artifacts deck in Modern. Ichor and Mycosynth Wellsprings, Terrarion, Chromatic Star, and Pia's Revolution. The deck also carries Trash for Treasure and Greater Gargadon. He's only a one-of, but he can really blindside an opponent, because he's a surprise sacrifice engine for the deck, whereas Greater Gargadon is pretty well telegraphed.
blind seer is a really nice colour manipulation control deck in edh and its kinda fun
I'm looking at making a Tymaret Seize and Destroy deck, and Shimatsu would actually be fun in that haha
Blind Seer used to be permabanned in the EDH community before Wizards took it over, because there was a rule that you couldn't play spells that didn't share a color identity with your Commander. This rule was changed to the "Mana" rule instead because Blind Seer was an on demand 2 mana Fizzle.
Blind Seer mattered when it was in Standard somewhat. There were plenty of cards that functioned if you had a permanent of X color in the block and if you built a deck around that back then, Blind Seer could fill the gap until you had those cards.
I had a couple of them monsters cards had Gallowbraid an Morinfen in my half black half green deck
I actually used to run maraxus of keld in my warrior tribal deck because part of the combo was to give all of your guys vigilance. But in the end he was a 6 mana like 20/20 that got chumped, so his power and toughness didnt matter
Which card artwork is number 3 taken from?
Wasn't jedit ojanin the cost of gosta Dirk but a vanilla 5/5? I feel like that's worse than gosta but I could be very wrong
Aw, I really like Blind Seer.
I played him in a really funny deck that had color hosers like Douse, Rule of Law, Light of Day, etc. along with other color changers.
Yeah, he's probably not great in commander, but he's still a fun nostalgic card for me.
Love the new intro!
Yeah its great! Mike from Mythic Tales did it, his channel in description. Does amazing animation
You could stock this list almost entirely from the Legends expansion. I have the black/red version of Gosta Dirk in "Ur-Drago"
The way I took this is "10 Challenging Legendary Creatures to Build a Commander Deck Out of."
I gratefully accept this challenge.
So would cumulative upkeep be better if it gave you an upside for paying the cost? Like I wish echo would have effects as they enter and exit the battlefield?
I remember running Shimatsu in my red white Samurai bandit deck... I don’t even know why.. I just thought it was cool that a demon was leading a bunch of bandits.
The Keld dude bypasses his weakness almost entirely with vigilance, and late game you're mana alone would make him a 10/10.
The oni shitlord may actually be the most effective self sacrifice mechanic I've ever seen and makes RIDICULOUS things happen paired with some black creatures.
The blind seer works well in a blue red deck as an easy counter for protection or color targeted spells.
Most of these cards are shit on their own, but can fill a really useful role in a lot of dual colored decks
Top 10 non-werewolf flip cards could be interesting. Elberus the binding blade and westvale abbey come to mind. elberus was actually my first mithic rare. oh the days
Shimatsu actually has a SUPER niche use specifically in a Windgrace deck
What you do is you have titania or omnath (or both) out and cast it. It gives you a SUPER nice way to sac all your lands and starting dealing some serious damage. Or sac all elemental and just win the game
For those who don't know: destroying all of your own lands in Lord Windgrace is a win con. A lot of shit interacts with your land dying.
I don't know why phasing gets shit talked though. Its like having a Sundial of the Infinite attached to your flicker but you trade out having the benefits of ETB and/or LTB effects. Also you don't lose tokens if they are phased out, unlike flicker. Enemy commanders are also unable to return to the command zone if phased out as its not like being exiled, tucked, or being sent to the graveyard.
Example #1: if your opponent uses Wrath of God while you have this massive army of tokens, you can Teferi's Protection to save them and even get them back on your next untap step.
Example #2: Sedris, the Traitor King + Teferi's Veil. Unearthed creatures that get phased out before their trigger are safe from exile. This even applies to cards like Ball Lightning if it survives.
Example #3: If you enchant an enemy commander with Vanishing for just {U}, you can, at at any point spend {U}{U} to phase it out. This is a repeatable effect at instant speed.
Example #4: Equipoise + Sands of Time. its a really obnoxious stax combo that came out in the same.
I just wanna say that no cards aren't really bad because of all the different possible combos in the game, any card can be good given a good combo
That's sort of true, but a bad card is one that is only effective in very narrow situations. Sure, most cards can find an ideal way to shine - but if it requires massive set up or a combo, it is a worse card than a card that is always good. Hate to break it to you!
One of my friends has a blind seer edh deck and it's shockingly oppressive. Plus I'm pretty sure this video inspired him to make it
Seems that with the recent trend of Rakdos Sacrifice being a thing, Shimatsu is looking pretty good now for just triggering a bunch of Sacrifice and death effects for a big creature
Are you that guy that does the metal album reviews? Voice sounds similar
Honestly how did you put 8 in there??? You can make infanint tokens easily.
Gosta Dirk was actually rather useful in my immediate area. Lots of players i knew liked blue white decks. Naturally lots of people liked island walk and even plains walk cards. Even Plains walk was a trick i used a lot with my Magic Hack deck as there was a lot of people who liked white decks with bodyguards becoming necessary for them to survive because of how often they got plains walked. Merfolk decks and "Slight/hack" decks as we called them. The slight/hack wars were real.
The blocking island walk was especially useful as other decks with magic hack were around to use their land walk from mountain.swamp or forest were used against all decks, back then.
Even though magical hack could change up the island walk that meant an instance of magical hack was used up.
Lots of decks just had island walk cause merfolk decks were popular.
The fact it was classified as a white card made the very popular Crusade card also useful when in play. Most white decks used 4 Crusades in their decks.
In fact land walk of all kinds was just very strong back in the day as there were more decks that had to rely on basic lands.
The land walk meta was much different form today.
I like the rest of your list though.
Shimatsu was a gimmic to be used in a gimmick Black/Red deck and it really wasn't good or bad.
Would you consider Neheb, The Eternal to be a profitable venture in a commander deck?
Gallowbraid is so low impact that I've owned a copy of it since Weatherlight was relevant and I'm just now realizing it's legendary.
Anyoje know of any recent horde of notions edh recent deck techs
I feel like shimatsu would be OK if you used every single steal spell in your deck...... wait... that's still bad....
These Mirage cards make me want to make some Mirage decks. But you're crazy if you think a six-mana 7/5 with Fear that just wants _one_ sacrifice (especially in black) is as bad as everyone's favorite do-nothing multi-color Legendaries.
Wouldn't Shimatsu be good in a token deck, since tokens count as permanents? Maybe not as a commander, but maybe in the 99 of a Krenko deck or other red token generator deck.
Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked could go well in an Alesha deck, I think, particularly given that you can pull him out of your grave for two tapped and attacking and he can be however big you have room for; Alesha's white gives you lots of token gen, too, so you can feed him lots of stuff... Weird how Devour goes best with white, which is a color it's not usually.
i used to play Taniwa with Teferis veil and Jokulhaups lol and Viashino sandstalkers... chees, what weird times..
My friend recently built an edh deck with Jedit Ojanen
7 mana (4UWW)
Legendary cat
Vanilla
5/5
Everyhing else in the deck is just turtle/control, and he actually won a 4-player game by putting Pariah on my Korvold, who also had a gift of doom
I've got a deck with grandpa Urza as the Commander.
And it's degenerate as all hell.
I grabbed all the dudes with protection from green/red and then block my enemy creatures after color hosing them so my dudes stay alive.
And then I also happen to have an Ugin planeswalker. I make lands a color, then set his X ability to 0 and destroy their lands, especially the duals and tech lands.
I've made people VERY pissed at times.
Also, Hakim is really useful now with the new Dominaria set. The new Sagas that are incorporated Hakim can continue to bring back.
I can see Blind Seer working with the circles of protections though. Oh, red 12/12 with trample? I’ll turn it to blue and prevent the damage for a cost of 3
That won't work in EDH, because Blind Seer has a blue identity only. So no circles.
What's your opinion on the legendary Kromat?
I got a good one and this one's old school top 10 ante cards
Idk why wizards bothered to make any after exava. Like how do you top that
2:35 "Yeah, my commander is Urza. There's not really another card that lets you say that"
*Modern Horizons*: I'm about to ruin this man's whole career
Yeah
@@alextrollming6588 How the fuck you get 4 likes for saying one word that means to agree within this context.
You my friend are a *SOCIAL ANOMALY*
@@RonSwanson101 yeah
There was also that one planeswalker from unstable. Yeah he's a planeswalker not a creature, but being if you can convince your play group to let you play an un commander, they probably won't have a problem with a planeswalker.